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lennyb#startmeeting third-party15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr 16 15:00:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lennyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'third_party'15:00
lennybHello everybody15:00
mmedvedeo/15:00
lennybhello mmedeve, how are you? Sorry I missed last week meeting15:00
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mmedvedewas not much discussion15:02
lennybmmedvede, I would like to propose changing this meeting to bi-weekly or even monthly basis. There is no much activity on those meetings and all of us can be reached on #openstack-third-party channel15:03
mmedvede+115:03
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lennybgreat, I will prepare a patch for this15:03
lennybmmedvede, anything to discuss today ?15:04
mmedvedeno :)15:04
lennybwhat version of Jenkins are you using with zuul 2 in your setup?15:04
tusharlennyb : no15:04
mmedvedeJenkins 2.3215:05
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lennybthanks, tushar15:05
tusharlennyb : we are using 1.64215:06
lennybmmedvede, thanks. we are moving our setup to another local network and I though to upgrade Jenkins as well.15:06
lennybmmedeve, and what distro are you using ? Any issues with Jenkins 2.32 ?15:08
tusharlennyb: ok, is there any plan to use zuul v3?15:08
lennybtushar, not at the moment. we have dont have enough resources to rewrite all the jobs.15:09
mmedvedelennyb: we are using Ubuntu 14.04 (not upgrading because may switch to zuul v3 anyway)15:09
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mmedvedelennyb: and it has been awhile since I upgraded Jenkins. I think it mostly worked, may have needed to adjust some parameters15:10
mmedvedesame here, tushar. Switching to zuul v3 is basically starting from scratch15:11
mmedvedeway way too much work15:11
tusharlennyb : ok15:11
tusharmmedvede : yes right. and we need to do that without impacting the daily CI run15:12
mmedvedeyes, there have to be a period of running both v2 and v3 in parallel and gradually migrating the jobs15:13
mmedvede*has to be15:13
lennybI've updated jenkins to 2.10715:13
lennybwe are also using this infrastructure for few internal projects, so we are currently staying with zuul 215:18
tusharlennyb: same here15:19
lennybtushar, mmedvede, anything else on this issue?15:19
tusharlennyb  : nothing from my side15:20
mmedvedesame15:20
lennybtushar, mmedvede, regarding this meeting, should we do it bi-weekly/monthly or cancel it at all with a pointer to #openstack-third-party channel?15:22
tusharlennyb : I guess monthly is fine...instead of cancelling it15:24
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lennybtushar, first Monday of the month can be fine15:25
tushar+115:25
lennybmmedvede, tushar. Thanks. I will close the meeting now.15:26
mmedvedeno objections for monthly and adhoc using #openstack-third-party-ci15:26
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lennyb#endmeeting15:29
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Apr 16 15:29:11 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:29
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2018/third_party.2018-04-16-15.00.html15:29
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2018/third_party.2018-04-16-15.00.txt15:29
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2018/third_party.2018-04-16-15.00.log.html15:29
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mlavalle#startmeeting networking21:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr 16 21:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'21:00
mlavalleHi there!21:00
slaweqhi21:00
haleybhi21:00
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mlavalleAgenda for today is here:21:01
mlavalle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings21:01
mlavalleLet's get rolling21:01
mlavalle#topic Announcements21:02
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mlavalleFirst of all, this week we are going to be cutting Rocky-121:02
mlavalleamotoki has voluntereed to be our release team liaison going forward21:03
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mlavalle#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129358.html21:03
mlavalleWe thank armax for all the help he gave us on this topic over the past few cycles21:04
armaxamotoki+++++++++++21:04
mlavalleI will keep bugging him for guidance on many topics21:05
mlavalleIn updating the the liaisons page I came across some positions that needed to be updated21:05
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mlavalleSpecifically, we are looking for a volunteer to be our liaison with the QA team21:06
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mlavalleI put my name in that slot for the time being, while a we wait for a brave sould to volunteer for the position21:06
mlavalleWe ended up proposing four Neutron related topics for the Vancouver Forum. Links are in the meeting wiki21:07
mlavalleI started an etherpad for people attending the Vancouver Summit to register, so we know the team members that will be there:21:09
mlavalle#link  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-neutron-atendees21:09
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mlavalleThe plan is also to have a social event on Tuesday 22nd21:09
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mlavalleTraditionally we have our social event on Thursday, but on this ocassion the Summit ends Thursday evening21:10
mlavalleSo I assumed a lot of people might not stick around that night21:10
mlavalleAny other annoouncements from the team?21:11
mlavalleok, moving on21:12
mlavalle#topic Blueprints21:12
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mlavalleThese are the blueprints and bugs that we are targeting for Rocky-1:21:13
mlavalle#link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/rocky-121:13
mlavalleThis week I will be chacking status with the assignees to see progress and roll over what was not finished to R-221:14
mlavalleDoes anyone want to bring any blueprint for discussion today?21:14
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mlavalleboden: in regards to the decoupling of the DB layer to neutron-lib, I want to mention that last night I merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509564/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473531/21:16
patchbotpatch 509564 - neutron-specs - decouple neutron db models and ovo for neutron-lib (MERGED)21:16
patchbotpatch 473531 - neutron-specs - rehome db api and utils into neutron-lib (MERGED)21:16
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bodenmlavalle ack and thanks.. the lib (code) patches are out there too21:16
mlavallefor the other memebers of the team, this is the gerrit topic for the decoupling of the DB layer:21:17
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/neutronlib-decouple-db,n,z21:17
mlavalleI encourage the team to take a look and help reviewing this21:18
mlavalleDoes anyone else have any other blueprints to bring up?21:19
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mlavalleIn regards to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db21:20
mlavallewe have a subsection of the agenda to track the progress and pending work21:20
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mlavalleThe OVO sub-team keeps a very detailed spreadsheet of what work is left to be done in the adoption of OVO in Neutron:21:21
mlavalle#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Mz7V40GSdcUH_aBoNWjsFaNRp4wf-duz1GFWligiNXc/edit#gid=105178884821:21
mlavalleAs you will see there, there is good chunk left to be done21:21
mlavalleSo make your pick and help with this topic21:22
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mlavalleThis subteam holds a weekly IRC meeting. These are the meeting details:21:23
slaweqgreat list - thx21:23
mlavalle#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Neutron_Upgrades_Meeting21:23
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mlavalleso if you are interested in helping with OVO, join lujinluo and her gang. They will welcome you with open arms ;-)21:24
mlavalleok, moving on21:24
mlavalle#topic Community goals21:25
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mlavalleDoes anybody have updates on community goals?21:25
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slaweqI just wanted to mention that https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/rocky/enable-mutable-configuration.html can be IMO consider as done21:26
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mlavalleslaweq: you read my mind. I was going to ask exactly that21:27
slaweqmlavalle: :D21:27
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bodenand there is no impact to decoupled plugin projects as part of that?21:28
mlavalleslaweq: so I will update the storyboard and indicate we are done21:28
slaweqI think that storyboard is updated automatically21:28
slaweqif You are talking about this one: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001545 :)21:28
mlavalleyou are are right, it shows merged21:29
slaweqit's marked as "merged" for neutron and neutron-dynamic-routing21:29
mlavalleslaweq: any answer to boden ^^^^21:29
mlavalle?21:29
slaweqboden: only neutron-dynamic-routing required such change21:29
slaweqthere is no impact for other plugins AFAIK21:30
bodenslaweq: did you only check stadium plugins?21:30
slaweqboden: do You mean if I looked for stadium plugins if same change is required there?21:30
slaweqlike for midonet for example?21:31
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mlavallehe is concerned about projects outside the stadium21:31
bodenslaweq: what I’m trying to understand is if I’m a non-stadium plugin, should there be any TODOs for me as part of this?21:31
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slaweqAFAIK non-stadium projects are not official OpenStack projects right?21:31
bodenslaweq: you’re talking politics now21:32
slaweqif so, then they don't have to do it - they can if they want21:32
mlavalleThey are OpenStack projects21:32
slaweqok, so what I did was:21:32
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mlavallebut they are not in the Stadium21:32
slaweqI checked via http://codesearch.openstack.org for all "neutron-X" or "networking-X" projects if such change would be necessary there21:32
mlavalleboden: let's assume you need to dig in regards to the specific non stadium project you are concerned about21:33
bodenmlavalle: sure, would’ve been nice to see a note or something though with some pointers and such21:33
slaweqI didn't found any projects which required such change there except neutron-dynamic-routing and neutron-lbaas21:34
slaweqbut I might missed something21:34
bodenI will dig, there are projects that don’t have networking or neutron in the name21:34
slaweqboden: so sorry if I missed them21:35
mlavalleslaweq: would you send a message to ML with the current status, what you found in your code search and what would be the steps if a non Stadium project needs to take care of this?21:35
bodenI think my point is we need to try and think broader than just stadium projects; we have non-stadium projects that are coupled with neutron and used in production21:35
bodenI’m done ranting now21:35
slaweqmlavalle: sure, I will send such email21:35
mlavalleboden: you point is well taken21:35
mlavallewill the message to the ML be useful, boden?21:36
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bodenmlavalle if there’s potential for impact, then IMHO yes21:36
mlavalleslaweq: thanks for your work, the update and the message to the ML :-). Good job21:37
slaweqno problem :)21:37
bodenslaweq yes thanks! I’m just trying not to be broken over here :)21:38
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slaweqboden: I fully understand. Thanks for taking care of it :)21:38
mlavalle++21:38
mlavalleok, let's move on21:38
mlavalle#topic Bugs21:39
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mlavalleI was the bugs deputy last week21:39
mlavalleIt was a more or less quite week21:39
mlavalleI spent time exchanging messages in several bugs where I ended up providing installation support21:40
mlavalleWe had one critical bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/176241421:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1762414 in neutron "Unable to create a FIP when L2GW is enabled" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Gary Kotton (garyk)21:41
mlavalleIt is being taken care by garyk21:41
mlavalleI also asked slaweq help triaging https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/176273621:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1762736 in neutron "Iptables firewall driver adds forward rules for trusted ports only in the ingress direction" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Nikita Gerasimov (nikita-gerasimov)21:42
mlavalleWhich he is doing, thanks :-)21:42
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slaweqYour welcome21:43
mlavalleAre there any other bugs that we should discuss in the meeting?21:43
mlavalleok21:44
mlavalleOur bugs deputy calendar says that I will be on duty this week. But I exchanged my duty with yamamoto, because he was travelling last week21:45
mlavalleso yamamoto is this week's deputy21:45
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mlavalleI will also be rolling over the calendar, so please watch out for your next duty week21:46
mlavalle#topic Bugs21:46
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mlavalle#undo21:46
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #topic Bugs21:46
mlavalle#topic Docs21:47
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bodenhi so it might be worth mentioning http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129394.html  some projects sphinx doc builds are likely failing21:48
mlavalleI am trying to keep up with the patches submitted by Michal, hongbin_ and boden21:48
boden^^ for stable builds21:49
mlavalleboden: thanks for bringing it up21:49
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mlavalleboden: please also tell Michal he is doing a good job documenting all those missing APIs21:50
bodenmlavalle will do21:50
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mlavalleboden: are you and he aware that the multiprovider network api is missing?21:50
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bodenmlavalle I wasn’t and I don’t see it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=api-ref21:51
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mlavalleboden: I can file a bug and assign it to her if that helps21:52
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bodenmlavalle if you don’t mind; just easier to track21:52
mlavallewill do21:52
mlavalle#topic neutron lib21:52
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mlavalleany updates boden ?21:53
bodenI just quickly want to mention that for most projects you can no longer run py27/pep8 etc locally with master branches due to neutron and others now being versioned21:53
bodenso this has been impacting my local testing of lib changes21:54
Straemeris this a linux based routing channel?21:54
mlavalleStraemer: no21:55
mlavalleboden thanks21:55
mlavallemoving on21:56
mlavalle#topic CLI / SDK21:56
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mlavalleamotoki: you around?21:56
mlavalleok21:57
mlavalle#topic Open Agenda21:57
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mlavalleDoes any one have any other topic?21:57
Straemerare we talking Computer IP networking21:57
mlavalleok, Thanks for attending the meeting. Have a nice week!21:58
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mlavalle#endmeeting21:58
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Apr 16 21:58:36 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:58
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mlavalleStraemer: this channel is used for meetings of OpenStack teams21:59
Straemerah ok I apologise21:59
mlavallewe just finished the OpenStack Networking weekly meeting21:59
mlavalleStraemer: np21:59
slaweqthx, bye21:59
StraemerI am an instructor at a company that delivers cyber security courses21:59
StraemerI have over 20 years experience in Microsoft and Cisco22:00
Straemerso I was just curious22:00
Straemerapologise again for interruption22:00
mlavalleno problem22:01
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