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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Feb 23 15:00:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx, armstrong | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:00 |
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| fungi | that time again | 15:00 |
| armstrong | Hello | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Howdy all | 15:00 |
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| lbragstad | o/ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Looks like we are way way down on line 518 | 15:01 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Release Status | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Status (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:02 | |
| smcginnis | There were a few stagglers this morning, but I processed the remaining RC patches. | 15:02 |
| lbragstad | \o/ | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | The dashboard looks pretty good right now. | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | nice! | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | And this was (knock on wood) a pretty smooth deadline overall I think. | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | so we could put together the final release patch after the meeting and start piling up PTL and liaison +1 votes | 15:03 |
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| smcginnis | My plan was to do that and also include the release note links. | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:03 |
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| dhellmann | we could go ahead and do the release notes links as a separate patch and approve that one today | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | I ran it earlier and there were several that have the page but do not have it included in the deliverable file. | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | OK, that's a good idea. | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Especially as more people start seeking out those release notes. | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | right | 15:05 |
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| smcginnis | So looking at the task list on line 514 copied from the PROCESS doc. | 15:05 |
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| dhellmann | at this point all of the projects should have notes of some sort, but we can update others later if any don't | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | First one I will do right after the meeting to get the release notes out. | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 15:05 |
| smcginnis | We did the list_unreleased_changes and I think we had contacted everyone that looked like they needed it. | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | yeah, and we've done the final rcs now, right? | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | And I'm pretty sure they all did another RC where needed. | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | I mean at this point just based on timing I think we can say yes | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Yep, I think so. | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | we can always do bug fix releases after we're back from dublin | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | I will also run the propose-final-releases a little later to get that going. | 15:06 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: Did you verify with the docs team that things are all set for rocky? | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | I verified by looking at the pages but didn't talk to pkovar | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | let me see if he's online now | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | The presense of the pages should be a good indication, right? | 15:08 |
| * smcginnis is not really sure what is all involved on the docs side. | 15:09 | |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | #link https://docs.openstack.org/doc-contrib-guide/release/taskdetail.html#update-www-pages-for-end-of-release | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | Awesome | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | I've asked pkovar in #openstack-docs. If there's anything to do I'll let you know. | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | ok, he confirms that everything is set | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | OK, good. It appears we are OK, but if any steps still need to be done I would think it would be easy. I think we're in good shape. | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | Great! | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | #topic PTG plan | 15:10 |
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| smcginnis | Monday and Tuesday we have the help room. | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | There are a few other things I need to attend to, so I was thinking I would just send out a notice that if anyone needed release team time during those days to just let us know. | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | good idea | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | I sat in the room for a while last time and just got one question. | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | And that would have been easy enough to answer over IRC. | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | But I definitely want to be available if anyone needs anything. | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | one team, maybe docs?, suggested that folks schedule time | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | maybe we can do something similar | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | IIRC, they had an ethercalc. | 15:12 |
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| smcginnis | We could probably do that too. | 15:13 |
| fungi | yep, the infra and qa teams are doing something similar | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | a pattern we can copy! | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 15:13 |
| fungi | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/cvro305izog2 | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | Or I was thinking keeping it easy and just use the ptgbot and the ptg channel to let folks know to just ping us. | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | Any thoughts one way or the other? | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | that works, too | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : maybe have them ping release-team? | 15:14 |
| dhellmann | I can add that to my watch list | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | That works for me. | 15:14 |
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| fungi | the ethercalc is probably overkill unless you anticipate a lot of people trying to get your attention all at the same time | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I don't, so I think it would be more effort than it's worth. ;) | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | But willing to go that route if folks think it's better. | 15:14 |
| fungi | for infra we already knew we had people lining up to schedule some time to talk | 15:15 |
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| fungi | so wanted to make sure they didn't all show up simultaneously | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | Much more needs from infra than release team I would think. | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | And more time consuming too. | 15:15 |
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| fungi | that's because the release documentation and automation are so good ;) | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | I would really only expect questions like "what's this new repository-settings thing that broke my patch" kinds of questions. :-) | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | we're going to answer all of the questions in the lunch presentation anyway, right? | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | Right, good point. | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | Lunch presentation is Wed, right? | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | blanking right now | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | me, too | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | I should make sure that's on my calendar | 15:17 |
| * smcginnis pulls up his schedule | 15:17 | |
| dhellmann | lunch is 12:30-1:30? | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Yep | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dublin-PTG-postlunch has it thursday (at the bottom of the page) | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | but I don't know if that's right | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | I should look for ttx's email | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | I don't think his specified, just said there would be presentations. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Let's plan on Thursday but be ready Wednesday just in case. | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-February/127316.html | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | that has us thursday, too | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Oh, there it is. I tried looking but only found a different post. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Perfect, that gives some time. | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | Wednesday at some point we will just find a spot and process the final release. | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | the nova retrospective is wednesday morning and I'd like to try to go to that, so maybe ~9:30? | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | Thursday is also the cycle-trailing RC deadline, but that should be pretty minor. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: I was planning to attend that as well. | 15:20 |
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| smcginnis | I've heard both 9-9:30 and 9-10, but we can circle up whenever it actually ends. | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:21 |
| fungi | remember to give annabelleB a heads up when you settle on a time | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Oh, good point. I will email her today to let her know what we are thinking. | 15:21 |
| fungi | also give me a heads up in case you need someone to reenqueue or troubleshoot anything on tight notice ;) | 15:22 |
| fungi | i'll either camp out with you or at least pay close attention in irc | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Did you want to join us? Or just let you know when we are about to so you are at the ready? | 15:22 |
| fungi | depending on what else is going on at that time | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | OK, I will ping you ahead of time and you can decide. | 15:22 |
| fungi | thanks. schedules seem to be a little fluid still, but i anticipate just being there for the process unless something else is pressing | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | It is always hard to set concrete schedules for these weeks. | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Anything else for next week we should all be aware of? | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | I was wondering if Tuesday evening might work to get everyone out and buy a round? | 15:24 |
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| fungi | i think the infra team is doing dinner that nught, but depending on timing it could work | 15:25 |
| fungi | s/naught/night/ | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | the mixer is tuesday, isn't it? | 15:25 |
| * fungi consults trusty ptg.o.o site | 15:26 | |
| smcginnis | Yep | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | And the sing along. :) | 15:26 |
| * dhellmann did not put the sing along on his calendar | 15:26 | |
| * smcginnis wants to see dhellmann singing | 15:27 | |
| * dhellmann thinks smcginnis will end up waiting a long time | 15:27 | |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:27 |
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| fungi | i was going to be a music major, but couldn't make it out of first year sight-signing | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | Wednesday I am supposed to have a work dinner, but I can miss that or be late if that works. We can play it by ear next week. | 15:27 |
| lbragstad | fungi i minored in music - that class was the death of me | 15:28 |
| fungi | er, sight-singing | 15:28 |
| fungi | sight signing would be something else entirely | 15:28 |
| * fungi curses finger memory | 15:28 | |
| dhellmann | looking at the schedule, I'm wondering what happened to "no formal scheduled evening events" | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | I think there were a bunch of people saying they wanted a formal scheduled evening event. ;) | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | Or semi-formal. | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | maybe we can go out one afternoon and make snowmen in the park or something | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | Supposed to be snow, so that's possible. | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | right | 15:30 |
| fungi | #release next drunken snowmen in the park | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | Haha | 15:30 |
| * dhellmann adds "snowman" to the list of S names | 15:30 | |
| fungi | has to come with a photo | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | Pics or it didn't happen. | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | Schneemann is exactly 10 letters, so that works | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything else for today? | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | I'm liking Stein. | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | I don't have anything else | 15:31 |
| fungi | i predicted that would be the winnar | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | we have a pretty good track record of picking the least cool name on the list | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | people need to campaign if they want stein :-) | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | I've felt the same way too. | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | Just think of the marketing swag. It's a no brainer. | 15:32 |
| persia | It may be that some folk vote for non-cool in part because they are thinking about productisation. | 15:32 |
| fungi | i'll add a unicode stein | 15:32 |
| persia | Words that mean things are dangerous in that context. | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | Bleh | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:32 |
| * dhellmann wonders which words don't mean anything | 15:32 | |
| smcginnis | Alright, let's wrap up then and get back to it. Thanks everyone. | 15:33 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Feb 23 15:33:29 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-02-23-15.00.html | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-02-23-15.00.txt | 15:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-02-23-15.00.log.html | 15:33 |
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