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| raildo | hi hmt folks :) | 16:02 |
| ericksonsantos | \o | 16:03 |
| vilobhmm | hello | 16:03 |
| raildo | #startmeeting hierarchical-multitenancy | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 24 16:03:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is raildo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hierarchical-multitenancy)" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hierarchical_multitenancy' | 16:03 |
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| raildo | I think that we have few points to talk today | 16:03 |
| vilobhmm | sure | 16:04 |
| vilobhmm | lets start | 16:04 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:04 |
| raildo | so... let's go :) | 16:04 |
| raildo | #topic Review Actions | 16:04 |
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| * raildo searching the review topics | 16:05 | |
| raildo | :P | 16:05 |
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| vilobhmm | i think everything here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-quota-driver-api | 16:05 |
| sajeesh | :-) | 16:05 |
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| vilobhmm | for Nova | 16:05 |
| vilobhmm | Cinder : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205369/ - Nested Quota Driver Implementation | 16:05 |
| vilobhmm | Nova : everything here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-quota-driver-api | 16:05 |
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| vilobhmm | needs to be reviewed | 16:06 |
| vilobhmm | does everyone agree ? | 16:06 |
| raildo | sure, we need start to ask for core reviews in both services | 16:06 |
| ericksonsantos | I saw you already have a review, vilobhmm, that's nice | 16:06 |
| sajeesh | yes | 16:06 |
| ericksonsantos | I'll review this patch soon. | 16:06 |
| sajeesh | raildo, I have uploaded the latest patch | 16:07 |
| vilobhmm | thanks ericksonsantos | 16:07 |
| raildo | sajeesh: great | 16:07 |
| sajeesh | thanks erickson...kindly review the code | 16:07 |
| raildo | #action ALL ask for code review to core team in both services | 16:08 |
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| sajeesh | in the latest patch , I have kept the authentication method same like that in DbQuotaDriver | 16:08 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: can you send me the link for this patch? | 16:09 |
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| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, I'm planing to split your patch in at least 2 patches: 1. make the keystone calls and the tests for it; 2. the quota calculation | 16:09 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, so it will be easier for the reviewers and for us. What do you think? | 16:10 |
| sajeesh | vilobh they are already in two patches | 16:10 |
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| sajeesh | raildo , I will send it | 16:10 |
| raildo | about the keystone calls, I think that we have to use the current context.py https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/context.py | 16:10 |
| raildo | and the same for nova | 16:10 |
| raildo | imho this is the correct place to make the keystone calls | 16:10 |
| sajeesh | vilobh, in the latest patches I have split the code | 16:11 |
| raildo | to implement* | 16:11 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, nice | 16:11 |
| raildo | and we can use this calls in the driver | 16:11 |
| vilobhmm | ericksonsantos : i think the changes are minimal in current patch as well | 16:11 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, I'll take a look at it | 16:11 |
| raildo | but not implementing "get_parent" in quota.py | 16:11 |
| vilobhmm | as i have mininmized duplication of code | 16:11 |
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| raildo | ericksonsantos: nice | 16:11 |
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| sajeesh | you mean make keystone calls in context.py | 16:11 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, but it's lacking tests | 16:11 |
| vilobhmm | agree | 16:12 |
| vilobhmm | and thats why i have requested you to help there | 16:12 |
| vilobhmm | with tests | 16:12 |
| raildo | sajeesh: yes | 16:12 |
| vilobhmm | raildo, sajeesh, ericksonsantos : i have a plan…since the "creation of allocated table patch[https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185704/] and setting default values to subproject[https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194406/]" has been merged in cinder ….from nova side we can try merging respective patches in nova and help colloboratively in helping nova with the reviews…..For the nested quota driver implementation if we all | 16:12 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, in the first patch we can just test the keystone calls, and in the next we can test the quota calculation | 16:12 |
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| sajeesh | raildo , I will change it to context.py | 16:12 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, ++ | 16:12 |
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| ericksonsantos | sure we can | 16:13 |
| sajeesh | vilobh ++ | 16:13 |
| vilobhmm | raildo, sajeesh, ericksonsantos : trying to do eveything in a smaller group will lead us nowhere IMHO | 16:13 |
| raildo | vilobhmm: I agree, that why yesterday I made a rebase in this patches and fix some tests | 16:13 |
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| sajeesh | vilobh ++ | 16:14 |
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| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, if we made a big change it will be difficult for us to test and for the reviewers. | 16:14 |
| raildo | #action sajeesh, raildo in Nova side, try merge the initial patches related to allocated column and setting default values to subprojects | 16:14 |
| vilobhmm | ericksonsantos : agree | 16:15 |
| vilobhmm | even i can help in above action item | 16:15 |
| vilobhmm | and with reviwing nova side code | 16:15 |
| raildo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151327/29 | 16:15 |
| ericksonsantos | me too | 16:15 |
| vilobhmm | since its a huge change…we can colllectively help sajeesh to move defaults values for sub-project and allocated column and you all can help me with getting the nested quota driver for cinder in... | 16:15 |
| raildo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151677/ | 16:15 |
| sajeesh | ++1 | 16:15 |
| vilobhmm | lets just focus on these 3 tasks | 16:16 |
| raildo | sounds good to me | 16:16 |
| vilobhmm | and even if we have all 3 in by next week we would have achieved almost 60% | 16:16 |
| vilobhmm | and pushing nova quota driver code would be easy | 16:16 |
| vilobhmm | awesome | 16:16 |
| sajeesh | deadline is July-30 | 16:16 |
| vilobhmm | looks like we all r on same page | 16:16 |
| sajeesh | yes | 16:17 |
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| vilobhmm | sure https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 16:17 |
| vilobhmm | sajeesh : ^^ | 16:17 |
| sajeesh | thanks | 16:17 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: I think that we probably will need FF for it :( | 16:17 |
| ericksonsantos | I think our main challenge in order to be quota driver merged is the interaction between services (cinder/nova) and keystone | 16:18 |
| sajeesh | whether we get it ? we are not in priority list | 16:18 |
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| raildo | I think if we finish the implementation until July-30 | 16:18 |
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| raildo | and with tests, we have a good argument to ask for it | 16:19 |
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| sajeesh | that is possible | 16:19 |
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| vilobhmm | raildo : true | 16:19 |
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| sajeesh | I normally work during the weekend.. I will try to do some extra work if possible | 16:19 |
| vilobhmm | ericksonsantos : I agree but can you clearly state what are the problems you are facing | 16:19 |
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| raildo | great, let's go work hard, and keep the focus, I believe that we can do this :) | 16:20 |
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| ericksonsantos | cinder does not make calls to keystone right now, and we need them in order to get project hierarchy information | 16:20 |
| vilobhmm | raildo : yes we can :) | 16:20 |
| sajeesh | sure we will do it :-) | 16:20 |
| ericksonsantos | so, I think it's a delicate change, | 16:20 |
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| vilobhmm | :P | 16:20 |
| vilobhmm | ok | 16:21 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, lol | 16:21 |
| sajeesh | :-) | 16:21 |
| raildo | anything more to discuss? | 16:21 |
| vilobhmm | ericksonsantos : it would be same as interacting with other services….so we shoudl be good | 16:21 |
| vilobhmm | as you described yesterday in the email thread | 16:21 |
| vilobhmm | i think that approach should be fine | 16:21 |
| vilobhmm | nothing more from my side | 16:22 |
| vilobhmm | raildo : ^^ | 16:22 |
| vilobhmm | so we have 3 action items | 16:22 |
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| vilobhmm | 1. Push for sajeesh patch | 16:22 |
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| vilobhmm | for subproject default and allocated column get them merged by next week | 16:22 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:22 |
| vilobhmm | 2. Cinder nested quota driver implementation…work on getting it merged | 16:23 |
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| vilobhmm | 3. If sajeesh's patch get stuck with reviews as his timezone is different i can move his patch ahead….since melanie is also from yahoo i can talk with her in person and help to speed up the reviews | 16:23 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: sounds good for you? | 16:24 |
| sajeesh | vilobh thanks | 16:24 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, nice to know you can talk to melwitt in person :) | 16:24 |
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| sajeesh | ++1 | 16:24 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: one more thing, please abandon the other patches asap :) | 16:25 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, ++ | 16:25 |
| sajeesh | raildo, I have abandoned | 16:25 |
| raildo | ops, you already have done | 16:25 |
| vilobhmm | ericksonsantos : we sit next to each other | 16:25 |
| raildo | sorry | 16:25 |
| sajeesh | its ok :-) | 16:25 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, awesome o/ | 16:25 |
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| ericksonsantos | I think that's it | 16:26 |
| raildo | ok, so let's go work! | 16:26 |
| vilobhmm | yes | 16:26 |
| vilobhmm | nothing from my side | 16:26 |
| raildo | have a good weekend :) | 16:26 |
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| sajeesh | raildo, one more thing | 16:26 |
| raildo | #endmeeting hierarchical-multitenancy | 16:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jul 24 16:26:56 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:26 |
| raildo | opd | 16:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2015/hierarchical_multitenancy.2015-07-24-16.03.html | 16:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2015/hierarchical_multitenancy.2015-07-24-16.03.txt | 16:27 |
| raildo | ops | 16:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2015/hierarchical_multitenancy.2015-07-24-16.03.log.html | 16:27 |
| raildo | sajeesh: go ahead | 16:27 |
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| sajeesh | will discuss through mail | 16:27 |
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| sajeesh | is it ok | 16:27 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: just talk in the skype group | 16:28 |
| raildo | sajeesh: we are online :) | 16:28 |
| sajeesh | ok..thanks :-) | 16:28 |
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| geoffarn_ | #startmeeting mercadorproject | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 24 17:00:41 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is geoffarn_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: mercadorproject)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mercadorproject' | 17:00 |
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| geoffarn_ | Anyone here? If not, we can keep it short. | 17:01 |
| * shaleh raises hand | 17:01 | |
| raildo | \o | 17:02 |
| okrieg | here | 17:02 |
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| geoffarn_ | So gyee and I met yesterday at HP (with others), | 17:03 |
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| geoffarn_ | and we're pulling together design docs | 17:03 |
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| geoffarn_ | Hope to get them up today or tomorrow | 17:03 |
| raildo | great | 17:03 |
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| geoffarn_ | The basic question has been, if we build the publisher and subscriber to configure the two Keystones, will everything just work the way it's supposed to? | 17:04 |
| geoffarn_ | I.e. do we need to tweak Keystone? | 17:05 |
| geoffarn_ | For the first POC, the answer seems to be that it'll work OK | 17:05 |
| okrieg | I thought that something was going to be needed to handle remote tokens? | 17:06 |
| okrieg | based on chat we had the other day, i.e., subscriber getting token from publisher... | 17:06 |
| shaleh | okrieg: for the user to auth and work yes, for pub/sub likely not | 17:06 |
| geoffarn_ | Not a problem, as it turns out | 17:06 |
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| okrieg | shaleh: that seems pretty fundamental | 17:07 |
| okrieg | what good is pub/sub if we can't use it :-) | 17:07 |
| geoffarn_ | In the long term, we'd like to move a lot of the stuff into Keystone | 17:08 |
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| geoffarn_ | The pub/sub handle the business logic and policy | 17:08 |
| shaleh | okrieg: agreed and it will be done for the POC | 17:08 |
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| shaleh | okrieg: geoffarn_ said no tweaking needed for pub/sub | 17:09 |
| shaleh | we are going to try making a custom token provider and see how far that gets us | 17:09 |
| geoffarn_ | However right now we can use pub/sub to relay the tokens from pub to sub, so that the user on the sub side only sees valid tokens with endpoints in the pub cloud | 17:09 |
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| okrieg | think I need a picture | 17:10 |
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| shaleh | okrieg: :-) on their way | 17:10 |
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| geoffarn_ | okrieg we don't need to tweak Keystone. The pub and sub services can configure both keystones | 17:10 |
| shaleh | gyee has some slides made, he is about to go on a holiday. When he gets back the wiki will be updates | 17:11 |
| geoffarn_ | Right - and I'm updating the sequence diagrams and API to match gyee's slides | 17:11 |
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| davidjc | we can temporarily move some keystone complexity into an agent, and then merge capability | 17:12 |
| geoffarn_ | THe fundamental thing is that no Keystone every has to validate a token that it hasn't generated | 17:12 |
| geoffarn_ | every -> ever | 17:12 |
| shaleh | geoffarn_: ++ | 17:12 |
| okrieg | hmmm, so user talkes to native keystone in each region, pub/sub configures the keystone on each side to get identity from sub, okay, I guess I grock it. Is that correct, the client always goes to the native keystone for pub region? | 17:12 |
| geoffarn_ | "generated" isn't the same as "provided" | 17:13 |
| okrieg | geoffarn_: makes sense | 17:13 |
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| shaleh | okrieg: yes. Just like in k2k federation today | 17:14 |
| shaleh | okrieg: the plan is to remove the onerous numerous intermediary tokens | 17:14 |
| okrieg | not sure I understand where the intermediary tokens come from. | 17:15 |
| geoffarn_ | We're meeting f2f again Tuesday to review/plan the POC implementation approach. Key requirement is to be demo-ready by mid-September | 17:15 |
| shaleh | okrieg: have you used a k2k federation as the user of a service? | 17:16 |
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| okrieg | shaleh: we are playing with k2k in the lab, for the mix and match federation work, should probably get deeper on it. | 17:18 |
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| geoffarnold | I'm back - my corp VPN just crashed | 17:20 |
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| shaleh | okrieg: basically you ask "home" keystone for a token, then you need to convert it to a SAML2 request, then you get an unscoped token from "foreign" keystone, then you finally ask for a scoped taken from foreign | 17:20 |
| shaleh | okrieg: this is all down by the consumer of the service, in code or commands | 17:20 |
| shaleh | s/down/done/ | 17:21 |
| geoffarnold | Obviously this provides a lousy (non-transparent) UX, which is one thing we're trying to fix | 17:21 |
| raildo | ++ | 17:22 |
| okrieg | yes, that's exactly what we are doing right now with the mix/match federation | 17:23 |
| okrieg | woudl be super awsome if we could use the pub/sub infrastructure to get rid of that | 17:23 |
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| shaleh | okrieg: we are thinking a customer token provider with a mapping could allow the request to be done server side | 17:23 |
| geoffarnold | The intent is that pub/sub sets things up for you | 17:23 |
| shaleh | s/customer/custom/ | 17:23 |
| okrieg | awesome! | 17:24 |
| shaleh | okrieg: plans and reality though, we shall see | 17:24 |
| geoffarnold | The mercador use case is fairly straightforward, because we don't require or expect mixing and matching | 17:25 |
| okrieg | we can design so we can shim in | 17:25 |
| geoffarnold | endpoint groups are homogeneous with respect to auth | 17:25 |
| geoffarnold | not true for Mix & Match | 17:26 |
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| shaleh | geoffarnold: once we can show it working they may be able to dupe and transform for their needs | 17:26 |
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| geoffarnold | agreed | 17:27 |
| geoffarnold | may be use, maybe extend | 17:27 |
| geoffarnold | raildo, what's next for reseller? | 17:27 |
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| raildo | geoffarnold: we finish the implementation to use is_domain in the token response... so right now we can put is_domain in the policy.json | 17:28 |
| raildo | fow now, we are just fixing some code reviews in the patches | 17:28 |
| geoffarnold | ok | 17:29 |
| geoffarnold | At some point (prob at the same time as APIv4) we need to fix domain namespace | 17:29 |
| raildo | please review :) #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:bp/reseller,n,z | 17:29 |
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| geoffarnold | Are you assuming that reseller will handle domain naming for its customers? | 17:30 |
| raildo | hum.. I think so | 17:31 |
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| geoffarnold | Same as Mercador. We should align user stories | 17:31 |
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| raildo | ok | 17:32 |
| raildo | geoffarnold: I think that we need to think more about the next steps for reseller in M release | 17:32 |
| raildo | and how to improve it to Mercador | 17:32 |
| geoffarnold | I really want to understand how we can create a real "virtual region", like a "virtual machine" - potentially nested arbitrarily deep | 17:32 |
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| geoffarnold | raildo +1 | 17:33 |
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| geoffarnold | I've got a building maintenance guy at the door who wants to turn off my electricity for 15 minutes. I think we'll wrap this up here. | 17:35 |
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| geoffarnold | Bye... | 17:36 |
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| geoffarnold | #endmeeting | 17:36 |
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| raildo | have a good weekend | 17:36 |
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| geoffarnold | Ah, I'm now "geoffarnold" rather than "geoffarn_" | 17:37 |
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| geoffarn_ | #endmeeting | 17:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jul 24 17:39:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mercadorproject/2015/mercadorproject.2015-07-24-17.00.html | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mercadorproject/2015/mercadorproject.2015-07-24-17.00.txt | 17:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mercadorproject/2015/mercadorproject.2015-07-24-17.00.log.html | 17:39 |
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