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| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 03:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-10-17_0300_UTC Today's agenda | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| Namrata | Namrata | 03:00 |
| kevinz | o/ | 03:00 |
| kiennt26 | o/ | 03:01 |
| hongbin | thanks for joining Namrata kevinz kiennt26 | 03:01 |
| hongbin | we could have a short meeting today if not too much people is able to join | 03:02 |
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| zsli_ | shunli | 03:02 |
| hongbin | hi zsli_ | 03:02 |
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| hongbin | let's get started | 03:02 |
| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 03:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:02 | |
| FengShengqin | O/ | 03:02 |
| hongbin | hi FengShengqin | 03:02 |
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| FengShengqin | sorry for later | 03:03 |
| hongbin | i have an announcement, i and lakerzhou will have a presentation in sydney summit | 03:03 |
| hongbin | the topic is about Zun SR-IOV support | 03:03 |
| hongbin | this is the announcement i want to make | 03:03 |
| hongbin | anyone else has an announcement ? | 03:03 |
| kevinz | Great! | 03:04 |
| hongbin | FengShengqin: np, thanks for joining | 03:04 |
| hongbin | #topic Cinder integration (hongbin) | 03:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cinder integration (hongbin) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:04 | |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/direct-cinder-integration Direct Cinder integration | 03:04 |
| hongbin | there are a few patches under reviews for this BP | 03:04 |
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| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/zun+branch:master+topic:bp/direct-cinder-integration | 03:05 |
| hongbin | in particular, we need reviews for these two patches: | 03:05 |
| hongbin | 1. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499381/ | 03:05 |
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| hongbin | 2. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499374/ | 03:05 |
| hongbin | welcome feedback if you have a chance to review | 03:05 |
| hongbin | that is all from me about this bp | 03:06 |
| hongbin | any question? | 03:06 |
| kevinz | I'm just reviewing the 499374 now | 03:06 |
| hongbin | kevinz: thx, look forward to your feedback | 03:06 |
| kevinz | 499374 is the base for the next few pathes? | 03:07 |
| hongbin | yes, it is | 03:07 |
| kiennt26 | kevinz: yes | 03:07 |
| kevinz | this is a workflow patch so that I can use it to mount the volume? | 03:07 |
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| kevinz | Or it need more patches to realize the function? | 03:08 |
| hongbin | yes, it provides the API for later patches to mount the cinder volume to compute host | 03:08 |
| kevinz | hongbin: OK | 03:08 |
| hongbin | the major api is the two methods: attach_volume, and detach_volume | 03:09 |
| hongbin | all the codes are for implementing these two methods | 03:09 |
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| kevinz | hongbin: thanks for the information. | 03:09 |
| hongbin | kevinz: np | 03:09 |
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| Namrata | i have a question | 03:10 |
| hongbin | Namrata: go ahead | 03:10 |
| Namrata | can I downloaad this and run and attach the volume | 03:10 |
| Namrata | or some work is pending | 03:10 |
| hongbin | i think you need to download all the patches to get it work | 03:11 |
| Namrata | okay want to test it will download all patches | 03:11 |
| hongbin | supposet you downloaded all the patches, the way to test it is: docker --mount source=<my_cinder_volume>,destination=/data <image> ... | 03:11 |
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| Namrata | okay got it | 03:12 |
| hongbin | Namrata: thanks | 03:12 |
| Namrata | thanks hongbin | 03:12 |
| hongbin | ok, let's move on to the next topic | 03:12 |
| hongbin | #topic Introduce container composition (kevinz) | 03:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Introduce container composition (kevinz) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:12 | |
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| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/introduce-compose | 03:12 |
| hongbin | kevinz: ^^ | 03:12 |
| kevinz | Last week I've tried to register a node in K8s with the kubernetes python client called "client-python" | 03:13 |
| kevinz | The register node process is easy to finish | 03:14 |
| kevinz | client-python is the official kubernetes client | 03:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://github.com/kubernetes-incubator/client-python | 03:14 |
| kevinz | Yes, this one | 03:14 |
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| hongbin | almost official, it is incubating | 03:14 |
| kevinz | I see dims also contribute some code in this project | 03:15 |
| hongbin | but i think this is the right choice as a pything binding | 03:15 |
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| hongbin | cool | 03:15 |
| hongbin | i assume the capsule coding is almost finish ? | 03:16 |
| kevinz | remain one features "upgrade" and a document | 03:17 |
| kevinz | Document I've submitted to gerrit and will modified this week | 03:17 |
| hongbin | cool | 03:17 |
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| kevinz | upgrade features is not implemented. | 03:17 |
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| kevinz | This need container upgrade first | 03:18 |
| hongbin | in overall, i think this is a good progress | 03:18 |
| hongbin | yes | 03:18 |
| hongbin | thanks kevinz for getting the capsule implemented | 03:19 |
| hongbin | and we are almost there | 03:19 |
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| kevinz | hongbin: My pleasure:-) | 03:19 |
| hongbin | thanks kevinz | 03:20 |
| hongbin | any other comment about this topic? | 03:20 |
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| hongbin | #topic Add support for clear container (mkrai) | 03:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add support for clear container (mkrai) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:21 | |
| hongbin | mkrai: you there? | 03:21 |
| Namrata | no she will not attend the meeting | 03:21 |
| hongbin | Namrata: ack | 03:21 |
| Namrata | there is festival in india | 03:21 |
| hongbin | let's skip this one | 03:21 |
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| hongbin | i see | 03:21 |
| hongbin | Namrata: hope you guys enjoy the festival | 03:21 |
| Namrata | thanks hongbin | 03:22 |
| hongbin | #topic NFV use cases (lakerzhou, Shunli) | 03:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "NFV use cases (lakerzhou, Shunli) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:22 | |
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| hongbin | Shunli: ^^ | 03:22 |
| Shunli | the pci tracker is under reviewing. | 03:23 |
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| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508025/ | 03:23 |
| Shunli | The pci devcie of compute node can be collected now. | 03:23 |
| hongbin | sounds great ! | 03:23 |
| Shunli | a new patch for pci request has submitted, WIP. | 03:23 |
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| Shunli | @hongbin, are you working on the pci request patch? | 03:24 |
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| hongbin | Shunli: i might borrwo your patch to do a hack | 03:24 |
| Shunli | @hongbin, what port info does kuryr need? | 03:24 |
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| hongbin | Shunli: i would say you can continue to finish your patch if you want, i might hack your patch for a demo only | 03:25 |
| hongbin | Shunli: kuryr needs some information, but i didn't remember them right now | 03:25 |
| Shunli | from my investigation of nova code, seem i just set the binding_type=direct, port profile, mac. | 03:26 |
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| hongbin | Shunli: yes, all those need to be set | 03:26 |
| Shunli | do these info enough to connect a port to docker container、 | 03:26 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500436/15/doc/source/config-sriov.rst | 03:26 |
| hongbin | Shunli: i am working on a WIP patch in kuryr-libnetwork side, it contains a docs about the detailed information | 03:27 |
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| hongbin | Shunli: please check out the link above | 03:27 |
| Shunli | OK, i will go through the doc. | 03:27 |
| hongbin | however, it is a WIP, so expect it to break :) | 03:28 |
| hongbin | Shunli: ack, thanks for your work on this feature, we will demo your work in sydney | 03:28 |
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| Shunli | @hongbin, since zun has no flavor, seems we can only support pre-created SRIOV port use case. | 03:28 |
| hongbin | Shunli: if you don't mind, we can put your name on the presentation | 03:28 |
| hongbin | Shunli: yes | 03:29 |
| Shunli | No problem. but i seems cannot join the submmit. | 03:29 |
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| hongbin | Shunli: yes, we can still mention you even you cannot join | 03:29 |
| hongbin | :) | 03:29 |
| Shunli | @hongbin, the pci request patch, i didn't implement zun scheduler filter. | 03:30 |
| Shunli | suppose any host can support pci request. | 03:30 |
| hongbin | i see | 03:31 |
| hongbin | np, i can hack the scheduler for demo purpose | 03:31 |
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| Shunli | ok, ack. | 03:31 |
| hongbin | Shunli: for the non-pre-created SRIOV port use case, i am open for proposal if you have one | 03:32 |
| hongbin | we can revisit it later | 03:32 |
| Shunli | will work on pci request today, hope it will be ready for review this weekend. | 03:32 |
| hongbin | ok, that would be great | 03:32 |
| Shunli | that's all for me | 03:32 |
| hongbin | thanks Shunli | 03:33 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 03:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:33 | |
| hongbin | anyone has a topic to bring up ? | 03:33 |
| kiennt26 | none from me. | 03:33 |
| Shunli | no | 03:34 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: btw, thanks for your work on the zuul v3 migration | 03:34 |
| Namrata | not from my side too | 03:34 |
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| hongbin | all, thanks for joining the meeting, see you next time | 03:34 |
| kiennt26 | hongbin: my pleasure! | 03:34 |
| kevinz | kiennt26: Thanks +1 | 03:34 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 03:34:53 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-10-17-03.00.html | 03:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-10-17-03.00.txt | 03:34 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-10-17-03.00.log.html | 03:34 |
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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 04:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
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| samP | hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | hi all | 04:00 |
| rkmrHonjo | Hi | 04:00 |
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| samP | let's start | 04:00 |
| samP | #info Got room for project onboarding in AUS summit | 04:01 |
| tpatil | That's good news | 04:01 |
| samP | please let me know if you are available to speak on this session | 04:01 |
| niraj_singh | hi | 04:02 |
| tpatil | let's decide what sessions to be held | 04:02 |
| samP | It was in hurry, so I ask the session with me as a speaker | 04:02 |
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| samP | I cloud ask to add other as speakers | 04:03 |
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| samP | tpatil: sure, lets talk about this in ML. | 04:03 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:03 |
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| samP | #topic critical bugs | 04:03 |
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| samP | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1721742 | 04:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721742 in masakari "Masakari will fail to recovery instances on failure host if instance's task_state is not none" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to takahara.kengo (takahara.kengo) | 04:04 |
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| rkmrHonjo | I heard that Takahara is creating a patch for it. | 04:04 |
| samP | Kengo has confirmed that reset set the VM_STATE to error and tast_state to none | 04:05 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:05 |
| rkmrHonjo | sorry for interrupting. | 04:05 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: np | 04:05 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: you may proceed with original proposal | 04:05 |
| samP | Any other bugs? | 04:06 |
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| samP | If any, please bring them on AOB at the end of the meeting | 04:06 |
| samP | #topic Discussion Points | 04:07 |
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| samP | (1) Horizon Plugin (Dashboard) | 04:07 |
| tpatil | samP: Need your approval | 04:07 |
| samP | I read the BP, LGTM | 04:08 |
| samP | are you plan to implement all at once? | 04:08 |
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| tpatil | Yes, Niraj has already completed POC, we will manage to implement failover segment and hosts in Queens Release | 04:09 |
| niraj_singh | Yes | 04:09 |
| tpatil | If something remains, can by postponed to the next release | 04:10 |
| samP | tpatil: niraj_singh: great, thanks. Approved | 04:10 |
| samP | tpatil: sure | 04:10 |
| niraj_singh | samP: Thanks | 04:10 |
| tpatil | we might need some help from you to get the new repo for masakari-dashboard | 04:10 |
| samP | tpatil: sure | 04:10 |
| samP | tpatil: would you like me to create it? | 04:11 |
| tpatil | samP: we will ask for your help on ML or IRC | 04:11 |
| samP | tpatil: sure, np | 04:11 |
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| tpatil | Any idea, how many patches we need to submit to create a new repo? | 04:12 |
| samP | let me know when you need me | 04:12 |
| samP | tpatil: just one patch to project config | 04:12 |
| tpatil | samP: OK | 04:12 |
| tpatil | Once the blueprint is approved, we will submit a patch to project config | 04:13 |
| samP | then infra team will create the repo. Then we have to init it with cookie cutter and start to fill it with code | 04:13 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok, Thanks | 04:14 |
| tpatil | samP: You have approved the blueprint, Thanks | 04:15 |
| samP | #link Project creates guide https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html | 04:15 |
| samP | tpatil: ^^ will help you | 04:15 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok, We will refer this guide | 04:15 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:16 |
| samP | (2) Install guide document (in progress) | 04:16 |
| tpatil | what should be the repo name? | 04:16 |
| tpatil | masakari-dashboard? | 04:16 |
| samP | tpatil: good question | 04:16 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | According to the convention like "mistral-dashboard", "congress-dashboard" I think "masakari-dashboard" seems good to me. | 04:17 |
| samP | most people named as [project name]-dashboard | 04:18 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: correct | 04:18 |
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| tpatil | samP: we will mention this as a project name | 04:18 |
| samP | you may find this info on openstack-infra/project-config/gerrit/projects.yaml | 04:19 |
| tpatil | secondly, are we going to manage all tasks of dashboard in the same masakari Launchpad project? | 04:19 |
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| samP | tpatil: I prefer to have it separate, but what would you think? | 04:20 |
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| samP | normally, one project one bug tracker | 04:20 |
| tpatil | samP: I don't see any problems if it's managed in a single project | 04:21 |
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| tpatil | samP: do you see any problems from release management perspective? | 04:22 |
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| samP | tpatil: Not from release management. However, let me look around and decide | 04:23 |
| samP | If you some one want to get the packages from LP, then it would be a problem | 04:23 |
| tpatil | samP: Sure, In the mean time ,we will go through the guide | 04:23 |
| samP | tpatil: sure, I will put more details in ML for this | 04:24 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok, Thanks | 04:24 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:24 |
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| samP | Any other questions on this^^? | 04:25 |
| tpatil | samP: I'm good for now | 04:25 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks, ping me if you need smt | 04:26 |
| samP | (2) Install guide document (in progress) | 04:26 |
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| samP | I will review these docs today. In the meantime please update the schema | 04:26 |
| abhishekk | I will finish this in current week | 04:26 |
| samP | abhishekk: sure, that would be great | 04:27 |
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| samP | abhishekk: thanks | 04:27 |
| abhishekk | samP: NP | 04:27 |
| rkmrHonjo | Sorry, monitor document is not updated yet. | 04:27 |
| rkmrHonjo | But, I and Takahara try it. | 04:28 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: np, I only review the details in the doc. you may update it any time | 04:28 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: thanks. | 04:28 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: abhishekk: thanks again for doc work | 04:28 |
| samP | (3) recovery method customization | 04:29 |
| samP | I think spec update in progress now.. | 04:29 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | yes | 04:29 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: great, thanks | 04:30 |
| tpatil | samP: correct, we are planning to make each notification type configurable | 04:30 |
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| tpatil | samP: for example, host failure, you can use mistral workflow driver and for instance failure it should be possible to use the existing task flow driver | 04:30 |
| samP | tpatil: for each notification type, user may configure different work flow driver | 04:31 |
| tpatil | samP: correct | 04:31 |
| samP | And this will be a config option, right? | 04:31 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | yes | 04:31 |
| samP | excellent | 04:32 |
| tpatil | samP: correct, adding all these logic may take more time though | 04:32 |
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| samP | tpatil: understand. | 04:32 |
| tpatil | as in the current code, it can only load one driver for all notification types | 04:32 |
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| samP | tpatil: correct, we need to start form there, | 04:33 |
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| samP | allow load multiple drivers according to config values | 04:34 |
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| tpatil | samP: We will upload specs in couple of days | 04:34 |
| tpatil | samP: Sure | 04:34 |
| samP | tpatil: sure | 04:34 |
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| samP | tpatil: Dinesh_Bhor: abhishekk: Thank you for the proposal and all the work | 04:35 |
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| samP | (4) Find hosts without specifying segments | 04:36 |
| samP | #link sepc and code https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/find-segment-by-host+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 04:36 |
| samP | I put a comment on the spec, about creating a another command for this | 04:37 |
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| samP | I prefer to add this feature in to host show command | 04:37 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Thanks. I and Takahara check it and reply. | 04:37 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: sure, I put -1 to patch, just to hold it till we fix the spec. | 04:38 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: ok. | 04:38 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: please consider my comment and let me know what would you think | 04:38 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: Sure. In my understanding, this spec says that new sub-command requires only host id or name. | 04:39 |
| rkmrHonjo | > Create a subcommand in masakariclient to find segment by specifying host name or id. | 04:39 |
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| chason | o/ | 04:39 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: true | 04:39 |
| samP | chason: hi | 04:39 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: But, your comment said that "In your current proposal, if user wants to execute segment_host_show, user need to input host name/id and segment name/id.". | 04:40 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: I think this comment is based on misunderstanding. Do you think about it? | 04:41 |
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| rkmrHonjo | If this new sub-command doesn't exist, user should run host-list for each segments to know the relation of host and segment. | 04:41 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: even if you implement this, user still need to input host name and segment name to host show. | 04:41 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: My proposal is to, include this feature into host show command | 04:42 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Ah...I understand your purpose. | 04:42 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: sorry, my comment in the spec is not bit messy | 04:42 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: OK, I and Takahara rethink about your idea. | 04:42 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: sure, if you need more info or help, please let me know | 04:43 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: thanks. | 04:43 |
| tpatil | samP: So what you are asking is to make failover segment id or name optional in case of host show command, correct? | 04:43 |
| samP | tpatil: correct | 04:43 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok, it makes sense to me | 04:44 |
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| samP | with this feature, we can make segment id/name optional for host show command, and remove in future | 04:45 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: I got it. | 04:45 |
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| samP | (5) Queens Work items | 04:46 |
| samP | I think no update on this. right? | 04:46 |
| rkmrHonjo | Yes, from my side. | 04:46 |
| tpatil | ssl item is complete | 04:46 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:47 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:47 |
| tpatil | samP: I will make this item as completed in the etherpad | 04:47 |
| tpatil | s/make/mark | 04:47 |
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| samP | tpatil: Thanks, that would be nice | 04:47 |
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| samP | (6) BMHA | 04:48 |
| samP | no update on Masakari side | 04:48 |
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| samP | nova spec in review | 04:48 |
| samP | #link nova spec for BM node migrate/resize https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449155/ | 04:49 |
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| samP | once it fixed, lets reconsider on this. | 04:49 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:49 |
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| samP | chason: Hi | 04:49 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | welcome chason | 04:50 |
| samP | chason: welcome to Masakari | 04:50 |
| samP | chason: would you like to introduce your self? | 04:50 |
| samP | in the meantime, anyone have AOB items? | 04:51 |
| tpatil | Yes | 04:51 |
| samP | tpatil: go ahead | 04:51 |
| tpatil | Enable-openstack-proposal-bot and ha-enabled-config-options blueprints are already released in Pike. | 04:51 |
| chason | Yeah | 04:51 |
| tpatil | # link : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/masakari/+spec/enable-openstack-proposal-bot | 04:52 |
| tpatil | #link : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/masakari/+spec/enable-openstack-proposal-bot | 04:52 |
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| tpatil | We will update the status of these blueprints from our side. sam | 04:53 |
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| chason | I am a core of openstack-manuals and have an interest on Masakari project. I can work on our project's documentation. :D | 04:53 |
| samP | tpatil: sure, it seems some problem with bot | 04:53 |
| tpatil | samP: Thanks | 04:53 |
| samP | chason: That is great. | 04:54 |
| tpatil | chason: That will be great, We need documentation experts in our project | 04:54 |
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| rkmrHonjo | chason: Thank you for attending! | 04:54 |
| samP | currently we are creating some docs, | 04:55 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:docs/operators | 04:55 |
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| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:operators_guide | 04:55 |
| chason | Aha, looking forward to working together with you guys. :P | 04:55 |
| abhishekk | chason: as we are now official, we are modifying above patches to use openstackdocs theme | 04:55 |
| chason | samP checking | 04:56 |
| samP | chason: I would really appreciate it if you could review those doc and give us some feed back | 04:56 |
| chason | abhishekk Oh, I can do something for it. | 04:56 |
| samP | chason: if you need any help on masakari, you may find us in #openstack-masakari or ML | 04:57 |
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| abhishekk | chason: I will let you know | 04:57 |
| samP | chason: Thanks you in advance | 04:57 |
| abhishekk | chason: right now it will be great if you help in review :D | 04:57 |
| abhishekk | chason: as I have already started working on it :D | 04:57 |
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| samP | tpatil: I will update the status in LP BPs | 04:58 |
| chason | samP It's OK. | 04:58 |
| samP | I think we are running out of time here | 04:58 |
| tpatil | samP: Thanks | 04:58 |
| samP | For further discussions, please use #openstack-masakari or ML | 04:58 |
| samP | let's finish this meeting | 04:59 |
| abhishekk | thank you | 04:59 |
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| samP | Thank you all....... | 04:59 |
| chason | thanks | 04:59 |
| rkmrHonjo | bye | 04:59 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Thank you all | 04:59 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 04:59:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-10-17-04.00.html | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-10-17-04.00.txt | 04:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-10-17-04.00.log.html | 04:59 |
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| ruijie | #startmeeting senlin | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 13:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ruijie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: senlin)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' | 13:00 |
| ruijie | hi | 13:00 |
| Qiming | hi, ruijie | 13:01 |
| ruijie | hi Qiming | 13:01 |
| ruijie | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda#Agenda_.282017-10-17_1300_UTC.29 | 13:01 |
| ruijie | here is the agenda | 13:01 |
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| Qiming | okay | 13:03 |
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| ruijie | the work item I am following on are: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504870/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506550/ | 13:04 |
| ruijie | they have migrated the zuul to zuul V3, so we may need another patches to add the job templates for senlin-tempest-plugin project | 13:05 |
| Qiming | looks like both are on track | 13:05 |
| Qiming | okay, I believe we may need to adjust the CI scripts for gate jobs to run correctly | 13:06 |
| ruijie | yes Qiming | 13:06 |
| ruijie | another question is about the dead lock .. | 13:07 |
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| ruijie | it came up again, and as I talked with chenyb4, they met the problem too | 13:07 |
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| Qiming | is there a bug report on this? | 13:09 |
| ruijie | not yet Qiming, I am still looking at it, looks like still the problem of DB side | 13:10 |
| Qiming | sigh | 13:10 |
| ruijie | the cluster lock was not released correctly | 13:10 |
| Qiming | not released? | 13:10 |
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| ruijie | yes Qiming, triggered cluster_delete, but the action failed. The current situation is: 3 of the node_delete action are still in "RUNNING" state, the cluster action is in "FAILED" state, and the cluster lock is still there | 13:12 |
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| Qiming | node deletion running | 13:13 |
| Qiming | but cluster action failed? | 13:13 |
| ruijie | yes .. strange | 13:13 |
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| Qiming | that could not happen | 13:14 |
| Qiming | it sounds not like a cluster lock problem | 13:14 |
| Qiming | the question is why cluster action failed? | 13:15 |
| ruijie | the profile layer raised exceptions, some of the node deletion actions failed | 13:16 |
| Qiming | then node delete actions should fail | 13:16 |
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| ruijie | yes Qiming, none of the node actions shoule be in "RUNNING" state .. | 13:16 |
| Qiming | so ... a bug report with detailed status of locks would be helpful | 13:17 |
| ruijie | sure Qiming, I will draft an bug with the details | 13:18 |
| Qiming | do we need some tooling support for better debugging? | 13:18 |
| ruijie | Qiming you have any suggestions, I am using log and pdb now ..:( | 13:19 |
| Qiming | the sqlalchemy layer is very annoying ... | 13:19 |
| Qiming | and oslo.db layer is masking some of the parameters | 13:20 |
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| ruijie | maybe we can find some methods to reduce the dependency on DB? | 13:22 |
| Qiming | I don't think so | 13:22 |
| Qiming | DB concurrency is a mature technology | 13:23 |
| Qiming | however, sqlalchemy and oslo.db is making things a lot difficult to diagnose | 13:23 |
| Qiming | if we manage locks in python ... that is gonna be a reinvention of the wheel ... even if we managed to get it done right | 13:24 |
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| ruijie | okay Qiming, that makes sense | 13:26 |
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| Qiming | so .. back to the problem mentioned, I think we need to solve the problem in several steps | 13:27 |
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| ruijie | sir ? | 13:33 |
| Qiming | ? | 13:33 |
| ruijie | I thought you will talk about the stops | 13:33 |
| ruijie | :) | 13:33 |
| ruijie | steps | 13:34 |
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| ruijie | let's moving on? | 13:35 |
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| Qiming | sure | 13:36 |
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| ruijie | about the meetup, I talked with people, liyi and elynn are okay for 28th Oct. and xuefeng will not be available at that time | 13:37 |
| ruijie | I didn't cache xinhui yet :) will send her another e-mail to check the schedule | 13:38 |
| Qiming | great | 13:38 |
| ruijie | maybe we can share the window in the meeting, so that people who cannot make it can still join the online meeting | 13:39 |
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| Qiming | good idea | 13:40 |
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| Qiming | pls let me know if there are things I can help | 13:40 |
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| ruijie | sure Qiming :) will update the link on etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-queens-meetup | 13:41 |
| ruijie | next topic is yours Qiming | 13:43 |
| Qiming | what? | 13:43 |
| Qiming | summit prep? | 13:43 |
| ruijie | summit prep | 13:43 |
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| Qiming | my trip request was rejected | 13:43 |
| ruijie | yes Qiming .. we have a light talk? | 13:43 |
| ruijie | me too :) | 13:43 |
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| Qiming | I applied for trip sponor program but failed | 13:44 |
| ruijie | hahha | 13:44 |
| ruijie | me either :( | 13:44 |
| ruijie | not sure what happend this summit | 13:44 |
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| Qiming | trip to australia is expensive | 13:45 |
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| Qiming | some money has been allocated to PTG by the foundation I guess | 13:45 |
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| Qiming | elynn pinged me today, about his talk | 13:48 |
| Qiming | his installation of k8s was smooth | 13:48 |
| ruijie | with senlin? | 13:49 |
| Qiming | although he had to regenerate the server cert so that the floating IP of the master node can be used | 13:49 |
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| Qiming | yes | 13:49 |
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| ruijie | cool | 13:49 |
| Qiming | other than that, I am not aware of other topics acception | 13:51 |
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| ruijie | okay Qiming, we may end the meeting a little bit early | 13:52 |
| Qiming | okay | 13:52 |
| Qiming | thanks | 13:52 |
| ruijie | thanks for joining Qiming | 13:52 |
| ruijie | Goog night | 13:53 |
| Qiming | u2 | 13:53 |
| ruijie | #endmeeting | 13:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 13:53:15 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-10-17-13.00.html | 13:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-10-17-13.00.txt | 13:53 |
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| davidsha | #startmeeting network_common_flow_classifier | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 14:00:38 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is davidsha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'network_common_flow_classifier' | 14:00 |
| davidsha | Hey everyone! | 14:00 |
| bcafarel | howdy davidsha | 14:01 |
| davidsha | not too bad, you bcafarel? | 14:01 |
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| bcafarel | nice summer weather here, I'm not complaining :) | 14:02 |
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| davidsha | I'll wait 2 mins for the others then we'll start, It's nice weather here now as well, we had a Hurricane yesterday... | 14:04 |
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| davidsha | And meant to have another big storm on Friday. | 14:04 |
| bcafarel | yeah I saw that, looks like it was not a good day to visit Connemara | 14:05 |
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| davidsha | Yup, looking at the power lines that are down, the damage looks very spread out though | 14:06 |
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| davidsha | tmorin reedip: ping | 14:06 |
| tmorin | davidsha: hi everyone | 14:06 |
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| tmorin | o/ | 14:06 |
| davidsha | Hey | 14:07 |
| bcafarel | hi tmorin | 14:07 |
| tmorin | hi bcafarel ! | 14:07 |
| davidsha | We'll start now | 14:07 |
| igordc | hello all | 14:07 |
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| davidsha | Agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/CommonClassificationFramework#All_Meetings.27_Agendas | 14:07 |
| davidsha | #topic CCF v0 - Update | 14:08 |
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| davidsha | So The database migration patch looks ready | 14:08 |
| davidsha | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498471/ | 14:08 |
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| davidsha | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498471/ | 14:08 |
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| davidsha | Will I can merge the patch or will I ask a neutron core to have a look and have the final approval? | 14:09 |
| bcafarel | loosk so, and if needed it can be fixed/updated until there is an "official" v0 | 14:09 |
| igordc | +1 | 14:10 |
| davidsha | +1 for neutron core or me? | 14:11 |
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| igordc | the non-question :p | 14:11 |
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| igordc | so bcafarel | 14:11 |
| davidsha | Ah | 14:11 |
| davidsha | So I'll merge it then and we can modify going forward | 14:11 |
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| davidsha | I'm almost finished updating the follow up patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499571/ | 14:12 |
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| davidsha | I'm going to draft the functional tests separate and submit a patch to infra to enable functional testing and py35 | 14:13 |
| davidsha | tmorin: have you any tips? | 14:13 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: I haven't looked at this one for a while | 14:14 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: I assume I'd better wait for you to finish the udpate first | 14:15 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: are you asking me about functional testing specifically ? | 14:15 |
| davidsha | True, are there any questions? | 14:15 |
| davidsha | tmorin: yup functional test | 14:15 |
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| davidsha | We'll wait for next topic | 14:16 |
| tmorin | davidsha: I think that now that you can have in-repo zuulv3 test job definition, this is perhaps what you should target | 14:16 |
| tmorin | py35 is a standard job and should be enabled via a change in project-config | 14:16 |
| davidsha | tmorin: ack | 14:17 |
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| davidsha | If there are no questions we'll move on | 14:17 |
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| davidsha | #topic Functional tests | 14:17 |
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| davidsha | So we've kind of covered this, I should have waited till this topic before I brought it up. | 14:18 |
| bcafarel | any feedback on OVOs by iharchys? (sorry catching up) | 14:18 |
| davidsha | bcafarel: I haven't asked yet, wanted to have the patch updated first. | 14:19 |
| bcafarel | ack | 14:19 |
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| davidsha | It should be up within the next 2 hours, I just caught somethings that needed to be changed. | 14:20 |
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| davidsha | I'll add some unit tests for it now and have it up soon. | 14:21 |
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| davidsha | If there's nothing on functional tests I'll move this to open discussion. | 14:21 |
| tmorin | about OVO: to allow the push/pull RPC framework to work on objects defined outside neutron, I think that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512336/ will be needed | 14:21 |
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| tmorin | this is at least what I concluded when working on OVO for BGPVPN | 14:22 |
| davidsha | #topic Open discussion | 14:22 |
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| tmorin | there is one topic that I want to bring up related to DB, foreign keys and projects consuming CCF | 14:23 |
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| davidsha | tmorin: ok, sorry just looking at the patch | 14:23 |
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| davidsha | tmorin: go ahead, sorry | 14:24 |
| tmorin | ideally we would like consuming projects to have foreign keys to cg or classifications | 14:24 |
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| davidsha | tmorin: yes | 14:25 |
| davidsha | Well, it would cause an issue for DB migration though wouldn't it? | 14:25 |
| tmorin | but there is I think one obstacle: I haven't found anything that would guarantee that the DB migration scripts creating the CCF tables will be run *before* the DB migration script of the project consuming CCF which would have foreign keys to CCF tables | 14:25 |
| tmorin | davidsha: yes :) | 14:26 |
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| davidsha | tmorin: Ya, they would need to just be normal strings then. | 14:27 |
| igordc | tmorin: "DB migration scripts creating the CCF tables" - do you mean the initial migration? | 14:28 |
| davidsha | igordc: yes. | 14:28 |
| tmorin | yes | 14:29 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: yes, not having a foreign key is a solution, but it means we will possibly need more "book-keeping" code to preserve consistency | 14:30 |
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| igordc | tmorin: what if ccf was under core neutron? | 14:32 |
| davidsha | tmorin: True, you mean similar to how QoS does it with policies in the L2 - extension | 14:32 |
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| tmorin | igordc: that would be better I think | 14:32 |
| reedip_ | hi | 14:33 |
| tmorin | we've discussed this briefly in Denver in fact | 14:33 |
| bcafarel | moving the ccf in neutron itself? | 14:33 |
| davidsha | tmorin: outside of the live stream? | 14:33 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: yes, with FWaaS guys during lunch | 14:33 |
| davidsha | tmorin: Oh yes, you mentioned that. | 14:34 |
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| davidsha | bcafarel: yes, it was on the books, but it was later after it had been established and stable. | 14:34 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: well, we discussed how to check with consuming project whether we could delete a CCF resource, but we assumed we would have foreign keys | 14:35 |
| igordc | tmorin: is the migration sequence tighly coupled to which repo the code belongs to? | 14:35 |
| igordc | tmorin: atm | 14:35 |
| davidsha | tmorin: We could add the classification base table into core neutron... | 14:35 |
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| igordc | davidsha: the group* | 14:36 |
| davidsha | igordc: Was just about to correct it! | 14:37 |
| tmorin | igordc: each repo can define one (or more, but usually one) entry point for neutron-db-manage | 14:37 |
| tmorin | on installaion/upgrade neutron-db-manage needs to be called for each neutron-related project | 14:38 |
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| tmorin | neutron-db-manager --subproject foo | 14:38 |
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| tmorin | I don't know if there is a short cut to tell neutron-db-manage to do this for all subprojects | 14:38 |
| tmorin | I haven't investigated deeply yet, but I don't know how to control the order in which subprojects db migration is trigger for the various subprojects | 14:39 |
| tmorin | in devstack | 14:39 |
| davidsha | tmorin: Are you proposing ordering the set up to put classifier first? | 14:39 |
| tmorin | this would be a solution yes | 14:40 |
| igordc | if that was possible it would be nice | 14:40 |
| tmorin | but this is a topic/question that needs to be shared with the rest of neutron community | 14:40 |
| davidsha | tmorin: I don't think this will work, the QoS extension is in neutron's main repo, the neutron repo needs to go first doesn't it? | 14:40 |
| igordc | definitely | 14:40 |
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| tmorin | yes | 14:41 |
| davidsha | I think asking if we can add the classification group table to neutron's database migrations is probably the best solution. | 14:42 |
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| tmorin | since this table has FK to other CCF tables, this would apply to all tables I think | 14:43 |
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| davidsha | For the moment though, we'll keep going with the patch we have and we can change it when we're ready | 14:44 |
| davidsha | tmorin: I don't think classification groups do | 14:44 |
| davidsha | No foreign keys in classification groups: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498471/12/neutron_classifier/db/migration/alembic_migrations/versions/queens/expand/4e97d48da530_initial_ccf_database_.py | 14:44 |
| tmorin | davidsha: we need to look closely to have an idea if FK are needed, really-better or sugar-on-top | 14:44 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: ah, ok, indeed the FK with the other is in the other direction | 14:45 |
| davidsha | tmorin: ack, you think it's the best way to know if a CG or classification can be deleted though correct? | 14:46 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: I'm not 100% sure, but it seems hard to prevent races if we don't have FKs: we can have code to check if a consuming project using CG X, and if not then delete, but in the intermediate time between check&delete, the consuming project may be using it again | 14:48 |
| davidsha | tmorin: kk | 14:49 |
| tmorin | tmorin: but there may be a way to do without FKs that I haven't thought about | 14:49 |
| davidsha | I'm trying to think of a similar resource and how they do it. | 14:50 |
| davidsha | maybe QoS policies? | 14:50 |
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| tmorin | so the thinking was: have FKs to be raceproof, then add hooks so that on failure to delete CG X (because one of the consuming project is using CG X), ask all consuming projects whether and why they use CG X to provide the user with useful feedback on why the CG can't be deleted | 14:51 |
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| tmorin | davidsha: all QoS stuff is in neutron repo, so they're likely to use FKs | 14:51 |
| davidsha | True | 14:52 |
| tmorin | the issue is a foreign key to a resource defined outside neutron repo | 14:52 |
| davidsha | kk | 14:52 |
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| davidsha | I was going to suggest asking mlavalle to join but he isn't in the channel. | 14:55 |
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| davidsha | If we have Classification Groups in the core Neutron migration, does this avoid the race condition of neutron-db-manage? | 14:57 |
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| davidsha | We're going to have to wrap this up | 14:59 |
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| reedip_ | 30 seconds left ... | 14:59 |
| davidsha | Thanks everyone for attending! | 14:59 |
| igordc | bye all | 14:59 |
| davidsha | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| bcafarel | bye! | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 14:59:45 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/network_common_flow_classifier/2017/network_common_flow_classifier.2017-10-17-14.00.html | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/network_common_flow_classifier/2017/network_common_flow_classifier.2017-10-17-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 16:00:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| jlibosva | o/ | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:00 |
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| haleyb | hi | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | lots of hands, I love it | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from prev meeting (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| ihrachys | "jlibosva to expand grafana window for periodics" | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510934/ | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | still in review | 16:01 |
| jlibosva | afaik grafana now doesn't show anything | 16:02 |
| jlibosva | after zuul3 | 16:02 |
| jlibosva | so maybe we'll need to rebase | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | riiight. I believe haleyb was going to have a look at producing a new one, but there were no data in grafite? | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | yeah, haleyb mentioned it yesterday | 16:02 |
| haleyb | ihrachys: i don't see any, and have been busy with something else | 16:03 |
| jlibosva | I accidentally switched topic, sorry :) | 16:03 |
| haleyb | damn customers | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | :)) | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | lol | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, should someone take it over? | 16:03 |
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| haleyb | ihrachys: i will ping someone in infra today after my meetings, customer issue not hot any more | 16:04 |
| haleyb | unless someone else wants it :) | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | if you can find time for that, keep it. I am only concerned if you don't. | 16:05 |
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| ihrachys | *if you can't | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | #action haleyb to follow up with infra on missing grafite data for zuulv3 jobs | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, I guess your patch will need to wait for that to resolve | 16:06 |
| jlibosva | that's what I wanted to point out at the very beginning | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | ok, next item was "ihrachys to report bug for trunk scenario failure" | 16:07 |
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| ihrachys | there is this bug that I believe captures the trunk scenario failures: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1676966 | 16:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1676966 in neutron "TrunkManagerTestCase.test_connectivity failed to spawn ping" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | there is also https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1722644 but I believe it's different | 16:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1722644 in neutron "TrunkTest fails for OVS/DVR scenario job" [High,Confirmed] | 16:08 |
| jlibosva | the first one is for fullstack? | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | eh, sorry, nevermind, the first is in functional tests | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | ah, no functoinal | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | yeah. I think we had another one.. wait. | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: the second seems legit :) | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | then somebody opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1722967 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1722967 in neutron "init_handler argument error in ovs agent" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar) | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | oh yeah, I mixed things. the first is the legit one, and then there is that init_handler one | 16:10 |
| jlibosva | which solves the traces seen in the bug you reported | 16:10 |
| jlibosva | but then it still fails on SSH issue afaik | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | btw I haven't seen the error from the init_handler one in logs | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | does it happen all the time? | 16:10 |
| jlibosva | yes | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | hmm | 16:10 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: perhaps you need to check the other node? | 16:10 |
| jlibosva | oh, it should happen on both | 16:11 |
| jlibosva | it's there: http://logs.openstack.org/13/474213/7/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-scenario-ubuntu-xenial-nv/752030f/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz?level=ERROR#_Oct_10_17_35_10_787871 | 16:11 |
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| jlibosva | that's from the link in 1722644 | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | I will check again. but anyway, the connectivity failure is still a different one. we had this failure long before. | 16:11 |
| mlavalle | for 1722967, the fix is in the gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511428/ | 16:12 |
| jlibosva | so maybe we could just refresh the info on the 172644 with new traceback :) | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, right. but I haven't seen it in other logs from other runs. | 16:12 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: thanks for +W :) | 16:12 |
| mlavalle | thanks for fixing! | 16:12 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: anyways, it's fixed by now :) but as far as I can tell it was 100% reproducible as there were wrong parameter passed during initialization of ovs agent | 16:13 |
| jlibosva | was* | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | ok. but we still have connectivity issue on top correct? | 16:14 |
| jlibosva | I saw those, yes | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | if someone has cycles to have a look at scenario trunk failure, welcome. it's the last failure that keeps the job at 100% failure rate. | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | next item was "jlibosva to look how failing tests can not affect results" | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | I believe it's about exploring how to "disable" some fullstack tests | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | to make the job voting | 16:15 |
| jlibosva | I don't have any patch yet but I went through testtools code and found they have a way to set "expected failure" on result | 16:16 |
| jlibosva | but I think the easiest way would be to decorate test methods and in case they raise an exception, log it and swallow | 16:16 |
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| jlibosva | as expected failure means that if the test passes, the final result will be negative | 16:16 |
| jlibosva | and btw I haven't found any docs on how to set result object for testtools test runner anyways :) | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, so you mean, those test cases will always successful? | 16:18 |
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| jlibosva | right | 16:18 |
| jlibosva | or skipped | 16:19 |
| jlibosva | so we know if they failed or not | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, you mean the decorator will call self.skip? | 16:19 |
| jlibosva | correct | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | ok that probably makes sense | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | I guess first step is producing the decorator, and then we can go one by one and disable them. | 16:20 |
| jlibosva | I can craft a patch to try it out | 16:20 |
| jlibosva | yeah, we could disable one test case along with the decorator to see that it works :) | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to post a patch for decorator that skips test case results if they failed. | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | ok, sorry | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:23 | |
| ihrachys | since we can't use grafana to understand if there are gate issues, is anyone aware of critical gate failures that we may want to discuss? | 16:24 |
| haleyb | just that i broke networking-bgpvpn | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | the review queue doesn't seem too red, so probably fine | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, how so | 16:24 |
| jlibosva | there was this bug reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1724253 | 16:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1724253 in neutron "error in netns privsep wrapper: ImportError: No module named agent.linux.ip_lib" [Undecided,New] | 16:24 |
| jlibosva | it sounds severe :) | 16:25 |
| haleyb | the pyroute2 network namespace changes in neutron broke it, i'm working with tmorin to help get it fixed | 16:25 |
| slaweq | haleyb: and Heat gate but it's not related :) | 16:25 |
| jlibosva | sounds like that's the bug I just pasted | 16:25 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503280 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500109/ | 16:25 |
| haleyb | jlibosva: yes, that's the bug | 16:25 |
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| haleyb | that's all i had on that | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | hm, ok. which part of the script do they need for privsep? | 16:27 |
| haleyb | i'm not exactly sure, but tmorin mentioned the bgpvpn fullstack tests ran as root, and that's the issue | 16:28 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Scenarios | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Scenarios (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:30 | |
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| ihrachys | in addition to trunk, we had router migration tests that failed, but I think we fixed those with Anil's patches | 16:30 |
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| ihrachys | the late failed runs look like: http://logs.openstack.org/56/509156/8/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-scenario/32b6e45/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | test_floatingip scenarios fail rather often | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, mlavalle is it something that's on radar of l3 team? | 16:31 |
| haleyb | bug 1717302 is for that, swami was going to look at it | 16:31 |
| openstack | bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717302 | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | oh nice. I marked it with gate-failure tag | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | and there is another patchset here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512179/ | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | it's not exactly gate failure since it's non-voting but easier to track | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | not completely sure it is stricty related to this conversation | 16:32 |
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| ihrachys | probably not for scenarios, but worth a look | 16:33 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 16:33 |
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| ihrachys | ok, seems like we at least track all of failures. | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fullstack (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:34 | |
| ihrachys | except the idea of skipping some test cases, we also had this patch from jlibosva to isolate fullstack services in namespaces. | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/506722 | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | it's in conflict/wip | 16:35 |
| jlibosva | yeah, I suck | 16:35 |
| mlavalle | no, you don't... lol | 16:36 |
| jlibosva | :] | 16:36 |
| jlibosva | I need to continue working on that, I see a big benefit in it | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | if you do, then what do I do?.. | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | in other news, armax was looking at the trunk failure for fullstack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504186/ | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | seems like armax is swamped and may need a helping hand | 16:37 |
| slaweq | I can help with that if it would be fine | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, I think it would be fine. I asked him in gerrit just in case. | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | if he doesn't reply in next days nor posts new stuff, I think it's fair to take over. | 16:38 |
| slaweq | ok, I will take a look at this | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, thanks a lot! | 16:38 |
| jlibosva | slaweq++ | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | #action slaweq to take over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504186/ from armax | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | #topic Gate setup | 16:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate setup (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:39 | |
| slaweq | one more thing about fullstack | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | #undo | 16:39 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Gate setup | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, shoot | 16:39 |
| slaweq | I was talking with jlibosva yesterday and I want also to try to run execute with privsep instead of RWD | 16:39 |
| slaweq | just FYI :) | 16:39 |
| mlavalle | I also have a question | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | we talked about that in one of previous meetings | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | it's related to one bug | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | that I'm just searching for :) | 16:40 |
| slaweq | thx jlibosva - I don't have it right now | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1721796 | 16:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721796 in neutron "wait_until_true is not rootwrap daemon friendly" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar) | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | and | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1654287 | 16:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1654287 in oslo.rootwrap "rootwrap daemon may return output of previous command" [Critical,New] | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, that's fine, though wasn't it the idea of privsep to separate privileges (meaning, use different caps per external call?) | 16:40 |
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| jlibosva | if that would be used in tests executor only, does it matter? | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | I thought you meant making execute() somehow grab all caps via privsep and run the command with effective root | 16:42 |
| slaweq | but as I looked quickly today some other projects are doing something like that with privsep (e.g. os-brick) | 16:42 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: I don't know yet how exactly should it be done | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | does it mean we will get rid of RWD completely? | 16:43 |
| slaweq | I don't know for now | 16:43 |
| jlibosva | I was thinking we should use it just to avoid using rwd in wait_until_true | 16:43 |
| jlibosva | so in fullstack, whenever we're waiting for some resource to be ready | 16:44 |
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| jlibosva | which is like a whitebox test thing that is not provided via API | 16:44 |
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| ihrachys | ok. though it sounds like an uphill battle | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | what happened to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510161/ ? | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | wouldn't it tackle the issue for fullstack? | 16:46 |
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| jlibosva | hard to say, there are good points about "what if the predicate gets stuck" | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | we have per test case timeout | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | using eventlet? :) | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | but then, we are back to the original problem? | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | that some state is in buffer | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | on relevant note, anyone talked to oslo folks? | 16:48 |
| jlibosva | I just had an idea | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | about the rootwrap behavior | 16:48 |
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| jlibosva | It looks like nobody did | 16:49 |
| jlibosva | or maybe dalvarez | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | I wonder if it's possible to flush the state somehow before each call to RWD | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | I will follow up with oslo | 16:50 |
| jlibosva | IIRC he attempted to do that in rwd | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to talk to oslo folks about RWD garbage data in the socket on call interrupted | 16:50 |
| jlibosva | ah, he probably didn't send a patch to gerrit | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | I will reach out to him too | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | anything else for fullstack? | 16:51 |
| mlavalle | let's move on | 16:52 |
| mlavalle | time | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | #topic Gate setup | 16:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate setup (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:52 | |
| ihrachys | I had a question on what's next steps for legacy- zuulv3 jobs | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | do we stick to those for the time being, or should we start moving them to neutron repo/transform into ansible | 16:53 |
| mlavalle | I'd rather start doing it now | 16:53 |
| mlavalle | at least one by one | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | do we have someone with spare cycles to start exploring that? | 16:53 |
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| mlavalle | I was going to look at it myself | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | I guess once first job is cleared, it should be easier to do next | 16:54 |
| mlavalle | slowly | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle to explore how to move legacy jobs to new style | 16:54 |
| mlavalle | since it doesn't seem we are under pressure right now | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | yeah, that's good. enough balls to juggle already | 16:54 |
| haleyb | yeah, once one patch works can split it up since should be similar | 16:54 |
| mlavalle | yeah, once we do one, the rest should be easy | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | another thing I had in mind is the dvr-ha job that never became voting | 16:55 |
| mlavalle | but remember, I'll do it slowly | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, is it fair to say that we need fresh grafana data before we assess if the job is ready for primetime? | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | and also with the zuulv3 deal, I suspect we'll need to first move it to new style, only then flip the switch | 16:56 |
| haleyb | ihrachys: yes, and i'd assume each job change would require a grafana change, and then some waiting to look at falire rates | 16:56 |
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| mlavalle | let's do it independently of the job changes | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, not sure infra would love to give us path forward without first moving to new style | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | ahhhh, ok | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | but we'll see | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | another thing to note is we are stuck at tempest plugin split. | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | the last patch that was going to introduce new jobs to the tempest plugin repo was: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507038/ | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | and it needs zuulv3 refinement | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | the concern here is that the longer it takes to switch to test classes from the plugin, the more we diverge from the base that is in-tree | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | since we continue landing new tests | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | gotta revisit it quick and see if Chandan needs help | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | the sync later will be a PITA | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | we are sadly out of time | 16:59 |
| haleyb | we also had a plan to make the multinode job the default and voting, which will have to wait i guess | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | but I will sync with Chandan | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | yeah, lots of initiatives stalled | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | that's why it's important to move forward with zuulv3 migration, it's not just for the love of ansible | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | thanks everyone | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 17:00:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-10-17-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-10-17-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 17:00 |
| jlibosva | thanks, bye | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-10-17-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| slaweq | thx, bye | 17:00 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 18:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, SamYaple | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 18:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:00 |
| SamYaple | o/ | 18:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
| edmondsw | o/ | 18:00 |
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| kmalloc | zzzzz | 18:01 |
| rodrigods | o/ | 18:01 |
| spilla | o/ | 18:01 |
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| lbragstad | #topic announcements | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
| lbragstad | #info queens-1 is this week | 18:03 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | as a result - i'll be looking to schedule a retrospective within the next two weeks to recap queens-1 | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | i'm thinking we'll just hold it during office hours since folks are used to that time | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | #info specification proposal freeze is this week | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | if there is a spec you're working on that hasn't made it to review yet, be sure to at least push it by the end of the week | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | remember this is only proposal freeze | 18:04 |
| samueldmq | o/ | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | specification freeze will be queens-2 | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | we also have a bunch of trello cards coming due this week | 18:05 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: do we have any proposals we are expecting that haven't appeared yet? | 18:05 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: is ther eanything on the top of your head we had planned and did not propose a spec for yet? | 18:05 |
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| samueldmq | hmm .. .maybe the flask stuff | 18:05 |
| hrybacki | samueldmq +1 | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | hrybacki: samueldmq not that i know of | 18:05 |
| * samueldmq nods | 18:06 | |
| lbragstad | as far as i know, everything we discussed at the ptg has been recorded in trello | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | but... | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | we do need to make those changes consistent with the keystone-specs repository | 18:06 |
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| lbragstad | (there are things we've committed to in trello that don't reflect that status in our specs repo) | 18:07 |
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| lbragstad | we have a bunch of things due this week, according to the dates we set in trello | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/c/b5ovuvqG/1-project-tags | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | the project tags implementation is looking good, imo | 18:08 |
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| lbragstad | i feel like we can get the server bits merged by queens-1, and all the client bits by queens-2 | 18:09 |
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| gagehugo | sure | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | if you have spare review cycles - reviewing the project tags work would be awesome | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/c/25sBHXcM/14-write-up-a-specification-for-json-web-tokens | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | thanks cmurphy for writing up the spec for ^ | 18:10 |
| cmurphy | reviews appreciated for that too | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | i think that looks really good | 18:10 |
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| lbragstad | it'd be awesome to get that targeted for this release, but bandwidth is going to be hard | 18:11 |
| gagehugo | yeah that's on my todo reading list | 18:11 |
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| lbragstad | either way - the spec does a great job of capturing the information and it should be an easy reproposal | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/c/XTkAiqaB/21-remove-v20-apis | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | the last thing needed for ^ is a patch to tempest | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | the v2.0 documentation removal is being tracked in #link https://trello.com/c/5WCMxrLg/12-docs-goals-organization | 18:12 |
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| lbragstad | but the removal card should be in Done by EOW so long as #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506751/ merges | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/c/Z6pUPEJu/3-oslopolicy-deprecation is getting close - i spent more time than i expected on that last week | 18:13 |
| cmurphy | i also noticed the keystoneclient tests need to be updated after the v2 removal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512509/ | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: aha - i assume there is more cleanup in ksc, too? | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | (cleaning up v2.0 paths, etc...) | 18:14 |
| cmurphy | probably | 18:15 |
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| lbragstad | when should we focus on removing those bits? | 18:15 |
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| gagehugo | that would make removing keystoneclient.session easier | 18:15 |
| gagehugo | removing the v2 bits | 18:15 |
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| lbragstad | immediately? or should we allow for a grace period? | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | (if someone still wants to use v2.0 should we force them to use an older client?) | 18:16 |
| cmurphy | actually i don't think it makes sense to remove that from ksc right away | 18:17 |
| cmurphy | people are more likely to update their clients than their services | 18:17 |
| knikolla | ++ | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | yeah... | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | should we table v2.0 removal from ksc and ksa for Rocky then? | 18:17 |
| cmurphy | +1 | 18:19 |
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| lbragstad | ok - i'll create a card in backlog | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to create a trello card in backlog to slate v2.0 removal paths from ksa and ksc for Rocky | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/c/ZjsNk84y/4-oslopolicy-scope | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | this one is iffy | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | i'm going to be working on it today/tonight | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | it's pretty straight forward - but it needs reviews | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | I'm hoping to get it landed in oslo by queens-1 or very shortly after | 18:20 |
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| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/c/XzM8IXy4/10-cross-project-policy-work | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | this isn't necessarily due this week - but using it as a check point | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | lots of patches are in review | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | #link https://www.lbragstad.com/policy-burndown/ | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | only a few projects haven't started | 18:22 |
| hrybacki | wonderful to see more repos in progress than not | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i was pretty stoked to see us get through 50% | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | for folks interested in that - the reviews are super helpful | 18:23 |
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| lbragstad | ok - that's all i had for trello status | 18:23 |
| lbragstad | is there anything i missed that folks want to mention? | 18:23 |
| lbragstad | (with regard to what you're working on?) | 18:24 |
| gagehugo | can you filter cards by due dates? | 18:24 |
| cmurphy | it's not committed to in the trello board but i reproposed the app creds spec to queens just to get it in the queue | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: nice - i'll put that in progress | 18:25 |
| hrybacki | gagehugo: you can filter by labels | 18:25 |
| hrybacki | so we could make milestone labels and that would allow you to filter properly | 18:25 |
| gagehugo | ah ok | 18:26 |
| gagehugo | was just curious | 18:26 |
| hrybacki | ohhh you can actually. on the Trello menu, click 'Filter cards' and on the bottom you can pick some premade filters for date ranges | 18:26 |
| lbragstad | nice! | 18:26 |
| hrybacki | that's a new feature to me :) | 18:26 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/b/5F0h9Hoe/keystone?menu=filter&filter=due:month | 18:26 |
| lbragstad | #topic IAM session scheduling | 18:27 |
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| lbragstad | #https://beta.doodle.com/poll/ntkpzgmcv3k6v5qu | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | #link https://beta.doodle.com/poll/ntkpzgmcv3k6v5qu | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | besure to fill that out if you plan to attend | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | i'll propose the session soon - but it will be next week sometime | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | i still haven't heard from zaneb | 18:28 |
| * samueldmq will make sure to review project-tags again. and jwt | 18:28 | |
| lbragstad | so - be on the lookout of that if that's something you want to participate in | 18:29 |
| lbragstad | #topic openstack/loci CI and images | 18:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "openstack/loci CI and images (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:29 | |
| lbragstad | SamYaple: o/ | 18:29 |
| SamYaple | o/ | 18:29 |
| SamYaple | hey all. so a few months back i popped in talking about possibly putting dockerfiles in project repos | 18:30 |
| SamYaple | we scraped that idea and went with a new project called LOCI | 18:30 |
| SamYaple | great success has been made there, and with zuulv3 we now push directly to dockerhub on each commit to openstack/loci | 18:30 |
| SamYaple | our next step is to push images when projects commit themselves | 18:30 |
| SamYaple | we have done this with cinder already | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512398/ | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | SamYaple: so you'll bake a new image with each commit to keystone? | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | and push! | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | yes | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | #link https://github.com/openstack/loci | 18:31 |
| SamYaple | now, keystone doesnt actually need to do anything here, this is a request from infra that we talk with all the projects before we add a job to thier post pipeline | 18:32 |
| SamYaple | but because its in the post pipeline, it wont affect keystone gating in anyway | 18:32 |
| SamYaple | so this is more of a social question than a technical one, is keystone ok with a loci job in the post pipeline? | 18:32 |
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| lbragstad | i don't have an issue with it - the post pipeline seems like the appropriate place for something like this | 18:33 |
| SamYaple | does anyone have any questions or concerns about this? | 18:33 |
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| samueldmq | seems awesome | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | SamYaple: how is keystone setup in the container? | 18:34 |
| samueldmq | what's the ultimate goal of this? | 18:34 |
| SamYaple | samueldmq: better CICD | 18:34 |
| SamYaple | lbragstad: pip installed | 18:34 |
| samueldmq | run devstack in containers ? and then run the tests? | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | running with Apache? | 18:35 |
| SamYaple | lbragstad: you can optionally install apache2 | 18:35 |
| SamYaple | we actually use bindep to select profiles | 18:35 |
| samueldmq | like, create an image of keystoen each time dependencies change. ci can be: install lastest image (with deps preinstalled), just put the code in | 18:35 |
| samueldmq | and run the tests | 18:35 |
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| SamYaple | samueldmq: we were just talking about that in the channel. i would love to get devstack using loci images, optionally, | 18:36 |
| SamYaple | there is a time delay between merge and post job that might make it bad for gates, but it should be fine for general dev | 18:36 |
| lbragstad | sounds interesting | 18:37 |
| knikolla | that sounds very cool | 18:38 |
| cmurphy | where does it publish to? tarballs.o.o? | 18:38 |
| SamYaple | lbragstad: we only install uwsgi by default, but `docker build https://github.com/openstack/loci.git --build-arg PROJECT=keystone --build-arg PROFILES="apache"` | 18:38 |
| SamYaple | cmurphy: dockerhub | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | SamYaple: aha - nice | 18:38 |
| cmurphy | SamYaple: so what if dockerhub is down? does that delay the gate job? | 18:38 |
| SamYaple | we actually had to get some new syntax into bindep to get this to work but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512063/3/bindep.txt | 18:38 |
| SamYaple | cmurphy: not at all. this is post pipeline | 18:39 |
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| cmurphy | okay, no objections from me :) | 18:39 |
| SamYaple | technically the post job can fail and we wont push for that commit, so there is a small risk of not pushing, same with not publishing tarballs | 18:39 |
| lbragstad | so you only push what you bless through testing | 18:40 |
| SamYaple | unfortunately, zuulv3 doesnt have that part figured out yet | 18:40 |
| SamYaple | so no matter what we test, what we push is "build only" | 18:40 |
| lbragstad | ah | 18:40 |
| SamYaple | once zuulv3 lets us share artifacts across jobs then testing and pushing can work | 18:40 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i'm good with this then | 18:41 |
| lbragstad | let us know if you need signoff on a commit | 18:41 |
| SamYaple | ok i will submit the patch to project-config and ask for a signoff in the channel | 18:41 |
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| lbragstad | awesome - thanks SamYaple | 18:41 |
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| SamYaple | thanks all! and if you ahve more questions, #openstack-loci | 18:41 |
| lbragstad | will do! | 18:41 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:42 | |
| lbragstad | floor is open | 18:42 |
| lbragstad | gentle reminder that office hours will be happening today | 18:42 |
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| lbragstad | we can focus on bugs or use the time to crush some spec reviews together | 18:43 |
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| lbragstad | if there is nothing else - we can break for a bit before office-hours | 18:45 |
| lbragstad | thanks for coming! | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 18:46:15 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-17-18.00.html | 18:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-17-18.00.txt | 18:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-17-18.00.log.html | 18:46 |
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| clarkb | hello infra | 18:59 |
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| fungi | mmminfra | 18:59 |
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| cmurphy | o/ | 18:59 |
| SamYaple | o/ | 18:59 |
| tobiash | o/ | 18:59 |
| zaneb | lbragstad: done | 18:59 |
| dmsimard | \o | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 19:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:00 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 19:00 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:00 |
| pabelanger | hello | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| clarkb | TC election is happening now. Don't forget to vote | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | And late Sunday we put zuulv3 back into production (where it has been since) | 19:02 |
| pabelanger | \o/ | 19:02 |
| AJaeger | and running nicely! | 19:02 |
| dmsimard | It went better than the first time :D | 19:02 |
| dmsimard | Props to all the hard work | 19:03 |
| fungi | yes, it's running amazingly! | 19:03 |
| dmsimard | Thanks for beta testing zuul v3 so we don't run into that kind of problem when we roll it out for RDO :D | 19:03 |
| clarkb | yup much much happier this time around | 19:04 |
| clarkb | there weren't any actions from last meeting | 19:05 |
| clarkb | and I don't think there are any specs to talk about so skipping ahead | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:06 | |
| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zuul v3 (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:06 | |
| clarkb | there were a couple items we wanted totalk about post productioning. | 19:06 |
| clarkb | The first is whether or not we should be backing up secret keys for v3 secrets | 19:06 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ^ you added this one to the agenda | 19:07 |
| clarkb | basically people are wodnering what the bus factor of their secrets in zuul is | 19:07 |
| pabelanger | seems like a good idea | 19:07 |
| clarkb | infra roots have the ability to decrypt these secrets so that helps bus factor but if we lose the private keys we won't be able to decrypt the secrets anymore | 19:07 |
| pabelanger | would that be just adding it to bup? | 19:08 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: ya I'm leaning towards backing them up simply because it will help avoid functionality outages if we lose them for some reason (everyone will have to rekey) | 19:08 |
| tobiash | I experimented a bit about deriving them from a master key (because I want to avoid a backup) | 19:08 |
| jeblair | sorry i'm late | 19:08 |
| jeblair | yeah. we could tell folks that if we lose the server, they'll need to update their secrets. | 19:09 |
| ianw | it is an additional "data at rest" exposure ... but there's already interesting stuff "at rest" in there anyway? | 19:09 |
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| jeblair | however, i think that looks kind of bad, so i lean toward us backing them up | 19:10 |
| persia | Do I understand correctly that the data that is being considered for backup has already been posted to gerrit reviews when added (in encrypted form)? If so, I would argue backing it up is no less secure. | 19:10 |
| jeblair | ianw: that's true | 19:10 |
| fungi | i suppose that puts infra in the (unfortunate?) position of being the keeper of everyone else's keys, in case they forget them? | 19:10 |
| clarkb | persia: its the secret keys needed to decrypt the data that has already been put in git | 19:10 |
| SamYaple | persia: no this would be the secret keys to decret that data | 19:10 |
| jeblair | tobiash: i really like that idea -- if it's just one key, that opens up more options (offline storage, etc) | 19:10 |
| clarkb | fungi: its already that way, zuul generates the keys not the user aiui | 19:10 |
| jeblair | fungi: yes; we sort of already are though. because of what clarkb says | 19:10 |
| pabelanger | persia: no, this data is just stored on HDD of zuulv3.o.o currently | 19:11 |
| jeblair | persia: so it's an additional exposure. currently the secret keys are only on the zuul server; they would additionally be in our backups | 19:11 |
| tobiash | I have a script which takes a private key an main.yaml and generates the keys for every repo | 19:11 |
| fungi | clarkb: right, i mean you have a team responsible for access to some service, they give us an encrypted copy of that, then they have a lot of team turn-over and one day they discover they need to make some adjustments to the service but no longer know the (plaintext) password/whatever | 19:11 |
| persia | Given that architecture, I think it should be backed up, as one HDD is an unreliable store. Ideally, it is encrypted for backup, with the decryption keys more widely known (maybe infra-root private keys stored on private infra?) | 19:12 |
| pabelanger | what about moving zuul keys in to hiera, and having ansible manage them? Like any other secret we add to a server | 19:12 |
| tobiash | I can share it tomorrow if there is interest | 19:12 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: we need a new key for every project. | 19:12 |
| fungi | they'll end up asking the infra team to decrypt our copy and provide it to someone because they didn't keep track of it themselves well enough | 19:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: thats a good point | 19:12 |
| clarkb | it might be worth backing up the keys just to avoid zuul "outages" if we lose them forcing everyone to reencrypt but at the same time ask teams ot have some other method of data retention for their own purposes? | 19:13 |
| fungi | i don't know that's necessarily something we can (or want to?) avoid | 19:13 |
| jeblair | tobiash: yeah, if you could post that, that'd be great; let's take a look at it and see if we should redesign the key generation in zuul for that. | 19:13 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: yah, i can also see that being a bottleneck for adding new projects | 19:13 |
| dmsimard | fungi mentions turn over which is an interesting bit -- if we revoke an infra-root access, do we have to rotate the key used to decrypt secrets ? How does that work ? | 19:13 |
| fungi | but we may still want to remind people very plainly in documentation that we're not taking on the responsibility of being the long-term storage for their account credentials in case they lose them | 19:13 |
| jeblair | clarkb, fungi: yes, as a matter of policy, i don't think we should decrypt anything for folks. we don't really have a good trust path. i think we should mostly focus on how this affects our service. i mostly don't want egg on our faces. :) | 19:14 |
| persia | For mass outages, decrypting from backup is nice. For individual outages, probably best to advise the project to rekey (unless they have a really good reason not to do so), to reduce the number of times infra folk have to see project secret keys. | 19:14 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: only if we decide we don't trust the person any more. that hasn't happened yet. | 19:14 |
| fungi | we just happen to have copies so their jobs can use them | 19:14 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: however, we *do* want to be able to do key rotation eventually. zuulv3 doesn't support that yet. | 19:14 |
| pabelanger | dmsimard: true, but we have that problem today with our cloud credentials too | 19:14 |
| dmsimard | jeblair: fair enough | 19:14 |
| ianw | dmsimard: i don't think we've rotated all the cloud keys etc on removal, but i don't think anyone has left in circumstances they're considered compromised | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | ok how about we make the assertion in documentation thta fungi suggests. Then also backup the keys so that we don't break people's jobs if we derp on our end | 19:15 |
| ianw | ++ and investigate the single key thing from tobiash | 19:15 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ++. then let's look at tobiash's idea and see if we want to change how we do this later. | 19:15 |
| fungi | persia: yes, i agree. mostly wanting to avoid the situation where they'velocked themselves out of some account and want us to help them recover from that because we have a copy of the credentials they've forgotten | 19:15 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 19:15 |
| persia | fungi: I fully support your recommendations for documentation :) | 19:16 |
| SamYaple | i only brought it up for the hit-by-a-bus scenario | 19:16 |
| clarkb | #agreed Document that we are not serving as backups for $project secrets. Backup the keys so that breakage on infra end doesn't force everyone to reencrypt their secrets. | 19:16 |
| clarkb | if anyone disagrees with ^ let me know and I can undo | 19:16 |
| persia | If nothing else, I suspect infra-root has no reliable way to identify whether a key requestor represents an identity that should be permitted the key. | 19:16 |
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| jeblair | persia: yep, that's a substantial blocker | 19:17 |
| ianw | persia: if they can't keep the key, i bet they can't keep a gpg key or something to authenticate anyway :) | 19:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ++ | 19:17 |
| persia | Yes, hence the documentation should assert that infra-root *will not* provide secret keys to others, rather than just that this isn't the purpose of the backup. | 19:17 |
| fungi | SamYaple: yes, if your project lead is hit by a bus and is the only one who knew the password, that's bad (and not something you should expect us to protect you from) | 19:17 |
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| SamYaple | fungi: no argument here. it was a question of if we could rely on infra for that. the answer is "no". perfectly acceptable :) | 19:18 |
| persia | If a project is concerned about bus-factor, presumably the project lead can (securely) transmit the secret to a delegate. Worst case, project rekeys. | 19:18 |
| pabelanger | not to derail, but which password are we talking about? I don't think our keys support that today, right? | 19:19 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: the "password" that a user has encrypted as a secret | 19:19 |
| fungi | i'll leave myself a todo to draft up a blurb for the openstack-specific job documentation we have | 19:19 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: Ah, thank you | 19:20 |
| clarkb | fungi: thanks | 19:20 |
| ianw | i can look at the backups if nobody else wants too | 19:20 |
| clarkb | the other topic that fungi brought up was how safe is it to modify scripts that v2 was using so that they function with v3 | 19:20 |
| fungi | pabelanger: basically discouraging abusing people relying on zuul as an encrypted safe for their service credentials in case they forget them later (because we can't safely be that) | 19:20 |
| jeblair | ianw: thanks | 19:20 |
| clarkb | ianw: thanks, I think that would be helpful | 19:20 |
| ianw | ok, will do | 19:21 |
| pabelanger | fungi: yah, I personally don't want to know what that data is :) | 19:21 |
| clarkb | #action fungi write up docs for secret backup policy | 19:21 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb | 19:21 |
| clarkb | #action ianw look into backing up zuul secrets | 19:21 |
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| jeblair | i think there's 2 related questions: | 19:21 |
| jeblair | 1) when do we demolish the v2 servers | 19:21 |
| jeblair | 2) when do we demolish the v2 config | 19:21 |
| fungi | i think 2 happens before 1 | 19:22 |
| fungi | because 2 is easier to undo (it's "just" a matter of git reverts) | 19:22 |
| fungi | once we 1, going back is _much_ harder | 19:22 |
| clarkb | if we want ot be ultra conservative we could say after the feedback session in sydney just in cse there is some really important thing brought up | 19:23 |
| fungi | (it's "just" a matter of rebuilding a bunch of servers) | 19:23 |
| clarkb | but ya worst case we just rebuild servers and git revert | 19:23 |
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| jeblair | i think the configs have diverged so much that we can't really entertain the idea of supporting both any more | 19:23 |
| ianw | i was finding the v2 config helpful as a comparison during initial transition, but not so much now | 19:23 |
| clarkb | ianw: ya that was useful for the thing funig was debugging today too | 19:23 |
| clarkb | but git log -p is a hammer to get that data back | 19:24 |
| pabelanger | we also have new servers to build, like migrating nodepool-builders to python3 | 19:24 |
| jeblair | so honestly, i lean toward saying keep the servers up until next week, but probably within a few days, declare the config dead and remove it. (it's in the git history for reference) | 19:24 |
| fungi | do we really expect that if we're still on v3 by the time the forum rolls around (seems likely this time) then is there anything anyone is likely to say there to cause us to go back to v2? | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | fungi: no | 19:24 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: ++ | 19:24 |
| jeblair | i personally think we passed that point yesterday :) | 19:24 |
| fungi | clarkb: yes, i can easily git checkout an older commit ;) | 19:24 |
| AJaeger | ;) | 19:24 |
| fungi | if a similar question arises | 19:24 |
| jeblair | but am willing to entertain the idea that something catastrophic could still happen this week that would warrant us going back | 19:25 |
| pabelanger | Yah, I'd be shocked if we decided to rollback now | 19:25 |
| dmsimard | fungi: unless someone force pushes :P | 19:25 |
| ianw | jeblair's plan ++ | 19:25 |
| pabelanger | like we had a large gap in testing | 19:25 |
| fungi | dmsimard: yeah, let's not (is my answer to that) | 19:25 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya that is reasonable. We should probably send an email with those dteails to the dev list with a strong "speak up now" message if someonebelieves we need to revert | 19:26 |
| pabelanger | next week also works well for me, as I am traveling to conference for next 3 days | 19:26 |
| fungi | oh, so here's one potential impact... is jjb still testing against our project-config data? | 19:26 |
| jeblair | fungi: you okay cutting off our retreat (or at least making it really difficult) next week? | 19:26 |
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| clarkb | mostly concerned that there seemed to be more fuming than communication the last time around so want to be careful to give everyone a chance to speak up | 19:26 |
| AJaeger | fungi: no, not anymore | 19:27 |
| dmsimard | The only thing I could see considering a rollback could be a security concern of sorts (like a nodepool or executor exploit), but it'd be hard to believe it could not be mitigated quickly or we shut things down temporarily while we address the issue | 19:27 |
| fungi | jeblair: yes, i'm full steam ahead | 19:27 |
| AJaeger | fungi: jjb testing was not enabled with v3. | 19:27 |
| AJaeger | fungi: I can make the freeze test from non-voting to voting | 19:27 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: shouldn't there be a legacy job? | 19:27 |
| fungi | AJaeger: oh, they're not running jobs on jjb changes any longer? | 19:27 |
| AJaeger | AFAIK those don't run currently - but we should be able to do that... | 19:27 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: yah, I haven't heard of any fuming this time around | 19:28 |
| AJaeger | I can patch - either freeze them or gate on jjb. What's the preference? | 19:28 |
| fungi | anyway, the jjb team may want to copy a representative sample of configuration from a pre-deletion point in the project-config history, for use in their testing (assuming they still rely on it) | 19:28 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: we're talking about jobs that run on the jjb repo, right? | 19:29 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: no, I talk about jobs running on project-config/jenkins/ | 19:29 |
| * fungi is specifically talking about jobs running against changes to the openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder repo | 19:30 | |
| AJaeger | then ignore me... | 19:30 |
| jeblair | fungi: so to the original question, i think maybe avoiding changing the jenkins scripts (at least in an incompatible way) until week would be good? | 19:30 |
| jeblair | fungi: though of course, those jobs really just need to be replaced anyway... so maybe the v3 fix should be to copy the script into a role and iterate from there or something... | 19:31 |
| AJaeger | just checked, jenkins-job-builder has jobs running - python-jobs basically | 19:31 |
| fungi | they did, at least at one point, test against a copy of our configuration to avoid breaking us, which if we're past the point of no return on v3 is no longer necessary for us but deleting those files could disrupt their jobs if they're still doing it that way | 19:31 |
| fungi | but sounds like maybe they stopped after we pinned to an old release? | 19:31 |
| clarkb | jeblair: the copy idea makes sense to me | 19:32 |
| clarkb | jeblair: as that sounds like a prereq to deleting everything anyways | 19:32 |
| AJaeger | fungi: I don't see such a job currently for the jjb repo | 19:32 |
| fungi | yeah, i don't see the old validation jobs running against jjb changes in the v3 config | 19:32 |
| fungi | so this is probably a moot point | 19:33 |
| jeblair | clarkb: indeed | 19:33 |
| pabelanger | yah, we could start moving jenkins scripts directly into playbooks, that worked well when then started migrating them to ansible | 19:34 |
| clarkb | So keep old servers and config around for another week. Migrate scripts used from jenkins/scripts into playbooks. Send email now telling people we plan to completely delete v2 (as much as you can with git) next week and to speak up now with concerns? | 19:34 |
| jeblair | ++ | 19:35 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/378046 | 19:35 |
| fungi | that's when they were removed, looks like | 19:35 |
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| pabelanger | so, would we be moving them in to ozj? And if so, it would make iterating on them much easier | 19:35 |
| clarkb | #agreed Keep old servers and config around for another week. Migrate scripts used from jenkins/scripts into playbooks. Send email now telling people we plan to completely delete v2 (as much as you can with git) next week and to speak up now with concerns. | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | as long as they are not needed in trusted context | 19:36 |
| clarkb | again let me know if you don't agree with ^ :) | 19:36 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: could we make a tag before deletion ? | 19:36 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: like jenkins-eol or something | 19:36 |
| clarkb | jeblair: do you want to send the its done/dead Jim email? | 19:36 |
| dmsimard | to make things easier if we want to look for it. | 19:36 |
| jeblair | heh, have we ever tagged project-config? | 19:36 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I don't think so, but I suppose we can, we can also tag it at any point in the future too | 19:37 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: sure i'll send it, but i won't be able to say "It's dead, Jim." :( | 19:37 |
| dmsimard | a tag is just a friendly label on a commit sha1 | 19:37 |
| dmsimard | and easier to find :) | 19:37 |
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| jeblair | i'm okay having our first-even tag on project-config | 19:38 |
| clarkb | ya makes diffing easier to have a friendly name | 19:38 |
| jeblair | first ever even | 19:38 |
| clarkb | git diff HEAD..jenkins-eol | 19:38 |
| * dmsimard nods | 19:38 | |
| dmsimard | Switching from laptop to phone for a bit, will follow along. | 19:39 |
| fungi | farewell-jenkins | 19:39 |
| pabelanger | +1 | 19:39 |
| jeblair | like 'farewell sydney monorail' | 19:40 |
| fungi | heh | 19:40 |
| clarkb | ok sounds like we have a plan. Any other v3 related items? | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | we are running out of time and there are some other things on the agenda | 19:40 |
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| jeblair | ++ | 19:41 |
| clarkb | ok moving on | 19:41 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:41 | |
| clarkb | #topic Ansible swap setup | 19:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ansible swap setup (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:41 | |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499467/ | 19:41 |
| clarkb | ianw: ^ this is yours, are you just looking for reviews? | 19:41 |
| ianw | well i was thinking, why does only d-g want swap? | 19:42 |
| ianw | is it something we should move to the base job, behind a variable flag? | 19:42 |
| ianw | is that a thing we are doing? | 19:42 |
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| ianw | we sort of have one flag in the "generate ara on failure" atm? | 19:42 |
| jeblair | i think we should make it a role in one of the zuul*-jobs repos, but not put it in the base job | 19:42 |
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| pabelanger | we'll, I've wanted to use it for launch-node.py too | 19:43 |
| jeblair | ianw: that flag isn't meant to be user-serviceable | 19:43 |
| jeblair | i don't think our base jobs should end up being driven by variables; i think we should structure playbooks to use appropriate roles | 19:43 |
| pabelanger | +1 | 19:44 |
| jeblair | (in other words, try to keep things more like ansible and less like zuul magic) | 19:44 |
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| * fungi agrees | 19:44 | |
| ianw | ok, the only thing was didn't want people missing it, and causing skew in jobs running with and without it | 19:44 |
| dmsimard | I kind of want to put it in the base job | 19:45 |
| dmsimard | Because it otherwise means that the config is not the same for all jobs | 19:45 |
| jeblair | i can see how swap is certainly in a gery area. | 19:45 |
| dmsimard | Depending on the provider | 19:45 |
| fungi | i think people should only add it to jobs that need it | 19:45 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya for swap I think ideal is jobs never swap | 19:45 |
| fungi | since swap setup will add some time and i/o | 19:45 |
| clarkb | so we only opt jobs into it if they need it | 19:45 |
| dmsimard | Fair, it can be opt in | 19:46 |
| ianw | so move it out of d-g into o-z-j seems like the plan ... and then ensure that d-g is turning it on | 19:46 |
| clarkb | ianw: yup | 19:46 |
| fungi | yes | 19:46 |
| fungi | sgtm | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | +1 | 19:46 |
| ianw | alright, will do /eot | 19:47 |
| clarkb | #topic Unbound setup | 19:47 |
| jeblair | well | 19:47 |
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| clarkb | oh do I need to undo? | 19:47 |
| jeblair | pls | 19:47 |
| clarkb | #undo | 19:47 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Unbound setup | 19:47 |
| jeblair | there's a change to move the v3-native devstack job into the devstack repo | 19:47 |
| clarkb | apparnetly that doesn't reset the channel topic | 19:47 |
| jeblair | it probably has a fork of the swap role | 19:47 |
| clarkb | ah right | 19:47 |
| jeblair | or maybe not, i'm not sure | 19:47 |
| ianw | jeblair: it's not committed yet, and i don't think it was copied in when i looked | 19:48 |
| clarkb | ok so also need to check if it needs to be in devstack or update devstack | 19:48 |
| jeblair | at any rate, i think the thing to do is to put that role into ozj, use it in v3-native devstack job in devstack repo, and ignore devstack-gate. | 19:48 |
| jeblair | basically, don't spend any more time polishing ansible in devstack-gate; focus on v3-native devstack instead | 19:48 |
| clarkb | wfm | 19:49 |
| ianw | ok, that sounds like a plan | 19:49 |
| fungi | good plan | 19:49 |
| clarkb | ok next topic then | 19:49 |
| clarkb | #topic Unbound setup | 19:49 |
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| ianw | just another quick one from me | 19:49 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512153/ | 19:49 |
| ianw | this *was* in base ... caused problems | 19:49 |
| ianw | do we want it back? i mean, we're running without it and is it causing issues? | 19:49 |
| ianw | i know there was a lot of pain figuring it out in the first place | 19:49 |
| fungi | unbound was added to deal with intermittent issues | 19:50 |
| jeblair | i think we needed it for... rax? because of their dns blacklist? | 19:50 |
| clarkb | we have had dns resolution failures in some clouds | 19:50 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yes that was the origination of it | 19:50 |
| AJaeger | sorry, late to the party: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508906/ is merged and is the change that moves devstack job into devstack | 19:50 |
| clarkb | I think we likely do want to make sure unbound is present on test nodes and caching | 19:50 |
| ianw | so this is the dynamic setup bit, the ipv6/ipv4 resolvers | 19:50 |
| fungi | and i think we're not yet back to a point where we have similar levels of openstack-health and elastic-recheck history on v3 to be able to say it's unneeded | 19:50 |
| clarkb | ianw: ya that was to address problems with osic where we resolved via v4 through nat and that was flaky | 19:51 |
| jeblair | i don't think i've heard anything about that problem being fixed... in fact, last i heard was still "yep, that's a problem". so we may want to assume it's still (when we least expect it) necessary. | 19:51 |
| clarkb | I'm not aware of any clouds with that setup today but we may have that setup in the future ? | 19:51 |
| ianw | ok, do we want to merge it then? i'm just wary of adding things to base jobs in this transition period | 19:51 |
| clarkb | I'm in favor of it since that was a really annoying dns problem to debug and fix. I think if we have a fix we should keep applying it to avoid the problem in the future | 19:52 |
| ianw | i've put in testing notes, if people belive them | 19:52 |
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| fungi | thanks ianw! | 19:53 |
| jeblair | +2 from me | 19:53 |
| clarkb | I'll review that today if I have time before the dentist | 19:53 |
| clarkb | #topic Nominated new config cores | 19:53 |
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| ianw | i've unworkflowed it since i just wanted to discuss it, review at leisure then, thanks | 19:53 |
| clarkb | Just a heads up I nominated frickler jlk dmsimard and mnaser to be project-config and ozj and zuul-jobs cores | 19:53 |
| AJaeger | welcome new cores. There're quite a few open reviews waiting for you ;) | 19:54 |
| clarkb | I'd like to give them the +2 power sooner than later so if you want please respond to that thread | 19:54 |
| jeblair | huzzah! | 19:54 |
| fungi | welcome and thanks to our new job config core reviewers! | 19:54 |
| clarkb | I have not yet added them to groups but response here seems to indicate I should just get that over with :) | 19:54 |
| dmsimard | thread is here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2017-October/005613.html | 19:54 |
| jeblair | oh that's me. /me sends email now | 19:54 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: really more time? Go for it ;) | 19:54 |
| fungi | clarkb: you're being so public about additions--i just added them in the past and announced it ;) | 19:54 |
| clarkb | fungi: ha | 19:55 |
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| clarkb | ok I'll try to sneak that in before the dentist too | 19:55 |
| clarkb | #topic Project Renames | 19:55 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: do you want to cleanup the list as well? Some people are "retired"... | 19:55 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I think fungi was working on that, I will sync up with him on that | 19:55 |
| fungi | ahh, yeah. it's still on my to do list | 19:55 |
| clarkb | ok last week we tentatively said lets aim for 10/20 for projects renames and see where we are at post zuulv3 deployment | 19:55 |
| fungi | i'm still good with 10/20 | 19:56 |
| clarkb | Even though the deployment went well I'm feeling swamped with general pre summit stuff, v3 job fixes and other fixes. I worry that I won't have to ability to get prep work done. | 19:56 |
| clarkb | if others are able to take that on that would be great | 19:56 |
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| ianw | if we're stopping gerrit, i might try that swap-out of infra-specs repo too | 19:56 |
| clarkb | (also I'm told no TC meeting today so I think we'll go a few minutes long to cover all the things) | 19:57 |
| fungi | nova-specs? | 19:57 |
| ianw | the corrupt one | 19:57 |
| dmsimard | Oh wow Sydney is Nov 6th, I didn't realize it was so soon | 19:57 |
| ianw | what time is it scheduled? | 19:57 |
| jeblair | something-specs | 19:57 |
| clarkb | ianw: last meeting we said plan for 1600UTC but we can move that to accomodate you | 19:57 |
| pabelanger | 10/20 should work for me | 19:58 |
| jeblair | i don't have bandwidth to drive the rename but can support it. | 19:58 |
| clarkb | jeblair: same here. I can be around on friday and help push buttons but worried I won't have time to help with prep | 19:59 |
| clarkb | do we have volunteers to do the prep work and be ready for friday to do it? | 19:59 |
| clarkb | sounds like maybe fungi ianw and pabelanger ? | 19:59 |
| * pabelanger checks calander | 20:00 | |
| ianw | i can help with prep, but it's like 3am for me, but pabelanger can drive? | 20:00 |
| fungi | yeah, i can pick it up | 20:00 |
| clarkb | ianw: well I think we can shift it to later in the day too (also it is your saturday) | 20:00 |
| clarkb | fungi: cool thanks | 20:00 |
| pabelanger | I don't think I'll be able to start prep until 20:00 UTC, due to flight | 20:00 |
| clarkb | I guess last question then is what time should we do it? | 20:01 |
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| clarkb | ianw: would you be around for fixing nova-specs if it was later in the day (no pressure since esaturday) | 20:01 |
| ianw | if it's before about 9am my time that's ok (after that i have to play taxi for kid stuff) | 20:02 |
| jlvillal | If anyone is bored and wants to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509670/ This allows seeing the CRITICAL log level messages, if someone selects a log level to view. Has one +2 :) | 20:02 |
| clarkb | ianw: what is that in UTC? 20:00? | 20:02 |
| * clarkb is bad at timezone math | 20:02 | |
| ianw | yeah we just switched to daylight saving which throws me out | 20:03 |
| ianw | before 22:00UTC | 20:03 |
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| dmsimard | Are we 4 minutes overtime ? | 20:04 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: we are, but no TC meeting so hping to go over a few minutes and get this done | 20:04 |
| dmsimard | ack | 20:04 |
| clarkb | fungi: pabelanger ianw should we say 2000UTC then? | 20:04 |
| clarkb | on Friday 10/20? | 20:05 |
| fungi | that wfm | 20:05 |
| dmsimard | making sure there's no one looking through the window of the meeting room with menacing eyes :) | 20:05 |
| ianw | ok | 20:05 |
| pabelanger | yah | 20:05 |
| jeblair | wfm | 20:05 |
| clarkb | #agreed project renaming to commence at 2200UTC Friday 10/20 | 20:05 |
| clarkb | #topic open discussion | 20:05 |
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| clarkb | ianw had an item for this | 20:05 |
| ianw | clarkb: 2000 right? | 20:05 |
| fungi | ianw: yes | 20:06 |
| clarkb | oh yes | 20:06 |
| clarkb | can I double undo? | 20:06 |
| clarkb | #undo | 20:06 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic open discussion | 20:06 |
| clarkb | #undo | 20:06 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #agreed project renaming to commence at 2200UTC Friday 10/20 | 20:06 |
| clarkb | #agreed project renaming to commence at 2000UTC Friday 10/20 | 20:06 |
| clarkb | #topic open discussion | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 20:06 | |
| ianw | it's not important, but if we're not getting kicked out | 20:06 |
| fungi | there's nobody waiting in the hallway | 20:06 |
| ianw | conference schedule seems full, but is there interest in an infra-specific evening? | 20:07 |
| clarkb | I think it would be nice to get out for dinner/drinks one evening | 20:07 |
| pabelanger | always | 20:07 |
| dmsimard | I'll take a sec to thank you for core nomination, means a lot to me :D | 20:07 |
| clarkb | we can put up an etherpad and people can mark down availability | 20:07 |
| clarkb | ianw: is that something you want to help organize being local? | 20:08 |
| * fungi trusts ianw to recommend australian cuisine | 20:08 | |
| ianw | yeah, i was thinking maybe something more on the move if people want | 20:08 |
| ianw | catch a ferry, walk across the bridge, hit a pub in the rocks type thing? | 20:08 |
| ianw | or, i can just find a sit-down option too | 20:08 |
| fungi | yes please | 20:08 |
| fungi | to either | 20:08 |
| clarkb | ianw: I trust your judgement, that sounds awesome | 20:08 |
| dmsimard | nothing with venomous animals or critters :P | 20:09 |
| fungi | i'm good with the "hit a pub" option especially, but happy to do whatever | 20:09 |
| jeblair | dmsimard: let's not overly limit our options! | 20:09 |
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| clarkb | why don't we put up an etherpad to list availability and ianw can list options there? | 20:09 |
| ianw | alight, i'll do an etherpad and send something | 20:09 |
| fungi | dmsimard: that may eliminate much of that country | 20:09 |
| clarkb | awesome thanks! | 20:09 |
| dmsimard | I unfortunately won't be at the summit, but you guys have fun :) | 20:09 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: we'll miss you | 20:09 |
| clarkb | and with that our meeting is 10 minutes over and I think done | 20:10 |
| clarkb | thanks everyone | 20:10 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:10 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 20:10:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-17-19.00.html | 20:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-17-19.00.txt | 20:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-17-19.00.log.html | 20:10 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-wg | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 17 21:00:28 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-wg)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_wg' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #link agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_October_17th_2017 | 21:00 |
| oneswig | err... hello | 21:01 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: morning. | 21:04 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 21:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 21:04 |
| b1airo | Hi oneswig | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Quiet one so far :-) | 21:04 |
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| oneswig | Was hoping to hear about your recent work and the RoCE tuning you've been doing. | 21:04 |
| b1airo | Yeah and I am in Brisbane for a conference, so not all here I'm afraid | 21:05 |
| oneswig | Not to mention NVLink in KVM - saw your talk intro - woah there. | 21:05 |
| b1airo | We hit some me MOFED bugs, always fun | 21:05 |
| b1airo | *new MOFED | 21:06 |
| b1airo | (stupid phone keyboard) | 21:06 |
| oneswig | Was this related to your krazy SR-IOV over a bond thingy? | 21:06 |
| b1airo | Well the nvlink stuff is interesting, it pretty much just works | 21:06 |
| b1airo | No, we found MPI bombed out on some newer nodes (Broadwell) when getting to 28 procs | 21:08 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: I think I'll have to come along. So if I pass through 3 GPUs, they can do NVLink for GPU-direct between them in the virtualised context? | 21:08 |
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| b1airo | Was due to a memory/resource exhaustion issue in the driver with FCA enabled (which is default with MXM) | 21:09 |
| oneswig | b1airo: 28 procs is basically 1 node, right? | 21:09 |
| oneswig | plus or minus a few | 21:09 |
| b1airo | That's right oneswig - or even 8 GPUs if you happen to have a DGX-1 | 21:09 |
| b1airo | Nice devstack platform that | 21:10 |
| b1airo | ;-) | 21:10 |
| bollig | interesting. | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Hey bollig | 21:10 |
| bollig | hey all | 21:10 |
| b1airo | oneswig: yep one e5-2680v4 node | 21:10 |
| b1airo | Hi bollig | 21:11 |
| oneswig | b1airo: only the one DGX-1? You poor guys ... | 21:11 |
| b1airo | Lol | 21:11 |
| b1airo | It's tough down here | 21:11 |
| oneswig | box is probably full of spiders by now anyway... | 21:11 |
| b1airo | Anyway we confirmed the fix for the MPI issue yesterday (had to replace a NIC first) | 21:12 |
| oneswig | b1airo: what were the symptoms of the RoCE issue? | 21:12 |
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| b1airo | Have to tune VF and PF PCI LOG BAR settings in the firmware | 21:13 |
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| martial | good evening | 21:14 |
| oneswig | How was it bombing out? I need to test some new NICs with RoCE at 80 procs | 21:14 |
| martial | (or morning ...) | 21:14 |
| oneswig | Hi martial | 21:14 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:14 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:14 |
| b1airo | Hi martial | 21:14 |
| martial | Hi Stig, Blair, sorry for being late | 21:14 |
| b1airo | It'll just just crash on startup, let me find the error message... | 21:14 |
| oneswig | no worries, we were just getting going really, it's a slow one | 21:14 |
| oneswig | no rush b1airo, think my nodes are Haswell | 21:15 |
| b1airo | If you hit it you can workaround it by setting: | 21:16 |
| b1airo | export OMPI_MCA_coll_hcoll_enable=0 | 21:16 |
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| oneswig | thanks b1airo, noted | 21:16 |
| oneswig | We should go through some agenda items but first up... | 21:17 |
| oneswig | #topic Sydney Hackathon | 21:17 |
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| oneswig | I think you're all aware of that | 21:17 |
| oneswig | #link Hackathon http://hackathon.openstack.org.au | 21:17 |
| oneswig | martial: are you judging or was the travel time not convenient? | 21:18 |
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| martial | I am mentoring and very likely judging | 21:18 |
| martial | I will be there on time | 21:18 |
| oneswig | I think I may see you there then... I'll now be travelling to Sydney on the Saturday | 21:19 |
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| martial | good :) | 21:20 |
| martial | see you there | 21:20 |
| oneswig | #topic Sydney SIG activities | 21:20 |
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| oneswig | The events are in place: a meeting and bof | 21:21 |
| oneswig | Both IIRC on Monday, back-to-back | 21:21 |
| b1airo | Last week we started an etherpad for the lightning talk session, but I didn't get around to emailing it yet | 21:21 |
| oneswig | b1airo: oh great, my next question :-) | 21:22 |
| b1airo | Will do that right now... | 21:22 |
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| b1airo | It's at etherpad.openstack.org/p/sydney-scientific-sig-lightning-talks | 21:24 |
| oneswig | ah, too quick, you just pipped me | 21:24 |
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| oneswig | Ah, I saw that Saverio's already put his name down - I saw him talk about that in April and was really piqued by it. | 21:25 |
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| oneswig | Shall we do a social in Sydney? | 21:28 |
| b1airo | Email sent. I am still spamming both the SIGs and ops lists (I doubt the list membership has settled yet) | 21:28 |
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| oneswig | Thanks b1airo | 21:29 |
| oneswig | #topic ORC Update - Sydney | 21:30 |
| b1airo | Honestly, after the issues we've had organising it previously I was thinking it probably was not worthwhile | 21:30 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: informally, non-organised, perhaps... | 21:30 |
| oneswig | like the good ol' days :-) | 21:30 |
| b1airo | Yeah, I think maybe a non-sponsored one would be easier | 21:30 |
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| oneswig | seems fair. I think I was lucky dealing with the sponsors in Barcelona, it worked well. | 21:31 |
| martial | plus it makes it easier to chose on the spot (nearly :) ) | 21:31 |
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| oneswig | martial: can you update us on ORC? | 21:31 |
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| martial | yes of course | 21:34 |
| martial | so so far, the ORC planning is moving forward | 21:34 |
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| martial | I am going to try to have a meeting Thursday 8pm EST (Friday 11am Sydney time) to discuss local participation and presentations | 21:35 |
| martial | I will email the OpenStack ML about it | 21:35 |
| martial | we are not Wed/Thu full day | 21:35 |
| martial | will make it is easier for people to attend both | 21:36 |
| martial | there are still question of who can attend (ticket questions). Ms Vancsa started looking into that (thank you) | 21:36 |
| martial | (we are "now" ... Wed/Thu) | 21:37 |
| oneswig | Ah, thanks for clarifying | 21:37 |
| oneswig | I can at least attend on the Thursday. I'm talking on the Wednesday, alas | 21:37 |
| martial | Wilfred is still looking into a place for Thursday | 21:37 |
| martial | so pretty much a lot of work in progress | 21:38 |
| martial | still to do an basically open call for participation: | 21:38 |
| martial | We need to identify panelists for the sessions -- particularly getting presenters from regional country NRENs and research clouds. | 21:38 |
| martial | technical working group and industry participation | 21:38 |
| martial | and discussion of working group presentations and chairs | 21:39 |
| martial | but it is moving along smoothly | 21:39 |
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| martial | any point in particular to discuss? | 21:39 |
| martial | (ie questions) | 21:40 |
| martial | I have been giving access to the website, so I will post information and draft agenda | 21:41 |
| martial | I see David is around? any update for us by any chance? | 21:41 |
| oneswig | Was there any further on the idea of knitting it into the forum sessions more? | 21:42 |
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| oneswig | ok - move on? | 21:43 |
| martial | oneswig | 21:43 |
| oneswig | #topic Supercomputing | 21:43 |
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| oneswig | We need a volunteer who lives in Denver, or someone with a shipping address there! | 21:44 |
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| martial | yes I am now co-moderating the P2302 meeting, so we will have a forum session on Tuesday | 21:44 |
| b1airo | For books? | 21:44 |
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| oneswig | The Foundation's printing the OpenStack/HPC book and needs a shipping address | 21:44 |
| oneswig | with an inexact delivery date, I believe | 21:45 |
| oneswig | So a booth on the floor is good for a day or two beforehand, but they might be more vague than that. | 21:45 |
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| b1airo | I have some vendor contacts in Denver. Might be a little bit of an odd ask, so maybe only if there is no better idea... | 21:45 |
| b1airo | Also, the OpenStack SC BOF is confirmed, has been on the programme a week or two now | 21:46 |
| oneswig | Kathy says: "I can’t control when they’ll arrive, unfortunately. Can we ship the desired Supercomputing quantity to someone close to the event (drivable is ideal) so they can hand carry the boxes and distribute them at the show? Or I can ship to a hotel, hopefully they’ll hold the boxes if they arrive very early. Please send the contact name, address, phone, and if a hotel, the arrival dat | 21:47 |
| oneswig | e." | 21:47 |
| martial | the go community might have some people there, I will try to contact some people I know there | 21:47 |
| armstrong | Is it possible for us to have the OpenStack/HPC book? | 21:48 |
| martial | (gophercon is usually in Denver) | 21:48 |
| armstrong | i mean copy of the book | 21:48 |
| b1airo | It will be updated to reflect a merge with 3 other speakers who had a submission put in for them by some vendors/analysts and will now become part of ours (there's was an OpenStack HPC storage integration focus, so works well) | 21:48 |
| oneswig | Somewhat hilariously, the Work of flanders_ appears in her next paragraph: "I can also send another smaller batch to one other person. Maybe this person can distribute to the contributors. This batch could also go to someone at the Sydney Summit. Maybe to Blaire? " | 21:48 |
| oneswig | b1airo: I can take one for the team - John's going to attend in my place so you can take me off the panel to make room | 21:49 |
| b1airo | Gargh, damn that man! | 21:49 |
| b1airo | oneswig: I think we'll be ok for room, but are you not coming at all now? | 21:49 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: unfortunately no. We looked at it long and hard, it's a huge shame to miss out. | 21:50 |
| martial | stig: missing SC? | 21:50 |
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| oneswig | martial: alas, yes - we'll need to make the most of Sydney :-) | 21:51 |
| b1airo | Long time to be away from home | 21:51 |
| oneswig | ok, it seems nobody present lives near Denver and is going to SC. | 21:52 |
| flanders_ | Doh! What I do? | 21:52 |
| oneswig | flanders_: Ask Blairé | 21:52 |
| b1airo | At least it isn't Blairè | 21:53 |
| oneswig | touché | 21:53 |
| b1airo | (would sound like a cat throwing up) | 21:53 |
| flanders_ | I think this is my disinformation, Kathy might be calling you Blairé he he ;p | 21:53 |
| oneswig | flanders_ work is done here | 21:54 |
| flanders_ | I'm so proud! | 21:54 |
| flanders_ | Love U Blair ;D | 21:54 |
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| b1airo | Maybe I'll start a new LinkedIn and see if I get profiled differently with the é | 21:54 |
| oneswig | b1airo: is it a stretch too far to call up your friendly vendor in Denver? | 21:55 |
| martial | maybe you can do the evil twin moustache | 21:55 |
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| b1airo | oneswig: I'll give it a shot | 21:55 |
| flanders_ | Btw +1 if we can get ORC sessions for the Wed listed as part of the forum schedule. martial if so email speakersupport@OpenStack.org to suggest with Erin, Ildiko and myself Cc'd | 21:56 |
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| oneswig | Thanks b1airo, I'll copy you in to Kathy's mail to work out details | 21:56 |
| martial | good idea flanders_ | 21:56 |
| flanders_ | 👍 | 21:56 |
| oneswig | You mean, flandres? | 21:57 |
| martial | are we Frenchicizing everybody's name? | 21:57 |
| martial | I win, mine is already correct then :) | 21:57 |
| flanders_ | +1 for Flandres! Ye oldy spelling! | 21:58 |
| b1airo | Lol | 21:58 |
| oneswig | Excellent | 21:58 |
| oneswig | We should wrap up | 21:58 |
| martial | flanders_: re ORC, there will be a Friday 11am Sydney time call, can you join? | 21:58 |
| oneswig | #topic AOB | 21:58 |
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| flanders_ | Gotta run, can't wait to see y'all in Syd, Flandres out yo. | 21:58 |
| oneswig | Thanks Flandres :-) | 21:58 |
| oneswig | Any more to add? | 21:59 |
| martial | I am good | 21:59 |
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| oneswig | armstrong: to your earlier question - will you be at Supercomputing? The books will be given out there. | 21:59 |
| b1airo | oneswig: I didn't find the exact error message | 21:59 |
| b1airo | But it is an out of memory | 22:00 |
| armstrong | OH no but I will be at Syd | 22:00 |
| b1airo | Or perhaps "memory allocation error" | 22:00 |
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| b1airo | If you run an all2all test you will hit it | 22:00 |
| oneswig | I have OpenMPI over TCP latencies that are insanely high. Too high. Like 16ms. This is PV-OVS-VxLAN - it's meant to be slow but that's unbelievable | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Trying to find something to compare against RoCE and ASAP2 - but can't fit these things on the same graph! | 22:01 |
| oneswig | OK, time to close - thanks all | 22:02 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 17 22:02:09 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-10-17-21.00.html | 22:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-10-17-21.00.txt | 22:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-10-17-21.00.log.html | 22:02 |
| armstrong | @oneswig OH no but I will be at Sydney. When is ORC coming up? | 22:02 |
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| oneswig | At Sydney, Wednesday-Thursday of same week | 22:02 |
| armstrong | ok I will be there | 22:02 |
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| oneswig | great, see you then | 22:03 |
| martial | armstrong: cool | 22:05 |
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| armstrong | Thanks | 22:05 |
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