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| dhellmann | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Feb 28 14:00:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
| dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo | 14:00 |
| dhellmann | who's around for the oslo meeting? | 14:00 |
| rpodolyaka | o/ | 14:00 |
| zyluo | O/ | 14:00 |
| bnemec | o/ | 14:00 |
| gcb | o/ | 14:00 |
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| gcb | my first time :) | 14:00 |
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| dhellmann | welcome, gcb! | 14:00 |
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| dhellmann | dims, markmc, harlowja_away ping? | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | let's go ahead and start | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | #topic old business | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "old business (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:01 | |
| dhellmann | dhellmann track down owner of qpid test bug | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | handled and a patch has been submitted | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75853/ | 14:01 |
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| dhellmann | that's on our i-3 review list, so please take a look when you have time | 14:02 |
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| dhellmann | dhellmann talk to infra about whitelisting posix-ipc | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | resolved by having author upload to pypi instead | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | \o/ | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | jd__ should be happy with that | 14:02 |
| * dhellmann is noticing all of these tasks were assigned to himself, and makes a note to "delegate" more | 14:02 | |
| dhellmann | dhellmann look into deprecating oslo.sphinx on pypi without deleting it | 14:03 |
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| dhellmann | I'll have to carry that one over, unless someone else wants to look into it. We decided not to remove it entirely. | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | I think that's it, there were a couple of other things that markmc handled during the meeting last time | 14:03 |
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| dhellmann | #topic feature freeze EOB Tuesday March 4 | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "feature freeze EOB Tuesday March 4 (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:04 | |
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| dhellmann | we still have a few open reviews for blueprints or bugs targeted for this release | 14:04 |
| dhellmann | how do you all feel about our chances of landing them? | 14:04 |
| bnemec | I'm a little nervous about the qpid one. | 14:05 |
| dhellmann | the gate doesn't look very full yet today | 14:05 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75853/ | 14:05 |
| bnemec | I haven't looked at it closely, but 41 comments on the latest patch set isn't promising. :-) | 14:05 |
| dhellmann | yeah, there were a lot of style comments on that one | 14:05 |
| dhellmann | do we want to give those a pass and submit a follow-up patch to clean it up? | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | or maybe clean up the patch directly and resubmit? | 14:06 |
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| bnemec | It would be good to get some sort of test cases in, so I'd be okay with leaving the cleanup for later. | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | I don't recognize the owner's name | 14:07 |
| bnemec | Some tests > none :-) | 14:07 |
| dhellmann | +1 | 14:07 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I'll take another look with that in mind -- I have to admit to skipping it because of the large number of comments :-) | 14:07 |
| bnemec | Ditto :-) | 14:07 |
| dhellmann | rpodolyaka has a couple of db-related patches: | 14:07 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74963/ | 14:07 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74081/ | 14:08 |
| dhellmann | rpodolyaka, those are failing some of the basic checks -- are you going to have time to fix them up? | 14:08 |
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| * rpodolyaka looking | 14:08 | |
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| rpodolyaka | ha, so this are races | 14:08 |
| rpodolyaka | this must be fixed by one of the latest commit to infra | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | well, that second one fails pep8 | 14:09 |
| rpodolyaka | viktors run a recheck no bug a few seconds ago | 14:09 |
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| rpodolyaka | dhellmann: yeah, but this was a 'happy' run | 14:09 |
| viktors_away | yes, infra folks tells, that tests should pass now | 14:09 |
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| dhellmann | ok, good, so we'll watch for the recheck to finish and then review | 14:10 |
| rpodolyaka | dhellmann: when races are fixed, this must be good to go | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | rpodolyaka: good | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | sileht's notifier patch is almost ready to land: | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61675/ | 14:10 |
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| dhellmann | needs one more +2 | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | both, actually: | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70106/ | 14:11 |
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| dhellmann | dims, I don't have anything on this list for oslo.vmware -- how is that going? | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | do we have any release-critical reviews to do there? | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | oh, wait, he isn't here, nevermind | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | #action dhellmann check on oslo.vmware status with dims | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | the oslotest work is going well -- there are changes up now to add the symmetric gating jobs | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76654/ | 14:13 |
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| bnemec | \o/ | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76381/ | 14:13 |
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| dhellmann | and also for gate jobs for the other libraries we just adopted: | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76945/ | 14:14 |
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| dhellmann | those aren't *critical* for release, so I probably won't ask for more infra team time until after the deadline | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | let's just be careful about changes to oslotest in the mean time :-) | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | are there any other changes we need to be watching? | 14:15 |
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| bnemec | Nothing I can think of. | 14:15 |
| bnemec | Oh wait. | 14:16 |
| bnemec | harlowja_away's encoding change. | 14:16 |
| bnemec | Been meaning to get back to that and haven't yet. | 14:16 |
| bnemec | I think maybe that was targeted to i-3? | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71362/ | 14:16 |
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| bnemec | Yeah | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71362/ | 14:16 |
| sileht | dhellmann, unfortunatly we have found other issues for ceilometer in oslo.messaging after markmc have reviewing the ceilometer patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77136/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75365/ | 14:17 |
| bnemec | We really do need to stop str-ing things that could contain unicode data, so it would be nice to figure out how we want to handle that. | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: do you know the background there? it seemed odd to me that we didn't just add a __unicode__ method to the objects that need them | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | that's going to require some thought | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | sileht: ok, is there a bug for those that I can put on the i-3 list? | 14:18 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: One of the issues is user input. In theory someone could send us unicode data that can't be encoded in the current locale. | 14:18 |
| bnemec | The other thing was that we don't really test for that sort of thing, so having a safety net would be good. | 14:19 |
| sileht | dhellmann, hum I have just missed to link the review to the blueprint, I will add it now | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: and this function is the safety net? are developers expected to call it, or is this something we need to use in oslo libraries like logging? | 14:20 |
| dhellmann | sileht: ok | 14:20 |
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| bnemec | dhellmann: Both, I think. We would probably replace the six.text_type in the log adapter with this call, and all of the times we call str() on an object that could resolve to unicode would need to be replaced in the other projects. | 14:21 |
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| dhellmann | bnemec: I'm reluctant to rely on a utility function *everywhere* -- it seems like objects should always be able to give a valid unicode representation of themselves (not encoded), so shouldn't we just use unicode() or u'message %s' % obj? | 14:22 |
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| dhellmann | I do see the usefulness of calling it ourselves, though | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | my unicode-fu may need brushing up | 14:23 |
| bnemec | dhellmann: Yeah, that was my first thought, but we don't really have any tests for unicode edge cases so I figured better safe than sorry. | 14:23 |
| bnemec | Especially since they were going to be ripping out all the str calls anyway. | 14:24 |
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| bnemec | But I'm not opposed to just doing this in our code either. | 14:24 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, I'm torn. Maybe we can discuss the strategy for dealing with this on the mailing list. I'd like to get some input from the other projects before we introduce another sweeping change. | 14:25 |
| dhellmann | ok, we have a couple of other things to discuss, so lets move on | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | #topic security team participation | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "security team participation (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:26 | |
| bnemec | Yeah, I was actually hoping to do that after the last meeting. I'll follow up with harlowja_away and Jay Bryant since they were the ones pushing it. | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: ok, thanks | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | every time I think I have the full list of things we need to do to create a new library, someone points out another one :-) | 14:26 |
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| dhellmann | the vulnerability management team, rightly, points out that we should manage security issues for the libraries just as we do for the application projects | 14:27 |
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| dhellmann | did everyone have a chance to review the emails I forwarded? | 14:27 |
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| bnemec | Yep | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | basically, we need to designate 1-2 people to be the contacts for those issues | 14:28 |
| dhellmann | I'd like to have a contact listed for each library, even if the same person handles multiple, to make it easy for the security team to find the right name | 14:28 |
| dhellmann | and we need to put that list together soon | 14:28 |
| dhellmann | if you're interested, let me know so I can put your name down | 14:29 |
| dhellmann | if I don't have a full list, I'll start twisting arms to find volunteers :-) | 14:29 |
| zyluo | I'll help if it ok. | 14:29 |
| bnemec | I could at least be a contact. Not sure I have the security chops to make any definitive statements on vulnerabilities though. :-) | 14:30 |
| zyluo | Same here | 14:30 |
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| zyluo | S/It/it's | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: ditto :-) | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll talk to you offline about details | 14:31 |
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| dhellmann | one more topic on the official agenda | 14:31 |
| dhellmann | #topic removing oneliner functions for graduation | 14:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "removing oneliner functions for graduation (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:31 | |
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| dhellmann | zyluo, I think this is yours? | 14:31 |
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| zyluo | Yup they are mine | 14:32 |
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| zyluo | So there was a lot of progress | 14:32 |
| zyluo | With uuidutils | 14:32 |
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| zyluo | But neuton seems not to agree with this direction | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | do you have a link to that discussion? | 14:33 |
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| zyluo | It in the patch for neutron | 14:33 |
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| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58234/ | 14:33 |
| zyluo | So I was hoping to get a concensus in our team first to pursuade them | 14:34 |
| zyluo | Just a second I'll relogin | 14:34 |
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| zyluo | I'm back | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | ok | 14:36 |
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| dhellmann | it sounds like we have 2 big projects using this library | 14:36 |
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| zyluo | so I do assume everyone here agrees with removing generate_uuid() | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | the nova review: | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57588/ | 14:36 |
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| dhellmann | I'm questioning that conclusion now based on the actual feedback from other projects | 14:37 |
| zyluo | Yeah nova folks say the function should first be removed and then be fixed in Nova. | 14:37 |
| zyluo | So that won't be much of a problem. | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | they want us to remove it in oslo first? | 14:37 |
| zyluo | yeah. | 14:37 |
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| dhellmann | odd | 14:38 |
| zyluo | So maybe dhellmann you can talk with Neutron folks? | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | that would prevent them from syncing without removing it in nova at the same time | 14:38 |
| zyluo | I don't have much of a voice overthere. | 14:38 |
| zyluo | I guess they want it in one patch. Nova | 14:39 |
| bnemec | Then it'll be part of an oslo sync they can ignore. ;-) | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | and at this point in the cycle, we don't want to introduce changes to the incubator that prevent syncing, in case we find critical bugs during the release candidate period | 14:39 |
| * dhellmann hangs head in dispair | 14:39 | |
| zyluo | Ok so that's the situation with generate_uuid() | 14:40 |
| zyluo | if that gets removed we're only left with is_uuid_like. | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | zyluo: I'll have to look more closely at their comments, can you summarize their argument? | 14:40 |
| zyluo | dhellmann, sure | 14:40 |
| zyluo | So I suggest we move is_uuid_like to struils in the future. | 14:40 |
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| dhellmann | that needs to stay | 14:41 |
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| dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/GraduationStatus#uuidutils | 14:41 |
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| dhellmann | I have uuidutils as part of an oslol.utils library there | 14:41 |
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| dhellmann | I'm not sure why it wasn't oslo.text | 14:41 |
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| zyluo | oh ok then. | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | zyluo: what benefit do we gain from moving it? | 14:42 |
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| dhellmann | I might be wrong about the placement, so I'm open to talking about it | 14:42 |
| zyluo | well it just doesn't make sense having just one fuction in the module. | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | remember, though, the goal is not just to reduce the code in the incubator, it's to move it from the incubator to a library | 14:43 |
| zyluo | and most of the projects use strutils and is_uuiid_like is related with strings. | 14:43 |
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| zyluo | yeah what you're saying makes more sense I guess. | 14:43 |
| zyluo | So for uuidutils I'll work on graduating it after removing generate_uuid. | 14:44 |
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| zyluo | Then there is functions in timeutils which will turn out to be oneliners. | 14:44 |
| dhellmann | if the other projects want to keep using generate_uuid(), perhaps we should keep that, too? | 14:44 |
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| bnemec | It's a silly function, but we can't drop the module anyway so I wonder if it's worth arguing with them about it. | 14:44 |
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| dhellmann | that's more or less what I'm thinking | 14:45 |
| zyluo | But the thing is projects don't have common forms of uuids. | 14:45 |
| dhellmann | they don't? | 14:45 |
| zyluo | some use the hex form. | 14:45 |
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| bnemec | But they wouldn't be using this anyway, right? | 14:46 |
| zyluo | yeah | 14:46 |
| zyluo | I remember murano and keystone use hex | 14:46 |
| dhellmann | that might actually be a strong argument in favor of keeping it -- to ensure that the format *is* standard | 14:46 |
| dhellmann | how are the values typically stored in the database? does that vary between projects, too? | 14:47 |
| zyluo | values are all stored in string type, some in the canonical form, some in hex | 14:48 |
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| dhellmann | ok, well, changing that is a bigger project than we have time to discuss right now | 14:48 |
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| dhellmann | let's err on the side of keeping the function, I guess | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | zyluo: you had a similar question about timeutils? | 14:49 |
| zyluo | yeah I'm working on removing set_time_override and its related functions | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | zyluo: did you resolve jd__'s use case of mocking the default value for a sqlalchemy column? | 14:50 |
| zyluo | because there was a consensus of the function not qualifying for library. | 14:50 |
| zyluo | Yeah that was fixed. | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | ok, good | 14:51 |
| zyluo | So the problem is after all changes, utcnow() and utcnow_ts() are mere one liners. | 14:51 |
| dhellmann | IIRC, the thing we wanted to do was remove the test hooks, but keep the utility functions | 14:51 |
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| dhellmann | because having the utility functions made the mocking easier, even if we didn't provide explicit hooks | 14:52 |
| zyluo | then I assume they should move to oslo.test? | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | and, given that we have hooks for it, I assume we are doing a lot of mocking for time calls in tests somewhere | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | zyluo: no, production code cannot call oslo.test | 14:52 |
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| zyluo | but they will only be used in tests. | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | I don't think that's true | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | is there no production code using these functions now? | 14:53 |
| zyluo | I've greped all usage of set_time_override and they were only in test last time I checked. | 14:53 |
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| dhellmann | what about utcnow()? | 14:53 |
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| dhellmann | and utcnow_ts()? | 14:53 |
| zyluo | they are used in production. | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | those are the ones I'm talking about | 14:53 |
| zyluo | oh ok. | 14:54 |
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| zyluo | ok then. all questions solved from my part. | 14:54 |
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| dhellmann | so we should keep the functions that become one-liners, because having them as one-liners in our module makes them slightly easier to replace with mocks | 14:54 |
| zyluo | Got it. | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | and we should keep the other functions in that module that are doing things like formatting and parsing timestamps | 14:55 |
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| dhellmann | but all the stuff that was only used in tests, we want to drop -- if we can | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | although I think at this point in icehouse we should stop removing things | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | based on our discussion last time, we need to make sure we don't put the incubator into a state where syncing critical fixes causes problems | 14:56 |
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| bnemec | Probably. We're going to have enough of a headache trying to get nova back in sync. | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | because of conflicts or having to introduce large changes in other projects | 14:57 |
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| dhellmann | so zyluo, I think you've made good progress on this, but we should probably pick it back up after the feature-freeze is lifted | 14:57 |
| zyluo | well understood. thanks | 14:57 |
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| gcb | bnemec： yes:) | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | ok, we have just a couple of minutes left | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 14:58 |
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| bnemec | Speaking of which: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-oslo-incubator-sync-proof-of-concept | 14:58 |
| bnemec | I think the lockutils one should be taken care of now. | 14:58 |
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| dhellmann | you mean it is already fixed, or we need to fix it immediately? | 14:59 |
| bnemec | I mean jd__'s posix change should fix it. | 14:59 |
| dhellmann | ok, good | 14:59 |
| bnemec | We no longer use lock_path on Linux. | 14:59 |
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| dhellmann | I'll look over that list | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | we should talk about any issues on the ML | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | and we're out of time | 15:00 |
| bnemec | But anyway, we should get started on the Nova sync and find a list of the easy sync modules. | 15:00 |
| bnemec | Yep | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | thanks, everyone! | 15:00 |
| zyluo | I'll help with that, thanks! | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: jog0 has started some work on that | 15:00 |
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| bnemec | Yeah, he was the one who made the etherpad. | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Feb 28 15:00:44 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-02-28-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-02-28-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2014/oslo.2014-02-28-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | bnemec: ah, good | 15:00 |
| DinaBelova_ | #startmeeting climate | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Feb 28 15:00:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is DinaBelova_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: climate)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'climate' | 15:00 |
| DinaBelova_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| DinaBelova_ | bauzas, casanch1, cmart, ddyachkov, f_rossigneux, scroiset, SergeyLukjanov o/ | 15:01 |
| bauzas | o/ | 15:01 |
| ddyachkov | hi | 15:01 |
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| DinaBelova_ | hello | 15:01 |
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| bauzas | well, \o | 15:01 |
| DinaBelova_ | let's wait some mins | 15:01 |
| DinaBelova_ | and then start | 15:02 |
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| scroiset | o/ | 15:02 |
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| DinaBelova_ | scroiset, o/ | 15:02 |
| DinaBelova_ | nah, \o :) | 15:03 |
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| DinaBelova_ | I guess I see no intel guys here :) | 15:03 |
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| DinaBelova_ | Nikolay_St, you here? | 15:03 |
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| Nikolay_St | DinaBelova_: yeap | 15:04 |
| DinaBelova_ | ok, good | 15:04 |
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| DinaBelova_ | so waiting for Intel folks :) | 15:04 |
| casanch1 | o/ | 15:04 |
| bauzas | oh great | 15:04 |
| casanch1 | sorry, I was in a meeting | 15:04 |
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| casanch1 | pafuent will not come, he's on vacations | 15:05 |
| DinaBelova_ | casanch1 \o | 15:05 |
| bauzas | people who have meetings on Fridays, tss tss.. :p | 15:05 |
| casanch1 | hehe | 15:05 |
| DinaBelova_ | ok, so today's agenda | 15:05 |
| bauzas | (just kidding= | 15:05 |
| DinaBelova_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Climate | 15:05 |
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| DinaBelova_ | and some usual start :) | 15:05 |
| DinaBelova_ | #topic Action items from the last meeting + reviews queries | 15:05 |
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| DinaBelova_ | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2014/climate.2014-02-21-15.01.html | 15:05 |
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| DinaBelova_ | ok, as for some Program, etc. discussions | 15:06 |
| bauzas | yey | 15:06 |
| bauzas | I'm on it | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova_ | I've written all that stuff on wiki + we have etherpad | 15:06 |
| bauzas | I quickly made my way through the Program proposal | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova_ | to comment, etc | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova_ | yes | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-program | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-incubation | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova_ | I'm going to send incubation application request today evening | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova_ | after all questions will be discussed | 15:07 |
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| bauzas | the rationale for creating a new program must be written carefully, and is maybe currently a bit weak IMHO | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova_ | but anyway, there is special topic for it | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova_ | :) | 15:07 |
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| DinaBelova_ | bauzas, yes - and that's why i really asked all of you to take a look on it last meeting | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova_ | I guess you had no time, guys... | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova_ | but anyway | 15:08 |
| bauzas | and I totally recognize I missed it :( | 15:08 |
| casanch1 | same here :( | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova_ | :D | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova_ | don't worry | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova_ | we have some nice hours for it :) | 15:08 |
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| Nikolay_St | me too | 15:08 |
| bauzas | I was thinking we were waiting for new name ? | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova_ | all wiki is finished now - except these moments | 15:09 |
| bauzas | nah ? | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova_ | bauzas, as I said on etherpad | 15:09 |
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| DinaBelova_ | incubation-status | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova_ | we're in the process of renaming | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova_ | but that's not stopper | 15:09 |
| bauzas | yup indeed | 15:09 |
| bauzas | saw it | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova_ | 'cause we're already working ot it | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova_ | and it'll take much time for TC anyway | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova_ | as for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75189/ change | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova_ | that also was in action items | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova_ | I guess Sylvain & I looked at it | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova_ | and I remember I asked you, casanch1, to get in touch with Joel | 15:10 |
| DinaBelova_ | and discuss if it'll be ok - such implementation | 15:11 |
| bauzas | yup, I made a quick glance | 15:11 |
| casanch1 | DinaBelova_ yes I did | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova_ | casanch1, did you have it? | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova_ | ok | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova_ | and what are the results? | 15:11 |
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| casanch1 | but he didn't reply | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova_ | :D | 15:11 |
| casanch1 | so I will make sure to contact him today | 15:11 |
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| DinaBelova_ | ok, please write him one more time | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova_ | thanks | 15:12 |
| casanch1 | but I think this implementation should be fine | 15:12 |
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| DinaBelova_ | ok, anyway - let me know | 15:12 |
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| casanch1 | I made some more changes and managed to make it look more like Nova's implementation | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova_ | as for other action items, they are done | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova_ | yes, I saw that | 15:12 |
| casanch1 | now I'm working on the unit tests, so I will upload the "final" version today | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova_ | I'll take one more look on it | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova_ | casanch1, cool | 15:12 |
| bauzas | casanch1: will review it later on | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova_ | really nice | 15:12 |
| casanch1 | great, thanks | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova_ | next topic | 15:13 |
| DinaBelova_ | #topic Closing voting for first 5 new name candidates | 15:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Closing voting for first 5 new name candidates (Meeting topic: climate)" | 15:13 | |
| DinaBelova_ | m-m-m, I see no topic changed, strange :( | 15:13 |
| bauzas | ... | 15:13 |
| bauzas | got it | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova_ | yes | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova_ | and finally we have Friday :) | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova_ | so there is time to close our voting | 15:14 |
| dpamio_ | yeap, bot was sleeping. | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova_ | I'll finish it in two hours | 15:14 |
| bauzas | sure, give results please :D | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova_ | dpamio_, thanks | 15:14 |
| DinaBelova_ | I'll send email about it | 15:15 |
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| DinaBelova_ | at the moment we have 85% electorate voted | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova_ | that's nice :) | 15:15 |
| bauzas | argh, can't wait for it :p | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova_ | So we'll have top 5 candidates | 15:15 |
| bauzas | that's better than for the PTL election | 15:15 |
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| DinaBelova_ | :D | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova_ | yes | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova_ | after that I'll send this list to OS lawers | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova_ | to be sure these names areok | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova_ | are ok * | 15:15 |
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| bauzas | ok | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova_ | while we'll have 2nd round of voting | 15:15 |
| DinaBelova_ | we'll have results I guess at the same time - final name + lawers research | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova_ | and we'll choose due to both these criteria | 15:16 |
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| DinaBelova_ | I think it's ok | 15:16 |
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| DinaBelova_ | and that's everything I wanted to say in this topic | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova_ | some comments? | 15:16 |
| casanch1 | nop | 15:17 |
| Nikolay_St | no | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova_ | ok | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova_ | #topic Incubation request | 15:17 |
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| DinaBelova_ | *waiting for bot :)* | 15:17 |
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| DinaBelova_ | and yes :) | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova_ | the most interesting one | 15:17 |
| bauzas | yay | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova_ | as said, there are two etherpad docs | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-incubation and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-program | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova_ | *please* comment them | 15:18 |
| DinaBelova_ | at least, I may send this request tomorrow or somewhen | 15:18 |
| DinaBelova_ | but I'll really appreciate your ideas | 15:18 |
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| bauzas | :) | 15:18 |
| DinaBelova_ | In next 2-3 hours I'll prepare new docs | 15:18 |
| bauzas | I'm on it | 15:18 |
| DinaBelova_ | with fixes | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova_ | bauzas, I see your comments :) | 15:19 |
| dpamio_ | bauzas is doing it as we speak ;) | 15:19 |
| casanch1 | I'll go over it | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova_ | casanch1, thanks | 15:19 |
| bauzas | I already reviewed the incubation one without strong problems | 15:19 |
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| DinaBelova_ | and after new variant - I'll send email with one more ask for one more look :) | 15:19 |
| bauzas | as said, the program just needs to be clearer | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova_ | yes, I guess so | 15:19 |
| bauzas | at least the rationale | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova_ | your variants are welcome ;) | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova_ | if I'll have no opportunity to finish it today | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova_ | I need to ask all of you for one thing | 15:20 |
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| DinaBelova_ | if so, please, check your working email address - if I'll publish doc tomorrow - please, spend some 5 mins to take a look on it | 15:21 |
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| DinaBelova_ | even tomorrow - if you'll have such opportunity | 15:21 |
| Nikolay_St | DinaBelova_: ok. | 15:21 |
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| bauzas | DinaBelova_: please use my private one :) | 15:21 |
| DinaBelova_ | I'd love all this to be done today - but I understand that you had no time this week | 15:22 |
| bauzas | if you still got it | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova_ | ok | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova_ | :) | 15:22 |
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| bauzas | DinaBelova_: nah, to be honest, I forgot about it :( | 15:22 |
| bauzas | my bad | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova_ | so thanks for understanding and some Saturday potential working mins :) | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova_ | I suppose that won't take much time | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova_ | 'cause it's almost done already | 15:23 |
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| bauzas | yup | 15:23 |
| casanch1 | DinaBelova_ ok | 15:23 |
| DinaBelova_ | so I'll send incubation email to dev ml as everything will be checked :) | 15:23 |
| bauzas | nice | 15:23 |
| DinaBelova_ | I think we're close :) | 15:23 |
| DinaBelova_ | to this moment :) | 15:23 |
| DinaBelova_ | of incubation email :) | 15:23 |
| DinaBelova_ | that's all I wanted to discuss in this topic | 15:24 |
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| DinaBelova_ | your ideas? | 15:24 |
| Nikolay_St | so I miss the point | 15:24 |
| DinaBelova_ | Nikolay_St, yes? | 15:24 |
| bauzas | indeed , we think we're done | 15:24 |
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| bauzas | ^I think | 15:24 |
| Nikolay_St | DinaBelova_: can I take a look at etherpad tomorrow early morning? or it's better to do it now? | 15:24 |
| bauzas | (not speaking as 'we' yet :D) | 15:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | o/ I'm partially here ;) | 15:24 |
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| DinaBelova_ | Nikolay_St - better now :) | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova_ | 'cause I'd love to send email today | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova_ | to catch US working day | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova_ | SergeyLukjanov, o/ | 15:25 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'll review both etherpads later today | 15:25 |
| Nikolay_St | DinaBelova_: I'll try :D | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova_ | SergeyLukjanov, thanks | 15:25 |
| Nikolay_St | SergeyLukjanov: \o | 15:25 |
| DinaBelova_ | Nikolay_St, I know you're not left handed :P | 15:25 |
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| DinaBelova_ | ok, so open discussion | 15:26 |
| DinaBelova_ | #topic Open discussion | 15:26 |
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| DinaBelova_ | that time bot was quick :) | 15:26 |
| DinaBelova_ | any questions? | 15:26 |
| bauzas | not really :) | 15:26 |
| Nikolay_St | DinaBelova_: I prefer to do some things with left hand. Chokes, for example :D | 15:26 |
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| DinaBelova_ | 'cause I'll be glad to finish this meeting now to give you time for etherpad review :) | 15:26 |
| DinaBelova_ | Nikolay_St :D | 15:26 |
| bauzas | :D :D :D | 15:26 |
| DinaBelova_ | casanch1, dpamio_? | 15:27 |
| scroiset | just FYI I'll be in vacation next week .. with no internet | 15:27 |
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| DinaBelova_ | scroiset, wow, poor guy :) | 15:27 |
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| DinaBelova_ | or happy one :( | 15:27 |
| DinaBelova_ | :D | 15:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | DinaBelova_, are you planning to send Incubation Application today? | 15:27 |
| Nikolay_St | :d | 15:27 |
| scroiset | with snow .. yes hard time | 15:27 |
| bauzas | coding is possible even without internet :p | 15:27 |
| casanch1 | FYI: next Monday and Tuesday are holiday in Argentina | 15:27 |
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| DinaBelova_ | SergeyLukjanov, I'll try to - if no - tomorrow | 15:27 |
| casanch1 | so we won't come to the office | 15:27 |
| SergeyLukjanov | DinaBelova_, great | 15:27 |
| dpamio_ | There are holidays in ARG coming next week | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova_ | almost all Climate team had no time this week for review | 15:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | DinaBelova_, do you already have an application on wiki page? | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova_ | SergeyLukjanov - so they'll do it now | 15:28 |
| bauzas | ... or forgot it :( | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova_ | yes :) | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova_ | bauzas, I'm hiding you, do not show it :) | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova_ | SergeyLukjanov - yes - we have everything :) | 15:28 |
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| DinaBelova_ | ehterpad is used to leave comments | 15:28 |
| bauzas | (uhuh) | 15:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | oh | 15:28 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I have a small update | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova_ | SergeyLukjanov? | 15:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | about Savanna renaming timing | 15:29 |
| DinaBelova_ | yes, please | 15:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | our plan is to have new name selected till the next weekend | 15:29 |
| DinaBelova_ | - our too | 15:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and perfrorm renaming on the weekend | 15:29 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's the optimistic plan | 15:29 |
| DinaBelova_ | bauzas, casanch1, Nikolay_St - I guess it's ok for us too? | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova_ | we'll fix all jobs | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova_ | just after renaming | 15:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | but we're still waiting for verification results from lawyers | 15:30 |
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| bauzas | ok that sounds good | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova_ | SergeyLukjanov - I'll send this email too | 15:30 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and we decided to have 2 business days long voting to choose the final name | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova_ | to check law-related questions today | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova_ | SergeyLukjanov, ok, cool | 15:31 |
| DinaBelova_ | I gues it's ok | 15:31 |
| DinaBelova_ | so let's finish meeting | 15:31 |
| DinaBelova_ | and you'll go and comment etherpad :) | 15:31 |
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| DinaBelova_ | bye :) | 15:31 |
| casanch1 | ok! | 15:31 |
| scroiset | ++ | 15:31 |
| DinaBelova_ | #endmeeting | 15:32 |
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| Nikolay_St | bye :) | 15:32 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Feb 28 15:32:08 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2014/climate.2014-02-28-15.00.html | 15:32 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2014/climate.2014-02-28-15.00.txt | 15:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2014/climate.2014-02-28-15.00.log.html | 15:32 |
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| vishy | schwicke: sorry I got tied up on the train today due to a mechanical failure | 17:04 |
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