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| AndChat|27729 | Hope for review for my nova spec 90546 | 15:27 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 26 16:00:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:00 |
| NikolayM | hi ! | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:03 | |
| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov, NikolayM: adjust wiki (DSL spec, terminology, overall structure) | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | NikolayM, I know you created a page with ReST API spec | 16:04 |
| NikolayM | I think it is done partially | 16:04 |
| peoplemerge | hi | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | hey | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | here it is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral/RestAPI | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | but I'm not sure that DSL page is up to date? | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | did you fix it too? | 16:05 |
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| NikolayM | yes | 16:05 |
| NikolayM | I'll fix it on this week | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | #action NikolayM, fix wiki DSL page (make it up to date) | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | besides that I fixed lots of other stuff | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | 2. rakhmerov, xazel: talk about small improvements in Mistral Dashboard | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | well | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | yes, we did :) | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | sorry, I'm back | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | 3. rakhmerov: make sure to test Mistral Dashboard in the local environment | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | that one is ok | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | I just had some problems with it but they're gone | 16:09 |
| NikolayM | recently I created a new stackforge project for our dashboard | 16:09 |
| NikolayM | mistral-dashboard | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | ok, yes | 16:09 |
| NikolayM | I think we should move our code related to dashboard from client to it | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | xazel, you're here? | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | sure | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | we'll let Kirill know about it | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | 4. NikolayM: file a bug ticket for the bug in Data Flow related with non-recursive task publishing | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | this one is done and the but itself has been fixed | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | is it correct NikolayM? | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | let's skip other 3 AIs since they were purely related with summit preparations | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | they were all done | 16:11 |
| NikolayM | yes, correct | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | ok, next topic | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current Status (by team members) | 16:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current Status (by team members) (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:12 | |
| rakhmerov | rakhmerov's status: just got back home on Friday after the summit, mostly adjusting BPs based on summit notes, doing reviews etc. | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | and planning | 16:14 |
| NikolayM | created/modified page on wiki, fix some bugs with API, review, and finished error handling on our API controllers | 16:14 |
| NikolayM | thanks to Angus :) | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | yes, and btw, I talked to Angus today | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | he kindly agreed to help us implement BP related to pluggable actions | 16:15 |
| NikolayM | oh, cool | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | actually I think something was already committed | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | let me check | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | there you go: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95502/ | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | hey, is anybody else here at the meeting? | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | StackStorm folks? | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | Winson? | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | hm... NikolayM, looks like there's nobody else | 16:19 |
| NikolayM | hm | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I hoped to have more people here but looks like people still didn't adjust their schedule after the summit | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | so then I would suggest to make topic "Summit Results" very short | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Summit Results | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit Results (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:23 | |
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| rakhmerov | overall, I'm satisfied with the Summit regarding Mistral | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | the major achievements are: | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | * there are people who want see Mistral as one of the core OS projects (e.g. Zane Bitter) | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | * we attracted a lot of attention to Mistral (significant interest from 5-6 teams including Solum, Heat) | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | btw, Solum folks (and Angus particularly) started using Mistral, we are already working with Angus | 16:26 |
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| NikolayM | it is very good, I think | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | Angus filed several BPs that Solum team is interested in | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | we need to implement them soon, they all don't conflict with our plans | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, and another significant achievement is that we came up with a high level design for TaskFlow so that everyone becomes happier with it | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | including Mistral | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | we have a general plan, the next step is to create a more detailed plan with all necessary design documents and reasoning | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | I talked to Joshua and Adrian Otto last week about Mistral incubation and we decided to proceed with a detailed plan with Joshua and then expose it to TC as a part of Mistral incubation process | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | besides that we got new contacts, I'm still planning to meet with some of them this week | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | and one more thing: we met with Dmitri at the summit and summed up all the most important technical items that we need to address during this cycle | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | based on summit results (including people opinions) | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | Nikolay, so I would suggest to save our time a little bit and finish for today | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | unless you have some questions/comments | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm hoping next time it will be more crowded here and we can really discuss our plans for the next couple of months | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, what do you think? | 16:35 |
| NikolayM | so, I have no questions | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | and btw, by that time I'll have all the BPs created so that we'll be able to discuss them | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:35 |
| NikolayM | yes | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | just in case, is there anyone at the meeting who has questions/comments/topics? | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, then let's wrap up for today | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | thanks | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 26 16:37:28 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| NikolayM | bye! | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-05-26-16.00.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-05-26-16.00.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-05-26-16.00.log.html | 16:37 |
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| rl | matjazp found it useful, because many students have Windows on their machines. | 17:18 |
| rl | The infrastracture is there anyway. | 17:18 |
| rl | But will the training-labs mostly use install scripts? | 17:19 |
| rl | Or images pre-made by OpenStack? | 17:19 |
| rl | Or will they build images using our tools and give those to students? | 17:19 |
| rl | I listed the open questions on etherpad, and I would like to get some answers from people who know how the scripts will eventually be used. | 17:20 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 26 18:00:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 18:00 |
| anteaya | hello, anyone here for the third-party meeting? | 18:00 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 18:00 |
| anteaya | yay | 18:00 |
| luqas | o/ | 18:00 |
| anteaya | hello | 18:00 |
| anteaya | okay just a few of us today and the agenda is a bit thin | 18:01 |
| anteaya | so let's move through the topics and see where we are | 18:01 |
| anteaya | #topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 18:01 | |
| anteaya | for folks who are new or reading the logs it helps to be reminded of the OpenStack Mission | 18:02 |
| anteaya | #info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable. | 18:02 |
| anteaya | that should be rather straightforward | 18:02 |
| anteaya | let's move on | 18:02 |
| anteaya | #topic Review of previous week's open action items | 18:02 |
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| anteaya | #info anteaya needs to get better at using the #action tag | 18:03 |
| anteaya | I was a little light on that last week | 18:03 |
| anteaya | one item that I said I would do | 18:03 |
| anteaya | #info anteaya to polish the Purposes/Goals section from the etherpad | 18:04 |
| anteaya | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/polished-third-party-goals | 18:04 |
| anteaya | so we can take a look at that etherpad | 18:04 |
| anteaya | I think we can carry that over to next week when we have a few more people to review it | 18:04 |
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| anteaya | anyone have any comments on that now? | 18:04 |
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| anteaya | no? | 18:05 |
| krtaylor | Looks like a good starting place | 18:06 |
| anteaya | great thanks | 18:06 |
| anteaya | we can talk about it again next week before a motion to adopt these goals | 18:06 |
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| anteaya | let's move on | 18:06 |
| anteaya | #topic Announcements | 18:06 |
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| anteaya | nothing really to announce this week | 18:07 |
| anteaya | I want to ensure folks know about our third party requirements | 18:07 |
| anteaya | #link http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html | 18:07 |
| anteaya | anyone have anything else to announce? | 18:07 |
| anteaya | moving on | 18:08 |
| anteaya | #topic OpenStack Program items | 18:08 |
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| anteaya | david-lyle has an item and isn't here this week | 18:08 |
| anteaya | we will revisit his item on next week's agenda | 18:08 |
| anteaya | anyone else from any openstack programs with any items to discuss? | 18:08 |
| anteaya | we might finish by quarter past | 18:09 |
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| anteaya | #topic Deadlines & Deprecations | 18:09 |
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| anteaya | this is the portion of the meeting where programs announce timelines, deadlines and any code that is heading down the road of deprecation | 18:09 |
| anteaya | anyone with any items for this topic this week? | 18:10 |
| anteaya | next topic | 18:10 |
| anteaya | #topic Highlighting a Program or Gerrit Account | 18:10 |
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| anteaya | krtaylor: you said you wanted something in this section next week | 18:10 |
| anteaya | you would be willing to do an overview of your third party ci system and answer questions | 18:11 |
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| krtaylor | sure | 18:11 |
| anteaya | great | 18:11 |
| anteaya | so we will look forward to that in this space next week | 18:12 |
| anteaya | which takes us to | 18:12 |
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| anteaya | #topic Open Discussion | 18:12 |
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| anteaya | fastest meeting I have ever attended | 18:12 |
| anteaya | hi luqas | 18:12 |
| luqas | hi anteaya | 18:12 |
| krtaylor | hehheh, I think it set a record | 18:13 |
| anteaya | want to tell us a bit about what is happening for you in the third party space? | 18:13 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: no conversation to get in the way | 18:13 |
| luqas | sure, that 's the moment | 18:13 |
| bookwar | anteaya: i want to ask ) | 18:13 |
| luqas | so we are for neutron CI | 18:13 |
| anteaya | yay bookwar | 18:13 |
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| luqas | our team talked to mestery in the last summit | 18:13 |
| luqas | and we agreed we have to fix/update our CI | 18:13 |
| anteaya | luqas: which account is yours? | 18:14 |
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| luqas | Midokura CI Bot | 18:14 |
| anteaya | ah okay | 18:14 |
| luqas | we are a little out of date with our CI platform | 18:14 |
| anteaya | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:lucas%2540midokura.com+status:open,n,z | 18:14 |
| anteaya | okay what are you using for a platform right now? | 18:15 |
| luqas | only the jenkins plug to your gerrit | 18:15 |
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| anteaya | okay | 18:15 |
| luqas | we are working on adding the zuul | 18:15 |
| anteaya | so you talked to mestery at the summit | 18:15 |
| luqas | using jpipes excellent tutorials | 18:15 |
| anteaya | what came out of your meeting with mestery? | 18:16 |
| luqas | well, I wasn't there, but basically we informed that we were outdated in our CI setup | 18:16 |
| luqas | and we were working on fixing it | 18:16 |
| anteaya | okay | 18:16 |
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| luqas | to meet all the OS CI third party requirements | 18:17 |
| anteaya | did mestery give you a timeline? | 18:17 |
| luqas | mmm, not sure | 18:17 |
| luqas | will ask | 18:17 |
| anteaya | okay | 18:17 |
| anteaya | so, what can we do today to help you achieve the next step? | 18:17 |
| luqas | mmm, I guess really nothing, most has to be done from our side :-) | 18:18 |
| anteaya | great | 18:18 |
| anteaya | thanks for speaking up and telling us where you are | 18:18 |
| anteaya | do you know about the sandbox repo? | 18:18 |
| luqas | anteaya: you're welcome | 18:18 |
| anteaya | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/sandbox/ | 18:19 |
| anteaya | this is a great place to test out your third party ci system | 18:19 |
| anteaya | to ensure it is working | 18:19 |
| luqas | these are your vms for 3rd party testing? | 18:19 |
| anteaya | bookwar: hello | 18:19 |
| anteaya | bookwar: what is on your mind? | 18:19 |
| anteaya | luqas: this is a test repository | 18:19 |
| bookwar | anteaya: I just want some clarification. So there is third-party testing (with gerrit accounts) and third party projects (those under stackforge umbrella). Which third party the Third Party is? | 18:19 |
| anteaya | you can submit example patches to test your third party ci system is working properly | 18:20 |
| anteaya | good question | 18:20 |
| anteaya | my vision was third party testing with gerrit accounts | 18:20 |
| anteaya | I consider stackforge projects to be stackforge projects | 18:21 |
| anteaya | I don't call stackforge projects third party projects | 18:21 |
| anteaya | now that might just be me | 18:21 |
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| bookwar | anteaya: maybe we can add this somewhere to description | 18:22 |
| luqas | anteaya: yes I heard about the sandbox but I was wrong about what it was... | 18:22 |
| anteaya | bookwar: like this page you mean? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty | 18:22 |
| bookwar | it is not the issue for me (since i have both) but just for others interested | 18:23 |
| anteaya | bookwar: are there people who feel this space includes discussion of stackforge projects? | 18:23 |
| anteaya | sure if you think it needs clarifying | 18:23 |
| anteaya | what do you propose? | 18:23 |
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| anteaya | did we lose you? | 18:25 |
| bookwar | anteaya: i just went to read those pages | 18:25 |
| anteaya | ah okay great | 18:25 |
| bookwar | and maybe it was my mistake not to read them fully | 18:25 |
| anteaya | not a problem | 18:26 |
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| anteaya | thanks for making me aware there may be other ways to interpret third party | 18:26 |
| anteaya | the wikipage does have this line: Everyone interested in Third Party process surrounding automated testing is encouraged to attend. | 18:26 |
| bookwar | so let's say it is clarified and if someone else ever asks about it, we'll add it to wiki page | 18:26 |
| anteaya | sounds good to me | 18:26 |
| anteaya | luqas: let us know if you need assistance using the sandbox | 18:27 |
| anteaya | anyone have anything else? | 18:27 |
| luqas | anteaya: ok, thanks! | 18:27 |
| anteaya | np | 18:27 |
| anteaya | so noone is jumping up and down | 18:27 |
| anteaya | let's wrap up | 18:27 |
| anteaya | thanks so much for being here | 18:27 |
| anteaya | I look forward to seeing you next week | 18:27 |
| krtaylor | thanks anteaya | 18:28 |
| anteaya | be sure to attend the -infra, -qa and -tc meetings as well, or at least read the logs | 18:28 |
| anteaya | thanks all | 18:28 |
| anteaya | o/ | 18:28 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 18:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 26 18:28:28 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-05-26-18.00.html | 18:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-05-26-18.00.txt | 18:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-05-26-18.00.log.html | 18:28 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, oh, I was thinking that 3rd party trsting will be now :( | 18:56 |
| NobodyCam | nope Ironic comming up | 18:56 |
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| NobodyCam | o/ | 19:00 |
| devananda | SergeyLukjanov: that meeting was an hour ago, and only ran for 30 minutes today | 19:00 |
| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 26 19:01:13 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:01 |
| devananda | hi folks! who's here today? | 19:01 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 19:01 |
| * NobodyCam is here o/ | 19:01 | |
| lucasagomes | me :) | 19:01 |
| devananda | I know it's a holiday in the US, but we skipped last week due to post-summit travel ... | 19:01 |
| yuriyz | o/ | 19:01 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 19:01 |
| max_lobur | o/ | 19:01 |
| gmatefi | \o | 19:01 |
| devananda | so I wanted to still have a meeting today,e ven if not everyone makes it | 19:01 |
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| devananda | as usual, our agenda is online (though it's short and wasn't edited much ahead of time) | 19:02 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:02 |
| devananda | #chair NobodyCam | 19:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:02 |
| devananda | #topic announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:02 | |
| devananda | first off - was great to see everyone who made it to the summit | 19:02 |
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| devananda | hope we're all recovered from the travel by now :) | 19:03 |
| devananda | I've been busy updating things based on our discussions | 19:03 |
| NobodyCam | yes! sorry I had to leave mid summit :( | 19:03 |
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| devananda | see the mailing list for recent nominations to add dtantsur to the core review team, and remove max_lobur | 19:04 |
| devananda | also see the ML for notices about the tempest-dsvm-virtual-ironic job | 19:04 |
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| devananda | it's now gating on Ironic and diskimage-builder, and soon also gating our client | 19:04 |
| lifeless | o/ | 19:04 |
| lucasagomes | yay | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | :) woo hoo | 19:04 |
| devananda | lastly, we now have a specs repo | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | :) note name change from baremetal-specs to ironic-specs | 19:05 |
| devananda | yep. See the ML for full details (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-May/035885.html) | 19:05 |
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| devananda | #topic status report | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status report (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:06 | |
| devananda | #topic status report: open reviews and release cycle | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status report: open reviews and release cycle (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:06 | |
| devananda | I added this section to the agenda,a nd would like to take a few minutes every meeting | 19:06 |
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| devananda | for us to look at the overall review backlog | 19:07 |
| devananda | it's been steadily growing over the last few months | 19:07 |
| devananda | so I think we need a better way for cores to prioritize their review time than what we've been doing | 19:07 |
| dtantsur | has anyone seen a new dashboard: https://review.openstack.org/#/projects/openstack/ironic,dashboards/important-changes:review-inbox-dashboard ? | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/projects/openstack/ironic,dashboards/important-changes:review-inbox-dashboard | 19:08 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, yeah, that's pretty neat! | 19:08 |
| devananda | dtantsur: I've seen it -- very helpful in finding what is "ready" t oreview | 19:08 |
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| dtantsur | yeah, also patches that got no review yet | 19:08 |
| devananda | I'd also like to elicit suggestions on how to prioritize what we review -- in terms of alignment with our collective goals (eg, for integration with nova and graduation) | 19:09 |
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| dtantsur | Should 1st priority be Nova driver? | 19:10 |
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| devananda | yes, and anything related to helping that land in nova | 19:10 |
| devananda | eg, the instance_info refactoring | 19:10 |
| lucasagomes | +1 for the nova driver and related stuff... the sooner we get the driver being reviewed and merged in nova the best | 19:11 |
| lifeless | I wish the review ordering could take bug severity into account | 19:12 |
| devananda | lifeless: ++ | 19:12 |
| lifeless | so we could review in this order - criticals, approved blueprints, anything else. | 19:12 |
| lifeless | (or bikeshed variations on that) | 19:12 |
| lucasagomes | that would be neat | 19:12 |
| devananda | i'd like the same ability for blueprints -- order by targeted release milestone, then by priority | 19:12 |
| lifeless | fungi: ^ as an infra person around right now ... ^ wishlist ) | 19:12 |
| dtantsur | I wonder how hard it would be created this kind of dashboard? | 19:12 |
| devananda | this dashboard attempted to create a weight based on those things | 19:13 |
| devananda | #link http://status.openstack.org/reviews/ | 19:13 |
| devananda | but i have found it often not representative of what I actually want to see | 19:13 |
| rloo | where does all the factoring stuff come in? | 19:13 |
| fungi | devananda: lifeless: talking about a feature request for openstack-infra/reviewday? | 19:13 |
| fungi | i'm not too familiar with its internals, but dprince/pleia2 could probably better speak to the feasibility of that | 19:14 |
| devananda | rloo: code refactoring would be on my list of good-to-have by J1 milestone, so it doesn't slow down feature dev after that | 19:14 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, they r important as well, idk if as important as the driver related stuff but def something that would be great to get in in J1 | 19:14 |
| lifeless | fungi: well for gerrit specifically, reviewday is not the One True Interface | 19:14 |
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| lifeless | fungi: but yes reviewday is a good workaround | 19:15 |
| lifeless | whats its url again ? | 19:15 |
| fungi | lifeless: right, i think getting that capability into gerrit upstream is how that would happen | 19:15 |
| pleia2 | status.openstack.org/reviews | 19:15 |
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| lifeless | devananda: ^ code is in openstack-infra/reviewday, and patches obviously solicited | 19:16 |
| rloo | i dunno, NobodyCam's patch is last in that list... | 19:16 |
| lifeless | perhaps we should make using that to focus reviews an explicit goal - with feedback and bugs about where it gets the order wrong ? | 19:16 |
| devananda | that needs a per-project UI to be useful, and some ability to customize it, IMO | 19:16 |
| dtantsur | I would prefer lower priority for what already got negative feedback | 19:17 |
| lifeless | pleia2: bugs are on openstack-ci ? | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: I just pushed up a new rev so prob still in testing | 19:17 |
| pleia2 | lifeless: yes, please tag with reviewday | 19:17 |
| devananda | eg, reviewday puts the top ironic review as one that already has a -1 revie and a -1 from jenkins, on a bug that is importannce:undecided | 19:17 |
| devananda | it seems to be failing | 19:17 |
| lifeless | dtantsur: thats tricky because non-core vs core negative feedback is different | 19:17 |
| dtantsur | lifeless, at least -1 from Jenkins :) | 19:17 |
| rloo | must just be me; I can't tell from status.openstack.org/reviews whether the top or bottom of the list of reviews is more important! | 19:18 |
| fungi | devananda: lifeless: probably the closest gerrit-centric solution which has been batted around is to get a review priority feature implemented upstream and then consume that in a later release | 19:18 |
| devananda | rloo: top => highest weight # | 19:18 |
| lifeless | rloo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1317647 is importance 'undecided' | 19:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1317647 in ironic "disk volume labels on conductor can conflict with nodes disk labels" [Undecided,In progress] | 19:18 |
| lifeless | rloo: I think thats the problem :) | 19:18 |
| rloo | devananda: I find it hard to believe that some of the top ones are that important. | 19:18 |
| * lifeless fixes to critical | 19:18 | |
| fungi | devananda: lifeless: then project review triagers could set review priorities via api based on whatever external sources/metrics they prefer | 19:18 |
| devananda | rloo: indeed | 19:18 |
| * dtantsur would also see setting weight as function, written say in Lua right in a browser :) | 19:18 | |
| lifeless | fungi: I liky | 19:19 |
| devananda | fungi: taht'd be handy | 19:19 |
| lifeless | pleia2: how often does it regenerate ? | 19:19 |
| fungi | lifeless: devananda: know anybody who likes coding in java? ;) | 19:19 |
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| lifeless | fungi: depends how much you pay them :P | 19:20 |
| fungi | heh | 19:20 |
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| devananda | ok - lest we spend the whole meeting on this, let's take this discussion to the ML and move on | 19:20 |
| pleia2 | lifeless: every 15 minutes, it takes about 10 minutes to run | 19:21 |
| rloo | just to recap this part, there were two parts? 1. decide on criteria by which to prioritize/rank reviews; 2. something that will list the reviews in our desired order. | 19:21 |
| devananda | #info reviewday's weighting isn't in line with core perception of what's important. enhancements to gerrit would be great, but need a java developer | 19:22 |
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| * dtantsur did some Java long time ago | 19:22 | |
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| lifeless | devananda: reviewday is an openstack thing though, so I would say 'needs fixing' not 'designed to be different' | 19:22 |
| pleia2 | it could be that since the gerrit upgrade some of the logic is off, so help getting priorities lined up is welcome | 19:23 |
| devananda | #info feedback/fixes to reviewday are welcome, while changes to gerrit will take longer / has external dependencies | 19:23 |
| devananda | thanks all. let's move on to specific sub teams for a bit | 19:24 |
| devananda | #topic subteam: CI testing | 19:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam: CI testing (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:24 | |
| devananda | adam_g: hi! anything on the tempest front? | 19:25 |
| devananda | lifeless: aside from the disk label issue, which we've been reviewing with NobodyCam, anything else on the tripleo-ci front? | 19:25 |
| lifeless | the flake issue with -virtual | 19:26 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: any updates // need anything on that bug? | 19:26 |
| lifeless | and more broadly we still don't have the ironic tripleo test working | 19:26 |
| lifeless | which is critical to prevent such regressions | 19:26 |
| devananda | lifeless: i replied about the ir-api bug, and dtantsur has suggested a potential fix | 19:26 |
| lifeless | so bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1323152 and check-tripleo-ironic-undercloud-precise failing | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | been poking folks for reviews on the patch, How we're getting close to landing | 19:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1323152 in ironic "CI failure "unable to enable dhcp for" (dup-of: 1321494)" [Undecided,New] | 19:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1321494 in ironic "NodeLocked causing random test failures" [High,In progress] | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | s/how/hope/ | 19:27 |
| lifeless | which is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1300589 | 19:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1300589 in ironic "check-tripleo-ironic-undercloud-precise failing" [Undecided,In progress] | 19:27 |
| devananda | lifeless: more descriptive bug labels are helpful ^^ :) | 19:28 |
| lifeless | devananda: Ironic seems to not set bug importance, often | 19:28 |
| dtantsur | lifeless, my suggestion for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1321494 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95573/ (need to properly test it and write meaningful commit message) | 19:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1321494 in ironic "NodeLocked causing random test failures" [High,In progress] | 19:28 |
| lifeless | devananda: so the problem is we don't know how many specific issues lie behind that symptom | 19:29 |
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| lifeless | devananda: picking the current obvious one may be misleading | 19:29 |
| devananda | lifeless: i'm noticing that we're not doing a good job prioritizing bugs as well. fwiw, i'm the only one regularly doing bug triage over the last few months -- and I already added that to the agenda to talk about today | 19:30 |
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| lifeless | ack | 19:31 |
| devananda | lifeless: fair point that there could be several bugs underlying tripleo-ironic-undercloud failing. i'd rather have a bug for each one than one bug for any and all of them over time that never gets closed | 19:31 |
| devananda | anyhow | 19:31 |
| devananda | let's dogpile on the known open bugs we have affecting both tempest and tripleo CI | 19:32 |
| devananda | and try to land those fixes tomorrow at the latest | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | +1 | 19:32 |
| lucasagomes | that would be good | 19:32 |
| devananda | #topic fedora support | 19:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "fedora support (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:32 | |
| lifeless | devananda: closing that bug is super important | 19:33 |
| lifeless | devananda: so I'm reallly scared by the idea it might not get closed. | 19:33 |
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| devananda | dtantsur: any updates on fedora testing/support? | 19:34 |
| dtantsur | As to Fedora, I don't have anything new, except for I noticed DevStack failure related to SELinux inside diskimage-builder | 19:34 |
| dtantsur | Probably not related to Ironic, but worth investigating anyway | 19:35 |
| dtantsur | will do in 1-2 days | 19:35 |
| devananda | lifeless: bug 1300589 is hard to parse - it seems to be indiciating several things, some of which I think were already fixed in separate (more detailed) bugs | 19:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1300589 in ironic "check-tripleo-ironic-undercloud-precise failing" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300589 | 19:35 |
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| devananda | dtantsur: ack, thanks for the update | 19:35 |
| dtantsur | adam_g, how possible would it be to add non-voting job on Fedora? Are we even close to this possibility? | 19:35 |
| lifeless | devananda: ok, so run check experimental, it will fail, then update the bug to show the current failure ? | 19:36 |
| devananda | lifeless: i'd much rather have a separate bug per failure which can be closed when *that* failure is fixed -- and you're also welcome to use this bug as a catch-all for the current status | 19:37 |
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| devananda | russell_h, jroll: either of you around? | 19:37 |
| lifeless | devananda: sure, fundamentally I just want it fixed | 19:38 |
| russell_h | devananda: I am, jroll isn't afaik | 19:38 |
| lifeless | devananda: and AFAIK thats currently being driven by not-me. | 19:38 |
| lifeless | devananda: e.g. NobodyCam and adam_g had volunteered to close the loop on this one. | 19:38 |
| lifeless | devananda: so I'm going to direct your requests to them :) | 19:38 |
| devananda | lifeless: completely agree - I want to see it fixed as well. tracking the distinct failures distinctly will help us (or at least me) to see the progress | 19:38 |
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| devananda | lifeless: and undersatnd what it means when there are multiple patches changing different things that reference the same bug # | 19:39 |
| devananda | russell_h: do you want to give any updates on IPA today? | 19:39 |
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| russell_h | devananda: not much change since the summit. I know jroll is working on some IPA-related specs, not sure how far he got. | 19:40 |
| devananda | russell_h: ack, thanks | 19:41 |
| devananda | skipping the IPA section then, and moving on | 19:41 |
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| devananda | #topic discuss new subteams | 19:41 |
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| devananda | So, I'd like to ask for ya'll's help on two things | 19:42 |
| devananda | 1) reviewing specs | 19:42 |
| devananda | 2) triaging bugs | 19:42 |
| devananda | questions? volunteers? | 19:42 |
| lifeless | volunteering for 1) | 19:42 |
| lucasagomes | I want to help with 1) | 19:42 |
| dtantsur | I'd help with both | 19:43 |
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| devananda | awesome, thanks | 19:43 |
| yuriyz | want to help 2) | 19:43 |
| lucasagomes | 2) I can try give a hand, but urgh I often forget about the bugs there | 19:43 |
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| devananda | #action devananda to add lifeless and dtantsur to spec review team | 19:43 |
| lucasagomes | launchpad doesn't help much as well | 19:43 |
| russell_h | I can help with 1 | 19:43 |
| rloo | in theory, I'd like to help with 1) and 2), but then there's also reviews. I am out of time :-(. Will see how much I can get done. What are the priorities? (You'll say all.) | 19:43 |
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| devananda | rloo: no worries. we need more code reviews too :) | 19:44 |
| devananda | #action devananda to add russell_h to specs review team | 19:44 |
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| GheRivero | I can help with 2/ | 19:45 |
| rloo | ok, i'll stick with 3) :-) | 19:45 |
| devananda | i specifically want the specs review process to have the possibility to include non-core-reviewers whose opinions we value, eg. large scale operators who have domain architectural knowledge but less time to review code | 19:45 |
| devananda | so, thanks lifeless and russell_h ! | 19:45 |
| devananda | as for bug triage, there are some guidelines online that i'd like to make sure everyone has seen | 19:46 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Bugs | 19:46 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 19:46 |
| devananda | anyone want to be a point-of-contact for that subteam? | 19:46 |
| devananda | mostly that means giving a status report in the weekly meeting | 19:46 |
| lifeless | mordred: please abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95295/ | 19:47 |
| devananda | lifeless: actually no -- it got renamed BACK to ironic-specs | 19:48 |
| lifeless | oh:) | 19:48 |
| lifeless | I should have checked the details :/ | 19:48 |
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| devananda | lifeless: there was a ML thread on the rename, and infra did some maintenance to move things around | 19:48 |
| lifeless | yep | 19:48 |
| lucasagomes | :) and it zuul seems to not be fixed yet to pick up those patches to merge :( | 19:48 |
| lifeless | I thought Ironic had started out like the others | 19:49 |
| lifeless | ok, ELOCAL, sorry | 19:49 |
| devananda | yuriyz, dtantsur, GheRivero -- any of you want to volunteer to lead the bug triage team? | 19:49 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: yea, fungi was looking into an issue with zuul. seems it still isn't processing events from ironic-specs repo :( | 19:49 |
| dtantsur | devananda, I can | 19:49 |
| devananda | dtantsur: great, thanks! | 19:50 |
| dtantsur | I'm just afraid I have not enough experience | 19:50 |
| dtantsur | but I'll do my best :) | 19:50 |
| GheRivero | dtantsur: I can help you with that :) | 19:50 |
| devananda | dtantsur: feel free to ask me all the questions that come up | 19:50 |
| fungi | devananda: yep, still digging deeper | 19:51 |
| dtantsur | GheRivero, devananda , \o/ | 19:51 |
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| devananda | fungi: ack. thanks | 19:51 |
| dtantsur | ok, will do :) | 19:51 |
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| devananda | thanks all - i think that actually wraps up the topics I had (we alraedy touched on review backlog) | 19:51 |
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| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:51 |
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| dtantsur | I just wanted to draw attention to disk partitioning (what we with lucasagomes discussed) | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | of course /me is looking for reviews of 93133 | 19:52 |
| dtantsur | part of it is actually https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1322179 | 19:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1322179 in ironic "Add check on total disk size before deploying" [Undecided,New] | 19:52 |
| dtantsur | NobodyCam, left one more comment btw | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:53 |
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| NobodyCam | will take a peek after the meeting | 19:53 |
| dtantsur | What I think I discovered is that 1. we need also 1 MiB spacing after the last partition; 2. don't know how these spacing play with rounding to GiB; 3. I don't think we have any checks on that | 19:54 |
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| yuriyz | about diskimage-builder for Ironic agent image, I think CoreOS and Docker support should be removed for build with diskimage-builder | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, any updates on the local_gb == root_size thing? | 19:54 |
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| devananda | yuriyz: I agree -- I do not want IPA to require docker. <-- russell_h | 19:55 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes, I'm still looking into it, I am not sure it's the case | 19:55 |
| yuriyz | devananda, agree +2 | 19:55 |
| rloo | devananda, yuriyz, wasn't it already mentioned that docker shouldn't be required. If it isn't, maybe it ought to be noted somewhere? | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | right yea, no hurry I'm just curious | 19:55 |
| devananda | yuriyz: based on my conversations with IPA team, they also agreed to remove it over time. docker was just the shortest initial path for them | 19:55 |
| russell_h | +1 | 19:56 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes, well, judging my debstack source code you're right | 19:56 |
| russell_h | today there is no runtime requirement on docker, but the only built-in packaging mechanism does use it | 19:56 |
| lucasagomes | yeah I saw it awhile ago but didn't go deeper into the problem | 19:56 |
| dtantsur | but! if we have X GiB of hard drive, we need (X-1) local_gb | 19:57 |
| lucasagomes | but it seems that there's a big miscalculation of the partitions and whole disk size | 19:57 |
| devananda | lucasagomes, dtantsur, NobodyCam: on the image size, it sounds like there are a few problems entagled together | 19:57 |
| dtantsur | because of these 1 MiB in front and in the end | 19:57 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah | 19:57 |
| dtantsur | sure, I'm still trying to sort things out | 19:57 |
| devananda | would anyone mind summarizing the whole thing? perhaps an etherpad to sort it out, then an email with proposed solution | 19:57 |
| russell_h | We'd love to have someone add support to diskimage-builder for IPA. If no one else does it we might get around to it eventually, although I don't expect to actually use it. | 19:58 |
| devananda | russell_h: i plan to use it in the gate, fwiw | 19:58 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, we have that bug ticket, so we can put all the finds there | 19:58 |
| NobodyCam | ya I need dig in and see whats up there with the disk size stuff | 19:58 |
| devananda | russell_h: since DIB is alraedy in the gate to build the deploy ramdisk for PXE driver | 19:58 |
| russell_h | devananda: yes, thats the biggest driving factor for us | 19:58 |
| dtantsur | devananda, yeah, I'll be updating the ticket | 19:59 |
| devananda | russell_h: my assumption is that we'll continue to use it to build the deploy ramdisk for IPA driver too | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | tl;dr... seems that nova get's the properties/local_gb and use it as the root_gb, it's not counting the ephemeral size and/or swap size to calculate the size of the root partition | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | *one* minute warning beep | 19:59 |
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| dtantsur | yeah, it's one part of the problem | 19:59 |
| dtantsur | spacing is another | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | yeah | 20:00 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: sounds good | 20:00 |
| devananda | ok, time's up -- let's continue in channel if needed | 20:00 |
| devananda | thanks all! | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | great meeting all | 20:00 |
| dtantsur | thanks | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | thank you | 20:00 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 26 20:00:32 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-05-26-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-05-26-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | thanks | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-05-26-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| mordred | lifeless: done | 20:05 |
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| lifeless | mordred: I was wrong; see deva's reply ;) | 20:23 |
| mordred | lifeless: oh. piddle | 20:30 |
| * mordred goes to un-abandon | 20:30 | |
| mordred | devananda: ^^ I broke things by only reading the lines where someone pinged me | 20:31 |
| devananda | mordred: that's ok. the project is currently broken by zuul too | 20:36 |
| mordred | devananda: as long as it's not just me | 20:36 |
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| lifeless | mordred: you can unabandon :) | 20:37 |
| mordred | lifeless: I did | 20:37 |
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| mestery | Hi Neutron folks! | 20:59 |
| salv-orlando | aloha | 20:59 |
| rkukura | hi | 20:59 |
| armax | yello | 20:59 |
| banix | Haloooo | 20:59 |
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| kevinbenton | o/ | 21:00 |
| jlibosva | hi | 21:00 |
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| banix | OpenStack where we know no holidays :) | 21:00 |
| ihrachyshka | o/ | 21:00 |
| ihrachyshka | banix: well, not everyone lives in US :) | 21:00 |
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| enikanorov | hi | 21:00 |
| banix | exactly | 21:00 |
| mestery | enikanorov: Welcome back! How was the vacation? | 21:00 |
| ajo | hi :) | 21:00 |
| enikanorov | mestery: i need another vacation :D | 21:01 |
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| mestery | enikanorov: :P | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | hi | 21:01 |
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| mestery | OK, lets get started here. | 21:01 |
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| mestery | #startmeeting networking | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 26 21:01:40 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | we have quorum of cores? | 21:01 |
| mestery | markmcclain: You, me, rkukura, salv-orlando, armax ... we may be one short. :) | 21:02 |
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| mestery | SumitNaiksatam amotoki carl_baldwin arosen1: ping | 21:02 |
| carl_baldwin | pong, hi. | 21:02 |
| banix | the new core to the rescue :) | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | mestery: carl counts now :) | 21:02 |
| ajo | :-) | 21:02 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 21:03 |
| mestery | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:03 | |
| mestery | markmcclain: You gave Carl's promotion to core away early on me. :) | 21:03 |
| mestery | I'd like to welcome carl_baldwin to Neutron core! | 21:03 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: congrats | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | mestery: oops | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | carl_baldwin: congrats | 21:03 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks, I’m very glad to be on the team. It is a great team. | 21:03 |
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| mestery | carl_baldwin: The team is excited to have you onboard! | 21:04 |
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| mestery | I'd also like to highlight the two mid-cycles sprints in the agenda for people as well. | 21:04 |
| mestery | Ideally, it would be good to get one more core other than markmcclain and myself at hte LBaaS sprint in SAT in June. | 21:04 |
| mestery | Looks like we have a good number of people attending the nova-networking parity sprint in MN in July as well! | 21:05 |
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| mestery | Any other announcements for the team from anyone? | 21:05 |
| TheDamkot | First meeting ever... Does that count? | 21:06 |
| mestery | TheDamkot: Absolutely! Welcome! | 21:06 |
| TheDamkot | Thanks | 21:06 |
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| mestery | #topic Bugs | 21:06 |
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| mestery | Per the discussion from last week, I still need to get with jaypipes to document the MySQL Galera issue being discussed on the mailing list. | 21:07 |
| mestery | Are there any other bugs the team should be aware of at the moment? | 21:07 |
| enikanorov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1322945 ? | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1322945 in neutron "Attaching a IPv6 private subnet to a L3 Router, breaks it and its IPv4 Floating IPs" [High,New] | 21:07 |
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| mestery | Thanks for bringing that one up enikanorov, I have not read it yet. | 21:08 |
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| LLKCKfan | Hello | 21:09 |
| LLKCKfan | How can someone who is almost 30 and never had a job get one? I have been applying just to be told I am not what they are looking for or they are not hiring. | 21:09 |
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| mestery | I also wanted to mention in this section of hte meeting that we have a new "Neutron Bug Czar". enikanorov has volunteered for this role. | 21:10 |
| mestery | enikanorov: Thank you for doing this, this will be nice to have someone taking this on! | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | so in regards to 1322945 it is not going to work anyway | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | we do not activate v4 forwarding | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | oops… v6 | 21:10 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Can you put those notes in the bug? | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | mestery: yes will do | 21:11 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Thanks! | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal and team should be addressing this | 21:11 |
| mestery | OK, any other bugs to discuss right now before we move on? | 21:12 |
| enikanorov | not yet | 21:13 |
| mestery | thanks enikanorov | 21:13 |
| mestery | emagana is out today, so we'll skip Docs updates for this week. | 21:13 |
| mestery | #topic Nova Network Parity | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova Network Parity (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:13 | |
| mestery | markmcclain: Hi! | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | hi | 21:13 |
| mestery | I see one update in the agenda here around the DB migration meeting | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | right | 21:14 |
| mestery | Cool, anything else? | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | the team is meeting Tuesday at 1300UTC for the next two weeks | 21:14 |
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| mestery | Great! | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | that work should enable us to get grenade working properly | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | that's all I have since a few other contributors were on post summit holiday | 21:15 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Thank you! | 21:15 |
| mestery | #topic Tempest | 21:15 |
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| mestery | mlavalle: Hi, you wanted to update us on some tempest items today? | 21:15 |
| mlavalle | markmcclain: I just updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-nova-parity with the latest status of api tests | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | mlavalle: great | 21:15 |
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| mlavalle | mestery: to keep it short and sweet, just to let you know that over the past week we merged another 3 api tests | 21:16 |
| mestery | mlavalle: Great news! | 21:16 |
| mlavalle | I am also writing the spec in qa-specs for the scenarios we will implement in JKuno | 21:16 |
| mestery | mlavalle: That's great! Once that's posted, please share in our meeting so Neutron people can review that as well. | 21:17 |
| mlavalle | and I will keep and eye on nova parity to see how else I can help | 21:17 |
| mlavalle | that's all for today | 21:17 |
| mestery | Thanks mlavalle! | 21:17 |
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| mestery | I'm unsure if the other sub-teams have updated their agendas just yet, so I was thinking we could move into Open Discussion now unless someone has something from a sub-team they want to share today. | 21:18 |
| carl_baldwin | mestery: One thing. | 21:18 |
| mestery | carl_baldwin: Yes, please do! | 21:19 |
| * mestery also realizes carl_baldwin did update his section. :) | 21:19 | |
| carl_baldwin | DVR is heavy on my mind. We’ve created a how-to page. | 21:19 |
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| mestery | #topic DVR | 21:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DVR/HowTo | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | carl_baldwin: awesome | 21:19 |
| mestery | carl_baldwin: Awesome! | 21:19 |
| ajo | carl_baldwin, nice :-) | 21:19 |
| carl_baldwin | It doesn’t have much yet but I’m going to be working with Swami’s team on it this week. | 21:19 |
| mestery | carl_baldwin: I'd like to try this out in practice as well, thanks for sharing! | 21:19 |
| carl_baldwin | Anyone interested in getting their hands dirty can contact us to pitch in. | 21:20 |
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| carl_baldwin | That’s all I had. Everything else is up on the team wiki page. | 21:20 |
| mestery | carl_baldwin: Thanks! | 21:20 |
| carl_baldwin | Thank you. | 21:20 |
| mestery | #topic Open Discussion | 21:21 |
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| mestery | I know ihrachyshka had something on osl.messaging to discuss here. | 21:21 |
| mestery | *oslo.messaging | 21:21 |
| ihrachyshka | oslo.messaging port stuff, I wanted to inform you about it and have some questions | 21:21 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: Please go ahead. | 21:21 |
| LLKCKfan | How can someone who is almost 30 and never had a job get one? I have been applying just to be told I am not what they are looking for or they are not hiring. | 21:22 |
| ihrachyshka | so the patch is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75861/ , it's still WIP though mostly working (I have two issues unsolved - one with extensions not unloaded during UTs, another one about RPC version in LBAAS set incorrect) | 21:22 |
| ihrachyshka | we've discussed the patch with markmcclain today, he had some ideas re: future review | 21:22 |
| ihrachyshka | currently the patch is unreviewable because it's too large (+1981, -7816) | 21:23 |
| ihrachyshka | so that's about information (if anyone want to help me with debugging the remaining issues, don't hesitate to ask for details in person) | 21:23 |
| ihrachyshka | as for questions: | 21:23 |
| ihrachyshka | 1. this is a blueprint based patch, so does it mean we'll need to have a detailed spec pushed first? salv-orlando talked about possible exception for this | 21:24 |
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| markmcclain | seems like a very lightweight one would be possible | 21:25 |
| * markmcclain offers to assist writing | 21:25 | |
| mestery | I agree with markmcclain, I think a small BP would be good to have for this. | 21:25 |
| ihrachyshka | ok | 21:25 |
| ihrachyshka | markmcclain: thanks! | 21:25 |
| mestery | #action markmcclain to help ihrachyshka write the oslo.messaging spec. | 21:26 |
| ihrachyshka | 2. oslo.messaging does not have fake executor, so when we run UTs, we really invoke rpc listeners, and neutron currently does not have a way to stop listeners, so they probably sit there slowing down the whole run | 21:26 |
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| LLKCKfan | How can someone who is almost 30 and never had a job get one? I have been applying just to be told I am not what they are looking for or they are not hiring.+ | 21:26 |
| ihrachyshka | markmcclain said before that we are going to revisit plugins api to handle this among other things, but I don't know the current status | 21:26 |
| ihrachyshka | there was an idea to stop listeners on class destruction, but I guess that's not the best thing to do since python does not guarantee much in case of __del__ | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | ihrachyshka: yep we will put in the interim we should determine a solution since this will impact icehouse testing too | 21:27 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: why can’t the calls to invoke the listeners be mocked out? | 21:27 |
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| markmcclain | kevinbenton: +1 | 21:28 |
| mandeep | kevinbenton: +1 | 21:28 |
| ihrachyshka | kevinbenton: good idea. by changing BaseTestCase, right? | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: yeah | 21:28 |
| ihrachyshka | we don't want this to be per-test case, right | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachyshka: because this will be used in many cases | 21:28 |
| ihrachyshka | yes, I know, that's why I clarify :) | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | most plugins have a base test class | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | so we should be able to add it there | 21:29 |
| ihrachyshka | ok, good, I'll check the approach this week and update you on the matter | 21:29 |
| ihrachyshka | this would make stop_rpc_listener() not needed | 21:29 |
| ihrachyshka | markmcclain: you mean, not the VERY base class? some plugin specific? | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | yes not all plugins use RPC | 21:30 |
| ihrachyshka | or you mean we should strive isolating mocking to plugins tests if possible | 21:30 |
| ihrachyshka | good, I see. so that's a very valuable idea, thanks again kevinbenton | 21:31 |
| ihrachyshka | so basically that's all for oslo.messaging. again, if anyone wants to help me with remaining stuff, I would be glad :) | 21:31 |
| mestery | ihrachyshka: Thanks for the update on oslo.messging! | 21:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: as regards to sub team updates, for the advanced services framework, and fwaas, the progress is mostly waiting on review of blueprint specs | 21:32 |
| mestery | SumitNaiksatam: Got it, thanks! | 21:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | also on group policy, we will reorder the patches | 21:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so that endpoint groups lands first | 21:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and that way it can be tested to the driver layer | 21:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | you should see it shortly - just FYI | 21:33 |
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| mestery | Thanks for the update on GBP SumitNaiksatam! | 21:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sure | 21:34 |
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| mestery | I was hoping to keep today's meeting a bit shorter than normal, looks as if I may have succeeded. :) | 21:34 |
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| mestery | Unless anyone has anything else, I will give you all 26 minutes back! | 21:34 |
| mandeep | mestery: +1 ;-) | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | sounds like a good reason to discuss flavors! ;-) | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | I’d gladly head off to bed | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | mestery: thanks for the extra halt hour of sleep | 21:34 |
| mestery | Ha! | 21:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kebray: ha! :-) | 21:35 |
| * ihrachyshka rushes to my bed ;) | 21:35 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevinbenton: :-) | 21:35 |
| mestery | OK, thanks everyone! Keep up the reviews and remember to signup for a mid-cycle sprintg! | 21:35 |
| mestery | #endmeeting | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | I think you can discuss flavour without me | 21:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 26 21:35:14 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-05-26-21.01.html | 21:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-05-26-21.01.txt | 21:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-05-26-21.01.log.html | 21:35 |
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| salv-orlando | pls do not forget vanilla flavour. I like it. | 21:35 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: +1 | 21:35 |
| SumitNaiksatam | happy memorial day, bye! | 21:35 |
| mestery | ;) | 21:35 |
| armax | bye bye I'll go back to soaking in the sun! | 21:35 |
| armax | :) | 21:35 |
| mestery | armax: :P | 21:35 |
| rkukura | bye | 21:35 |
| mestery | armax: I just got in from the pool with the kids before this meeting! :) | 21:35 |
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| jlibosva | good night | 21:36 |
| amotoki | bye | 21:36 |
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| armax | mestery: nice one! | 21:36 |
| banix | bye everybody | 21:36 |
| mestery | armax: Enjoy the sun! | 21:36 |
| rkukura | time to finish my margarita and jump back in the neighbor’s pool | 21:36 |
| mestery | rkukura: Ha! Enjoy! | 21:36 |
| mandeep | rkukura: ;-) | 21:37 |
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| ajo | good night/afternoon ;) | 21:37 |
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