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| thinrichs | Time for the Congress meeting | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | courtesy ping: aimeeu, ekcs, masahito, ramineni | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 25 00:02:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:02 |
| aimeeu | good day everyone! | 00:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:02 |
| masahito | hello | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | Here's my agenda for today… | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 1. newton3 | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 2. status updates | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:03 |
| masahito | summit room | 00:04 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: thanks! | 00:04 |
| masahito | I saw some mails in openstack-dev ML about how much they want to request summit room. | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | 3. summit rooms | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | Let's get started. | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | #topic newton3 | 00:05 |
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| thinrichs | We release newton3 next week along with the client library | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | So we should be getting our least features in over the next week | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | Anything that we're worried about finishing in time? | 00:06 |
| masahito | I noticed client doesn't support pushing data | 00:07 |
| ekcs | I’m not working on any features right now. but working on testing. only concern is finding out something is broken last min. | 00:07 |
| masahito | I'll push it in today. | 00:08 |
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| ramineni_ | hi, sorry, im late | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | Okay, so that seems like there's nothing too risky to pay much attention too. | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: hi. Going over newton3. Any features you're worried about not getting finished by next week? | 00:09 |
| ramineni_ | no, i think should be fine | 00:10 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else for newton3 then? | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | #topic meeting rooms for barcelona | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | We need to figure out how many rooms to request for barcelona and what types of rooms. | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | 2 types of rooms. Small ones (20ish, if it's like Austin) and large ones (50ish people) | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | Large rooms are better if we want to engage non-congress teams | 00:14 |
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| thinrichs | Small rooms are good for us. | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | Last couple of summits we had 3 small and 1 large room. | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | It's worth brainstorming about what topics we'd want to cover in the small rooms and whether we have a cross-project topic for a large room. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | Any thoughts? | 00:15 |
| aimeeu | Are there many blueprints for Ocata? | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | The majority of our focus has been on HAHT for quite some time. | 00:16 |
| thinrichs | The policy-history blueprint is out there (masahito). | 00:17 |
| aimeeu | Ok. I see there are a number of approved blueprints that haven't been started. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | hmmm. cross project collab discussion (like last time) would definitely be good if there is interest. not sure if there is the same kind of interest though. | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | Now that we're almost out from under HAHT, I'd say it's time to return to the long-term goal of proliferating policy throughout the openstack ecosystem | 00:19 |
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| thinrichs | Devoting a session to brainstorming how we might do that seems worthwhile to me. | 00:20 |
| aimeeu | As a newbie I like that idea. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | Going back to some use-cases and understanding how to drive them | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | That | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | That'll take up 1-2 small sessions I'd say. | 00:21 |
| thinrichs | If we have concrete teams we want to talk to, we could pull them into a Large room. | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: we could invite the vitrage and watcher teams for the large session to update each other on projects and look for synergies. | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | (Those were the 2 projects from last summit that seemed quite close in goals.) | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | Let's all brainstorm so that next week we can have another discussion. | 00:23 |
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| thinrichs | Right now I'm thinking we ask for our usual 3+1 rooms. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | Any thoughts/comments? | 00:24 |
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| ekcs | makes sense! | 00:25 |
| masahito | thinrichs: I agreed. then let's discuss what we use the slot in etherpad or somewhere. | 00:25 |
| thinrichs | Great! Moving on then… | 00:25 |
| thinrichs | #topic status | 00:25 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni_: want to give a status update? | 00:25 |
| ramineni_ | sure | 00:25 |
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| ramineni_ | last week, mostly i was trying to complete/update the patches which are put up already. | 00:27 |
| ramineni_ | some pacthes are removing old dse code | 00:27 |
| ramineni_ | reminding me, should we remove one gate job, where we test distrubuted_architecture=False, i think its not useful now right | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: agreed that we can drop that gate job | 00:28 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs: great, ill remove them then | 00:29 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs: thats it from my side | 00:29 |
| ekcs | should we keep the gate job just make it do nothing for now? so we can easily reappropriate it for something else later? | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | There's also the job where we run tests2, but that's empty | 00:29 |
| ekcs | instead of waiting for infra. | 00:29 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs: yes, both we need to remove , | 00:29 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: why do we want that? | 00:30 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: we can make both gate jobs do test only dist_arch=True | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: I think we need to wait on infra to change what the gate jobs are doing anyway | 00:30 |
| ekcs | we’ll need another gate job for HA when that’s ready. I figure we may shift things over | 00:30 |
| ekcs | where regular gate now runs dist_arch=True. | 00:31 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: that need changes anyway in infra | 00:31 |
| ekcs | and newarch gate runs HA. | 00:31 |
| ekcs | oh ak. | 00:31 |
| ekcs | ok | 00:31 |
| ramineni_ | ill try to post the job on HA also this week | 00:32 |
| ekcs | nvm then =p | 00:32 |
| masahito | ekcs: I think infra team usually doesn't refuse our requests adding new voting test, so we don't need to mind it. | 00:32 |
| masahito | :) | 00:32 |
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| thinrichs | aimeeu: want to give us a status update? | 00:33 |
| aimeeu | Sure. I was on vacation last week so not much from me. | 00:33 |
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| aimeeu | I pushed an update to the HA guides #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350731/2 thanks masahito for your comments | 00:34 |
| aimeeu | I plan to work on #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1602837 the rest of this week | 00:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1602837 in congress "Policy UI (Horizon): Unable to get policies list (devstack)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Aimee Ukasick (aimeeu) | 00:34 |
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| aimeeu | That's it for me | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: Any luck with devstack? | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | We all struggle with it | 00:35 |
| aimeeu | not in the VM. I just installed Ubuntu server on a spare laptop and will try devstack there. Worst case I disable Tempest in the local.conf | 00:36 |
| aimeeu | at least that will give me running devstack instance so I can work on my bugs | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | Sounds good. Getting the right base OS can be a challenge | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | masahito: want to go next? | 00:37 |
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| ekcs | aimeeu: I think it’s an SSL issue. I’ll irc/email you more later if I find a solution. | 00:37 |
| masahito | ok | 00:37 |
| masahito | 1. Starting to clean up old dse codes in policy engine | 00:37 |
| masahito | 2. First patch for lazy datasource was merged. Working on other datasource supporting the feature | 00:37 |
| masahito | 3. Working on client codes to support push-data | 00:37 |
| masahito | that's from my side | 00:37 |
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| thinrichs | Is (3) going into newton? | 00:37 |
| masahito | The change is not big. So if someone could review it I think we can go. | 00:39 |
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| masahito | I think our client supports all API the server has. | 00:39 |
| masahito | How do you think? | 00:40 |
| thinrichs | masahito: sounds good. | 00:40 |
| thinrichs | The client should support that for sure. We forgot to add it at the end of mitaka. | 00:41 |
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| masahito | right. And not tested the API well at mitaka release. | 00:42 |
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| masahito | But now we have tempest test for the API. | 00:43 |
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| thinrichs | All sounds good to me. | 00:44 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: status? | 00:44 |
| ekcs | Been working on doing HA functional testing inside test_congress. Current plan is to spin up new processes using Popen, similar to how it's done in testHA. Except using congress_server.py rather than bin/congress-server | 00:44 |
| ekcs | N API+PE nodes on different ports, 1 DSD node, each in it's own process. | 00:44 |
| ekcs | Not totally sure it'll work yet. Will probably need to force some tests to be non-parallel to avoid DB clashing. Is it bad practice to Popen in the unittest framework? | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | I also came across something weird where even though config.py has distributed_architecture default to True, congress_server.py still sees it as False if not specified in conf file. Maybe it's user error on my part. Still investigating. | 00:45 |
| ekcs | Other than that, I have the auto resub patch ready. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/356806/ | 00:45 |
| ekcs | But it has a limitation that if there is only a single update, but that update gets lost, it would not be detected as missing. If we have time I'd like to hear your thoughts on whether that's fine or we should take a different approach. | 00:45 |
| ekcs | That’s all. | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | The distributed_arch flag seems worrisome. I thought we removed all the code that used it, so it wouldn't matter what it was set to. | 00:48 |
| thinrichs | Or is there still code that depends on it? | 00:48 |
| ramineni_ | yes, we need to remove from congress_server I guess | 00:49 |
| ekcs | I didn’t find any real code that depended on it. just surface things like disallowing certain flags without it. easy to fix. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | I’m just stumped as to why it shows up as false even though we set default to true. | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | Okay. Sounded like a scary thing at first, but not so scary now. | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | The unittests sound interesting. I don't know about conventions around popen. | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | I'm guessing it's frowned upon. | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | But we only have 2 real options: tempest and unittests. | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | It's hard to tell on the auto-resub patch. | 00:52 |
| ekcs | Once it’s done as unittest, it shouldn’t be hard to convert to tempest if desired. | 00:52 |
| thinrichs | Missing a case is obviously not great, but for us we expect the datasources to be continually sending updates. | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | If there's an edge case that only happens when (a) you kill a datasource and (b) the last message gets lost in transit, I'd say that's acceptable. | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | You're killing the datasource anyway. | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | Or is this also a problem with push drivers? | 00:53 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: exactly. the missing a case was a deliberate design to use only information availble on teh receiver end. but with push driver, it’s not good. | 00:54 |
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| thinrichs | Is the policy engine syncing pushed data from the DB? | 00:54 |
| ekcs | if push just once and never again, but that one update is lost, then we don’t detect it. | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | not syncing at the moment. only the dsd grabs from DB if it restarts. | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | B/c then there wouldn't be a problem | 00:55 |
| ekcs | maybe those interested can take a look at the alternatives I described in the commit message. | 00:56 |
| ekcs | and say what you think. | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | Lost track of time…let's all comment on this in gerrit | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | 4 minutes left | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 00:56 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else to discuss? | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | (If not, we can continue the auto-resub discussion.) | 00:56 |
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| thinrichs | Back to auto-resub then I guess... | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | If the pusher sends 2 messages, will we detect that the 2nd didn't happen if it gets lost? | 00:58 |
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| ekcs | no. | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | So we may always miss the last message | 00:58 |
| ekcs | right. | 00:59 |
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| thinrichs | Hmmm…the push driver may be different anyway though | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | because there's no reasonable interval we can use to detect when a message *should* have arrived | 00:59 |
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| thinrichs | Am I thinking about that right? | 00:59 |
| ekcs | well the alternative is for the DSD to broadcast in HB last push time/seqnum | 01:00 |
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| ekcs | or for the subscriber to periodically request that from all publishers. | 01:00 |
| ekcs | anyway I have sketched the options in the patch. | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | I see. There must be standard answers to these questions. | 01:01 |
| ekcs | HB as in heartbeat. | 01:01 |
| thinrichs | Out of time. | 01:01 |
| masahito | another alternative is subscriber pull data from push (or poll) driver every time when they want to need the data | 01:01 |
| thinrichs | Remember to think about ideas you'd like to see covered in the summit sessions! | 01:01 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 01:01 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 25 01:01:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-08-25-00.02.html | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-08-25-00.02.txt | 01:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-08-25-00.02.log.html | 01:01 |
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| newcomer25 | The whole Law is fulfilled in one statement: ‘You’ll love your neighbour as much as yourself’ - Galatians 5:14 | 08:30 |
| newcomer25 | God bless you all and have fun chatting! | 08:30 |
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| andreaf | #startmeeting qa | 09:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 25 09:07:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 09:07 |
| dmellado | hi guys, who's around? ;) | 09:07 |
| andreaf | good morning / evening everyone, sorry about the delayed start | 09:07 |
| masayukig | andreaf : thanks for your hosting :) | 09:08 |
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| andreaf | I don't have an agenda ready for today, but we can re-use last week's | 09:08 |
| andreaf | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_August_18th_2016_.281700_UTC.29 | 09:08 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:08 |
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| andreaf | #topic newton priorities | 09:10 |
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| andreaf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-qa-newton-priorities | 09:10 |
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| chandankumar | Hello everybody. | 09:11 |
| andreaf | I don't have anything specific on this today | 09:11 |
| andreaf | hello chandankumar | 09:11 |
| gyx | hello | 09:11 |
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| chandankumar | This is my first qa meeting, looking forward to working with you guys upstream. | 09:12 |
| dmellado | chandankumar: o/ | 09:12 |
| andreaf | We plan to address some of the remaining open items during the sprint | 09:12 |
| chandankumar | dmellado: \o/ | 09:12 |
| * masayukig is waving | 09:12 | |
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| * chandankumar waves back. | 09:12 | |
| masayukig | :) | 09:12 |
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| andreaf | Just a reminder that the qa/infra sprint is going to be 19th -21st of September in Walldorf, Germany: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/QAInfraNewtonSprint | 09:13 |
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| andreaf | ok let's move on | 09:14 |
| andreaf | #topic spec reviews | 09:14 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:14 |
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| jordanP | not much since last week, I didnt read the spec although I said I would... | 09:15 |
| andreaf | Nothing really new here, just a note that we have two spec that could use some more reviews | 09:15 |
| andreaf | jordanP: heh :) | 09:15 |
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| andreaf | I meant to re-spin my spec, but I didn't yet | 09:16 |
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| masayukig | I actually paid attention for the specs these days, but I'll do. | 09:16 |
| dmellado | I'll re-read them, still wrapping up after PTO | 09:17 |
| andreaf | dmellado: welcome back | 09:17 |
| dmellado | andreaf: thanks! ;) | 09:17 |
| andreaf | masayukig: thanks | 09:17 |
| andreaf | ok, let's move on | 09:17 |
| jordanP | I like the fixture spec but I had/have so many issue with resources not properly cleaned up (leak) and shared resources that triggers race conditions | 09:17 |
| jordanP | that I am afraid to change everything now | 09:17 |
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| jordanP | I am not sure continuing the way we do now (addCleanup or cleanup_resource) is a dead end | 09:18 |
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| andreaf | jordanP: uhm good point | 09:19 |
| andreaf | jordanP: part of the spec should be to track what's left around and log of fail at the end of the test run if we leave things around | 09:19 |
| andreaf | jordanP: I can add something about that | 09:19 |
| andreaf | jordanP: the idea is to make the code more readable and debuggable | 09:20 |
| jordanP | I think tracking what's left could fit into DevStack | 09:20 |
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| andreaf | jordanP: well we could have commands for that in Tempest and trigger them in devstack | 09:20 |
| jordanP | if people stopped reinventing the wheel (like how to create a volume) in each test, that would be great to begin with :) | 09:20 |
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| jordanP | andreaf, true | 09:20 |
| dmellado | lol | 09:21 |
| dmellado | I'll read that part of the spec, but couldn't the cleanup be used for that? | 09:21 |
| andreaf | jordanP: fixture can be created from existing methods quite easily, so it would not have to be such a massive code change | 09:22 |
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| jordanP | given that these methods are used everywhere/consistently | 09:22 |
| andreaf | jordanP: but we do need to make those resource helpers a stable interface (credential providers & co) for plugins | 09:23 |
| andreaf | jordanP: so since we need to refactor them anyways, the idea is to create a nice interface for plugins to use | 09:23 |
| jordanP | andreaf, do you think that in the end, all fixtures should be in tempest-lib ? | 09:23 |
| andreaf | jordanP: so we can avoid resource leaks from plugins as well | 09:23 |
| andreaf | credential providers should be | 09:24 |
| jordanP | for sure | 09:24 |
| dmellado | that'd be a good idea | 09:24 |
| andreaf | the mechanism to provision network resources for credentials as well | 09:24 |
| jordanP | what about volume and server ? I am afraid tempest-lib will become fat | 09:24 |
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| andreaf | jordanP: validation resources may be another candidate, since ssh checks can be quite a common thing to do | 09:25 |
| andreaf | jordanP: you mean helpers to provision server and volumes? | 09:25 |
| jordanP | yup | 09:25 |
| jordanP | are those fixtures according to you ? | 09:26 |
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| andreaf | jordanP: they are not written using the fixtures interface but many of them are kind of fixtures since they schedule the cleanup | 09:26 |
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| jordanP | I didn"t know fixtures had interface | 09:27 |
| jordanP | anyway, I'll leave comments on the spec :) | 09:28 |
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| andreaf | jordanP: #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/fixtures | 09:29 |
| jordanP | ok | 09:29 |
| andreaf | jordanP: for resources that are used by a test only, addCleanup the way to ensure cleanup and implement a fixture | 09:30 |
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| jordanP | aren't you missing a word on that last sentence ? | 09:30 |
| jordanP | addCleanup *is* the way ? | 09:30 |
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| andreaf | jordanP: for resources that are used by several tests though, we rely right now on tearDownClass and on the enhanced setUpClass that I wrote to ensure tearDownClass is alwaays invoked (which is not true normally, as it won't be invoked in case of failure during setUpClass) | 09:31 |
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| andreaf | yes *is* the way | 09:31 |
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| andreaf | jordanP: so I thought we could introduce a addClassCleanup https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351871/ which does the same as addCleanup but at class level | 09:32 |
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| jordanP | imo, most of the time, sharing resources between tests is not worth it | 09:33 |
| dmellado | jordanP: so you'd recreat them? | 09:33 |
| dmellado | recreate | 09:33 |
| jordanP | yes | 09:33 |
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| jordanP | if they are cheap like, volumes, servers (not booted from a volume), networks etc... | 09:34 |
| andreaf | jordanP, dmellado: well, there are things that can be re-used such as credentials and their networks - I think those are worth re-using | 09:34 |
| dmellado | andreaf: +1 on the credentials | 09:34 |
| jordanP | maybe let's move on ? | 09:34 |
| andreaf | jordanP, dmellado: there's value in re-using them as well as that may uncover extra issues | 09:34 |
| jordanP | true | 09:35 |
| dmellado | and I was also thinking about servers, not reusing them might lead to expand the test times at the gates | 09:35 |
| andreaf | dmellado: well, it depends, if we break the class constraint and use a smart scheduler not necessarily - which is what lifeless is proposing with testresources | 09:35 |
| andreaf | dmellado: however that may involve a lot of changes, I have a todo item to look into it | 09:36 |
| jordanP | removing duplicate tests or make long tests run faster would bring a bigger benefit that using shared resources imo | 09:36 |
| dmellado | andreaf: I see, I'll need to take a look at testresources then too | 09:37 |
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| masayukig | jordanP: +1 | 09:37 |
| dmellado | jordanP: I'm +1 on trying that, but maybe we can try both approaches | 09:37 |
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| dmellado | it'll be even better that way xD | 09:38 |
| andreaf | jordanP. dmellado: the main priorities in any case are code readability, debuggability and stable interface for plugins - I don't think we have a big issue in term of gate time to tackle | 09:38 |
| jordanP | +1 | 09:38 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:38 |
| andreaf | we have 20min left, so probably we should move to the other topics | 09:38 |
| dmellado | let's move on | 09:38 |
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| andreaf | please leave comments on the spec | 09:39 |
| andreaf | #topic Tempest | 09:39 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 09:39 |
| andreaf | anything to be discussed on Tempest side? | 09:39 |
| jordanP | I have this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331764/ | 09:39 |
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| jordanP | I'd like another +2 :) | 09:40 |
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| andreaf | jordanP: look reasonable to me, I'll check later | 09:41 |
| masayukig | jordanP : I'll do it if it'll remain :) | 09:41 |
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| andreaf | One thing on my side is that I think it would be good to make a release for tempest, since the new interface for service clients in out | 09:42 |
| andreaf | not all service clients are stable yet, but I'm not sure we should wait for that | 09:42 |
| dmellado | andreaf: that's what we were chatting about yesterday | 09:43 |
| dmellado | +1 from my side, only I'd put out another tag when the clients are done too | 09:43 |
| andreaf | dmellado: yes that would make sense | 09:43 |
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| andreaf | ok let's move on | 09:45 |
| andreaf | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 09:45 |
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| andreaf | Anything to be discussed on these two? | 09:45 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-dev/devstack+status:open | 09:46 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-dev/grenade+status:open | 09:46 |
| * andreaf waits a few more seconds... | 09:46 | |
| andreaf | #topic OpenStack-Health | 09:47 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health+status:open | 09:47 |
| andreaf | anything on o-h? | 09:47 |
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| masayukig | I made 2 patches #link https://review.openstack.org/359059 | 09:47 |
| masayukig | and | 09:47 |
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| masayukig | #link https://review.openstack.org/353274 | 09:47 |
| masayukig | for changing the graphs. | 09:47 |
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| masayukig | Please have a look if you have time :) | 09:48 |
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| masayukig | That's all from me. | 09:48 |
| andreaf | look nice, thanks | 09:49 |
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| andreaf | on subunit2sql, two patches got merged, that fix the option to get test attributes into the test_metadata table | 09:50 |
| andreaf | and also introduce a new config option to drop the prefix before injection | 09:50 |
| andreaf | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack-infra/subunit2sql+branch:master+topic:story/2000698 | 09:50 |
| andreaf | I wonder if we could make a subunit2sql release for those? | 09:51 |
| andreaf | masayukig? | 09:51 |
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| masayukig | I think it's nice. | 09:51 |
| masayukig | Who can do that? mtreinish or oomichi? | 09:52 |
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| andreaf | masayukig: not sure, I guess both could, but neither is here now :) | 09:52 |
| andreaf | I will ping them later today | 09:52 |
| masayukig | thanks | 09:52 |
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| dmellado | +1 to grant andreaf or someone in EMEA 'power' to do that too xD | 09:53 |
| andreaf | dmellado: heh I'm not sure we need releases so urgently that they cannot wait a few more hours | 09:53 |
| andreaf | dmellado: but worth discussing :) | 09:54 |
| dmellado | andreaf: totally, but it'd be a nice-to | 09:54 |
| andreaf | ok maybe for next week's meeting | 09:54 |
| andreaf | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:55 |
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| andreaf | Any review that needs urgent attention? | 09:55 |
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| andreaf | apart from those mentioned earlier ? :) | 09:56 |
| andreaf | #topic Open Discussion | 09:57 |
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| andreaf | there are 3 minutes left, for any topic to be discussed | 09:57 |
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| jordanP | nothing from my side, have a good QA week :) | 09:58 |
| dmellado | same here! | 09:58 |
| andreaf | same to you! | 09:58 |
| masayukig | yay! | 09:58 |
| andreaf | thanks everyone for attending and contributing today | 09:59 |
| andreaf | #endmeeting | 09:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 25 09:59:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-08-25-09.07.html | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-08-25-09.07.txt | 09:59 |
| masayukig | thanks!! | 09:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-08-25-09.07.log.html | 09:59 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 25 14:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:00 |
| markus_z | o/ | 14:00 |
| dansmith | #chair alaski | 14:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: alaski dansmith | 14:00 |
| alaski | o/ | 14:00 |
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| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:00 |
| dansmith | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 14:00 |
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| dansmith | #topic Release | 14:00 |
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| raj_singh | o/ | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| scottda | hi | 14:01 |
| dansmith | #link Newton release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 14:01 |
| dansmith | #info Aug 22-26: final non-client library release (oslo) - so if you need things released from dependent libraries get them done soon | 14:01 |
| dansmith | we had a couple critical fixes go into o.vo for newton which I think we're in good shape for now | 14:01 |
| dansmith | any other things about the release? | 14:01 |
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| dansmith | I think we made some progress on outstanding cells and placement patches in the last week or so, which is good | 14:02 |
| alaski | yep | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a bug about os-vif still rumbing on | 14:02 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | I will try dig up the link, its about when you use ovs I think | 14:02 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: okay lets move onto the bugs part and you can link us | 14:02 |
| dansmith | anything else on the release and scheduling? | 14:02 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 14:03 |
| dansmith | #topic Bugs | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:03 | |
| dansmith | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:03 |
| dansmith | the gate has been pretty suck recently but I think we merged some fixes yesterday so hopefully it's better? | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | aye | 14:04 |
| dansmith | anything else on gate? | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | OSIC folks lit up some more capacity recently | 14:04 |
| dansmith | ah excellent | 14:04 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | which should help with pure node terms | 14:04 |
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| alaski | nice | 14:04 |
| dansmith | there's a question in here from matt I assume: | 14:04 |
| dansmith | Should we make gate-tempest-dsvm-multinode-live-migration voting now? It's relatively stable after skipping the volume-backed tests and we can control it in tree. | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | although that was earlier in the week, so we should have seen that already | 14:04 |
| dansmith | I thought he had a patch up for it already | 14:05 |
| alaski | I think these notes are for last weeks meeting | 14:05 |
| dansmith | but if it's stable I'm definitely good with more live migration voting | 14:05 |
| dansmith | ah | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1616240 | 14:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1616240 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Traceback in vif.py execv() arg 2 must contain only strings" [High,New] | 14:05 |
| alaski | yep, that job is voting now | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats the os-vif one that came up | 14:05 |
| dansmith | okay | 14:05 |
| dansmith | is anyone around that can work on that? | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | about ovs I think, looks like priv sep is spitting out something odd | 14:06 |
| dansmith | danpb is at linuxcon this week and is pretty much offline from what I can tell | 14:06 |
| alaski | jaypipes is out this week as well | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | I have been taking a peak, but its more a voage of discovery for me | 14:06 |
| dansmith | okay well that would be good | 14:07 |
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| dansmith | otherwise we're kinda hamstrung until next week I think | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I will have a dig and see | 14:07 |
| dansmith | thanks | 14:07 |
| dansmith | any other critical bugs? | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | it kinda helps my neutron thinkings anyways | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I admit I haven't gone looking recently | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | that just popped up in IRC | 14:08 |
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| dansmith | well, if they're not on fire in the gate, they're probably not too critical so that's good I guess | 14:08 |
| dansmith | okay, on to: | 14:08 |
| dansmith | #topic reminders | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:08 | |
| dansmith | this is old but probably still legit as a reminder: | 14:08 |
| dansmith | #info Stop proposing centralize / cleanup config option changes until at least after feature freeze on 9/2. | 14:08 |
| bauzas | anyway, I guess we can still release a library version if that's fixing a regression ? | 14:08 |
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| dansmith | yeah I dunno, I guess we always can, but oslo likes to go into deep freeze I think | 14:09 |
| dansmith | also generic reminder: #link Newton review focus list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:09 |
| dansmith | and finally: | 14:09 |
| dansmith | #help https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty Volunteers for 1 week of bug skimming duty? | 14:09 |
| dansmith | anything else here in reminders? | 14:10 |
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| dansmith | freeze is coming up next week | 14:10 |
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| dansmith | okay, moving on.. | 14:10 |
| dansmith | #topic stable branch status | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:10 | |
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| dansmith | I think matt was poking for some important reviews last week which merged, so I assume the pipeline is somewhat cleared there | 14:11 |
| dansmith | anyone have anything burning on a stable branch? | 14:11 |
| dansmith | lyarwood is also at linuxcon, so not around atm | 14:11 |
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| dansmith | alright you peeps are doing great at keeping this short :P | 14:12 |
| dansmith | #topic subteam highlights | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:12 | |
| dansmith | alaski: go | 14:12 |
| alaski | no cellsv2 meeting this week | 14:12 |
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| alaski | need reviews, they're on the priority etherpad | 14:12 |
| alaski | fin | 14:12 |
| dansmith | I like that "no meeting" is a highlight | 14:13 |
| alaski | :) | 14:13 |
| dansmith | edleafe: scheduler things? | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | heh | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Very short meeting. Just pointed out some reviews that needed attention | 14:13 |
| edleafe | That's it | 14:13 |
| dansmith | cool | 14:13 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: I guess the placement series N? | 14:13 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: Jay had some RT stuff | 14:14 |
| edleafe | but we didn't go over everything that we're working on | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats all updated on the etherpad now right? | 14:14 |
| alaski | there's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358361 | 14:14 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: yes | 14:14 |
| bauzas | edleafe: ack, will look at eavesdrop | 14:14 |
| dansmith | PaulMurray isn't around.. anyone have anything from live migrate folks? | 14:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov might? | 14:15 |
| bauzas | (I at least remember clicking the +W button for renaming test_tracker and getting rid of the old and scary test_resource_tracker \o/ ) | 14:15 |
| dansmith | cool | 14:15 |
| dansmith | okay, well, skipping live migration I guess | 14:16 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: looks like some of the links on the etherpad have merged, so I'll update | 14:16 |
| dansmith | sdague: alex_xu: anything important for API? | 14:16 |
| alex_xu | short meeting also. we talk about the left patches which we want to merge before freeze. for now, just 2 patches left | 14:16 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/356963 | 14:16 |
| dansmith | alex_xu: want to link those here? | 14:16 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/322944 | 14:16 |
| alex_xu | dansmith: yea, ^ that is it | 14:16 |
| dansmith | cool, thanks | 14:16 |
| dansmith | alex_xu: anything else? | 14:16 |
| alex_xu | dansmith: that is all | 14:16 |
| dansmith | alex_xu: cool thanks | 14:17 |
| alex_xu | dansmith: np | 14:17 |
| dansmith | moshele isn't around.. anyone have anything for PCI | 14:17 |
| dansmith | ? | 14:17 |
| lbeliveau | yeap | 14:17 |
| lbeliveau | we have only one outstanding patch left for review (waiting for jaypipes) | 14:17 |
| lbeliveau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349060 | 14:17 |
| dansmith | cool, and I was okay with it but want jaypipes to look first | 14:17 |
| dansmith | so probably in good shape there | 14:18 |
| lbeliveau | also, moshele told me they have plans to integrate PCI passthrough in the Mellanox CI | 14:18 |
| dansmith | okay | 14:18 |
| lbeliveau | that's it | 14:18 |
| dansmith | cool | 14:18 |
| dansmith | any subteams I'm missing? | 14:18 |
| dansmith | okie doke | 14:19 |
| dansmith | #topic stuck reviews | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:19 | |
| cdent | not so much stuck as stalled and needing diverse input: | 14:19 |
| cdent | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355263/ | 14:19 |
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| cdent | that's dealing with aggregates in placement or api database or both | 14:19 |
| dansmith | cdent: a clear abuse of the stuck reviews section! | 14:19 |
| cdent | dansmith: i am filled with shame, but something must be done | 14:20 |
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| dansmith | hah | 14:20 |
| dansmith | anything else here? | 14:20 |
| dansmith | stuck or stuck-abuse? | 14:20 |
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| dansmith | alrighty then | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | we should talk about that one in channel after the meeting I guess | 14:20 |
| dansmith | sure | 14:20 |
| bauzas | aye | 14:20 |
| bauzas | because that sounds a big deal | 14:21 |
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| dansmith | okay, so moving on to: | 14:21 |
| dansmith | #topic open discussion | 14:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I have a tiny-ish thing | 14:21 |
| dansmith | I assume these topics are old so I will not list them here | 14:21 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: shoot | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | was at the neutron midycle last week | 14:21 |
| alaski | dansmith: yep, we discussed them last week | 14:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | was good talking about plans for ocata about tracking both port bindings across a live-migrate, having a way to atomically claim a port, etc | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | got some good progress on them understanding the issues we are facing | 14:22 |
| dansmith | cool | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | will follow up with specs and ML summaries | 14:22 |
| dansmith | sweet | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | but they seem very open to ideas, so thats all good | 14:22 |
| dansmith | sdague is at the ops thingy this week, but seems not around so maybe he can summarize for us later as well | 14:23 |
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| abhishekk | Hi all, we need this fix to be backported to Mitaka. | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | Melanie has proposed a fix for this and with reference to her patch I have added another patch. | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355091/ (submitted by melanie witt) | 14:23 |
| sdague | yeh... it's just kicking off now, I'll be intermitently on/off rest of the week | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200870/ (image_ref approach) | 14:23 |
| dansmith | sdague: okay | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | Requesting community members to give their views on this. This issue is pending for almost 2 years. | 14:24 |
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| dansmith | abhishekk: it's been pending for longer than that | 14:24 |
| alaski | abhishekk: that needs to merge in N before it can be backported, and it's somewhat contentious | 14:24 |
| dansmith | I'm -1 on it but I'm in the minority I think | 14:24 |
| dansmith | so I've been abstaining | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | alaski: yes, and I will be grateful to get opinions on this | 14:24 |
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| bauzas | not sure I got the relationship with stable | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: the new approach is less evil | 14:26 |
| dansmith | okay anyway, | 14:26 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: it's less evil, agreed | 14:26 |
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| alaski | abhishekk: I'm planning to send out a ML post on that issue, and other related ones. I'd like more feedback before we proceed. | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | melanie has proposed new solution for this, please give your reviews on this | 14:26 |
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| dansmith | anything else for open discussion? | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | alaski: thank you, hopefully you will get positive feedback | 14:27 |
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| dansmith | anyone? | 14:27 |
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| dansmith | anyone? | 14:27 |
| dansmith | bueller? | 14:27 |
| dansmith | okay EOM | 14:28 |
| dansmith | #endmeeting | 14:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 25 14:28:18 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-08-25-14.00.html | 14:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-08-25-14.00.txt | 14:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-08-25-14.00.log.html | 14:28 |
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