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| Shunli | :) | 02:59 |
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| mkrai | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 10 03:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mkrai. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| mkrai | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2016-07-12_0300_UTC Today's agenda | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
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| mkrai | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| kiennt26 | hi o/ | 03:00 |
| lakerzhou | lakerzhou | 03:00 |
| mkrai | Thank you for joining kiennt26 lakerzhou the meeting | 03:01 |
| mkrai | Let's wait for a min for other potential attendees | 03:01 |
| Shunli | :) | 03:01 |
| mkrai | Hi Shunli | 03:01 |
| Shunli | hi mkrai | 03:02 |
| mkrai | Seems we have very few people joining in today | 03:02 |
| mkrai | #topic Announcements | 03:02 |
| mkrai | hongbin is not available today so madhuri will chair this meeting. | 03:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:02 | |
| mkrai | Do anyone have any announcement? | 03:02 |
| mkrai | Seems none | 03:02 |
| mkrai | #topic Review Action Items | 03:03 |
| mkrai | None | 03:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:03 | |
| mkrai | #topic Cinder integration (hongbin) | 03:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cinder integration (hongbin) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:03 | |
| mkrai | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/direct-cinder-integration | 03:03 |
| mkrai | So hongbin is not present today, I went to see the patches are pending for review | 03:04 |
| mkrai | So team if you get chance please do review this | 03:04 |
| mkrai | kiennt26: I remember you were testing this patch, right? | 03:04 |
| kiennt26 | mkrai: yeah | 03:05 |
| mkrai | Did you have any findings? | 03:05 |
| kiennt26 | i almost finished testing | 03:05 |
| kiennt26 | seems these patches works pretty well | 03:05 |
| mkrai | That's great, so we can try to merge this patches soon | 03:06 |
| mkrai | Thanks kiennt26 for your effort in testing :) | 03:06 |
| mkrai | Any other comments on this bp? | 03:06 |
| mkrai | #topic Introduce container composition (kevinz) | 03:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Introduce container composition (kevinz) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:07 | |
| mkrai | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/introduce-compose | 03:07 |
| mkrai | I saw a document is up for review explaining the capsule usage | 03:07 |
| mkrai | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502461/ | 03:07 |
| mkrai | Please take a look at the doc if you get time | 03:08 |
| kevinz | sorry | 03:08 |
| kevinz | I'm in a meeting just now | 03:08 |
| mkrai | Hi kevinz | 03:08 |
| kevinz | Hi mkrai | 03:08 |
| mkrai | We are discussing the capsule topic | 03:08 |
| mkrai | Would you like to provide an update? | 03:08 |
| mkrai | kevinz: Oh no problem | 03:09 |
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| mkrai | Any questions on this topic? | 03:10 |
| kevinz | Last week I'm on holiday for one week, this week I'll work on modify the capsule document | 03:10 |
| kevinz | And also about the k8s-connector | 03:10 |
| mkrai | kevinz: Look forward to the doc | 03:10 |
| kevinz | mkrai: Thanks | 03:10 |
| mkrai | kevinz: Are you planning to submit a spec or etherpad for the k8s-connector findings? | 03:10 |
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| kevinz | mkrai: Plan to, but still need some investigation and put it to our team meeting to discuss | 03:11 |
| mkrai | kevinz: cool. This will be a very good feature :) | 03:12 |
| mkrai | Thank you for working on this | 03:12 |
| kevinz | mkrai: My pleasure. It is a very interesting features | 03:12 |
| mkrai | Yes it is | 03:12 |
| mkrai | Ok, let's move to next topic | 03:12 |
| mkrai | #topic Add support for clear container (mkrai) | 03:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add support for clear container (mkrai) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:12 | |
| mkrai | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zun/+spec/support-secure-container | 03:13 |
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| mkrai | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499534/ | 03:13 |
| mkrai | I was not able to post update to the patch last week | 03:13 |
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| mkrai | I am working on installing Clear Container with devstack in devstack-plugin-container | 03:14 |
| mkrai | The patch has some issues which I will try to fix this week | 03:14 |
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| mkrai | Anyone have any questions on this topic? | 03:15 |
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| kiennt26 | none from me | 03:15 |
| kevinz | Look forward to try the CC with zun | 03:15 |
| mkrai | Ok let's move to next topic then | 03:15 |
| mkrai | kevinz: Thank you | 03:15 |
| mkrai | #topic NFV use cases (lakerzhou, Shunli) | 03:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "NFV use cases (lakerzhou, Shunli) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:15 | |
| mkrai | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zun-nfv-use-cases | 03:16 |
| mkrai | lakerzhou: Shunli Would like to take the stage now? :) | 03:16 |
| lakerzhou | I worked with hongbin last week, tested his changes in kuryr | 03:16 |
| Shunli | pci stats patch is under reviewing. | 03:17 |
| Shunli | pci_tracker is debuging the code. | 03:17 |
| lakerzhou | now we can use kuryr driver to start docker container bound to Neutron SRIOV port | 03:17 |
| mkrai | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/zun+branch:master+topic:bp/support-pcipassthroughfilter | 03:17 |
| mkrai | lakerzhou: Can you share the patch link? | 03:18 |
| mkrai | Shunli: ack | 03:18 |
| lakerzhou | sure | 03:18 |
| Shunli | maybe this week the pci_tracker can be ready for review. | 03:19 |
| mkrai | Shunli: Great, look forward to it | 03:19 |
| mkrai | Shunli: The code is from Nova right? | 03:19 |
| Shunli | mkrai:the basic framework is from nova. | 03:20 |
| lakerzhou | sriov related kuryr patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500436/ | 03:20 |
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| Shunli | just changed the behavior that nova gather pci info from libvirt. zun just get pci info by shell command. | 03:21 |
| lakerzhou | additional kuryr patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500420/ | 03:21 |
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| mkrai | lakerzhou: Thanks, looks like we are waiting on the patch for kuryr-lib release | 03:21 |
| mkrai | lakerzhou: Shunli Thanks for your effort on this | 03:22 |
| Shunli | my pleasure,:) | 03:22 |
| mkrai | I don't have much knowledge on this feature so can't discuss more :) | 03:22 |
| mkrai | Anything else to discuss on this bp? | 03:23 |
| mkrai | Ok let's move on to open discussion | 03:23 |
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| mkrai | #topic Open Discussion | 03:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:24 | |
| lakerzhou | thanks Shunli for the help of PCI-passthrough work. When do you think we can start integration testing | 03:24 |
| Shunli | lakerzhou: after the pci tracker merged. | 03:24 |
| Shunli | there still need to add some pci request code. | 03:24 |
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| Shunli | maybe integration test can be done when pci request patch submitted. | 03:25 |
| lakerzhou | Sorry, I have been working on some other task, and totally not involved in the review | 03:25 |
| lakerzhou | I will followup more closely, once the coding is done, I will start integration | 03:26 |
| mkrai | We still have a good progress on this bp :) | 03:26 |
| mkrai | Anything else to discuss ? | 03:26 |
| Shunli | sorry, also need the pci scheduler code ready. | 03:26 |
| lakerzhou | thanks mkrai, nothing from me | 03:27 |
| mkrai | Ok so we can end meeting early today I guess | 03:27 |
| Shunli | pci request code will parse zun create request and get pci request info and pass to scheduler. | 03:27 |
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| Shunli | the scheduler select the correct node, then will pass pci info to the kuryr. | 03:27 |
| mkrai | Shunli: ack | 03:28 |
| Shunli | nothing from me | 03:28 |
| mkrai | Lot of work is still needed to start the integration test | 03:28 |
| lakerzhou | sounds great shunli. Scheduler testing can be independent | 03:29 |
| mkrai | Thanks Shunli lakerzhou | 03:29 |
| mkrai | Thank you everyone for joining the meeting today. See you all next week. | 03:30 |
| mkrai | #endmeeting | 03:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 10 03:30:24 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-10-10-03.00.html | 03:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-10-10-03.00.txt | 03:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-10-10-03.00.log.html | 03:30 |
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| samP | Hi all for masakari | 03:59 |
| tpatil | Hi | 03:59 |
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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 10 04:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| samP | tpatil: hi | 04:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 04:00 |
| samP | sorry, didn't have time to update the agenda in wiki | 04:00 |
| samP | abhishekk: hi | 04:00 |
| samP | #topic bugs | 04:00 |
| rkmrHonjo | hi | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| abhishekk | samP: hi | 04:00 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: hi | 04:00 |
| samP | Any bugs to discuss? | 04:00 |
| rkmrHonjo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1721742 | 04:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721742 in masakari "Masakari will fail to recovery instances on failure host if instance's task_state is not none" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to takahara.kengo (takahara.kengo) | 04:01 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:02 |
| rkmrHonjo | Takahara reported that bug. And, he plan to reset task_state by reset state API. | 04:02 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: can you reset the task_state? | 04:02 |
| abhishekk | i guess no | 04:03 |
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| samP | abhishekk: same here | 04:03 |
| sagara | Hi | 04:03 |
| samP | I think you only can reset the vm_state to active or error | 04:03 |
| samP | sagara: Hi | 04:03 |
| abhishekk | you can only reset vm_state | 04:03 |
| abhishekk | samP: right | 04:03 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samp: Will reset state API change task_state to None? | 04:04 |
| tpatil | it reset task state to None | 04:04 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: does it? Im not sure. could you please try that out and post your findings in LP bug report? | 04:04 |
| samP | tpatil: OK, then it would be possible | 04:05 |
| tpatil | I have checked the code, it reset vm_state to whatever is passed to the API and task_state to None | 04:05 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. Just in case, I re-confirm reset-state API spec and write it on LP. | 04:05 |
| samP | tpatil: rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:06 |
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| samP | let's wait for the patch. Please make sure that you will not break the other logic | 04:07 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Sure. | 04:08 |
| samP | any other bugs to discuss? | 04:08 |
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| samP | if any, please bring them in AOB at the end | 04:09 |
| samP | #topic Discussion points | 04:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion points (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:09 | |
| samP | (1) Application for become OpenStack official project | 04:09 |
| samP | TC will approve the application today or tomorrow. Congratulations team... | 04:10 |
| rkmrHonjo | Cheers! | 04:11 |
| samP | Thierry's comment "Majority reached, to be approved on Oct 10 unless new objections are posted" | 04:11 |
| abhishekk | Congratulations | 04:11 |
| sagara | Great! | 04:11 |
| samP | (2) Install guide document | 04:11 |
| samP | Need to review this..I will find some time to review those in this week. Really sorry for the delay | 04:12 |
| samP | (3) Recovery method customization | 04:12 |
| abhishekk | I guess, you can review it once openstack doc theme is applied | 04:12 |
| tpatil | abhishekk: Earlier, you had uploaded guide docs using openstack doc theme, correct? | 04:13 |
| abhishekk | tpatil: yes | 04:13 |
| abhishekk | after that I have added few things as a review comments given by rkmrHonjo san | 04:14 |
| tpatil | abhishekk: ok, so it's easy to revert them back, right? | 04:14 |
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| abhishekk | so Once we revert it I need to add those changes again | 04:14 |
| tpatil | abhishekk: ok, I got it. | 04:14 |
| samP | abhishekk: Hopefully, from tomorrow, we can use the theme. If you have time, please revert it and fix the theme | 04:16 |
| abhishekk | samP: yes | 04:17 |
| samP | abhishekk: thanks | 04:17 |
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| samP | (3) Recovery method customization | 04:17 |
| samP | Any update on this? | 04:17 |
| tpatil | samP: Need to update specs | 04:18 |
| tpatil | samP: we have plan to add action python package in masakari repo and in setup.py, we will create a separate lib which operator will need to install it on mistral executor nodes | 04:18 |
| samP | tpatil: Understand. I will review again once update done | 04:18 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok, Thanks | 04:19 |
| samP | tpatil: Understand about the new package, please details of your plan in spec. let's discuss where is the best place for this package | 04:20 |
| tpatil | samP: Sure | 04:20 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:21 |
| samP | (4) Find hosts without specifying segments | 04:21 |
| samP | I guess, we have to review this, right? | 04:21 |
| rkmrHonjo | Dinesh_Bhor: Thank you for reviewing. | 04:21 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: yes. Please. | 04:21 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: np | 04:22 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: I will do it, and again sorry for the delay | 04:22 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: No problem. | 04:22 |
| samP | (5) Queens Work Items | 04:22 |
| samP | We already currently active items. Any other items need to discuss? | 04:23 |
| tpatil | Yes, we are planning to add masakari horizon plugin | 04:24 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Should we run masakari in python3? | 04:24 |
| samP | tpatil: great. have you start it? | 04:24 |
| tpatil | We have understood horizon code and implemented POC for certain screens | 04:25 |
| tpatil | Who will create masakari horizon plugin repo in GitHub? | 04:25 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: please wait | 04:25 |
| rkmrHonjo | sorry | 04:26 |
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| tpatil | I will ask Niraj to add a new BP masakari horizon plugin | 04:26 |
| samP | tpatil: Any one can propose it. However, now we are official, we need to add it to TC project list under masakari | 04:26 |
| tpatil | samP: ok, I will check the documentation and will do the needful | 04:27 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks, please let me know if anything unclear | 04:28 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: sorry to keep you on hold | 04:28 |
| tpatil | samP: sure | 04:28 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: about python 3 | 04:28 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: yes. | 04:28 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Masakari already supports python 3 | 04:29 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP, rkmrHonjo: All masakari projects are python 3.5 compatible | 04:29 |
| samP | I think we dont have any known problem with python 3, and we have py3 jobs running in gate | 04:29 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: thanks | 04:29 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Dinesh_Bhor: Ok. | 04:30 |
| rkmrHonjo | sorry, I haven't grasped about python3 compatibility. | 04:31 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: above that answered to your question? | 04:31 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: yes. | 04:31 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: ok then. | 04:31 |
| samP | (6) BM HA (ironic + nova) | 04:32 |
| samP | No progress.. | 04:32 |
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| samP | (7) OpenStack Proposal Bot updates | 04:32 |
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| samP | We have long queue of updates from BOT. | 04:33 |
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| samP | I would like to decide a policy for this.. | 04:34 |
| rkmrHonjo | By the way, UT codes should be fixed according to new oslo.context.(Please see Patch set 89) | 04:34 |
| samP | Do you think its better to review and merge each patch as it comes, or do it once on time to time | 04:34 |
| rkmrHonjo | So I'll submit other patch to fix it after that. | 04:34 |
| rkmrHonjo | oh, sorry | 04:35 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: thanks, I have seen that | 04:35 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: its ok | 04:35 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: And, I agree to your opinion "I would like to decide a policy for this" | 04:36 |
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| samP | I think bot options are OK, I will check and merge proposal bot updates currently pending. | 04:37 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: No objections. | 04:38 |
| tpatil | Presently, Jenkins jobs are failing | 04:38 |
| samP | For bot updates in future, we could do it single handedly, any objections? | 04:39 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Yes. So I submit a patch to fix UT code after that. | 04:39 |
| samP | tpatil: thaz zuul3 right? | 04:39 |
| abhishekk | samP: no | 04:40 |
| abhishekk | no objection | 04:40 |
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| tpatil | samP: At the bottom, it giving error for Zulu | 04:40 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: No, jenkins failures are caused by UT codes. | 04:40 |
| tpatil | [Zuul] Job complete, result: FAILURE | 04:40 |
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| samP | tpatil: I think zuul -1 means zuul 3 fail, which is OK. I think Monty send a mail about this in ML | 04:41 |
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| tpatil | s/Zulu/zuul | 04:41 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP: yes | 04:41 |
| samP | tpatil: zuul or jenkins is zuul2 | 04:41 |
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| samP | sorry, zuul and jenkins are run with zuul2 | 04:42 |
| tpatil | In Jenkins job, I see above error | 04:42 |
| samP | tpatil: In this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452503/ | 04:43 |
| samP | tpatil: I will check that.. | 04:44 |
| tpatil | No, this one, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477955/ | 04:44 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | tpatil: This one failing because of UT | 04:44 |
| samP | tpatil: Ah, yes.. someting wrong with this one. I will check that later | 04:45 |
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| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: got it. | 04:45 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: thanks.. | 04:45 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: I'm preparing to submit a patch to fix it. | 04:47 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:47 |
| samP | Anyway, for future bot updates, all core members feel free to approve and merge bot updates single handedly | 04:48 |
| samP | If you are not sure, then please discuss with other.. | 04:48 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:49 |
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| tpatil | samP: OK, after Jenkin job passes, I will approve and merge these patches | 04:49 |
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| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:49 |
| tpatil | I have already approved this patch, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508419/, can you please review it? | 04:49 |
| samP | tpatil: Ah, yes. thanks. I will look | 04:50 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: sorry, I was late for reviewing... | 04:51 |
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| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: np | 04:51 |
| samP | Any other thins to discuss?, if not we could end today's meeting bit early | 04:52 |
| samP | s/thins/things | 04:52 |
| rkmrHonjo | no. | 04:52 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | no | 04:53 |
| tpatil | Nothing from my end for now | 04:53 |
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| sagara | no | 04:53 |
| samP | OK then, thanks you all. If you have any points to discuss, please use ML with [masakari], or use our IRC channel #openstack-masakari | 04:54 |
| samP | bye | 04:54 |
| rkmrHonjo | bye | 04:54 |
| samP | let's end for today | 04:54 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 04:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 10 04:54:49 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-10-10-04.00.html | 04:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-10-10-04.00.txt | 04:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-10-10-04.00.log.html | 04:54 |
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| jlibosva | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 10 14:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
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| jlibosva | hi! \o/ | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
| annp | hi | 14:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
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| amotoki | hi | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | #topic Announcements | 14:00 |
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| bcafarel | hello | 14:00 |
| reedip_ | o/ | 14:00 |
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| davidsha | hi | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | First thing - I noticed a new zuul v3 work is planned for tomorrow | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | an outage is expected - more information at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123337.html | 14:01 |
| * bcafarel crosses fingers | 14:01 | |
| jlibosva | scheduled time is 11 UTC tomorrow | 14:01 |
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| jlibosva | another great thing is happening tomorrow - which is abug triage sprint organized by mlavalle | 14:02 |
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| jlibosva | more information here | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123000.html | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: I see there were no replies on the thread - I assume it's still a thing | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, all of those whoe saw it, let's pick a few bugs and triage them | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | ack | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | let's see how many we can knock out | 14:03 |
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| davidsha | +1 | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | next thing related to bug triaging - we changed bug deputy role from volunteering on meetings to a rotating role | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/122983.html | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | feel free to add your name at the wiki page if you'd like to help with bug triaging | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | I want to thank all of those who volunteered | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | that's all announcements from me. anybody has any other announcements to make? | 14:05 |
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| mlavalle | given the great response, each one of us will only be on duty a 3 times per year | 14:05 |
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| mlavalle | maybe a little more, but less than four for sure | 14:05 |
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| boden | FYI: supposedly we are moving back to zuul v3 tomorrow so we may have some things to work through with that… we can discuss more in the CI meeting later today | 14:06 |
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| mlavalle | boden: yeah, let's do that | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | ok, thanks boden | 14:07 |
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| jlibosva | let's move on | 14:07 |
| jlibosva | #topic Blueprints | 14:07 |
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| jlibosva | I think mlavalle made some cleaning in blueprints for Q and assigned up-to-date approvers, so thanks for doing that :) | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | there is more to come | 14:08 |
| jlibosva | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | I hadn't made all the progress I wanted | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | but making some progress so far | 14:08 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle: are those pike BPs gonna be discussed with drivers? | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | I need to continue the clean up | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | I might bring some of them to the drivers meeting | 14:10 |
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| jlibosva | okie | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | anybody has anything related to blueprints? | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | I will try to have a clean slate by next week | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | I'm looking at the release planning and the first milestone is set to next week | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | 19 October 2017 | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | I think annp might want to highlight some of the logging pachsets | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | that are targeted at Q-1 | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | I started reading the spec and I plan to dedicate more time to those patches | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | if he is not around, hang on, I have the list | 14:12 |
| annp | mlavalle, hi | 14:12 |
| jlibosva | I was looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1468366+(status:open+OR+status:merged) yesterday to get the status of where the BP stands | 14:12 |
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| annp | regarding logging patchsets: these patchs are ready for reviewing. | 14:13 |
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| mlavalle | The following are targeted for Q-1: | 14:14 |
| annp | however, currently i didn't get more review from core :) | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/396104 | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/468265 | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/468281 | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409819/ | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: so as far as logging let's focus on those four ^^^^ | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | this week | 14:15 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: ack, thanks | 14:15 |
| amotoki | yeah, others are testing and devstack patches, so the above sounds reasonable | 14:16 |
| annp | mlavalle, jlibosva: thanks. | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | there are more patches in the logging series, but those are targeted for Q-2 | 14:16 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: hopefully you can help with the fourth one ;-) | 14:16 |
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| amotoki | mlavalle: sure. i hope i can review others too | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 14:17 |
| jlibosva | anybody has any other blueprints that are scheduled to q1? | 14:17 |
| annp | amotoki: thanks in advance. | 14:17 |
| jlibosva | if not, we can jump to the next topic | 14:18 |
| jlibosva | #topic Bugs | 14:18 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle was the bug deputy last week | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | so I was the bug deputy last week | 14:18 |
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| jlibosva | :) | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | we don't have critical bugs as of now | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | we had the big zuul v3 scare last Tuesday | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | and then things fell back to normally gradually | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | so we should be vigilant tomorrow, when they are switching it back again | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | I spent time triaging new bugs. not much to highlight in this meeting | 14:20 |
| jlibosva | ok, thanks mlavalle | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: do you have anythng to highlight? | 14:20 |
| jlibosva | nope | 14:20 |
| jlibosva | just fyi, I'm the bug deputy for this week so I'll send a summary on Monday as I'm not gonna attend the US meeting next week | 14:21 |
| jlibosva | I think we can move to docs topic | 14:21 |
| jlibosva | #topic Docs | 14:21 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle: you again :) | 14:22 |
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| mlavalle | jlibosva: no, that is boden | 14:22 |
| jlibosva | oh, sorry | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | and I know he's been busy | 14:22 |
| boden | I’ve gone through all the doc and api-ref defects | 14:22 |
| boden | there are a number of patches out there to fix a bunch of them | 14:23 |
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| boden | there’s also a small set (maybe 6) of “wishlist” doc defects… they are more enhancements so I probably won’t address them short term | 14:23 |
| boden | a question: wasn’t someone going to make a list of the extensions to api-ref mapping to see which we are still missing? | 14:24 |
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| boden | I thought we discussed that at PTG | 14:24 |
| amotoki | boden: it is me | 14:24 |
| boden | amotoki: ok.. still on your TODO list? | 14:24 |
| amotoki | sorry for late but i plan to make a list this week | 14:24 |
| boden | no worries, just a friendly follow-up.. thanks! | 14:24 |
| amotoki | thanks | 14:24 |
| boden | there’s 1 doc patch that would be nice to merge, let me find it | 14:25 |
| boden | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505172 | 14:25 |
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| boden | it fixes formatting with our install guide… seems like something we’d want to have documented properly | 14:25 |
| boden | that’s it from me, unless there are comments | 14:26 |
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| mlavalle | boden: do you have any objections to merge the patch now? | 14:26 |
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| boden | mlavalle: nope… I think we may consider putting it in pike too | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | boden: merging now | 14:27 |
| boden | cool | 14:27 |
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| jlibosva | boden: thanks for updates | 14:27 |
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| jlibosva | anybody has anything else related to docs? | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | done | 14:27 |
| jlibosva | I guess not :) | 14:28 |
| jlibosva | #topic OSC | 14:28 |
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| jlibosva | amotoki: hi :) | 14:28 |
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| amotoki | as we discussed in PTG, OSC main migration has completed | 14:28 |
| amotoki | if there are some missing options or feature, feel free to file a bug to OSC | 14:29 |
| amotoki | our current target is OSC plugin for advanced services | 14:29 |
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| amotoki | I haven't looked through neutronclient patches yet. will look through them by next week | 14:30 |
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| bcafarel | on python-neutronclient functional tests broke ~2 weeks ago so all osc recent reviews get -1 | 14:30 |
| amotoki | is there any patches or topic to raise? | 14:30 |
| bcafarel | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+bug/1721553 (legacy CLI failing on keystone auth apparently) | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721553 in python-neutronclient "Functional tests fail: Expecting to find domain in project / auth_url was not provided to the Neutron client" [Undecided,New] | 14:31 |
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| amotoki | bcafarel: will check it | 14:31 |
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| boden | in regards to the gap we have in OSC for resource attr extensions… I’m starting to get the feeling this might not happen in Queens, but more TBD if I can get anyone to respond about it :) | 14:31 |
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| bcafarel | thanks amotoki :) (sorry to add another one to your return todo list) | 14:32 |
| amotoki | I see keystoneclient import is still used. it might be related. keystoneauth should be used. | 14:32 |
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| jlibosva | bcafarel: thanks for bringing this up | 14:33 |
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| jlibosva | amotoki: and thanks for the updates :) | 14:33 |
| amotoki | boden: I think there are long term and short term solutions. is there any plan to move vendor-speciifc attr extension to the official one? | 14:33 |
| amotoki | *in long term | 14:34 |
| boden | amotoki no such plans ATM, I haven’t been able to get any response on the direction for OSC/SDK/etc. | 14:34 |
| amotoki | in short term, we can keep neutron CLI. API-SIG folks do not like API extensions (for long term) as nova does and we need to discuss the direction including this point. | 14:35 |
| boden | amotoki: ack | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | is API-SIG cdent and company? | 14:36 |
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| amotoki | he is the API-SIG lead... micorversion folks think similar. | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | ack | 14:37 |
| amotoki | it is not an easy thing.... i know | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | thanks guys, we shall move to the next topic I think | 14:38 |
| amotoki | let's move on | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | #topic neutron-lib | 14:38 |
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| jlibosva | boden: hi again :) | 14:39 |
| boden | so there are 2 specs out for review that deal with decoupling db (we discussed a bit at PTG)… when folks get time | 14:39 |
| boden | I’ve also been working on reviving a number of “consumption” patches in neutron and others | 14:40 |
| boden | I’ve been updating all the impacted projects so that’s why I haven’t been sending ML notices.. so far so good, unless someone else has heard otherwise | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | boden: do you have links handy to those specs? | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | are those the ones we've been merging over the past few days? | 14:41 |
| boden | for the specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509564/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473531/ | 14:41 |
| boden | mlavalle: yes, and there are still others in the queue | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | I'll keep an eye on them | 14:41 |
| boden | lots of work to be done in lib, but I won’t belabor details… neutron-lib business as usual :) | 14:42 |
| jlibosva | thanks | 14:42 |
| boden | nothing else critial to discuss ATM from me | 14:42 |
| jlibosva | boden: thanks for updates | 14:43 |
| jlibosva | unless nobody has anything to say to neutron-lib, we can move to open discussion | 14:43 |
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| jlibosva | #topic open discussion | 14:44 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 14:44 |
| jlibosva | there is no topic on the wiki | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | I have a topic I want to share with the team | 14:44 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: stage is yours :) | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | Last week, we decided to have the Neutron drivers meeting in alternate times, like we do for this meeting | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | up unitl now the meetings have been taking place at 2200UTC on Thursday | 14:46 |
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| mlavalle | we have decided to alternate that with 1400UTC on Thursday | 14:46 |
| jlibosva | nice :) | 14:46 |
| reedip_ | that would be great mlavalle | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | This week will be at this new time | 14:47 |
| jlibosva | is also gonna be a bi-weekly? | 14:47 |
| reedip_ | Asia TZ can catch up then ... | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | yeap, by-weekly alternation | 14:47 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: is there any review to propose the change? | 14:47 |
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| mlavalle | with the new alternate time, we are targeting folks in the US East coast, Europe and the Middle Eastr | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | and apparently also amotoki and yamamoto in Japan prefer this time | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: no, I will do it today | 14:48 |
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| amotoki | mlavalle: thanks. i just thought it makes everyone find the new meeting more easily | 14:49 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: agree | 14:49 |
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| reedip_ | amotoki +1 | 14:49 |
| jlibosva | +1 | 14:49 |
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| jlibosva | we have 10 minutes, any other topic or we chose 10 minutes back? | 14:50 |
| amotoki | Indian folks can join 1400UTC meeting :) | 14:50 |
| davidsha | Can I put out an ask? | 14:50 |
| hoangcx_ | mlavalle: amotoki: Hi, I would like to know: Is there any plan to review about stadium inclusion for non-stadium projects in Queens? | 14:50 |
| reedip_ | Yes amotoki :) | 14:51 |
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| amotoki | there are two topics from davidsha and hoangcx_ | 14:51 |
| amotoki | davidsha: go ahead first | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | hoangcx_: yes, if you have something to discuss on that, we can talk in the channel | 14:51 |
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| mlavalle | davidsha: go ahead | 14:51 |
| davidsha | Neutron Classifier is working on it's service plugin atm and need people experienced with Oslo versioned objects for reviews, the patch isn't ready yet, but are there any volunteers? | 14:52 |
| davidsha | patch is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499571/ | 14:52 |
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| mlavalle | the best person there is ihrachys | 14:53 |
| jlibosva | davidsha: I think the best would be to loop ihrachys in | 14:53 |
| bcafarel | :) | 14:53 |
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| mlavalle | I would ping him in the Neutron channel | 14:53 |
| davidsha | mlavalle, jlibosva perfect I'll get in touch with him! | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | hoangcx_: we have a few minutes here, go ahead | 14:53 |
| hoangcx_ | mlavalle: Thanks I will discuss about that later in the channel. | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:54 |
| amotoki | hoangcx_: is the topic about vpnaas inclusion? | 14:54 |
| jlibosva | we have 5 mins left :) | 14:55 |
| hoangcx_ | amotoki: Yes. Let's discuss about it in neutron channel | 14:55 |
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| amotoki | my understanding is that l3 agent extension is the last point | 14:55 |
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| amotoki | and I think we can discuss it once it lands successfully | 14:56 |
| amotoki | hoangcx_: ack | 14:56 |
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| jlibosva | any quick topic before we're at the top of the hour? | 14:57 |
| jlibosva | ok, thanks everyone for joining and see you online :) | 14:57 |
| jlibosva | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 10 14:57:52 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-10-10-14.00.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-10-10-14.00.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-10-10-14.00.log.html | 14:57 |
| davidsha | Thanks, cya! | 14:57 |
| amotoki | thanks, bye | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:58 |
| annp | thanks, see you | 14:58 |
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| ralonsoh | hello | 15:00 |
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| ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 10 15:00:57 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | hi there | 15:01 |
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| davidsha | Hi | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:01 |
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| ralonsoh | slaweq is not going to join us today | 15:01 |
| reedip_ | o/ | 15:01 |
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| ralonsoh | let's go | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 15:02 |
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| reedip_ | mlavalle : you should just stay on .. I think you have another meeting or two in this channel today ?? :O | 15:02 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | ok | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649517 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649517 in neutron "qos policy attached to network, qos_policy_id is reflecting on neutron net-show , but not on the port with neutron port-show" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | reedip_: this code is almost done | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | will you have time to address the comments? | 15:03 |
| reedip_ | I will ... | 15:03 |
| davidsha | There is an issue with pep8 atm though | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | I know | 15:04 |
| reedip_ | dont know why it is failing | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | I'll take a look at this today | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419642/ | 15:04 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, next one | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1596611 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596611 in neutron "[RFE] Create L3 IPs with qos (rate limit)" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | Two patches | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453458/ | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | The code is done, just to be reviewed by cores | 15:05 |
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| ralonsoh | this is the TC wrapper | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | and the second one, the qos FIP API | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424466/ | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | I need to take a second look to this patch (and everyone) this week | 15:06 |
| reedip_ | ralonsoh : done | 15:06 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, now DSCP marks and ECN | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | and | 15:07 |
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| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1692951 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1692951 in neutron "[RFE] DSCP mark on the outer header" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | alisanhaji, reedip_: did you find a solution to join both specs? | 15:07 |
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| alisanhaji | I think these were not the issue, the DSCP one is separate from ECN | 15:08 |
| reedip_ | ralonsoh : alisanhaji : you want to say it ? | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | sorry, this one | 15:08 |
| alisanhaji | It was rather between two ECN RFEs | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1708460 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,New] | 15:08 |
| reedip_ | :) | 15:08 |
| reedip_ | ralonsoh : no issues :) | 15:08 |
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| alisanhaji | yes :) | 15:08 |
| alisanhaji | well, we think that those can still be two implementations in two steps | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | which ones? | 15:09 |
| alisanhaji | the first one is reedip's which can react make the VMs activate ECN | 15:09 |
| reedip_ | as per the discussion which we had, ralonsoh , the ECN one which I proposed with vikram would be the a subset of alisanhaji's proposal | 15:09 |
| reedip_ | the ECN proposal from my side wont have VM controls on it. alisanhaji's proposal would have it | 15:10 |
| alisanhaji | then this one "[RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" cqn be a second step where neutron automatically react to congestion when VMs do not do it themselves | 15:10 |
| ralonsoh | perfect! so first you need to make VMs and backend aware to ECN | 15:11 |
| reedip_ | yep | 15:11 |
| alisanhaji | yep | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | then implement the ECN logic | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | I'll copy this in the etherpad, thanks!! | 15:11 |
| reedip_ | yes, so we can have both in parallel and merge them once they are independently functional ... alisanhaji , thats sounds ok ? | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | so let's work on reedip_'s spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445762/ | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | reedip_: yes, you can. But you should focus on enabling ECN first | 15:12 |
| reedip_ | waiting for your comments, guys :) | 15:12 |
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| ralonsoh | reedip_: ACK | 15:12 |
| alisanhaji | yes we can first focus in making the VMs work | 15:13 |
| alisanhaji | with ECN then add extra functionalities | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | alisanhaji, reedip_ : thanks guys! Let's push ASAP the ECN spec | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | reedip_: I'll review your spec this week | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | but try to take core reviewers to it | 15:13 |
| reedip_ | thanks ralonsoh : mlavalle , some inputs from you would also be appreciated :) | 15:14 |
| alisanhaji | so for the DSCP RFE https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1692951 | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1692951 in neutron "[RFE] DSCP mark on the outer header" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | ok, let's move to the last spec | 15:15 |
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| alisanhaji | ralonsoh: I see that you rebased | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | oh, yes, sorry | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | first this one | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1692951 | 15:15 |
| alisanhaji | after slaweq_ reviews, I merged the LB with the OVS review | 15:15 |
| alisanhaji | I think I can abandon the LB one | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501267/ | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | why? | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | why are you abandon the LB? | 15:16 |
| alisanhaji | Because it's merged with the OVS one | 15:17 |
| alisanhaji | this the LB one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501271/ | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | oh..... sorry | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | yes, you should abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501271/ | 15:17 |
| alisanhaji | It's not relevant anymore | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | and focus on LB+OVS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501267/ | 15:17 |
| alisanhaji | done | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | you have +1 from slaweq. I'll review this patch today | 15:18 |
| alisanhaji | The OVS+LB one needs more reviews | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | btw, I'll add a comment in the LB patch | 15:18 |
| alisanhaji | great thanks | 15:18 |
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| ralonsoh | alisanhaji: thank you! | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | ok, last RFE | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:20 |
| alisanhaji | :) | 15:20 |
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| ralonsoh | I'm doing the spec in parallel to Nova spec | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | So I'm mainly waiting for Nova spec comments to finish Neutron one | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | I reviewed both on Friday I think | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | and that's all... for now. Next 19 is Nova spec freeze so I need to hurry up | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | mlavalle: yes | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | did you push a ew revision after that? | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | now we have an "issue" | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | new^^^ | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | about how to nest resources: HOST->AGENTS->PHYNETS | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | or | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | HOST->PHYSNETS | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | sean-k-mooney is going to add new comments in Nova side | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | I think he did | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | already | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | earlier today | 15:22 |
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| ralonsoh | mlavalle: now I see them. I'll start addressing the comments at the end of this meeting | 15:23 |
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| mlavalle | let's keep in mind that we need to get this spec approved by Thursday of nxt week | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | and that's all in the agenda for RFEs | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | I know... | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | this is my first priority, for sure | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | I'll ping Jay, Sean, Matt and Eric to have this one reviewed | 15:24 |
| jaypipes | ralonsoh: in my queue. | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | jaypipes: thanks!! | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | Any other topic in RFE section? | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | let's move to bugs | 15:26 |
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| ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 15:26 |
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| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1720077 | 15:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1720077 in neutron "Quality of Service (QoS) , document is critical error" [Undecided,Incomplete] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:26 |
| ralonsoh | IMO, this bug is invalid | 15:26 |
| reedip_ | but it states "critical" :) | 15:26 |
| ralonsoh | the configuration options in docs section are correct, as I explain in the bug | 15:26 |
| ralonsoh | I think @silently is mixing controller/network/compute node concept | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | I replied in the bug | 15:27 |
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| ralonsoh | and I tested it (with QoS config options explained in manuals) and worked fine | 15:28 |
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| ralonsoh | I markef this as incomplete | 15:28 |
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| ralonsoh | next one | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1702637 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1702637 in neutron "API requests give different results from examples" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:28 |
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| ralonsoh | I didn't have time to review this one | 15:29 |
| ralonsoh | reedip_: do you have time to take a look? | 15:29 |
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| ralonsoh | reedip_: only if you can | 15:29 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll try to ping reedip_ a bit later | 15:30 |
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| ralonsoh | last one | 15:30 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1628533 | 15:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1628533 in neutron "agent file name unclear in config qos doc" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Boden R (boden) | 15:30 |
| ralonsoh | the code is almost done, with several +2 | 15:30 |
| ralonsoh | so no problem with this one | 15:30 |
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| ralonsoh | just a doc change | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | and that's all for today! | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Open Discussion | 15:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:31 | |
| ralonsoh | Do you have any other topic? | 15:32 |
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| reedip_ | ralonsoh : will do | 15:32 |
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| ralonsoh | reedip_: thanks!! | 15:32 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, let's go back to work hehehe | 15:33 |
| davidsha | Thanks! | 15:33 |
| ralonsoh | see you in two weeks | 15:33 |
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| ralonsoh | and thank you for the drivers meeting time change | 15:33 |
| ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 15:34 |
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| ralonsoh | bye | 15:34 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 10 15:34:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-10-10-15.00.html | 15:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-10-10-15.00.txt | 15:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-10-10-15.00.log.html | 15:34 |
| davidsha | cya | 15:34 |
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| reedip_ | we have a QoS forum discussion for Sydney | 15:34 |
| reedip_ | just for information | 15:34 |
| reedip_ | there maybe a voting soon... so | 15:34 |
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| mlavalle | ralonsoh: I was thinking about folks in Europe and other places when we changed the metting. Glad you guys like it | 15:35 |
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| reedip_ | o/ | 15:35 |
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| ralonsoh | mlavalle: sure! and BTW, the BW spec (Nova and Neutron) is my first priority. I'll have Nova one approved next week | 15:36 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 10 16:00:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 16:00 |
| slaweq | hello | 16:00 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, nice to see you joining | 16:00 |
| ihrachys | #topic Action items from prev week | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from prev week (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| ihrachys | first was "haleyb to update grafana board with new job names" | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
| jlibosva | \o | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, where do we stand on grafana? | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | I think since they reverted to v2.5, we were thinking about having two boards for both? | 16:02 |
| haleyb | ihrachys: i have a test patch but need to get feedback, still don't know what the layout will be with zuulv3 | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509291/ ? | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | whose feedback do you seek? I presume infra? | 16:03 |
| haleyb | right, but i don't see stats for those on the collection tree | 16:03 |
| * haleyb tries to think of that page | 16:03 | |
| ihrachys | clarkb, whom should talk to about where to get stats for new zuul job failures? | 16:03 |
| haleyb | http://graphite.openstack.org/ | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | seems like only old jobs are in graphite | 16:03 |
| clarkb | ihrachys: jeblair is probably the best person to ask | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | clarkb: could you give us some feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509291/? | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | lol, clarkb you were listening | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | thanks. haleyb could you follow up with jeblair on the matter? I think he hangs out in #openstack-infra | 16:04 |
| clarkb | I know there were some initial firewall issues but I thought those got sorted out, but possible we aren't allowing the new job stats through yet | 16:04 |
| clarkb | pabelanger is probably the other person to ask as I think he was working on the firewall bits | 16:05 |
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| haleyb | yes, i'll follow-up since we'll need them starting tomorrow | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, what's tomorrow? | 16:05 |
| * ihrachys is out of touch lately | 16:05 | |
| haleyb | zuulv3 #2, so the neutron dashboard will stop reporting | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | they switch back tomorrow? | 16:06 |
| jeblair | https://review.openstack.org/510580 is needed for v3 job stats | 16:06 |
| jeblair | i think folks have considered that low-priority, but if it's a big impact for you, i can escalate it | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | jeblair, great! is it reasonable to expect it to land before the switch? | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: yeap | 16:06 |
| jeblair | ihrachys: if you need it, i think so, yes | 16:06 |
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| pabelanger | I can review here shortly | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | jeblair, yeah, we would like to have stats when switch occurs. the previous time we switched, we had problems determining where we are | 16:07 |
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| ihrachys | thanks folks, we appreciate all the work and quick response | 16:07 |
| haleyb | jeblair: thanks, when that merges should graphite now have the new job stats? | 16:07 |
| jeblair | ihrachys: ok. i'll push on it. that updates the docs too, so you should be able to construct the new statsd keys you'll need to update the grafana boards | 16:07 |
| jeblair | haleyb: after we restart zuul with it. probably some time today. | 16:07 |
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| haleyb | great, thanks! | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, seems like you'll need to change queries a bit | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | I guess we can do that in parallel to the infra patch being reviewed/merged | 16:08 |
| haleyb | yes, and i can update the FAQ since others might want to know | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | cool | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | this was the only AI from the prev meeting | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | #topic zuulv3 preparations | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "zuulv3 preparations (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:09 | |
| ihrachys | the prev meeting, we were in fire drill mode because v3 was enabled and resulted in a havoc | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | we started this etherpad back then to understand what fails: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-zuulv3-grievances | 16:10 |
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| ihrachys | and we had people assigned to investigate each repo/branch | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | since then we switched back to 2.5 so it was not as pressing | 16:10 |
| boden | well v3 is coming back online tomorrow | 16:11 |
| boden | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123337.html | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | and it seems like with the switch back, we lost ability to trigger results for zuulv3 | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | boden, yeah, haleyb told that ^ | 16:11 |
| boden | oh sorry | 16:11 |
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| ihrachys | clarkb, I think the plan was to be able to trigger zuul results no? they would just be non-voting | 16:11 |
| boden | I don’t want to speak of others, but I was seeing Zuul results (non gating), but as of late I only see Jenkins… maybe I’m missing something, so I recently submitted a test patch for lib | 16:13 |
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| clarkb | ihrachys: we did a soft rollback of v3 so v2.5 and v3 have been running together and both reporting on changes | 16:13 |
| clarkb | ihrachys: the idea was you'd use the results during the last week or so to continue debugging | 16:13 |
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| ihrachys | clarkb, I don't think I saw any Zuul results since rollback | 16:13 |
| clarkb | jenkins votes are from v2, zuul results are v3 | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | I was told it's long queue | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | but I haven't seen it in a week anyway | 16:13 |
| clarkb | ihrachys: it is, but it is processing them | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | so projects didn't have a chance to fix anything really | 16:14 |
| clarkb | you can query label:Verified,zuul or something to see where it has voted in gerrit | 16:14 |
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| clarkb | ihrachys: I'm not sure that is the case, many projects have been able to debug and fix things aiui including tripleo | 16:14 |
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| ihrachys | we sent a bunch of 'sentinel' patches for different branches and projects, and couldn't get anything | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | examples: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509251/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502564/ | 16:15 |
| boden | and also for neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493280/ | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | and boden seems to confirm that | 16:15 |
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| boden | yes… I did see Zuul results for a few days, but not as of the last few days | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | I saw last results on the day of the rollback | 16:16 |
| clarkb | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron+label:Verified%252Czuul is an example query | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | before we started pushing sentinels | 16:16 |
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| ihrachys | clarkb, ok I guess it was unrealistic to expect it to trigger at patches we sent | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | is it that slow | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | ? | 16:17 |
| clarkb | ihrachys: I think its ~30 hours behind right now (it has 20% of our node capacity right now) | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | well we definitely sent those the previous Tue | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | maybe some restart caught us in between and reset queues | 16:18 |
| clarkb | as jeblair mentioned above there have also been restarts to ddress problems as fixes have come in so things may have been caught by that as well | 16:18 |
| clarkb | but its definitely voting on some neutron change sbased on that query at least | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | ok gotcha | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | folks, let's revisit repos/branches assigned to each of us before tomorrow | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | I mean as in the list at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-zuulv3-grievances | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:20 |
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| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:20 |
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| ihrachys | I see periodic ryu job failed the last time it executed | 16:21 |
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| jlibosva | I was thinking whether we should put to grafana longer time than 24 hours as it's run once per day then we have binary data in grafana | 16:21 |
| jlibosva | if that's even possible | 16:22 |
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| jlibosva | like a week, so we would have 7 samples instead of one in periodic graph | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | I think it makes sense. | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | I see some boards use 12hours instead of 24hours | 16:23 |
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| ihrachys | dunno if we can go higher though | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | but it's an argument to movingAverage function | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | http://graphite.readthedocs.io/en/latest/functions.html#graphite.render.functions.movingAverage | 16:25 |
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| jlibosva | I thought it's asPercentage | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | seems like it allows different scales, and if nothing else, we can have "number N of datapoints" | 16:25 |
| jlibosva | asPercent* | 16:25 |
| jlibosva | ah no, you're right :) | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, wanna send the patch? | 16:26 |
| jlibosva | yep | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to expand grafana window for periodics | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | I briefly checked the ryu failure, it does seem like a regular volume tempest issue: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-tempest-dsvm-neutron-with-ryu-master-ubuntu-xenial/b36a348/console.html | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | other than that, we have scenarios and fullstack that we'll discuss separately | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | anything else related to grafana in general? | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | #topic Scenario jobs | 16:28 |
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| ihrachys | anilvenkata was working on router migration failures lately | 16:29 |
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| ihrachys | a bunch of fixes landed | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | we are landing the hopefully final test-only fix here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500384/ | 16:29 |
| jlibosva | big kudos to anilvenkata | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | Anil also suggested initially that we may need to enable ARP responder when in DVR mode: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510090/ because he experienced some ARPs lost in the gate, but seems like it should work either way. | 16:30 |
| haleyb | anilvenkata++ | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | we will revisit the state of the job in next days and see if this piece is complete | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | there are still other failures in the job, as can be seen in: http://logs.openstack.org/90/510090/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-scenario-ubuntu-xenial-nv/a2d5341/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:31 |
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| ihrachys | haleyb, re east-west test failures, it seems like some other case of FIP not configured/not available | 16:32 |
| haleyb | ihrachys: yes, or an arp issue | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, I think it makes sense to bring it up at l3team meeting | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | since I believe it fails consistently | 16:33 |
| haleyb | i'll put it on our agenda | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | we don't have a bug reported for that failure, so that could be a good start | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | thanks! | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | the second failure is related to trunk ports | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | we don't seem to have a bug for that either | 16:34 |
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| ihrachys | armax, are you available to have a look at the trunk scenario failure? | 16:34 |
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| ihrachys | seems like Armando is not there | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | he might not be around | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | yeah | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | I will report the bug and if someone has cycles to triage would be great, for I don' | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | *don't | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to report bug for trunk scenario failure | 16:37 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:38 |
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| ihrachys | one of failures there are also trunk related | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | armax has this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504186/ | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | but it sits in W-1 for a while already | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | almost a month | 16:39 |
| jlibosva | I also started slowly filling https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fullstack-issues | 16:39 |
| jlibosva | the switch to rwd causes lots of issues | 16:39 |
| * jlibosva looks for an LP bug | 16:39 | |
| ihrachys | rwd? | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1654287 | 16:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1654287 in oslo.rootwrap "rootwrap daemon may return output of previous command" [Undecided,New] | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | rootwrap daemon | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | not rewind ;) | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, aha. so that's what happens? I think we saw that with the issue that slaweq was dealing with where sysctl failed with netns error | 16:41 |
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| jlibosva | so I sent out a patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510161/ | 16:41 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: yeah, it's tricky :) | 16:41 |
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| jlibosva | but reviewers have good points there | 16:41 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: yes, as I'm reading this bug now, it explains me why this issue with namespaces is happening | 16:41 |
| * ihrachys is stunned John reviewed that | 16:42 | |
| * ihrachys checks the calendar date | 16:42 | |
| jlibosva | we hit that issue in the past, so when I saw one command had netstat output, it rang a bell | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | no, it's indeed 2017 | 16:42 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: yeah, he was also on irc :D | 16:42 |
| jlibosva | so my question also is, beside upstream nodes are not configuring sudo, is there any other reason to use rootwrap? | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | that was the only one I had | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | but is it happening in the tester threads only? | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | we can exercise rootwrap only how production code uses it while testrunner could still use sudo, presuming we configure it correctly in the job | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | so far I have never seen it in production code | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | as we use wait_until_true usually to wait for some resource to be ready in the tests | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | in production we use it only in ipv6 prefix delegation | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | it == wait_until_true | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | but it's in neutron/common/utils.py so could be used outside | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | and wait_until_true and rootwradp daemon are not freinds | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | but now they are right? | 16:45 |
| jlibosva | so maybe we should consider moving it to tests dir, document it's not nice to use it with rwd - or fix rwd | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | with the patch | 16:45 |
| jlibosva | it's not 100% reproducible | 16:45 |
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| ihrachys | isn't the fullstack issue one that hits us rather regularly? | 16:46 |
| ihrachys | the one where we fail to create netns | 16:46 |
| slaweq | it was/is quite common reason of failures AFAIK | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | one I saw was when allocating port - http://logs.openstack.org/67/488567/2/check/gate-neutron-dsvm-fullstack-ubuntu-xenial/eb8f9a3/testr_results.html.gz | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | I will need to read through the comments to understand why it's not an ideal solution | 16:49 |
| jlibosva | we can move on and discuss next steps on LP - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1721796 | 16:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721796 in neutron "wait_until_true is not rootwrap daemon friendly" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar) | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | that being said, you think we can have it anyway? or we should work on smth else? | 16:49 |
| jlibosva | Ideally we should fix oslo rootwrap | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | I know what they will tell us :) | 16:50 |
| jlibosva | I think dalvarez attempted to fix it in the past, I'm not sure it would be possible though | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | 'use oslo.privsep' | 16:50 |
| jlibosva | well, if we could have an execute() with privsep, that would solve the issues | 16:51 |
| jlibosva | that's a good point | 16:51 |
| jlibosva | to use privsep :) | 16:51 |
| jlibosva | I haven't thought about it | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | it's not about execute, it's about executables that we trigger. you can't solve it with a single patch. and I am not even sure why would we, realistically. | 16:51 |
| jlibosva | we have 8 minutes :) | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | ok ok | 16:52 |
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| ihrachys | apart from that, anything interesting about fullstack? how's your work to switch to 'containers' for services going? | 16:52 |
| jlibosva | I have "something" that is not done | 16:52 |
| jlibosva | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506722/ | 16:53 |
| jlibosva | fighting with rootwrap filters, that's the last thing I looked at | 16:53 |
| jlibosva | I think I haven't touched it last week | 16:53 |
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| jlibosva | but I have one thing I wanted to discuss regarding fullstack | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | shoot | 16:53 |
| jlibosva | when I was going through failing tests, I noticed some of them are stable-ish | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | as in 'always fail'? | 16:54 |
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| jlibosva | so I had an idea that we could divide tests into stable and under-work | 16:54 |
| jlibosva | no, as they pass :) | 16:54 |
| jlibosva | so we would run all tests, but collect results only from picked ones | 16:54 |
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| jlibosva | then we would have stable fullstack and we could make it voting, to make sure those stable are not broken again | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | I think most are stable now. it's the same bunch that fails, more or less. so maybe go with a blacklist instead? | 16:55 |
| jlibosva | while we could work on stabilizing those 'under-work' which wouldn't affect the jenkins vote | 16:55 |
| jlibosva | or result of testr | 16:55 |
| jlibosva | right, we'd have something like a blacklist tests that won't affect exit code of test runner | 16:56 |
| jlibosva | so if they fail, they are skipped. if they pass, they pass | 16:56 |
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| ihrachys | I agree with having it. we could even disable them completely if we have a bug reported. | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | then whoever works on the fix, removes it from the list | 16:57 |
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| jlibosva | well, disabling them would not make them run and hence provide ways to debug | 16:57 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, send a patch that removes it from the list - you have the way to debug no? | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | or you need data points? | 16:57 |
| jlibosva | but then you'd need to recheck, recheck, recheck | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | ok gotcha | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | I think there was a decorator to mark a case to not affect result | 16:58 |
| jlibosva | nice | 16:58 |
| jlibosva | that's what I was thinking about :) | 16:58 |
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| ihrachys | xfail | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | https://docs.pytest.org/en/latest/skipping.html | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | so, do you want to start the list? I think we can find inspiration in how we did it back when we worked on py3 | 16:59 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: but then if it will not fail once, it will "impact" result probably | 16:59 |
| jlibosva | we don't use pytest though | 16:59 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, as long as we report a bug per disabled/ignored test, I am fine | 16:59 |
| jlibosva | #action jlibosva to look how failing tests can not affect results | 17:00 |
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| jlibosva | ok | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | we need to wrap up | 17:00 |
| jlibosva | I made an AI for myself | 17:00 |
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| ihrachys | ok :) | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | thanks folks | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 10 17:00:29 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-10-10-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-10-10-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| jlibosva | thanks, bye | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-10-10-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| slaweq | bye | 17:00 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 10 18:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ^ agenda | 18:00 |
| spilla | o/ | 18:00 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar ping! | 18:00 |
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| gagehugo | o/ | 18:00 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 18:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | #topic announcements: queens deadline dates | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements: queens deadline dates (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:02 | |
| lbragstad | this is the current schedule for queens | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | i've proposed a patch to add deadlines for keystone | 18:02 |
| samueldmq | o/ | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | which is pretty much a copy paste of all deadlines we used in pike | 18:02 |
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| lamt | o/ | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509835/ | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | one thing to note is that feature proposal freeze happens over the christmas holiday | 18:03 |
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| lbragstad | i'm curious to get feedback here if we want to bump it a week earlier or later (pending new years, too) | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | thoughts? | 18:04 |
| hrybacki | is everyone taking holiday/shutdown over that period? | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | in my experience, things are pretty quiet that week | 18:04 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: ++ | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | (i don't plan to take much time off over the holiday though) | 18:04 |
| samueldmq | I guess we can do it one week early as proposed now | 18:04 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: aye, then I'd say we push it to the left so we encourage to get stuff done early | 18:04 |
| hrybacki | samueldmq+1 | 18:04 |
| gagehugo | hrybacki ++ | 18:04 |
| samueldmq | and if we get something that really needs more time, we can do an exception for it | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | yeah - and it's feature *proposal* freeze | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | not feature freeze | 18:05 |
| hrybacki | +1 | 18:05 |
| samueldmq | exactly. I am fine with that, looks good to me | 18:05 |
| * cmurphy does not care | 18:05 | |
| lbragstad | ok - that sounds fair | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | i'll wip that patch and propose the deadline a week earlier | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to bump deadline in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509835/ to not be christmas week | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | other than that, does anyone have suggestions for deadlines? | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | or was everyone relatively happy with the deadlines we had for pike | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | (if not, please don't hesitate to speak up!) | 18:06 |
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| gagehugo | the other deadlines looked fine imo | 18:07 |
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| lbragstad | i think we've had pretty consistent deadline structure for the last few releases, but i want to make sure we have the opportunity to adjust if folks think it's necessary | 18:08 |
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| lbragstad | if that's the case, leave a comment on the review | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | #topic announcement: aws iam policy session planning | 18:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcement: aws iam policy session planning (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:09 | |
| lbragstad | this is mostly advertising | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | but i started laying this out for tomorrow so that we can start planning a productive policy session | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | the plan is to use the policy meeting tomorrow to organize what we want out of that session | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Keystone_Policy_Meeting | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | i've also started another etherpad | 18:10 |
| hrybacki | fyi ayoung will be in training and likely off of irc tomorrow | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: ack | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: i should make a point to followup with him when he's done with training to get his cases in the etherpad | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | ideally tomorrow we'll just be figuring out what we want out of the session and organizing resources | 18:11 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: ack. He's in Raleigh for the week so he's probably quite board in the evenings and looking for things to do | 18:11 |
| * hrybacki nods | 18:12 | |
| hrybacki | bored* | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | cool - that sounds good | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | by the end of the policy meeting tomorrow, we should have a couple dates proposed, hangout prepared, action items for an AWS account, etc.. | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | if you want to see how specific things are done in AWS or GKE - feel free to add them to the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/analyzing-other-policy-systems | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/analyzing-other-policy-systems | 18:13 |
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| lbragstad | #topic announcement: trello sync | 18:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcement: trello sync (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:14 | |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/b/5F0h9Hoe/keystone | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | just fyi - i've added another column to the board as a way to show what needs review | 18:15 |
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| lbragstad | i've also been trying to keep things in sync, if i've missed something you're working on just let me know or go ahead and move it | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | s/move it/make the necessary changes/ | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | other than that - how do people feel about the release so far? | 18:17 |
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| * hrybacki hasn't been able to crawl out from his downstream hole to be of much use tbh | 18:18 | |
| cmurphy | hrybacki: hi5 o/ | 18:18 |
| * cmurphy will go review some things | 18:19 | |
| hrybacki | o/\o | 18:19 |
| gagehugo | I like the v2 removal | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | :) | 18:19 |
| samueldmq | ++ | 18:19 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: I like trello. helps keeping priorities with the team | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: good deal | 18:19 |
| gagehugo | samueldmq ++ | 18:19 |
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| samueldmq | visually friendly | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | hopefully it's helpful, i've been using it a lot | 18:20 |
| * gagehugo wishes his work board was more like trello | 18:20 | |
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| samueldmq | yes. seems like people have been doing something similar to that, but with different tools | 18:20 |
| samueldmq | in different ways | 18:20 |
| samueldmq | I used to have an etherpad. having a shared place is great | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i'm curious to try storyboard (for real) and see how similar it is, if at all | 18:20 |
| cmurphy | iirc storyboard has a similar functionality, if we wanted to move to an all-open platform ;) | 18:20 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: heh | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: ++ | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | january! | 18:21 |
| samueldmq | aha, cool. would be nice to try it out | 18:21 |
| samueldmq | we have a deployment for it in our ecosystem, right? | 18:21 |
| samueldmq | https://storyboard.openstack.org/ | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | yeah - infra manages one already | 18:21 |
| samueldmq | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/list | 18:21 |
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| lbragstad | but per the discussion at the PTG, they are still in the process of migrating projects to it | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | i guess the thing i like most about having something like trello is that it help maintain the context of everything we said we were going to do for a release | 18:22 |
| samueldmq | it has both boards and work lists ... seems interesting | 18:22 |
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| samueldmq | lbragstad: yes, establishing the process/habit of using that for tracking is far more important than the specific tool we use | 18:23 |
| samueldmq | imo | 18:23 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 18:23 |
| lbragstad | agreed | 18:23 |
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| * hrybacki nods | 18:23 | |
| lbragstad | if there's anything i can do to help facilitate upstream involvement, don't hesitate to ask | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | or if we need to reshuffle things | 18:24 |
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| lbragstad | #topic TripleO brekage -- API v2 removal post-mortem | 18:25 |
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| lbragstad | hrybacki: o/ | 18:25 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:25 |
| hrybacki | this is just more of an awarenss bit, there was a hiccup within TripleO after the removal that we didn't see in time | 18:25 |
| samueldmq | I like the topic name. v2.0 post-mortem | 18:25 |
| hrybacki | broke a lot of ci unfortunately (tripleo based) | 18:25 |
| samueldmq | hrybacki: did it get all fixed already? | 18:26 |
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| hrybacki | samueldmq: aye, there were two fixes to instack | 18:26 |
| hrybacki | and I submitted ~13 patches against the openstack puppet modules setting defaults | 18:26 |
| samueldmq | hrybacki: what is instack? | 18:26 |
| hrybacki | some had already ported to v3 | 18:26 |
| samueldmq | hrybacki: cool, thanks for that. | 18:26 |
| hrybacki | samueldmq: it's what prepares the undercloud for a tripleo deployment | 18:27 |
| * samueldmq nods | 18:27 | |
| hrybacki | aforementioned change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510535/ | 18:27 |
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| hrybacki | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1721366 was the main bug for tracking | 18:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721366 in tripleo "Keystone v2.0 APIs have been removed, TripleO config is incomplete" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to yatin (yatinkarel) | 18:27 |
| hrybacki | only question I have is, could we have communicated this change betteR? | 18:27 |
| hrybacki | that was all I had lbragstad | 18:28 |
| samueldmq | didn't we send ML annoucements? warnings? | 18:28 |
| samueldmq | depreaction notices? | 18:28 |
| hrybacki | samueldmq: we did. I honestly don't think people believed it would get yanked | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | yeah - deprecation notices are standard and usually the first line | 18:29 |
| hrybacki | it was deprecated for a long time. <-- might be something to keep in mind | 18:29 |
| cmurphy | did we send mailing list announcements though? | 18:29 |
| samueldmq | maybe some projects just did not realize how much of a change that was | 18:29 |
| samueldmq | and it's a very uncommon change in OpenStack | 18:29 |
| lbragstad | i think we sent a ML thread - let me dig it up | 18:29 |
| hrybacki | cmurphy: I thought we did. At a minimum I know it was in Lance and others' PTG summary/blogs | 18:29 |
| samueldmq | I was not surprised someone got bitten, unfortunately | 18:30 |
| hrybacki | cmurphy you have my vote btw -- happy to see your name on email earlier | 18:30 |
| cmurphy | hrybacki: haha ty | 18:30 |
| hrybacki | samueldmq: same. Lots of moving parts. Was a slap in my face when the RH prod line broke for 36 hours though =/ | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | i did send this a while ago | 18:31 |
| kmalloc | we knew v2 was likely to break things. | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | to both operators and -dev | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113166.html | 18:32 |
| kmalloc | this is why we telegraphed so far in advance | 18:32 |
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| kmalloc | the fact that things still broke shows that the community was not paying attention | 18:32 |
| kmalloc | it happens | 18:32 |
| kmalloc | but some projects def. were not attentive on this front. | 18:32 |
| edmondsw | I heard that trove is also still using keystone v2 | 18:33 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: that's not a "THIS IS HAPPENING ON $RELEASE" it's a gentle poking that it might happen soon | 18:33 |
| kmalloc | the TC acceptance of removal was on a very clear timeline | 18:33 |
| edmondsw | the trove guys agreed that they need to move to v3, though, so I hope they are just working on that | 18:33 |
| lbragstad | true - digging to see if another one was sent | 18:33 |
| samueldmq | the subject should be : "BE PREPARED: REMOVE OF THE V2.0 API!!!!", not "Removal of the v2.0 API" | 18:34 |
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| samueldmq | REMOVAL* :-) | 18:34 |
| cmurphy | it's also not tagged [all] | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | yeah - that could have been tagged/messaged better | 18:35 |
| cmurphy | i think this is something we can do better at for v4 :) | 18:35 |
| samueldmq | cmurphy: ++ those could have been points we could've improved | 18:35 |
| samueldmq | I agree. not like the fault is only of our message, but could have been slightly better | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | yeah - that's on me | 18:35 |
| samueldmq | we did our best | 18:35 |
| kmalloc | v3 will not be removed, even if we have v45 | 18:36 |
| kmalloc | v4* | 18:36 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: s/me/us/ | 18:36 |
| samueldmq | and communicated early. we've been talking about removing it a lot | 18:36 |
| samueldmq | cmurphy: ++ | 18:36 |
| kmalloc | v2.0 was removed for a lot of reasons. | 18:36 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: that's on the group as a whole :) I know at least once I asked myself if we'd properly informed the community after the fact | 18:36 |
| kmalloc | this is not likely to ever happen again | 18:36 |
| kmalloc | at least not as long as I expect ot be working on openstack | 18:36 |
| lbragstad | but - we could take the same precaution with similar situations (like when we remove the uuid token provider) | 18:36 |
| lbragstad | or sql persistence layer | 18:37 |
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| samueldmq | that's why we talk about it now. let's make sure we do it better next time | 18:37 |
| lbragstad | those would be good examples of where we could exercise that level of verbosity | 18:37 |
| samueldmq | whenever we need to communicate such a change | 18:37 |
| kmalloc | we have done those removals before | 18:37 |
| kmalloc | less of an issue | 18:37 |
| kmalloc | pki/pkiz/etc | 18:37 |
| kmalloc | this was a public facing api, that is a *big* deal | 18:37 |
| hrybacki | we aren't doing any harm by being communicative regardless of the impact of a change | 18:38 |
| kmalloc | if devstack is configured sanely, and puppet/ansible gets the changes, we are fine | 18:38 |
| kmalloc | we communicate it, but honestly, i don't think we could have handled v2.0 better | 18:38 |
| kmalloc | it's been telegraphed we are removing this for... years | 18:38 |
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| lbragstad | i would say that we definitely took measures to stay in touch with defcore/refstack/tc though (thanks kmalloc!) | 18:39 |
| samueldmq | ++ | 18:39 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: puppet at least was caught off guard for some things, that's what causes the tripleo breakage | 18:39 |
| hrybacki | aye, that was probably the problem. We told folks it was happening but should have told them that it /did/ happen | 18:39 |
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| kmalloc | cmurphy: we cannot expect to personally reach out to ever single team. | 18:39 |
| hrybacki | cmurphy: and mistral (ptg fire drill) | 18:39 |
| lbragstad | aha - that's right | 18:40 |
| kmalloc | we used ML, we used TC, we used deprecation warnings | 18:40 |
| kmalloc | we used devstack, etc. | 18:40 |
| kmalloc | we used IRC. there is only so far we can go. | 18:41 |
| samueldmq | yeah, if we did something wrong, we still did it all 99% right | 18:41 |
| samueldmq | so we did a great job, maybe not perfect, but still great | 18:42 |
| lbragstad | so - question | 18:42 |
| lbragstad | outside of API removals (which are super rare) what classifies as needing verbose ML threads to -dev and -operators | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | ? | 18:43 |
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| hrybacki | a good question | 18:43 |
| samueldmq | to operators, change of defaults | 18:43 |
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| lbragstad | so changing configuration options or policy defaults | 18:44 |
| lbragstad | removal of driver support? | 18:44 |
| kmalloc | change of defaults, deprecation of features/backends, removal(s) | 18:44 |
| samueldmq | yes, like anything that might affect what they may run today upon upgrade | 18:45 |
| edmondsw | lbragstad FYI, it already merged but I just added a few more comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500141 that bear consideration | 18:45 |
| edmondsw | around exactly this | 18:45 |
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| lbragstad | edmondsw: thanks! | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | sounds like we agreed on the need to be more verbose when advertising removals on mailing lists | 18:48 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: anything else you want to work through? | 18:49 |
| hrybacki | nope, thanks all! | 18:49 |
| lbragstad | cool | 18:49 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:49 |
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| lbragstad | and the floor is open | 18:49 |
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| cmurphy | do we have forum topics for sydney? | 18:50 |
| gagehugo | cmurphy was just gonna ask that haha | 18:50 |
| lbragstad | we do - i submitted at least three proposals | 18:50 |
| gagehugo | also do we have a "keystone project update" thing for sydney as well? | 18:50 |
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| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-keystone-forum-sessions | 18:51 |
| lbragstad | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ | 18:52 |
| lbragstad | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/36 | 18:52 |
| lbragstad | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/37 | 18:52 |
| lbragstad | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/39 | 18:52 |
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| gagehugo | ah still unreviewed | 18:53 |
| hrybacki | eek, I take it back. Things are still using the v2 api: https://logs.rdoproject.org/openstack-periodic-4hr/periodic-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-1ctlr_1comp-featureset020-master/28b28c1/undercloud/var/log/nova/nova-compute.log.txt.gz#_2017-10-10_18_07_36_272 | 18:53 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: that must be coming up in a job? | 18:55 |
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| hrybacki | lbragstad: aye it is. But we've already tracked it down to an issue within puppet-nova -- patch en route | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | nice | 18:56 |
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| lbragstad | cool - office hours starting in just a few minutes | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 10 18:58:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-10-18.00.html | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-10-18.00.txt | 18:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-10-18.00.log.html | 18:58 |
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| clarkb | hello infra team | 19:00 |
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| clarkb | anyone around for a meeting? I think we'll have a proper meeting today rathe rthan a short make sure nothing slipped meeting like the last couple | 19:00 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
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| tobiash | o/ | 19:01 |
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| SotK | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 10 19:01:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| fungi | ooh, meetins | 19:02 |
| clarkb | we'll talk about this more later but | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123337.html Zuulv3 Back to Production | 19:02 |
| * mordred waves | 19:02 | |
| clarkb | Zuulv3 will be going back to managing the gate tomorrow | 19:03 |
| clarkb | The other item I wanted ot call out is that TC nominations are happening now | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | They end at 23:45UTC today (whihc is about 5 hours and 40 minutes from now | 19:03 |
| clarkb | if you intend on running don't forget to get nominated. Also good luck to those of you already running | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-03-19.01.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | last meeting was quite a bit more informal. Just wanted to make sure we weren't letting other important items slip while we were preoccupied with zuul | 19:05 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509257/ mark gerrit upgrade as complete | 19:06 |
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| clarkb | I plan to merge ^ later today if there aren't any objections. | 19:06 |
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| clarkb | Other than that I think we've mostly been swamped with zuul related things the last couple weeks which takes us to | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:07 | |
| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zuul v3 (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:07 | |
| clarkb | as mentioned earlier the plan is to put this back in production tomorrow as our gate keeper | 19:07 |
| jeblair | i've been cleaning up: | 19:08 |
| jeblair | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3-issues | 19:08 |
| jeblair | so that we can continue to use it to help firefighting tomorrow | 19:08 |
| fungi | much cleaner! | 19:08 |
| jeblair | it has pretty clear sections now -- triage, job issues, zuul issues | 19:08 |
| jeblair | also fixed issues | 19:08 |
| jeblair | our list of fixed issues from the past week is *REALLY LONG* yay! | 19:09 |
| jeblair | so i moved it to | 19:09 |
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| jeblair | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv3-fixed-issues | 19:09 |
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| jeblair | basically, i think it's good to keep fixed issues on the main etherpad for a little while, for communication purposes | 19:09 |
| jeblair | but we didn't need all those there, so that's a place they can retire to | 19:10 |
| jeblair | i plan to restart zuul with a bunch of fixes soon | 19:10 |
| jeblair | i think those are the main things for folks to know? | 19:10 |
| mordred | \o/ | 19:10 |
| mordred | yah. things seem WAY better now | 19:11 |
| clarkb | Earlier this morning there seemed to be ocnfusion around what projects should/can be doing nowish to prepare | 19:11 |
| jeblair | i'll roll the repartition into the restart too | 19:11 |
| clarkb | might be good to send another email nowish explaining the general procss for not infra? | 19:11 |
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| mordred | clarkb: agree - I can take a stab at writing that if that's helpful | 19:13 |
| clarkb | mordred: that would be great | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: and I guess just need reviewers to keep going through that list of reviews at the top of the etherpad? | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: yeah; looks like a lot of job changes showed up recently | 19:15 |
| jeblair | so there's currently more job work than system work | 19:15 |
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| fungi | i do expect we were sending some mixed messages on whether zuul -1 votes were worth looking into because of the previously semi-prevalent post_failures | 19:16 |
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| jeblair | yeah. we also plan to have some more post_failures before tomorrow as well (to help track down a bug) | 19:16 |
| jeblair | i think the message should be something like "all zuul -1 errors should at least be triaged at this point" | 19:17 |
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| fungi | and i'll admit the backlog for normal check in v3 right now is making it hard for people to know whether the previous failures are still relevant or just stale data for things we've already fixed, because rechecks are taking over a day to process | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | ya, unfortunately we had to pull a lcoud out of the rotation too so that likely is only going to get worse | 19:18 |
| jeblair | it'll get "better" in maybe 1 hour when i drop the queues | 19:18 |
| mordred | yah | 19:18 |
| jeblair | then, of course, start to get worse again | 19:18 |
| fungi | until around noon utc tomorrow | 19:18 |
| jeblair | then hopefully better again :) | 19:18 |
| ianw | heh, yeah my browser couldn't load the status page yesterday | 19:19 |
| jeblair | but at least between now and then, votes will be a little more current | 19:19 |
| Shrews | request list has more than doubled since yesterday, so it's not getting better w/o some intervention | 19:19 |
| fungi | ianw: my browser couldn't load the status page days ago, so you must have one heck of a browser | 19:19 |
| jeblair | mordred: maybe include a note about the fresh restart in the email? | 19:19 |
| jeblair | 7340 corvus 20 0 2042744 427196 64988 R 100.0 1.3 3203:13 chromium-browse | 19:20 |
| jeblair | that's my dedicated status page browser | 19:20 |
| jeblair | (i use ff for real work) | 19:20 |
| fungi | wow, nuts | 19:20 |
| jeblair | also, is unusually warm in here | 19:21 |
| fungi | are you actually able to scroll the page that way? | 19:21 |
| jeblair | not well | 19:21 |
| clarkb | how big is the check queue now? eg is it so much larger than we expect it to be nomrally? | 19:21 |
| clarkb | looks like ~1100 | 19:21 |
| clarkb | and generally we have ~300 changes in status page in total if we ignore merge-check (we aren't using it in v3) | 19:22 |
| fungi | and then there's periodic | 19:22 |
| jeblair | plus 467 in periodic | 19:22 |
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| jeblair | probably tripleo-check too | 19:22 |
| clarkb | but ya firefox 57 beta almost manages to keep up fwiw | 19:23 |
| jeblair | 121 in check-tripleo | 19:23 |
| mordred | jeblair: yah (re fresh restart) | 19:23 |
| fungi | oh, also if i'm interpreting the discussion on #-dev correctly it sounds like the dedicated tripleo pipelines might be able to go away in another week-ish? that will simplify the config somewhat | 19:23 |
| mordred | ooh. that'd be nice | 19:24 |
| jeblair | so, we'll manage through the cutover. status page improvements to come after cutover. | 19:24 |
| clarkb | might be worth explaining ^ in the update email too | 19:24 |
| clarkb | basically status page is in an exceptional state now and not expected to stay that way post cut over | 19:24 |
| jeblair | ++ | 19:24 |
| fungi | yeah, i have a feeling lots of people think the status page is entirely unusable given experiences with attempting to render the extreme backlog status data | 19:25 |
| fungi | when in actuality it'll probably be semi-usable under normal peak load | 19:25 |
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| clarkb | ok, anything else zuul related, especially cut over related? | 19:27 |
| jeblair | nak | 19:27 |
| fungi | just... you know... excited! | 19:28 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:28 |
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| fungi | and also going to bed early tonight | 19:28 |
| clarkb | I had one item for this, the new contributor portal project needs to be created | 19:28 |
| clarkb | Do we want to wait for post cutover to worry about that? | 19:28 |
| clarkb | otherwise we'll need to think carefully about running it in both versions of zuul | 19:29 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509943/ | 19:29 |
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| clarkb | thingee: if you are around, are you able to wait a couple days while we do the next zuulv3 rollout? | 19:30 |
| fungi | sounded like they're sort of pushing to announce it rsn | 19:30 |
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| clarkb | Looks like AJaeger has +2'd, I'll need to follow up with thingee and see what timeline they are operating under as Ithink my preference would be to merge the change after the v3 rerollout | 19:33 |
| clarkb | but it has configs for both versions so maybe we just merge it now as is? | 19:33 |
| clarkb | anyone have concerns with ^ | 19:33 |
| fungi | i don't object | 19:34 |
| fungi | he's done the work to set it up for v2 and v3, so i don't think we have a good reason to hold it up | 19:34 |
| jeblair | yeah, let's go for it | 19:34 |
| clarkb | ok | 19:34 |
| clarkb | I'll give it a review post meeting | 19:35 |
| clarkb | #topic Project Renames | 19:35 |
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| clarkb | I think we are actually ready to think about doing these again :) | 19:35 |
| fungi | wow, it's been a while! | 19:35 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500768 | 19:35 |
| clarkb | we have at least one rename in the pipeline | 19:35 |
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| clarkb | This week is probably bad as is week before summit travel, but there is one week between, 16th-20th where we could potentially do some renames | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | do we want to provisionally plan for the 20th, then commit to it in a week at our next meeting if we've caught up with everything else? | 19:37 |
| fungi | i don't have any atypical obligations that week, so count me in | 19:37 |
| fungi | i usually try to catch the release team meeting 15:00-16:00 on fridays, but otherwise nothing specific planned | 19:38 |
| clarkb | I've got a dentist visit and a user group talk that week on the 17th and 19th but should be able to help out on the 20th | 19:38 |
| clarkb | ok lets aim for the 20th and actually commit to it next meeting if everything else is calmer :) | 19:39 |
| clarkb | say at 1600UTC ish | 19:39 |
| fungi | wfm | 19:39 |
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| clarkb | #info plan for project renames around 1600UTC October 20 assuming we have cauhgt up on other items by then. Decide if we are ready for that in the next meeting | 19:40 |
| clarkb | #topic General Discussion | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | #undo | 19:40 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic General Discussion | 19:40 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:41 |
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| ianw | fungi: you mentioned last time wanting a hand with writing a project update? | 19:41 |
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| clarkb | Was that the summit project update? | 19:42 |
| fungi | ianw: well, wanting some volunteers to help the ptl do that anyway (which i'm also willing to help with) | 19:42 |
| clarkb | ya, I think my rough plan for that was to dig in after the zuul re roll out | 19:42 |
| mordred | how does this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OCPH0jEDn9 look for email about what people shold do? | 19:42 |
| fungi | and possibly also appearing on stage with said ptl | 19:43 |
| clarkb | as I think that will largely affect the content :) | 19:43 |
| clarkb | if you are interested in helping with that let me know and we can start drafting it up together | 19:43 |
| clarkb | (I think fungi and paul have already expressed interestg in helping, but hte more the merryier) | 19:43 |
| ianw | ok, etherpad? | 19:44 |
| clarkb | ianw: ya I think we'll start on an etherpad | 19:44 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/infra-sydney-summit-project-update <- how about that one | 19:44 |
| jeblair | mordred: lgtm, added one note under "A few notes about tomorrow" | 19:45 |
| ianw | clarkb: excellent, open in a tab right next to zuulv3-issues :) | 19:45 |
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| clarkb | Oh I've also signed us up for an onboarding session that we will share with tonyb in sydney | 19:48 |
| fungi | mordred: lgtm | 19:48 |
| clarkb | I'll likely be working off of what fungi put together for Boston in that session. If you want to help with that too let me know | 19:48 |
| clarkb | mordred: might be good to add something about please talk to us | 19:48 |
| clarkb | mordred: I think the projects that we would consider to be successful in all the transition stuff have been willing to work and talk with us directly | 19:49 |
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| mordred | clarkb: good point - adding | 19:49 |
| * clarkb gives it a couple more minutes for any last items but then everyone can go find $meal early :) | 19:51 | |
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| jlvillal | Review request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509670/ openstack-infra/os-loganalyze Support the log level "CRITICAL" | 19:52 |
| jlvillal | As it is now. If you select ERROR, then you will not see CRITICAL messages. | 19:53 |
| mordred | clarkb: how's that? | 19:53 |
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| jlvillal | Or if you basically select any log level you won't see CRITICAL messages. | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | mordred: I like that, really hte important part is communicating to help make sure we don't miss important stuff | 19:54 |
| mordred | jlvillal: oh wow - when did CRITICAL get added? | 19:54 |
| clarkb | mordred: it is apparnetly part of python logging | 19:54 |
| jlvillal | mordred: Uh, not sure. It is part of the python logging standard. | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | ok, thanks everyone. You canfind us in #openstack-infra or on the infra mailing list. Please do let us know if you have questions about the v3 rollout or see weird unexpected behavior | 19:55 |
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| clarkb | and with that | 19:55 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 10 19:55:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-10-19.01.html | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-10-19.01.txt | 19:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-10-19.01.log.html | 19:55 |
| mordred | clarkb, jlvillal - yah - I just somehow missed it being part of the logging standard :) | 19:55 |
| jlvillal | :) | 19:55 |
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