Thursday, 2016-11-24

ramineni_aimeeu: ekcs: masahito: thinrichs : hi00:00
ekcshi all!00:00
masahitohi00:00
ramineni_#startmeeting congressteammeeting00:00
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aimeeuhello!00:01
ramineni_here is our todayś agenda00:01
ramineni_1. Gate issues00:01
ramineni_2. Ocata-100:01
ramineni_3. Newton 4.0.100:01
ramineni_4. status updates00:01
ramineni_anything else?00:01
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ramineni_#topic gate issues00:03
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ramineni_ekcs: you want to give an update on it00:03
ramineni_?00:03
ekcsyup.00:03
ekcsLast Thursday a change to aodh made it so it didn't work with the mysql version on trusty test nodes, causing all those tempest tests to fail and block the gate.00:05
ekcsIt took a while for us to track it down and make the right changes to project config to run xenial instead of trusty on the newer branches of congress.00:05
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ekcsThe issue was finally resolved and we were finally able to merge a log jam of patches.00:06
ramineni_ekcs: is it a occasinal failure ?.. when aodh patch is merged everything looked green right00:06
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ekcsramineni_: no it was a every time failure. the aodh project merged the change last thursday or something, after we added aodh to the tempest devstack config.00:07
ekcsWe seem to have a new gate issue though.00:07
ramineni_ekcs: ah, ok.. got it00:08
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ekcsstarting yesterday all tempest tests seem to be failing with00:08
ekcs2016-11-23 07:58:19.519 | publicURL endpoint for policy service in RegionOne region not found00:08
ekcs2016-11-23 07:58:19.549 | exit_trap: cleaning up child processes00:08
ekcs2016-11-23 07:58:19.550 | ./stack.sh: line 493: kill: (19488) - No such process00:08
ekcsnot sure if anyone knows more about it.00:08
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ramineni_ekcs: im not seeing any logs regarding it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401090/00:10
ekcsbtw here’s the aodh patch that broke compatibility with old mysql. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372586/500:10
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ekcsRight. I don’t see any congress errors either. I guess we’ll recheck again and see if it goes away. If not, we may need to dig deeper.00:12
thinrichsekcs: is that error saying it couldn't find keystone?00:12
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thinrichsOr that keystone is throwing an error?00:12
ekcsthinrichs: hmm could be saying it couldn’t find keystone. or the URL is not set correctly.00:13
ekcsi guess we should see what we can find in keystone log.00:13
ramineni_may be congress endpoint is not registered with keystone00:14
ramineni_congress is not successfully started?00:14
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ekcsramineni_: maybe. all three congress logs show congress running for about 20s without errors.00:15
ramineni_ohok00:16
ekcsright now I can’t see the logs because of infra cinder problem. we’ll just have to figure it out later.00:16
ekcsbut oh what’s the name of the keystone logs in devstack?00:17
ramineni_the logs will be inside apache i guess00:17
ekcsgot it.00:17
ekcsanyway that’s all i have on the topic.00:18
ramineni_there is one more issue where py27 jobs are failily more frequently this time00:18
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ramineni_with error engine service timeout00:19
ramineni_i debugged it a lil .. engine service is up, but looks like its waiting till the response .. so i have raised the rpc_timeput in the tests00:20
ramineni_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/401090/00:20
ramineni_**its not waiting00:21
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ramineni_anything else from anyone on this topic?00:22
masahito_short update from my side.00:23
masahito_I checked Congress driver error. and it would be fixed by the patch.00:24
masahito_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397096/00:24
masahito_it's my update for gate issue.00:25
ramineni_masahito_: doctor driver error right? what is the reason for its failure00:26
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masahito_the root cause is not doctor driver, it's from api server.00:26
masahito_when deleting a datasource, api server called delete_datasource method in its node.00:27
masahito_and then, the node that api server runs on calls synchronize_datasource and make all configured ds in it.00:28
ramineni_ok, thanks for digging it up00:29
ramineni_moving on then00:30
ramineni_#topic ocata-100:30
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ramineni_ocata-1 released last week00:31
ramineni_#link https://github.com/openstack/congress/releases/tag/5.0.0.0b100:31
ramineni_unfortunately most of the patches didnt make it because of gate issues00:31
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ramineni_they would be targted for ocata-2, which is around Dec 12 I suppose00:32
ramineni_Any thoughts/comments?00:33
ekcssounds good00:34
ramineni_#topic Newton 4.0.100:35
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ramineni_We need to do a 4.0.1 release because of some critical (for multi-node) bugs resolved by the following patches:00:36
ramineni_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395875/00:36
ramineni_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400322/00:36
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ramineni_ekcs: thinrichs: is there timeline for newton releases?00:37
thinrichsLooking…00:37
ekcsramineni_: I think it’s up to us.00:37
ekcsI read somewhere that people sometimes to biweekly releases (as needed) for the latest stable.00:38
ekcshttp://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html00:39
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ekcshttp://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#proactive-backports00:39
thinrichsCan't seem to find any announcements on the ML or on the usual release schedule webpage00:39
ekcshttp://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#release-often00:39
ekcs“Proactive backporting process is expected to trigger higher volume of changes in stable branches. To make releases more granular, it’s advised participating projects create new stable releases often. It may be done on a bi-weekly basis, or any other schedule that fits better the project and its actual backports volume.”00:40
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thinrichsThey definitely used to do synchronized releases.  Could ping the release team if we want.  I'll check one more thing quickly..00:40
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thinrichsNo lunch.  Can't discern a pattern from tags on Nova/Neutron.00:42
thinrichss/lunch/luck00:42
thinrichsDocs seem pretty clear that it's up to us.00:42
ramineni_ok00:43
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ramineni_we can check what all other patches can be targted for Newton00:44
ekcsIf this is a simple fix, then maybe we can get this in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/163717200:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1637172 in congress "rule using policy:table(…) reference fails to create" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Tim Hinrichs (thinrichs)00:44
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ekcsAnd I think we should backport this too if ready in time: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400643/00:45
ramineni_https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1641501 ?00:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1641501 in congress "Horizon unable to get policies using keystone v3" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Anusha (anusha-iiitm)00:46
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thinrichsHaven't had the time to diagnose that one.00:46
thinrichsI'll look right now00:46
ramineni_aimeeu: do you still want to work on the horizon bug?00:47
aimeeuramineni_: I don't think I am going to have time.00:47
ramineni_aimeeu: ok, np00:48
aimeeuI will finish the minor refactoring assigned to me for Ocata-200:48
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ekcsramineni_: i’d lean toward not backporting that horizon v3 fix to newton because there is a working workaround in place. what do you think?00:48
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ramineni_ekcs: yes , but v2 is kind of deprecated in newton i suppose00:49
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ekcsramineni_: i see.00:50
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ramineni_ekcs: or yes it can be targeted for ocata00:50
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ramineni_ekcs: you are tarheting the release next week? for newton00:52
ekcsramineni_: we can decide that based on what we feel we can get in soon.00:52
ramineni_sure00:53
ramineni_anything else on this topic?00:53
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ramineni_#topic open discussion00:54
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ramineni_we have around 5 mins.. anyone would like to discuss anything00:54
thinrichsAttended the policy meeting again today.00:55
ekcsjust a reminder to wait for another infra update before running any rechecks.00:55
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thinrichsSomeone did a POC hooking up ApacheFortress (a standard RBAC system) to oslo-policy and keystone.00:55
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thinrichsSeemed like not much of a change to oslo-policy.00:55
thinrichsIt's worth us thinking about doing that for those users who want proactively enforce policy at the API layer.00:56
thinrichsLet me see if I can find the link.00:56
thinrichshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/237521/00:57
thinrichsOne of the challenging things about that POC was that AF isn't natively multi-tenant.00:57
thinrichsSo it'll answer the question is user-object-right permitted?00:58
thinrichsBut the question we have to answer to whether user-object-right permitted for the project that the object belongs to.00:58
thinrichsWhich Congress can do well.00:58
ekcsah interesting.00:59
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ramineni_time to wrap up meeting , Happy Thanksgiving to all01:00
ramineni_#endmeeting01:00
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masahito_sounds we could comment the patch and it's worth writing poc policy for it if possible.01:00
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thinrichsHappy Thanksgiving!01:00
ekcsbye all01:00
masahito_bye all01:00
thinrichsmasahito: we could think about doing something similar to that patch.01:00
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eumel8aloha12:56
ianychoieumel8, hihi!12:57
eumel8hi ianychoi12:58
ianychoihi :) how r u?12:58
eumel8I'm in a parallel meeting like every 2 weeks ;)12:58
ianychoioh you are in parallel now?12:58
eumel8yes12:58
ianychoiactually same as me...12:59
ianychoimaybe chainging meeting time later would be a good idea12:59
eumel8because the time shift in the winter time12:59
ianychoiwinter time.. ok12:59
ianychoii fotgot that today is thanksgiving is us13:00
ianychoi#startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting13:00
eumel8not for us13:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 24 13:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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eumel8ok13:00
eumel8hiho13:00
ianychoiso.. if there are less people i would like to postpone.. to next thursday13:01
ianychoi#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-11-17-07.02.html13:02
eumel8sounds good13:02
ianychoi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/I18nTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting13:02
eumel8I have also not so much news13:03
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ianychoieumel8, thanks a lot for last week infra meeting. infra team is doing.. but now on rest for thanksgiving day in us :)13:03
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eumel8ok :)13:03
shintarohi13:04
ianychoishintaro, hi!13:04
shintarosorry, wrong channel :(13:04
ianychoifine :613:04
ianychoi#info today is thankgiving us. Let's postpone to next week!13:06
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ianychoieumel8, let's finish today meeting. Have a good another meeting and see you on the next week!13:07
eumel8cu ianychoi :)13:08
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ianychoioh cira13:09
cirahey13:09
cirasorry for the delay13:09
ianychoihey Romanian :)13:09
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cirahello hello :)13:09
ianychoihello! First sorry for my delay..13:10
jftaltahello13:10
ianychoijftalta, hi :)13:10
jftaltasorry for being late13:10
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ianychoifine but today i wanna postpone... because i am now in parallel and eumel8 is also..13:11
jftaltaah...13:11
jftaltais today meeting cancelled ?13:12
ianychoijftalta,  so anyway adding ro to zanata is fine right?13:12
ianychoinow on going.. but i wanna postpone topics13:12
jftaltaok13:13
jftaltayes, adding ro to zanata is ok :)13:13
cirai also have another meeting in 30 mins so its good if we keep it short and to the point13:13
ciraThanks jftalta! do you guys have an estimate of the workload involved in hours?13:14
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ciraI will try to recruit more romanian translators13:14
ianychoi#topic Romanian languag13:14
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jftaltacira: good idea.13:17
ianychoi#action ianychoi will add Romanian in Zanata and tell to cira13:17
ianychoicira i added it as an action item :)13:17
ianychoiAre u familiar with irc?13:18
cirathanks13:18
cirani have not used it since for 15 years now13:18
cirai'll read a tutorial until next meeting to get back on track13:19
jftaltacira: don't worry, it's not a big issue ;)13:20
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ianychoii agree with jftalta :)13:20
ianychoi#topic open discussions13:20
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cira:) i know we can have private/public chats we got admins and all that13:21
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ianychoiwe use #openstack-i18n irc channel13:22
jftaltaianychoi : review of french Mitaka install guide is in progress13:22
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jftaltaianychoi : Zanata platform has been upgraded, right ?13:23
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jftalta"Glossary" in horizontal the menu bar is new for me13:25
ianychoiis upgrading :)13:25
ianychoinot upgraded13:25
jftaltaok13:26
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ianychoijftalta, please let me know after that . Since liberty will be EOL soon I wanna enable French before eol13:26
jftaltasure, I will13:27
ianychoithanks :)13:27
ianychoicirq nice to meet you today!13:27
ianychoicirq13:27
ianychoicira13:27
ianychoiI wanna finish meeting if there r no more topics today...13:28
ciranice meeting you too!13:28
jftaltano more topic for me13:28
cirai'll talk to you guys soon13:29
cirahave a nice day13:29
jftaltacira: thx, see you soon !13:29
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ianychoiBye all!13:29
ianychoi#endmeeting13:29
jftaltaBye13:29
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andreaf#startmeeting qa17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 24 17:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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andreafHello, who's here today?17:01
rodrigodso/17:01
andreafToday's agenda: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_November_24th_2016_.281700_UTC.2917:01
andreafHello rodrigods - let17:01
andreaflet's wait a min or two to see if someone else joins17:01
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rodrigodscan i have a topic from the meeting 15 days ago that didn't happen?17:02
rodrigodsPassword management tests for keystone [rodrigods]17:02
andreafrodrigods: sure - we can talk about that in the #tempest section of the meeting if that's allright17:02
rodrigodssounds good to me :)17:03
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andreafok -it's 3 past, I guess we should go ahead and get started17:04
andreaf#topic Ocata priorities17:04
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andreafJust a reminder here that bug triage is one of the priorities we set for this cycle17:05
tellesnobregao/17:05
andreafWe have a calendar at #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-bug-triage17:06
andreaffeel free to sign-up for a week bug triage as there are some weeks with no owner in Jan/Feb next year17:07
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andreafAnything else on Ocata priorities?17:07
rodrigodsandreaf, so one person assigns to a week to handle bug reports?17:07
rodrigodshandle i mean, triage17:08
andreafrodrigods: yes17:08
andreafwe do a rotation as it involves a bit of extra work, but we want to keep the bug under control17:08
rodrigodscool, i can help, would need someone from the core team to double check though, i guess17:08
andreafthe person in charge for bug triage for a week shall report at the end of the week (Thursday) about the bug status in the QA meeting17:09
rodrigodsput myself on 22th December17:10
andreafrodrigods: cool - any question ping me or any other core in the qa room17:10
rodrigodscool, will do17:10
andreafthanks17:10
andreafok, next topic17:11
andreaf#topic Specs Reviews17:11
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andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z17:11
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andreafI don't have anything special on this topic17:12
* rodrigods neither17:12
andreafok let's move on17:13
andreaf#topic Tempest17:13
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andreafrodrigods: the floor is yours :)17:13
rodrigodscool!17:13
rodrigodsso keystone has this new feature that landed in newton called "PCI-DSS"17:13
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rodrigodsit is related to password management, like: lockout user account after failed attempts, avoid reusing the same password, etc17:14
rodrigodswe know that devstack and tempest creates/destroys users alongside their passwords17:14
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rodrigodsso we have a minimal set of such settings that can be currently tested in tempest17:15
rodrigodstwo of them are: user account lockout and password history requirements17:15
rodrigodsto test the first, we set a lockout duration where the user account is locked up after failed login attempts17:16
rodrigodsand in the second one, we define the number of passwords that must be unique, meaning the user can't reuse them17:16
andreafok17:16
rodrigodsso... for that i've created this change in devstack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377004/1217:17
rodrigodswhich sets these settings in keystone - meaning we are enabling them17:17
rodrigodsand this one to actually test the feature in tempest: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378624/17:17
rodrigodsi'd like to know if i'm doing that in the right way17:18
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rodrigodsfor example... we have tests that modify the password of a user, and it needs to be reset so the same credentials can be used in another tests17:18
rodrigodsso for this tests, the cleanup is made by changing the password until its history is cleaned up and we can reuse the same password17:19
rodrigods(more details in the reviews)17:19
rodrigodsbasically: do you have any feedback? if so, can we have some eyes on them (reviews)?17:20
andreafone option would be to create a new use for the purpose of the test17:21
rodrigodsandreaf, the problem is that we have "self password update" tests17:21
andreafhowever that would imply that the test can only run with admin credentials...17:22
rodrigodsi can do that... but would need to change how the tests are currently handled (test_users)17:22
rodrigodsandreaf, right... we have both cases17:22
rodrigodsadmin credentials and non-admin credentials17:22
andreafwe try to avoid using admin credentials where they are not strictly needed as it makes life easier for interop testing17:23
rodrigodsandreaf, there is just one case where admin credentials are required17:23
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rodrigodsin the password reset operation: admins can reset user's passwords not mattering the password history17:24
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andreafrodrigods: I put your change in my review list - I don't see any problem from your description but I need to check the code17:24
rodrigodsok, thanks andreaf17:25
rodrigodsyou can ping me if you have any questions about the feature itself17:25
andreafok will do17:27
andreafanything else on Tempest?17:27
rodrigodsonly had that topic :)17:28
andreafok - in terms of bugs, the current status is #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report17:28
andreafThe number of bugs in status "new" went down from 26 to 1917:29
andreafBut we still have a rather large number of issues in progress / confirmed / triaged17:29
rodrigods65, right?17:30
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andreafyes 65 open, 79 in progress17:31
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rodrigodsthat's a big number, i can also try to get some to fix17:31
andreafIf I remember lp settings properly, open ones are not assigned, in progress ones are17:32
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rodrigodsandreaf, correct17:32
andreafrodrigods: that would be great17:32
andreafrodrigods: I think at least some of in progress ones may be stale...17:32
andreafas 79 in progress sounds too much17:33
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rodrigodsright17:33
andreafok, anything else on Tempest bugs?17:33
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andreafI'll go quickly through the next topics, please stop me if you have something to say17:34
andreaf#topic DevStack + Grenade17:34
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rodrigodsok17:34
andreaf#topic openstack-health17:35
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andreaf#link list of open reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health+status:open17:35
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andreaf#topic Critical Reviews17:35
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andreafAny review that requires urgent attention?17:36
andreafI'll take that as a no17:36
rodrigodsPCI-DSS one :)17:36
andreafyes of course :)17:37
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378624/17:37
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377004/17:37
rodrigodsthanks andreaf17:37
andreafok and finally17:37
andreaf#topic Open Discussion17:38
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rodrigodsthink i'm good, all the details about the test i already gave above :)17:38
rodrigodsone thing is... if you need anything from the keystone side17:38
rodrigodsplease ping me17:39
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rodrigodsi'm one of the keystone cores that focus more on quality/tests17:39
andreafnice, good to know, thank you rodrigods17:39
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andreafOne note from my side: we have a set of Ocata priorities, but if there is any urgent need to a stable interface for a plugin do let the QA team know, so we can prioritise it17:41
rodrigodsi have a patch that moves one of the identity clients to tempest.lib17:41
andreafthanks do you have a link?17:42
rodrigodshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/381796/17:42
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rodrigodsthe other ones are moved in a follow up patch17:42
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381796/17:42
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andreafok, I guess we can get 15+ min of our lives back, no point in waiting until the end of the hour :)17:42
jordanPsorry I missed it again17:43
jordanPI've fixed my calendar now17:43
andreafthanks rodrigods, I look forward to see all the clients stable17:43
andreafjordanP: no worries - do you have anything to discuss before we close?17:44
jordanPhum.... nothin in particular, life is great17:44
andreafyay17:44
rodrigodslol17:45
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andreafok have a good rest of the day folks17:45
andreafthanks for attending!17:45
rodrigodsthanks!17:45
andreaf#endmeeting17:46
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