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| loquacities | hi! who's here for a docs meeting? | 00:30 |
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| loquacities | #startmeeting docteam | 00:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | muu? | 00:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 00:31:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 00:31 |
| loquacities | hi Sam-I-Am :) | 00:31 |
| loquacities | who else is here? | 00:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | yo | 00:31 |
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| bmoss | howdy | 00:32 |
| loquacities | heya bmoss | 00:32 |
| bmoss | o/ | 00:32 |
| loquacities | do we have katomo around? | 00:32 |
| loquacities | gosh, it's quiet | 00:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeop | 00:34 |
| bmoss | *chirp chirp* | 00:34 |
| loquacities | *sigh* | 00:34 |
| bmoss | everyone is too busy testing the install guide | 00:34 |
| loquacities | haha! | 00:34 |
| loquacities | i wish ;) | 00:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | uhhhh yeah :) | 00:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm in the middle of reorganizing the net guide deployment examples | 00:35 |
| loquacities | gee, that sounds like an awful lot of fun :S | 00:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | changing the format to building blocks, using instructional knowledge | 00:35 |
| loquacities | this is a good thing | 00:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | adding things like ipv6 | 00:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | its all sorts of fun | 00:35 |
| loquacities | heh | 00:35 |
| JRobinson__ | I'm here, small delay | 00:36 |
| loquacities | hi JRobinson__ | 00:36 |
| loquacities | looks like we're not going to make quorum again, though :( | 00:36 |
| katomo | Hi loquacities | 00:36 |
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| loquacities | oh, hi katomo! | 00:36 |
| JRobinson__ | katomo, o/ hi | 00:36 |
| loquacities | well, that's probably enough | 00:36 |
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| loquacities | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 00:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:37 | |
| loquacities | i can't see any | 00:37 |
| loquacities | #topic Specs in review | 00:37 |
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| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z | 00:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | there werent any from the last US meeting | 00:37 |
| loquacities | Sam-I-Am: yeah, i just checked ;) | 00:38 |
| loquacities | ok, so we have a couple of specs out | 00:38 |
| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354093/ Use openstack command to replace other commands | 00:38 |
| JRobinson__ | This one from Allen is about the OpenStack cli client changes | 00:38 |
| loquacities | and ti doesn't have a blueprint yet, right? | 00:38 |
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| JRobinson__ | I suggested some specific examples are needed. | 00:38 |
| * loquacities needs to go through the blueprints again soon | 00:38 | |
| JRobinson__ | Blueprint? one second | 00:38 |
| * loquacities holds | 00:39 | |
| JRobinson__ | Just this one -https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/use-openstack-command | 00:39 |
| JRobinson__ | this was created before the spec | 00:39 |
| loquacities | oh cool | 00:40 |
| JRobinson__ | So you can see three patches down on this blueprint. | 00:40 |
| loquacities | ah yes, i remember emailing him ;) | 00:40 |
| JRobinson__ | That's the work that started before the spec. | 00:40 |
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| loquacities | yep, all good | 00:40 |
| loquacities | thanks JRobinson__ | 00:40 |
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| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348940/ Adds specification to improve glossary usage | 00:40 |
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| loquacities | this one has already well and truly started | 00:41 |
| loquacities | there's a bunch of reviews out for it | 00:41 |
| JRobinson__ | loquacities, np, | 00:41 |
| loquacities | and finally ... | 00:41 |
| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336007/ Release notes guidelines | 00:41 |
| loquacities | i think that one is ready to merge too | 00:42 |
| katomo | need +1 from Doug? | 00:42 |
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| loquacities | yeah, it's probably good to wait | 00:43 |
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| katomo | ok | 00:43 |
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| loquacities | he hasn't looked at it since 5 july, so we might need to ping him | 00:43 |
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| loquacities | ok, anything else on specs? | 00:44 |
| JRobinson__ | That's likely all for now | 00:44 |
| loquacities | cool | 00:44 |
| loquacities | #topic Speciality teams | 00:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Speciality teams (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:44 | |
| loquacities | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Speciality_Team_Reports | 00:44 |
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| loquacities | #info install guide testing has started | 00:44 |
| loquacities | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/NewtonDocTesting | 00:45 |
| loquacities | any reports from other speciality teams? | 00:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | networking guide is getting some reorg | 00:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | the big reorg patch backport to mitaka merged, along with the redirects | 00:45 |
| loquacities | i appreciate you doing that, it's going to be great once it's done | 00:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | now i'm working on the actual content | 00:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a huge mess :) | 00:46 |
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| JRobinson__ | Just for the User Guide - I've merged the spec, which had enough reviews, I created the blueprint, and I'm going to start editing for O release. | 00:46 |
| loquacities | it's a neverending story ;) | 00:46 |
| loquacities | cool, thanks JRobinson__ | 00:46 |
| loquacities | shall we move on? | 00:47 |
| katomo | nothing from config/cli ref at this week | 00:47 |
| JRobinson__ | We'll see how much is ready by release date. As discussed, it will carry over to the next cycle. | 00:47 |
| loquacities | ok, thanks katomo | 00:47 |
| loquacities | JRobinson__: yeah, that's expected | 00:47 |
| loquacities | #topic Countdown to release | 00:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Countdown to release (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:47 | |
| loquacities | #info 42 days to go! | 00:47 |
| loquacities | so that's 6 weeks tomorrow | 00:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, wtf heh | 00:48 |
| loquacities | it goes so fast! | 00:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | feels like we just did this | 00:48 |
| loquacities | it seems like we're constantly doing this ;) | 00:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | pays the bills, for now. | 00:48 |
| loquacities | PTL elections will be up again soon, too :S | 00:48 |
| loquacities | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/NewtonDeliverables | 00:49 |
| loquacities | the list is very close to complete | 00:49 |
| loquacities | i think we've had a good release, so far anyway ;) | 00:49 |
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| loquacities | very soon i'll have to start planning release activities | 00:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, the install guide is going to be interesting | 00:50 |
| loquacities | true | 00:50 |
| loquacities | on the upside, fewer projects this time around | 00:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, for docs to test... sure. but the overall experience is bound to be pretty bad for people. | 00:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | since we dont know what the projects are doing | 00:50 |
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| loquacities | yeah, it'll be interesting to see what the fallout is | 00:51 |
| loquacities | in some ways, it'll be better because at least people can *find* install info | 00:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes, but it also has to work | 00:51 |
| loquacities | on the other hand, it might not be the quality they expect ... | 00:51 |
| loquacities | yeah | 00:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | prior to havana people could find install info too. it just didnt work. | 00:51 |
| loquacities | lol | 00:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | so we're more or less turning back that clock | 00:52 |
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| loquacities | there's no other way to document them all, though | 00:52 |
| loquacities | we couldn't keep going how we were | 00:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, we'd need to move to a source install to include all the potential big-tent projects without packages | 00:52 |
| loquacities | we'd still have the same problem with trying to write it all, though | 00:53 |
| loquacities | but source would definitely help come testing time | 00:53 |
| loquacities | i wish the people who were vocal about package install would spend more time testing | 00:53 |
| loquacities | anyway, we've drifted off topic | 00:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | its interesting that no one sees the big picture that we need assistance from operators to rewrite the install guide using source | 00:53 |
| loquacities | #topic Open discussion | 00:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:53 | |
| Sam-I-Am | the install guide is a Big Deal | 00:53 |
| loquacities | we can't get operators to help with the ops guide, and they actually care about that book | 00:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | it benefits everyone in openstack to have it work and support the widest variety of projects | 00:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll be at the ops mid-cycle this week | 00:54 |
| loquacities | you and i know this, but to everyone else it's SEP | 00:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | usually people seem interested, the nothing happens | 00:54 |
| loquacities | cool, well, get on to them ;) | 00:55 |
| loquacities | yeah, we've noticed that ... | 00:55 |
| loquacities | we have the same problem in the ops session every summit | 00:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'll be trying again, of course. | 00:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | being the moderator for the docs session | 00:55 |
| loquacities | thanks, it's much appreciateed | 00:55 |
| loquacities | yay! | 00:55 |
| loquacities | you and darrenc should get together beforehand | 00:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think they're just so tied into their own deployments its difficult to find some to contribute upstream... i guess. | 00:55 |
| loquacities | anyway, this has turned into an airing of grievances | 00:55 |
| loquacities | was there anything from anyone else? | 00:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | haha | 00:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | what else is new :) | 00:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | tis openstack | 00:56 |
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| bmoss | I don't have anything else to add. | 00:56 |
| loquacities | ok, cool | 00:56 |
| katomo | no | 00:56 |
| loquacities | thanks everyone for coming! | 00:56 |
| JRobinson__ | No, that's all :) | 00:56 |
| loquacities | #endmeeting | 00:56 |
| katomo | thanks, all | 00:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 00:56:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-08-24-00.31.html | 00:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-08-24-00.31.txt | 00:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-08-24-00.31.log.html | 00:56 |
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| JRobinson__ | Thank you everyone :) later | 00:57 |
| loquacities | cya o/ | 00:57 |
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| ramishra | #startmeeting heat | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 08:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 08:00 |
| ramishra | #topic roll call | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: heat)" | 08:00 | |
| ricolin | o/ | 08:00 |
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| prazumovsky | hi all | 08:01 |
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| skraynev | 0/ | 08:02 |
| elynn_ | o/ | 08:02 |
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| tiantian | hi | 08:03 |
| ramishra | ok let's move on we can finish this quickly and get on with the reviews;) | 08:03 |
| ramishra | #topic Adding items to agenda | 08:03 |
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| ramishra | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-08-24_0800_UTC.29 | 08:03 |
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| ramishra | anything else we want to discuss? else it's all about the n3-status. | 08:05 |
| ramishra | #topic n3-status | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "n3-status (Meeting topic: heat)" | 08:05 | |
| ramishra | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/newton-3 | 08:05 |
| skraynev | ramishra: when do we plan release n3 ? | 08:06 |
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| skraynev | at the end of this week? | 08:06 |
| ramishra | next week I assume | 08:06 |
| prazumovsky | I know, that there is document with high priority reviews, that should be landed in n-3 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-newton-reviews | 08:06 |
| skraynev | Oh. then it's ok, because we plan to review more patches during this week | 08:06 |
| stevebaker | hi! | 08:06 |
| ramishra | https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 08:06 |
| ramishra | this says Aug29-02 | 08:07 |
| skraynev | prazumovsky , ramishra: I suppose, that we may move it out from the n3 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/get-reality-for-resources . am I right? | 08:07 |
| ramishra | yeah and lbaas-l7-rules-support too | 08:07 |
| skraynev | ramishra: ok, middle of the next week sounds ok | 08:07 |
| ramishra | it seems it's stuck with some neutron patches yet to merge | 08:08 |
| prazumovsky | Think, you're right, but nova and cinder resources prefer to land to n-3 | 08:08 |
| skraynev | ramishra: yeah, AFAIk it is blocked by some changes in lbaas project | 08:08 |
| skraynev | prazumovsky: I beleive we may land them without BP | 08:08 |
| skraynev | just want to be sure, that it's not blocker for n3 | 08:08 |
| prazumovsky | No problems | 08:09 |
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| stevebaker | I'd really like this to land so I can do the downstream packaging https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/tempest-plugin-support | 08:09 |
| ramishra | yeah, I agree we can land them as they get reviewed, there are too many patches to get in before next week:) | 08:09 |
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| ramishra | I think the other bps should land before next week including the tempest plugin | 08:10 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: I assume there is one left in the series, right? | 08:10 |
| stevebaker | 2? | 08:10 |
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| ramishra | k | 08:10 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: we will take a look it ;) | 08:10 |
| stevebaker | oh, 1. sweet | 08:10 |
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| skraynev | coul you please share the link ? | 08:10 |
| stevebaker | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349741/ | 08:10 |
| tiantian | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/support-conditions-function+status:open I hope these patches merged before n3:) | 08:10 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: ^ | 08:10 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: I checked it this morning;) | 08:10 |
| stevebaker | yes, lets get support-conditions-function in too | 08:11 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: phew.. removed 200 lines ;) it looks like easy job for review. | 08:11 |
| tiantian | stevebaker, thanks:) | 08:11 |
| stevebaker | thats the kind we like | 08:11 |
| ramishra | I think rest of the bps are exected to be reviewed in time to land. | 08:11 |
| stevebaker | I haven't looked into why the gate fails so often, but its been real bad | 08:12 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: there are 2/3 known issues. | 08:12 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: looks like this is completed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/convergence-migrate-stack ? | 08:12 |
| ramishra | yep landed this morning. | 08:12 |
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| ricolin | it suffer in gate for hole week | 08:13 |
| skraynev | unfortunately ochyprikov in vacation, so could you update it ? | 08:13 |
| skraynev | ricolin: one patch ? :) | 08:13 |
| skraynev | awful | 08:13 |
| ricolin | ya, one patch | 08:14 |
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| ramishra | that sql command out of sync issue is the major reason and there is autoscaling/loadbalancer issue I've seen frequently in the last few days. | 08:15 |
| skraynev | ramishra: I see ,that also half work was done for merging envs BP | 08:15 |
| ramishra | other than these two I've not seen anything that needs investigation though. | 08:15 |
| skraynev | I supose, that you expected, that it be merged too, right? | 08:15 |
| ramishra | yes, it would be, I would push shardy for review tomorrow. | 08:16 |
| stevebaker | merge it all! | 08:16 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: lol | 08:17 |
| ramishra | yes:) | 08:17 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: need mobile app with one button: "Merge them all" ! :) | 08:17 |
| ramishra | We've some convergence patches that need to land too. | 08:17 |
| ramishra | Else, we would have to remove from default. | 08:18 |
| skraynev | ramishra: do they mentioned in bugs? | 08:18 |
| stevebaker | keep the etherpad up to date if you want it reviewed https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-newton-reviews | 08:18 |
| ramishra | I assume that can land after FF as I don't see any bp for that, they are all bugs | 08:18 |
| skraynev | ramishra: could we add section to etherpad about these patches ? | 08:19 |
| skraynev | like "should be merged for converge" - otherwise disable convergence by default | 08:19 |
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| ramishra | yes I'll add them | 08:19 |
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| stevebaker | yeah, we can push bugs off to make way for feature reviews | 08:20 |
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| ramishra | zaneb is reviewing those patches and conditions patches for them to land before next week. | 08:20 |
| ramishra | so we seem in good shape:) | 08:21 |
| ramishra | #topic Design summit spaces ? | 08:21 |
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| skraynev | it's mine | 08:22 |
| skraynev | I just saw several mail about discussion of Design summit topics | 08:22 |
| skraynev | so decided to ask: did we get request about spaces ? | 08:22 |
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| skraynev | probably this question for therve | 08:23 |
| ramishra | therve would have got the mail, can anyone else respond? | 08:23 |
| stevebaker | maybe therve did by he is away. As usual this is a question for the new PTL which we don't have yet | 08:23 |
| skraynev | but may be somebody knows | 08:23 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: oh. true. | 08:23 |
| stevebaker | the last allocations seemed fine, and there is less space this time so lets just ask for proportionally less | 08:23 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: +1 | 08:24 |
| ramishra | 4+8 was last time right? | 08:24 |
| skraynev | just need to ping ttx or somebody else, who is responsiable for it | 08:24 |
| ramishra | 4 fishbowls and 8 work sessions. | 08:24 |
| skraynev | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Newton/Etherpads#Heat | 08:25 |
| skraynev | and half day meet-up of course :) | 08:25 |
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| ramishra | yeah, we may ask for the same and see what we get. | 08:25 |
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| ramishra | not sure if therve had done this yet. | 08:26 |
| stevebaker | I do wonder if we're struggling to fill all those slots with meaningful topics | 08:26 |
| ramishra | skraynev: would you be able to update ttx about it informally | 08:26 |
| skraynev | ramishra: yeah. I will try to ping him today | 08:27 |
| ricolin | also care the dependance with other teams | 08:27 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: yeah, I also thought about the same, without topics do we know how many we need? | 08:27 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: good question. unfortunately we have not answer yet :) | 08:27 |
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| ramishra | easy is ask for the same as last time;) | 08:28 |
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| stevebaker | its an inversion of what we need to do, PTL first, then topics, then slots | 08:28 |
| skraynev | ramishra: based on previous experience we may do brain storm and generate a lot of topics | 08:28 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: +1 | 08:28 |
| stevebaker | but I realise we can't do it that way, so lets make the best of it | 08:29 |
| ricolin | maybe we can start to collect slots first? | 08:29 |
| ricolin | I mean "topics" | 08:29 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: I can ask ttx, about end of time for submitting final number of topics. | 08:30 |
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| skraynev | and we will use this time for investigation | 08:30 |
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| stevebaker | yeah, I'm sure we could give up slots that we don't need and they will be useful to someone - lets just ask for the same as last time | 08:30 |
| skraynev | ok | 08:30 |
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| ramishra | may be add the topics to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-heat | 08:32 |
| ricolin | ramishra: +1 | 08:33 |
| ramishra | #topic open discussion | 08:33 |
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| ramishra | anything we want to discuss? | 08:33 |
| stevebaker | I realise everyone is snowed with feature freeze reviews, but... | 08:34 |
| stevebaker | I've got this series in heat-templates, and once it lands I can do downstream packaging to make it way easier to install the heat agent projects for software deployments https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat-templates+branch:master+topic:centos-rdo-boot-config | 08:34 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: will look at them this week | 08:35 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: thanks, this packaging could be used for the agent container too | 08:36 |
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| ramishra | yep:) | 08:36 |
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| stevebaker | that is all I have | 08:37 |
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| ramishra | So should we go back to revewing stuff now? | 08:37 |
| ramishra | back to #heat | 08:37 |
| stevebaker | sure | 08:37 |
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| stevebaker | night all | 08:37 |
| ramishra | ok then. | 08:38 |
| ramishra | #endmeeting | 08:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 08:38:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-08-24-08.00.html | 08:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-08-24-08.00.txt | 08:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-08-24-08.00.log.html | 08:38 |
| ramishra | thanks all! | 08:38 |
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| ralonsoh | ajo: I'm going to rebase your commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356512/ | 08:59 |
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| BobBall | #startmeeting XenAPI | 09:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 09:31:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is BobBall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 09:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 09:31 |
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| BobBall | Good morning / afternoon all. | 09:31 |
| BobBall | Ping for johnthetubaguy too :) | 09:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I spotted your email, yet to update my calendar | 09:31 |
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| BobBall | No worries. Not sure how we got out of sync, but I proposed a fix to the upstream ical and the response was "there is no conflict" :) | 09:32 |
| BobBall | Our biweekly was odd and scientific-wg is even :P | 09:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | I suspect it was at the beginning of the year | 09:32 |
| huanxie | Hi Bob and all | 09:32 |
| BobBall | (or the other way round) | 09:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we had two odd weeks or something, at the end of last year | 09:32 |
| BobBall | Well, hopefully now I've got the invite from the ical it will keep the right time. | 09:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean end of last, beginning of this | 09:33 |
| jianghuaw | hello. every one. | 09:33 |
| BobBall | #topic Blueprints / Reviews | 09:33 |
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| BobBall | OK - couple of things this week... | 09:33 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: Are you aware of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289431/ ? | 09:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083216.html | 09:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: yeah, hadn't seen it was fixed up though | 09:34 |
| BobBall | So this change is something that we *really* want in Newton | 09:34 |
| BobBall | If we don't get the .py extension added now, it'll be a whole release before we can fix it again | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the original idea was that .py were utils and the others were plugins | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | not sure why we did that though | 09:35 |
| BobBall | Understood, but flake8 won't run on non-.py stuff :( | 09:35 |
| BobBall | Possibly just because that's how XS does it in our plugins | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | yep, and the unit tests go strange when you add "c" to the filename | 09:35 |
| BobBall | But actually, xapi doesn't care what the name of the file is | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I suspect it was just copying the pattern | 09:35 |
| BobBall | heh :D yes. agentc ... | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | did we update the permissions on the files? | 09:36 |
| BobBall | Why are they wrong? | 09:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, I think the plugins and utils were different | 09:36 |
| BobBall | plugins must be executable | 09:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | gerrit kinda hides all that detail | 09:37 |
| BobBall | utils don't need to be | 09:37 |
| BobBall | if plugins are not executable then XAPI can't load them. | 09:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | right, which we have broke in the past | 09:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | its really something the packaging should worry about I guess | 09:37 |
| BobBall | Yeah, I agree with that | 09:37 |
| BobBall | Anyway - any chance you can find time to review the change? | 09:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, we can make it separate to that change | 09:38 |
| BobBall | As I said, it's one that really needs to be in N so we can fix it finally in O | 09:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | dang it, we are adding mox tests | 09:39 |
| BobBall | yeah, because it's using the same session stuff... just following the existing pattern | 09:39 |
| BobBall | I remember that was the recommendation at some point - is it now stricter and zero new mox tests? | 09:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yes | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | its zero new mock tests now | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | because there is a BP trying to convert all the mox tests to mock | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | if we keep adding them, it will never finish | 09:41 |
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| BobBall | Ah. I missed that. | 09:41 |
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| BobBall | Thankfully this *should* be a simple test to mockify | 09:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so the compat here | 09:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | the idea is to make sure we can have older versions of the plugins on the disk? | 09:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | or newer plugins work with older code? | 09:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I am not seeing any sym links, thats whats confusing me | 09:43 |
| BobBall | The idea is to say that once Newton is out we can update plugin version to 2.0. As long as Nova doesn't depend on new functionality (e.g. 2.1+) then you can deploy the new plugins | 09:44 |
| BobBall | symlinks are there just not shown by gerrit | 09:44 |
| BobBall | I think | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I checked out the code, I don't see them, unless I am missing something | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | gerrit normally shows sym links | 09:44 |
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| BobBall | hmmm... They were definitely in a previous version | 09:45 |
| BobBall | Yeah - I don't see them either eeek | 09:45 |
| BobBall | Well - that's not a huge deal as the packaging / deploying can always add the symlink | 09:46 |
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| BobBall | but yes, the commit message says they should be there. | 09:46 |
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| BobBall | Are you going to leave that feedback as a review comment, or shall I? | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | I can leave those comments | 09:46 |
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| BobBall | ok | 09:46 |
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| BobBall | Let's move on then | 09:47 |
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| BobBall | Anything else on blueprints? | 09:47 |
| jianghuaw | Hi Bob and johnthetubaguy, our second proposal on VGPU was rejected in Newton. Now we are planning to re-start this work for Ocata. The last comment is to generalize the PCI devices. | 09:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I think the problem there is around the resource providers | 09:48 |
| jianghuaw | johnthetubaguy, could you give some advice> | 09:48 |
| BobBall | Right - so this one we tried to start a ML thread about this since there were open questions | 09:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | we now have a system we can model what we have more precisely, so we should do that | 09:48 |
| BobBall | but there was no engagement on the ML and jay pipes was clearly over-worked at the time | 09:48 |
| BobBall | Is resource providers complete in Newton? | 09:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | nope | 09:48 |
| BobBall | I didn't think it was | 09:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | but this feature will be blocked till it is complete enough to add vGPU, I suspect | 09:49 |
| BobBall | I see. Do you know if that's planned to be complete enough in Ocata? | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | the ironic stuff, with dynamic resource types, feels quite similar to the VGPU stuff I guess | 09:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | unsure, I just don't have enough visibility into the ordering of all the moving parts | 09:50 |
| BobBall | OK. I think we need to discuss with jay pipes to understand the ordering and whether there are useful things we can do to help move it along | 09:51 |
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| jianghuaw | Yes. Thanks John for the input. | 09:52 |
| BobBall | OK - anything else for blueprints / reviews? | 09:52 |
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| jianghuaw | Another BP: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274045/ | 09:52 |
| jianghuaw | Please help to review on it when you have time. | 09:53 |
| jianghuaw | thanks. | 09:53 |
| BobBall | Hmmm yes | 09:53 |
| BobBall | Let's discuss that one offline jianghuaw | 09:53 |
| jianghuaw | Sure. thanks. | 09:54 |
| BobBall | It's ready for review, and the best it can be, but my concern is that it needs quite "ugly" parsing code in Nova. | 09:54 |
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| BobBall | A more important blueprint, when we have it available, will be to introduce os-xenapi | 09:54 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, it may be a good excuse to create that | 09:55 |
| BobBall | I'd definitely rather push for extracting out common code into a new library rather than pushing for the VDI store streaming | 09:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | that might be a better place for python 2.4 code to live, etc | 09:55 |
| BobBall | While we have johnthetubaguy ... Interesting question ... | 09:55 |
| BobBall | Yes. That's what I was going to say. | 09:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I am not against that approach | 09:56 |
| BobBall | If Nova depends on a particular version of os-xenapi then the plugins could be moved there, and Nova using a python interface to os-xenapi to get specific functionality | 09:56 |
| BobBall | which happens to be implemented in a plugin in dom0 in os-xenapi | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats a nice clean cut | 09:56 |
| BobBall | The other thought was some of the tools that are currently in Nova's tree | 09:56 |
| BobBall | which are unmaintained ATM | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | so there is an ops repo for that stuff now | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | os-ops | 09:57 |
| BobBall | They seem a better fit for a common xenapi library or the ops repo | 09:57 |
| BobBall | yes | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Osops | 09:57 |
| BobBall | but the ops repo I think doesn't import nova utilities stuff | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | right, but those scripts really shouldn't be doing that | 09:57 |
| BobBall | so the tools can only use cli-based things? | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | its not a stable interface | 09:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | mostly those tools only use REST APIs | 09:57 |
| BobBall | Indeed. As was proven when they broke. | 09:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, just deleting them is the kindest thing | 09:58 |
| BobBall | How do we delete tools? Add big warning messages when they run to say they are deprecated and wait a cycle? | 09:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so its totally broken right now, and has been for over a cycle | 09:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am OK counting that as deprecated | 09:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | not sure if all the reviewers would agree with me | 09:59 |
| BobBall | Understood. We can submit a change to delete the tools and see what feedback comes back. | 09:59 |
| BobBall | OK - moving on. | 09:59 |
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| BobBall | Anything else in the last 30 seconds? | 09:59 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oh, feature classification | 10:00 |
| huazhihao | A small one for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299092/ | 10:00 |
| huanxie | I have a patch fixing live-migrate https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359548/2 | 10:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | its slowly happening | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/feature_classification.html | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | XenServer is listed there, hence the heads up | 10:00 |
| BobBall | Anything you need us to do for that johnthetubaguy ? | 10:01 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: huanxie's patch is potentially important for Rackspace: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359548 | 10:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I think "custom disk configurations on boot" should probably be a red cross thinking about it, but a double check would be great | 10:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: I remember you mentioning about that patch somewhen | 10:01 |
| BobBall | You could work around it by setting the value in /etc/xapi.conf even though it's not needed, but Huan's change should fix it | 10:02 |
| BobBall | Ah - and huazhihao's change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299092 is a trivial fix | 10:02 |
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| BobBall | ovs_integration_bridge setting to xapi1 in Nova is going to be wrong more times than it's right, so we wanted to remove the default so people have to set it if using Neutron | 10:03 |
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| BobBall | OK - so actually I think we're keen to get huazhihao's, huanxie's and the .py fixes all into Newton if we can | 10:04 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: Can you remind me? Is n-3 the deadline for those, or is RC1 the deadline for bug fixes? | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | RC1 | 10:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | but... we do only let through lower risk bug fixes as we approach RC, and focus more on regressions. | 10:06 |
| BobBall | Understood. So we need to push these bugfixes now and before n-3 if at all possible. | 10:07 |
| BobBall | n-3 is 1 week on Friday, so we don't have much time to push for them. | 10:07 |
| BobBall | I think there's nothing else? | 10:08 |
| huanxie | None for me | 10:08 |
| BobBall | Unless there is anything else, we should close the meeting there. | 10:08 |
| BobBall | 3.... | 10:08 |
| BobBall | 2... | 10:08 |
| BobBall | 1...... | 10:08 |
| BobBall | Thanks all! :) | 10:09 |
| BobBall | #endmeeting | 10:09 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 10:09:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:09 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-08-24-09.31.html | 10:09 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-08-24-09.31.txt | 10:09 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-08-24-09.31.log.html | 10:09 |
| huazhihao | Thanks Bob and John | 10:09 |
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| jianghuaw | Thanks John and Bob. | 10:10 |
| huanxie | Thanks all:) | 10:10 |
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| prometheanfire | #startmeeting requirements | 11:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 11:59:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 11:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'requirements' | 11:59 |
| prometheanfire | #topic rollcall | 11:59 |
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| toabctl | hi | 11:59 |
| dirk | o/ | 12:00 |
| tonyb | o/ | 12:00 |
| number80 | o/ | 12:00 |
| prometheanfire | sigmavirus: you too | 12:00 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 12:00 |
| prometheanfire | there you go :D | 12:00 |
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| prometheanfire | ok, more people than normal | 12:01 |
| prometheanfire | #topic controversies in the Queue? | 12:02 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: we need to be careful with osc 3.0.1 | 12:03 |
| prometheanfire | gate's slow, openstacksdk needs a bump but we are waiting on upstream for a new release | 12:03 |
| tonyb | but with the gate as wedged as it is we're kinda stuck | 12:03 |
| prometheanfire | ya, osc too | 12:03 |
| tonyb | we can't get the u-c changes in befoer the bot triggers :( | 12:03 |
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| prometheanfire | ya | 12:04 |
| prometheanfire | anything specific about osc? | 12:04 |
| tonyb | just that it's a really big chnage and has the potrntial to break a lot | 12:05 |
| tonyb | puppet are working with RDO to verify that side is cool | 12:05 |
| prometheanfire | ah | 12:05 |
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| tonyb | once the ACK we just need buy in from shade | 12:05 |
| sigmavirus | shade uses osc? | 12:06 |
| prometheanfire | k | 12:06 |
| sigmavirus | nevermind, not important | 12:06 |
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| prometheanfire | next? | 12:06 |
| tonyb | +1 | 12:06 |
| prometheanfire | #topic Requirements freeze R-5 (Aug 29 - Sept 02) | 12:06 |
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| prometheanfire | so, how does this work, with gate slow and all | 12:07 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: badly :( | 12:07 |
| sigmavirus | you prioritize against the slow gate | 12:07 |
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| sigmavirus | work with changeset authors to figure out what needs to get in before the freeze, some things won't be as high a priority as others and so you make the hard decision and work the important ones through the gate | 12:08 |
| prometheanfire | what I mean is, hard or soft cutoff? | 12:08 |
| tonyb | sigmavirus: sure | 12:08 |
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| prometheanfire | all changes submitted before/during that time frame can be merged | 12:09 |
| prometheanfire | and should we make an announce to the list (though it's on the schedule | 12:10 |
| tonyb | Perhaps all by 29th anything later are we can't make a promise | 12:10 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 12:10 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah we do need an email to the list as well | 12:10 |
| dirk | +1 | 12:10 |
| prometheanfire | who wants to do that? | 12:10 |
| * tonyb will | 12:10 | |
| number80 | *nods* | 12:11 |
| prometheanfire | #action tonyb email the list about the Requirements freeze R-5 (Aug 29 - Sept 02), Perhaps all by 29th anything later are we can't make a promise | 12:11 |
| prometheanfire | next? | 12:11 |
| tonyb | +1 | 12:11 |
| prometheanfire | #topic Barcelona Design Summit | 12:12 |
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| prometheanfire | who's going? | 12:12 |
| * prometheanfire is not | 12:12 | |
| * tonyb will be there | 12:12 | |
| sigmavirus | not I | 12:12 |
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| prometheanfire | ya, don't think many are going | 12:13 |
| tonyb | phooey | 12:13 |
| * prometheanfire wanted to go, but can't :( | 12:13 | |
| prometheanfire | space requirements? | 12:14 |
| number80 | o/ | 12:14 |
| prometheanfire | number80: you going? | 12:14 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: what rooms do we need (if any) | 12:14 |
| number80 | prometheanfire: yes | 12:14 |
| prometheanfire | tonyb: I think a quick status update meeting would be nice | 12:14 |
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| tonyb | I was thinking 1 fishbowl and maybe a meetup but that seems like overkill based on who'll be there | 12:15 |
| prometheanfire | beyond that, not sure if any are needed | 12:15 |
| prometheanfire | ya | 12:15 |
| dirk | A work Session is always good | 12:15 |
| dirk | Main issue with Barcelona is space though | 12:15 |
| number80 | I agree we need at least one session | 12:15 |
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| dirk | (space/slots/time) | 12:16 |
| tonyb | dirk: We can ask. | 12:16 |
| prometheanfire | ok, next? | 12:16 |
| dirk | I think it was just about submitting your wishes | 12:17 |
| tonyb | DO we really think we'll get value out of a meetup? We could just have lunch/dinner/beer | 12:17 |
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| dirk | Yeah, I think either a fishbowl or a work session has more vakue | 12:17 |
| prometheanfire | I think an informal thing would be nice | 12:17 |
| prometheanfire | dirk++ | 12:17 |
| tonyb | Will we actually work on anything as a team? | 12:17 |
| dirk | +1 for informal meetup | 12:17 |
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| tonyb | okay I'll request a fishbowl | 12:18 |
| prometheanfire | k | 12:18 |
| dirk | tonyb: knowledge transfer is always good | 12:18 |
| dirk | I know that I can ask lots of questions to fill up the slot if wanted ;-) | 12:18 |
| tonyb | dirk: yeah. | 12:19 |
| tonyb | dirk: :) | 12:19 |
| prometheanfire | who want's to make sure we have a fishbowl? | 12:19 |
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| tonyb | prometheanfire: I will | 12:19 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: I have an email to reply to from ttx | 12:19 |
| prometheanfire | #action tonyb make sure we have a fishbowl at the conf | 12:19 |
| prometheanfire | next? | 12:19 |
| tonyb | +1 | 12:19 |
| prometheanfire | #topic mascot | 12:20 |
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| prometheanfire | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-team-mascot | 12:20 |
| prometheanfire | our options were picked | 12:20 |
| tonyb | Well scorpion was/is available but I'm not sure that's the image we want | 12:20 |
| prometheanfire | waterfall would be funny, given it's dev connotations | 12:20 |
| tonyb | "the sting in the tail" | 12:20 |
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| tonyb | So I was thinking we could just mark up the options and go with that. | 12:21 |
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| tonyb | You can pick more than one option but only vote once for a given option | 12:22 |
| tonyb | I'm not sure any of the options really screams "requirements" to me | 12:22 |
| prometheanfire | something that's dependant upon for the community | 12:23 |
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| prometheanfire | so, earth, or a field of grass | 12:23 |
| prometheanfire | or something | 12:23 |
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| dirk | Riverbed perhaps? | 12:23 |
| prometheanfire | http://famouswonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/serengeti-landscape.jpg | 12:23 |
| prometheanfire | dirk: do you want another quantum, because that's how you get another quantum :P | 12:24 |
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| dirk | prometheanfire: ;-) | 12:24 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: interesting idea | 12:25 |
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| prometheanfire | added to list | 12:25 |
| tonyb | cool | 12:26 |
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| tonyb | give it say 24 hours and then we'll get back to Heidi | 12:26 |
| prometheanfire | k | 12:26 |
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| prometheanfire | next? | 12:28 |
| tonyb | +1 | 12:28 |
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| prometheanfire | #topic Tasks from Etherpad | 12:28 |
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| prometheanfire | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-tasks | 12:28 |
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| prometheanfire | I've been working with other project trying to get 20 solved | 12:29 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Thanks again for checking up on the bot failures | 12:29 |
| prometheanfire | tony has helped :D | 12:29 |
| prometheanfire | anyone else working on anything from the list? | 12:30 |
| tonyb | I'm workign on 18 but only slowly | 12:30 |
| tonyb | and 2 | 12:31 |
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| prometheanfire | k, it'd be nice to have 2 done before the summit :P | 12:32 |
| prometheanfire | next? | 12:32 |
| dirk | +1 | 12:32 |
| tonyb | +1 | 12:32 |
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| prometheanfire | #topic Volunteer for next 2 meetings | 12:32 |
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| prometheanfire | Aug 31 - coolsvap | 12:32 |
| prometheanfire | Sep 14 - ??? | 12:33 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: what happend to Sept 7th? | 12:33 |
| tonyb | :D | 12:33 |
| prometheanfire | oh, missed that | 12:33 |
| sigmavirus | tonyb: september 7th is not on my calendar | 12:33 |
| prometheanfire | Sep 07 - ??? | 12:33 |
| prometheanfire | sigmavirus: you volunteering? | 12:34 |
| prometheanfire | way to be seen sir | 12:34 |
| sigmavirus | No I'm not. I generally don't make it to these any longer | 12:34 |
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| tonyb | any takers? | 12:34 |
| prometheanfire | I can do either the 7th or 14th | 12:34 |
| prometheanfire | but would rather not take both | 12:35 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: ok you take one and put me down for t'other | 12:35 |
| prometheanfire | ok, I'd rather take the 14th if possible | 12:35 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: works for me | 12:35 |
| prometheanfire | k | 12:35 |
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| prometheanfire | #action tonyb run the sept 7 meeting | 12:36 |
| prometheanfire | #action prometheanfire run the sept 14 meeting | 12:36 |
| prometheanfire | #topic optional-requirements | 12:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "optional-requirements (Meeting topic: requirements)" | 12:37 | |
| prometheanfire | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/optional-requirements-draft | 12:37 |
| prometheanfire | number80: ? | 12:37 |
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| number80 | yes | 12:37 |
| number80 | first, I'd like to hear what is blocking us, it's not clear for me | 12:38 |
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| number80 | If there's nothing against it, I may just push a review and ask feedback on the list | 12:38 |
| prometheanfire | how it'd integrate with other projects | 12:38 |
| tonyb | number80: I'm not sure I understand the point. Doesn't it just complicate all out tooling? | 12:39 |
| dirk | How is optional req different from global requirements except that it allows duplication? | 12:40 |
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| number80 | tonyb: the idea is to track libraries that are not essential for runtime but provides additional goodies (performance boost, etc.) | 12:40 |
| prometheanfire | how is the behavior of it's use differ | 12:40 |
| prometheanfire | would we just check against both files when updating? | 12:40 |
| number80 | dirk: that could be a way to summarize it, the goal is to relax rules when we can | 12:40 |
| dirk | Is this just that we know which requirements are more central to meet than others? | 12:40 |
| prometheanfire | can we just comment gr/uc instead? | 12:40 |
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| number80 | dirk: yes, and it would encourage people to use abstraction layers e.g anyjson | 12:41 |
| sigmavirus | number80: which rules need be relaxed? | 12:41 |
| number80 | sigmavirus: no feature duplication | 12:41 |
| tonyb | Yeah I'd rather do it in g-r either in seperate section or with a local comment | 12:41 |
| tonyb | but fundamentally we still ned to ensure co-installability so we still need to do the same work | 12:42 |
| number80 | IMHO, what we want is not to require dozen of libraries doing the same thing to run an openstack cloud | 12:42 |
| number80 | tonyb: that's a good compromise (the section proposal) | 12:42 |
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| tonyb | number80: right 1 or 2 with *very good* reasons but not dozens | 12:42 |
| prometheanfire | +1 the section idea | 12:43 |
| dirk | number80: I'm not sure that's easy to achieve though | 12:43 |
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| dirk | Like e.g. pymysql vs pgsql | 12:43 |
| number80 | tonyb: yep, the goal is that additional goodies should remain non-essential but still tracked and tested | 12:43 |
| dirk | Which one is core which one is optional? | 12:43 |
| number80 | dirk: I think this falls under the backend category and when we should favor any of them | 12:44 |
| tonyb | dirk: the first is "core" the additional ones would become extra | 12:44 |
| tonyb | dirk: we'd only allow a duplicate library if it had a *really good* reason | 12:45 |
| tonyb | my $0.02 | 12:45 |
| number80 | but we could enforce that a specific mysql python driver must be supported | 12:45 |
| prometheanfire | somehow, not sure how | 12:45 |
| number80 | and allow another one if it brings performance improvement for instance | 12:45 |
| prometheanfire | gating only on one set would help maybe | 12:45 |
| dirk | To be honest I prefer one more library over one that exists but that has 200 dependencies | 12:46 |
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| number80 | dirk: that could fall under the "very good reasons" to accept it | 12:46 |
| tonyb | One of the things we shoudl do is facilite movement from $old to $new if we create that situation | 12:47 |
| dirk | I understand the reason that we want to keep things 'small' and 'manageable' bit that's a complex thing, not just in/out imho | 12:47 |
| dirk | Right, I see value in documentation $old->$new | 12:48 |
| dirk | E.g. add a deprecated-by comment to g-r deps? | 12:48 |
| number80 | +1 | 12:48 |
| prometheanfire | are we removing the old? | 12:48 |
| tonyb | dirk: we need to do more than document | 12:49 |
| tonyb | dirk: that's how we end up with libraries that are stuck on 2year old releases | 12:49 |
| number80 | I think this could be a cross-project session topic: how to get rid of requirements crufts | 12:49 |
| tonyb | if we don't facilitate the move then we're making life hard for everyone | 12:49 |
| dirk | tonyb: yeah, we also need to push by calling out deadlines | 12:49 |
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| dirk | tonyb: +1 | 12:50 |
| tonyb | dirk: and what do we do if $projects don't move? | 12:50 |
| prometheanfire | so, less optional, more better? | 12:50 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: Yeah | 12:50 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: well "better for soem people" | 12:51 |
| dirk | tonyb: 'it depends' :-) | 12:51 |
| prometheanfire | well, for the ones we already added, they are truely optinal | 12:51 |
| prometheanfire | they are try wrapped import statements | 12:51 |
| tonyb | prometheanfire: for example *json some uses may not care about speed and prefer pure python | 12:51 |
| prometheanfire | so they will get used when we add them | 12:51 |
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| prometheanfire | as for getting people to switch fully... | 12:51 |
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| prometheanfire | ya, that'll be fun :P | 12:52 |
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| tonyb | ok so we're going to add comments/ move thing to seperate section in g-r | 12:54 |
| tonyb | but not add an additional file for tracking these things | 12:54 |
| prometheanfire | who wants to submit that? | 12:54 |
| tonyb | number80: ? | 12:54 |
| tonyb | we should still be very selective about adding funcational duplicates | 12:54 |
| prometheanfire | very | 12:55 |
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| number80 | tonyb: I'll do it | 12:55 |
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| prometheanfire | #action number80 to submit review moving existing optional-reqs packages to their own section in gr | 12:56 |
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| prometheanfire | not sure about uc | 12:56 |
| tonyb | ther *must* be only one uc | 12:56 |
| prometheanfire | ok | 12:56 |
| prometheanfire | only one, yes | 12:56 |
| prometheanfire | but in it's own section | 12:56 |
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| prometheanfire | #topic open floor | 12:57 |
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| tonyb | no need for a seperate section in uc | 12:57 |
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| * dirk needs to leave, cya | 12:57 | |
| tonyb | it's machine generated | 12:57 |
| prometheanfire | true | 12:57 |
| prometheanfire | so, that it? | 12:57 |
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| * tonyb is done | 12:58 | |
| prometheanfire | #endmeeting | 12:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 12:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 12:58:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-08-24-11.59.html | 12:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-08-24-11.59.txt | 12:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/requirements/2016/requirements.2016-08-24-11.59.log.html | 12:58 |
| tonyb | Thanks all | 12:58 |
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| number80 | thanks prometheanfire for chairing and everyone else! | 13:00 |
| joehuang | hello | 13:00 |
| zhiyuan | hi joe | 13:00 |
| yinxiulin | hello | 13:00 |
| dongfeng | hello | 13:00 |
| hejiawei | hi | 13:00 |
| joehuang | let's start tricircle meeting | 13:01 |
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| Yipei | Hello | 13:01 |
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| hejiawei | ronghui has some work of reception, so he will not attend this meeting | 13:01 |
| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 13:02:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:02 |
| joehuang | #topic rollcall | 13:02 |
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| joehuang | #info joehuang | 13:02 |
| Yipei | #info Yipei | 13:02 |
| dongfeng | #info dongfeng | 13:02 |
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| yinxiulin | #info xiulin | 13:02 |
| zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 13:03 |
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| joehuang | #topic feature implementation progress | 13:03 |
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| joehuang | hi, please share your recent progress in feature implementation, thanks | 13:04 |
| zhiyuan | patches for subnet and floating ip clearing have been submitted, i am going to submit the patch for router clearing tomorrow | 13:05 |
| joehuang | Zhiyuan fixed one py27 test error today, so please rebase your patch to pass the py27 check and gate test | 13:05 |
| yinxiulin | I resubmitted a patch based APP implementations for microversion | 13:06 |
| joehuang | thanks to zhiyuan, this is necessary for nova action to pass the tempest test | 13:06 |
| Yipei | about dynamic pod binding, the unit tests fail locally. so spends a lot time on tests. but i just submitted a patch, all the tests pass. | 13:06 |
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| Yipei | this week i will revise commit message and submit a patch. i will add you guys in the reviewer list | 13:07 |
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| dongfeng | I have finished the documentation on pod and pod binding. but they are not merged yet. | 13:07 |
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| joehuang | that means all unit test passed for dynamic pod binding? | 13:07 |
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| joehuang | to Dongfeng, have you tried the command for pod and pod binding? | 13:08 |
| joehuang | to Xiulin, great! | 13:08 |
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| hejiawei | this week,I commit a patch that force a volume to detach,but not passed .this is my first time to commit,I will retest it and thanks all the reviewers | 13:08 |
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| dongfeng | yes, after the releveant functions by curl, i look up the response code in screen -x | 13:09 |
| joehuang | FOr me, the policy patch has been updated according to the review comment | 13:09 |
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| joehuang | to Jiawei, thank you very much for the first commit! | 13:09 |
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| dongfeng | after i run the command by curl, i look up the response code in screen -x. it could be verified that the response code is 200 if correct. | 13:11 |
| joehuang | if you found your patch can't pass the py27 test, please rebase your patch | 13:11 |
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| joehuang | to Dongfeng, yes, it should be like that | 13:11 |
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| joehuang | any more information on feature implementation? | 13:12 |
| Yipei | ok, i will try. i did not add more tests, just try to checks whether need to dynamically bind a pod when creating a vm. | 13:13 |
| joehuang | everybody is encouraged to review other's patch | 13:13 |
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| Yipei | i will submit a patch without [WIP] tag this week, and add you guys in the reviewer list. | 13:13 |
| joehuang | Thank you very much, Yipei, go ahead | 13:14 |
| joehuang | ok, let's talk about the TC concerns on tricircle big tent application | 13:15 |
| Yipei | you are welcome, it is my duty | 13:15 |
| joehuang | #topic TC concerns on tricircle big tent application | 13:15 |
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| joehuang | Tricircle has started to apply big tent project last month | 13:16 |
| joehuang | and two rounds dicussion in the TC weekly meeting | 13:16 |
| joehuang | a lot of review comment in the patch | 13:17 |
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| joehuang | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338796/ | 13:17 |
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| joehuang | #info the main concerns are API consistency in Nova API-GW / Nova, Cinder API-GW/Cinder | 13:19 |
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| joehuang | #info but the value of networking automation across Neutron is recogized | 13:20 |
| joehuang | what's your idea to move tricircle forward? | 13:21 |
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| joehuang | or proposal | 13:22 |
| zhiyuan | so it's better if our networking automation features can work with classical Nova and Cinder server | 13:23 |
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| joehuang | you mean decouple the networking from Nova-API-GW and Cinder API-GW? | 13:23 |
| joehuang | Currenly Nova API GW is involved in networking automation | 13:24 |
| zhiyuan | yes, so the main concern is away :) | 13:24 |
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| joehuang | that means let Nova/Cinder still work in multi-region mode | 13:25 |
| joehuang | #info idea1, to make networking automaton work with multi-region Nova/Cinder, decouple from Nova API-GW | 13:26 |
| joehuang | any other idea or proposal? | 13:26 |
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| dstanek | samueldmq: it uses an extra random number as part of the key so that when we change it (invalidate) the keys are effectively invalidated | 13:27 |
| joehuang | this is a good idea, no need to worry about Nova API-GW/Cinder API-GW will have overlapping/different API implementation | 13:28 |
| lzy2 | sorry i am late.I have watched sound code this week and prepared to code in the next few days. | 13:29 |
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| joehuang | I also have another proposal to introduce plugin mechanism in Nova Cinder API layer | 13:29 |
| joehuang | but it'll take long time to disuss in Nova/Cinder to support such a feature | 13:30 |
| zhiyuan | for decoupling, it's not that straightforward since Nova server doesn't provide driver framework, you can only write driver for nova compute | 13:31 |
| joehuang | #info idea2 propose to introduce plugin mechanism in Nova Cinder API layer | 13:31 |
| joehuang | agree | 13:31 |
| zhiyuan | but we need VM booting event to trigger networking automation | 13:31 |
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| joehuang | yes | 13:32 |
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| joehuang | so, zhiyuan, could you draft the idea1, and let's have more and broad discussion on this topic to see if it's possible | 13:33 |
| zhiyuan | ok, i will prepare for the discussion | 13:34 |
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| joehuang | but for our current development, just like what TC expect, continue our current implementation | 13:35 |
| joehuang | don't stop it | 13:35 |
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| joehuang | #action discussion on the possiblity to decouple the networking automation | 13:35 |
| yinxiulin | ok, got it | 13:35 |
| zhiyuan | ok | 13:36 |
| joehuang | good, please continue our development and think about how to address TCs' concerns and worries | 13:36 |
| joehuang | #topic open discussion | 13:37 |
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| joehuang | any other topic? | 13:37 |
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| zhiyuan | no from me | 13:38 |
| Yipei | no for me | 13:38 |
| yinxiulin | no for me | 13:39 |
| dongfeng | no for me | 13:39 |
| joehuang | ok, thank you very much, let's conclude the meeting | 13:39 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 13:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 13:39:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-08-24-13.02.html | 13:39 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-08-24-13.02.txt | 13:39 |
| zhiyuan | bye | 13:39 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-08-24-13.02.log.html | 13:39 |
| joehuang | bye | 13:39 |
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| Yipei | see you | 13:40 |
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| krotscheck | #startmeeting javascript | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 14:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krotscheck. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: javascript)" | 14:00 | |
| krotscheck | Good morning everyone! | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'javascript' | 14:00 |
| cardeois | hello ! | 14:00 |
| krotscheck | #link Agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/javascript-meeting-2016-08-24 | 14:00 |
| vkramskikh | hi | 14:00 |
| krotscheck | #chair vkramskikh | 14:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: krotscheck vkramskikh | 14:00 |
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| yujunz | Hi all | 14:01 |
| * SotK lurks | 14:01 | |
| krotscheck | #topic Action Followup | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Followup (Meeting topic: javascript)" | 14:01 | |
| krotscheck | I've moved both the microversion and the method promise discussion to the topics. | 14:01 |
| krotscheck | JSDoc building is also funcitonal. | 14:01 |
| krotscheck | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358120/ | 14:01 |
| krotscheck | #link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/20/358120/4/check/gate-js-openstack-lib-nodejs6-npm-docs/e531b12//doc/build/html/ | 14:02 |
| betherly | o/ | 14:02 |
| krotscheck | That second link is probably better - see the content generated under 'Reference Documentatino' | 14:02 |
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| krotscheck | There's some gotchas, as outlined in the review | 14:03 |
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| krotscheck | However, with the option of "Not quite perfect" documentation and "no documentation", I'll vote for the former. | 14:03 |
| krotscheck | Go leave your comments on the review :) | 14:03 |
| betherly | awesome | 14:03 |
| krotscheck | Any questions? | 14:03 |
| yujunz | I've add a -r for recursive | 14:04 |
| yujunz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/359445/ | 14:04 |
| cardeois | no it's awesome, great job! | 14:04 |
| krotscheck | yujunz: Oh, good, thanks. | 14:04 |
| yujunz | And the 'Children' thing | 14:04 |
| yujunz | I looked into jsdoc-sphinx a bit | 14:05 |
| yujunz | Haven't figure out why yet | 14:05 |
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| yujunz | But should be useful if we want multi level | 14:05 |
| krotscheck | Yeah, there's a bunch of things in there that aren't wrapped with if statements. | 14:05 |
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| krotscheck | We'll want to reach out to the maintainers of that and see if they're willing to accept some patches. | 14:06 |
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| krotscheck | It's not super critical though. Maybe worth creating a story though | 14:06 |
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| krotscheck | #action krotscheck Create story to fix bugs in jsdoc-sphinx | 14:06 |
| krotscheck | Cool, let's move on, we've got a lot of big topics to discuss | 14:07 |
| krotscheck | #topic Team Purpose and Scope | 14:07 |
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| krotscheck | vkramskikh: I think this one was yours? | 14:07 |
| krotscheck | Why do we exist? | 14:07 |
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| vkramskikh | I have one reson for contributing into this project - I want to reuse it for Fuel | 14:08 |
| krotscheck | Fuel only uses keystone though, right? | 14:08 |
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| vkramskikh | I also see a lot of potential to reimplement Horizon in a better way, though I don't see any Horizon folks contributing | 14:08 |
| vkramskikh | right | 14:08 |
| krotscheck | Yeah, I've spoken with the horizon team. Most of them are not being paid to build something new, they're being paid to maintain something old. | 14:09 |
| krotscheck | cardeois and the others at internap though seem rather interested. | 14:09 |
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| krotscheck | cardeois: What's your interest? | 14:09 |
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| cardeois | You mean contribute to horizon? | 14:10 |
| krotscheck | cardeois: Why's Internap interested in the JS efforst ehre? | 14:10 |
| cardeois | I guess yeah that would be cool, but the sdk needs to mature before I guess. | 14:10 |
| cardeois | We are interested because we used our own sdk in the past (python, js or whatever) and are interested in contributing in a unified one | 14:10 |
| krotscheck | Got it. | 14:11 |
| krotscheck | What do you consider "mature"? From my experience, that's in the eye of the beholder. | 14:11 |
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| betherly | cardeois: thats my view as well. i am also interested in contributing to horizon to build a new infrastructure for it but the sdk needs to be more mature to be taken seriously as a replacement | 14:11 |
| cardeois | I would say being able to create an instance with a specific flavor and defined networks | 14:11 |
| vkramskikh | I've also seen some other folks in project-config who are interested. Maybe once we've got something useful we'll see more contribution | 14:11 |
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| cardeois | that would be the mvp I think | 14:11 |
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| krotscheck | That's the MVP for the App Eco group as well. | 14:11 |
| vkramskikh | +1 to cardeois | 14:12 |
| msmol | hello, sorry for being late | 14:12 |
| betherly | cardeois: ++ | 14:12 |
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| krotscheck | Ok, so: instance (nova), flavors, image (glance), auth (keystone)... any cinder? | 14:13 |
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| krotscheck | Neutron | 14:13 |
| cardeois | Yes I think cinder would be nice too, (or phase 2) | 14:14 |
| krotscheck | So, that's a lot of work. Is anyone other than myself actually willing to contribut to this to get it to MVP state? | 14:14 |
| krotscheck | Because, quite frankly, I gave notice to HPE this monday, and will be moving on to non-OpenStack things in two weeks. | 14:14 |
| cardeois | I am, I didn't work that much these last weeks on the project but I'd like to catch up and contribute to one component | 14:14 |
| betherly | krotscheck: i am | 14:15 |
| cardeois | oh wow | 14:15 |
| krotscheck | So my ability to contribute will be VERY restricted. | 14:15 |
| msmol | +1 | 14:15 |
| krotscheck | (Basically 20% time, if Im lucky) | 14:15 |
| betherly | i just dont know exactly how to bring things together but i definitely want to help and learn :) | 14:15 |
| vkramskikh | I'm still busy with Fuel and cannot commit to anything, though I still can review the patches | 14:15 |
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| yujunz | 10%-20% on my side | 14:15 |
| krotscheck | Right. | 14:16 |
| cardeois | yeah 10-20% for me too | 14:16 |
| betherly | ditto | 14:16 |
| krotscheck | Ok, so there's willingness to contribute, however I want to make sure that everyone's got their expectations set. | 14:16 |
| cardeois | But if we get things clear with Keystone, and it gets well defined, it would be easier to develop other components bases on Keystone | 14:16 |
| krotscheck | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/js-openstack-lib+branch:master+topic:keystone | 14:17 |
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| krotscheck | just sayin ;) | 14:17 |
| cardeois | yeah I need to catch up | 14:18 |
| krotscheck | I'll talk more about progress. | 14:18 |
| krotscheck | later | 14:18 |
| msmol | indeed. yeah we've definitely got some catching up to do | 14:18 |
| krotscheck | So to summarize: We think the SDK's a grand idea, everyone's trying to scrape time together to contribute, but we don't think we can really make an argument without an MVP, yes? | 14:18 |
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| vkramskikh | +1 | 14:19 |
| cardeois | +1 | 14:19 |
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| yujunz | +1 | 14:19 |
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| krotscheck | Add to that generator-openstack, which is our "Here's how you use our SDK" tool. | 14:20 |
| krotscheck | Righto. | 14:20 |
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| msmol | maybe cardeois and I can convince mr notmars to let us work on this more than 20%. I think it's a longshot but we can try | 14:20 |
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| krotscheck | SO here's what I propose. We figure out which methods in the various API's are required to get us to the mvp, and we only implement that. | 14:20 |
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| krotscheck | I've got patches up for keystone that will get us tokens and the service catalog list. | 14:21 |
| betherly | how are we going to collaborate on this with regard tasks and getting things moving forward without duplication? | 14:21 |
| jprivard | and of course I can contribute more as well. I'm having a hard time handling with my responsibility of dev + scrummaster, but I definitely can contribute more | 14:21 |
| krotscheck | From that we can attach nova, cinder, glance, and neutron | 14:21 |
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| cardeois | Good idea, I think everybody needs to check Keystone reviews so we all agree and take that as a base | 14:21 |
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| vkramskikh | I agree, I don't think we need all of that: http://paste.openstack.org/show/562622/ for keystone MVP | 14:22 |
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| krotscheck | i agree | 14:22 |
| krotscheck | We may need regions? well see | 14:22 |
| cardeois | Yes region is important for us, unless you can specify it in the config and it uses this config | 14:22 |
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| krotscheck | Can I get some help identifying which bits we need to implement? | 14:23 |
| cardeois | I can help | 14:23 |
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| krotscheck | cardeois: Thanks! I'll check in with larainema to see how he's coming along with glance, and dig into nova's flavor things. If you could take on neutron, that'd be best. | 14:24 |
| krotscheck | Also, everyone go argue about keystone. | 14:24 |
| krotscheck | :D | 14:25 |
| betherly | :D | 14:25 |
| krotscheck | Ok, let's move on. | 14:25 |
| krotscheck | Wait | 14:25 |
| krotscheck | Any questions before we move on? | 14:25 |
| cardeois | ok sound good | 14:25 |
| krotscheck | #action krotscheck, cardeois, and larainema to figure out what methods are needed to get to MVP | 14:26 |
| * krotscheck is going to throw code at those. | 14:26 | |
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| krotscheck | #topic Token Persistence | 14:27 |
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| krotscheck | Keystone issues tokens. | 14:27 |
| krotscheck | Those tokens might expire. | 14:27 |
| krotscheck | We can have the SDK handle the tokens, however it'd be difficult to do so in a way that will meet all edge cases. | 14:27 |
| krotscheck | vkramskikh made a point last week that we should leave it to the user to manage their tokens. | 14:28 |
| krotscheck | The more I worked on the keystone SDK, the more I ... sortof... agree with him. | 14:28 |
| msmol | I think it should be up to the SDK's users to reauthenticate... e.g. +1 vkramskikh | 14:28 |
| krotscheck | So, what we're building now is a very low level SDK. We basically just construct HTTP calls for our users. | 14:28 |
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| cardeois | So you mean our choices are: #1 if the token expires we generate an error and the user handles it. #2 we catch them and reconnect and handle the exception ? | 14:28 |
| krotscheck | cardeois: Yep. | 14:29 |
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| breton | keystoneclient now does #2 | 14:30 |
| breton | *python-keystoneclient | 14:30 |
| cardeois | Yep I agree with #1 then. Too many edge cases otherwise. If the sdk is used on a server side it "might" be instanciated with an existing token already and we "might" not have any user credentials to relogin | 14:30 |
| msmol | I don't see how we'd reauth automagically in the browser. If say the page is refreshed that means we lose not only the token, but also the config (unless we start storing stuff in local storage) | 14:30 |
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| krotscheck | breton: Thanks, that's good to know :) | 14:30 |
| krotscheck | msmol: THat's certainly an option. | 14:30 |
| krotscheck | Personally, I think that high-level features like that would be AWESOME... but not for an MVP. | 14:31 |
| krotscheck | What I've done so far is pass the token in to the method as a first parameter: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358085/5/src/keystone.js | 14:31 |
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| krotscheck | And, maybe, at some point in the future the OpenStack class becomes the "We'll do magic for you" implementation | 14:31 |
| cardeois | +1 for not necessary for MVP | 14:32 |
| krotscheck | But that's a future kind of question. | 14:32 |
| msmol | ok, so then we're all agreed I think. would be nice to have but not in the scope of the MVP? | 14:33 |
| krotscheck | Any disagreements? | 14:33 |
| krotscheck | #agreed Token Persistence not necessary for MVP. | 14:34 |
| krotscheck | #topic Outreach Education | 14:34 |
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| krotscheck | betherly! | 14:34 |
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| * krotscheck apologizes for totally dropping the ball on that | 14:34 | |
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| krotscheck | Urm. | 14:36 |
| krotscheck | betherly? | 14:36 |
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| betherly | sorry i dropped off for a moment | 14:36 |
| krotscheck | No worries. | 14:37 |
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| betherly | so the summit isnt too far away and so probably that is the number one place for us to be talking about the sdk and the projects | 14:37 |
| betherly | it would be good to have a meeting with the purpose of education which could form part of a talk krotscheck has proposed or potentially a webinar | 14:38 |
| betherly | which then gets built into documentation | 14:38 |
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| krotscheck | We're still in brainstorming mode, yes? | 14:38 |
| betherly | contribution outreach also leads into a q i touched on earlier in terms of knowing where people can contribute and what needs to be done. | 14:39 |
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| krotscheck | Our goals are to increase use and increase contributors? | 14:39 |
| betherly | indeed. sorry, this is all potential ideas floating around totally open | 14:39 |
| betherly | yup | 14:39 |
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| betherly | and also general awareness of the project even if people dont want to or cant contribute right now | 14:40 |
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| krotscheck | Ok, so let's focus on individual goals. | 14:40 |
| krotscheck | Both require that we build awareness. How do we do that? | 14:40 |
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| krotscheck | More mailing list discussions. | 14:40 |
| krotscheck | Release announcements (requires releases) | 14:40 |
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| krotscheck | betherly: did you have an etherpad? | 14:42 |
| betherly | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/js-sdk-outreach | 14:42 |
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| krotscheck | Oh, awesome. | 14:42 |
| betherly | i havent had a chance to develop it as much as i hoped (yet) | 14:42 |
| krotscheck | Do you want to discuss things now, or let it develop for another week? | 14:42 |
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| betherly | my first messages in the topic were a sort of rambling of my thoughts on it at the moment and whats going through my brain. any feedback on that and thoughts would always be great | 14:44 |
| krotscheck | RIght, so everyone should be talking up the SDK at the summit :) | 14:44 |
| krotscheck | I lvoe this idea. | 14:44 |
| krotscheck | We'll want to have a response ready for the inevitable "but what about horizon" question. | 14:45 |
| betherly | i think our response has been discussed really. once there is an mvp we can look at application | 14:45 |
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| krotscheck | Right. | 14:45 |
| krotscheck | Sorry | 14:45 |
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| krotscheck | So all of this hinges on actually getting the MVP. | 14:46 |
| betherly | part of what we are working towards is something that could be awesome to horizon but its so much more than that so we can probably quite easily shift that discussion | 14:46 |
| betherly | well no, i think we can still have discussions before the mvp. talk about the vision of the project and what it 'could' do and be used for | 14:47 |
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| betherly | but being careful not to make solid statements of intent before things have been planned | 14:47 |
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| krotscheck | Ok, so what do you recommend we do right now? | 14:48 |
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| betherly | right now i would recommend we continue improving docs so we can point people to the right place | 14:49 |
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| krotscheck | That sounds good to me :) | 14:49 |
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| betherly | cool | 14:49 |
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| krotscheck | #action krotscheck split design-by-documentation into to-implement segments. | 14:50 |
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| krotscheck | ^^ Is probably my biggest action here, since once keystone lands we should land the getting-started section for that. | 14:51 |
| krotscheck | 10 minute warning | 14:51 |
| krotscheck | betherly: Are you ok if we move on? | 14:51 |
| betherly | krotscheck: yup yup! | 14:51 |
| betherly | :) | 14:51 |
| krotscheck | #action everyone Brainstorm outreach ideas. | 14:52 |
| krotscheck | #action everyone Make sure you insist on documentation patches :) | 14:52 |
| krotscheck | Ok, next topic: | 14:52 |
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| krotscheck | #topic Microversions | 14:52 |
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| krotscheck | We had an action last week for everyone to brainstorm about microversions | 14:52 |
| cardeois | oh, oops I didn't do anything | 14:53 |
| krotscheck | All I came up with is "oh, keystone doesn't do microversions yet, I guess we just support 3.7" | 14:53 |
| krotscheck | However. | 14:53 |
| krotscheck | I have this patch that sortof outlines my thoughts on it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356751/ | 14:53 |
| krotscheck | Basically, it's up to the SDK to read all available versions, and figure out which one it knows how to talk. | 14:54 |
| krotscheck | Right now, we only have one version. That will get more complicated as we add others. | 14:54 |
| krotscheck | And I have no recommendations yet on how to support multiple API versions. | 14:54 |
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| krotscheck | So unless anyone has a strong opinion, we'll discuss things on the review and move on. | 14:55 |
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| cardeois | Ok so maybe let's focus for the MVP on reading the version of the API, fail if the version is not supported. | 14:55 |
| cardeois | Then later we'll handle different versions? | 14:55 |
| krotscheck | Right. And maybe what we'll do is release an SDK with every openstack release, and just support that version in that release. | 14:56 |
| krotscheck | And handle bugfixes in branches. | 14:56 |
| cardeois | +1 | 14:56 |
| krotscheck | Alrightey | 14:56 |
| vkramskikh | +1 | 14:56 |
| krotscheck | #agreed Stick to one version for the MVP. Handle Most-Recent-OpenStack version at all times, and support older versions via release branches until deprecated. | 14:57 |
| krotscheck | 3 minutes | 14:57 |
| krotscheck | #topic Method Promise Response Signatures | 14:57 |
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| krotscheck | So far, on success, I'm retuning the decoded body, while on failure I'm returning the Response instance. | 14:57 |
| krotscheck | Any opinions on that? | 14:58 |
| cardeois | sounds good for now | 14:58 |
| vkramskikh | I love it | 14:58 |
| betherly | :) | 14:58 |
| cardeois | if the documention is explicit about that I'm ok with it | 14:58 |
| vkramskikh | I see in some cases you're not returning the body, but header value or value of some key of body and i'm totally fine with it | 14:58 |
| krotscheck | Coolio. The big change that was needed there was to send 4xx and 5xx to the fail handler, which is one of my patches. | 14:58 |
| krotscheck | True. I'm returning "That thing that you asked for" | 14:58 |
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| krotscheck | 1 minute! | 14:59 |
| krotscheck | Skipping keystone | 14:59 |
| krotscheck | 'cause we covered it. | 14:59 |
| krotscheck | #topic Open Discussion | 14:59 |
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| krotscheck | 40 seconds, what's up? | 14:59 |
| krotscheck | :) | 14:59 |
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| cardeois | haha nothing for me, anyway not enough time | 14:59 |
| krotscheck | Alright, thanks everyoen! | 14:59 |
| krotscheck | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 14:59:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/javascript/2016/javascript.2016-08-24-14.00.html | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/javascript/2016/javascript.2016-08-24-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/javascript/2016/javascript.2016-08-24-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 15:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:00 |
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| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 15:00 |
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| SotK | Anyone here for StoryBoard today? | 15:00 |
| Zara | I AM | 15:00 |
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| betherly | o/ | 15:01 |
| betherly | yo yo yo | 15:01 |
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| Zara | hey there! :D | 15:01 |
| SotK | wooo! | 15:01 |
| SotK | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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| matthewbodkin | Hi | 15:01 |
| Zara | hi! :) | 15:01 |
| SotK | #info Gerrit integration is fully up and running! | 15:01 |
| Zara | YESSSSSSSSSS | 15:01 |
| betherly | wooooooooo | 15:01 |
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| Zara | *insert dancing gif here* | 15:02 |
| Zara | I'm worried I've pinged people too many times to thank them already | 15:02 |
| SotK | it works wonderfully, thanks to everyone involved :) | 15:02 |
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| Zara | but I feel rude if I don't name anyone | 15:04 |
| * Zara gives up-- thanks zaro, fungi, infra! | 15:04 | |
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| Zara | you are the best | 15:04 |
| fungi | you bet. happy to help | 15:04 |
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| Zara | :) this is the final gerrit-thanks-ping, honest! | 15:05 |
| Zara | I'm so happy =D | 15:05 |
| SotK | Have I missed any other exciting things off the agenda? | 15:06 |
| Zara | I don't think so | 15:06 |
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| SotK | excellent | 15:07 |
| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 15:08 |
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| SotK | the events timeline for boards and worklists is merged! | 15:08 |
| Zara | \o/ | 15:09 |
| Zara | for clarification, that's the api support for it | 15:09 |
| SotK | there is a patch waiting around to make it actually accessible by people who don't have database access | 15:09 |
| Zara | right, that way lies email notifications. | 15:09 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354729 | 15:09 |
| SotK | yup, there's another patch which provides email notifications and recent event things if desired | 15:10 |
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| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/354730/ | 15:10 |
| Zara | have tested at length, need more +1s! | 15:10 |
| Zara | and input on the layout for recent events templates | 15:10 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356441/ | 15:10 |
| SotK | is the patch for those templates | 15:10 |
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| persia | Will that fully allow worklist subscriptions, or are there more pending in that series? | 15:11 |
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| Zara | re: 356441, I think people who intend to use the feature most should give feedback on the layout for recent events templates. | 15:11 |
| Zara | so if you're intending to subscribe to worklists so you can know when they change, it's a good time to take a look | 15:12 |
| persia | Rather, if you want to consume that information on dashboard. | 15:12 |
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| Zara | right now we don't have that configurable | 15:12 |
| Zara | so if you subscribe to worklists, you're getting them in your recent events. | 15:13 |
| * persia wants to subscribe and be notified, but gas less concern for dashboard. | 15:13 | |
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| SotK | the last patch linked lets you be subscribed but not receive emails or "recent events" | 15:13 |
| Zara | re: the earlier question, you can subscribe to worklists currently, this is work to make changes notify folks, but I think 'fully' means different things to everyone | 15:13 |
| SotK | but there is no way currently to receive only one of the two notification types | 15:14 |
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| Zara | right, so if you don't look at the dash at all, the templates make no difference, and if you don't opt for notifications on subscribed worklists, the templates make no difference | 15:16 |
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| Zara | so it just affects people who want to use the recent events on the dash (for anything) and want worklist notifications | 15:16 |
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| persia | I think that ends up being a lot of people. | 15:17 |
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| Zara | then they (or a representative) need to give feedback on what would be useful to them | 15:17 |
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| SotK | at the moment I think I plan to change it to the suggestion persia made in the irc discussion on the subject yesterday | 15:18 |
| persia | That was smaller, but as I said in that discussion, I now believe we can only have an opinion in mock-up or docs-draft | 15:19 |
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| betherly | have to multitask and be in voice call simultaneously so just dropping this here: i wanted to bring up the patch matthewbodkin and i worked on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355554/ - matthewbodkin are you happy for me to take a look and see if i can sort it this end then show you what i did? | 15:20 |
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| matthewbodkin | ye fine | 15:21 |
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| Zara | comments on recent events templates should go on the thread for the patch; right now I think there's only one from me. | 15:22 |
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| SotK | my other WIP is reworking task layout so that I can add a "Add to worklist" button there without it getting overly cramped | 15:25 |
| matthewbodkin | betherly: If I'm honest I was just leaving that for now because nobody is sure whether it does or will actually work properly yet and we were waiting for more people to view it | 15:25 |
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| matthewbodkin | so any help or light that you could shine on it would be great | 15:26 |
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| Zara | SotK: I'm pleased about the planned layout for this. :) | 15:26 |
| Zara | pedro has said he's willing to remove his -1 on that; iirc it looked odd for him on an emu but fine on his phone. | 15:27 |
| Zara | (for the sidebar submenu, sorry) | 15:27 |
| Zara | so it should just need more reviews | 15:27 |
| matthewbodkin | okay great I thought so | 15:27 |
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| Zara | betherly ^ | 15:28 |
| matthewbodkin | it's up to you what you want to do with it then betherly, if you think it can be improved further then go for it :) | 15:28 |
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| Zara | probably worth poking pedroalvarez about it after the meeting. | 15:30 |
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| SotK | Anything else in this section? | 15:31 |
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| matthewbodkin | not from me | 15:33 |
| Zara | I've just been reviewing this week, so nothing from me | 15:33 |
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| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 15:33 |
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| Zara | I don't have anything to discuss; am chipping away at a wall of review | 15:35 |
| matthewbodkin | I don't either | 15:35 |
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| Zara | any requests? | 15:36 |
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| Zara | oh, docs for sb-gerrit | 15:36 |
| Zara | I just sent an email round but it'd be good to make docs for that, since we're not expecting syntax to change much; will note | 15:37 |
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| * Zara adds task to https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000012 | 15:40 | |
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| * Zara is now satisfied she has nothing to add | 15:42 | |
| SotK | oh, also, it needs to be able to update private stories too | 15:42 |
| SotK | (when given access) | 15:42 |
| Zara | oh yeah, should be a small fix | 15:43 |
| Zara | so that it sends auth with a GET | 15:43 |
| Zara | right? | 15:43 |
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| Zara | then people can add it to the ACL of relevant stories | 15:43 |
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| SotK | yeah | 15:43 |
| Zara | the bot can't access them otherwise... which I think is a good sign :) | 15:44 |
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| SotK | anything else to discuss? | 15:46 |
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| betherly | sorry late back! | 15:47 |
| betherly | thanks for responses to my query | 15:47 |
| betherly | ill take a quick look and see but if the testing has all come back fine now then awesome job! | 15:47 |
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| matthewbodkin | okay thanks | 15:48 |
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| Zara | shall we end this meeting? | 15:50 |
| matthewbodkin | fine by me | 15:50 |
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| SotK | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 15:51:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-08-24-15.00.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-08-24-15.00.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-08-24-15.00.log.html | 15:52 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 16:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderMeetings#Next_Cinder_Team_meeting | 16:00 |
| Swanson | Hello | 16:00 |
| jgregor | Hello! | 16:00 |
| scottda | hola | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | ping - dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylike.hu | 16:00 |
| ntpttr__ | o/ | 16:00 |
| baumann | Hiya | 16:00 |
| tommylikehu | hello | 16:00 |
| geguileo | o/ | 16:00 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:00 |
| DuncanT | Hey | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Short agenda today. | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Probably means will run out of time. :) | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
| tommylikehu | sounds cool | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | It's non-client library freeze. | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | If we get hemna's patch through, I'll be requesting a release later today. | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | Of os-brick that is. | 16:01 |
| patrickeast | Did that FC fix go in yet? | 16:01 |
| * patrickeast goes to look | 16:02 | |
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| geguileo | smcginnis: Any chance of this getting in? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231135/ | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: I thought it did yesterday, but I woudl wait on that too. | 16:02 |
| geguileo | patrickeast: No, not yet | 16:02 |
| erlon | hey | 16:02 |
| geguileo | patrickeast: If you are talking about mine | 16:02 |
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| tbarron | hi | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Oh yeah, wanted hemna to take a peek at that one. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | But it can probably go through. | 16:02 |
| patrickeast | geguileo: yep that's the one | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | patrickeast: You said you tested that and it improved things, right? | 16:03 |
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| patrickeast | smcginnis: yea it needs to be in | 16:03 |
| geguileo | We have the same issue in iSCSI multipath cleanup: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231134/ | 16:03 |
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| hemna | geguileo, I'll look | 16:04 |
| geguileo | hemna: Thanks! | 16:04 |
| hemna | geguileo, xtremio fc is failing on that one | 16:04 |
| hemna | fwiw | 16:04 |
| hemna | have to make sure that's not an issue | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Next week is N-3, feature freeze, client library freeze, string freeze, and requirements freeze. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | So please keep that in mind. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Soft string freeze, actually, but still - we should try to avoid making any translatable string changes if possible. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | That will really help the translation team get everything done in time. | 16:05 |
| xyang1 | hemna: where? | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357214/ Proposed Ocata schedule | 16:06 |
| erlon | smcginnis: friday? | 16:06 |
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| geguileo | hemna: That was failing due to the volume type issue | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | erlon: I think Thursday at the latest. | 16:06 |
| erlon | smcginnis: ok | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Just so everyone is aware, Ocata is going to be shorter as we transition over to the new release cadence. | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | Or rather Summit cadence. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | So Ocata will be a bit different. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | You can see the proposed schedule at that link. | 16:07 |
| xyang2 | geguileo: wasn't that one passed already? | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | A lot more compressed. | 16:07 |
| xyang2 | geguileo: I didn't see XtremIO CI failure on your patch | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Another reason I would like O focused more on bug fixes and stabilization, if we can. | 16:08 |
| Swanson | Need more and faster releases with less in them and buggier. Should go well. | 16:08 |
| geguileo | xyang2: Apparently I didn't request the recheck, how do I trigger the recheck only for XtremIO_FC os-brick? | 16:08 |
| hemna | xyang2, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/231135/ | 16:08 |
| hemna | FC failed | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | Should be "run-EMC XIO" | 16:09 |
| geguileo | Yeah, and I have just checked that the error is in the scheduler: InvalidVolumeType: Invalid volume type: volume_type cannot be None | 16:09 |
| bswartz | Swanson: I think you're being sarcastic but faster releases with less in them would be awesome IMO | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Ah, doesn't have the fix. Rebase? | 16:09 |
| geguileo | xyang2: Thanks! | 16:09 |
| xyang2 | geguileo: np | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Sometimes it's hard to tell when he's being sarcastic or not. ;) | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: So pessimistic! | 16:09 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, I'm a naturally sunny and positive person. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 16:10 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: I don't think it needs a rebase, but let's see the results first :-) | 16:10 |
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| smcginnis | geguileo: If it's still hitting the "volume type can't be null" thing, that fix should be in there. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: So I have heard. ;-) | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | But yeah, we'll see. | 16:11 |
| hemna | ok if it pukes over that I'll just shove it through | 16:11 |
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| geguileo | lol | 16:11 |
| geguileo | If it fails I'll rebase and resubmit | 16:11 |
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| smcginnis | The thing is gate will rebase on it's checks, but most CI's don't, so external issues aren't avoided (or hit) in third party CI without rebasing the patch. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:12 |
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| geguileo | smcginnis: Oooooh, I didn't know that | 16:12 |
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| smcginnis | geguileo: Yeah, it's a pretty subtle thing. | 16:13 |
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| smcginnis | Nothing else on the agenda. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | The driver deprecations/unsupported thing seems to have some fans. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | I saw Ironic is going to adopt that approach too. | 16:13 |
| DuncanT | I have just noticed on the post on mailing list re NFS clone | 16:13 |
| hemna | that patch is on it's way in no ? | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: I have lost track of that. Are we moving towards the approach we discussed? | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | hemna: I gave +2. I think we need to bribe someone else. :) | 16:13 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Looks like it. | 16:14 |
| hemna | smcginnis, so Ironic is going to do the same thing ? | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | It makes the tag enforcers happy, it's probably better on our end users. | 16:14 |
| DuncanT | That's on the minimum feature list | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: +2 | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Looks like it. They had a thread on doing that and I didn't see any dissenters. | 16:14 |
| hemna | ah cool. | 16:14 |
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| hemna | so Cinder is actually leading something for a change :) | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: What's the NFS clone thread? | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | hemna: ;) | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | hemna: We're the troublemakers. | 16:15 |
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| DuncanT | smcginnis: Apparently the NFS driver doesn't support clone? | 16:15 |
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| bswartz | DuncanT: you need snapshots before you can do clone | 16:15 |
| hemna | yes we are :) | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: jungleboyj is working on that now, I believe. | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: I just opened a bug for that and am going to work on fixing that as well with the snapshot support. | 16:15 |
| DuncanT | bswartz: Oh, that's on the minimum feature list too :-) | 16:16 |
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| jungleboyj | DuncanT: Yep. | 16:16 |
| bswartz | DuncanT: it's been "almost done" for more than 2 years now | 16:16 |
| tommylikehu | lol | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: True | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | bswartz: I am here to save the day!?! | 16:16 |
| DuncanT | bswartz: I might put the deprecation patch up and force the issue | 16:16 |
| tbarron | there were nasty nova dependencies | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | But now jungleboyj has a vested interest in it. ;) | 16:16 |
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| erlon | tbarron: +1 yep | 16:17 |
| tbarron | DuncanT: that might not have motivated nova .. | 16:17 |
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| bswartz | I will shed no tears if the NFS driver is ripped out | 16:17 |
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| DuncanT | tbarron: Vendors and distros can put pressure on nova if needed.... | 16:17 |
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| erlon | smcginnis: Im doing some investigation as well, actually theres something beyond nova | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | erlon: Oh? | 16:18 |
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| erlon | smcginnis: the NFS snapshots right? | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | erlon: What's the issue beyond Nova? | 16:19 |
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| erlon | smcginnis: firstly Nova would need to consider the backing file chain for the snapshtos, currently it only takes the basefile | 16:20 |
| erlon | smcginnis: them, libvirt need to attach the snapshot file, I couldn't get that working | 16:21 |
| erlon | smcginnis: even using only virsh commands | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | erlon: Hmm, not good. | 16:21 |
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| eharney | erlon: this is all stuff that should be working already... at least it did the last time i ran this code | 16:22 |
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| cFouts | o/ | 16:22 |
| erlon | smcginnis: yep, if you try to attach the basefile, which has the same permissions it works, if you try the snapshot it returns a permission error | 16:22 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: I am going to play around with it some more later this week too. | 16:23 |
| erlon | eharney: where you able to atach a snapshot to an instance? | 16:23 |
| eharney | i'll give the code a quick smoke test shortly and see what i get | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything else today? | 16:24 |
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| jungleboyj | I was able to create and delete snapshots. Hadn't tried attaching them. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Going once... | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | Going twice... | 16:25 |
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| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks smcginnis ! | 16:25 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: what I observed is that after you create the snapshos, when you detach the volume, and re-attach it, nova will attach the base file | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:25 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 16:25:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-08-24-16.00.html | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-08-24-16.00.txt | 16:25 |
| erlon | smcginnis: thanks! | 16:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-08-24-16.00.log.html | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Ok, I am going to look at it in a minute here. | 16:26 |
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| jlvillal | #startmeeting ironic_qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 17:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_qa' | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | Hello everyone | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | As always the meeting agenda is at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-QA | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | #topic Announcements | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:00 | |
| jlvillal | I don't have any announcements | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | #topic Multi-node Grenade testing of Ironic | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Multi-node Grenade testing of Ironic (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:01 | |
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| rpioso | o/ | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | #info A successful multi-node multi-tenant experimental job ran: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296432/ http://logs.openstack.org/32/296432/110/experimental/gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-ipa-partition-pxe_ssh-tinyipa-multinode-nv/d32c029/ | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | #info Big thanks to vsaienko for all of his work on this | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | #info Still more work to do (adding the Grenade portion) but this is a great step | 17:02 |
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| krtaylor | o/ | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | #topic 3rd Party CI (krtaylor) | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "3rd Party CI (krtaylor) (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:03 | |
| jlvillal | krtaylor: All yours :) | 17:03 |
| krtaylor | wow that was fast :) | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | heh | 17:03 |
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| jlvillal | Only three of us here | 17:03 |
| krtaylor | so, we finally got he stackalytics driver completion patch merged | 17:04 |
| jlvillal | Nice :) | 17:04 |
| krtaylor | so all intree drivers will be in the marketplace | 17:04 |
| jlvillal | Is there a link to see what it looks like? | 17:04 |
| krtaylor | CI docs patch is stalled because I got pulled into downstream stuff this week | 17:04 |
| krtaylor | yes, one sec | 17:04 |
| rajinir | o/ | 17:05 |
| krtaylor | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330270/ | 17:05 |
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| krtaylor | thats the merged patchset | 17:05 |
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| jlvillal | Dumb question, how does that show up in Stackalytics? | 17:06 |
| krtaylor | that is the config file for... (getting link) | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | Is there a link in Stackalytics which shows the info? | 17:06 |
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| jlvillal | Ah this: http://stackalytics.com/report/driverlog | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | http://stackalytics.com/report/driverlog?project_id=openstack%2Fironic | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | Cool :) | 17:07 |
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| jlvillal | #link http://stackalytics.com/report/driverlog?project_id=openstack%2Fironic | 17:08 |
| krtaylor | yep thats it, beat me to it | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | What about the marketplace link? | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | This? https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/drivers/ | 17:08 |
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| krtaylor | I dont have that one close | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | #link https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/drivers/ | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | yes, that appears to be right | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | Thanks krtaylor | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | np | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | the CI docs will need a respin for the docs that deva fixed (index) | 17:10 |
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| krtaylor | and I'll add a few more section descriptions for the outline | 17:10 |
| krtaylor | then it will be ready to go for now | 17:10 |
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| krtaylor | I was hoping to have that done for this meeting | 17:10 |
| krtaylor | but it will happen this week | 17:11 |
| krtaylor | there is an email thread on - should we follow cinder in the rethinking of how we deprecate drivers that are not doing CI testing | 17:12 |
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| jlvillal | Yep. I read that. I agree with jroll's proposal. To maintain the deprecation tag | 17:12 |
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| krtaylor | also, I am thinking about wrapping this work up in this cycle, and if we need to break out at summit and discuss anything | 17:13 |
| krtaylor | may add an item to the summit etherpad for CI | 17:14 |
| krtaylor | thoughts? | 17:14 |
| jlvillal | Sounds good to me. | 17:14 |
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| * jlvillal also hopes to wrap up the Grenade stuff by the summit. He can dream can't he? | 17:14 | |
| krtaylor | I thought what we did for Austin was very good - break out on Friday and discuss | 17:14 |
| krtaylor | hehheh | 17:14 |
| jlvillal | +1 | 17:14 |
| krtaylor | ok, I'll put that on the session planning etherpad | 17:15 |
| krtaylor | so, thats about it for CI, unless anyone else has anything | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | Thanks krtaylor | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | #topic Open Discussion | 17:15 |
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| jlvillal | I saw jroll had added an item to the agenda about tempest testing. But I think he is on vacation until tomorrow. | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | So I think we can revisit it next week. | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | Anyone else have anything? | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | Sounds like we are done | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | Thanks everyone | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | #endmeeting | 17:16 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 17:16:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-08-24-17.00.html | 17:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-08-24-17.00.txt | 17:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-08-24-17.00.log.html | 17:16 |
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| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 24 18:01:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:01 |
| bh526r | hello guys | 18:01 |
| KamilRenczewski | Hello | 18:01 |
| georgk | Hi | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Hi Kamil | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Hi Georg | 18:02 |
| bh526r | #topic Roll Call and Introduction | 18:02 |
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| georgk | #info Georg Kunz | 18:02 |
| KamilRenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:03 |
| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:03 |
| bh526r | #topic Admin Update | 18:03 |
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| bh526r | #info we plan to have a Gluon F2F session in Barcelona | 18:04 |
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| bh526r | #info Currently OpenStack is allocating rooms for official projects, which is the priority | 18:04 |
| bh526r | #info Bin communicated with Thierry, and agreed that once the room assignment for official projects has been done, if there is more spaces available, we can get it | 18:05 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin Hu Right now, the space in Barcelona is tighter compared to prior summits | 18:06 |
| pcarver | #info Paul Carver | 18:06 |
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| bh526r | welcome Paul | 18:06 |
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| bh526r | another topic is that we need to ask for a slot in Nova and/or Neutron's meetings in Barcelona | 18:08 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin will also try to ask for a slot in Nova and/or Neutron's sessions in Barcelona to introduce Gluon | 18:09 |
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| bh526r | That's all of admin update. | 18:09 |
| bh526r | #topic Summary of Face-to-Face Meeting on August 18 and 19 | 18:10 |
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| georgk | thanks for th update | 18:10 |
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| bh526r | #info Gluon had an F2F meeting in Sunnyvale on 8/18 and 8/19. | 18:10 |
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| bh526r | #info The summary of discussion and conclusion is as follows: | 18:11 |
| bh526r | welcome Jin. | 18:11 |
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| bh526r | Please #info your attendance | 18:11 |
| bh526r | #info 1. Group discussed Gluon and Neutron Interaction Model. Group agreed and concluded that: | 18:12 |
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| bh526r | #info 1.1 A Proton stays the same. i.e. YAML -> { Pecan, DB Schema, etcd interface } | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | #info 1.2 Gluon will use Neutron plugin approach for North Bound, i.e. as a Gluon ML2 driver (core plugin) | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | #info - Gluon Wrapper ML2 Driver subclasses ML2 Driver | 18:14 |
| bh526r | #info - If it is Proton port, sends to Proton | 18:14 |
| jinli | #info JinLi join | 18:14 |
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| bh526r | #info - Otherwise, goes to normal ML2 driver | 18:14 |
| bh526r | #info 1.3 Dummy network, subnets etc. object will be used by Gluon ML2 driver to satisfies Nova-Neutron relationship | 18:15 |
| bh526r | #info 1.4 Backend SDN controllers will create network, subnets etc. in our desired way | 18:15 |
| bh526r | #info 1.5 South Bound stays the same etcd to communicate via Shim Layers with SDN Controllers, i.e.: | 18:16 |
| bh526r | #info - Gluon ML2 core plugin will connect with etcd to determine port ownership | 18:16 |
| bh526r | #info - Contrail will use existing plugin/mechanism driver, which is at the same level as etcd | 18:16 |
| bh526r | #info - Contrail’s mechanism driver needs to work with Gluon ML2 Core Plugin | 18:17 |
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| bh526r | #info 1.6 Tom and Jin will look into it if this really works or not | 18:17 |
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| georgk | one question | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info 2. Group discussed how to explore Gluon ML2 Core Plugin | 18:18 |
| georgk | for my understanding | 18:18 |
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| bh526r | #info 2.1 Experiment with wrapping / sub-classing method | 18:18 |
| bh526r | Sure, what is the question, Georg? | 18:19 |
| georgk | have you guys looked into how you can ¨go to normal¨ ML2 driver | 18:19 |
| georgk | or rather: is that part of Tom´s investigation? | 18:19 |
| bh526r | Tom and Jin are looking into it. | 18:19 |
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| georgk | ok | 18:19 |
| bh526r | Yes, that is part of Tom's investigation - how to implement this ML2 Plugin approach | 18:20 |
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| bh526r | Tom cannot join today, because of an overlapping meeting. | 18:20 |
| bh526r | And he has been recovering from laptop issues in the past a few days | 18:20 |
| georgk | ok, I see | 18:21 |
| bh526r | #info - If successful, done | 18:21 |
| KamilRenczewski | Another one from me: | 18:21 |
| georgk | sorry for canceling yesterdays meeting by the way | 18:21 |
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| bh526r | Not a problem, Georg | 18:21 |
| kamal___ | #info Kamal Hussain | 18:21 |
| bh526r | Yes, Kamil | 18:21 |
| KamilRenczewski | Contrail should implement its own ML2 plugin or driver for gluon plugin? | 18:21 |
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| bh526r | Based on conversation with Nachi last week, Contrail's plugin is at the same level of Gluon Neutron Plugin | 18:23 |
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| bh526r | So it reuses its own ML2 plugin | 18:23 |
| KamilRenczewski | OK | 18:23 |
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| bh526r | The challenge is there is still a need of shim layer in Contrail to sync up with etcd | 18:24 |
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| bh526r | #info 2.2 If not successful, we try to fix ML2 by working with Neutron ML2 team | 18:25 |
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| bh526r | #info - If successful, done | 18:25 |
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| bh526r | #info 2.3 If not successful, we will use Original Gluon Model, i.e. Nova-Gluon-Neutron | 18:25 |
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| bh526r | #info - Customization for commercial deployment | 18:26 |
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| bh526r | #info Tom and Jin look into it if this really works or not | 18:26 |
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| bh526r | #info 3. Group discussed Demo Scope for OpenStack Summit in Barcelona, and agreed: | 18:27 |
| bh526r | #info 3.1 Multiple SDN Controller Backend Interoperability – use Proton | 18:27 |
| bh526r | #info - New interaction Model with Neutron, compared to demo in OPNFV Summit | 18:27 |
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| kamal___ | Regarding new usecases, Ian had mentioned Point to Point services. Any concrete examples on this? | 18:28 |
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| bh526r | #info - Create VM with two vNICs. Neutron Port (e.g Linux Bridge) and Gluon Port (OVS, vRouter, etc) | 18:28 |
| bh526r | #info 3.2 New service on-demand (new Proton/APIs generated on-demand) | 18:29 |
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| bh526r | #info - Dummy service implementation | 18:29 |
| bh526r | #info 4. Group also discussed that we need to clean up Nova Plugin so that we can have Gluon as Neutron Proxy, which is our model today | 18:30 |
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| bh526r | #info Group recognized that it would take long time. | 18:30 |
| bh526r | #info Ian will work on it, and in his to-do list | 18:30 |
| bh526r | ok, that is pretty much the summary of what we discussed and agreed last week | 18:31 |
| bh526r | any other question? | 18:31 |
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| bh526r | ok, let's move on | 18:32 |
| bh526r | #topic New Blueprint Discussion | 18:32 |
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| bh526r | based on what we discussed last week, I created 2 BPs: | 18:33 |
| bh526r | Gluon ML2 Plugin BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-gluon/+spec/gluon-ml2-plugin | 18:33 |
| bh526r | Gluon Nova Plugin BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-gluon/+spec/gluon-nova-plugin | 18:33 |
| bh526r | ML2 Plugin is assigned to Tom, and Nova Plugin is assigned to Ian | 18:34 |
| bh526r | Any question? | 18:34 |
| bh526r | #info Based on F2F discussion, 2 Blueprints were created: | 18:35 |
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| bh526r | One is for Gluon ML2 Plugin BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-gluon/+spec/gluon-ml2-plugin. This is assigned to Tom | 18:35 |
| bh526r | #info One is for Gluon ML2 Plugin BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-gluon/+spec/gluon-ml2-plugin. This is assigned to Tom | 18:35 |
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| bh526r | #info The other one is for Gluon Nova Plugin BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-gluon/+spec/gluon-nova-plugin. This is assigned to Ian | 18:36 |
| bh526r | Anu question and comments? | 18:36 |
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| bh526r | Shall we approve them so that Tom and Ian can officially work on it? | 18:37 |
| georgk | ok, do we need to approve them officially? | 18:37 |
| bh526r | We need in record. | 18:38 |
| georgk | :-) | 18:38 |
| georgk | ok | 18:38 |
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| bh526r | If you need more time to read it, it is fine too and we can approve it next week | 18:38 |
| georgk | no, I am good | 18:39 |
| georgk | I am rather uninformed when it comes to the official ways of working | 18:39 |
| bh526r | Thank you. | 18:39 |
| georgk | we can approve it | 18:39 |
| bh526r | :) | 18:39 |
| georgk | do we need a quorum? | 18:39 |
| pcarver | The Nova one is pretty vague. Shouldn't it have more detail in it? | 18:40 |
| bh526r | Good question. | 18:40 |
| bh526r | We can ask Ian to add more details in it. | 18:40 |
| pcarver | The ML2 one seems ok | 18:40 |
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| bh526r | I propose to approve the Gluon ML2 Plugin BP. | 18:41 |
| pcarver | +1 | 18:41 |
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| KamilRenczewski | +1 | 18:41 |
| georgk | +1 | 18:42 |
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| bh526r | Great, and thank you. Gluon ML2 Plugin BP is approved | 18:42 |
| bh526r | I will communicate with Ian to add more details in Nova Plugin BP | 18:42 |
| bh526r | #info Gluon ML2 Plugin BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-gluon/+spec/gluon-ml2-plugin is approved unanimously | 18:43 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin will communicate with Ian to add more details in Nova Plugin BP | 18:43 |
| bh526r | Thank you | 18:43 |
| bh526r | #topic Tracking Progress of PoC | 18:44 |
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| bh526r | In F2F meeting last week, it was indicated that for PM purpose, Jira is a better tool than Launchpad | 18:44 |
| bh526r | So I created a JIRA ticket under OPNFV NetReady project to track PoC | 18:45 |
| bh526r | This is also in line with NetReady's role of originating PoC | 18:45 |
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| bh526r | https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/NETREADY-21 | 18:45 |
| bh526r | The fixed version field is empty so it won't be mixed with any OPNFV releases | 18:46 |
| pcarver | I assume this is PM for the surrounding non-programming tasks, right? | 18:46 |
| bh526r | The label is OpenStack-Gluon to group all related tickets together | 18:46 |
| pcarver | Launchpad + Gerrit would be used to track all coding activity I hope? | 18:46 |
| bh526r | Yes, coding is under the ML2 Driver BP and tracked by Gerrit in OpenStack, of course | 18:47 |
| pcarver | Jira makes sense for things that don't belong under Git | 18:47 |
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| bh526r | Jira is for all tasks, including logistics | 18:47 |
| pcarver | ok. Thanks makes sense | 18:47 |
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| pcarver | But we should use Launchpad whiteboard to track all Gerrit reviews associated with each blueprint | 18:48 |
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| pcarver | Jira for tasks, activities that aren't in the form of Git commits | 18:49 |
| bh526r | Coding related will be done in Gerrit and BP/Launchpad | 18:49 |
| bh526r | That's why we created the BP for this coding | 18:49 |
| pcarver | Coding and I assume also documentation. We should keep documentation under Git as well. | 18:49 |
| bh526r | In Jira, I also created a story under the PoC Epic: https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/NETREADY-22 | 18:49 |
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| bh526r | which reference back to BP for all coding related work, and documentation | 18:50 |
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| bh526r | So Jira is for PoC related tasks | 18:50 |
| bh526r | And the coding and documentation related task is referenced back to BP so that those will be tracked in Gerrit and BP | 18:51 |
| pcarver | That sounds good | 18:51 |
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| georgk | yes, sounds good | 18:52 |
| bh526r | #info A JIRA ticket was created as PM tool for PoC: https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/NETREADY-21 | 18:53 |
| bh526r | #info Note that it is only for PoC related tasks, including logistics and other non-coding tasks | 18:53 |
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| bh526r | #info Coding the documentation related tasks are referenced back to BP so that those will be tracked in Gerrit and BP/Launchpad in OpenStack | 18:54 |
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| bh526r | #info For example, a story of Gluon ML2 Driver in JIRA references back to Gluon ML2 Driver BP: https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/NETREADY-22 | 18:55 |
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| bh526r | #info Details of the Gluon ML2 Driver work will be tracked in Gerrit and BP/Launchpad | 18:55 |
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| bh526r | #info Once the coding and documentation are completed, JIRA will merely change ths status to "Resolved". | 18:56 |
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| bh526r | That's all for today from my side | 18:57 |
| bh526r | Any question/suggestion/comment? | 18:57 |
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| georgk | i am good | 18:57 |
| bh526r | We are good. Thank you all and talk to you next week | 18:58 |
| georgk | thanks for the update Bin | 18:58 |
| bh526r | #info Meeting adjourned | 18:58 |
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| georgk | byw | 18:58 |
| georgk | bye | 18:58 |
| KamilRenczewski | Thanks for all the information | 18:58 |
| KamilRenczewski | bye | 18:58 |
| bh526r | Thank you Georg and have a good night | 18:58 |
| bh526r | Bye all | 18:58 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 24 18:58:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-08-24-18.01.html | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-08-24-18.01.txt | 18:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-08-24-18.01.log.html | 18:58 |
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