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ddeja_#startmeeting HA09:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  4 09:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ddeja_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: HA)"09:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ha'09:00
ddeja_Hello all09:00
masahitohi09:00
samP_hi09:00
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ddeja_ok, we can start I think09:01
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ddeja_#topic Current Status09:01
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ddeja_my status: I was busy preparing presentation for Austin. I have prepared a lot of materials so I can start preparing slides this week09:02
ddeja_and also, I'm still working on demo movie for Mistral based auto evac09:03
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ddeja_masahito: anything from your side?09:03
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masahitoI updated Masakari's doc for 1.1.0 release.09:04
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ddeja_nice09:04
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masahitoand we could release it early this week.09:05
masahitothat's from my side.09:05
ddeja_masahito: OK, thanks :)09:05
ddeja_anyone else have something to report?09:06
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ddeja_it looks like no09:07
ddeja_#topic Any other business09:07
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masahitoI have two items.09:07
ddeja_go on then :)09:07
masahitoone is about demo in your session.09:07
haukebrunomorning09:07
masahitoanother is about HA meeting in Austin summit09:08
masahitohaukebruno: morning :)09:08
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ddeja_haukebruno: hello09:08
ddeja_ok masahito, start with anything you want :)09:09
masahitoddeja_: thanks.09:09
masahitoddeja_: if needed or time slot is available, we can demo at your session :)09:09
masahitodo you have any agenda for the session?09:09
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ddeja_masahito: you mean presentation, right?09:10
masahitoright09:10
ddeja_masahito: so we have an agenda, let me find a link09:11
ddeja_masahito: and of course, it would be cool if we show another demo. But it has the be short09:11
masahitoddeja_: ok, thanks09:11
ddeja_together with aspiers we were thinking about rather showing a movie than live demo09:12
ddeja_so it is time predictible09:12
masahitook,09:12
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masahitomove to second one.09:13
ddeja_masahito: can I send you a link to agenda tomorrow?09:13
ddeja_I'm on the train right now on another computer and I cannot find a link ;)09:13
masahitoddeja_: if possible, yes please.09:13
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masahitoddeja_: no problem.09:14
ddeja_masahito: ok09:14
masahitoNext, HA Team meeting in Austin.09:15
ddeja_yup09:15
masahitoI think it's nice to get together in Austin to move disscusion onto next level.09:15
ddeja_yeah, I totaly agree09:15
ddeja_masahito: aspiers said he is going to book some time so we can talk09:16
masahitobut, we don't have any room, so we should arrange it09:16
masahitoddeja_: sounds nice.09:16
ddeja_masahito: and what is more, I have proposed a cross-project session09:17
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ddeja_about VM HA09:17
ddeja_so maybe we will have another time slot09:17
ddeja_masahito: ^^09:18
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masahitoI can't see the time slot in the schedule, so I send a mail to ML09:19
masahitoto broadcast what time we can get together.09:19
ddeja_masahito: OK09:19
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masahitothat's it I want to discuss.09:20
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ddeja_ok09:20
ddeja_thank you09:20
ddeja_I have a short action item09:21
ddeja_there is a user story about VM ha09:21
ddeja_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289469/09:21
ddeja_it is drafted by one of intel employees09:22
ddeja_he asked me last week I we as openstack-ha team could review it09:22
ddeja_especially the 'requirements' part09:22
ddeja_I already have somthing on mind and I'll write it as soon as I can09:23
ddeja_but it will be cool if you guys also take a look09:23
ddeja_#action ddeja_ masahito aspiers beekhof to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289469/09:24
haukebrunoI will take a look after the meeting, if I have any feedback, could I come back to you in #openstack-ha ddeja_?09:24
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ddeja_haukebruno: yeah, sure. Also, you can write your feedback directly in the review :)09:24
masahitoddeja_: got it.09:25
ddeja_haukebruno: I may be a little unresponsive today since I'm traveling to Warsaw09:26
ddeja_but I'll response as soon as I can09:26
haukebrunoI see. have a nice travel then ;)09:26
ddeja_haukebruno: thanks. I'm in a train right now actually and it's nice :)09:27
ddeja_OK, anyone else have any topic to discuss?09:27
haukebrunojust a quick answer: is any of you besides aspiers in manchester?09:28
ddeja_I'm going to count to 3 and then end meeting09:28
haukebrunothere is a meetup on april 1309:28
haukebrunoddeja_, ;d09:28
ddeja_haukebruno: I'm not going there09:28
haukebrunoah ok. we try hard to make it :p09:29
haukebrunothen nothing to add from my side09:29
beekhofhi guys, i'm on a customer call at the moment. sorry i cant join :)09:29
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ddeja_beekhof: hi, no problem09:30
ddeja_beekhof: I have one short action item assigned to you minutes before, hope it's not a problem09:30
beekhofyep, all good09:30
ddeja_cool09:31
ddeja_beekhof: you have anything that you want to discuss?09:32
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beekhofnothing urgent09:32
ddeja_OK. So I guess I can end meeting erlier09:33
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masahitooops, I forgot to say that.09:33
ddeja_masahito: what's that?09:33
masahitoI presented about Masakari and HA team's activity in Tokyo user group last month.09:33
masahitoThis is the presentation I used09:34
masahitohttp://www.slideshare.net/masahito12/openstack-masakari09:34
masahitosorry, I used Japanese partially, but I mentioned this teams ;-)09:35
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ddeja_masahito: It is always good time to learn new languages ;)09:35
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haukebrunomasahito, looks cool.09:36
masahitoso someone could have an interest for the team.09:36
masahitothat's what i forgot mention.09:36
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ddeja_masahito: cool. Thank you very much for spreading the idea :)09:38
ddeja_Ok, I'm going to count to 3 and end meeting09:39
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ddeja_OK, thank you all very much and see you next week!09:40
masahitobye09:40
haukebruno:D thanks all + bye09:40
ddeja_#endmeeting09:40
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andreykurilin__#startmeeting Rally14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  4 14:00:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is andreykurilin__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'rally'14:00
ikhudoshynhi there14:00
andreykurilin__o/14:00
stpierrehi all14:00
andreykurilin__hi hih14:00
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andreykurilin__boris-42 amaretskiy rvasilets ping14:01
boris-42hi14:01
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andreykurilin__#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Rally14:01
andreykurilin__aour agenda14:01
andreykurilin__#topic [stpierre] Unsticking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277225/1514:02
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stpierre#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277225/1514:02
stpierrekeystone v3 support is super important to us, and i'm sure to other people14:02
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stpierrebut that review got hung up even before the services spec merged, and with the services spec merged i'm not sure if there's anything at all that we can do to move it forward14:02
boris-42stpierre: make a code?14:03
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stpierremake a code?14:03
boris-42stpierre: for services instead of utils14:03
stpierreok14:03
boris-42stpierre: and validator for versions14:03
stpierrei was afraid you'd say that14:03
andreykurilin__:)14:03
boris-42stpierre: so I will try to do code14:03
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boris-42fianlly I got some time for Rally14:03
stpierreunfortunately we just don't have the bandwidth right now to invest in kicking off the services work14:03
boris-42stpierre: so we need to find otherwise rally as a project will die14:04
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stpierrefeel free to talk to my boss :)14:04
boris-42stpierre: because we will get at the point where we have to many to refactor14:04
rvasiletshi14:04
boris-42stpierre: to many loc14:04
boris-42stpierre: so I will try to make the base14:04
boris-42stpierre: and let's do all together a bit of work14:05
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boris-42rvasilets: amaretskiy andreykurilin__ ^14:05
andreykurilin__ok ok14:05
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rvasiletsYes, i'm agree=)14:06
andreykurilin__lol14:06
redixinTalofa!14:06
andreykurilin__stpierre: anything else?14:07
stpierrenope14:07
andreykurilin__ok14:07
andreykurilin__#topic status of next release14:07
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boris-42andreykurilin__: so I believe we have one blocker14:07
boris-42quite nasty bug14:07
boris-42andreykurilin__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298591/14:08
andreykurilin__yes14:08
boris-42amaretskiy: is helping to finish it ^14:08
amaretskiyi'm working on thi patch14:08
andreykurilin__let's give several more days to this release14:08
amaretskiythe most of work is done, I'm writing unit tests right now14:08
boris-42andreykurilin__: and we have like few more bugs with cleanups14:08
amaretskiythe patch set will be submitted soon (2 hours I believe)14:09
boris-42andreykurilin__: default security groups are not deleted14:09
andreykurilin__btw, it will be 0.4.0.14:09
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rvasiletsAnd bug in load chart that I work on14:09
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andreykurilin__we have too many bugs :(14:09
andreykurilin__it is sad14:09
boris-42andreykurilin__: so we need to address them14:09
andreykurilin__should we schedule release for only bug-fixes?14:09
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boris-42andreykurilin__:   ^ not sure14:10
boris-42stpierre: ^14:10
boris-42stpierre: I think we need to start work on services14:10
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rvasiletsAgree14:10
boris-42which means not a bug-fixes only release14:10
rvasiletsWe have too much patches for the last time about wrappers)14:10
stpierreyou think we can get that into this release?14:10
andreykurilin__stpierre: services - no14:11
rvasiletsWe spend on them too much unneeded efforts14:11
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andreykurilin__probably in next release14:11
stpierreandreykurilin__++14:11
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boris-42stpierre: so next release should be tomorrow14:12
boris-42stpierre: so no services14:12
boris-42stpierre: however we can introduce them and replace current wrappers14:12
boris-42stpierre: for the next release in 2 weeks14:12
andreykurilin__so what about make the next release after base service implementation merged only for bug fixes? also it means that we will able to work on porting utils/wrapers to new services, since them contain a lot of bugs14:13
stpierrethat's wildly, incredibly optimistic14:13
stpierrei think we should shoot for having the keystone service implemented for the next release14:13
boris-42stpierre: +114:13
boris-42stpierre: so let's put some effort on services for next 2 weeks14:13
andreykurilin__+114:13
amaretskiy+114:14
boris-42so they will got highest priority14:14
boris-42and we will review them like a crazy14:14
rvasiletssyre14:15
rvasilets*sure14:15
andreykurilin__btw, we can ask breton to help with it, since he is interested with Keystone and Rally :)14:15
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boris-42andreykurilin__: he is ill as far as I know14:15
andreykurilin__:(14:15
boris-42andreykurilin__: so let's just do the basis for service and move wrappers we will call him a bit later14:15
andreykurilin__ok ok14:15
boris-42andreykurilin__: so what about bug related to the fact that security groups are not deleted14:16
andreykurilin__I don't know14:16
andreykurilin__let's change the topic14:16
boris-42andreykurilin__: we have hack in users context that deletes them and it doesn't work =(14:16
andreykurilin__#topic bug related to the fact that "default" security groups are not deleted14:16
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andreykurilin__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296402/14:17
boris-42https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/openstack/context/keystone/users.py#L132-L13914:17
andreykurilin__proposed fix ^14:17
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boris-42andreykurilin__: actually this is not a fix14:17
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boris-42andreykurilin__: so yep it will reduce amount of traces in gates14:17
boris-42andreykurilin__: however we will still have a bunch of not deleted default security groups14:18
boris-42andreykurilin__: that should be deleted by this code https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/openstack/context/keystone/users.py#L132-L13914:18
stpierrewe only have one that doesn't get deleted14:18
stpierreand rally doesn't even create it14:18
stpierreit's for the 'service' tenant14:18
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stpierrei don't understand why it's in the osresources report14:18
stpierrebut rally seems to working correctly, despite all of the tracebacks14:18
boris-42stpierre: so "default" security group is created automatically by neutron14:19
boris-42stpierre: when you are booting first vm14:19
stpierrethat's what i was wondering. although i still don't know why a vm boots in the 'service' tenant14:20
smurkeJust wanted to jump in wanted some feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296022/ i have added gnocchi client and as it requires keystoneauth. Keystoneauth has ability to load version-agnostic plugin14:20
smurkeso maybe we can use keystoneauth (instead of keystoneclient v3)14:20
boris-42stpierre: so that's standard behavior for nova/neutron14:21
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boris-42stpierre: so we need to do hacks to cleanup that14:21
stpierreyeah, so that makes sense14:21
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andreykurilin__smurke: lets discuss your topic after we finish this one:014:21
stpierrei'm not sure we do, though. why is something getting booted in the 'service' tenant at all?14:21
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boris-42stpierre: it's strange I do not know anything..14:21
smurkeandreykurilin__ : sure, thanx!14:21
andreykurilin__stpierre: are you sure that non-deleted sg are from "service" tenant?14:22
stpierreyep14:22
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stpierreosresources.py tells you the tenant id, and you can cross-reference that with the devstack logs14:22
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boris-42stpierre: could you point to logs?14:22
andreykurilin__stpierre: but sometimes it have too much non-deleted sg14:22
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andreykurilin__stpierre: for example http://logs.openstack.org/19/299919/4/check/gate-rally-dsvm-rally-nova/923db30/rally-plot/resources_diff.txt.gz14:23
stpierrenova 'default' secgroups cannot be deleted14:23
stpierrefull stop, end of story, that's it14:23
andreykurilin__oh14:23
stpierreyeah :(14:23
boris-42stpierre: but in neutron you can do that14:23
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stpierreyes, we should clean up neutron secgroups, but with nova we just have to grin and bear it14:23
boris-42stpierre: +114:24
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boris-42stpierre: so I will ask today kevinbenton about that14:24
boris-42stpierre: maybe he knows something that we don't know14:24
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stpierrei'll try to find the logs that i looked at earlier14:24
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boris-42stpierre: let's move to next topic for now?14:24
stpierre+114:24
rvasilets+14:24
boris-42andreykurilin__: ^14:24
andreykurilin__ok14:24
andreykurilin__#topic gnocchi integration with rally14:25
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andreykurilin__:)14:25
andreykurilin__#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296022/14:25
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boris-42so I am not big expert of 1000 ways to init keystone client14:25
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andreykurilin__boris-42: all our code fore keystoncelinet uses deprecated methods14:26
andreykurilin__lol14:26
andreykurilin__*keystoneclient14:26
smurkejust wanted feedback on the patch. also i have added keystoneauth loader plugin which get version-agnostic plugin14:26
boris-42oldfag=)14:26
andreykurilin__heh14:27
boris-42smurke: we will take a look and test it14:27
andreykurilin__so I'm +2 for all new _get_keystoneauth_session method14:27
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smurkesure thanx boris-4214:27
andreykurilin__but it should replace old _get_session14:27
boris-42smurke: btw what about gnocchi dsvm job?14:27
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smurkeboris-42 : do you mean the benchmarking scenarios ?14:28
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smurkei am in process of adding scenarios for it.14:28
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andreykurilin__smurke: boris-42 is talking about a separate job for gnocchi which will run gnocchi sceanrios14:29
redixinwe need a working scenarios first, right?14:29
redixinnew keystoneauth -> gnocchi client -> gnocchi scenario -> rally-gnocchi-dsvm-job14:30
smurkeonce i have running scenarios i can look into the rally gates job14:30
boris-42smurke: so I mean dsvm job14:30
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andreykurilin__redixin: agreed14:30
boris-42redixin: so I think these are parallel tasks14:31
boris-42redixin: you can start adding job even now14:31
boris-42redixin: so it will test the code of new patch and help us not merge non working code14:31
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redixinokay14:31
boris-42I have to sleep14:31
boris-42to tired14:32
redixingoodnight =)14:32
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smurkeboris-42: gntc :)14:32
rvasiletsbye)14:32
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redixinis there a bug at launchpad about deprecated keystone usage in rally.osclients?14:33
andreykurilin__redixin: no14:33
andreykurilin__redixin: but I can create it14:34
redixinwe need someone to assing14:34
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rvasiletsthere is the same problem with ading senlin14:34
rvasiletshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/298109/14:34
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rvasiletsI mean the sequence of action)14:34
andreykurilin__redixin: smurke's patch fixes a big part of deprecated methods14:35
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redixinwe can merge it first, and then fix the rest14:36
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andreykurilin__sure14:36
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redixinso we will use keystone in correct way soon14:37
andreykurilin__smurke: Can you split your patch to two? So first one will be about keystoneauth and second one - support of gnocchiclient14:37
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andreykurilin__anything else to discuss?14:40
smurkeandreykurilin__ : its already a small patch :P14:40
redixinsmurke: do you want to help us with fixing all the clients? Like make the first patch not only for keystone+gnocchi, but keystone+everyting?14:40
redixinor we can merge it as is and ask someone else to fix the rest14:40
rvasiletsI can help with it later possibly14:41
smurkeredixin: may be we can merge and then work on fixing it14:41
rvasiletsok14:43
rvasiletsit sounds good for me14:43
rvasiletsfirst keystone+gnocchi, other later14:44
andreykurilin__noce14:44
andreykurilin__nice14:44
rvasiletsMove next?14:45
smurkeyup, sounds good14:45
andreykurilin__do we have next topic?)14:45
rvasiletsнуы14:46
rvasiletsyep14:46
rvasiletsOne more from me14:46
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rvasiletsadding SenLin to Rally14:46
rvasilets#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298109/14:47
rvasiletsHow we will work on it? client, scenario, dsvm job?14:47
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andreykurilin__rvasilets: it sounds the same as for gnocchi. base part we can merge without new job14:48
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rvasiletsShould it be experimental?14:48
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andreykurilin__we should talk with senlin cores and discuss our plans about integaration14:49
rvasiletsokey14:49
andreykurilin__rvasilets: but, imo, we should not use experimental jobs at all14:50
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andreykurilin__it is better to configure normal jobs with rules to launch them14:50
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rvasiletsat Rally gates?)14:51
andreykurilin__yes14:51
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rvasiletsfor every project separate job)14:51
rvasiletsokey)14:51
rvasiletsI will talk to senlin guys14:52
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andreykurilin__rvasilets: I mean that we can do as same as for only doc and unittests related changes - we don't run dsvm jobs for them. so we can configure new "senlin" job which will be launched only if senlin folder are modified14:52
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andreykurilin__anything else?14:54
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rvasiletsOkey lets discuss it later14:54
andreykurilin__lets finish14:55
andreykurilin__#endmeeting14:55
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lennyb#startmeeting third-party15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  4 15:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lennyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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lennybHello15:00
anteayahello lennyb15:00
anteayathanks for chairing the meeting15:00
lennybanteaya: hi15:00
anteayaI had to cancel my vacation so I'm around15:00
anteayabut do proceed15:00
lennybhow are you?15:00
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anteayagood thanks15:01
anteayalooking forward to actually taking a vacation the next time15:01
anteayahow are you?15:01
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mmedvedehi everyone15:01
lennybI am ok, thanks and good luck next time15:01
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anteayathank you15:01
anteayahi mmedvede15:01
lennybdoes any of you something to discuss?15:02
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asselinhi15:02
anteayaI do not have anything to discuss today15:02
anteayahi asselin15:02
lennybasselin: hi15:02
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lennybI have a question. looks like our CI is posting empty comments on 'rebase' #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26654015:03
lennybany suggestion why and how this can be 'removed'15:03
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asselinlennyb, which one is your ci?'15:04
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lennybmellanox ci, look for the last comment15:04
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anteayawell rebase and recheck both start wtih re15:05
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anteayawhat is your regex to match recheck?15:05
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asselincan you paste your zuul layout.yaml for the pipeline?15:05
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lennyb#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/492885/15:06
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lennybwe had similar issue, when no job was triggered due to filtering. This was 'fixed' in zuul by eantishev commit ( if I recall correctly )15:07
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anteayayour system posted Build succeeded. which I don't see in the paste provided15:09
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asselinthat might be the default when none is provided15:09
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anteayaI wondered if that was the case15:10
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lennybanteaya: I agree with asselin, it looks like default value15:12
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anteayaso on rebase do you want it to run tests, and it isn't running tests?15:12
anteayathat appears to be what you want, yes?15:13
anteayaor what do you want to do on rebase?15:13
lennybanteaya: rebase does not change code, so I do not want to run tests.15:13
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anteayaokay so when it rebases, it shouldn't test and it shouldn't comment for your system15:13
lennybI can add trigger event for rebase and run tests, but I dont see any point to do it15:14
anteayaso it isn't running tests, but why is it commenting?15:14
asselinno, a rebase is effectively a new patch set15:14
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lennybasselin: if rebase is actually a new patch set, then I should add event to be triggered and run tests.15:15
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lennybanteaya: exactly my question - my it's commenting if it was not running15:15
anteayawell asselin does offer a good point15:16
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anteayawould you consider testing rebases?15:16
lennybanteaya: I will update my CI. Issue is closed :)15:17
anteayathank you for bringing up the topic for conversation15:17
lennybAny other topics?15:17
anteayaI don't have anything I wish to discuss today15:17
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lennybI have another one.15:18
* lennyb pasting code15:19
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lennyb#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/492889/15:20
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lennybI have 2 pipelines that should trigger 2 jobs. But it looks like the second one posts a 'recheck' comment for CI.15:21
lennybwhat is a better way to implement it?15:21
asselin?? why does the 2nd one post a recheck comment?15:21
lennybi dont know yet. 1sec, I will find a comment15:22
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mmedvedelennyb: I wonder why you have 2 pipelines. 1 pipelines should normally be enough15:23
mmedvedeor you have different recheck comments for each15:24
lennybmmedvede: one pipeline works great, I just did not want to trigger both jobs15:24
lennybmmedvede: yeap, different recheck comments15:25
asselinthat's  good point, 2 pipeline would lead to 2 comments per patch set, which isn't allowed (last I checked)15:25
anteayait isnt' allowed15:25
anteayayou are correct15:25
lennybasselin: so it's 'by design'. ok I will use 1 pipeline15:25
lennybthanks15:25
mmedvedelennyb: yes, makes sense to have different pipelines if you have to have different settings for both. But if you only want conditionally trigger a job depending on project, that can be done on the job level15:26
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asselinlennyb, you could leave the 2nd pipeline and only include the recheck comment option15:26
asselini.e. delete lines 9 & 10 from here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/492885/15:26
mmedvederight, so I missed that it would give two comments on the patch :)15:26
lennybasselin, mmedvede: thanks.15:27
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asselinand make sure your other pipeline doesn't repond...i.e. make them mutually exclusive15:27
asselinbut one pipeline is simpler (by design)15:27
lennybIssue is closed. thanks.15:28
anteayathank you15:28
lennybAny other issues?15:28
anteayalennyb: do share your results after your changes15:28
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lennybanteaya: it's working. I moved to 1 pipe line as workaround and I will leave it15:29
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lennybIf there are no other topics I will close the meeting. Any objections?15:30
anteayaI do not object15:30
anteayathanks for chairing lennyb15:31
lennybanteaya, asselin, mmedvede: thanks for being here. See you next time15:31
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mmedvedethanks lennyb15:31
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lennybanteaya: do you need me tomorrow? I can chair as well, it's a day time here :)15:32
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anteayalennyb: yes, that would be lovely thank you15:33
anteayabeen up all night for 4 days15:33
anteayaif I am awake I will join you15:34
lennybanteaya: sure, np.15:34
lennyb#endmeeting15:34
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anteayalennyb: thank you again15:34
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rakhmerov#startmeeting Mistral16:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  4 16:01:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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akuznetsovahi there16:01
hparekh_hi16:02
rakhmerovhi!16:02
rakhmerovhow are you guys?16:02
toddjohnhi16:02
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rakhmerovtoddjohn: hi16:02
hparekh_Great ! How are you rakhmerov ?16:02
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NikolayMhi everyone!16:02
rakhmerovI'm ok16:02
rakhmerovstill alive )16:02
rakhmerovhey16:03
rakhmerovok, let's start16:03
rakhmerov#topic Review Action Items16:03
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rakhmerovone action item was on me16:04
rakhmerov1. akhmerov: propose time slots for 2 different meetings (for 2 groups of people from completely different time zones)16:04
rakhmerovit's done16:04
rakhmerovI sent out an email today with proposed time slots16:05
rakhmerovmost likely we'll make it bi-weekly16:05
rakhmerovso please reply to that email with your thoughts and ideas16:05
akuznetsovaok16:05
rakhmerovthe topic is [openstack-dev] [mistral] Bi-weekly team meetings16:06
rakhmerovnext topic16:06
rakhmerov#topic Current Status (by team members)16:06
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rakhmerovmy status: sent a number of patches to fix various problems related to transactions and locks16:06
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rakhmerovspecifically, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/152447716:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1524477 in Mistral "After-task logic runs multiple times if tasks run in parallel" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Renat Akhmerov (rakhmerov)16:07
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hparekh_my status: I will resume my work on mistral-items-filtering blueprint.16:07
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rakhmerovI fully investigated it, reproduced locally and fixed16:07
rakhmerovhparekh_: ok, are there any roadblocks with that?16:08
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hparekh_rakhmerov, No16:08
rakhmerovok16:09
hparekh_rakhmerov, I was busy with some other stuff. :)16:09
rakhmerovok, understood16:09
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akuznetsovamy status: just track new commits and review them16:10
rakhmerovok16:10
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rakhmerovakuznetsova: could you please remind what has been done on HA gate so far?16:10
rakhmerovas far as I remember you created scripts for managing individual Mistral processes16:11
rakhmerovis this part completed?16:11
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akuznetsovarakhmerov, I've just added an ability to run mistral services in a separate processes and I was working on base for HA tests, I did't send it on review yet16:12
rakhmerovakuznetsova: ok16:13
rakhmerovthanks16:13
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akuznetsovanow api/engine/executor can be run in separate processes or all-in-one, user can manage this16:14
rakhmerovI see16:15
rakhmerovok16:15
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rakhmerovlet's keep in touch on this16:15
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rakhmerovbtw, Mitaka RC2 has been made16:17
rakhmerovToday or tomorrow the final Mitaka version should be released16:17
rakhmerovok, anything else on this part?16:17
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rakhmerovNikolayM: Nikolay, had a chance to work on something?16:18
NikolayMno, I just reviewed a few commits16:18
rakhmerovщл16:18
rakhmerovok16:18
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rakhmerov#topic Open discussion16:19
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toddjohnHi...i have one small item to bring up16:19
rakhmerovtoddjohn: go ahead16:19
toddjohnJust wanted to let you all know we have a summit presentation that's been accepted: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7102?goback=116:20
toddjohnon Mistral16:20
rakhmerovyeah, I saw16:20
toddjohnNo action to be taken, just wanted to make you aware of it16:20
rakhmerovthat's cool16:20
toddjohncool16:21
akuznetsovanice!16:21
rakhmerovyep, thank you16:21
toddjohnyeah, it's working really well16:21
toddjohnthanks16:21
rakhmerovI'm currently trying very hard to get my US visa16:21
rakhmerovif that's successfull, I'll be there16:21
toddjohncool16:21
rakhmerovyep16:21
toddjohnthat's all i had16:22
rakhmerovthere's also another presentation that's just called "Mistral - Task Management Service"16:22
rakhmerovhparekh_ is a presenter and I'm a co-speaker16:22
toddjohncool!16:22
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rakhmerovas far as I understand hparekh_ can't go16:22
hparekh_rakhmerov, YEAH :(16:22
rakhmerovbut I may go16:22
rakhmerovhopefully I'll be able to make it )16:23
rakhmerovif that happens please welcome to that talk too16:23
toddjohnUnfortunately i can't go either but a colleague of mine will be going to give the talk16:23
rakhmerovI see16:23
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rakhmerovbtw, toddjohn, do you have anything shared on your topic publicly?16:23
rakhmerovgithub or any other source16:24
toddjohnNot at the moment.16:24
rakhmerovI mean your vision on how to handle those notifications and run Mistral workflows16:24
rakhmerovooh, ok16:24
toddjohnwe have the blueprint of course16:24
rakhmerovI'd love to see what you guys think on that16:24
rakhmerovhm... which one?16:24
rakhmerovcan you give a link? I may have missed it16:25
toddjohnand i'll be pushing up a spec hopefully by the end of the week16:25
toddjohnlet me get it16:25
toddjohnone min16:25
rakhmerovsure16:25
rakhmerovwe discussed back in Tokyo the approximate design for similar thing but never got to implementing it16:25
toddjohnhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/event-notification-trigger16:26
rakhmerovso I'm wondering if we're on the same page16:26
toddjohni'll try to get the spec up there later this week16:26
rakhmerovok, cool16:26
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toddjohnso you can see in more detail16:26
toddjohnwhat we have in mind16:26
rakhmerovI'll have a look at the BP and leave my comments16:26
toddjohnSure, cool16:27
rakhmerov#action look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/event-notification-trigger and leave comments16:27
rakhmerov#action rakhmerov: look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/event-notification-trigger and leave comments16:27
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rakhmerovok, I don't have anything else for now16:28
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rakhmerovjust a small announcement: I just joined a new company where I'm supposed to be focusing on Mistral 90% of my time16:29
toddjohncool! Congrats!16:29
rakhmerovit should help move project further16:29
rakhmerovyeah, thanks )16:29
hparekh_Congratulations !!!!16:29
rakhmerov:)16:29
rakhmerovok, and hopefully we'll be having more people on our meetings once we adjust time slots16:30
rakhmerov:)16:30
rakhmerovalright, if that's all we have we can shut down the meeting16:31
rakhmerovcounting to 1016:31
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rakhmerovthanks guys! Bye16:31
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hparekh_bye ! Thanks16:31
rakhmerov#endmeeting16:31
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matjazphi all17:00
matjazp#startmeeting training-guides17:00
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matjazproll call17:00
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matjazp#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda17:01
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ianychoiHello17:01
matjazphey ianychoi17:01
matjazphow are you?17:02
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ianychoiFine, but busy on my own job stuff..17:02
ianychoiHow about you?17:02
matjazpsame :)17:02
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matjazp#topic review of last meeting action items17:03
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matjazpI talked with Marton Kiss, he's leading Austin Upstream training17:03
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ianychoiOh, I see.17:04
ianychoiI cannot attend upcoming Upstream training..17:04
matjazpyes, looks like Tim's busy and Marton stepped in instead17:04
ianychoiYep, I see :)17:05
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matjazpianychoi: but you're going to the Summit, right?17:05
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ianychoiYep, but I am able to stay only Thursday and Friday.17:06
ianychoiI do not have enough time to stay there, but I have found a cheapest ticket17:06
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matjazpwill you be able to attend some of the Doc's meetings?17:06
matjazpat the Design summit17:06
ianychoiMay be Friday afternoon?17:07
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matjazpsure, Friday's are the best... just a meetup :)17:07
ianychoiI have seen several Docs meetings and there is a Docs meeting on Friday afternoon17:07
matjazpit's nice to connect nicks and faces17:07
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matjazpanyway, lets start17:08
matjazp#topic upstream training17:08
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ianychoiOkay, thanks :)17:08
matjazp#info Marton Kiss, an Austin Upstream training team lead, is by function a new core reviewer17:09
ianychoiCongrat :)17:09
matjazp#info Marton Kiss replaces Tim Freund17:09
ianychoiI have seen that Mike commited several patches on some more preparations.17:10
matjazpI already made an announcement on the Docs ML17:10
ianychoiI think Mike will be one of trainers or assistants on Austin upstream training.17:10
matjazpyes, I believe so17:10
ianychoiYep, I have read :)17:10
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matjazpanything else here?17:11
matjazpoh.. I cleaned tox.ini, but you already know that since you reviewd the patch17:11
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ianychoi:)17:12
matjazp#topic training guides17:12
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ianychoiIs there something to be fixed on upstream training materials you think?17:12
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matjazpnot that I'm aware of17:12
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matjazpwe could update screenshots, but it is not essential17:13
ianychoiOkay I see17:13
ianychoiThen, for training guides..17:14
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ianychoiMy progress is a little bit slow.17:14
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matjazpno news from me too17:14
ianychoiI think I can proceed more from the next week :)17:14
matjazpexcelent :)17:15
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matjazpI hope the same... I'm working on the CLI17:15
matjazpchapter17:15
ianychoiYep, cool!17:15
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matjazpanything else here?17:16
ianychoiNope from me17:16
matjazpok, moving on17:17
matjazp#topic aob17:17
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matjazpanything else to discuss?17:17
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ianychoiHmm.. just one thing17:19
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ianychoibut I think I can find the problem17:19
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matjazpoh, btw, did you see the training guides release notes for Mitaka? Did I missed anything important?17:19
matjazpwhat is the problem?17:20
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ianychoiWhere can I see the release note for Mitaka? I am not aware on it.17:20
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matjazp#link http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/openstack-manuals/17:22
ianychoi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251180/2/tools/buildlang.sh17:22
ianychoiI have found that some htmls are included as translation targets :)17:22
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ianychoiMaybe I need to change translation related scripts like your last commit on tox.ini..17:23
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matjazpianychoi: sure, just submit a patch17:23
ianychoiWow, great, matjazp !17:23
ianychoiYep, I will do it :)17:23
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matjazpdid I miss anything? ITs still time to add if I did17:23
ianychoiI do not think so17:24
ianychoiThank you also today, matjazp :)17:24
matjazpI also reported 3 translations for the upstream training17:24
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ianychoiYep :)17:25
matjazpI don't know if Translation team has separate relesase notes, but extra exposure can't hurt :)17:25
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ianychoiThat's okay. I think it is good to include translation efforts on each project.17:26
ianychoiI18n aims to focus on translations on release notes itself :)17:27
matjazpanything else left to discuss?17:28
ianychoiNope from me17:28
matjazpok, lets wrap it up then17:28
matjazpthanks for your effort, ianychoi!17:29
ianychoiThanks, matjazp !17:29
matjazpbye, see you in 2 weeks...17:29
ianychoiYep :) see you then!17:29
matjazpbye17:29
matjazp#endmeeting17:29
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adam_g#startmeeting astara17:59
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markmcclaino/18:01
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adam_ghey guys18:02
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adam_g#topic mitaka development18:02
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adam_gmitaka is done. stable/mitaka branches are open and we should be in shape to release this week.18:02
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adam_gi just need to cut a final rc3 that contains no real changes, just to pull in some infra changes that were made on friday18:03
markmcclaincool18:03
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adam_g#topic newton summit18:04
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adam_gmarkmcclain, did you say our fishbowl has been rescheduled?18:04
markmcclainyes... we are now first thing on Thursday18:05
adam_gcool18:05
markmcclain#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090833.html18:06
adam_g#info newton design summit: astara fishbowl session 9AM thurdsay and contributors meetup all day friday18:06
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elothe tutorial session is on Wednesday late afternoon 4:30-618:07
adam_goh, right18:08
adam_g#info astara hands-on tutorial wednesday 4:30PM18:08
adam_g#topic open discussion18:09
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adam_gelo, did you make any progress on triaging that horizon issue you were seeing? i just spun up a test of stable/mitaka and everything looked fine.18:09
elosort of - something is wrong with that system18:10
eloI've spun up several more systems and they are fine..18:10
elothis one is different as everything is from src with virtualenv18:10
markmcclainhmmm... do you have the git hashes to compare?18:11
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markmcclainor are we checking specific tags?18:11
adam_ghuh strange18:11
eloIt is still live so I can get the hashes - it's most likely my error18:12
adam_gok18:13
adam_gwell, if you find out its not feel free to file a bug18:13
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adam_gunless theres'a anything else we can call it18:14
adam_gshould have the mitaka release out before the end of week, thanks to all who contributed18:14
* markmcclain is super excited for this release18:14
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adam_gsame here :)18:16
adam_gokay talk to you all in #openstack-astara18:16
adam_g#endmeeting18:16
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* mestery yawns and stretches, looks around, and waits patiently20:56
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dasmmestery: tick. tock20:56
mesterydasm: Yikes20:57
armaxmestery: you just waking up?20:57
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mesteryarmax: I was having the most blissful dream :)20:57
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dasmmestery: and you woke up into openstack?20:57
mesterydasm: Scary, right?20:57
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dasmindeed.20:57
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salv-orlandoaloha20:59
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yamamotohi21:00
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armax#startmeeting networking21:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Apr  4 21:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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sc68calo/21:01
ajmillerhi21:01
armaxhi folks21:01
bloganhi21:01
armax#t21:01
armax#topic announcements21:01
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armax#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Announcements_.2F_Reminders21:01
armaxWe had a new RC last week21:01
hoangcxhi21:01
armax#link http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/index.html#mitaka-neutron21:01
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armaxwe were hoping to include a few more translations, but we ended up having a handful of minor fixes21:02
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armaxat this point this is 99.999% going to be our Mitaka release21:02
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SukhdevHi - sorry joining late21:02
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mesteryBad Sukhdev21:03
mestery:)21:03
Swamihi21:03
Sukhdevmestery : thats me :-)21:03
mesterylol21:03
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* armax waits for a few more people to join the party21:03
kevinbentonhi21:03
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john-davidgehi all21:04
ZZelle_Avé!21:04
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Sukhdevmestery: Oh shit - so, I was not late after all -21:04
mesteryrofl21:04
Sukhdevmestery : every body is waking up late today :-)21:04
mesteryindeed21:04
rtheiso/21:04
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ihrachyswell, some people are about to fall asleep if the meeting does not continue... :)21:05
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armaxah, ok so we’re all here then21:05
salv-orlandoihrachys: are you questioning the authority of our dear PTL21:05
* armax resumes21:05
* salv-orlando readies room 10121:05
ihrachyssalv-orlando: lol. no I question timezones.21:06
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armaxwe had our RC3 last week21:06
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armaxwhich is going to be our final Mitaka release21:06
salv-orlandoihrachys: don't worry in a few billion years the earth will be pretty much still21:06
armaxso kudos to everyone that made that happen21:06
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armaxdespite the difficulties21:07
armaxand the flying -2s21:07
dasm;)21:07
armaxwe’re in Newton mode for a while21:07
ihrachysoh the irony21:07
armaxso this week I’d like to go quickly over the agenda and focus on the first milestone21:08
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armaxto make sure we’re ready to roll21:08
armaxihrachys: irony wasn’t directed at you :P21:08
Sukhdevnewton neutron repeate few time back to back :-)21:08
ihrachysarmax: I feel it with my burning skin21:08
armaxsince we’re in Neutron mode, make sure you’re aware to bump your pending specs21:09
armax#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-specs,n,z21:09
armaxif you have any21:09
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armaxand if not please remind, reach out to folks who do and you work with21:09
* HenryG sneaks in late21:09
armaxHenryG: sorry, you’re too late21:10
Sukhdevmestery : HenryG is Bad21:10
armaxget out21:10
mesteryHe's really bad Sukhdev21:10
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mesteryarmax: Now now, be nice.21:10
mestery:)21:10
armax10 mins!21:10
armaxcome on, outrageous21:10
HenryGThe roads are all snowed up!21:10
armaxyeah right21:10
salv-orlandothe community expects higher standards from you HenryG21:10
armaxok21:11
armaxthe summit is 3 weeks from now21:11
armaxa few etherpads to be aware21:11
armax#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-summit-ideas21:11
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armaxyour canvas to draw pretty pictures21:11
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armaxa draft schedule will be announced in the next day or two collecting some of those ideas21:12
armaxfor those that fail to meet the timebox for the summit21:12
armaxfeel free to file RFE’s21:13
armaxfor those of you who are interested in cross-project initiatives21:13
armaxcheck out21:13
armax#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cross-project-sessions21:13
armaxfor those of you who have Nova amongst the projects you care about21:13
armaxcheck out21:13
armax#link v21:13
Sukhdevarmax : there is a broader Ironic/neutron session there -21:13
armax#undo21:13
armax#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking21:13
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armaxas for Nova in particular21:13
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armaxright now the Nova team is in backlog mode21:13
Sukhdevarmax : however, I have proposed a focused session for VLAN aware servers (VMS + BMS) in neutron side - not to confuse them21:13
armaxmeaning they are only vetting stuff that fell the Mitaka wagon21:13
armaxSukhdev: ack21:14
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armaxso Mitaka approved specs are repurposed from now until the Summit21:16
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armaxfor new Nova specs, they will be reviewed after the summit21:16
armaxdeadlines for the Nova release cycle will be announced after the summit21:16
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armaxso if you do have cross-projects issues that affect both Nova and Neutron21:16
armaxbe aware21:16
armaxof these points21:16
* carl_baldwin is now aware21:16
armaxlet’s move quickly to bugs and then we go back to milestone planning21:16
armax#topic Bugs21:16
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armaxbugs are already ramping up21:16
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armaxwe had about ~100 already filed and only a third got closed21:16
armaxso far21:16
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armaxthough the bug deputy rotation is helpful, we should all try and chip in to make sure a) we merge less buggy code b) we take ownership of issues being filed post-merge21:17
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armaxthis week’s deputy is amotoki21:18
armaxanyone willing to have a go for future weeks?21:18
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blogani would21:18
armax#action blogan deputy for the week of Apr 1121:18
carl_baldwinI'm probably due for another week but would prefer after summit.21:19
bloganthanks21:19
haleybi can do post-summit too21:19
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armaxblogan, carl_baldwin, haleyb: thanks21:19
armaxnoted21:19
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armaxlooking at the state of our CI21:19
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armaxthings are ok-ish in the gate, we had a temporary lapse of a reason last Friday21:20
* john-davidge would also like to bug-deputy after the summit21:20
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armaxbut overall the success rate is >98%21:20
armaxjohn-davidge: ack21:20
ihrachysarmax: time to make some jobs voting? ;)21:20
armaxI’d invite to you check out grafana regularly21:20
armaxihrachys: not so fast21:21
armaxhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=4&fullscreen21:21
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ihrachys#sadpanda21:21
kevinbentoni find that graph upsetting because it includes patches that themselves cause failures21:21
sc68cal^ this21:21
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armaxkevinbenton: thought that’s true for the check queue21:21
armaxnot for the link I provided above21:21
armaxfor instance this one21:22
armax#link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=5&fullscreen21:22
kevinbentonah, cool21:22
armaxis failure rate on the check queue for jobs like api, functional and fullstack21:22
kevinbentonyeah21:22
armaxthough it’s true that check queue contains self-inflicted errors21:22
armaxthis clearly shows taht functional and fullstack jobs are still unstable21:22
armaxtheir failure rates is hovering over the 40% mark21:22
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armaxand knowing that the api job is in the gate queue at it’s <10% failure rate in teh check queue21:23
kevinbentonbut i don't understand how we can be sure when it includes self-inflicted errors21:23
HenryGWhat about the PG job? Can we make it voting?21:23
armaxI can only infer there are still pending issues21:23
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armaxHenryG: the PG job is at 30%21:24
kevinbentoncan we get a periodic of fullstack, functional, and api?21:24
armaxhttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=6&fullscreen21:24
kevinbentonagainst master21:24
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armaxgrenade multi is at <10% so sc68cal perhaps we should fire this one up and brace for impact21:24
sc68cal:) :) :)21:24
armaxsc68cal: remind me the link offline please21:24
ihrachysamen to that ^ :)21:24
njohnsto_+121:24
sc68calindeed, and on that topic, should we look into replacing single node grenade jobs with the multinode, in the future when it's reliable?21:25
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sc68calto keep our total # of jobs reasonable21:25
ihrachyssc68cal: singlenode is in integrated gate21:25
armaxkevinbenton: I don’t see the point, they should be made voting and applied to the gate queue once we’re happy with them21:25
kevinbentonarmax: how will we know when they're stable enough?21:26
armaxI know that amuller worked with the rest of the team to ensure functional and fullstack are in line with the other failure rates, but we’re not quite there yet by the looks of things21:26
armaxthey would be comparable with the other gate jobs21:26
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armaxuntil they are, they are not stable21:26
ihrachysthere are patches in review that should get fullstack in better shape21:26
sc68calihrachys: right - but hasn't discussion happened in nova where they're trying to move off singlenode grenade? I'm a bit fuzzy and will have to chat with dansmith again at the summit21:27
kevinbentonsort of assumes that they have a similar sensitivity to breaking on a given change21:27
ihrachyssc68cal: I *think* that both stay for now. but yeah, if you set the goal, you should work on it in integrated gate jobs, not just dropping the job in neutron.21:27
armaxkevinbenton it’s a rule of thumb obviously21:27
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armaxif they are all within the same range21:28
armaxwe can assume that a change that breaks full, or api breaks others too21:28
armaxthough some breakages can be specific to a job21:28
sc68calihrachys: agreed21:29
armaxI would find hard to believe the massive gap we witness today is due to that21:29
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kevinbentoni think the API job is a lot less delicate than fullstack for example, since the API doesn't test actual dataplane connectivity or agent stuff21:29
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kevinbentonbut it's better than nothing21:29
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kevinbentonso nevermind21:29
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armaxlet’s move the discussion offline if need be21:30
armaxif there’s nothing else on bugs I’d like to move to blueprints21:30
armaxol21:31
armaxok21:31
armax#topic Blueprints21:31
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armax#link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/newton-121:31
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armaxthis is the current workload for Newton Neutron21:31
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armaxor Newtron for short21:32
armaxright now we have 13 blueprints targeted21:32
armaxblueprint fwaas-api-2.021:33
armax#link v21:33
armaxdamn it21:33
armax#undo21:33
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armax#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/fwaas-api-2.021:33
sc68caluh oh21:33
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armaxsc68cal, xgerman21:33
armaxso, care to give an update?21:33
armaxthe spec merged21:34
armaxit needs to be reproposed21:34
armaxfrom here21:34
armax#link v21:34
armaxoh come on21:34
armax#undo21:34
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armax#link https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs/tree/master/specs/backlog/mitaka21:34
johnsomhahaha21:34
armaxto21:35
* armax is careful this time21:35
Sukhdevarmax needs a cup of coffee21:35
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armax#link https://github.com/openstack/neutron-specs/tree/master/specs/newton21:35
armaxSukhdev: no, I need a new keyboard21:35
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sc68calOK, we'll do the papework and reach out to coordinate.21:35
sc68caltl;dr is resource constraints hit hard and the work is ongoing21:35
armaxsc68cal: I’d argue it should be the other way around21:35
sc68calarmax: ok sounds good, sorry21:36
armaxsc68cal: I mean, what’s the latest in terms of code development?21:36
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armaxsc68cal: this is clearly more than a two man job21:36
sc68callittle to report ;(21:36
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sc68calarmax: agreed - but that's the state of things as it is.21:37
armaxsc68cal: so if I go to https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas21:37
armaxI see this21:37
armax#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-fwaas+branch:master+topic:fwaas_v2_api21:37
armaxyou guys plan to resume work or should this be handed over to someone else interested?21:37
sc68calgood question. I do not have an answer at the present moment21:38
armaxsc68cal: ok, let’s aim to find the answer by end of the week?21:38
armaxas of today I see three options21:38
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armaxa) you continue working on this; b) someone else take over; c) we scrap this for good21:39
armaxhave I missed an option?21:39
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sc68calno that's it in a nutshell21:39
sc68caldoes anyone actually *care* about fwaas. At all21:39
armaxsc68cal: ok, let’s touch base later in the week21:39
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sc68calplenty of people love doing API design but boy does the crowd shrink when it comes time to do the hard part21:39
armaxand we’ll touch on this point too21:39
njohnsto_sc68cal: I and willing to help, but I need you to tell me what part to work on.21:40
armaxsc68cal: we should become like IEEE21:40
sc68calarmax: we aren't?! ;)21:40
armaxok, moving on for now :)21:40
armax#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/routed-networks21:40
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armaxcarl_baldwin, kevinbenton: I think this is somewhat in good shape though we perhaps have to shuffle some positions?21:41
carl_baldwinHi21:41
carl_baldwinshuffle some positions?21:41
armaxspec hasn’t merged yet btw21:41
armaxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/225384/21:41
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armaxI see kevinbenton as the approver, and you as assignee21:41
armaxI don’t think that’s accurate any longer, or is it?21:42
armaxme hears crickets21:42
carl_baldwinI think it is reasonably accurate unless Kevin is no longer going to be approver.21:42
kevinbentonyeah, i'm still planning on reviewing the patches21:42
carl_baldwinarmax: That was me hitting the backspace key because I can't type.21:43
carl_baldwinI'm still the primary assignee.21:43
armaxcarl_baldwin: any reason why21:43
armax#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/routed-networks21:43
armaxhasn’t hit the launcpad dashboard21:43
armaxah no never mind21:43
carl_baldwinNot sure, is that supposed to be automatic?21:43
armaxcarl_baldwin: no, it’s fine it’s me who’s blind21:44
armaxkevinbenton: do you have review bandwidth?21:44
carl_baldwinarmax: :)21:44
armaxI know blogan has also express an interest21:44
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kevinbentonif you want you can change it to blogan21:44
armaxI don’t want to21:44
armaxI am asking you21:44
kevinbentoni will still review the patches21:44
kevinbentonbut it might make sense if blogan has more time to dedicate specifically to it21:45
armaxI am a puppet21:45
carl_baldwinblogan was just talking to me about contributing to part of the development.21:45
armaxI do what I am told21:45
bloganyes to all lol21:45
carl_baldwinI think we should leave it as is for now.21:45
bloganill do whatever is asked, i too am a puppet21:45
ski2carl_baldwin: armax we actually have decent resources to work on this effort21:45
carl_baldwinkevinbenton can raise a flag if it is becoming too much.21:45
carl_baldwin... and I'll try to find other cores to pitch in.21:45
armaxok, but then it’s kevinbenton’s head on a stake if this fails21:45
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armaxkevinbenton: you sure?21:45
armax:)21:45
armaxwell, and carl_baldwin's21:46
blogani can coordinate with kevinbenton21:46
carl_baldwinski2: Come to our meeting on Tuesday mornings.21:46
ski2carl_baldwin: will do21:46
armaxski2: qualify yourself, please? Not sure I recognize the handle21:46
carl_baldwinI can also review patches submitted by others and I intend to.21:46
* kevinbenton hates that meeting time21:46
blogankevinbenton: ill buy you a 5 hour energy21:47
ski2brian stajkowski, manager of osic neutron development team here at rackspace21:47
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ski2armax: basically working with blogan21:47
armaxski2: nice, ok I recognize the name, welcome!21:47
ski2ty ty21:47
armaxok, so carl_baldwin, kevinbenton we have this under control then21:47
armaxmoving on21:47
mlavallearmax: I am also helping with routed networks21:48
armaxmlavalle: yup21:48
armaxmlavalle: good lad21:48
armax#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/multi-l3-backends21:48
armaxkevinbenton and armax are on the spotlight here21:48
kevinbentoni've been working on reproposing the spec to newton21:48
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armaxkevinbenton: sweet21:48
armaxkevinbenton: I am still happy to support you as much as you need to21:49
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armaxkevinbenton: just hit me with some new patchsets and/or code reviews and I am happy to -221:49
armaxerr, -121:49
kevinbentonsgtm21:49
armaxerr, +221:49
armaxerr, blocking -221:49
armaxoh well never mind21:49
armaxmoving on21:50
armaxbut before we do21:50
armaxanyone interested to join the l3 flavor party?21:50
armaxno? ok21:50
armax#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/push-notifications21:50
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kevinbentonthis being blocked by OVO is actually the biggest hurdle right now21:51
armaxkevinbenton, this has yet to find an approver, though this struggled to reach consensus last cycle21:51
ihrachysI can be an approver21:51
ihrachysI hope it won't take long to get pieces of it unblocked21:51
armaxkevinbenton: we should then coordinate on a plan of action21:52
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armaxihrachys: thanks for volunteering21:52
kevinbentonthe dhcp agent currently receives payloads21:52
armaxlet21:52
kevinbentonand doesn't depend on OVO21:52
kevinbentonso i think i will use it as a proof of concept21:53
armaxlet’s make sure we get the spec in a good shape too21:53
armaxkevinbenton: that sounds reasonable21:53
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ihrachysnot sure why dhcp agent is different, but I will need to read the spec first.21:53
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kevinbentonihrachys: dhcp agent already receives a push notification of sorts21:53
kevinbentonihrachys: so it's exposed to a race condition21:53
ihrachysok, you talk about race for now. ok.21:54
armaxkevinbenton: of anyone who reviewed the spec, do you think of anyone who could help code-wise?21:54
kevinbentonso there won't be a significant amount of code from what i can tell21:54
armaxI suppose not21:54
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armaxok, cool21:54
armaxmoving on21:54
armax#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms21:55
armaxrossella_s: udere?21:55
carl_baldwinI looked at this one a little bit late last week.  It appears to me luke warm.21:55
carl_baldwin... at best.21:55
carl_baldwinI sent rossella_s a note about it.21:55
carl_baldwinShe replied that bence may not have time to work on it.21:56
armaxcarl_baldwin: ok, keep in the loop too if you like21:56
* armax is shocked21:56
carl_baldwinI don't have much bandwidth to devote to it but I'll get involved as much as I can.21:56
carl_baldwinIt'd be nice to wrap it up finally.21:56
Sukhdevcan we find a new owner for this?21:57
armaxSukhdev: I think we should21:57
carl_baldwin++21:57
SukhdevIronic folks really need this -21:57
armaxthough beagles is the owner of some patches21:57
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Sukhdevthere is lots of work going on in Ironic on this - and I am holding them off pending this BP21:57
armaxSukhdev: ack21:58
kevinbentonwe may have to detach the OVS implementation from teh API21:58
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kevinbentoni think we are all in agreement generally on the API at this point21:58
Sukhdevkevinbenton : that is a good idea21:58
kevinbentonOVN has an implementation ready21:58
armaxkevinbenton: that was always my goal21:58
armaxkevinbenton: though I either didn’t advertise it loud enough or fell on deaf ears21:59
kevinbentonbecause i think it should be relatively easy for a contributor to implement the API21:59
armaxok, we’ll continue from here next week21:59
armaxwe have those patches already in the gerrit queue21:59
armaxbtw21:59
kevinbentonfinding someone with the expertise to gut the OVS ref implementation to do this will be the hard part21:59
armaxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/vlan-aware-vms21:59
armax#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/vlan-aware-vms22:00
carl_baldwinkevinbenton: ++  Let's do that.22:00
ihrachys00:0022:00
ihrachys(my time)22:00
carl_baldwin... split them and work on finding someone for the OVS.22:00
armax#endmeeting22:00
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