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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 24 14:00:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hey njohnston | 14:00 |
| njohnston | Happy Friday to you mlavalle! | 14:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | yeah, Happy Friday to you, njohnston and haleyb | 14:01 |
| njohnston | Morning haleyb! | 14:01 |
| * njohnston is feeling chipper | 14:01 | |
| mlavalle | is is indeed happy, becuase I am finally feeling recovered from the jet lag | 14:01 |
| haleyb | morning, it's Friday right? : | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | it has been two weeks of jet lag | 14:01 |
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| mlavalle | first in one direction and then in the other | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | feeling lost in a sea of free time, haleyb? ;-) | 14:03 |
| haleyb | yes, brain still in vacation mode :) | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 14:03 |
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| haleyb | we still waiting for quorum? | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | yes, waiting for quorum | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | we need either amotoki or yamamoto. None of them seem to be on-line | 14:07 |
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| mlavalle | ok, I don't think we are going to have quorum today | 14:21 |
| njohnston | :-( | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | thanks for showing up njohnston, haleyb | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | let's try again next week | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 24 14:21:47 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-08-24-14.00.html | 14:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-08-24-14.00.txt | 14:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-08-24-14.00.log.html | 14:21 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 24 15:00:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| annabelleB | o/ | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Morning annabelleB | 15:00 |
| annabelleB | howdy! | 15:00 |
| fungi | mmm, meetings | 15:00 |
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| smcginnis | Doug is out, but I think I still saw ttx around. | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Line 718 | 15:01 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Rocky Release Status | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky Release Status (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:02 | |
| smcginnis | I didn't check the stale intermediary releases, but as far as unreleased deliverables go I think we mainly have the tempest plugins yet. | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | There's been some activity for some of them, no signs of response on others. | 15:03 |
| ttx | no we got everything that was too old refreshed i think | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | Oh, excellent! | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | annabelleB: Have you taken a look at the highlights so far? How do those look? | 15:03 |
| ttx | depends on your def of too old I guess | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/highlights.html Rocky highlights | 15:03 |
| annabelleB | smcginnis: looking good! I think folks are starting to get the hang of it and remembering to add them | 15:03 |
| ttx | heat-agents got a release 2 days ago, same for swift | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | ttx: OK, good. I think those were the two of concern last week. | 15:04 |
| ttx | yes those were the two with no release in last 2 months | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | annabelleB: Still some lower-level details for some of those highlights, but overall it did seem like most are starting to get the idea. | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | Of course having previous examples to go off of really helps, so hopefully it just keeps getting better. | 15:05 |
| annabelleB | smcginnis: agree, we’ll keep editing and driving home the idea, but improvement! | 15:05 |
| ttx | shall we be concerned with the tempest-plugins ? | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, not sure what to do there. | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | On the one hand, it's not as release critical, so I think it's OK if they are a little late. | 15:06 |
| ttx | they are not really part of the release | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | But we also don't want those coming in too late. Or not at all. | 15:07 |
| ttx | as in no stable/rocky branch | 15:07 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah | 15:07 |
| ttx | I would be tempted to force on Monday if not solved | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | And we can always go back and tag at an earlier commit if we have to. | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | Next week seems reasonable. Things should be quiet(ish) by then. | 15:08 |
| ttx | maybe discuss that on Monday with dhellmann | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | That works for me. | 15:08 |
| ttx | documented on etherpad. | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | Tempted to just go through the list and get the pypi registration and publish-to-pypi steps done since it's just kind of mechanical. | 15:08 |
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| ttx | yes, we probably should asist a bit in that technical step | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | Once that's out of the way, the rest just becomes normal release process. | 15:09 |
| ttx | Looking at the release request pipeline now | 15:10 |
| ttx | nova rc3 should be in as soon as the last commit passes gate | 15:10 |
| ttx | there is a magnum 7.0.1 that should pass the deadline too | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | There are some tempest plugin patches that are waiting on the registration steps to get done. | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | And a few release highlights that need updates. | 15:11 |
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| smcginnis | The only contentious one I see is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590702/ | 15:11 |
| ttx | for monasca-events-api I'm tempted to approve it | 15:11 |
| ttx | speaking of the devil | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | Is it needed? Kind of disappointing there hasn't been a response there. | 15:12 |
| ttx | since we have no idea how necessary it is | 15:12 |
| ttx | better safe than sorry | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | I suppose. | 15:12 |
| ttx | maybe try to chase down witold / moasca people today | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | I've removed my -1. | 15:12 |
| ttx | I prefer to force it today than solve it next week as an exception | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | ttx: OK, I guess I'm fine with just doing that one. Maybe with a comment that it was still an unaddressed concern. | 15:13 |
| ttx | let me ask around in #openstack-monasca | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | OK | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | And other issues or concerns anyone is aware of for the rocky release? | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | #topic PTG | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:15 | |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking Stein etherpad started | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/relmgt-stein-ptg PTG Topic etherpad | 15:15 |
| ttx | ok I did send a ping and ask for answer on #openstack-release or review | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | Not sure if we will have many topics, but we always have things we can work through. | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Thanks! | 15:16 |
| annabelleB | smcginnis: props for being so organized with these etherpads already! | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | I think we can just find a time for us to grab a quiet corner during the week. | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | annabelleB: Hah, thanks. | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | If there is anything you want to make sure we talk about face to face, please add it to the etherpad. | 15:17 |
| fungi | give me a heads up when you do and i'll be happy to join if i don't have pressing conflicts | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Oh, I did sign us up for a team photo. All are welcome and I hope you can make it there. First thing Tuesday morning. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | I can't find the spreadsheet to verify the time, but I'll track that down. Unless anyone else has that handy. | 15:18 |
| elbragstad | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qSiBYGZBdAna00jYAi59MAFiMxVjaGC5l49j4vLdFQQ/edit#gid=0 | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qSiBYGZBdAna00jYAi59MAFiMxVjaGC5l49j4vLdFQQ/edit | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | elbragstad: Thanks! | 15:19 |
| elbragstad | np | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | So 9:30 Tuesday morning. | 15:19 |
| armstrong | Denver will be the official release of Pike right? | 15:19 |
| fungi | 15:30 utc? | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | fungi: I'll trust you on that one. ;) | 15:20 |
| annabelleB | fungi: i believe so! | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | armstrong: Rocky you mean? That's on the 30th. | 15:20 |
| armstrong | Oh yes, sorry about that | 15:20 |
| * fungi is starting to add ptg reminders to his schedule | 15:20 | |
| smcginnis | armstrong: We will cut the final release on the 29th to give a day buffer before the release announcement on the 30th. | 15:21 |
| ttx | .me checks Tuesday morning for conflicts | 15:21 |
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| ttx | smcginnis: hmm, I may have to be somewhere else... could we move to Wednesday ? | 15:22 |
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| smcginnis | Looks like Wednesday morning is also open. Does that work for everyone? | 15:23 |
| * smcginnis was hoping to be back to back with requirements | 15:24 | |
| armstrong | @smcginnis: ok I see | 15:24 |
| ttx | hmm maybe prometheanfire can move along | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I'll check with him. | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | OK, I will move it to Wednesday. | 15:25 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 15:27 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else we should discuss? | 15:27 |
| ttx | release hour maybe | 15:27 |
| ttx | annabelleB: do you know if we are doing the classic 10am CF PR | 15:27 |
| ttx | CT | 15:27 |
| annabelleB | AFAIK yes | 15:27 |
| ttx | I haven't heard otherwise either | 15:28 |
| annabelleB | might drop a few minutes before as we have the community meeting starting at 10am CT | 15:28 |
| ttx | so the PR goes out 10am CT, ideally we have the releases.o.o page all set before then | 15:28 |
| ttx | since it points to it | 15:28 |
| annabelleB | correct | 15:28 |
| ttx | Also we usually time the "it's released" tweet and ML announce post to a few minutes before that | 15:29 |
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| ttx | since "it's released" is a bit of a fuzzy quantity | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | I can get an equivalent of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/548563/ queued up and ready to go. | 15:30 |
| ttx | so let's plan to spend the few hours leading up to that online | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | That's the only thing for releases.o.o, right? | 15:30 |
| ttx | smcginnis: we need it to go through all the RC-> final updates too | 15:31 |
| ttx | (before applying that patch) | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | That will be queued up Monday. You mean the patch we want to get all the PTL +1's right? | 15:31 |
| ttx | yes | 15:32 |
| ttx | as many as we can would be more correct | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | OK, so let's plan to be in the -release room from 1400 to 1500 on the 30th. We can approve the final patch and then get through the releases.o.o update marking it released. | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Yep | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | Or wait, 29th or 30th? | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | Normally we've done the final release the day before the announce I thought. | 15:33 |
| ttx | wedneday, so 29 | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | So 1400-1500 on the 29th? | 15:33 |
| * ttx looks up process | 15:33 | |
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| ttx | I think all the steps in "Final release" are for release day | 15:34 |
| ttx | we can start approving things early in the day though | 15:35 |
| smcginnis | OK, I think I stated the 29th as the release deadline as far as dev goes, but we can process that the morning of the 30th. | 15:35 |
| ttx | I would approve the patch when you get up in the morning | 15:35 |
| fungi | is that 1400-1500 utc or mdt? | 15:35 |
| smcginnis | UTC | 15:36 |
| fungi | thanks | 15:36 |
| smcginnis | Trying to be global-friendly. :) | 15:36 |
| ttx | the 30th is the Thursday, so no | 15:36 |
| smcginnis | OK, I'm just getting confused then. | 15:36 |
| fungi | oh, right, not at the ptg | 15:36 |
| * fungi has wires crossed in head | 15:36 | |
| smcginnis | We do our final release and our announcement to openstack-announce on the 29th, official release announcement for marketing level is on the 30th? | 15:37 |
| ttx | no | 15:37 |
| ttx | everything the 29th | 15:37 |
| annabelleB | marketing is on the 30th? | 15:37 |
| smcginnis | Hmm, we had previously announced the 30th was the official release date. Does that work for you annabelleB if we actually do it all on the 29th? | 15:37 |
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| fungi | that was at the request of distro package maintainers who wanted the extra day before the weekend to do final packaging work, yeah? | 15:37 |
| fungi | (wednesday release instead of thursday) | 15:38 |
| ttx | uh | 15:38 |
| smcginnis | I thought in the past we did the release Wednesday but the announce on Thursday. | 15:38 |
| ttx | that is weird | 15:38 |
| ttx | not sure where that Thursday comes from | 15:38 |
| annabelleB | i _think_ we can make that work—thursday is preferrable—I’d be going off the date on the site for the press team, but if we had to do a Wednesday marketing announcement, I think we could swing it | 15:39 |
| ttx | well if we announced Thursday on the schedule... | 15:39 |
| annabelleB | Did we want the day inbetween releasing and marketing announcing in case of…anything? | 15:39 |
| ttx | we should stick to that if that works for everyone | 15:39 |
| ttx | In my head it was the 29th | 15:39 |
| ttx | but I read it now and it says 30th | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | I just checked openstack-announce for pike and queens, and we did send that out on Wednesday. | 15:40 |
| ttx | smcginnis: sure, but we also announced that it would happen on the Wednesday :_ | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | Maybe I messed up the release date. | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | Queens schedule says the 28th (Wednesday) and we announced on the 28th. | 15:41 |
| ttx | right | 15:41 |
| smcginnis | Any drawback if we do the 29th even though it had said the 30th? | 15:41 |
| ttx | I'm more attached to releasing on the announced day, than to releasing on the Wednesday | 15:41 |
| ttx | not a big deal though from our end | 15:41 |
| annabelleB | I’d prefer the extra day for the press release work | 15:41 |
| ttx | we'll be ready on Wednesday, and releasing "early" is not a bad thing. | 15:42 |
| smcginnis | OK, we can see if there is any pushback from distros not having that extra day and we can just apologize this time around and fix it next time. | 15:42 |
| ttx | But if it makes marketing more difficult, I'd keep teh announced date | 15:42 |
| smcginnis | I also put the stein release day as Thursday, so I can put up a patch to fix that. | 15:42 |
| fungi | well, the "extra day" was mostly that they wanted us to start releasing on wednesdays to give them a full 2 days before the weekend to do final packaging (is what i was trying to say earlier) | 15:43 |
| smcginnis | And add a note to the process doc to make sure we don't have confusion next time. | 15:43 |
| fungi | before a few cycles ago we were releasing on thursdays and that left them with fairly tight timing | 15:43 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Yeah, maybe things have slowed down enough now that it woudl be OK? | 15:43 |
| fungi | sure, maybe. i don't maintain (openstack anyway) distro packages so hard for me to gues | 15:44 |
| fungi | s | 15:44 |
| smcginnis | Yeah. Not a lot of direct feedback there, unfortunately. | 15:44 |
| ttx | smcginnis: my suggestion: i would stick to announced dates | 15:44 |
| smcginnis | OK, let's do THURSDAY morning 1400-1500 UTC this time around. I will fix things for stein so we do Wednesday next time. | 15:44 |
| evrardjp | smcginnis: I am asking on side channels | 15:44 |
| ttx | It's the only way to not piss someone -- they had plenty of time to organize/complain | 15:44 |
| smcginnis | Yep, it has been the published date for a long time. | 15:45 |
| fungi | wfm | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | that's fair | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | wfm too | 15:45 |
| annabelleB | thursday it is! | 15:45 |
| smcginnis | My countdown email said the 29th, but I think it's fine giving the community the shorter deadline to make sure things are ready to go on the actual date. | 15:45 |
| ttx | now I still think Wed is better, so we should fix Stein while we can :) | 15:45 |
| smcginnis | Yep, I'll do that today. | 15:45 |
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| evrardjp | smcginnis: that's project management speaking right there | 15:46 |
| ttx | crisis averted! | 15:46 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything else I can confuse today? | 15:46 |
| smcginnis | evrardjp: :) | 15:46 |
| ttx | nothing comes to mind, but that was a good one to catch :) | 15:46 |
| smcginnis | Yes, glad that was brought up! | 15:46 |
| annabelleB | moi aussi! | 15:46 |
| * ttx books the Thursday in his calendar instead of Wednesday | 15:47 | |
| evrardjp | annabelleB: :) | 15:47 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. It's been a pretty good release cycle this time around. I appreciate everyones involvement. | 15:47 |
| annabelleB | smcginnis: thanks for being our fearless leader! | 15:47 |
| evrardjp | thanks smcginnis ! | 15:47 |
| ttx | smcginnis: great work on your side ! | 15:48 |
| fungi | thanks to everyone for doing the thankless things! | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:48 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 24 15:48:23 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Indeed! | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-08-24-15.00.html | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-08-24-15.00.txt | 15:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-08-24-15.00.log.html | 15:48 |
| evrardjp | fungi: like writing openstack code? | 15:48 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 15:48 |
| evrardjp | ;) | 15:48 |
| fungi | evrardjp: especially that | 15:48 |
| evrardjp | hahaha | 15:48 |
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