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| JRobinson__ | APAC Docs meeting notice: the meeting will begin in about 20 minutes. | 02:39 |
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| JRobinson__ | APAC Docs meeting in 10 minutes | 02:50 |
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| annegentle | you're good JRobinson__ | 02:53 |
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| JRobinson__ | okay, let's begin | 03:00 |
| JRobinson__ | #startmeeting docteam | 03:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 19 03:00:33 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is JRobinson__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 03:00 |
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| JRobinson__ | The first item we have is summit wrap up and summaries | 03:01 |
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| JRobinson__ | #topic Summit wrap-up | 03:01 |
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| JRobinson__ | One major summary is from annegentle: | 03:02 |
| JRobinson__ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2014-November/005432.html | 03:02 |
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| JRobinson__ | video recordings of keynotes and panels are also available, | 03:02 |
| JRobinson__ | https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-paris-summit-2014/session-videos/ | 03:03 |
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| JRobinson__ | Are there any wrap-up or summit related items to add? | 03:03 |
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| JRobinson__ | okay, on to the next items | 03:06 |
| JRobinson__ | video meetups are currently being set up, and an item to add to this meeting: | 03:07 |
| JRobinson__ | #action annegentle setting up video meetups | 03:07 |
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| JRobinson__ | Next is the Bug triage day | 03:07 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Bug triaging days | 03:08 |
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| JRobinson__ | the OpenStack wiki has been updated to include the | 03:08 |
| JRobinson__ | Bug triage day. An update email has been sent to the docs mailing list | 03:08 |
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| JRobinson__ | This covers the specific timing of the day: November 20th, anytime of the day relative to timezone | 03:09 |
| JRobinson__ | The goal is to triage 30 doc bugs on the openstack-manuals and openstack-api site. | 03:09 |
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| JRobinson__ | An update on the Networking Guide | 03:10 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Networking Guide latest | 03:10 |
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| JRobinson__ | The Networking guide is in progress: dvr needs a code patch, | 03:10 |
| JRobinson__ | and layer 3 HA is in testing | 03:11 |
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| JRobinson__ | currently, we have one more provider network scenario coming. | 03:11 |
| JRobinson__ | this is basically ML2 with OVS / vlan | 03:11 |
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| JRobinson__ | Any comments or questions on the networking guide updates? | 03:12 |
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| JRobinson__ | If there's nothing further, on to the next item | 03:13 |
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| JRobinson__ | #topic Install Guide Status | 03:14 |
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| JRobinson__ | #info Object Storage (Swift) updates to the install guide are now complete | 03:15 |
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| JRobinson__ | #info Sam-I-am is working on new architecture diagrams. These are designed to include swift and cinder nodes | 03:17 |
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| JRobinson__ | #info For any patches to the install guide - please try to avoid moving content of the guide around, unless you are willing to backport the change | 03:18 |
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| JRobinson__ | Are there any questions or comments on the Install Guide status? | 03:18 |
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| JRobinson__ | Okay, the next item is Diagram colour schemes | 03:21 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Diagram colour schemes | 03:21 |
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| JRobinson__ | Recently, new diagram colour palettes have been put together, with the goal to have consistent colour and shape across the docs | 03:22 |
| JRobinson__ | At the moment, the more monochrome style has gained some traction: | 03:23 |
| JRobinson__ | #link 23.253.231.218/rpc-diagrams/os-examplearchneutron-hw.png | 03:23 |
| JRobinson__ | There's also a more colourful version: | 03:24 |
| JRobinson__ | #link 23.253.231.218/rpc-diagrams/os-examplearchneutron-networks.png | 03:24 |
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| JRobinson__ | #info Please check the docs email list to comment on the line thickness or colour combinations. | 03:25 |
| JRobinson__ | Are there any questions on the design colours? | 03:26 |
| JRobinson__ | ^sorry diagram colours | 03:26 |
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| JRobinson__ | The next item is the OpenStack Docs Website Design Status | 03:29 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Website design status | 03:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Website design status (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:29 | |
| JRobinson__ | The current designs were sent through to the docs mailing list one week ago: | 03:30 |
| JRobinson__ | #link http://openstack-homepage.bitballon.com/docs | 03:31 |
| JRobinson__ | #link http://openstack-homepage.bitballon.com/book | 03:31 |
| JRobinson__ | #link http://openstack-homepage.bitballon.com/search | 03:31 |
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| JRobinson__ | #link http://openstack-homepage.bitballon.com/docs/ja | 03:31 |
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| JRobinson__ | #info please check on the new website designs, and if you have any comments, the current discussion is on the docs mailing list | 03:32 |
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| JRobinson__ | #info the new website designs will also be finalised soon. If you have comments on the new look, particularly if there are display or loading issues, contact the docs mailing list or openstack-doc channel ASAP | 03:33 |
| JRobinson__ | Ongoing actions for the website design: | 03:33 |
| JRobinson__ | #action annegentle to follow up the designs with Wes | 03:34 |
| JRobinson__ | Any questions on the designs? | 03:34 |
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| JRobinson__ | On to the next item: | 03:36 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic HOT Template Guide latest | 03:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "HOT Template Guide latest (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:37 | |
| stevebaker | hi! | 03:37 |
| JRobinson__ | stevebaker, hello \o | 03:37 |
| JRobinson__ | Currently the Hot template guide still needs more development time | 03:37 |
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| stevebaker | it still needs more content too (unless that is what you mean) | 03:38 |
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| JRobinson__ | stevebaker, I'm looking at emails from late October | 03:39 |
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| stevebaker | I'm deep in dev right now, but will finish off the software_deployments section when I get the chance | 03:39 |
| JRobinson__ | which I think are behind the times. | 03:39 |
| stevebaker | I think the biggest content hole is a chapter on resource groups / autoscaling | 03:39 |
| stevebaker | but there has yet to be a heat dev to volunteer for that | 03:40 |
| JRobinson__ | ah, okay, thank you for the update: | 03:40 |
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| JRobinson__ | #info chapter content on resources groups and autoscaling needs attention. A heat developer volunteer for the guide is also needed. | 03:41 |
| JRobinson__ | Any further comments or questions on the HOT templates? | 03:41 |
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| stevebaker | thats probably all for now. I'd like to phase out our template guide soon and start moving URLs over to the user guide | 03:42 |
| JRobinson__ | Okay. stevebaker thanks for the insights into the templates. | 03:43 |
| JRobinson__ | last topic before open discussion is the latest on the API docs | 03:44 |
| stevebaker | np. | 03:44 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic API docs latest | 03:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API docs latest (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 03:44 | |
| JRobinson__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group/API_Improvements | 03:44 |
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| JRobinson__ | the API working group are recording API styles. | 03:45 |
| JRobinson__ | are there any more comments on the API docs? | 03:46 |
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| JRobinson__ | Open discussion time: | 03:48 |
| JRobinson__ | #topic Open discussion | 03:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | seems kind of quiet | 03:50 |
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| JRobinson__ | Yep, not a lot of comments this meeting. | 03:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | did i miss any install guide things? | 03:51 |
| JRobinson__ | It was not new updates: | 03:52 |
| JRobinson__ | Networking guide in progress: dvr needs a code patch, layer 3 HA in testing (annegentle, 14:12:14) | 03:52 |
| JRobinson__ | one more provider network scenario coming, basically ML2 with OVS / vlan (annegentle, 14:17:45) | 03:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | pretty much | 03:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | still a bunch of things to test/fix | 03:53 |
| JRobinson__ | *nods* | 03:54 |
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| JRobinson__ | I think it's okay to bring the meeting to a close if there's no further discussion | 03:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | sure | 03:55 |
| JRobinson__ | alright. | 03:55 |
| JRobinson__ | #endmeeting | 03:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 03:55:46 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-11-19-03.00.html | 03:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-11-19-03.00.txt | 03:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2014/docteam.2014-11-19-03.00.log.html | 03:55 |
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| rromans | JRobinson__: nice job | 03:55 |
| JRobinson__ | thanks rromans. | 03:56 |
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| JRobinson__ | definitely need to head to lunch now though :) | 03:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting XenAPI | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 19 15:03:56 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 15:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: hows things going? | 15:04 |
| BobBall | Not too bad | 15:04 |
| BobBall | Not too bad at all | 15:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic XenServer CI | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "XenServer CI (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:04 | |
| BobBall | Oh yes - first subject of the day :) | 15:04 |
| BobBall | CI is going well | 15:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 15:04 |
| BobBall | Good passes recently | 15:04 |
| BobBall | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133975/ | 15:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | I know there were some snapshot issues matel was digging on | 15:05 |
| BobBall | that's the test change I've been rechecking | 15:05 |
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| BobBall | no snapshot issues in the CI | 15:05 |
| BobBall | is that a seperate subject? | 15:05 |
| BobBall | or is that Matel's neutron CI you're talking about? | 15:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, it could well be | 15:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I don't remember the details, just some 'bad' snapshots were created | 15:06 |
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| BobBall | Speaking of matel - here he is | 15:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: thats quite a lot of passes on that patch | 15:07 |
| BobBall | What are the CI snapshot issues you've seen? :) | 15:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe its worth a whirl? | 15:07 |
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| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: not enough for my liking :) | 15:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | lol, OK | 15:07 |
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| BobBall | So far only 8 passes. If the fail rate was 10% then we still probably wouldn't have hit it | 15:08 |
| BobBall | yet a 10% fail rate is huge | 15:08 |
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| matel | sorry guys, what's the topic? | 15:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | topic is CI | 15:08 |
| BobBall | 15:05 < johnthetubaguy> I know there were some snapshot issues matel was digging on | 15:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | just curious about the snapshot issues you saw the other day? | 15:09 |
| BobBall | I was trying to understand what they were | 15:09 |
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| matel | Ah, I re-generated the image later, and haven't looked at it since then. | 15:10 |
| matel | Gimme a sec, let me see how bad is the situation | 15:10 |
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| BobBall | oh I see | 15:10 |
| BobBall | it was snapshot issues with RAX in the image generatio | 15:11 |
| BobBall | not snapshot issues seen in tempest failures? | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, upstream code bug | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | need to put the fix up, but it should be deployed everywhere now | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I suspect it confused nodepool a bit | 15:11 |
| BobBall | yeah | 15:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | it will have tried to use a snapshot that wasn't actually a success | 15:11 |
| BobBall | matel was working on us using the latest nodepool code | 15:11 |
| BobBall | because there are a bunch of error handling improvements | 15:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | nova would delete it, but not if you delete the instance first, :( | 15:12 |
| matel | THe problem happened when I used nodepool to bake an image and launch instances of it. | 15:12 |
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| BobBall | I see | 15:13 |
| matel | No stuck/building instances now. | 15:13 |
| BobBall | fair enough | 15:13 |
| BobBall | Joy. | 15:13 |
| BobBall | So things seem to be OK ATM | 15:13 |
| matel | yes | 15:13 |
| BobBall | Even better. | 15:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 15:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | sounds like we fixed it | 15:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesomeness | 15:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more on the CI? | 15:13 |
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| BobBall | matel has been working on something | 15:14 |
| matel | I am looking at using neutron | 15:14 |
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| matel | Using the next XS candidate seems to work - as it has a newer Openvswitch | 15:14 |
| matel | Altough I still haven't passed all the smoke tests | 15:15 |
| matel | Again, they are failing around volumes. | 15:15 |
| matel | ..And securoty groups | 15:15 |
| matel | So that's what I'm working on. | 15:15 |
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| matel | ... And I documented the osci deployment | 15:16 |
| BobBall | Some changes were needed to devstack etc right? | 15:16 |
| BobBall | all upstream now? | 15:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | all good stuff | 15:16 |
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| matel | With the actual tips, it's not working. | 15:16 |
| matel | BobBall: I don't quite get what you mean. | 15:17 |
| BobBall | the changes needed to get neutron working | 15:17 |
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| BobBall | I thought there were some? | 15:17 |
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| matel | There were, they are merged AFAIK | 15:17 |
| matel | But it's still not passing. | 15:17 |
| matel | Let me look at the reviewboard | 15:18 |
| matel | Yes, my devstack changes have been approves | 15:18 |
| BobBall | Ah ok good | 15:18 |
| BobBall | so nothing outstanding | 15:18 |
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| BobBall | just us needing to continue to investigate | 15:18 |
| matel | SO it means, that if you deploy a neutron from upstream, you should be able to contribute to the investigation | 15:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, its a good problem to look into | 15:18 |
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| matel | Yes, exactly | 15:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | looking like we might kill off nova-network in lima | 15:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:19 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so, any more things to talk about? | 15:19 |
| matel | Not from my side | 15:19 |
| BobBall | kill off? | 15:19 |
| BobBall | surely the plan was to deprecate for at least 1 release | 15:19 |
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| BobBall | is the plan to formally deprecate for Kilo then and remvoe in Lima? | 15:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | if all goes to plan, possibly, although it might be a release later than all that | 15:20 |
| BobBall | yes | 15:21 |
| BobBall | that might make more sense | 15:21 |
| BobBall | actually getting rid of nova-network is going to be hard work :) | 15:21 |
| BobBall | But fair enough | 15:21 |
| BobBall | we'll just see where it goes | 15:21 |
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| BobBall | I'm aiming to have our CI running on Neutron before the end of Kilo | 15:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, sounds like a good plan | 15:22 |
| BobBall | so doesn't matter much | 15:22 |
| BobBall | oh | 15:22 |
| BobBall | matel - do we want to ask about quark? | 15:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, any more for any more? | 15:22 |
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| matel | quark - not yet. | 15:22 |
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| matel | Let's try to give a go to bare neutron | 15:22 |
| matel | ..or | 15:22 |
| BobBall | Okies | 15:22 |
| matel | johnthetubaguy: does quark support security groups? | 15:23 |
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| matel | .. maybe that's a question | 15:23 |
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| BobBall | Indeed. | 15:23 |
| BobBall | Does RAX offer security groups as a product offering? | 15:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | not right now | 15:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | it kinda upsets the scalability of OVS before you start worrying about other things | 15:24 |
| BobBall | heh. Fun. | 15:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: but what problems are you seeing? | 15:24 |
| matel | johnthetubaguy: all tests using secgroups are failing | 15:25 |
| BobBall | it's more matel but I think it's that tempest tests security groups and they don't work with OVS plain | 15:25 |
| matel | johnthetubaguy: I'll look at where the issue lies | 15:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hmm, OK | 15:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | we don't use upstream ML2 OVS driver though | 15:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | we use quark | 15:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | which is quite a different beast | 15:26 |
| BobBall | Indeed. Sorry, brb. | 15:26 |
| matel | johnthetubaguy: I would like to use upsteram components | 15:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | matel: agreed | 15:27 |
| matel | johnthetubaguy: If something is not possible with them, maybe we should use quark as well | 15:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | quark is open source, but its sure not upstream right now | 15:27 |
| matel | But give it a first go. | 15:27 |
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| matel | Is it owned by OS? | 15:27 |
| matel | or is it a rackerlabs projects? | 15:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, quark doesn't support security groups yet, so its not really the right answer for this either | 15:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't know for sure | 15:27 |
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| matel | tbh, I'm afraid that I'm gonna run into some serious issues there, but that's just my feeling. | 15:28 |
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| matel | I hope I'll be more clever next week. | 15:28 |
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| matel | Ah, johnthetubaguy. | 15:28 |
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| matel | Could you take a look at: https://github.com/citrix-openstack/install-nodepool/blob/2014-11/README.md | 15:29 |
| BobBall | back | 15:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | well, that stuff is confusing, getting something working without security groups will be a cool think anyways | 15:29 |
| matel | Just a quick read, to make sure it makes sense. | 15:29 |
| matel | OK, I'm on it. | 15:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | matel: it looks very close to what I did when I tried to set the thing up | 15:30 |
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| BobBall | Yeah - we can have an exclusion list for now until we figure out how to do security groups with OVS | 15:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | matel: I will try get someone to help out with that | 15:30 |
| matel | johnthetubaguy: do you need help to read? | 15:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 15:30 |
| matel | Oh, I didn't know that. | 15:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, I need to find some time from somewhere | 15:31 |
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| matel | aye | 15:31 |
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| matel | ok, I'm done for today. | 15:32 |
| BobBall | As am I | 15:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cools | 15:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 15:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 15:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 15:32:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-11-19-15.03.html | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-11-19-15.03.txt | 15:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-11-19-15.03.log.html | 15:32 |
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| thingee | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 19 16:00:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thingee. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| thingee | hi everyone | 16:00 |
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| bswartz | .o/ | 16:00 |
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| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| rhe00_ | hi | 16:00 |
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| DuncanT_ | hey | 16:00 |
| scottda | hi | 16:00 |
| bswartz | welcome back mike hope you had a good vacation | 16:00 |
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| thingee | bswartz: thanks! | 16:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:00 |
| mtanino | hi | 16:00 |
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| pwehrle | o/ | 16:01 |
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| thingee | yes sorry for the slow moving on things. drivers bps should've still been taken care of, but last week I was out on vacation and unfortunately my laptop was destroyed on the way to the summit | 16:01 |
| eharney | hi | 16:01 |
| thingee | so reviewing stuff was not great. | 16:01 |
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| thingee | I'm caught up on stuff with emails/work etc so reviews should be moving forward | 16:02 |
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| rushiagr | hi! | 16:02 |
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| thingee | just quick announcement, we're past accepting new drivers this release | 16:02 |
| lpabon | o/ | 16:02 |
| rushil1 | o/ | 16:02 |
| winston-d | o/ | 16:02 |
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| thingee | so what you see in k1 is what we have | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:02 |
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| thingee | https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/kilo-1 | 16:03 |
| xyang1 | hi | 16:03 |
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| thingee | ok lets get started | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: So, those that are still in the review process, though are valid? | 16:03 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: yup, all I wanted was the bp. | 16:03 |
| thingee | the intention that this is going to happen | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | Excelletn +2 | 16:03 |
| thingee | #topic 3rd party CI | 16:04 |
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| thingee | DuncanT_: you're up | 16:04 |
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| DuncanT_ | Right | 16:04 |
| thingee | oh yes agenda today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderMeetings | 16:04 |
| DuncanT_ | My usual question: How are people doing with 3rd party CI? Are we ready to pencil a cutoff date for having it working or are we going to let it drag? | 16:04 |
| DuncanT_ | Several people have suggested that a grace period is needed for new drivers | 16:05 |
| DuncanT_ | That sounds fine to me | 16:05 |
| bswartz | +1 for grace period -- it's hard enough to write a new driver | 16:05 |
| flip214 | DuncanT_: what cutoff date? isn't it good to _add_ CI, no matter what time? | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT_ We are working on moving some of our CI that is currently in China to the US to avoid firewall problems. | 16:05 |
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| thingee | flip214: to create pressure. otherwise people put it off | 16:06 |
| flip214 | we're currently setting up one, and pressure won't help | 16:06 |
| jbernard | what is the proposed length of the grace period? | 16:06 |
| DuncanT_ | flip214, I mean a cutoff where we start to talk about removing untested drivers | 16:06 |
| thingee | flip214: +1 | 16:06 |
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| thingee | flip214: not saying it's right, just that's the short answer. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT_ We hope that will help with consistent results. I have set an internal cutoff date that I will keep to myself. ;-) | 16:06 |
| DuncanT_ | jbernard, the end of the release | 16:06 |
| DuncanT_ | jbernard, Maybe? | 16:06 |
| thingee | is anyone interested in collaborating on a simpler solution? | 16:07 |
| * DuncanT_ is flexible for when we pick, but as things are going, progress is glacial | 16:07 | |
| flip214 | well, I'm planning to use the CI system for internal QA too, so there's a good reason to *make it work*. | 16:07 |
| DuncanT_ | flip214, +2 | 16:07 |
| xyang1 | DuncanT_: do you mean for existing drivers, if CI is not up and running, the driver will be removed before Kilo GA? | 16:07 |
| flip214 | well, then I'm at +3, so I'm good to go ;) | 16:07 |
| thingee | I've brought this up at the summit. and I think people are likely to build a ci if it's easier than the current solutions | 16:07 |
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| DuncanT_ | xyang1, That is what I'm thinking, and it is what we've said before | 16:08 |
| xyang1 | DuncanT_: for new drivers, it is different? | 16:08 |
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| thingee | DuncanT_: what's the suggested deadline? | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT_ K2? | 16:09 |
| rhe00_ | would it be possible for someone that has it running to clone the environment without releasing anything confidential? | 16:09 |
| DuncanT_ | K-2 seem reasonable for exisiting drivers? | 16:09 |
| * jungleboyj hopes so. | 16:09 | |
| thingee | DuncanT_: are you going to communicate to maintainers? | 16:09 |
| DuncanT_ | thingee, I can do so again, yes | 16:09 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: are we deprecating drivers? or just flat out removing? | 16:09 |
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| thingee | even broken non responsive maintainers, we agreed to deprecate | 16:10 |
| thingee | broken drivers/non responsive maintainers* | 16:10 |
| thingee | I know that takesaway what you're trying to do here, but bringing it up | 16:10 |
| timcl | K2 for existing drivers only? What about the new drivers coming in? K2 is going to be a challenge especially with Fibre Channel | 16:10 |
| DuncanT_ | thingee, deprecation or removal... I'll probably put the patches up for removal then convert them to deprecation | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT_: So the expectation is that maintainers are reliably reportng CI results by K-2 ? | 16:10 |
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| DuncanT_ | jungleboyj, For exisiting drivers, yes | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:11 |
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| DuncanT_ | timcl, New drivers maybe target the end of the release? With a hard cutoff of L-2 | 16:11 |
| thingee | Since I know not everyone attends this meeting unfortunately, I think DuncanT_ should also post this to the list. | 16:11 |
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| DuncanT_ | thingee, Will do. I'll email maintainers directly where possible too | 16:12 |
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| thingee | anyone opposed to this, besides there being more work for you? :) | 16:12 |
| timcl | DuncanT_: OK we'll digest that and see where we are in the FC side | 16:12 |
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| DuncanT_ | timcl, Cool. Reach out to me if there are major issues, we can work on them. | 16:12 |
| DuncanT_ | Ok, I think that's me done for this topic. Thanks all | 16:13 |
| timcl | DuncanT_: thx | 16:13 |
| DuncanT_ | Feel free to action me | 16:13 |
| DuncanT_ | #action or whatever | 16:13 |
| thingee | ok I take this silence that people are fine with k-2. this will move on to the mailing list | 16:13 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: end of k-2? | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: +2 | 16:13 |
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| DuncanT_ | End of k-2, yes | 16:14 |
| thingee | #agreed end of k-2 deadline for existing drivers to have a ci | 16:14 |
| thingee | thanks DuncanT_ | 16:14 |
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| thingee | #action DuncanT_ to post to the openstack dev list about ci deadline | 16:14 |
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| thingee | #action DuncanT_ to email existing driver maintainers about ci deadline | 16:15 |
| thingee | #topic Kilo mid-cycle meet-up: | 16:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo mid-cycle meet-up: (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:15 | |
| thingee | jungleboyj: you're up | 16:15 |
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| jungleboyj | Thank you. So, I have started the process of planning the mid-cycle meet-up in Austin: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-kilo-midcycle-meetup | 16:16 |
| thingee | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-kilo-midcycle-meetup | 16:16 |
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| jungleboyj | For room planning I need to get a high estimate of how many people are coming sooner rather than later. | 16:16 |
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| jungleboyj | So, if you think that you have a decent chance of getting travel approved, please put your name in the ether pad. | 16:17 |
| * DuncanT_ is waiting to hear back from management | 16:17 | |
| thingee | jungleboyj: so these are set? | 16:17 |
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| thingee | these dates* | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | I have space for ~20 lined up. If that isn't enough space I will have to get creative. | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | thingee: I thought that was worked best, based on discussion at the Summit. | 16:18 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: yup just making sre | 16:18 |
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| thingee | sure | 16:18 |
| thingee | anteaya: ^ | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | January 27, 28 and 29 for those who weren't aware. | 16:19 |
| thingee | #info dates for meetup is Jan 27-29 2015 | 16:19 |
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| anteaya | yup | 16:19 |
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| thingee | #info room for 20 people sign up now! | 16:19 |
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| jungleboyj | Unfortunately there is another event on site at that time which is why I need to get creative if we ahve more than 20 people. :-) | 16:19 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: anything else? | 16:19 |
| asselin | \o | 16:19 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: can you post this to the mailing list as well? | 16:20 |
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| jungleboyj | I think that is it right now. Sure can. Thanks to those who are already putting their names in! | 16:20 |
| thingee | #action jungleboyj to post to the openstack lists about the meetup | 16:20 |
| winston-d | Dell was also willing to sponse the meetup? | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | We will be covering dinner one night as well. | 16:20 |
| thingee | woot | 16:20 |
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| anteaya | I'll sign up, bump me if you need the space for someone else | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Going to talk to dell and NetApp to see if they want to do dinner on other nights. | 16:20 |
| thingee | anteaya: no way, you're going | 16:21 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: thanks | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Can't have a party without anteaya | 16:21 |
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| jungleboyj | Thank you. | 16:21 |
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| tbarron | jungleboyj: esker said he wanted to sponsor dinner from NetApp one night | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | B there B square. | 16:21 |
| thingee | #topic What to do about cinder.conf.sample | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "What to do about cinder.conf.sample (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:21 | |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Right. | 16:21 |
| thingee | tbarron: awesome! | 16:21 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: you're up again | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:21 |
| anteaya | thingee jungleboyj awwww, thanks | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | So, I don't know what to say here. Just wanted to have the discssion. | 16:22 |
| thingee | do you have the change in question from yesterday? | 16:22 |
| hemna | so whats wrong with cinder.conf.sample right now? | 16:22 |
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| eharney | most recent problem is that dep changes broke it on the stable branch, right? | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | Do we want to do something different or just keep making 1sie 2sie fixes when libraries change? | 16:22 |
| hemna | :( | 16:22 |
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| DuncanT_ | We have the option of removing external libraries for the sample conf | 16:23 |
| eharney | i liked the idea that someone proposed of only generating the sample based on our options and not those from other libraries, which i think helps most of this | 16:23 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: that's what I was wondering too | 16:23 |
| hemna | what external lib broke this ? | 16:23 |
| DuncanT_ | Not ideal, but it solves my (review) usecases | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: +1 | 16:23 |
| ameade_ | eharney: +1 at least | 16:23 |
| akerr | +1 to removing external libs | 16:23 |
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| thingee | eharney: +1 | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: oslo.db | 16:23 |
| hemna | ugh | 16:23 |
| ameade_ | heck i almost think if generating it is easy why dont we just have it generated on install or something? | 16:23 |
| DuncanT_ | Packagers won't like it, but they already have to rebuild for other openstack projects now so it shouldn't be a biggie | 16:24 |
| winston-d | Or, we can stop using check_update.sh in gate | 16:24 |
| ameade_ | and not maintain a generated file in the repo | 16:24 |
| hemna | ameade_, except the purpose of generating it was to verify it in the gate as well | 16:24 |
| hemna | in case drivers made changes and the sample didn't contain those changes | 16:24 |
| DuncanT_ | Being able to see the generated changes is *really* useful when looking for back compat issues | 16:24 |
| hemna | I think it's best to remove those external lib conf entries if possible | 16:24 |
| eharney | yeah, one of the reasons we wanted to keep the generation was to help reviewing | 16:24 |
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| ameade_ | hemna: :but it wouldn't matter if it was generated | 16:24 |
| hemna | maybe put those in another sample that isn't gated | 16:24 |
| thingee | eharney: which change exists to stop generating for external libs? | 16:25 |
| eharney | thingee: i don't know, this was just an idea from Duncan i think? | 16:25 |
| thingee | #idea stop generating cinder.conf.sample based on external libs | 16:25 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: what's the annoyance of this for packagers? | 16:25 |
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| DuncanT_ | thingee, They were initially unhappy about having builddeps on the tools needed to rebuild the sample conf | 16:26 |
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| hemna | if we can put those external lib conf entries in their own sample, then at least those exist somewhere for an admin to lookup. we just don't gate on that other file. | 16:26 |
| e0ne | DuncanT_: +1 | 16:26 |
| DuncanT_ | thingee, But that should be a none-issue now since some projects dropped sample ocnf completely | 16:26 |
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| eharney | hemna: but then we have to figure out how to not have it out of date when the external libs change | 16:26 |
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| DuncanT_ | hemna: An out-of-date file is probably as bad if not worse than no file... packagers can always generate an up-to-date one | 16:27 |
| hemna | :( yah I suppose so. they would have to get regenerated | 16:27 |
| hemna | bleh | 16:27 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: can we get a bug unless it already exists to monitor this? | 16:27 |
| hemna | ok, -1 on my idea then :) | 16:27 |
| thingee | this would be good to target for k-1 | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: Yeah, I can create a bug. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: -1 do your idea. | 16:28 |
| thingee | who wants to take this on? :) | 16:28 |
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| jungleboyj | should I open a bug and see what it takes to jsut remove the external libraries from the generation? | 16:28 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: yea | 16:29 |
| ameade_ | maybe external lib dependencies should be locked down to a version | 16:29 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, +1 | 16:29 |
| ameade_ | so they would have to explicitly change | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: Ok. I will take a look. | 16:29 |
| eharney | ameade_: seems like something to consider for the stable branch, i don't think we can in master | 16:29 |
| hemna | ameade_, I think most are in the requirements.txt | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: +1 | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | I am surprised that we don't lock things down in stable. | 16:29 |
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| eharney | hemna: requirements.txt doesn't restrict upgrades though | 16:29 |
| ameade_ | eharney: why not? | 16:29 |
| thingee | #action jungleboyj to make a bug to for removing external libs from cinder.conf.sample generation | 16:30 |
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| hemna | eharney, even if it has an upper version limit ? | 16:30 |
| eharney | hemna: most don't | 16:30 |
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| hemna | unless someone does a manual pip install I suppose | 16:30 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: anything else? | 16:30 |
| eharney | hemna: it does if we add them, which i think was the proposal | 16:30 |
| e0ne | hemna: how do you propose managa max version? | 16:30 |
| e0ne | s/managa/manage | 16:30 |
| hemna | eharney, I think that's always a good idea to have an upper version limit | 16:31 |
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| jungleboyj | thingee: Nope, we have a direction to try. | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | I will give it a shot and see who cries. | 16:31 |
| hemna | as you don't want a 2.0 upgrading to 3.0 of a package where the api is completely broken | 16:31 |
| eharney | ameade_: i think we'd have to have other projects do the same for gate testing to work | 16:31 |
| flip214 | ----------- people: half the time == half the topics?? | 16:31 |
| thingee | flip214: thanks. | 16:32 |
| thingee | #topic Volume metadata having semantic meaning to Cinder | 16:32 |
| e0ne | hemna: minor version could also break api:( | 16:32 |
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| thingee | DuncanT_: you're up | 16:32 |
| DuncanT_ | Me again? Ok | 16:32 |
| DuncanT_ | So | 16:32 |
| DuncanT_ | Historically speaking, volume metadata had no semantic meaning | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | It is the DuncanT_ and jungleboyj show. | 16:32 |
| DuncanT_ | Cinder (or nova-volumes) never looked at the contents | 16:32 |
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| DuncanT_ | Periodicallly, people try to put values in the that cinder acts on | 16:33 |
| DuncanT_ | Personally, I think this breaks workload portability, and it's a terrible interface | 16:33 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: it might make sense to make a comparison in our dev sphinx doc? | 16:33 |
| DuncanT_ | I'm wondering what others think | 16:33 |
| thingee | that we can point people to | 16:33 |
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| eharney | this concern doesn't apply to admin metadata, right? | 16:34 |
| DuncanT_ | If we want per-volume tuning, I'd rather define a good interface for that | 16:34 |
| DuncanT_ | eharney, Correct | 16:34 |
| hemna | DuncanT_, +1 | 16:34 |
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| eharney | i generally agree with the concern then | 16:34 |
| tbarron | portability seems very important, esp. since we restore volume metadata from backup | 16:34 |
| e0ne | thingee: +1 but will peope read it? | 16:34 |
| DuncanT_ | Note that solidfire, among others, already optionally consumes the volume metadata | 16:34 |
| hemna | we used to store array specific cruft in the volume metadata for us to use at a later date. But we pulled it because it's visible to the user. | 16:34 |
| thingee | e0ne: I just feel like poor DuncanT_ has to explain this over and over :) | 16:35 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:35 |
| DuncanT_ | I can certainly document it if we come to a decision | 16:35 |
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| thingee | DuncanT_: I agree with a good interface for it. what suggestions do you have? | 16:36 |
| DuncanT_ | It needs to be discoverable (since every backend will potentially have at least some unique feature) | 16:36 |
| DuncanT_ | Other than that, I'm not yet sure | 16:36 |
| DuncanT_ | I can have a go at a blueprint, see what I can come up with | 16:37 |
| thingee | sure | 16:37 |
| DuncanT_ | But anybody else with ideas is very, very welcome | 16:37 |
| DuncanT_ | I've plenty on my plate already | 16:37 |
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| hemna | isn't per volume tuning something that volume types are for ? | 16:37 |
| DuncanT_ | Hemna: Yeah, but you can't change the type per volume | 16:37 |
| flip214 | hemna: that would give an explosion of volume types, I believe | 16:37 |
| AmitKDas | discovery seems good..what about updates | 16:37 |
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| hemna | every volume in that type gets the same tuning. | 16:38 |
| DuncanT_ | hemna, Some people want to fine tune QoS and stuff per-volume | 16:38 |
| rushiagr | Personally, I feel as a user, I should get my volumes without any metadata, so that I can play around with it the way I want. | 16:38 |
| DuncanT_ | hemna: Within the limits of the type | 16:38 |
| hemna | yah | 16:38 |
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| DuncanT_ | rushiagr, Agreed | 16:38 |
| winston-d | When QoS spec was implemented, it was created as standalone entity that can be associated with either types or single volume. we can do the same for general per-vol tuning. | 16:38 |
| DuncanT_ | winston-d, That might mean thousands of QoS types though | 16:38 |
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| hemna | DuncanT_, so who is going to create these per volume tuning metrics? the drivers? the admin ? | 16:39 |
| DuncanT_ | hemna: The tenant | 16:39 |
| winston-d | DuncanT_: unfortunately, yes | 16:39 |
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| hemna | hrmm | 16:39 |
| DuncanT_ | hemna: Hence the need for a well designed interface | 16:39 |
| DuncanT_ | hemna: I'm in no rush to get it in, I'd rather get it right | 16:39 |
| DuncanT_ | I just want to stop new drivers copying the couple of old ones that abuse volume metadata | 16:40 |
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| thingee | DuncanT_: I think a write up of the problem might be fine. No solution needed yet. | 16:40 |
| hemna | almost sounds like a temp qos type that's created and applied one time to a single volume. | 16:40 |
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| xyang1 | DuncanT_: will the metadata still be stored as key-value pairs | 16:40 |
| DuncanT_ | xyang1, Don't know yet | 16:40 |
| DuncanT_ | xyang1, I want to stop calling it metadata right now though | 16:41 |
| DuncanT_ | 3 types of metadata is more than enough | 16:41 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: +1 | 16:41 |
| DuncanT_ | Tuning values? | 16:41 |
| hemna | sure | 16:41 |
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| rushiagr | DuncanT_: +1 for stopping calling it metadata | 16:41 |
| rushiagr | 'volume/backend properties' maybe :) | 16:41 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: just write up the problem if you can and link to it on the ML? | 16:42 |
| DuncanT_ | Sure, will do | 16:42 |
| DuncanT_ | I'll also -1 the new driver that is doing the wrong thing | 16:42 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: don't spend time on a solution. I'd rather leave that to the ML discussion | 16:42 |
| DuncanT_ | thingee, Ok | 16:42 |
| thingee | #action DuncanT_ to write up the problem and mention it in the openstack dev ML for discussion | 16:42 |
| flip214 | perhaps a good example implementation would be nice to have? | 16:42 |
| thingee | #topic Discuss how to cleanup stuck volumes (creating/deleting/attaching/detaching) | 16:43 |
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| flip214 | eg. the LVM driver could switch some things in /sys | 16:43 |
| thingee | scottda: you're up | 16:43 |
| scottda | Blueprint is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/reset-state-with-driver | 16:43 |
| DuncanT_ | flip214, I've got no example yet | 16:43 |
| scottda | The bigger problem is that volumes can get stuck in various states: | 16:43 |
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| scottda | creating/deleting/attaching/detaching | 16:43 |
| thingee | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/reset-state-with-driver | 16:43 |
| scottda | and this needs fixing and/or syncing in Cinder DB, the backend storage, Nova DB, | 16:43 |
| scottda | compute host, compute <instance_id>.xml | 16:43 |
| scottda | The blueprint ^^^ is just to modify cinderclient reset-state | 16:43 |
| thingee | #idea reset state should also involve drivers | 16:43 |
| scottda | Currently, reset-state just changes the Cinder DB | 16:43 |
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| flip214 | scottda: how will that interact with DuncanT_'s fine-grained state machine? | 16:43 |
| scottda | which can cause things to break. | 16:43 |
| scottda | Flip214: good question | 16:44 |
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| hemna | this one seems problematic because you don't know if the error was in the cinder code or the backend | 16:44 |
| DuncanT_ | flip214, It will integrate... might add some new states but that is fine | 16:44 |
| scottda | a well-implemented state machine could help to preven these issues... | 16:44 |
| hemna | the error could simply be an artifact of a failure in cinder, in which case the driver has nothing to do. | 16:44 |
| scottda | The idea is that reset-state will call the driver. | 16:44 |
| jbernard | scottda: +1, i see this somewhat frequently in volume migration | 16:44 |
| scottda | The driver would attempt to set the state, and then return, and then the DB would set state. | 16:44 |
| DuncanT_ | hemna: The driver will just be asked if the transition is ok | 16:44 |
| DuncanT_ | hemna: If it has nothing to do, it can just return | 16:44 |
| hemna | DuncanT_, that's not what scottda just said though :( | 16:45 |
| scottda | Well , the drive will attempt to "do the right thing" | 16:45 |
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| hemna | that's the problem | 16:45 |
| scottda | whether that is nothing, or change the state | 16:45 |
| DuncanT_ | hemna: It will always call the driver | 16:45 |
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| hemna | I don't think the driver can really know what to do, if the failure was cinder's alone | 16:45 |
| guitarzan | this is a really good idea that sounds hard :) | 16:45 |
| hemna | the driver will not know what to clean up. | 16:45 |
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| flip214 | scottda: DuncanT_: I meant that the fine-grained state machine might _solve_ the restart-problem? | 16:46 |
| DuncanT_ | hemna: The driver just gets asked 'is it ok to mark this volume as available'? | 16:46 |
| thingee | taking a step back, the original goal of reset state was just to be simple for updating the db. The admin is suppose to be responsible verifying the state of a resource in a backend and then forcing cinder to have it in whatever state after. | 16:46 |
| scottda | if the command is "reset-state available" , the driver should see if it can set state to available | 16:46 |
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| xyang1 | I think this is an important problem to solve. just not sure about the Nova side. If you don't look at the Nova side, the state you reset could still be wrong | 16:46 |
| hemna | thingee, +1 | 16:46 |
| DuncanT_ | thingee, That turns out to be not much use in practice | 16:46 |
| scottda | xyang1: agreed | 16:46 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: not saying it's right, just saying that was the original intent | 16:46 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT_: I disagree, it's pretty useful when nova/cinder interactions break down | 16:46 |
| scottda | But the complete solution is much more complicated. | 16:46 |
| DuncanT_ | thingee, Agreed | 16:46 |
| scottda | thingee: perhaps a new command or API then? | 16:47 |
| DuncanT_ | guitarzan, Only for a tiny subset of cases, or where you go kick the backend by hand | 16:47 |
| scottda | I'm more interested in a solution to the problem than how it gets done | 16:47 |
| DuncanT_ | We can keep the old behaviour too | 16:47 |
| thingee | scottda: I agree. I'd rather not change original behavior to be done by --force | 16:47 |
| DuncanT_ | --force or somethign | 16:47 |
| hemna | I think this one needs to be thought out more. It seems like a rathole that could lead to more trouble. | 16:47 |
| thingee | scottda: I would've like it that way originally though :) | 16:47 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT_: nah, whenever nova fails to attach, cinder is still in attaching | 16:47 |
| guitarzan | we might actually see that problem more than most though | 16:47 |
| xyang1 | if attach volume times out, the volume will be back to 'available', but the array continues with attach and volume can be attached to the host. so it is out of sync | 16:47 |
| hemna | xyang1, +1 | 16:47 |
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| DuncanT_ | guitarzan, yes, but if the backend has opened targets and such, then it is wrong to just mark it available again | 16:48 |
| TobiasE1 | xyang, +1 | 16:48 |
| flip214 | -------------- only 11 mins left | 16:48 |
| hemna | if nova pukes on attaching, then it tells cinder to reset it back to available. | 16:48 |
| scottda | I've written an environment-specific solution, and it is 3000 lines of code.... | 16:48 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT_: that's true | 16:48 |
| DuncanT_ | guitarzan, The targets should be torn down first | 16:48 |
| thingee | flip214: the last topic will be quick :) | 16:48 |
| scottda | so this is not an easy problem to solve. | 16:48 |
| flip214 | thingee: 2 more topics. | 16:48 |
| DuncanT_ | guitarzan, Just about every possible transition has similar issues | 16:48 |
| hemna | if it doesn't, that's a nova problem, and asking a driver the question can I move it to available it the wrong thing to do. | 16:48 |
| scottda | So where is the best place to carry on this discussion? | 16:48 |
| guitarzan | with the caveat that some drivers do the export stuff on create anyway | 16:48 |
| scottda | ML? | 16:48 |
| thingee | flip214: doh thanks | 16:48 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT_: sure, I'm just saying it's far from useless | 16:48 |
| xyang1 | so in this case, we need to do something from the Nova side, 'available' is definitely wrong | 16:48 |
| DuncanT_ | guitarzan, In which case, they can just return 'ok' for all transitions. | 16:48 |
| DuncanT_ | xyang1, If you can tear down the targets while they are in use, the available is fine | 16:49 |
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| guitarzan | yeah, there's several cases that seem like we could handle | 16:49 |
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| scottda | I can document more use cases, perhaps on the wiki, and then send out something on the ML | 16:49 |
| thingee | scottda: can we involve the nova folks on this? perhaps discussion of at least [cinder][nova] in the ML? | 16:49 |
| flip214 | scottda: +1 | 16:49 |
| thingee | scottda: +1 | 16:49 |
| DuncanT_ | Document them in the BP | 16:50 |
| hemna | DuncanT_, +1 | 16:50 |
| scottda | thingee: yes | 16:50 |
| guitarzan | nova is certainly aainvolved | 16:50 |
| thingee | DuncanT_: not a spec? | 16:50 |
| hemna | and/or in the cinder-spec | 16:50 |
| scottda | There is a spec | 16:50 |
| DuncanT_ | Spec, sorry, yes | 16:50 |
| scottda | I'll put the use cases there | 16:50 |
| thingee | scottda: thanks | 16:50 |
| scottda | Ok, thans all | 16:50 |
| scottda | s/thans/thanks | 16:50 |
| DuncanT_ | Nova might need a similar call too, but cinder generally can make some decisions | 16:50 |
| thingee | #action scottda to document more use cases and most the openstack dev ML to involve nova folks | 16:50 |
| thingee | #topic Are changes to the Cinder V1 API still worth the trouble? | 16:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Are changes to the Cinder V1 API still worth the trouble? (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:51 | |
| thingee | pwehrle: you're up | 16:51 |
| pwehrle | Hi all | 16:51 |
| pwehrle | more of a confused noob's question, really | 16:51 |
| thingee | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132657/ | 16:51 |
| pwehrle | I was encouraged by my upstream training mentor to ask it here to make sure the response is a unanimous "no" | 16:51 |
| * jungleboyj gives a unanimous no | 16:51 | |
| pwehrle | came across the problem with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133383/, felt kind of bad not fixing it for v1 | 16:51 |
| thingee | pwehrle: I have spoke to smcginnis, and v1 changes were removed | 16:51 |
| thingee | pwehrle: v1 will be gone in K | 16:52 |
| DuncanT_ | No new features in V1 | 16:52 |
| pwehrle | thingee: I read that | 16:52 |
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| thingee | pwehrle: I'm fine with bug fixes, just no new features | 16:52 |
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| pwehrle | thingee: thanks for making it clear | 16:52 |
| thingee | pwehrle: this is the same policy across other projects | 16:52 |
| DuncanT_ | If we're having to change the catalogue format, then I'm not sure about removing it in K, but that's a separate arguement | 16:52 |
| pwehrle | OK, that works for me | 16:53 |
| guitarzan | do most apis allow both name/id? is that not just a clent feature? | 16:53 |
| guitarzan | names aren't unique, this one specifically seems like a bad idea | 16:53 |
| thingee | guitarzan: that's a good question. I'm only aware of clients doing this | 16:53 |
| winston-d | guitarzan: +1, uuid only | 16:53 |
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| DuncanT_ | guitarzan, Without good server-side search, doing it on the client is hard - you might have thousands of images | 16:53 |
| guitarzan | this should just be a non controversial cinderclient patch | 16:53 |
| thingee | for example, you can with the nova client | 16:53 |
| eharney | guitarzan: i think some APIs allow either and return a server error if the search is ambiguous | 16:53 |
| guitarzan | DuncanT_: we'd have to do that on the api side anyway | 16:53 |
| guitarzan | eharney: ah, ok, I think that's nuts, but ok :) | 16:54 |
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| eharney | but i could be thinking about a Nova API, i forget.. | 16:54 |
| hemna | if you look at the client help for cinder, the volume_type param seems ambiguous during volume create. It's not clear if it's name of uuid or both. | 16:54 |
| DuncanT_ | guitarzan, If we add a good search API then client side is fine for me | 16:54 |
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| thingee | #topic Backport NFS security bugfix to stable/juno and stable/icehouse | 16:54 |
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| thingee | bswartz: you're up | 16:54 |
| bswartz | hey guys | 16:54 |
| thingee | link? | 16:54 |
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| bswartz | I've been poking various people to find out how they feel about backporting this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107693/ | 16:54 |
| thingee | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107693/ | 16:55 |
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| bswartz | it's a bug, but it's a significant change | 16:55 |
| hemna | it's a big patch :( | 16:55 |
| eharney | the main question i have there is do we also end up backporting the similar fixes for other *FS drivers | 16:55 |
| bswartz | whether the bug deserves to be called a "security bug" is arguable | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: There is a lot of test code in there too. | 16:55 |
| bswartz | but if you feel it is a security issue, then a backport should be seriously considered | 16:56 |
| hemna | sure, but tests don't always get the bugs that are harder to find with these large patches | 16:56 |
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| thingee | bswartz: my thought, it does little to cinder core, so I'm not as concerned. if the other nfs folks want to spend time on this, I'm fine with that. | 16:56 |
| bswartz | in all my 1on1 conversations, people suggested that I bring the issue to the whole group | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Just saying a good number of the lines are in test files. | 16:56 |
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| hemna | true | 16:56 |
| thingee | but I'm really going to rely on others to tell me this is fine for their drivers | 16:56 |
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| bswartz | okay | 16:56 |
| DuncanT_ | I think the stable guys would want strong by-in from core on a change this big | 16:57 |
| * jungleboyj was the one suggesting that. | 16:57 | |
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| hemna | I'm afraid of these large changes getting backported. but that's just me. | 16:57 |
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| bswartz | the stable guys include thingee, jgriffith, and jungleboyj | 16:57 |
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| bswartz | so they can speak on behalf of cinder | 16:57 |
| eharney | it's not very obvious that it would be worthwhile to backport IMO | 16:57 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: I talked to him about it for a while last week. I am ok with it if it is a pretty clean backport. | 16:57 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: did someone from your team try it? | 16:58 |
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| bswartz | okay I'm hearing enough positive remarks that we'll go ahead and do the backport, and do the rest of the argument in the code review for the backport | 16:58 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: Not yet. jgriffith looked at it. | 16:58 |
| thingee | jungleboyj: jgriffith doesn't have a driver with nfs to try. | 16:58 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: Touche. | 16:58 |
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| eharney | so when we make the same fix for the GlusterFS driver, will people be ok with backporting it as well? | 16:58 |
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| bswartz | eharney: when a backport patch lands I'll make sure you're a reviewer on it | 16:59 |
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| jungleboyj | thingee: I will need to have our SONAS guy take a look at this. | 16:59 |
| thingee | eharney: I won't be opposed | 16:59 |
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| thingee | bswartz: thanks | 16:59 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: +1 | 16:59 |
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| bswartz | thanks for squishing all the agenda items into 1 hour thingee! | 16:59 |
| thingee | :) | 17:00 |
| thingee | thanks everyone | 17:00 |
| thingee | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 17:00:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | I hate seeing this big a patch backported but at the same time. I think it is worth considering. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2014/cinder.2014-11-19-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2014/cinder.2014-11-19-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2014/cinder.2014-11-19-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: +1 | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | Good meeting all! | 17:00 |
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| tjones | #startmeeting vmwareapi | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 19 17:00:23 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tjones. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| rushiagr | o/ | 17:00 |
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| tjones | hi folks - anyone here? | 17:00 |
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| tjones | zzzzzz | 17:02 |
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| tjones | listens to crickets | 17:04 |
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| * rushiagr "o/" was for the last meeting | 17:06 | |
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| Arkady_Kanevsky | are we cindering along | 17:06 |
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| tjones | no this is vmwareapi but no one is here :-) | 17:07 |
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| Arkady_Kanevsky | Do folks want to update the status of their CI as currenly reported on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder/third-party-ci-status | 17:07 |
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| dims | tjones: pong :) | 17:09 |
| tjones | hey dims | 17:09 |
| tjones | it's just you and me | 17:09 |
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| tjones | well with just you and me i think it will be a short meeting | 17:10 |
| tjones | which is good cause i am in 2 meetings at once | 17:11 |
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| tjones | the last patch for spbm looks like it landed | 17:12 |
| tjones | dims without tflower and arnuad there is nothing to talk abut on the multiple disk ova spec | 17:12 |
| tjones | anything you wanted to talk about specifically? | 17:12 |
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| dims | tjones: nope, i am good. just did not want you to feel alone :) | 17:13 |
| tjones | thanks nice of you. not sure what happened to the rest. perhaps i need to remind them that this meeting is in UTC time | 17:13 |
| dims | yep | 17:14 |
| tjones | i missed it last week cause i forgot myself :-) | 17:14 |
| tjones | ok lets end then. thanks dims for hanging out with me | 17:14 |
| tjones | #endmeeting | 17:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 17:14:51 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-11-19-17.00.html | 17:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-11-19-17.00.txt | 17:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vmwareapi/2014/vmwareapi.2014-11-19-17.00.log.html | 17:14 |
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| rgerganov_ | tjones: are we going to have a meeting? | 18:02 |
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| tjones | yes - it was at 9am :-) it's in UTC time | 18:03 |
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| tjones | dims and i were the only ones here | 18:03 |
| rgerganov_ | huh | 18:03 |
| rgerganov_ | sorry for missing it | 18:03 |
| tjones | not sure if there is another meeting here | 18:03 |
| tjones | noe | 18:03 |
| tjones | now | 18:03 |
| tjones | anyone else here for vmwareapi meeting? | 18:04 |
| garyk | i am here - confused about time | 18:04 |
| tjones | lol | 18:04 |
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| freemabr | I was planning on lurking | 18:04 |
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| tjones | well last week i forgot and came at 10 and no one was here. then i rememberd the rest of the world does not have day lights savings | 18:04 |
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| freemabr | I saw it started at 10 last week so I wasn't sure if the wiki was wrong... | 18:05 |
| rgerganov_ | tjones: so the vmware meeting is at 19:00 UTC ? | 18:05 |
| tjones | yes | 18:05 |
| rgerganov_ | ok, I will know from now on :) | 18:06 |
| tjones | anyway - we are here. shall we meet quickly? | 18:06 |
| freemabr | garyk: did you receive my email with the link to my bp for application-consistent-snapshot? | 18:06 |
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| garyk | freemabr: yes. i have | 18:06 |
| garyk | i still need to go over it - sorry a bit crazy at the moment | 18:07 |
| tjones | freemabr: is that something you are targetting for kilo? | 18:07 |
| tjones | can you add it to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/VMwareapi-kilo | 18:07 |
| rgerganov_ | I have rebased and reposted the patches for vSAN support | 18:07 |
| freemabr | sure, thx, intially I was only targeting libvirt | 18:08 |
| tjones | great - it looks like the last patch for SPBM has landed - is that really the end of that feature? | 18:08 |
| freemabr | garyk: cool, just wanted to make sure I had the correct email address | 18:08 |
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| rgerganov_ | tjones: we have 3 more: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/vmware-spbm-support,n,z | 18:09 |
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| tjones | thanks rgerganov_ i added the link | 18:10 |
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| tjones | so K-1 is in 1 month | 18:10 |
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| tjones | we wanted to get the 4 fasttrack features in by then | 18:10 |
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| tjones | what do you guys think - going to make it? | 18:11 |
| rgerganov_ | I will do my best for vSAN | 18:12 |
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| rgerganov_ | garyk is rebasing and reviewing 24/7 as always :) | 18:12 |
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| tjones | garyk: looks like you are making progress on yours? | 18:12 |
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| tjones | anything you guys need help with? | 18:13 |
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| rgerganov_ | tjones: there is an issue with MS | 18:15 |
| tjones | yes - it was down as of yesterday - the guys are working on it | 18:15 |
| rgerganov_ | last time I checked stack.sh was always failing | 18:15 |
| rgerganov_ | tjones: ok, great | 18:15 |
| tjones | yeah slow going | 18:15 |
| rgerganov_ | anything else? | 18:16 |
| tjones | not from me. | 18:17 |
| tjones | so next week we will meet at 19:00 ? | 18:17 |
| rgerganov_ | actually the wiki says 17:00 UTC | 18:18 |
| rgerganov_ | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/VMwareAPI | 18:18 |
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| rgerganov_ | maybe we just need to keep the "Next Meeting" section up to date linking timeanddate.com | 18:19 |
| tjones | good idea | 18:19 |
| tjones | sorry about that | 18:19 |
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| rgerganov_ | ok, I need to go; for the next week let just use the time/date from the wiki | 18:21 |
| tjones | ok | 18:21 |
| tjones | c ya | 18:21 |
| rgerganov_ | have a good one | 18:21 |
| rgerganov_ | bye | 18:21 |
| tjones | you too | 18:21 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 19:00 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 19 19:00:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 19:01 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift meeting? | 19:01 |
| swifterdarrell | o/ | 19:01 |
| zaitcev | o7 | 19:01 |
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| tsg_ | \o | 19:01 |
| lpabon | hi | 19:01 |
| mahatic | o/ | 19:01 |
| acoles | here | 19:01 |
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| peluse | yo | 19:01 |
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| notmyname | welcome :-) | 19:01 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 19:01 |
| notmyname | several general things to go over this week and a few bigger ones | 19:02 |
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| notmyname | first up, meeting time. note (for those of us in the US) the meeting time is based on UTC, so it's an hour earlier now | 19:02 |
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| notmyname | still 1900UTC | 19:02 |
| notmyname | #topic paris feedback | 19:03 |
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| zaitcev | I was able to enter the meeting into Zimbra in UTC, so I'm good with reminders | 19:03 |
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| notmyname | what did you think of the paris summit? what was good, what was bad? | 19:03 |
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| peluse | so maybe just me but I think the design session have gotten to big to be run as design sessions | 19:03 |
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| acoles | peluse: agree | 19:04 |
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| peluse | maybe 'tech talks' would be better, have fewer of them and more time alotted for open discussion/hackathon style work like Fri morning was | 19:04 |
| notmyname | peluse: that's an interesting idea. I like it | 19:04 |
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| lpabon | peluse: i like that also | 19:04 |
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| * notmyname is taking notes | 19:06 | |
| notmyname | what else? | 19:06 |
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| notmyname | scheduling? location? topics? content? conference part? | 19:06 |
| peluse | I think it felt a lot like the last summit wrt logistics, worked OK for me. Conf floor was a bit crowded but I suppose thats a good thing :) | 19:07 |
| lpabon | i thought all in all it went well | 19:07 |
| tdasilva | I kinda expected more from the dev ops session, not sure if it was a timing thing where we left it for the last session of the day | 19:07 |
| notmyname | I liked the venue better than atlanta (and many of the previous) since the summit sessions were in the same hotel and not blocks away | 19:08 |
| swifterdarrell | notmyname: i was kinda sad the wide-open Fri. morning thing was at the very end (also having so many different groups in one large room sucked) | 19:08 |
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| lpabon | swifterdarrell: yes, Cinder + Swift in the same room sucked | 19:08 |
| notmyname | swifterdarrell: +1 | 19:08 |
| tdasilva | swifterdarrell: aggree | 19:08 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: so maybe getting more involved n the official ops tracks? my struggle there is that those have a lot of emphasis on nova/neutron | 19:09 |
| tdasilva | yeah...not sure...i think we basically only heard from briancline | 19:09 |
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| notmyname | I went to the "user survey feedback" session, and it was just "make nova and neutron not break" | 19:09 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: yeah, I think we had a better ops session in the past | 19:09 |
| tdasilva | :/ | 19:10 |
| notmyname | any ideas on how to make that better (the ops session)? | 19:10 |
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| notmyname | a structured set of questions to ask? commitments to get people in the room? | 19:11 |
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| swifterdarrell | notmyname: create and maintain a list of swift operators and badger them to be there and participate? | 19:11 |
| tdasilva | humm...i was wondering if it was a timing issue where we only had developers left | 19:11 |
| notmyname | it it even needed? | 19:11 |
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| swifterdarrell | tdasilva: (seems quite possible) | 19:11 |
| tdasilva | maybe it needs to be earlier in the week | 19:11 |
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| tdasilva | but that's a good question: is it even needed? helpful? can we learn anything from them? | 19:12 |
| zaitcev | I do think that ops session is needed and at least those I attended (didn't go to Paris) were useful for me as a guidance. I was this close to trying and making a whole new logger direct to files and ops told me to can it. That was guidance. | 19:12 |
| swifterdarrell | tdasilva: notmyname: if there aren't operators with feedback they want to give back to the devs, then it's not needed... but I find it hard to believe that's the case | 19:12 |
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| swifterdarrell | zaitcev: +1 | 19:13 |
| notmyname | yeah, I totally think ops feedback is crucial. and I've liked in the past to have a forum. but there are other forums now (with arguable benefit). | 19:13 |
| notmyname | IMO we should keep scheduling a swift-specific one, even if not specifically in the "swift track". and we attend and get others there | 19:14 |
| swifterdarrell | notmyname: +1 | 19:14 |
| tdasilva | +1 | 19:14 |
| notmyname | what other feedback from the summit/conference? | 19:14 |
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| tdasilva | food was great! :-) | 19:15 |
| tdasilva | not the conf. food btw | 19:15 |
| notmyname | heh | 19:15 |
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| notmyname | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIr7I80Leee7CSbRGL7q_3ftFD8a4i4dI <-- conference videos about swift. I think there might have been a few others that I need to add | 19:16 |
| notmyname | s/think/know/ | 19:16 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ya, parisian food was very nice | 19:16 |
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| notmyname | next summit is in vancouver and the one after is in tokyo | 19:16 |
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| notmyname | anything else before we move on? | 19:17 |
| gvernik | notmyname: you can add there my Spark thing, it also about Swift | 19:17 |
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| notmyname | gvernik: ya, there are at least 3 more that need to be added | 19:17 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: I also had a vbrownbag tech talk about swift + swiftonfile in case you want to add | 19:17 |
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| notmyname | https://gist.github.com/notmyname/d710d3775ad0d585c851 | 19:17 |
| notmyname | ^ raw list of youtube links | 19:18 |
| lpabon | notmyname: some feedback on the openstack food. I was told that the Vegeterian selection was extremly lacking, again. Seems that OpenStack summit needs to put more effort around this.. I am not sure if you can talk to the "powers that be" about this | 19:18 |
| notmyname | lpabon: ack | 19:18 |
| notmyname | and noted | 19:18 |
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| notmyname | there have been some conversations (mailing list and meetings) about the summit. I'll try to jump in with your feedback. thanks! | 19:20 |
| notmyname | please feel free to email me or say something in IRC if you have other comments | 19:20 |
| notmyname | me@not.mn | 19:20 |
| notmyname | moving on then | 19:20 |
| notmyname | #topic OPW project | 19:20 |
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| notmyname | so there's this thing called the "Gnome Outreach Program for Women" | 19:21 |
| notmyname | it's an internship style thing | 19:21 |
| notmyname | where people work on a project in an open-source project | 19:21 |
| notmyname | mahatic applied and was accepted to work on swift for the December-March OPW term | 19:21 |
| peluse | cool | 19:22 |
| notmyname | mahatic: welcome and congrats! | 19:22 |
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| mahatic | and from this round its only "outreach program", everyone other than men are welcome to apply :) | 19:22 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 19:22 |
| notmyname | mahatic: ah. thansk :-) | 19:22 |
| acoles | mahatic: congrats | 19:22 |
| mahatic | thank you! a big one, for taking time out for the whole process! | 19:22 |
| notmyname | mahatic will be initially working on a checker tool that a few of us have talked about. to probe the cluster to verify that things are good (eg read the ring and to OPTIONS requests to the servers) | 19:23 |
| mahatic | thanks acoles! | 19:23 |
| mahatic | mattoliverau, hello! have fun at your vacation | 19:23 |
| notmyname | mahatic: any questions or other things that need to be brought up? | 19:24 |
| mahatic | not really. I'll be hanging around quite a bit and will try to ask only sensible questions :) Please do correct me | 19:25 |
| mahatic | me in any case* | 19:25 |
| mattoliverau | mahatic: still on holidays, so not quite so good at timezones :p | 19:25 |
| notmyname | #topic new specs guidelines | 19:25 |
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| mahatic | mattoliverau, yeah, got that :D | 19:26 |
| notmyname | the swift-specs repo has been an experiment, and we put together some guidelines (actually written down now) at the summit | 19:26 |
| notmyname | I hope you've seen them, but if not here's the summary | 19:26 |
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| notmyname | merge specs early and often. when you and a reviewer agree on something merge that part of it | 19:27 |
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| notmyname | if you +1/+2 a spec, you're giving a promise to review the patch when it comes around (or at least we can all bug you about it) | 19:27 |
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| notmyname | and, importantly, specs aren't to be the final docs for a feature. specs are a place to collaborate on design and are living documents | 19:28 |
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| notmyname | related to that, we wrote down that docs must land before or with a patch. you can't land a big patch with a promise to write the docs later (thanks swifterdarrell) | 19:29 |
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| zaitcev | heh | 19:29 |
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| notmyname | that's the summary, and there is one small change to the organization of the specs repo | 19:29 |
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| notmyname | now there are 2 high-level folders | 19:29 |
| peluse | all sounds great | 19:29 |
| notmyname | in-progress and done | 19:29 |
| notmyname | "done" is for stuff that has had the related patch merged. think of it as a way to "archive" (pejoratively, trash) the document to get it out of the way for in progress stuff | 19:30 |
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| notmyname | so eg once EC lands (with its docs!) then the spec can move to the done folder | 19:30 |
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| notmyname | make sense to everyone? | 19:31 |
| tdasilva | yep | 19:31 |
| mattoliverau | Yup, sounds great | 19:31 |
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| acoles | thats what i remember we said in paris | 19:31 |
| notmyname | importantly, keep in mind that the tool is to help us be better. don't worry about how other people are doing it, other than to learn what works and doesn't | 19:32 |
| notmyname | so if something works, let's do more of it. if it doesn't work, let's change | 19:32 |
| peluse | very goodpoint | 19:32 |
| swifterdarrell | sounds great to me! | 19:32 |
| notmyname | any questions about any of that? | 19:32 |
| zaitcev | Okay, I avoided specs until now, but I'll give it a try by putting the Account/Object-in-Kinetic into a spec. | 19:32 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: cool. that'd be great | 19:33 |
| * notmyname didn't know you were working on that | 19:33 | |
| tdasilva | what is that? | 19:33 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: read the spec ;-) | 19:33 |
| tdasilva | curious to see the spec now | 19:33 |
| tdasilva | lol | 19:33 |
| notmyname | (when zaitcev writes it) | 19:33 |
| zaitcev | uh-oh | 19:34 |
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| notmyname | lol | 19:34 |
| acoles | :) | 19:34 |
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| notmyname | ok, next up | 19:34 |
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| notmyname | #topic docs change | 19:34 |
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| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135102/ | 19:34 |
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| notmyname | the docs team (ping annegentle) has made some changes in how docs are organized in order to deal with the scale of the number of projects | 19:35 |
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| notmyname | summary is that some of the api docs are moving into project repos instead of being in the docs repos | 19:35 |
| notmyname | that patch above is a copy/paste of the existing stuff into our swift repo | 19:36 |
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| notmyname | which means that (1) we'll be responsible for it and (2) it will be available from swift.openstack.org along with all the other dev docs we have | 19:36 |
| peluse | looking for a rubber stamp or want one of to double check the copy n paste? | 19:36 |
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| notmyname | peluse: mostly rubber stamp to get it moved. it does need to be reviewed for accuracy | 19:37 |
| zaitcev | rgr | 19:37 |
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| notmyname | ie if we're directly responsible for maintaining it now, we need to ensure it reflects what we believe to be true | 19:38 |
| peluse | thunk... (done). I'll read it while driving home later today | 19:38 |
| acoles | peluse: ! | 19:38 |
| notmyname | hopefully not while behind the wheel! | 19:38 |
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| peluse | :) Seriously though, I will buid and read and post anything that looks off as a new patch | 19:39 |
| notmyname | thanks | 19:39 |
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| notmyname | ...swanky intel jobs... | 19:39 |
| notmyname | #topic EC status update | 19:39 |
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| peluse | :) free beer in the back of my limo | 19:39 |
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| notmyname | a flurry of activity around EC lately (yay!) | 19:39 |
| acoles | notmyname: did/does annegentle's team have tech writers that generate/maintain these docs or do we now get to write our best prose | 19:39 |
| notmyname | peluse: can you give an update on current EC status and key patches to review? | 19:40 |
| zaitcev | I'm going to focus on not letting any lies in, the prose is for someone else | 19:40 |
| peluse | sure... trello is up to date https://trello.com/b/LlvIFIQs/swift-erasure-codes for those interested | 19:40 |
| notmyname | acoles: I don't think they did. and we always get to do our best with the prose | 19:40 |
| notmyname | zaitcev: ;-) | 19:40 |
| peluse | and the priority review page is also up to date | 19:40 |
| notmyname | peluse: good | 19:41 |
| notmyname | thanks | 19:41 |
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| peluse | I'm in the middle of implementing some proto work for the portions of the reconstructor that we didn't anticpate being so complex - basically rebalance | 19:41 |
| notmyname | clayg and torgomatic are both now working on it here (swiftstack) as a top priority | 19:41 |
| peluse | sounds like clayg is getting a jumpstart on GET which is awesome | 19:42 |
| notmyname | ok | 19:42 |
| peluse | timing should be good because the reconstructor will depend on the GET patch for the next phase (actual reconstruction) | 19:42 |
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| notmyname | we've been doing EC a little differently that we did storage policies. SP had a "demoable" version pretty quickly and we had a tough slog at the end. EC is doing a lot of the very hard groundwork up front, but it feels slower because we don't even have read/write done yet | 19:43 |
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| peluse | I hear ya | 19:43 |
| notmyname | I'm not sure if that's better or worse, and I'm not looking for an answer right here right now, but it's somehting to think about | 19:44 |
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| peluse | there's a shitload of behind the scenes stuff for sure. The big win right now is the dependency, pyeclib , the guys did a great job having that ready in time for us to start putting meat behind PUT/GET and the reconstructor | 19:44 |
| notmyname | peluse: beyond "review EC patches", what's the current blocker? | 19:44 |
| tsg_ | notmyname: I posted an EC policy patch for review yesterday and have the .durable + HEAD stuff coming up (WIP posted yesterday) | 19:44 |
| notmyname | tsg_: nice! | 19:45 |
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| peluse | ah yes, tsg, I spaced that but that is also critical as the PUT path really isn't done w/o it | 19:45 |
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| peluse | i hate "big bang" stuff like this but honestly the real functionality is going to happen in sorta that fashion.... | 19:46 |
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| notmyname | ok | 19:46 |
| peluse | unlike SP by its nature | 19:46 |
| notmyname | I think the important thing is to properly set expectations. a big bang isn't bad if people know that | 19:46 |
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| notmyname | peluse: anything else on EC for today? | 19:47 |
| peluse | don't think so, no. any questions from anyone? | 19:47 |
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| peluse | notmyname, just saw your question wrt current blocker... just reviews and coding right now... | 19:48 |
| notmyname | ok | 19:48 |
| peluse | churn and burn baby | 19:48 |
| notmyname | #topic priority reviews | 19:48 |
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| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 19:48 |
| acoles | peluse: i will try to carve out some EC review time over next few days | 19:48 |
| notmyname | I updated this yesterday (monday?) with some of the active things that have been proposed since the summit | 19:48 |
| zaitcev | Kota and Gil are still on huh | 19:49 |
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| notmyname | the fsync() on dirs and the splice one are interesting | 19:49 |
| notmyname | ya, kota's has one +2 | 19:49 |
| peluse | acoles, thanks! concurrent GET would be a good/fairly quick one (on the prioirty review page) | 19:49 |
| acoles | peluse: k | 19:49 |
| notmyname | and the migration middleware ( gvernik) tends to cause passions to rise | 19:50 |
| gvernik | i am working to implement changes we discussed with Clay in Paris. Will submit another patch very soon | 19:50 |
| notmyname | ok | 19:50 |
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| notmyname | so that being said, take a look at stuff on that page :-) | 19:50 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussions | 19:50 |
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| notmyname | anything else to bring up and discuss here in the meeting this week? | 19:50 |
| mattoliverau | peluse: thanks for working on the concurrent reads while I've been away | 19:51 |
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| peluse | mattoliverau, no prob, I didn't do much :) | 19:51 |
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| notmyname | if there's nothing else, let's adjourn. | 19:52 |
| peluse | rock n roll... later | 19:52 |
| clayg | got here just in time | 19:52 |
| notmyname | thanks everyone for coming. and thanks for working on Swift! | 19:52 |
| peluse | heh | 19:52 |
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| notmyname | #endmeeting | 19:52 |
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| tspatzier | hi | 20:00 |
| cutforth | hello | 20:01 |
| zaneb | o/ | 20:01 |
| skraynev_ | hello all | 20:01 |
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| asalkeld | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda | 20:01 |
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| asalkeld | #topic review last actions | 20:02 |
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| stevebaker | that would be pre-summit actions | 20:02 |
| asalkeld | egh, it's been such a long time - not sure this is relervant | 20:02 |
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| asalkeld | lets moveon | 20:03 |
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| asalkeld | #topic add items to the agenda | 20:03 |
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| asalkeld | anything new? | 20:03 |
| inc0 | convergence syncup is scheduled after meeting right? | 20:04 |
| asalkeld | yip | 20:04 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: RPC exceptions | 20:04 |
| asalkeld | ok | 20:04 |
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| asalkeld | #topic Critical issues sync | 20:04 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: Ah, also the plan re RPC versioning and versioned objects would be good to clarify | 20:04 |
| stevebaker | +1 | 20:05 |
| asalkeld | sure shardy | 20:05 |
| skraynev_ | inc0: syncup will be on this channel? | 20:05 |
| inc0 | skraynev_, I think #heat | 20:05 |
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| asalkeld | skraynev_ #heat | 20:05 |
| asalkeld | no critical bugs? | 20:05 |
| skraynev_ | got it, thx | 20:06 |
| pas-ha | o/ | 20:06 |
| asalkeld | ok moving on | 20:06 |
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| asalkeld | #topic Organize a bug cleanup day | 20:06 |
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| asalkeld | therve raised this at summit | 20:06 |
| stevebaker | seems like a good idea | 20:07 |
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| asalkeld | this is more cleaning up old bugs that are not relervent | 20:07 |
| inc0 | let me jump in a bit please, in glance there was bug cleanup day | 20:07 |
| ryansb | does cleanup == triage ? | 20:07 |
| shardy | There's a huge number of old blueprints too | 20:07 |
| asalkeld | yeah | 20:07 |
| inc0 | its about tagging, triaging, confirming, setting priority | 20:07 |
| stevebaker | could we use this chance to abandon ancient changes too? with a nice message | 20:07 |
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| asalkeld | sure | 20:08 |
| asalkeld | maybe make an entherpad and propose blueprints to die? | 20:08 |
| shardy | stevebaker: +1000 | 20:08 |
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| inc0 | asalkeld, what about discussing it ad hoc here at irc? | 20:09 |
| asalkeld | sure | 20:09 |
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| stevebaker | How about the 26th to do this? next week | 20:09 |
| inc0 | if we'll all be focused on this, it should be pretty efficient | 20:09 |
| asalkeld | so is one day enough | 20:09 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker, shardy: what would we want to abandon that isn't auto-abandoned already? | 20:09 |
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| shardy | zaneb: there is no auto-abandon anymore AFAIK | 20:10 |
| inc0 | one workday in every tz | 20:10 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: auto abandon hasn't been a thing for many months | 20:10 |
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| zaneb | orly? | 20:10 |
| ryansb | Thanksgiving is on the 27th, so many US folks will be travelling, FWIW | 20:10 |
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| asalkeld | zaneb, we need to do auto abandon's job now | 20:10 |
| shardy | so there's stuff sitting there for months with negative feedback and no updates from the owner | 20:10 |
| inc0 | 3rd dec? | 20:10 |
| asalkeld | i'll be traveling | 20:10 |
| asalkeld | (3-6 | 20:10 |
| shardy | zaneb: It's been discussed (again) on the ML recently, some folks like crufty old patches, apparently | 20:11 |
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| stevebaker | 2nd dec? | 20:11 |
| zaneb | weirdos | 20:11 |
| asalkeld | i am more in favor of doing this over a week - not sure it can be done in a day | 20:11 |
| inc0 | or 1st, monday - everyone hates mondays so will try to get over with this asap;) | 20:11 |
| asalkeld | lol | 20:11 |
| stevebaker | inc0: that is my Sunday | 20:11 |
| mdulko | Why not 24th or 25th? | 20:12 |
| asalkeld | ok let's make it the 2nd | 20:12 |
| stevebaker | inc0: oh, I mean Tuesday. as you were | 20:12 |
| asalkeld | and see how it goes | 20:12 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: want to send out an announcement? | 20:12 |
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| asalkeld | #action asalkeld to send out an announcement about the bug cleanup day | 20:13 |
| asalkeld | #topic https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 20:13 |
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| asalkeld | please have a look ^ | 20:13 |
| asalkeld | is randall about? | 20:14 |
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| skraynev_ | I still think about API :) | 20:14 |
| asalkeld | we need a stable branch liaison | 20:14 |
| zaneb | asalkeld: I can take stable branch if you like | 20:14 |
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| asalkeld | cool, just put your name there | 20:14 |
| asalkeld | Vulnerability management | 20:14 |
| asalkeld | any takers? | 20:15 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Why do we need a liason for that when there's already a dedicated sub-team? | 20:15 |
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| skraynev_ | shardy: I supppose it's just contanc person | 20:15 |
| asalkeld | shardy, cos' it's on the page and someone is asking? | 20:15 |
| pas-ha | shardy, laison maintains the members of the $PROJECT-coresec team i | 20:15 |
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| stevebaker | someone involved in running a public heat endpoint would be ideal for vuln management | 20:16 |
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| asalkeld | agree, anyone from rax here? | 20:16 |
| jasond` | asalkeld: me | 20:16 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Sure, I'm just saying it doesn't make much sense, beyond the fashion for liason-al-the-things ;) | 20:16 |
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| asalkeld | jasond`, you keen? | 20:16 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, you want to take an action to fight it? | 20:17 |
| jasond` | asalkeld: let me talk to randall about that and get back to you | 20:17 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Not really | 20:17 |
| stevebaker | presumably the PTL is the default liaison for all the things | 20:17 |
| zaneb | who are the current members of the VM team? | 20:17 |
| asalkeld | :) | 20:17 |
| jasond` | asalkeld: he stepped away for a minute | 20:17 |
| zaneb | iirc it's me, shardy and jasond`? | 20:17 |
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| asalkeld | jasond`, no problem | 20:17 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I thought I was on it too, can't recall | 20:17 |
| shardy | zaneb: I believe I'm on it | 20:17 |
| zaneb | oh yeah, I think stevebaker also | 20:18 |
| stevebaker | we don't have enough vulnerabilities to have a process | 20:18 |
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| jasond` | that's right, i am already on it :) | 20:18 |
| shardy | stevebaker: \o/ ;) | 20:18 |
| asalkeld | cool | 20:18 |
| zaneb | so I think it's just a case of one of us being the first contact point | 20:18 |
| asalkeld | jasond`, said he would talk to randall about it | 20:19 |
| asalkeld | API working group | 20:19 |
| asalkeld | that might be a bit more work | 20:19 |
| asalkeld | lots of meetings | 20:19 |
| asalkeld | skraynev_? | 20:20 |
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| asalkeld | ryansb, ? | 20:20 |
| stevebaker | yr not selling it | 20:20 |
| zaneb | lol | 20:20 |
| stevebaker | Status! Influence! Parties! | 20:20 |
| ryansb | you have to say "lots of meetings WITH BEER" | 20:20 |
| skraynev_ | stevebaker: thumbs up! | 20:20 |
| asalkeld | ryansb, doh | 20:21 |
| ryansb | but I'd be interested, thought I'm not core | 20:21 |
| ryansb | *though | 20:21 |
| asalkeld | i don't think that is a problem | 20:21 |
| stevebaker | I assume that is not a requirement | 20:21 |
| asalkeld | ryansb, you are it | 20:21 |
| zaneb | yeah, I don't see that as a big obstacle | 20:21 |
| mdulko | The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not need to be the PTL | 20:21 |
| mdulko | They say | 20:21 |
| ryansb | I just wasn't sure how strong the "should" was in their description | 20:21 |
| asalkeld | ryansb, is working hard at core - right? | 20:22 |
| asalkeld | ;) | 20:22 |
| ryansb | :) | 20:22 |
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| ryansb | I'll put my name in, and see if they kick me out. | 20:22 |
| asalkeld | cool | 20:22 |
| zaneb | ryansb has a direct line to like half the core reviewers, so he shouldn't have any trouble getting stuff landed ;) | 20:22 |
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| asalkeld | ok, if anyone want to do release management, that is now also up for grabs | 20:23 |
| zaneb | asalkeld: nobody wants to release management | 20:23 |
| asalkeld | but i assumed that ^ | 20:23 |
| asalkeld | :) | 20:24 |
| shardy | That's the really "fun" part of being a PTL ;) | 20:24 |
| asalkeld | ok, lets move on | 20:24 |
| asalkeld | #topic project meetings | 20:24 |
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| asalkeld | so regarding the cpl's - you are encouraged to now attend the project meeting too | 20:24 |
| asalkeld | cpl's == cross project liaisons | 20:25 |
| asalkeld | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 20:25 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: ah, I didn't know that | 20:25 |
| asalkeld | that's new | 20:25 |
| asalkeld | optional, but encouraged | 20:25 |
| stevebaker | I often lurk anyway | 20:25 |
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| asalkeld | moving on | 20:25 |
| asalkeld | #topic Mid cycle meetup planning | 20:26 |
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| asalkeld | so the poll is very even | 20:26 |
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| stevebaker | #link https://doodle.com/b9m4bf8hvm3mna97#table | 20:26 |
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| inc0 | maybe hangouts then? | 20:27 |
| asalkeld | which is just saying no one really wants to travel | 20:27 |
| asalkeld | inc0, yip | 20:27 |
| asalkeld | i propose we don't travel to a midcycle | 20:27 |
| inc0 | we might have hard time with tz difference then | 20:27 |
| inc0 | but we can schedule topic sessions in hours convenient with interested people | 20:28 |
| asalkeld | inc0 i think the trick is to have topical discussions | 20:28 |
| zaneb | I propose we don't use hangouts, because I don't have Google+ | 20:28 |
| asalkeld | so we don't need everyone | 20:28 |
| zaneb | russellb has some sort of WebRTC thing we could use I believe | 20:28 |
| skraynev_ | zaneb: :) | 20:28 |
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| asalkeld | zaneb, i am not stressed what we use | 20:28 |
| inc0 | we can set up mumble server;) | 20:28 |
| asalkeld | not really the point, as long as it works | 20:28 |
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| asalkeld | are people ok with trying this? | 20:29 |
| inc0 | or whatever works, we all work in huge corpos...I think we can manage to get one teleco bridge or external server;) | 20:29 |
| stevebaker | we should give it a decent attempt | 20:29 |
| asalkeld | yip | 20:29 |
| pas-ha | +1 | 20:29 |
| tspatzier | +1 | 20:30 |
| mdulko | +1 | 20:30 |
| ryansb | Yeah, major plus of remote-midcycle is we can record | 20:30 |
| jasond` | +1 | 20:30 |
| skraynev_ | +2 | 20:30 |
| stevebaker | why not bluejeans? | 20:30 |
| shardy | +1 | 20:30 |
| zaneb | +1, travel was looking more or less impossible to get approved | 20:30 |
| asalkeld | #action asalkeld to announce the "remote" midcycle | 20:30 |
| stevebaker | +1 | 20:30 |
| ryansb | +1 | 20:30 |
| shardy | stevebaker: Yeah I was thinking that might work | 20:30 |
| asalkeld | next we can bike shed on the software to use | 20:30 |
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| stevebaker | and the timezone to sync to | 20:31 |
| inc0 | we could start getting ideas for sessions too | 20:31 |
| stevebaker | going nocturnal would be amusing | 20:31 |
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| asalkeld | inc0, yeah | 20:31 |
| ryansb | we should write oslo.webrtc ;) | 20:31 |
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| asalkeld | i think if everyone attends it won't work | 20:31 |
| inc0 | meetup as a service? | 20:31 |
| skraynev_ | ryansb: as additional plugin for Heat :) | 20:32 |
| asalkeld | we need to have topics that apeal to a focused group | 20:32 |
| inc0 | etherpad? | 20:32 |
| asalkeld | inc0, sure | 20:32 |
| stevebaker | so this won't be until Feb? | 20:32 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, i guess | 20:33 |
| asalkeld | but it's cheap, so we could do it when ever | 20:33 |
| asalkeld | i think we just need a process for setting up a discussion | 20:33 |
| inc0 | we could do it more than once if it would be required | 20:34 |
| asalkeld | suer | 20:34 |
| asalkeld | ok, lets move on we had some other topics | 20:34 |
| asalkeld | #topic rpc versioning | 20:35 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, ^ | 20:35 |
| asalkeld | i hope the topic is what you wanted | 20:35 |
| shardy | So my question is, what needs to happen so we actually solve the versioning on upgrade problem? | 20:35 |
| shardy | stevebaker mentioned bumping versions on a review recently, then it later occurred to me that it doesn't actually solve anything, or does it? | 20:35 |
| stevebaker | RPC_API_VERSION looks like it meets a need. Rev it on API changes, then make calls with the requested version. You will end up with an engine that responds with that version | 20:36 |
| asalkeld | why don't you think it solves a problem | 20:36 |
| asalkeld | one problem is: speaking to an older engine | 20:37 |
| shardy | stevebaker: Does something have the retry logic on the client side to keep trying different engines if it hits one with the wrong version? | 20:37 |
| pas-ha | stevebaker, what if noone answers? timeout? | 20:37 |
| zaneb | I'm guessing it depends a lot on the nature of the change you're making | 20:37 |
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| inc0 | I think horizon has that in config file | 20:38 |
| stevebaker | shardy: surely a newer engine will respond first time. Upgrade instructions will need to be 0. upgrade database 1. upgrade some engines, 2. upgrade everything else in any order | 20:38 |
| inc0 | can't we just mimic this approach? | 20:38 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: that's backwards | 20:38 |
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| inc0 | (if I understand problem correctly, which I may not.) | 20:39 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, we agreed at summit we need to support tripelo upgrades | 20:39 |
| zaneb | engine(s) have to be upgraded before DB | 20:39 |
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| stevebaker | inc0: afaik horizon doesn't do rpc calls | 20:39 |
| shardy | stevebaker: So in the transition, you have a mixture of engine verions, what happens when an upgraded API hits a too-old engine? | 20:39 |
| asalkeld | upgrade all software, then db | 20:39 |
| shardy | Is there code in oslo.messaging which round-robins until it gets a match? | 20:39 |
| stevebaker | shardy: it doesn't, because the calls request the version they need | 20:39 |
| zaneb | and also TripleO is doing this awkward thing where they deploy an API and an engine together, so that they both get upgraded at the same time :/ | 20:40 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, that's on versioned objects | 20:40 |
| shardy | stevebaker: But each engine supports exactly one version, doesn't it? | 20:40 |
| inc0 | how about getting topic excheange on amqp | 20:40 |
| asalkeld | s/on/in | 20:40 |
| inc0 | and have 2 queues for each version | 20:40 |
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| inc0 | for transition? | 20:40 |
| inc0 | and when calling rpc, we'll specify which queue it should land on? | 20:40 |
| stevebaker | shardy: client requesting 1.0 can be serviced by a 1.1 engine | 20:40 |
| stevebaker | shardy: the vast majority of our API changes are backwards compatible minor revs | 20:41 |
| pas-ha | stevebaker, so 1.x must be backward-compat? | 20:41 |
| asalkeld | inc0, that sounds messy for the operator | 20:41 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: upgrading in pairs should be fine | 20:41 |
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| inc0 | asalkeld, it might, but we can make that semi-automatic | 20:41 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: Ok, so if all engine upgrades are backwards compatible, what does the version buy us over documenting the engine must be upgraded first? | 20:42 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: well, it's a PITA because it means you have to maintain both backwards and upwards compat | 20:42 |
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| inc0 | zaneb, +1 if we made one mistake, we'd need to live with it forever and ever | 20:43 |
| stevebaker | shardy: because engine->engine calls need a new engine. engine 1 does a call requesting 1.2, a 1.2 engine responds. | 20:43 |
| asalkeld | shardy, can we go look and see what other projects do? | 20:43 |
| asalkeld | seems like this should be a solved problem | 20:43 |
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| stevebaker | I think we are discussing the solved problem | 20:44 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Sure, and if it's solved then great | 20:44 |
| mdulko | Is it? Nova guys were discussing it also at the summit. | 20:44 |
| stevebaker | we just need to get better at reving RPC_API_VERSION and calling the version required, so keep an eye out for RPC API changes in reviews | 20:45 |
| shardy | I was confused because it's not clear how this should work looking at the code, and the discussion of versioned objects sounded like that was required to solve this properly | 20:45 |
| zaneb | it's really hard to discuss this in general terms, outside the context of a specific change | 20:45 |
| zaneb | because every change is potentially different | 20:45 |
| asalkeld | mdulko, yeah - their's is based on the versioned objects | 20:45 |
| inc0 | mdulko, did they threw any ideas? | 20:45 |
| asalkeld | zaneb, +1 | 20:45 |
| mdulko | inc0, asalkeld already replied | 20:45 |
| shardy | zaneb: Well what's triggered my interest is the recently merged decouple-nested RPC additions | 20:45 |
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| stevebaker | mdulko: they are passing complex objects over RPC, so they need versioned objects. Currently we have only method arguments with simple types | 20:46 |
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| shardy | zaneb: stevebaker asked for a version bump, but unfortunately the patches got merged anyway | 20:46 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: can you submit a rev change as a follow up? | 20:46 |
| shardy | I'm trying to figure out how big a problem that is, and how we handle RPC changes at reiew time in future | 20:46 |
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| shardy | stevebaker: Sure, if that fixes a problem | 20:46 |
| zaneb | shardy: so that is adding extra parameters, without which it presumably breaks something, so it needs a version bump | 20:47 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: we can point others at this change "-1, do this" | 20:47 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, we probably need a javlin test | 20:47 |
| pas-ha | may be we should bump the rpc version not with every little change? but "cumulatively", say on milestones? | 20:47 |
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| asalkeld | pas-ha, but people are doing cd | 20:47 |
| zaneb | shardy: or perhaps it just returns an error? in which case maybe it's OK (though not ideal, obvs) | 20:47 |
| stevebaker | pas-ha: there is lots of heat CD | 20:47 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Yes, if anyone wants to take on getting grenade/javelin working that would be awesome | 20:47 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: I started but gave up on it as it's hard to get working locally | 20:48 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86978/ | 20:48 |
| asalkeld | ok, that sucks | 20:48 |
| stevebaker | should we move on? | 20:49 |
| shardy | +1 | 20:49 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, what was your topic? | 20:49 |
| stevebaker | RPC exceptions | 20:49 |
| asalkeld | #topic rpc exceptions | 20:49 |
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| stevebaker | so exceptions on api->engine calls are handled by the fault middleware, but we need some thought on what to do about engine->engine exceptions | 20:50 |
| skraynev_ | stevebaker: could you give example when it may happen? | 20:51 |
| zaneb | catch them? | 20:51 |
| asalkeld | ok, so serialising them | 20:51 |
| stevebaker | if a NotFound exception is raised the result on the client side has the type heat.common.exception_Remote.NotFound_Remote, which can't be specified in a static except | 20:51 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: so your point is that the RPC API doesn't behave enough like the ReST API for the purposes of the client plugins? | 20:52 |
| asalkeld | so we need something in the rpc client to map it like middleware does | 20:52 |
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| stevebaker | which means we either need to change all our error paths to check for these made up remote types, or do some wrapping in the RPC client to raise the real exceptions again. I'd like to discuss which is best | 20:53 |
| asalkeld | couldn't we move the fault middleware into the rpc client? | 20:53 |
| zaneb | how many error paths are we talking about? | 20:53 |
| asalkeld | to have this stuff in one place | 20:53 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: that is just formatting the error for the user, we need something quite different in the engine | 20:54 |
| zaneb | what are we doing engine-engine RPC for other than shardy's nested stack changes? | 20:54 |
| asalkeld | zaneb, not much now | 20:54 |
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| asalkeld | soon more | 20:54 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: my software-deployment changes. Not much now but eventually all the things | 20:54 |
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| shardy | zaneb: stevebaker's moved softwareconfig to that model, and in future, won't convergence work in a similar way? | 20:55 |
| pas-ha | zaneb, stop, signal | 20:55 |
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| zaneb | shardy: convergence will never get a reply at all | 20:55 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: anything which catches a HeatException or subclass thereof | 20:55 |
| zaneb | it's completely async | 20:55 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: isn't that localised to a client plugin though? couldn't you do the translation there? | 20:55 |
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| asalkeld | 4mins | 20:56 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: you mean heat.rpc.client.EngineClient? yes. I think it would need every method call to check for every known thrown exception to re-raise it though | 20:57 |
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| stevebaker | anyway, I've raised the issue, we don't need to solve it now | 20:58 |
| asalkeld | #topic open discussion | 20:58 |
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| asalkeld | (for 2mins) | 20:58 |
| asalkeld | not very open ended:-O | 20:58 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: no, I mean a client plugin that talks to the RPC client instead of python-heatclient | 20:59 |
| ryansb | open, but with a low ttl | 20:59 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: there is no such thing. resources are making rpc calls directly | 21:00 |
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| asalkeld | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 19 21:00:28 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2014/heat.2014-11-19-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2014/heat.2014-11-19-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2014/heat.2014-11-19-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
| asalkeld | thanks everyone | 21:00 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: but if there *were* such a thing... that would be the place to handle it, right? | 21:00 |
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