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| Daisy | Hello | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | It's time for I18n meeting | 08:00 |
| Daisy | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 20 08:00:27 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 08:00 |
| Daisy | who is around ? | 08:00 |
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| jpich | Hello Daisy | 08:00 |
| epico | Hello Daisy | 08:01 |
| Daisy | Hi, jpich | 08:01 |
| Daisy | Hi, epico | 08:01 |
| Daisy | Nice to see you | 08:01 |
| epico | Nice to see you, too. :) | 08:01 |
| ujuc | hi ~ :) | 08:01 |
| Daisy | hi, ujuc | 08:01 |
| Daisy | OK. Then let's start the meeting | 08:01 |
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| Daisy | There was a translators meet-up in Paris. | 08:02 |
| Daisy | epico and ujuc were not there. | 08:02 |
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| Daisy | I wrote an email to ML after the meeting | 08:02 |
| Daisy | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2014-November/000871.html | 08:03 |
| Daisy | Today, we will figure out some actions and assign owners if we could. | 08:03 |
| Daisy | I hope you have time to look at this email. :) | 08:03 |
| chandankumar | hello Daisy epico | 08:03 |
| Daisy | Hi, chandankumar | 08:03 |
| epico | hello chandankumar | 08:03 |
| Daisy | I have figure out some possible actions. | 08:04 |
| Daisy | We could go through them 1 by 1. | 08:04 |
| Daisy | 1. Actions to promote the team | 08:04 |
| Daisy | I think, some translation teams may have only a few numbers. We hope to enroll more people to join translation teams. | 08:05 |
| Daisy | We may want to promote it. | 08:05 |
| Daisy | There are some discussions, like use blogs, meet-ups to promote translation team. | 08:05 |
| Daisy | They are good suggestions. | 08:06 |
| Daisy | Some actions we could do it now, I think, include | 08:06 |
| Daisy | prepare for a formal deck to introduce translation team, and coordinators could use this deck to present how we are working in translation areas in the local meet-ups. | 08:07 |
| Daisy | chandankumar and I did a presentation to introduce translation management in FUEL conference last Saturday | 08:08 |
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| Daisy | We could share this deck. | 08:08 |
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| Daisy | chandankumar: I think, the only thing I want to improve the deck is how new comers could start their contributions. | 08:09 |
| chandankumar | Daisy, The hangout video of presentation will be available soon on youtube | 08:09 |
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| Daisy | another action we could do now is to create a mailing list for each translation team. | 08:10 |
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| chandankumar | Daisy, i will add that part how new comers can start their contribution | 08:10 |
| Daisy | chandankumar: I don't have MS office, so I use an office provided by a Chinese local provider. I think the interoperability maybe not good with MS office. So I have changed it into pdf. If you want add this part, you could use a ppt to add the content, then I could merge it into my version. | 08:11 |
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| chandankumar | sure :) | 08:12 |
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| Daisy | get back to the mailing list | 08:12 |
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| Daisy | If any translation team wants to create their own dedicated mailing list, other than I18n, please let me know. I will send an email to I18n mailing list about the information. | 08:13 |
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| Daisy | #action Daisy to follow up with the creation of dedicate mailing lists for translation teams. | 08:13 |
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| Daisy | #action chandankumar to add contents about how new comers start contributions. | 08:14 |
| Daisy | 2. Actions to improve wiki pages. | 08:14 |
| Daisy | There were a lot of discussion like: | 08:15 |
| Daisy | A clear start point to guide new comers | 08:15 |
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| Daisy | Guidance to bug report | 08:15 |
| Daisy | A clear goal and timelines for all translation team | 08:16 |
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| Daisy | Clearly describe translation priorities | 08:16 |
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| Daisy | So we need to improve our wiki page to cover these. | 08:16 |
| Daisy | chandankumar: would you like to write a wiki page to guide new comers to join and contribute? I think it should be same as the deck. | 08:17 |
| chandankumar | yes | 08:17 |
| Daisy | a wiki page under https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam | 08:18 |
| Daisy | Thanks. | 08:18 |
| Daisy | Then I will take other parts. | 08:18 |
| Daisy | #action Daisy & chandankumar to write wiki pages to cover guidance to new comers, bug reporters, translation work items, and etc. | 08:18 |
| Daisy | 3. Add translators contribution into stackalytics.com | 08:19 |
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| Daisy | OpenStack uses this website: http://stackalytics.com/ to track the contributions. All kinds of contributions. | 08:19 |
| Daisy | We want to include our translators contributions there too. | 08:20 |
| Daisy | It's a more technical work. | 08:20 |
| ujuc | lol ~~ | 08:20 |
| Daisy | epico: I hope you might have interests to this work item. | 08:20 |
| Daisy | After we go to Zanata, Zanata will provide a serials of API to return each person's contributions, like how many words he/she translated, how many words he/she reviewed. | 08:21 |
| epico | Daisy: let me ask my manager. | 08:22 |
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| epico | or ask zanata team? | 08:22 |
| Daisy | What we need to do, is to collect those data, understand how stackalytics show these data in charts, and show them. | 08:22 |
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| Daisy | It take time, need collaboration with both Zanata team and stackalytics dev team. | 08:23 |
| Daisy | ok, epico | 08:23 |
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| Daisy | anyway, I will describe this work item in i18n mailing list, and ask if anybody who want to take care. | 08:24 |
| Daisy | #action Daisy to send to ML about the work to add translators contribution into stackalytics.com | 08:25 |
| Daisy | 4. A common glossary could help to improve the quality. | 08:26 |
| Daisy | chandankumar: how about your glossary table? | 08:26 |
| chandankumar | Daisy, yes | 08:26 |
| Daisy | Did you glossary table pass the review? | 08:26 |
| chandankumar | Daisy, yes | 08:26 |
| chandankumar | Daisy, at the end of this week it is released | 08:27 |
| Daisy | It is very nice ! Congratulations. | 08:27 |
| chandankumar | Daisy, Thanks :) | 08:27 |
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| Daisy | We could adopt it in openstack translation. | 08:27 |
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| chandankumar | :) | 08:28 |
| Daisy | chandankumar: I need you to think about how to adopt it in openstack translation. | 08:28 |
| Daisy | Now we are using Transifex. We need to import your glossary into Transifex. | 08:28 |
| Daisy | I remember Transfix could import glossary from a cvs file. | 08:29 |
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| chandankumar | sure :) | 08:29 |
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| Daisy | we could do it with following steps: | 08:29 |
| Daisy | export your table into a excel file, distribute the excel file to community, and invite translation teams to input their translations into this excel file. | 08:30 |
| Daisy | And after we collect some translations, we could import it into Transifex, and Zanata in the future. | 08:31 |
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| Daisy | I think, some translators like offline translations more than on-line translations. | 08:31 |
| * chandankumar noted down the steps. | 08:31 | |
| Daisy | #action chandankumar & Daisy would take care of the glossary. | 08:32 |
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| Daisy | OK. The following two possible actions are: | 08:33 |
| Daisy | 5. 9. keep on maintain "Horizon translatable strings rules" | 08:34 |
| Daisy | 6. keep on maintain of doc priorities | 08:34 |
| Daisy | as to this two actions, the appropriate people I should talk to are not in the meeting now. | 08:35 |
| Daisy | so just leaving them there. I will follow up after the meeting. | 08:35 |
| chandankumar | yes | 08:35 |
| Daisy | I have done. | 08:36 |
| Daisy | What else in your mind about improving our work? Any suggestions? Any comments? | 08:36 |
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| Daisy | #topic open discussions | 08:37 |
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| epico | hi jpich | 08:38 |
| epico | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134850/ | 08:38 |
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| epico | how to re-trigger jenkins jobs? | 08:38 |
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| epico | or setup the test environments of gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.i18n? | 08:38 |
| jpich | leaving a comment with "recheck no bug" may be the fastest way | 08:38 |
| jpich | if you're sure the failure isn't related to your patch | 08:39 |
| epico | thanks, I will have a try. | 08:39 |
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| jpich | :) | 08:39 |
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| Daisy | anything else? | 08:40 |
| Daisy | so I will close the meeting. | 08:41 |
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| Daisy | Thank you for attending. Let's keep contact through mailing list and IRC. | 08:41 |
| Daisy | #endmeeting | 08:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 20 08:42:13 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-11-20-08.00.html | 08:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-11-20-08.00.txt | 08:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-11-20-08.00.log.html | 08:42 |
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| eglynn | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 20 15:01:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | hey folks | 15:01 |
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| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:01 |
| fabiog | o/ | 15:01 |
| _elena_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| idegtiarov | o/ | 15:01 |
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| gordc | o/ | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | #topic kilo blueprints | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kilo blueprints (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:02 | |
| pradk | o/ | 15:02 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:02 |
| eglynn | so I discussed the use of BPs and specs with Thierry | 15:02 |
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| nsaje | o/ hey guys | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | the upshot is BP+spec is the preference | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | but we're free to use our judgement to go with BP only | 15:03 |
| eglynn | (for smaller features where the path forward is fairly clear) | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | the other thing I'll be doing is raising placeholder "blocked" BPs in LP for any specs under review | 15:04 |
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| eglynn | hopefully the whole specs review thing will be less of a drag on folks' time | 15:04 |
| nealph | o/ | 15:04 |
| eglynn | what's the general feeling on that? | 15:04 |
| llu-laptop | seems good to me | 15:04 |
| idegtiarov | sounds good | 15:05 |
| ildikov | fine with me too | 15:05 |
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| pradk | +1 | 15:05 |
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| eglynn | k, so the pressure will be on to get the BP roster for kilo-1 finalized soon | 15:05 |
| gordc | who's deciding what feature falls in to spec territory or not? | 15:05 |
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| nealph | and how is that communicated? | 15:06 |
| eglynn | gordc: I would say use your judgement and we'll chat collaboratively about any edge cases | 15:06 |
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| * eglynn doesn't want to create yet more bureaucracy | 15:06 | |
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| gordc | eglynn: cool cool. honour system. | 15:06 |
| eglynn | so the default would still be to need a spec | 15:06 |
| eglynn | gordc: yeah, exactly | 15:07 |
| llu-laptop | yeah, sepc should be default | 15:07 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: +1 | 15:07 |
| eglynn | #topic cross-project liaisons | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cross-project liaisons (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:07 | |
| eglynn | so liaisons are the new thing in openstack, there's 7 positions per project at the last count | 15:08 |
| eglynn | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 15:08 |
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| eglynn | thanks to the folks who have already signed up to take a liaison role | 15:08 |
| fabiog | eglynn: do you know if cdent and I can be the API liasion? | 15:08 |
| eglynn | fabiog: I've put myself in on the api-wg just as a placeholder until jay removes the core requirement | 15:09 |
| fabiog | eglynn: ok | 15:09 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: once that's done, cdent is interested, are you are as well IIRC | 15:09 |
| eglynn | fabiog: (no problem having 2 liaisons, some projects do this already) | 15:10 |
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| eglynn | I don't have a name yet for https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Vulnerability_management | 15:10 |
| eglynn | I'll do it if no one else interested | 15:11 |
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| eglynn | but volunteers welcome :) | 15:11 |
| eglynn | similarly I put myself in as stable-maint | 15:11 |
| eglynn | happy to do it, but happy also if someone else interested | 15:11 |
| llu-laptop | I'm intrested, but don't know what is required for the security liason | 15:11 |
| llu-laptop | what skill set actually | 15:12 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: mainly being the first line of contact for the Vulnerability Management team | 15:12 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: so doing private reviews on embargoed issues | 15:12 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: and ensuring that the patches are merged lined up with the synchronized disclosure of the CVE | 15:13 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: (the private reviews used to be done by attaching a patch to an embargoed LP bug, dunno if there's also a private gerrit instance now) | 15:13 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: so I guess the skill set is understanding the code base and a general awareness of the "attack surface" | 15:14 |
| llu-laptop | what does private review mean? | 15:15 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: just that the patch is not on the public gerrit system | 15:15 |
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| llu-laptop | hmm, interesting, count me in then | 15:15 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: i can help with communication... one of the guys on security team is in my office. | 15:16 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: so if there's a security bug that's validated by the VMT, the patch is prepared kinda "in secret" before the issue is disclosed | 15:16 |
| fabiog | llu-laptop: I guess we don't want to disclose how we address security ... | 15:16 |
| llu-laptop | got that | 15:16 |
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| llu-laptop | so gordc, do you mind if we both be the liason, one of collegue is in opestack-security team | 15:17 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: sure... i'll be second contact :) | 15:17 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: just for context, a typical issue that came up the past was the mongoDB username/password leaking into the log files | 15:18 |
| eglynn | gordc, llu-laptop: thanks guys! | 15:18 |
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| eglynn | so one other heads-up on the liaisons thing | 15:18 |
| eglynn | Thierry has the idea of inviting all the liaisons to the project/release status meeting at 2100UTC on Tuesday | 15:19 |
| eglynn | that's the meeting that PTLs normally attend | 15:19 |
| eglynn | it wouldn't be mandatory | 15:19 |
| gordc | eglynn: well played... get the volunteers and then drop the additional meeting bomb. :) | 15:20 |
| llu-laptop | that woud be 5am for me, bad time :( | 15:20 |
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| eglynn | gordc, llu-laptop: TBH I have my doubts as to whether it would be even practical | 15:20 |
| gordc | eglynn: agreed. o | 15:20 |
| ildikov | eglynn: I'm not against, I guess we can decide based on the agenda, if we want to attend or not | 15:20 |
| gordc | i'll sit in for llu-laptop | 15:20 |
| gordc | (if i remember) | 15:21 |
| eglynn | 18 projects times 7 liaisons per project plus PTLs equals what, 144 people at an IRC meeting? | 15:21 |
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| ttx | (and to be fair, it's already the case, the meeting is pretty open) | 15:21 |
| eglynn | ttx: true | 15:21 |
| ildikov | eglynn: it can worth a try and then we can raise if it's not working | 15:21 |
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| ttx | eglynn: given that 99% of liaisons roles are filled by the PTL; we are not nearly at that number | 15:21 |
| llu-laptop | gordc: thx | 15:21 |
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| ildikov | eglynn: also, it's not a must that everyone has to talk | 15:22 |
| ttx | also it would just be an invitation, I don't expect them all to jkoin (same as today) | 15:22 |
| ttx | just want to give more opportunities for liaison to participate in leadership | 15:22 |
| ttx | anyway, it's not a done thing yet :) | 15:23 |
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| ildikov | ttx: cool, thanks for the clarification | 15:23 |
| ttx | it's more like a "you know, this meeting could be interesting for you" thing | 15:23 |
| eglynn | cool, all good | 15:24 |
| eglynn | anything else on liaisons? | 15:25 |
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| eglynn | #topic tie down dates/location for mid-cycle | 15:26 |
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| eglynn | so we discussed last week whether we even needed a mid-cycle | 15:27 |
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| eglynn | there was moderate consensus on a yes, IIRC? | 15:27 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: you were gonna run a poll on potential dates for the two HP sites proposed | 15:29 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: yes. I can do that | 15:29 |
| fabiog | eglynn: I thought the dates we pretty set .. last week of Jan | 15:29 |
| fabiog | eglynn: we were talking about 01/30, 01/31 and 02/01 | 15:30 |
| eglynn | fabiog: turns out I can't do that week, unfortunately :( | 15:30 |
| fabiog | ah | 15:30 |
| fabiog | eglynn: the real question is, do we want to do the meeting before Kilo2? | 15:31 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: that would be ideal, otherwise it's getting quite late in the cycle | 15:31 |
| fabiog | eglynn: we can move the meeting to a week earlier | 15:31 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: that would work for me | 15:32 |
| eglynn | fabiog: ... but there may be other lurking windows of unavailability for other folks | 15:32 |
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| eglynn | so I guess a poll of some sort would make sense? | 15:32 |
| eglynn | e.g. a wiki page or etherpad that folks could sign up on | 15:33 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: Ok I will set up one | 15:33 |
| fabiog | and post the link | 15:33 |
| ildikov | last time the wiki worked fine IIRC | 15:33 |
| gordc | i probably can't commit. i feel like my location puts me in the 'budget restrictions' list. | 15:33 |
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| eglynn | gordc: boo! ... darned bean-counters :( | 15:34 |
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| ildikov | gordc: :( | 15:35 |
| eglynn | budget would be OK for me, contingent on it being Galway as opposed to Sunnyvale | 15:35 |
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| eglynn | anything else on mid-cycle? | 15:37 |
| eglynn | #topic TSDaaS/gnocchi status | 15:38 |
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| eglynn | jd__ is not here, so I'll give a quick update | 15:38 |
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| eglynn | jd__ and gentux have landed a bunch of clean-up and re-organization patches in the past week | 15:40 |
| eglynn | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:stackforge/gnocchi,n,z | 15:40 |
| eglynn | from an API PoV the major change was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133353/6/gnocchi/rest/__init__.py | 15:41 |
| eglynn | measures are now returned as a odered list of tuples, instead of a dict as was previously tha case | 15:41 |
| eglynn | the dict was problematic because ordering was lost | 15:42 |
| eglynn | and there could be key collisions for timestamps of different granularities for boundary times | 15:42 |
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| eglynn | so the list is a lot cleaner | 15:42 |
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| eglynn | what did folks think of the g+ hangout, useful? | 15:43 |
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| llu-laptop | sorry I missed that:( i'm looking at gnocchi code these days, and got questions about 'resource', can i ask here? | 15:43 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: sure! | 15:44 |
| idegtiarov | hangout was really useful! | 15:44 |
| nsaje | missed that too, didn't catch which day was chosen in time. Did anyone record it? | 15:44 |
| llu-laptop | the resouce requires all resource_id/project_id/user_id present, and be in UUID format | 15:45 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop, nsaje: yeah I think it was recorded | 15:45 |
| nsaje | eglynn: great! | 15:45 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: yes, that's a problem for glance | 15:45 |
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| llu-laptop | but some existing metrics in ceilometer doesn't have project/user ID, some even don't have UUID resource_id | 15:45 |
| idegtiarov | nsaje: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njqJleBt308#t=1302 | 15:45 |
| nsaje | idegtiarov: thank you! | 15:45 |
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| nadya_ | eglynn: yes, it was useful! I think that q&a sessions about gnocchi will be needed once ore twice more | 15:45 |
| llu-laptop | saved the link :) | 15:46 |
| idegtiarov | nsaje: np! ) | 15:46 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: yep, and IIRC the glance-originated samples just have project ID and no user ID | 15:46 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: so I raised that issue on one of sileht's gnocchi patches | 15:46 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: we're gonna have to relax that requirement I think | 15:46 |
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| eglynn | (as we're not gonna get glance to shift to a user-oriented instead of tenant-oriented view of image ownership) | 15:47 |
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| llu-laptop | eglynn: yeah, and snmp metrics/some metrics from nova compute may not have resource_id in UUID format | 15:47 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: yeah, the NIC-related samples | 15:47 |
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| llu-laptop | another thing is that I don't know how to fit 'source' in ceilometer sample into gnocchi resource | 15:48 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: so source was a bit of a flawed concept I think in classic ceilo | 15:49 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: i.e. we'd the flexibility to multiple sources, but AFAIK never really took advantage of that | 15:49 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: so it introduced some unneccessary complexity in the storage drivers | 15:50 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: TBH I'm not sure if the lack of source was an oversight or a deliberate design decision | 15:50 |
| eglynn | lets punt that question to jd__ | 15:50 |
| llu-laptop | i'm not sure if any downstream is using source now, just a question | 15:50 |
| eglynn | yeap, definitely worth asking and coming to a definite conclusion on whether we'd need to keep that concept | 15:51 |
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| llu-laptop | 3rd question, current we only have genericResource, VMResource, SwiftResource, right? | 15:52 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: currently, yes | 15:52 |
| llu-laptop | how to add other resource types? must doing coding in the API level? | 15:52 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: the idea would be expand this pretty quickly to include all the resources types that need strongly typed attributes | 15:53 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: ... and yes, this would require explicit code for each new type | 15:53 |
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| llu-laptop | I think the current code doesn't allow having other metadata (besides proejct/user_id) in the genericResource | 15:54 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: yep, exactly | 15:54 |
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| eglynn | llu-laptop: so once at least one strongly-typed resource attribute is needed, we add a resource-specific type | 15:54 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: the key idea is to move aware from large blobs of free-form resource metadata | 15:55 |
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| eglynn | so as mentioned on Monday, it would be great to widen the circle of people involved in gnocchi | 15:56 |
| eglynn | (as a first step to merging the two core teams) | 15:56 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: is the design completed or it is possible to propose changes ... | 15:57 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: nope, the design is not cast in stone at this stage IMO ... so feel free to propose changes | 15:58 |
| eglynn | k, time is against up again | 15:58 |
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| eglynn | #topic open discussion | 15:58 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: ok, thanks I will do a deeper dive in the following weeks | 15:58 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: thanks! | 15:58 |
| fabiog | all, here it is the launchpad for the mid-cycle meeting: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/CeilometerKiloMidCycle | 15:59 |
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| fabiog | please add your name to the dates/locations that works for you | 15:59 |
| eglynn | fabiog: excellent, thanks! | 15:59 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: RBAC is pretty cooked and ready to go | 15:59 |
| eglynn | fabiog: nice! :) | 15:59 |
| eglynn | fabiog: I'll review today or tmrw | 16:00 |
| gordc | i created this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1384874 feel free to chime in. | 16:00 |
| gordc | that is all. | 16:00 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112137/ | 16:00 |
| eglynn | gordc: looking | 16:00 |
| eglynn | thanks all for a productive meeting! | 16:00 |
| eglynn | #endmeeting ceilometer | 16:01 |
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| gordc | laters | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 20 16:01:00 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-11-20-15.01.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-11-20-15.01.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-11-20-15.01.log.html | 16:01 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: code: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115717/ | 16:01 |
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| mdbooth | jaypipes dansmith: Interested in any initial thoughts you have on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136040/ | 16:27 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 20 17:01:06 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | hi who's here today | 17:01 |
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| jun_xie_1 | i am ~ hello~ | 17:01 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_November_20th_2014_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ Today's agenda | 17:02 |
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| sdague | o/ | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | dkranz, mkoderer: around? | 17:03 |
| mtreinish | well, I guess we can get started, and maybe more people will trickle in :) | 17:03 |
| sdague | maybe they forgot the tz shift :) | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | ah, yeah probably | 17:04 |
| aalekov | tz ok. I | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: around? | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | #topic XML Testing (mtreinish) | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | so I just wanted to make a quick mention of xml in tempest | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | a lot of patches have been coming through to disable xml testing on master | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | and moving forward the openstack rest apis are just going to be using json | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | so at this point I just wanted to make it clear that we should probably not accept new xml tests in tempest | 17:05 |
| sdague | +1 | 17:06 |
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| aalekov | +1 | 17:06 |
| jun_xie_1 | +1 so how r we going to handle the existing ones? | 17:06 |
| dtroyer | o/ | 17:06 |
| jun_xie_1 | should we try to remove them>? | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | jun_xie_1: they need to stay around until juno is eol | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | because we're running them on the stable branches | 17:06 |
| sdague | yeh, mostly, how soon do we think we can remove them, because it simplifies the code quite a bit to not have it in there | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | it's the same branchless tempest quagmire for removal of anything | 17:07 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: well, I kind of wonder in this case | 17:07 |
| sdague | the TC didn't say XML is part of the API, we specifically did not say that | 17:07 |
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| sdague | so these are extra tests for project specific things | 17:07 |
| sdague | which aren't part of the openstack interface | 17:07 |
| mtreinish | sdague: well at least for icehouse it was before that I think | 17:07 |
| sdague | the TC resolution about the API was pre icehouse | 17:08 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: do you want to take it to the ml then? I'm fine with ripping it out, but I want to make sure people aren't expecting the stable branch coverage | 17:09 |
| sdague | sure, can do | 17:09 |
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| mtreinish | #action sdague to take removing xml test question to ML | 17:09 |
| mtreinish | ok does anyone else have anything on this topic? | 17:09 |
| sdague | nope | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | #topic Spec Reviews | 17:10 |
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| mtreinish | ok does anyone have a pending spec review to bring up | 17:10 |
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| mtreinish | this is your chance to raise it | 17:11 |
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| mtreinish | ok I guess not | 17:12 |
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| * mtreinish thinks this will be a quick meeting | 17:12 | |
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| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 17:12 |
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| mtreinish | ok are there any open blueprints we need to discuss today? | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | sdague: on the javelin2 stuff did you want to respin that spec to outline the new plan | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | err I guess jogo volunteered for that didn't he | 17:13 |
| sdague | yes, jogo volunteered on that | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | ok I'll bug him to update that then | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | looking at the open tempest bp list the only thing I see is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/branchless-tempest-extensions | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | which I think salv-orlando has patches pending for | 17:15 |
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| mtreinish | so if we could get eyes on those it would be good, this is something I'm actually constantly being asked about | 17:15 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/126422 | 17:16 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/116129 | 17:16 |
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| mtreinish | I guess the only thing on bps (assuming no one else has one to bring up) is how we're going to handle devstack bps (if they exist) | 17:16 |
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| mtreinish | but we can use that as a segway into the next topic | 17:17 |
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| dtroyer | mtreinish: I have one or twp BPs on my post-summit list, so there will be some | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | #topic Devstack | 17:18 |
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| sdague | yeh, I should honestly probably write down the LIBS_FROM_GIT one as it turned into slightly more effort than I expected | 17:18 |
| sdague | and testing turned out to be kind of critical | 17:18 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: ok, well I think we decided to try using specs for devstack too, but I wasn't sure I've ever seen a bp on devstack before | 17:18 |
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| mtreinish | so I wasn't sure what criteria should be used for what's a bp, etc | 17:19 |
| sdague | I think we've not done it before, but it might be worth while for some of these | 17:19 |
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| dtroyer | mtreinish: I think they exist but we've never actually used it. | 17:19 |
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| sdague | like the venv discussion on the list probably should be written down before implemented, because of the edge cases. | 17:19 |
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| dtroyer | We should formalize the bigger projects a bit as it is getting hard to know where some of this stuff is coming from | 17:19 |
| jogo | mtreinish sdague: I did | 17:19 |
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| dtroyer | jogo: thanks, that's one I was thinking about. | 17:20 |
| sdague | dtroyer: agreed | 17:20 |
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| dtroyer | I don' tthink these are BPs, but I want a way to track things like the sudden appearance of Gluster support | 17:21 |
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| dtroyer | which specifically is what I knew was only a matter of time after we added Ceph | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: well you could do something like what we do in tempest for new tests | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | have a lighter spec template for new feature support | 17:21 |
| sdague | dtroyer: it seems like what we probably want is a more clear in / out / as an internal plugin / as an external plugin line | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | and make it more procedural so there is a single place to track it all | 17:22 |
| dtroyer | mtreinish: sounds good…common process FTW | 17:22 |
| sdague | the tuskar review kind of brought up that idea for me | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: do you want to draft up a patch to expand the qa-specs readme for the devstack process? and maybe a second template | 17:22 |
| dtroyer | sdague: exactly. we've crossed the philosophical line we had a year or so ago | 17:23 |
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| dtroyer | mtreinish: sure | 17:23 |
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| sdague | dtroyer: at least we have this nice new docs tree to document it better now :) | 17:23 |
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| sdague | speaking of which, can we also bring back the devstack logo into the docs? | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | #action dtroyer to write up devstack specific sections for qa-specs repo | 17:24 |
| sdague | I miss it | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | sdague: it should be doable, sphinx supports images | 17:24 |
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| dtroyer | sdague: I'll look in to it. I don't have the source but can probably track down jake to get it... | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | I guess it's more a matter of do you put it in the git repo vs hosting somewhere | 17:24 |
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| sdague | dtroyer: ok, cool | 17:24 |
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| dtroyer | in the repo, it was before | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | I'm not sure if sphinx lets you do remote images | 17:24 |
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| sdague | yeh, in the repo is fine | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | ok cool | 17:25 |
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| mtreinish | ok is there anything to discuss on devstack? | 17:25 |
| dtroyer | That's all I had on my mind… | 17:25 |
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| sdague | just fyi, LIBS_FROM_GIT looks fairly stable now | 17:26 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: oh, cool | 17:26 |
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| sdague | the glance_store fix is inbound, and there are some tests to cross check thing sanely | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | are you going to attempt to backport it? | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | or is it too large a change? | 17:26 |
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| sdague | I'm going to see how bad it is | 17:26 |
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| mtreinish | ok | 17:27 |
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| mtreinish | ok let's move on | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 17:27 |
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| mtreinish | is there anything to discuss about grenade this week? | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | jogo, sdague: ? | 17:28 |
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| jogo | no big changes coming through that I know of | 17:28 |
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| sdague | just jogo needs to do the ansible stuff :) | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | jogo: ok, I'm looking forward to the new javelin2 (or will it be javelin3) spec | 17:29 |
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| sdague | neutron is voting now | 17:29 |
| sdague | that's new | 17:29 |
| jogo | mtreinish: should I just append the original spec? | 17:29 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: whatever you prefer, you can just respin the existing spec | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | or push a new one to replace it, the net effect is the same | 17:30 |
| sdague | jogo: and circle with mordred he has a bunch of pieces here you can probably reuse | 17:30 |
| jogo | sdague: yeah | 17:31 |
| jogo | mtreinish sdague: will start working on this once I get live migration testing working for nova | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | sdague: oh awesome, so the recent changes from jakub landed | 17:31 |
| jogo | (getting super close) | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | jogo: cool | 17:31 |
| jogo | (to getting the testing working not live migrate itself) | 17:31 |
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| mtreinish | ok, let's move on | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | #topic Bugs | 17:32 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tempest-bug-report | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | #link http://keystone-weekly-bug-report.tempusfrangit.org/weekly-bug-reports/tempest-weekly-bug-report.html | 17:33 |
| mtreinish | we've got a bunch of new bugs this week | 17:33 |
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| mtreinish | and it looks like we're falling behind on the triage again | 17:33 |
| mtreinish | it looks like it's dkranz's rotation for triage | 17:33 |
| mtreinish | I'll circle back with him on it | 17:34 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any critical bugs they'd like to raise? | 17:34 |
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| mtreinish | ok I guess not | 17:35 |
| mtreinish | let's move on then | 17:35 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:35 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any reviews that they'd like to get extra eyes on? | 17:36 |
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| mtreinish | now's your chance to bring them up | 17:36 |
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| jun_xie_1 | speaking of reviews, so what is up with jenkins? i just noticed that many failed | 17:36 |
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| mtreinish | jun_xie_1: do you have a specific example? | 17:37 |
| sdague | jun_xie_1: if you are more specific about what's failing, that would be good | 17:37 |
| jun_xie_1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135860/ | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | I suspect you're seeing the latest icehouse reqs issue though | 17:37 |
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| jun_xie_1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134889/ | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | yeah that's https://bugs.launchpad.net/taskflow/+bug/1394647 | 17:38 |
| jun_xie_1 | ok got it thx | 17:38 |
| sdague | mtreinish: oh... also - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125095/ is a possible fix for that | 17:38 |
| dtroyer | when should we expect that to propogate through? | 17:38 |
| sdague | but it needs to be fixed | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: ok I'll take a look | 17:38 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: it's in the gate now | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: we can ask clarkb, fungi, or jeblair to promote it | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | I think it's still towards the bottom | 17:39 |
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| dtroyer | OK. I must have been watching the wrong thing last night… | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: there was another almost identical failure yesterday with oslo.vmware | 17:39 |
| dtroyer | ah, right, that's what I was watching | 17:40 |
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| mtreinish | it's been 2 days in a row that I've woken up to an oslo lib breaking icehouse... | 17:40 |
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| mtreinish | we're totally going to last the extended support window | 17:40 |
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| mtreinish | ok well I guess no one has any reviews to bring up | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | I guess I'll open the floor then | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | #topic Open Discussion | 17:41 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have a topic they'd like to bring up that wasn't on the agenda? | 17:41 |
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| kirshil | yes, who and when will do network func tests migration to neutron? | 17:42 |
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| mkoderer | hi sry, I am late | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | mkoderer: heh, no worries | 17:43 |
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| mtreinish | kirshil: as of now there are no concrete plans to remove anything from tempest, neutron has to spin up functional testing first | 17:43 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: they have functional testing fwiw | 17:44 |
| mtreinish | after that, there is a process for removing things from tempest | 17:44 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: yeah, but I was refering to duplicate coverage to warrant removing something from tempest | 17:44 |
| mtreinish | from what I remember the suite was still pretty small | 17:44 |
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| clarkb | rgr | 17:45 |
| kirshil | does it mean that new tests to tempest are not allowed? | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | no, new tests are still allowed | 17:45 |
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| mtreinish | ok is there anything else? otherwise we can end here | 17:47 |
| kirshil | put the question in this way: if i wanna suggest new network func test- to which project then? | 17:47 |
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| kirshil | tempest or neutron? | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | kirshil: honestly without any context on what your trying to add I can't say | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | you can try tempest and if it's outside the scope in tempest that should be caught in review | 17:48 |
| kirshil | f.e. some generic ipv6 related test not dealing with any vendor plugin? | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | I'm not sure what the scope of neutron functional testing is so you;d have to ask in -neutron | 17:49 |
| kirshil | ok thk got it | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | sure, np | 17:50 |
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| mtreinish | ok, if there isn't anything else I guess we'll call it | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 17:50 |
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| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 20 17:51:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-11-20-17.01.html | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-11-20-17.01.txt | 17:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-11-20-17.01.log.html | 17:51 |
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| mikal | So who is here for the nova meeting? | 20:59 |
| jogo | o/ | 20:59 |
| n0ano | o/ | 20:59 |
| mriedem | sort of... | 20:59 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:00 |
| mikal | I don't think we have a quorum requirement, so... | 21:00 |
| mikal | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 20 21:00:46 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mikal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:00 |
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| mikal | #topic Kilo specs | 21:01 |
| alaski | o/ | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo specs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| mikal | So, perhaps this isn't the best title ever | 21:01 |
| mikal | But I wanted to highlight the priority tracking etherpad | 21:01 |
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| mikal | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:01 |
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| mikal | Seems most people have found it now, its got a fair bit to review on it | 21:01 |
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| dansmith | FWIW, | 21:01 |
| mikal | So... cores please take a look and review some of those things | 21:01 |
| mikal | Any other comments on priority tracking? | 21:02 |
| dansmith | I've already hit several of the reviews listed and really like having the list | 21:02 |
| mikal | Good | 21:02 |
| mikal | I think we should cross those off as they merge | 21:02 |
| jogo | having the list is nice | 21:02 |
| mikal | And then do a weekly cleanp | 21:02 |
| mikal | cleanup even | 21:02 |
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| jogo | at the bottom I included my patch to add the priorities to nova-specs | 21:02 |
| mikal | Yep, I saw that. I think that's a fair thing to do. | 21:02 |
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| mikal | Anything else on that? | 21:03 |
| mikal | Oh, I did that backwards | 21:03 |
| jogo | spot checking, I saw a few -2s on there | 21:03 |
| mikal | I was meant to be talking about spec approvals first | 21:03 |
| dansmith | jogo: where? | 21:03 |
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| jogo | such as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102545/ | 21:03 |
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| dansmith | that was procedural, but yeah | 21:04 |
| mikal | Ahhh, we should ping John about that one | 21:04 |
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| mikal | So... | 21:04 |
| dansmith | I think it's most helpful if the things on that list are added by the priority owner as "ready to review" and "important to review next" | 21:04 |
| mikal | What I was meant to talk about in this topic | 21:04 |
| mikal | Does anyone have any spec fast track requests? | 21:04 |
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| mikal | dansmith: yeah, I'd like the list to be short... If its 100's of patches it wont help. | 21:05 |
| mikal | So... no fast track requests this week? | 21:05 |
| mikal | Moving on in 3... | 21:05 |
| jogo | nova-specs can use some review love though | 21:05 |
| dansmith | yeah, I can just see this being a place where people put their reviews they want looked at, given that it's just an etherpad | 21:05 |
| mikal | dansmith: we shall prune with vigour | 21:06 |
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| mikal | jogo: yeah, I've been on vacation this week. I promise to take a look next week. | 21:06 |
| mikal | Let's move on | 21:06 |
| mikal | #topic Gate status | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mikal | So, I've been on vacation... | 21:06 |
| mikal | How broken is everything? | 21:06 |
| jogo | mikal: not very | 21:07 |
| mikal | Yay! | 21:07 |
| dansmith | earlier in the week things seemed unhappy | 21:07 |
| mikal | There are no critical gate bugs at the moment? | 21:07 |
| dansmith | but in the last 24 hours things seem better | 21:07 |
| jogo | there have been some dependency issues | 21:07 |
| jogo | but not nova related | 21:07 |
| jogo | things like http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1394408 | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1394408 in oslo.vmware "suds-jurko' is not a global requirement " [Undecided,Fix committed] | 21:07 |
| jogo | nova wise things are pretty calm | 21:08 |
| jogo | top nova bug http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1370496 that we are tracking | 21:08 |
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| mikal | Oh, that ssh timeout is still a thing? | 21:09 |
| mikal | Wow, thats one long lived bug | 21:09 |
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| jogo | yeah its a catch all bug | 21:09 |
| dansmith | we've fixed several real things, and I imagine there are several still remaining | 21:09 |
| dansmith | but it's a wall that is hard to see past | 21:10 |
| mriedem | trying to get classification rates up now | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | but so far nothing new and surprising for nova in the gate | 21:10 |
| mikal | Ok | 21:10 |
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| mikal | Should we move on from this topic then? | 21:10 |
| mikal | Sounds like its not too terrible this week | 21:10 |
| jogo | mikal: things go well when your away, coincidence? | 21:11 |
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| mikal | I am happy to go on permanent vacation if you think its called for... | 21:11 |
| mikal | #topic Open Discussion | 21:11 |
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| mikal | So... This could be a record short nova meeting if we play our cards right... | 21:11 |
| mikal | Anything else we need to discuss? | 21:11 |
| jogo | mikal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1345460 | 21:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1345460 in nova "VMware: resize fails when there is more than one compute node" [High,In progress] | 21:12 |
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| jogo | mikal: someone seems to keep tagging that as critical | 21:12 |
| jogo | which is very anoying | 21:12 |
| dansmith | +1 | 21:12 |
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| mikal | Sigh | 21:12 |
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| mikal | So, sounds like something we should ask John to discuss in the next EU meeting when more of the vmware people are around | 21:13 |
| mikal | I've seen this on a few bugs | 21:13 |
| jogo | mikal: ++ | 21:13 |
| mikal | Tracy fixes it, but other people aren't listening | 21:13 |
| mikal | So, no meeting next week I assume | 21:14 |
| mikal | But I'll add it to the agenda after this so we don't forget to cover it | 21:14 |
| mikal | Anything else? | 21:14 |
| mikal | Or I could send an openstack-dev email I suppose | 21:15 |
| jogo | I think I can find something else | 21:15 |
| * jogo digs through specs | 21:15 | |
| mikal | Heh | 21:15 |
| jogo | there is a push to get more PXE boot support | 21:15 |
| mikal | Which hypervisor? | 21:15 |
| mikal | libvirt? | 21:15 |
| jogo | and the question of should we block docker if it doesn't have volume support | 21:15 |
| jogo | libvirt | 21:15 |
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| * jogo finds the spec | 21:15 | |
| jogo | s | 21:15 |
| mikal | Ahhh, so I promised to do a thing with the hypervisor support matrix and haven't yet | 21:16 |
| mikal | I need to get onto that next week | 21:16 |
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| mikal | I feel like the volume question should be driven by that conversation | 21:16 |
| jogo | https://review.openstack.org/133254 | 21:16 |
| mikal | i.e. set a standard, then hold everyone to it | 21:16 |
| jogo | docker: https://review.openstack.org/128753 | 21:16 |
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| mikal | jogo: do you disagree with the hypervisor support matrix plan? | 21:18 |
| jogo | mikal: sounds reasonable to me | 21:18 |
| mikal | Cool | 21:18 |
| dansmith | (me too) | 21:18 |
| mikal | So, we'll do that then | 21:18 |
| jogo | mikal: as long as volume support is required that is | 21:18 |
| jogo | but yeah sounds good | 21:18 |
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| mikal | Heh, well... | 21:19 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:19 |
| mikal | Specifics of what is required is part of that conversation | 21:19 |
| mikal | So let's defer that for now | 21:19 |
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| mikal | So... can I end this meeting? | 21:19 |
| mikal | Pretty please? | 21:19 |
| mikal | Then y'all could go nap for 40 minutes | 21:19 |
| jogo | early mark! | 21:19 |
| mikal | LOL | 21:19 |
| mikal | Here endeth the meeting | 21:19 |
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| mikal | #endmeeting | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:20 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 20 21:20:06 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-11-20-21.00.html | 21:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-11-20-21.00.txt | 21:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-11-20-21.00.log.html | 21:20 |
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