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| ekcs | time for congress meeting ramineni thinrichs masahito | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 6 00:01:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | hi thinrichs ! | 00:01 |
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| * ekcs topics are here as usual | 00:03 | |
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| masahito | hi | 00:04 |
| ekcs | gosh something happened to my IRC clietn and I can’t paste. | 00:04 |
| ekcs | well topics are at the usual place. feel free to add & comment! | 00:04 |
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| ekcs | I’ll restart my clietn and be back. | 00:04 |
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| ramineni_ | Hi | 00:06 |
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| masahito | ramineni_: hi | 00:06 |
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| ramineni_ | masahito: hi | 00:07 |
| masahito | ekcs is restarting his IRC client now. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | hey guys. sorry about the delay. Don’t know why irc client isn’t letting me paste even after several restarts. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | but let’s continue. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | please find the etherpad by following the eavesdrop line | 00:07 |
| ekcs | link | 00:07 |
| ramineni_ | Ohk | 00:07 |
| ekcs | i’ll just type it. | 00:07 |
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| ekcs | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:08 |
| ekcs | Anything else I need to paste I’ll paste in the etherpad. | 00:08 |
| ekcs | ok let’s get started then. | 00:09 |
| ekcs | feel free to add to the etherpad as we go if you have topics or comments | 00:09 |
| ekcs | #topic policy library discussion | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | let’s start with this. | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | so the implementation effort is continuing along. | 00:10 |
| ekcs | I think all the core pieces are in review. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | quite a few CLI and GUI things left. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | here’s a point of discussion we could tackle now. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | please follow the link on etherpad under policy library discussion | 00:11 |
| ekcs | regarding whether to use unique names in policy library, as well as implementation options. | 00:12 |
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| ekcs | to summarize real quick: we have the option to make policy names in library unique or not. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | Ooops—I had a comment there and forgot to publish it. If everyone refreshes they should see what I wrote. | 00:13 |
| ekcs | non-unique names enable some helpful use cases. but unique names may be simpler for users being consistent with policy engine (even though there is no technical requirement for uniqueness) | 00:13 |
| ekcs | I’m going to start talking, but go ahead and jump in with thoughts any time. | 00:14 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: in comment on gerrit you said: “” | 00:15 |
| ekcs | ugh forgot can’t paste. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | but I want to clarify that source path and rank won’d be required when a user adds policy. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | they’re hidden from the user completely. only meaningful to database. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | and they’re nullable unique fields. | 00:16 |
| ekcs | leaving aside implementation though, I think there is a question over which behavior we desire independently of implementation. | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | I see, so the ID suggestion is the same as what's there. | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | Last I remember we thought it could be valuable for the *library* to have policies with the same name, so that it would be easier to support multiple versions of the same policy. | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | For example, if the policy name were 'network', you might want one version of the policy to work with Neutron | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | and another version to work with Nova-network | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | In the library they might both have the same name 'network' so that other policies could reference them | 00:19 |
| ekcs | yup that’s a discussion we had a couple weeks ago. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | But if each library policy were required to have a unique name, people could name them 'network_nova' and 'network_neutron' | 00:20 |
| ramineni_ | While adding the policy from library to pe , how it will be handled in such case ..pe requires uniqueness | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | and then have other policies still reference 'network', with the idea that when you insert 'network_nova' or 'network_neutron' you insert them with the name 'network' | 00:20 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni_: the PE would ensure you can only insert one policy named 'network', which would be okay because they are all different versions of each other. | 00:21 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: I see it being handled the same way duplicate names are handled with a normal policy creation | 00:21 |
| ekcs | if policy named ‘a’ already exists, and user tries to import a policy named ‘a’ from library, then it fails for duplicate name. | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | What that does, however, is stop people from saying "insert all policies from the library into the PE" | 00:22 |
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| ramineni_ | And get policy with name in library | 00:22 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: right, the import all function would be complex. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: that's true—the user would need to know to reference policies differently when pulling them out of the library. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: at a baseline, user would not be able to import by name. the workflow I imagine would be | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | That feels like a usability problem | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | at least initially | 00:24 |
| ekcs | browse on horizon and select the one to import. | 00:24 |
| ekcs | or search by name on CLI, then import by UUID. | 00:24 |
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| ekcs | on horizon it’s just selecting the entry, which is what you’d expect. | 00:24 |
| thinrichs | Though maybe the CLI behavior would be to let you use the name if it's unique, and otherwise require the UUID | 00:24 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: agree on CLI behavior when the input name happens to be unique. | 00:25 |
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| thinrichs | Do we have any policies in the library that reference another policy? | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | If not, the value of having multiple policies with the same name seems small. | 00:26 |
| ekcs | Not as of right now I think. So it’s really not an issue either way we go. problem is it’s hard to switch down the road. | 00:26 |
| ekcs | if we choose non-unique now and switch to unique, there are obvious upgrade problems. | 00:27 |
| ekcs | if we choose unique now and CLI, API that use that assumption, then move to non-unique later breaks them. | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | And it would be cool if people would start saying "use policy network_neutron_7" to fix this bug | 00:27 |
| ekcs | yea one vision that could potentially happen is a big library of policies people have contributed to and built up over the years. | 00:28 |
| ekcs | I guess thinrichs you’re saying that as a reason to go unique name. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | It seems that we should be able to relax the requirement of unique-names later if we wanted... | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | (Meaning that if every policy has a unique name, everything works the same | 00:29 |
| ekcs | I’m also thinking it’s a reason to go non-unique name because then someone can write a policy that refers to another without being tightly coupled to the specific policy. | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | but you could also have non-unique names and that would only impact you when using the CLI (via UUIDs) | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | or the API (using UUIDs) | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: If policy A referring to policy B becomes a real problem we could always invent an Interface concept | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | where policy A refers to interface B, and policies C, D, and E all implement interface B. | 00:31 |
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| ekcs | so it seems we’re leaning toward using unique names for now but not keeping the option open te move to non-unique later? | 00:32 |
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| thinrichs | I think there could be tremendous value in giving the community concrete names for a collection of policy statements that address a particular problem. That too me is the most compelling reason to go with unique names. | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | s/too/to | 00:34 |
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| ekcs | oh correctly my previous message: s/but not keeping/but keeping | 00:36 |
| ekcs | ramineni_, masahito any more thoughts? | 00:36 |
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| masahito | unique name sounds goods for me. | 00:37 |
| ramineni_ | I'm leaning towards unique names , can be changed later if required | 00:38 |
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| masahito | it's easier for users to check which real policy is created by which policy library. | 00:39 |
| ekcs | ok let’s do that then. great discussion! | 00:39 |
| ekcs | anything else we want to talk about right now on policy library? | 00:39 |
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| ekcs | ok let’s move on then =) | 00:41 |
| ekcs | #topic pike priorities | 00:41 |
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| ekcs | We’re coming up towards the end of pike. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | I went through our pike goals and downgraded some of them. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | leaving the high priority ones that I’m thinking we really want to get done for pike. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | please take a look now or later and comment and whether that makes sense. | 00:43 |
| ekcs | like are there other things that should be in there? or are there things that should not be in there. | 00:43 |
| ekcs | link is in etherpad. | 00:43 |
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| ramineni_ | Are high priority ones as must go in pike? Medium as good to go | 00:45 |
| ekcs | That’s the way I’m using it. At this point I don’t expect we’ll get to most medium ones. | 00:46 |
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| ramineni_ | Ok | 00:47 |
| ekcs | The big remaining pieces I prioritized as high are: author library policies, monitoring UI, CLI and UI for policy lib, WSGI deployment, python3 integration tests. | 00:47 |
| ekcs | the one I have least confidence in is WSGI deployment. I’ve been looking at it on and off but it’s a brand new thing for me. | 00:48 |
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| ekcs | library policies and python3 integration tests COULD go in between pike-3 and rc1. | 00:48 |
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| ramineni_ | I'll look at wsgi one | 00:49 |
| ekcs | the monkey wrench we got kind of late in the game is doc migration target moving from queens to pike because of openstack changes. but again that could be done between pike-3 and rc1. | 00:50 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: awesomeness. | 00:51 |
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| ekcs | let’s move on then for now. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 00:51 |
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| ekcs | please jump in with whatever you may want to talk about =) | 00:52 |
| ekcs | one interesting thing on ML is linked to on etherpad under congress for config files | 00:52 |
| ekcs | someone was proposing that congress be used to check configs during cloud operation. to make sure that they haven’t deviated from desired and accepted practices. | 00:54 |
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| thinrichs | I saw that | 00:54 |
| ekcs | he seems to have thought a fair bit about it and proposed that a new datasource be created to send config info to congress. | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | Another way to look at this is to *independently* check that the systems are behaving correctly through their APIs. | 00:55 |
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| ekcs | yup. does that seem like something that’s useful? | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | I don't know about the config files. Seems they could be hard to flatten. | 00:56 |
| ekcs | or is that really covered by all the existing config management systems in use. | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | Or would they? | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | I don't know if puppet/chef/ansible have a way of expressing invariants over the /etc/congress.conf files that get dumped onto disk | 00:57 |
| ekcs | doesn’t seem hard actually. are there hierarchicial data in configs? | 00:57 |
| ekcs | I feel like you could almost get away with a two column table. first is name/path of config, second a value. | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | I imagine those tools make it easy to write tests though. Just not sure about what you're testing. | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | Sounds like it'd be worth exploring | 00:58 |
| ekcs | like (“default.auth.blah”, “value”) | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | Solving a concrete pain point is always valuable | 00:58 |
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| ekcs | agreed. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | any other last min topics? | 00:59 |
| ekcs | literally last min. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | ok I guess we’re done then. Thanks all again! | 01:00 |
| masahito | thanks | 01:00 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 6 01:00:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-07-06-00.01.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-07-06-00.01.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-07-06-00.01.log.html | 01:00 |
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| zhenguo | #startmeeting mogan | 02:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 6 02:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhenguo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: mogan)" | 02:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mogan' | 02:01 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng, litao__, luyao, Xinran, zhangyang: o/ | 02:02 |
| zhangyang | o/ | 02:02 |
| litao__ | o/ | 02:02 |
| luyao | o/ | 02:02 |
| liusheng | o/ | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | as always, the agenda: | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | let's jump in | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | #topic announcements and reminders | 02:03 |
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| zhenguo | OpenStack Summit Sydney CFP, only 9 days left. | 02:04 |
| zhenguo | any ideas? | 02:04 |
| litao__ | 😬 | 02:04 |
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| litao__ | just thinking | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | litao__: hah, ok, just need some abstract | 02:06 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: would you like to prepare one about cloudboot or productions | 02:06 |
| litao__ | zhenguo：yeah | 02:06 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: i'm not sure... | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | litao__: is there a plan for Fiberhome to run mogan in production ? | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: hah, we can prepare a joint one | 02:07 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: that will be very cool | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: need to show how our big Bank customer use it, lol | 02:08 |
| litao__ | zhengguo：Currently not | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | litao__: need to wait it offical? | 02:09 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: maybe need more time | 02:09 |
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| litao__ | zhenguo: not sure, maybe before | 02:09 |
| zhenguo | litao__: ok | 02:09 |
| zhenguo | The Pike release is coming, we don't have much time left. | 02:10 |
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| liusheng | zhenguo: we will relase our 1.0 ? | 02:10 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: yes | 02:10 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: This is a big work for adding a new module, need to plan it in release version. | 02:10 |
| Xinran | hi sorry I am late | 02:10 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: do we need a p-3 or just one for Pike | 02:10 |
| liusheng | cool | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: np | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | litao__: got it, same to us | 02:11 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: maybe only one enough. hah | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: hah, sure | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: when we have a release, we should add API microversion and bump db schema migrations | 02:12 |
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| liusheng | zhenguo: ok, db migration is necessary | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | ok, and do you have something that must be done before release | 02:13 |
| litao__ | liusheng: yes, I often encounter inconsistent issues for db | 02:14 |
| zhenguo | hah | 02:14 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: do you still need server groups? | 02:15 |
| zhangyang | when do we stop merging codes for pike? | 02:15 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: according to liudong, yes | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: at least one month | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: ok | 02:15 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: i'll make it sure with him | 02:15 |
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| zhenguo | zhangyang: ok, thanks | 02:16 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: np:D | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | Contribution into mogan for the last 30 days | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | #link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/mogan/30 | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | we got 5 person got more than 20 reviews last 30 days | 02:17 |
| zhenguo | thanks all for your efforts | 02:17 |
| litao__ | hah | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | another thing I want to talk about is the 'review hour' | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | do you find it's useful? | 02:18 |
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| zhenguo | seems not run very well and it's not effective | 02:20 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: seems cannot ensure everyone have enough time | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | yes, that's one big reason | 02:20 |
| litao__ | I think putting patches in etherpad for review is useful, hah | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | need to improve it or should we just cancel it | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | ok, let's talk about it later when shaohe_feng and wanghao back | 02:21 |
| zhenguo | not much of announcement, anyone else have a thing here? | 02:21 |
| zhenguo | ok, let's move on | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | #topic task tracking | 02:22 |
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| zhenguo | #links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard | 02:22 |
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| zhenguo | looks like things are moving along nicely | 02:22 |
| * zhenguo gives folks a few minutes to review | 02:22 | |
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| zhenguo | do you think we should enrich quotas and notifications before Pike? | 02:25 |
| litao__ | quota now just supports server number | 02:26 |
| zhenguo | litao__: yes, we should add more | 02:26 |
| liusheng | I may prefer we'd better to enrich the stability of existing interfaces | 02:27 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: yes, before release we should make user the interfaces are stable | 02:27 |
| litao__ | stable is important | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | sure | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: do you care about the notifications? | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: if you want to run mogan in production env | 02:29 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: currently not using mogan notifications... | 02:30 |
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| zhenguo | zhangyang: ok, got it | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: you can give us more feedback on your tests, so we can improve it | 02:31 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: yes, sure! | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: thanks | 02:31 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: :D | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | ok, let's go through the tasks list one by one | 02:32 |
| zhenguo | the new flavors one is done, maybe need a following up patch to deny deleting in use flavors | 02:32 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: next is placement, seems it's almost done, thanks for your hard work | 02:34 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: np :D | 02:34 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: after that, we may need to consider node aggregates | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: sure, the next is node aggregates | 02:35 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: still not got how to use aggregates if it's only a notion of group without metadata/traits associated | 02:36 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: not very sure, but maybe scheduler can use that to select grouped nodes ? | 02:37 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: you mean we can specify aggregates when query RP? | 02:37 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: I think so | 02:37 |
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| zhangyang | we now use node aggregates to group node manually, and use the group while creating servers. | 02:39 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: at least, for now admins can set traits to every rp they want to, and flavor can match that | 02:39 |
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| zhenguo | zhangyang: for placement, we need to set traits to every node instead of setting metadata to a group | 02:40 |
| zhangyang | so we are thinking whether we can let user select between the placement api and the aggregate / scheduler of our own. | 02:40 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes, but if we specified node aggregates, we can also filter the nodes in specific aggregates | 02:40 |
| litao__ | liusheng: node aggregate is seen by normal users? | 02:40 |
| litao__ | liusheng: or admin only | 02:41 |
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| liusheng | litao__: no plan for now | 02:41 |
| zhenguo | I mean we don't use the host aggreates way like nova, but we can achieve the same thing | 02:41 |
| liusheng | liusheng: placement now only provide apis, I am not sure about the policy | 02:41 |
| zhenguo | if you want to group node1 node2 node3, you can set a trait to all of them | 02:42 |
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| shaohe_feng_ | zhenguo: morning | 02:42 |
| shaohe_feng_ | zhenguo: ping | 02:42 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: we don't use the similar interface provided by placement ? | 02:42 |
| zhenguo | the difference is that, nova create a host aggregates A, then you add node1, node2, node3 to A, and set metadata to A | 02:42 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng_: o/ | 02:43 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: you can also add a node to a aggregate | 02:43 |
| zhangyang | ah, i see. use placement api to set metadata to nodes you want to manage. | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: yes | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: if we can't set traits to aggreatge, we don't need aggregate | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: before you set metadata to aggregates, now you set metadata to every single node | 02:44 |
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| zhenguo | zhangyang: it's the same | 02:44 |
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| zhangyang | zhenguo: I see :D | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: and we use flavor resource_traits to match the specified resource provider(node) | 02:45 |
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| zhenguo | zhangyang: you can set AZ, RACK, ROW or whatever info to placement resource provider | 02:46 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: that will meet your requirements | 02:46 |
| * litao__ But it is a little complexity to add metadata for every node? | 02:47 | |
| zhenguo | litao__: yes | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | litao__: that's for admins/deployers, | 02:47 |
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| litao__ | zhenguo: yeah, I think so | 02:48 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: oh, i see. liudong are concerned on whether we should all turn to placement so quick, so we wanted to keep both methods... | 02:48 |
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| zhenguo | zhangyang: hah, placement's achitecture is simple, so no need to concern | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: just some query SQL to DB, it will be more fast, and we only use the basic functionalities | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | maybe we can hold a voice meeting to discuss more about placement things, hah | 02:51 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: so we can deploy placement api along with mogan on a single host? | 02:51 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: yes, we should | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: sure | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: it's very small | 02:51 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: ok, i see. | 02:52 |
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| shaohe_feng | wechat voice meeting. | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: hah | 02:53 |
| liusheng | haa, that is cool | 02:53 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: intel's conference bridge seems work fine for us, hah | 02:54 |
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| zhenguo | oh, it's almost time | 02:55 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: then I can setup a conference bridge | 02:55 |
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| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: ok, we can confirm with others later | 02:55 |
| zhenguo | another task is the 'adopt servers' | 02:55 |
| zhenguo | seems wanghao is absent | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | litao__: you will do together with wanghao, right? | 02:56 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: Ok. a fit suitable time for all | 02:56 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: yes, | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes | 02:56 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: I will commit my patch later | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | litao__: ok, t hanks | 02:57 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: n | 02:57 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: np | 02:57 |
| zhenguo | hi all, please help to review the specs more | 02:57 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: sure | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | and I would like to land the placement patches this week, then we will get more time to prepare other things before release. | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | also please help to review it | 02:58 |
| liusheng | thanks | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | ok, let's move to open discussion | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | #topic open discussion | 02:59 |
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| zhenguo | who's got a thing here | 02:59 |
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| zhenguo | ok, it's almost time, thanks everyone for joining the meeting! | 03:00 |
| liusheng | bye | 03:00 |
| litao__ | bye | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | #endmeeting | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 6 03:00:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-07-06-02.01.html | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-07-06-02.01.txt | 03:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-07-06-02.01.log.html | 03:01 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Hi | 13:09 |
| ianychoi_phone | jpich: Genek : Sorry I was a little bit confused with irc channel haha | 13:10 |
| jpich | No problems :) | 13:10 |
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| jftalta | Hi. Sorry for the delay :( | 13:25 |
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| ianychoi_phone | jftalta: Hi! | 13:26 |
| ianychoi_phone | Now there r 4 members - me, jftalta, jpich, and Genek | 13:26 |
| ianychoi_phone | Starting a meeting would be good? | 13:27 |
| jftalta | +1 | 13:27 |
| jpich | ok! | 13:27 |
| ianychoi_phone | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:27 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 6 13:27:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi_phone. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:27 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:27 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to '_openstack_i18n_meeting_' | 13:27 |
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| ianychoi_phone | #topic open discussions | 13:28 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Feel free to tell here :) | 13:28 |
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| jpich | Just an FYI! I'm going to be running a short presentation on tripleo-ui and i18n in about 30mn - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/119137.html . Everyone is welcome to attend if you're curious :) | 13:29 |
| ianychoi_phone | jftalta: how r u ? | 13:29 |
| ianychoi_phone | jpich: I will :) | 13:30 |
| jpich | ianychoi_phone: On your phone? Brave :-) | 13:30 |
| jftalta | ianychoi : I'm fine, thx :) | 13:30 |
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| jftalta | jpic: I'd like to attend your prez but I won't be able :( | 13:31 |
| jftalta | s/jpic/jpich/ | 13:31 |
| jpich | jftalta: No problems :) I'll record it and also post some notes online after, hopefully | 13:31 |
| jftalta | ok, cool :) | 13:32 |
| jftalta | ianychoi: and you, how are you going ? | 13:32 |
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| jpich | ianychoi_phone: I've never tried to access bluejeans on a phone, curious to hear if it works well! :) | 13:32 |
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| ianychoi_phone | jpich: Maybe? :) | 13:33 |
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| jpich | hehe | 13:33 |
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| jftalta | any news from Franck ?... | 13:33 |
| ianychoi_phone | jftalta: me is actually so busy | 13:33 |
| ianychoi_phone | jftalta: Frank attended the meeting last week and he is helping translate checksite | 13:34 |
| jftalta | :) | 13:34 |
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| jftalta | for my part, I think I'm going to work on the french glossary. | 13:36 |
| ianychoi_phone | Note that I need to cancel the next irc meeting since it conflicts with my company meeting and also OpenStack Days in Korea | 13:36 |
| jpich | ok | 13:37 |
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| jpich | Will you be attending the OpenStack Days? | 13:37 |
| jftalta | In France, OpenStack Days will stand in november, after Sydney Summit. | 13:37 |
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| ianychoi_phone | jpich: Both physically and virtually - I need to mainly stay at my office but I can move during my available time - it's near :) | 13:38 |
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| jpich | Cool, enjoy :) | 13:38 |
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| ianychoi_phone | jftalta: yep i have heard during Boston Summit | 13:39 |
| ianychoi_phone | jpich: thank u :) | 13:39 |
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| jftalta | tonight I'm going to an OS meetup in Paris. Hope I will meet one or two I18N contributors there | 13:41 |
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| jpich | That would be cool! | 13:42 |
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| jpich | By the way, if there is no meeting next week then this is my last meeting until August 17th - I'll try to catch up on everything when I'm back! | 13:43 |
| ianychoi_phone | jpich: oh your vacation is from next week? Enjoy your vacation:) | 13:44 |
| jftalta | jpich: enjoy, and take care ! | 13:45 |
| jpich | Thanks! :) | 13:45 |
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| ianychoi | I'm back :) | 13:51 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, and I sent an e-mail to you about I18n core reviewers. Would you check the mail if you have time later? | 13:52 |
| jftalta | sure | 13:53 |
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| ianychoi | Genek, although there will be no irc meeting next week, I think Foundation will announce translated user survey in OpenStack Days Korea 2017 next week. I will tell you :) | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, thank you! | 13:53 |
| jftalta | :) | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | #info Next I18n IRC meeting will be canceled | 13:55 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will submit extra ATC on the next week | 13:55 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480330/ | 13:56 |
| ianychoi | ^ is now merged so I can calculate extra ATC status with user survey translation | 13:56 |
| jftalta | yep | 13:57 |
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| ianychoi | #info Plz see open review in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/i18n+status:open | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | That's all from my saying briefly. | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | If there is no question, I would like to close today meeting. Any other questions? | 13:58 |
| jftalta | no question | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, I see thank you! :) | 13:59 |
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| ianychoi_phone | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 6 13:59:45 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_openstack_i18n_meeting_/2017/_openstack_i18n_meeting_.2017-07-06-13.27.html | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_openstack_i18n_meeting_/2017/_openstack_i18n_meeting_.2017-07-06-13.27.txt | 13:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/_openstack_i18n_meeting_/2017/_openstack_i18n_meeting_.2017-07-06-13.27.log.html | 13:59 |
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| andreaf | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 6 17:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| andreaf | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_July_6th_2017_.281700_UTC.29 Today's agenda | 17:00 |
| andreaf | o/ who's here today for the meeting? | 17:01 |
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| martinkopec | o/ | 17:01 |
| andreaf | hi | 17:01 |
| martinkopec | Hi, where is everybody else? :D | 17:02 |
| andreaf | let's wait another minute or two to see if anyone else is joining | 17:02 |
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| mguiney | o/ | 17:02 |
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| andreaf | ok let's get started | 17:03 |
| andreaf | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 17:04 |
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| andreaf | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-06-29-08.00.txt actions | 17:04 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480856/ chandakumar started his doc work | 17:05 |
| andreaf | I don't have updates from gmann - I'm back today from PTO so kind of short in updates | 17:05 |
| andreaf | #topic PTG | 17:06 |
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| andreaf | Just a quick update on the PTG | 17:06 |
| andreaf | the first two days QA will have a room where folks can pop in seeking help on QA related topics | 17:07 |
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| andreaf | the remaining three days we'll have a room for sessions and hacking | 17:07 |
| andreaf | We shall start discussing about topics for discussions soon-ish | 17:08 |
| martinkopec | that's awesome | 17:08 |
| mtreinish | sigh, I guess that means I'll have conflicts the whole week :) | 17:09 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: the first two days we can setup a kind of rota, so that QA folks can join WG sessions as well | 17:09 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: for the sessions I would try to pack them together but if we have room to move them around to avoid conflicts | 17:10 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: so it should not be too bad | 17:10 |
| andreaf | so unless anyone objects, since we are a very small group today, I would skip the rest of formal agenda and move to Open Discussion | 17:11 |
| martinkopec | I can add some little information about tempest bug triaging I was supposed to do this week | 17:12 |
| andreaf | #topic Tempest bug triage | 17:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest bug triage (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:12 | |
| martinkopec | so I've created the report on | 17:12 |
| martinkopec | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report | 17:13 |
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| martinkopec | unfortunately I wasn't able to confirm any new bug but | 17:13 |
| martinkopec | at least I've checkd if bugs in progress are valid | 17:13 |
| martinkopec | if they have an assignee .. and reviewed incomplete bugs | 17:14 |
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| andreaf | martinkopec: that's great it's good to check if in-progress bugs are really in progress | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | martinkopec: did you see: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118868.html there has been some work to automate this kind of work | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | it might be useful to look into that | 17:15 |
| martinkopec | mtreinish, I'll have a look | 17:15 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: I saw that earlier today but didn't really look into it yet, but yeah | 17:15 |
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| andreaf | any automation we can get would be welcome since we have a decent backlog - nothing compared to nova though | 17:16 |
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| martinkopec | yeah, automation would be good .. btw, I was kindly surprised how the number of bugs went lower last few weeks, that's good | 17:17 |
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| martinkopec | *tempest bugs on Launchpad | 17:18 |
| mtreinish | oh, that is good, I guess we're fixing things :) | 17:18 |
| andreaf | martinkopec: according to the report there is a new "high importance" bug in the list, but high importance bugs are all kind of old - do you know which one had its priority raised? | 17:18 |
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| martinkopec | andreaf, no, there were already 8 when I started bug triaging :/ | 17:19 |
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| andreaf | uhm I guess it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1681866 | 17:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1681866 in tempest "Bad response code while validating token: 502" [High,Confirmed] | 17:20 |
| andreaf | I don't see how this is a tempest issue though... | 17:20 |
| mtreinish | that's not a tempest bug | 17:20 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: heh you were faster - down to 7 now :) | 17:22 |
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| andreaf | ok anything else on bug triage? | 17:23 |
| martinkopec | that's all from my side | 17:23 |
| andreaf | any volunteer to look into applying sdague automation to tempest? | 17:24 |
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| mtreinish | I'm not sure if I'll have the bandwidth to look anytime soon, I'm traveling again next week | 17:25 |
| andreaf | if anyone wants to look into that feel free to ping me later or add your name to the bug triage etherpad | 17:25 |
| andreaf | I'm also seeking volunteers for the gate issue categorisation: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-gate-issue-categotisation | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | but I was interested in testing it, because I've spent too much time over the years doing bug triage by hand | 17:26 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: heh no worries - I will give it a shot if no-one else is available | 17:26 |
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| andreaf | ok, next topic | 17:27 |
| andreaf | #topic Open Discussion | 17:27 |
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| andreaf | anything else to be discussed today? | 17:27 |
| andreaf | else I'll give you a record 30min back of your life | 17:28 |
| andreaf | not sure about the ordering of words in that sentence ^^^ hope it makes sense | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I understood :) | 17:29 |
| martinkopec | andreaf, yeah it makes :) | 17:29 |
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| andreaf | :) | 17:31 |
| andreaf | ok thanks everyone for your time! | 17:31 |
| andreaf | #endmeeting qa | 17:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 6 17:31:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-07-06-17.00.html | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-07-06-17.00.txt | 17:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-07-06-17.00.log.html | 17:32 |
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| dtroyer | anyone around to talk osc? | 19:00 |
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| dtroyer | going once... | 19:06 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 19:07 |
| dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 6 19:07:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:07 |
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| dtroyer | two is more than we've had for a while :) | 19:07 |
| dhellmann | heh | 19:07 |
| dhellmann | I'm looking at that display command hook patch now | 19:07 |
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| dhellmann | I'm going to throw another patch on top of it to add some tests | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | summer for half the world, go figure | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | how are we doing with the doc-migration stuff for OSC repos? | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | ok, thanks. I wasn't sure if that fits what you intended for the hooks | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | I think I have most, if not all, of the reviews merged | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | will check again after this | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | ok, cool | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | ah, I have not looked at os-client-config yet, so there may be some there still | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | how are things going otherwise? any reviews I can help with besides that display command item? | 19:09 |
| dtroyer | I can't think of anything specific, there are a couple that need working through the command/option layout | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | the os-client-config items all merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/os-client-config+topic:doc-migration | 19:09 |
| dtroyer | in osc proper | 19:09 |
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| dhellmann | ok | 19:11 |
| dhellmann | that's really all I had :-) | 19:11 |
| dtroyer | I am planning to do a set of releases soon, will be out of town for a few days here but can keep an eye on that since it's looking like they will not be ready until Monday now | 19:11 |
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| dhellmann | I can take care of that for you, if you want. No sense in worrying about that while you're on the road. | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | ok, thanks. cliff is ready once your bits merge, there is one more review on osc-lib I want to resolve yet, then it is ready. I am behind the curve on o-c-c but we do need one before the freeze yet there too. | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | osc-lib: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462150/ | 19:14 |
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| dhellmann | if you have the list of patches you want to wait for I can set that up | 19:14 |
| dhellmann | in fact, if you have the patches, you could file the release today with depends-on :-) | 19:15 |
| dtroyer | we can merge that, if rui's question needs addressing it can be in a follow-up | 19:15 |
| dtroyer | oh, good idea... | 19:15 |
| dtroyer | the last one merged is the release SHA, right? assuming that doesn't change | 19:16 |
| stevemar | o/ | 19:16 |
| dhellmann | yeah, and I can fix it if the sha ends up changing | 19:16 |
| dtroyer | it's OSC that is the unknown, and since it has another week (right?) before freeze I'm focusing on the libs now | 19:17 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer : https://review.openstack.org/481192 adds tests for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479157/4 | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | thanks | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | I would prefer to merge those together, I think, so I'll +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479157/4 but leave the approval to you | 19:18 |
| dtroyer | stevemar: do you have an opinion on the live migration options between https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462150/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460059/? | 19:18 |
| dtroyer | dhellmann: ok | 19:18 |
| dtroyer | stevemar: I am writing a comment with my thoughts to add to both reviews to pick one to handle both of them since they overlap | 19:19 |
| dtroyer | basically, it's a combination of not wanting to use the argparse nargs option (at all if possible) and picking option names | 19:20 |
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| dtroyer | grrrr, I gave you bad links: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427565/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460059/ | 19:21 |
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| stevemar | oh the migration bits... | 19:29 |
| stevemar | sorry, i don't have much of an opinion on that stuff, not in my wheelhouse | 19:29 |
| dtroyer | ok, np, thanks | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | from a command format standpoint though, I prefer —cold to —no-live I think | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | but also don't want the hostname to be optional, maybe would rather have —live-auto for the no-host-given version | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | the second one I'm not totally sold on yet, but I still don't like nargs | 19:31 |
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| dtroyer | ok, anything else? | 19:35 |
| dtroyer | My apologies for not having better structure to this, I'm still catching up from the last couple of weeks... | 19:35 |
| dtroyer | ok, thanks guys for your time! | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 19:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 6 19:37:43 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2017/openstackclient.2017-07-06-19.07.html | 19:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2017/openstackclient.2017-07-06-19.07.txt | 19:37 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 6 21:01:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:01 |
| efried | \o | 21:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | ok let's get started | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| mriedem | #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #info July 27 is feature freeze (3 weeks away) | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints: 65 targeted, 63 approved, 26 completed (+1 from last week) | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | slowly making some progress on closing things out, but not nearly enough | 21:03 |
| mriedem | any questions about the release? | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:04 | |
| mriedem | there is nothing listed as critical | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #help Need help with bug triage; there are 109 (+2 from last week) new untriaged bugs as of today (July 6). | 21:04 |
| mriedem | gate status is ok, | 21:05 |
| mriedem | one of the main issues was some image upload test failing b/c of glance running under uwsgi in devstack | 21:05 |
| mriedem | looks like that has dropped off after a socket timeout was increased yesterday http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1701088 | 21:05 |
| mriedem | no news on 3rd party ci | 21:05 |
| mriedem | anything to mention for bugs? | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | #topic reminders | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mriedem | #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #link Consider signing up for the Queens PTG which is the week of September 11 in Denver, CO, USA: https://www.openstack.org/ptg | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mriedem | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 21:06 |
| mriedem | quite a few open reviews for ocata | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 21:07 |
| mriedem | and for newton | 21:07 |
| mriedem | infra is working through dropping the mitaka jobs | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| mriedem | dansmith: anything for cells v2? | 21:08 |
| dansmith | just reviewed the outstanding reviews | 21:08 |
| dansmith | which got some things going | 21:08 |
| dansmith | working through issues with the ironic people on the multicell devstack patch, | 21:08 |
| dansmith | but might have that resolved at this point | 21:08 |
| dansmith | that's about it I think | 21:08 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:09 |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler? | 21:09 |
| edleafe | no meeting this week. I'm just catching up on the current state of things | 21:09 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:09 |
| edleafe | so unless someone else has anything | 21:09 |
| mriedem | top priority review is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476631/ | 21:09 |
| mriedem | there was a short api subteam meeting this week due to the 4th of July holiday in the US | 21:10 |
| mriedem | working on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/fix-quota-classes-api | 21:10 |
| mriedem | there was no notification meeting this week due to the holiday also | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | for the cinder v3 attach stuff, the series needs reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+topic:bp/cinder-new-attach-apis+branch:master; stvnoyes is working on some grenade testing | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i'm going through those changes today | 21:11 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:11 | |
| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda, | 21:11 |
| mriedem | does anyone want to mention something? | 21:11 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:11 | |
| mriedem | nothing on the agenda, so i'll open it up | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | alright then | 21:12 |
| mriedem | i guess that's it, | 21:12 |
| mriedem | thanks everyone | 21:12 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:12 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 6 21:12:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-07-06-21.01.html | 21:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-07-06-21.01.txt | 21:12 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-07-06-21.01.log.html | 21:12 |
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| kevinbenton | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 6 22:00:29 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | o/ | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
| armax | that’s abrupt | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 22:00 |
| armax | not even hello | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | hello | 22:00 |
| amotoki | hi | 22:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 22:00 |
| armax | too late | 22:00 |
| * amuller is lurking | 22:00 | |
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| kevinbenton | ok, i want to look at a few things from the list here | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1627987 | 22:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627987 in neutron "[RFE] SR-IOV accelerated OVS integration" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Moshe Levi (moshele) | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | this one seems easy enough to me | 22:02 |
| armax | kevinbenton: I looked at it and reviewed the patches just now | 22:02 |
| armax | not sure I see much of an RFE material in the sense that this feels like a minimal enhnancement | 22:02 |
| armax | am I missing something? | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | nope | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | that's why we can just approve | 22:03 |
| mlavalle | pretty well contained | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | and skip spec | 22:03 |
| armax | well, I’d argue we should just remove the rfe tag :) | 22:03 |
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| armax | though | 22:03 |
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| armax | this reminds of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1506127 | 22:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1506127 in neutron "enable vhost-user support with neutron ovs agent" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to Terry Wilson (otherwiseguy) | 22:04 |
| armax | which was an RFE | 22:04 |
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| armax | but it brought in a user-facing change and some contention in relation to the networking-ovs-dpdk project | 22:05 |
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| kevinbenton | nope | 22:05 |
| kevinbenton | seems to just be an agent flag to change info in vif details to nova | 22:05 |
| armax | nope to what? | 22:05 |
| amotoki | what is the difference between removing rfe tag and approving rfe without requesting spec? | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | not user facing or anything like that | 22:06 |
| amotoki | the change would be simple | 22:06 |
| armax | amotoki: none, just ignore me :) | 22:06 |
| armax | kevinbenton: agreed, but won’t we need to add a new value to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237264/19/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/common/config.py@56? | 22:06 |
| armax | sorry I meant | 22:06 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237264/19/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/common/config.py@52 | 22:06 |
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| kevinbenton | (sorry, internet is really slow) | 22:07 |
| kevinbenton | armax: what was that a link to? | 22:08 |
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| amotoki | amuller: you mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237264/19/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/common/constants.py ? | 22:08 |
| amotoki | amuller: sorry | 22:09 |
| amuller | :) | 22:09 |
| amotoki | armax: ^ | 22:09 |
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| armax | no | 22:09 |
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| armax | I meant the datapath_type config option agent side | 22:09 |
| amotoki | ah i see. datapath_type | 22:09 |
| armax | the RFE states | 22:09 |
| armax | that a new hw_acc value would be used | 22:10 |
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| kevinbenton | yeah, so an operator option is needed then | 22:10 |
| armax | to make sure we can do a direct binding | 22:10 |
| armax | kevinbenton: that’s what I thought, and hence I posted my question in the review | 22:10 |
| kevinbenton | is there a problem we are trying to figure out here? | 22:10 |
| armax | none | 22:10 |
| kevinbenton | or can we move to review | 22:10 |
| armax | as far as I can see | 22:10 |
| armax | yeah | 22:10 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:10 |
| armax | so long as we document the whole thing etc we should be good | 22:11 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667877 | 22:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667877 in neutron "[RFE] Allow DVR for E/W while leaving N/S centralized" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:11 |
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| kevinbenton | armax has a suggestion in there about an agent config mode to make it not do offload | 22:12 |
| armax | kevinbenton: right now we have a config option used for L3 agents | 22:12 |
| kevinbenton | armax: well i thought you did | 22:12 |
| armax | whose values are ‘dvr’, ‘dvr_snat’, and ‘legacy’ | 22:13 |
| mlavalle | I went thorugh the bug again. Didn't see any change | 22:13 |
| kevinbenton | armax: didn't you leave a comment somewhere? | 22:13 |
| armax | we can add a new one ‘dvr_no_dnat’ | 22:13 |
| kevinbenton | armax: yeah, that would work for me | 22:13 |
| armax | this way FIP requests will always go to ‘dvr_snat’ nodes | 22:14 |
| amotoki | dvr_no_nat? | 22:14 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: yeah, that would be set on the compute node l3 agents | 22:14 |
| kevinbenton | and then they would do no north/south translation | 22:14 |
| kevinbenton | which would be left to a central node at that point | 22:15 |
| mlavalle | and that woul;d by dnat, right? | 22:15 |
| armax | kevinbenton: right, code agent side would need to be refactored a bit to avoid some of the spaghetti mess | 22:15 |
| kevinbenton | armax: didn't you comment this somewhere or am i going crazy? | 22:15 |
| kevinbenton | (other than above in this meeting) | 22:15 |
| armax | kevinbenton: perhaps I was | 22:16 |
| armax | kevinbenton: do you want me to repost? | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | yeah, put it in the bug if you can | 22:16 |
| armax | yes, sir | 22:16 |
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| mlavalle | Swami commented this mroning during L3 team meeting he is ready to start working on this | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | does anyone have any objections then to having this option to basically disable the north-south capabilities on a compute node l3 agent? | 22:17 |
| mlavalle | so any guidance we can leave in the rfe will be helpful | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | which would then force them back to the central agent? | 22:17 |
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| armax | mlavalle: OK | 22:17 |
| mlavalle | I am ok with it | 22:17 |
| amotoki | okay | 22:17 |
| armax | kevinbenton: let me comment and if you’re happy with it then you can rfe-approve | 22:18 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: ok | 22:18 |
| armax | the only difference between the initial approach | 22:18 |
| armax | and this one being discussed right now | 22:18 |
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| armax | is that the centralized DNAT is always config driven | 22:18 |
| armax | not based on some ‘circumstantial’ condition | 22:19 |
| armax | which is based on agent health | 22:19 |
| mlavalle | so operator chooses to centralize DNAT or not based solely on cofig, right? | 22:19 |
| armax | and also the fact that we don’t have yet another config option a user must wrap her head around | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | yes | 22:20 |
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| kevinbenton | any l3 agents without external network access would have this option set | 22:20 |
| armax | we need to understand what happens in clouds with a mix of agents where | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | ok | 22:21 |
| armax | a bunch are dvr (computes), dvr_snat (network nodes) and dvr_no_dnat (compute) | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | armax: shouldn't be anything too special there | 22:21 |
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| kevinbenton | just whatever was on no_dnat would be centralized | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | while other stuff remains the same | 22:21 |
| armax | when a VM with FIP migrates from a compute running in DVR mode to one running in dvr_no_dnat what happens? | 22:21 |
| armax | I still believe this is a can of worms | 22:21 |
| armax | but hey, you want the rope | 22:22 |
| armax | ... | 22:22 |
| armax | have at it | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | the same thing as happens now | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | just a different destination :) | 22:22 |
| armax | kevinbenton: let’s hope so :) | 22:22 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: ok, did you comment yet? | 22:22 |
| armax | no | 22:22 |
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| armax | do I have to now? I can’t multitask :) | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | oh, no | 22:23 |
| armax | if I comment, I can’t talk to you | 22:23 |
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| kevinbenton | i just thought you meant right now | 22:23 |
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| kevinbenton | let's move on for now then | 22:23 |
| armax | I’ll ping you as soon as I do | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1669630 | 22:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1669630 in neutron "Network RBAC acceptance workflow" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1669630 | 22:24 |
| armax | this would need a spec, wouldn’t it? | 22:25 |
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| armax | we need new CLI, docs etc, the whole lot | 22:25 |
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| armax | no? | 22:25 |
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| amotoki | i think a spec is a good start | 22:27 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, it does enatil cli, api change, docs, etc | 22:27 |
| mlavalle | entail^^^^ | 22:27 |
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| kevinbenton | #chair armax | 22:29 |
| openstack | Current chairs: armax kevinbenton | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | (bad connection, will read backlog later, sorry everyone!) | 22:29 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: we were talking about a spec as a next step | 22:30 |
| mlavalle | given that it entails cli, api change, docs | 22:30 |
| mlavalle | that's as much as you lost | 22:30 |
| mlavalle | maybe we lost him again | 22:31 |
| armax | yeah | 22:32 |
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| armax | mlavalle: I suppose we can comment on the bug report for him | 22:33 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:33 |
| mlavalle | let's do that | 22:33 |
| armax | no we have the option to continue to scrub the list or call the meeting off | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | #chair armax | 22:34 |
| openstack | Current chairs: armax kevinbenton | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | did that make it through? | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | yay! | 22:34 |
| armax | kevinbenton: yes it did | 22:34 |
| mlavalle | yes it did | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | i'm okay with just ending the meeting for now if you folks want | 22:35 |
| armax | mlavalle, amotoki thoughts? | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | ok with me | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | i got the two burning ones blocking people | 22:35 |
| armax | burning? | 22:35 |
| amotoki | okay | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | this one | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1669630 | 22:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1669630 in neutron "Network RBAC acceptance workflow" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | burning rfe's | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | armax: ^^^^ | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | looks like it has a contributor that i can help | 22:35 |
| armax | I hardly thought they were lukewarm | 22:35 |
| armax | but sure | 22:36 |
| armax | let’s wrap this up so that I can comment on these and move them through the pipeline | 22:36 |
| armax | sounds good? | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | sounds good | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | sounds good to me | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | did anyone have any other high priority things? | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | before we end? | 22:36 |
| armax | yeah | 22:36 |
| armax | anything anyone? | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | I will make sure Swami gets the latest news about the fip rfe | 22:36 |
| armax | mlavalle: aye | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: send him a carrier pigeon | 22:37 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 22:37 |
| armax | or a horse’s head | 22:37 |
| armax | your choice | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: anything you want to discuss? | 22:37 |
| mlavalle | ROFL | 22:37 |
| amotoki | kevinbenton: no priority item from me. | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:38 |
| armax | ok | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | let's end then and chat next week | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | thanks everyone | 22:38 |
| armax | kevinbenton: do you have spare bauds to close the meeting? | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | #endmeeting | 22:38 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: have fun wherever you are | 22:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 6 22:38:37 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-07-06-22.00.html | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | looks like it | 22:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-07-06-22.00.txt | 22:38 |
| armax | he did! | 22:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-07-06-22.00.log.html | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: glacier national park :) | 22:38 |
| mlavalle | Great! | 22:38 |
| amotoki | nice :) | 22:39 |
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