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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting ironic | 19:00 |
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| NobodyCam | Welcome to the Ironic Meeting. | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | Who's here today for the meeting? | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 8 19:00:45 2013 UTC. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 19:00 |
| romcheg | Hi | 19:00 |
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| romcheg | o/ | 19:01 |
| martyntaylor | howdi | 19:01 |
| anteaya | o/ | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | welcome GheRivero romcheg martyntaylor anteaya | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | ok so no devananda again this week he should be in a plane right about now. :) | 19:01 |
| anteaya | hope he is having fun | 19:01 |
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| romcheg | having fun… in the plane... | 19:02 |
| romcheg | :-P | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | lol I know his boarding was delayed. | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | here's today's agenda | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 19:02 |
| anteaya | as a result of the plane, perhaps | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | first up: | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | #topic API implementation and refactoring | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35990/ | 19:03 |
| NobodyCam | No JimJiang today | 19:03 |
| romcheg | I think authentication is covered by this topic, isn't it? | 19:03 |
| NobodyCam | we have a topic just for that | 19:04 |
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| romcheg | Ah yes, sorry | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | :) hehehe | 19:04 |
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| epim | yay meetings | 19:04 |
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| NobodyCam | welcome epim | 19:04 |
| martyntaylor | I want to make the observation that we have a considerable amount of code that could be generalised and reused across the API | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | if there are no comments for this one we will move on | 19:05 |
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| martyntaylor | It maybe best to look at this post v1 of the API implementation | 19:05 |
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| NobodyCam | martyntaylor: do you have an example of this | 19:05 |
| NobodyCam | (* ie what you are thinking about) | 19:06 |
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| martyntaylor | NobodyCam: not an exact example but with minor tweaks we can for example for create single methods for POST, PUT, DELETE controller actions in a base controller | 19:06 |
| martyntaylor | since they are all very similar | 19:06 |
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| martyntaylor | I have some code on my tree that I wanted to get in that helps with some of this stuff | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | ahh ok. ya I think that may be best handled after we get v1 going | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | we need SOMETHNING then we can make it better | 19:07 |
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| martyntaylor | NobodyCam: I did run into slight issue with the new RPC model stuff romcheg did you add a comment to the agenda re our discussion this morning | 19:07 |
| martyntaylor | NobodyCam: agreed | 19:07 |
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| romcheg | Ah, just got disconnected | 19:08 |
| martyntaylor | romcheg: romcheg did you add a comment to the agenda re our discussion this morning | 19:08 |
| martyntaylor | ah this one I guess: Object model: Loading object trees | 19:08 |
| romcheg | Yes, I have added a topic after RPC implementation | 19:08 |
| martyntaylor | ok I can wait until we get that far | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:08 |
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| NobodyCam | move on then? | 19:09 |
| martyntaylor | NobodyCam: sorry please continue | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | NP :) | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | #topic API checking of keystone auth token | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | ok here we go | 19:09 |
| romcheg | Unfortunately I haven't finish with that yet. | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg: did you have a chance to look at this in out short holiday week | 19:09 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | its tuff when its a holiday | 19:10 |
| romcheg | I have a code that is based on pecan hooks | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | good to bump to next meeting | 19:10 |
| romcheg | Trying to deal with pecan.deploy instead | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | very cool. do you think you'd be able to put it up for review before next weeks meeting | 19:11 |
| romcheg | I think so. | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | #action bump keystone auth check to next meeting | 19:11 |
| romcheg | Do you think hooks can do the job for us or we need to deal with pecan.deploy to look like other openstack projects? | 19:12 |
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| NobodyCam | I'm think the peacan.deploy ... if just to stay in sync with other projects | 19:12 |
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| NobodyCam | *thinking | 19:12 |
| NobodyCam | any other comments? | 19:13 |
| NobodyCam | or move on? | 19:13 |
| romcheg | yup | 19:13 |
| NobodyCam | #topic RPC implementation for lock-aware API calls | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | ok we had this: | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34115/ (now outdated!) | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | I know its outdated. I'm hoping deva will have a chance to update it | 19:14 |
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| romcheg | I think devananda wil put his hands on that as soon as he's back | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | any one want to make any comments on this | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | ya I do too | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | ok then moving on. (I love it when meeting go quickly :-p) | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Object model: Loading object trees | 19:16 |
| martyntaylor | ah yes so I think I can try an explain this | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:16 |
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| romcheg | Yes, that's an interesting problem | 19:16 |
| martyntaylor | So, it seems that the object model stuff we inherited from Nova is screwed driectly into the DB API calls | 19:17 |
| martyntaylor | i.e. each class implements _from_db_object | 19:17 |
| martyntaylor | which takes a result from a db api call and translates it into this nova esc model | 19:18 |
| martyntaylor | this is fine when we are dealing with simply objects 1 -> 1 | 19:18 |
| martyntaylor | but gets more complex when we have object trees | 19:18 |
| martyntaylor | like for example a node object with a number of ports, chassis, driver and so on | 19:18 |
| martyntaylor | SQLAlchemy would normally handle this sort of stuff, example would be specifying ("join" on the lazy attribute for a relationship would auto load that resource too | 19:19 |
| martyntaylor | I guess we are going to need to implement this behaviour ourselves unless anyone else has any ideas on this? | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | can we patch nova to handle the complex objects? | 19:20 |
| martyntaylor | I suppose we could implement a default behaviour | 19:21 |
| martyntaylor | or implement it for each resource | 19:21 |
| romcheg | I think we have to implement this for each db object | 19:22 |
| martyntaylor | yes I am thinking that too, though it might be worth investigating how this is handled else where, I wanted to bring up in here in case anyone has experience with this in other projects? | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | lets start by fliing a bug for ironic and see if we can get some more eyes one it | 19:23 |
| martyntaylor | sure | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | I also need to look at more closly | 19:23 |
| romcheg | We need to check that in nova | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | ya. | 19:24 |
| romcheg | I think they might have implemented a solution for that | 19:24 |
| martyntaylor | OK so I'll file a bug, and look at nova as the first point of call | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | :) cool!!!! | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | good to move on? or stay on topic | 19:26 |
| martyntaylor | sure move on | 19:26 |
| martyntaylor | thanks | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | :) will get some eyes (like deva's) on the bug | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | #topic PXE driver and Image utils refactoring | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | Ghe has done some awesome work here | 19:26 |
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| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33616/ | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35272/ | 19:27 |
| GheRivero | iamge utils is waiting in glanceclient also (just some cosmetical issues) and ready to land | 19:27 |
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| GheRivero | meanwhile, the same has been ported to ironic, so we can move on in case it takes more time | 19:27 |
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| GheRivero | related pxe... just some small issues, mostly cosmetical | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | Ghe has bugs to track the removal once it lands | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | this is a bug step for ironic | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | getting close to actually being able to "DO SOMETHING" :) | 19:29 |
| * anteaya imagine what a bug step looks like | 19:29 | |
| anteaya | s | 19:29 |
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| GheRivero | :) | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | any comments for Ghe? | 19:30 |
| anteaya | yay Ghe | 19:30 |
| anteaya | good work | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | again Thank you Ghe | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | moving on then | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Ironic standup / D.I.B. element status | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | oh this is me | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | I didn't get as much done over the holiday as I would have liked | 19:31 |
| anteaya | apparently you enjoyed yourself though | 19:31 |
| anteaya | which is good | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | I started to convert manager to conductor this morning | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | I told lucasagomes this morning I would try and have something up for him to look at today | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | so I gota get off my rear | 19:33 |
| NobodyCam | any comments / questions for me? | 19:33 |
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| NobodyCam | ok then now we can move on to the fun stuff | 19:34 |
| NobodyCam | #topic open discussion | 19:34 |
| NobodyCam | and heres the mission statement preview. NOTE THIS JUST A PREVIEW. We welcome all input on it. | 19:34 |
| NobodyCam | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/6QnkRmwYXg49Qxa1x5dD/ | 19:34 |
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| NobodyCam | any comments / questions on the mission statement? | 19:36 |
| anteaya | any background on this? | 19:36 |
| anteaya | so far who has been involved in the creation of this preview? | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | well | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | this is an initial draft from deva | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | I got it this morning | 19:37 |
| anteaya | great | 19:37 |
| anteaya | okay | 19:37 |
| anteaya | now what is the larger context for this mission statement (I kind of know, but let's get it in the logs)? | 19:38 |
| NobodyCam | last week in the TCL meeting they voted to make programs vs. projects | 19:38 |
| NobodyCam | as a result of that Ironic will become a progaram | 19:38 |
| NobodyCam | and we will need a mission statement | 19:38 |
| NobodyCam | the above is the first draft of this | 19:39 |
| anteaya | "Ironic will become a program subject to approval by the TC after the incubation period", yes? | 19:39 |
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| anteaya | hey jbjohnso we are just looking at this first draft of the ironic mission statement: http://paste.openstack.org/show/6QnkRmwYXg49Qxa1x5dD/ | 19:41 |
| NobodyCam | no we will automatically be come a progeram (as I under stand it) | 19:41 |
| NobodyCam | we are already core | 19:41 |
| anteaya | okay, I differ in understanding but that is a conversation for another time | 19:41 |
| anteaya | back to the mission statement draft | 19:41 |
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| JimJiang | What's the difference of programs and projects of htat meeting? | 19:42 |
| anteaya | projects are repositories | 19:42 |
| anteaya | programs can have many repositories | 19:42 |
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| anteaya | so a program can have many projects | 19:42 |
| JimJiang | I see | 19:43 |
| anteaya | for instance openstack-infrastructure is a program that has many projects | 19:43 |
| jbjohnso | hmm, on the 'use only open/standard 'tools', does that include open implementation of proprietary non-standard stuff? | 19:43 |
| anteaya | so the TC approves of the program | 19:43 |
| anteaya | and the program can create the repositories it needs to fulfill its mission | 19:43 |
| NobodyCam | jbjohnso: here is the notes from the TC meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2013/tc.2013-07-02-20.01.log.html | 19:43 |
| anteaya | this is a new move since previous to this we only had projects and everything was a project | 19:43 |
| NobodyCam | we have one more topic to get through | 19:44 |
| jbjohnso | e.g. I was considering that the python-ipmi library would have a scheme for vendors to extend certain generic concepts with proprietary backing | 19:45 |
| jbjohnso | e.g. 'sensor' data to include LED state | 19:45 |
| anteaya | jbjohnso: that sounds like it would fit the core, standard, vendor divisions of ironic | 19:45 |
| NobodyCam | ya | 19:45 |
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| anteaya | with vendor being a division allowing vendors to do as they choose | 19:45 |
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| NobodyCam | jbjohnso: kinda like the vendor passthru in iRonic | 19:46 |
| NobodyCam | ? | 19:46 |
| jbjohnso | anteaya, right, so if python-ipmi has the sensor dict or object have members that are populated according to OEM backends... | 19:46 |
| anteaya | I am light on details | 19:47 |
| anteaya | but I think that written the correct way, it is possible | 19:47 |
| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, to use xCAT as an example 'rvitals' shows all the normal stuff (temp/fans/etc) on any bmc | 19:47 |
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| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, but it also looks at the manufacturer and jumps to manufacturer defined schemes for more 'vitals' | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | ahh ok | 19:47 |
| jbjohnso | northbound of the library, they are just more key,type,value tuples | 19:48 |
| jbjohnso | (essentially) | 19:48 |
| NobodyCam | let me get this last topic on the plate | 19:48 |
| NobodyCam | jbjohnso: /me need to look more closly at xcat | 19:48 |
| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, it's in perl... | 19:48 |
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| NobodyCam | last up.. file injection in images. (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-May/008728.html) | 19:49 |
| NobodyCam | Ghe? | 19:49 |
| GheRivero | one of the options actually missing in ironic is fileinjection | 19:49 |
| GheRivero | the discussion mainly raises security and scalability concerns | 19:49 |
| GheRivero | but no consensuss was reached | 19:50 |
| jbjohnso | AFter much contemplation on that, my vote is that any 'special' stuff should be scoped to a single credential exchange | 19:50 |
| NobodyCam | GheRivero: am I correct in my understanding that we currently NEED file injection? | 19:50 |
| jbjohnso | and then some secure network protocl scheme be used for a while | 19:50 |
| jbjohnso | for the rest | 19:50 |
| jbjohnso | I don't know what I'm talking about, but I heard the word metadata service crop up | 19:51 |
| GheRivero | NobodyCam: uhmm. i think everything can be done with cloud-init | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | jbjohnso: hows that secure cred exchange lib comming along? | 19:51 |
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| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, well, I can offer options, but didn't know if there was a consensus | 19:51 |
| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, e.g. you could say 'all PXE booted nodes shallbe chained to ipxe' | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | GheRivero: how about inital network config | 19:51 |
| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, and then embed site creds in that payload to auth https downloads | 19:52 |
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| GheRivero | that0s the one i am looking now | 19:52 |
| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, and static net config | 19:52 |
| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, then you could close the security loop by using a remote media ipl strategy | 19:52 |
| jbjohnso | and the insecure path could remain, and converge early with the secure path | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | there was an effort to remove FI from nova baremetal | 19:53 |
| jbjohnso | now the question is on the flip side | 19:53 |
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| NobodyCam | and I believe its still there | 19:53 |
| GheRivero | yeah...all people want to get rid of it, once a fully replacement is done... but i don't know the missing pieces | 19:54 |
| jbjohnso | the flip side I can think of three paths | 19:54 |
| NobodyCam | fyi we have 5 minutes left inthe room | 19:54 |
| jbjohnso | network link local (limits network switch choice, fragile in the face of... exotic network configs) | 19:54 |
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| jbjohnso | serial (standard, my favorite, some people look at you weird for saying serial) | 19:54 |
| NobodyCam | GheRivero: can I add a action item for you to look in to the FI stuff | 19:55 |
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| jbjohnso | and bmc storage (proprietary, differs vendor to vendor, limits compute vendor selection) | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | jbjohnso: serial over lan? | 19:55 |
| GheRivero | sure | 19:55 |
| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, yeah | 19:55 |
| jbjohnso | NobodyCam, *iff* you manage IPMI correctly (big assertion), then it's nice and *mutually* authenticated | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | #action Ghe to look into file injection issues in ironic. (ie do we need it) | 19:55 |
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| jbjohnso | conceptually, you are extending chain of trust based on ipmi device | 19:56 |
| jbjohnso | you have to extend trust from something else without any existing state | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | jbjohnso: not today but maybe tomorrow lets talk about hte serial thing | 19:56 |
| jbjohnso | the ethernet switch and the service processor are the only two candidates.. | 19:56 |
| jbjohnso | ok | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | I like that | 19:57 |
| NobodyCam | nice a univeral | 19:57 |
| NobodyCam | s/a/and/ | 19:57 |
| NobodyCam | * Universal | 19:57 |
| jbjohnso | I actually did the switch one already in another project (not public), but without SNMP and LLDP-MIB.... it's less interesting. It also limits keysize to something that can fit in 255 bytes base64... | 19:57 |
| jbjohnso | but that key is valid for a few seconds, so it's no big deal... | 19:58 |
| jbjohnso | but the snmp/lldp stuff is a bigger deal | 19:58 |
| NobodyCam | humm | 19:58 |
| jbjohnso | since pci passthrough *and* cheap switches impact it | 19:59 |
| anteaya | time to wrap up, methinks | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | yep | 19:59 |
| anteaya | great meeting NobodyCam | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | wanted to THANK YOU ALL FOR THE GREAT WORK | 19:59 |
| anteaya | back to the room | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 8 19:59:53 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-07-08-19.00.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-07-08-19.00.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-07-08-19.00.log.html | 19:59 |
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| lifeless | Morning all tripleoers. | 20:01 |
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| lifeless | #startmeeting tripleo | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 8 20:01:55 2013 UTC. The chair is lifeless. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 20:01 |
| lifeless | #topic agenda | 20:02 |
| NobodyCam | morning lifeless :) | 20:02 |
| lifeless | bugs | 20:02 |
| lifeless | Grizzly test rack status | 20:02 |
| lifeless | CI virtualized testing progress | 20:02 |
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| lifeless | open discussion | 20:02 |
| lifeless | #topic bugs | 20:02 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 20:02 |
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| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-config-applier | 20:03 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 20:03 |
| SpamapS | bug 1182249 and bug 1183223 are still kind of in limbo due to ordering things.. once I finish integrating orc and oac with occ I can address them | 20:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1182249 in tripleo "quantum configuration is overly hardcoded" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1182249 | 20:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1183223 in tripleo "nova-compute.yaml missing parameters" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1183223 | 20:03 |
| lifeless | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 20:03 |
| lifeless | cool | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | occ "works" now | 20:04 |
| lifeless | bug 1182241 I have in hand | 20:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1182241 in tripleo "first-boot.d rules are running on every boot" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1182241 | 20:04 |
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| lifeless | With my stack of patches landing | 20:04 |
| lifeless | all the boot-stack first-boot rules are now orc rules | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | swweeeeeeetttt | 20:05 |
| lifeless | except one fedora one which I've mentioned to lucasgnomes/derekh | 20:05 |
| lifeless | Ng: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35943/ doesn't look like you actually clicked on it | 20:05 |
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| lifeless | Ng: I may have misunderstood your IRC feedback | 20:06 |
| lifeless | bug 1189385 and bug 1184484 seem stalled neutron side | 20:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1189385 in tripleo "quantum-server hung up it's listening port" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189385 | 20:07 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1184484 in tripleo "Quantum default settings will cause deadlocks due to overflow of sqlalchemy_pool" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184484 | 20:07 |
| lifeless | #action lifeless follow up on those bugs | 20:07 |
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| lifeless | and thats all our criticals. | 20:09 |
| lifeless | I haven't actually rearranged highs yet, OTOH I started closing some myself. | 20:09 |
| lifeless | Perhaps we don't need to rearrange, just have folk start cherrypicking highs ? | 20:09 |
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| SpamapS | +1 for cherry pick | 20:10 |
| SpamapS | a bug a week will keep us from getting burried | 20:10 |
| lifeless | ok | 20:11 |
| lifeless | anymore bugs discussion ? | 20:11 |
| SpamapS | do we need a bug tracker for orc and occ? | 20:12 |
| lifeless | we have one for orc | 20:12 |
| lifeless | didn't I link it? | 20:12 |
| Ng | lifeless: fixed. I thought I had clicked that one | 20:12 |
| lifeless | I did : https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 20:12 |
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| SpamapS | ah yes later | 20:12 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: ok so occ will need one too | 20:12 |
| lifeless | lets us the same lp teams as tripleo does | 20:13 |
| lifeless | I don't think we need per-project granularity - or do we? | 20:13 |
| SpamapS | no definitely not | 20:13 |
| lifeless | Ng: thanks! | 20:13 |
| SpamapS | 1 team should handle tripleo-* and os-* for now | 20:13 |
| lifeless | and dib :) | 20:14 |
| lifeless | okies | 20:14 |
| SpamapS | yeah KISS :) | 20:14 |
| lifeless | #topic Grizzly test rack status | 20:14 |
| lifeless | Still working. | 20:14 |
| lifeless | We had some reports of instance startup glitchiness, but haven't actually confirmed. | 20:14 |
| Ng | lifeless: I've not seen any more mails about dying quantum/etc bits - are they still throwing load at it? | 20:14 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: you were going to file bugs for the things we need to do to make it long lived. | 20:14 |
| Ng | (or am I just terrible at email ;) | 20:15 |
| lifeless | Ng: there are instances running, I too have not heard any more. | 20:15 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: indeed I was. action me? | 20:15 |
| lifeless | #action SpamapS to do what SpamapS does | 20:15 |
| lifeless | Any other POC rack business? | 20:15 |
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| lifeless | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 20:16 |
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| lifeless | pleia2: oh hai | 20:16 |
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| lifeless | ok, I'm going to time out that ping :) | 20:18 |
| lifeless | I haven't heard anything more from pleia2 - has anyone else? | 20:18 |
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| SpamapS | no | 20:18 |
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| SpamapS | guessing the US holiday interfered | 20:18 |
| lifeless | ah | 20:19 |
| lifeless | likely | 20:19 |
| lifeless | It's kind of related | 20:19 |
| lifeless | so I'll take a second to talk about devtest | 20:19 |
| lifeless | devtest now covers all the way up to heat spawning an overcloud | 20:19 |
| lifeless | of course, we don't have a scalable heat template for an overcloud | 20:19 |
| lifeless | so its a bit of a lie | 20:20 |
| SpamapS | hm | 20:20 |
| SpamapS | I have been distracted elsewhere, but the main reason we didn't use nova-compute-group.yaml was the hostname issue, right? | 20:20 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: as I recall we kindof do | 20:20 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: yes I think so | 20:20 |
| SpamapS | ok, that is solved | 20:20 |
| SpamapS | - is used instead of ., and i believe there is a random component now too | 20:20 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I may need a little hand holding today, if you can | 20:20 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: sure, I'll be out of pocket for 2 hours after the meeting but then should be around to help | 20:21 |
| pleia2 | lifeless: no updates from me, holiday plus other things (needed to refresh my dev environment to flush out some network gremlins) | 20:21 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: awesome | 20:21 |
| lifeless | pleia2: ack! | 20:21 |
| lifeless | toci is catching stuff too which is good | 20:22 |
| lifeless | ok | 20:22 |
| lifeless | #topic open discussion | 20:22 |
| pleia2 | toci is failing at the moment, probably needs some eyeballs on that | 20:22 |
| SpamapS | last I saw was some 404 on pypi | 20:22 |
| pleia2 | ah, good | 20:22 |
| pleia2 | (well, not good, but you know) | 20:22 |
| SpamapS | its the kind of not good we know how to handle I think | 20:23 |
| pleia2 | right | 20:23 |
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| lifeless | so | 20:24 |
| lifeless | I guess we need to figure out how to get toci reliable enough to make it a gate | 20:24 |
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| lifeless | that is separate out 'infra failed' vs 'actually broken by $other' | 20:25 |
| SpamapS | some of the issues are just general di-b issues | 20:25 |
| SpamapS | like how to get already checked out repos into it and how to use a static mirror for certain things | 20:25 |
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| lifeless | yup | 20:26 |
| lifeless | derekh has a stack of patches I'm going to review today | 20:26 |
| lifeless | which will give us the basis for git caching | 20:26 |
| SpamapS | is there any reason we manually have people run all the steps in devtest.md versus just "run toci" ? | 20:27 |
| lifeless | I think there are three concerns | 20:27 |
| lifeless | one is 'get developers to understand the process' | 20:27 |
| lifeless | there is 'automated in a specific context' | 20:27 |
| lifeless | and there is 'deploy somewhere' | 20:27 |
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| lifeless | toci is a version of 'automated in...' | 20:28 |
| lifeless | to me, devtest is the former; we should get considerably more automation in it, but not to the extent of reducing clarity. | 20:28 |
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| mordred | this has come up before | 20:29 |
| lifeless | and for deploy somewhere, that should be clearly broken up into what runs on the seed host, hardware enrollment etc. | 20:29 |
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| pleia2 | has toci been kept up to date with what is specifically in devtest.md? | 20:29 |
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| mordred | people want to start doing something with tripleo, but the steps in 19 seem to be a stumbling block | 20:29 |
| lifeless | pleia2: largely yes, and one potential benefit of saying 'its all toci' would be to remove conceptual duplication | 20:29 |
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| lifeless | mordred: the recent report of failure looks like something toci would totally fail on too | 20:30 |
| mordred | probably so | 20:30 |
| lifeless | my big concern about telling folk to run toci is that toci, like devstack, assumes it owns the local machine. | 20:30 |
| mordred | just being clear to what the desire is | 20:31 |
| lifeless | ack | 20:31 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: so for instance - the 'ssh in and copy this seed rc out' - thats something we should have a utility for IMO. | 20:31 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: -or- we should populate the rc file from outside, for boot-stack init (Which I do for undercloudrc now) | 20:32 |
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| SpamapS | yeah there are a few other steps that I don't think devs need help understanding | 20:32 |
| SpamapS | like all the git clones | 20:32 |
| lifeless | yup | 20:33 |
| lifeless | we should just have an mr // config-manager definition for that | 20:33 |
| SpamapS | alright so in general.. make steps simpler, but keep the progression obvious | 20:33 |
| lifeless | yes | 20:33 |
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| lifeless | IMO treat devtest as a manual for onboarding new tripleo devs. | 20:34 |
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| lifeless | needs to be robust and reliable; needs to be safe to run on a laptop's normal environment. | 20:34 |
| lifeless | needs to show -just enough- working folk get a handle on the overall process and where they can/should poke things. | 20:35 |
| mordred | what about new tripleo users who arent' necessarily devs | 20:35 |
| lifeless | mordred: they are deployers | 20:35 |
| mordred | they might be _potential_ devs or deployers | 20:35 |
| mordred | try-before-you-buy kindda thing | 20:35 |
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| mordred | or am I just too impatient | 20:36 |
| mordred | ? | 20:36 |
| lifeless | The archetype in my head of a deployer | 20:36 |
| lifeless | vs a dev | 20:36 |
| lifeless | a dev is someone tasked with making tripleo better, in terms of *first contact*. | 20:37 |
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| lifeless | a deployer can obviously segue into doing dev. | 20:37 |
| lifeless | a deployer usually wants to know enough about the plumbing to be confident driving it, but not to know all the gory details. | 20:37 |
| lifeless | so - in my head there are a small number commands you run to just deploy. | 20:38 |
| lifeless | you raise an interesting question of 'deploy to virt' | 20:38 |
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| lifeless | but frankly, we can't yet deploy a full overcloud from scratch without manual tweaking; let alone upgrade the software on it. | 20:39 |
| lifeless | I think we need to close the loop and get the whole thing intact-but-improvable before we polish the entry | 20:39 |
| lifeless | any deployer right now will be disappointed because not being able to upgrade is kindof a big deal | 20:39 |
| lifeless | [or they will be doing upgrades via a CM-that-does-packages, and thus the whole design makes a lot less sense for them] | 20:40 |
| lifeless | mordred: perhaps a better way to address this: | 20:40 |
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| lifeless | - we have enough people to either work on functionality, or polish. | 20:40 |
| lifeless | - which should we pick :) | 20:40 |
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| pleia2 | more polish makes testing easier and easier to get more folks involved | 20:42 |
| pleia2 | but I think it may be a harder sell | 20:42 |
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| lifeless | pleia2: I certainly agree; OTOH folk getting involved who don't know all the big picture structure can work on polish with good results | 20:42 |
| SpamapS | the bridge still has a hole in it | 20:43 |
| lifeless | pleia2: as a way to get involved : thats no reason to have it unpolished, but it mitigates the 'can't get involved' aspect. | 20:43 |
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| SpamapS | lets fill the hole, (updates) and then we can choose to improve the rest or add more. | 20:43 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: yah. so here is what I think we should drive at | 20:43 |
| lifeless | we should drive at end to end CI tests of deploy, and of upgrade-under-load. | 20:44 |
| lifeless | and we should be implementing and automating precisely whats needed to deliver that | 20:44 |
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| lifeless | there is a tonne more to do once thats done, but at that point we no longer need to say 'and there is science fiction in this presentation' | 20:45 |
| lifeless | so, mordred is distracted by a pep8 thing. | 20:47 |
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| mordred | sorry | 20:47 |
| lifeless | Any other business? | 20:47 |
| mordred | mission statement | 20:48 |
| lifeless | mordred: np; just don't think we have enough here to make a useful decision other than 'we have work to do and we want to automate all the things' | 20:48 |
| lifeless | mordred: thank you! I shall draft today | 20:48 |
| mordred | please do | 20:48 |
| lifeless | #action lifeless to draft missing statement. | 20:48 |
| mordred | tripleo needs to apply for program status in a mail to the dev list | 20:48 |
| mordred | and it needs to happen 4 days before a tc meeting | 20:48 |
| mordred | for it to be an eligible vote item | 20:48 |
| mordred | that needs to happen before the infra team is really going to be available in mindspace to help think about ci integration | 20:49 |
| lifeless | gotchya. | 20:49 |
| lifeless | Ok, anything else? | 20:49 |
| lifeless | Folk should put in paper submissions for HK. | 20:50 |
| lifeless | Any other other things? | 20:50 |
| SpamapS | be well, Robert Collins | 20:51 |
| lifeless | #endmeeting | 20:51 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 8 20:51:39 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-07-08-20.01.html | 20:51 |
| lifeless | on that note ;) | 20:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-07-08-20.01.txt | 20:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-07-08-20.01.log.html | 20:51 |
| pleia2 | thanks lifeless :) | 20:51 |
| lifeless | thanks everyone | 20:51 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha | 20:58 |
| markmcclain | hi | 20:58 |
| marun | hi | 20:58 |
| mestery | hi | 20:58 |
| armax | hello | 20:58 |
| amotoki | hi | 20:59 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 20:59 |
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| lifeless | hi | 20:59 |
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| lifeless | markmcclain: when during the meeting should I ask about stalled bugs ? | 20:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | lifeless: bugs | 21:00 |
| salv-orlando | lifeless: you can get in pvt with me - if I guess which bug are you talking about :) | 21:00 |
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| lifeless | markmcclain: thanks | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | lifeless: it should be on the agenda already | 21:00 |
| lifeless | oh, nuts, just finished the tripleo meeting haven't had time to dig up your agenda | 21:01 |
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| markmcclain | nati_ueno, amotoki: around? | 21:01 |
| lifeless | salv-orlando: bug 1184484 and bug 1189385 as you guessed | 21:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1184484 in tripleo "Quantum default settings will cause deadlocks due to overflow of sqlalchemy_pool" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184484 | 21:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1189385 in tripleo "quantum-server hung up it's listening port" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189385 | 21:01 |
| amotoki | markmcclain: here | 21:01 |
| salv-orlando | ok, let's talk about them in the bugs section | 21:01 |
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| markmcclain | amotoki: sorry missed your hi | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 8 21:02:16 2013 UTC. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:02 |
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| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
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| markmcclain | I think we mostly survived the rename in one piece. Thanks to the infra team transitioning the repositories and CI infrastructure on Saturday. | 21:03 |
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| garyk | hi | 21:03 |
| gongysh | hi | 21:03 |
| nati_ueno | hi! | 21:03 |
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| nati_ueno | markmcclain: sorry late | 21:04 |
| enikanorov | hi | 21:04 |
| emagana | hello all | 21:04 |
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| markmcclain | If you haven't already make sure to update your git configs to point at the new repo locations | 21:04 |
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| arosen1 | hi | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/havana-2 | 21:05 |
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| markmcclain | H2 is right around the corner. All blueprints for H2 need to be proposed by Thursday, so that we we have time to review them before the branch is cut. | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | We've only merged 25% of the targeted blueprints, so I expect the next week to busy | 21:07 |
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| markmcclain | If you have code out for review, you will need to rebase it to pick up the name changes otherwise it will fail on merging | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | #topic renaming | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | We removed most references to quantum with the code itself over the weekend. | 21:08 |
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| emagana | markmcclain: terrific job!!! | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | The code passes unit tests, but we are unable to validate the vendor plugins. I've reached out to the plugin contacts to ask they test their plugins and report back. | 21:09 |
| Swami | hi all | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | emagana: thanks | 21:10 |
| emagana | I want to ask if someone is experiencing this devstack problem after renaming: https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1199126 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1199126 in devstack "starting neutron agent fails" [Undecided,New] | 21:10 |
| HenryG | I ran a quick check on the Cisco plugin on devstack and didn't notice any problems. | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | HenryG: good to know | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | emagana: looks like a devstack bug | 21:12 |
| gongysh | when we publish a new neutron client | 21:12 |
| gongysh | ? | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: the NeutronClient (2.2.4) that was published last week was equivalent to quantumclient 2.2.3 | 21:12 |
| gongysh | ok | 21:13 |
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| markmcclain | I'd like to get the rest of the integrated projects switched | 21:13 |
| emagana | script is not able to find this function: neutron_plugin_configure_plugin_agent | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | and then we can push 2.2.5 with newer features | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | Any questions about renaming? | 21:14 |
| gongysh | when we update doc? | 21:14 |
| gongysh | hope they were done too. | 21:15 |
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| markmcclain | gongysh: emagana started a bit of that last week | 21:15 |
| emagana | gongysh: I am working on them! | 21:15 |
| gongysh | ok | 21:15 |
| nati_ueno | submitter should do (1) Rebase the patch to the neutron (2) replace s/Quantum/Neutron/ s/quantum/neutron/ in the newer added part ? | 21:15 |
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| nati_ueno | emagana: oh the rumor get truth :) | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | nati_ueno: that's one part of it. In general look for conflict and solve them just like with any other patch | 21:16 |
| emagana | nati_ueno: ;-) | 21:16 |
| nati_ueno | salv-orlando: I got it. IMO, we should have wiki for this instructions | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: text substitution works for most cases, but there a few plugins were quantum_* is actually exchanged with the backend | 21:16 |
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| mestery | nati_ueno: It's really quite easy, any errors will be caught in flake8 or UT. | 21:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: thanks for fixing in the plugins as well | 21:17 |
| nati_ueno | mestery: I see! good point! | 21:17 |
| salv-orlando | yep, the only issues I had so far are with imports. But it's easy to pick out which ones you added/changed/removed with git diff | 21:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | make sure you use "git mv" when you rename files/directories | 21:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | else it will show up as new files in existing patches | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: most of that should have been taken care of by the big rename this weekend | 21:18 |
| nati_ueno | ok I would like to write wiki page for this. Or Should I add this information for existing page? | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: you can add instructions on the existing | 21:18 |
| mestery | I vote for adding to the existing page. | 21:18 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: I got it | 21:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: i was referring to patches in review which introduce new files | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | right.. I've found that rebasing generally does the right thing | 21:19 |
| amotoki | SumitNaiksatam: reagrding patches, rebase will address renaming issues. | 21:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | at least, it did not happen in my case | 21:20 |
| amotoki | when you add new files, "git mv" will help you. | 21:20 |
| mestery | SumitNaiksatam: I had to manually use "git mv" to move files in one of my patchsets which was new in my patchset. | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | Last thing on renaming.. if you find a bug make sure to file it in launchpad so that we can track them and prioritize them | 21:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki, mestery: yeah, you need to do a "git mv" for new files (i noticed lots of new files in patches that were in review, probably not doing a git mv) | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | #topic bugs | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | We've this bug still to close: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1184484 | 21:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1184484 in tripleo "Quantum default settings will cause deadlocks due to overflow of sqlalchemy_pool" [Critical,Triaged] | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | lifeless: is the bug you wanted to discuss? | 21:22 |
| garyk | markmcclain - does the oslo db merge take care of that? | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | I am working on it. Expecting to have a fix or an headache tomorrow | 21:22 |
| nati_ueno | updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/neutron-renaming#How_to_rename_existing_patches | 21:22 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: it is one of two. | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: thanks for looking into it | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | lifeless: what is the other one? | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | garyk: I am trying with the new modelbase | 21:23 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: bug 1189385 | 21:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1189385 in tripleo "quantum-server hung up it's listening port" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189385 | 21:23 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: we've supplied all the info asked for | 21:23 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: (AFAICT) | 21:23 |
| garyk | salv-orlando ok thanks | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | hopefully that will be solution otherwise, we might have a bad problem with sqlalchemy leaking sessions | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | for bug 1189385, all that I can see is that is seems unrelated to but 1184484 | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | lifeless: thanks for adding the tracebacks… I'll dig into 1189385 | 21:24 |
| garyk | markmcclain we also should discuss the sporadic failures of tempest | 21:24 |
| garyk | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1186161 | 21:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1186161 in nova "Tempest tests sometimes get: [Fail] Couldn't ping server" [Undecided,New] | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | garyk: yes can do that here | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | this check fails in the gate randomly | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | and running the gate again it is likely to pass | 21:25 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: thank you! | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | garyk: I know you were looking into 1186161 have found anything of interest? | 21:25 |
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| garyk | markmcclain - i ahve yet been able to reproduce this when i run tempest | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:27 |
| garyk | markmcclain - i will continue to look into it | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | thanks | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | Any other high priority bugs to discuss? | 21:28 |
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| garyk | markmcclain - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1192287 | 21:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1192287 in nova "Creating server did not fail when exceeded Quantum quota limit" [Undecided,New] | 21:28 |
| garyk | i think that this is more nova related than quantum. the quotas check is done on the compute node instead of at the api level | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | right | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | arosen1: we're you working on this too? | 21:29 |
| garyk | markmcclain, arosen1: i can look into this if you guys want | 21:30 |
| armax | I think this is similar bug 1172808 | 21:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1172808 in nova "Nova fails on Quantum port quota too late" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172808 | 21:30 |
| arosen1 | yea ^ | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | I think this goes back to the 'fail fast' discussions we had early in the release cycle | 21:30 |
| arosen1 | we need to move the port creation to nova-api to fix that. | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | year that thing | 21:30 |
| garyk | any objections if i take it? | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | arosen1 has a blueprint for it; but community had mixed feelings about it. | 21:31 |
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| arosen1 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-api-quantum-create-port | 21:31 |
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| markmcclain | cool.. we probably link the bugs and blueprint to prevent more duplicate entires | 21:33 |
| arosen1 | garyk: it's a big change. I was planing on bitting this off next but if you want it, it's all yours :) | 21:33 |
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| garyk | arosen1: i'll take a look at the bp and let you know | 21:33 |
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| arosen1 | garyk: k | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | Ok let's run through the sub teams real quick | 21:34 |
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| markmcclain | #topic API | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | hi | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: look like we're in good shape for H2 | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | very quickly: we are risking to miss the H-2 deadline for service type refactoring | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | because of new concerns around design | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | enikanorov is going to push this to the mailing list soon. | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | please note that we already have patches dependent on it | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | and that with 'service types' providers or whatever we want to call them there's a very thin line between a productive discussion and speculation | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | so let's get that to what matters for our goals, and ensure its merged by H-2 deadline! | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | that's all | 21:36 |
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| nati_ueno | enikanorov said he will support full db based implementation in hanava, so I'm going to +2 for the patch after checking it again | 21:37 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. looks like we have enough cores on it | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | Anything else besides this blocker? | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | nati_ueno I am not sure about you mean with 'full db based', but I think we need to give room to next topic | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | nope, that is all | 21:38 |
| nati_ueno | so salv-orlando and akihiro looks already +1 or +2 for that patch, I'm expecting that patch will land soon | 21:38 |
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| markmcclain | #topic VPN | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: hi | 21:38 |
| nati_ueno | Regarding to service type discussion, we decided to remove vpn_type | 21:38 |
| nati_ueno | We will add support for service type framework in H3 | 21:39 |
| enikanorov | ok | 21:39 |
| nati_ueno | One news is how to test page have horizon ui instruction also | 21:39 |
| nati_ueno | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Quantum/VPNaaS/HowToInstall | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | great.. minus pep8 errors.. like folks should review VPN | 21:40 |
| nati_ueno | Yes since h2 end is close, | 21:40 |
| nati_ueno | so it is great if we could have cores on REST API and Driver patch | 21:40 |
| nati_ueno | I'm reviewing REST API so one additional for REST API and 2 core for driver patch | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | I'll be one of the cores on this | 21:41 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: Thanks! | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: if you cannot take both patches, I can do the api one | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: cool.. I'll let you have one and I'll review the driver | 21:42 |
| nati_ueno | salv-orlando: Thanks! | 21:42 |
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| nati_ueno | I need one more for drivers | 21:42 |
| amotoki | i will look the driver one. | 21:42 |
| nati_ueno | amotoki: Thanks! | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | amotoki: thanks | 21:42 |
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| markmcclain | Anything else on VPN? | 21:43 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: salv-orlando: amotoki: OK We are renaming code. After we check it working with new name, we will ping you guys | 21:43 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: That's all from us | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | k | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: sounds good | 21:43 |
| nati_ueno | Thank you for your help | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | #topic firewalling | 21:43 |
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| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: hi | 21:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:44 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | API, Agent and Driver patches have been rebased with the name change. CLI patch still needs to be rebased. | 21:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | API and Driver patches are out of WIP. Unit tests are in the works on the agent patch, hence it's still WIP. | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | thanks for getting them rebased so quickly | 21:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan, who is the author of the driver patch, is traveling to India today, so expect some delays on review responses at his end. | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I need to add the db migration script to the API patch. | 21:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK do you have anything more to add on the agent work? | 21:45 |
| SridarK | Nothing more - will get UT done by Wed | 21:45 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | in general, there have been cores on the API patch (thanks Salvatore, amotoki, arisen, others) | 21:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we need more on the driver and agent patch (when its ready) | 21:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | arisen -> arosen | 21:46 |
| nati_ueno | I'll review them :) | 21:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks nati_ueno !! :-) | 21:46 |
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| markmcclain | great | 21:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats our update | 21:46 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: Thank you for your sharing test instruction. It is great to if we could have wiki page for that | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | thanks for updating | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | #topic ml2 | 21:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: its on the wiki page | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | mestery: hi | 21:47 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: Ah sorry. Thanks | 21:47 |
| mestery | markmcclain: hi | 21:47 |
| mestery | ML2 changes are progressing nicely, though it's unclear if we'll get much more merged before H2 ends. | 21:47 |
| mestery | I think the GRE and VXLAN type drivers have a good chance if we can get some core reviewers. | 21:47 |
| mestery | And the MechanismDriver change as well. | 21:47 |
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| markmcclain | I took a look at the mech driver this afternoon | 21:48 |
| mestery | Also, I'm hoping to get gongysh to review this one again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33107/ (I added a link to a design document there). | 21:48 |
| gongysh | sorry for the delay to look at it. | 21:48 |
| gongysh | I will do it today | 21:48 |
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| mestery | Other than that, we have a sub-team meeting Wednesday to discuss in detail ML2. | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: will you be able to look an unlblock? | 21:48 |
| mestery | gongysh: Thanks! I plan to work on that tomorrow. | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: thanks | 21:48 |
| mestery | That's it for ML2. | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | so this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-portbinding | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | will miss H2? | 21:49 |
| mestery | I think so, I haven't seen any review for it yet. | 21:49 |
| mestery | rkukura was going to try to get a review out early this week though. | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I'll hold it in for now | 21:49 |
| mestery | Thanks! | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | mestery: thanks for updating | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | #topic lbaas | 21:50 |
| enikanorov | hi | 21:50 |
| enikanorov | the agent scheduling patch isstill waiting for cores | 21:50 |
| enikanorov | nothing has changed from past week except now the patch depends on another one | 21:51 |
| enikanorov | which divides agent scheduling to dhcp & l3 | 21:51 |
| enikanorov | (and lbaas, in lbaas-related patch) | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: can you take a look at this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35266/ | 21:51 |
| enikanorov | so those two reviews require core's attention | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | I'll review it also | 21:52 |
| gongysh | sure | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno, gongysh: thanks | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov: anything else? | 21:52 |
| enikanorov | that's all from lbaas for h2 | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov: thanks for updating | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | #topic nova | 21:53 |
| garyk | we have spoken about bugs above | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | garyk: I think we covered most of the pressing items earlier | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | we had same thought :) | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | #topic stable | 21:53 |
| garyk | markmcclain agreed. there is one issue though that it would be nice if quantum guys could look at (1 sec) | 21:53 |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34968/ | 21:53 |
| gongysh | nova side | 21:53 |
| garyk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33054/ | 21:54 |
| garyk | gongysh - i think that this was reverte in nova as they felt it was the cause f the tempest problems | 21:54 |
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| gongysh | no, not this one. | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | monkeypatching eventlet causes some problems deep down with httplib2 | 21:55 |
| gongysh | it is the one with shared quantum client. | 21:55 |
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| garyk | ok | 21:55 |
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| markmcclain | I'll look at the token issue because we've similar stuff internally | 21:56 |
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| markmcclain | #topic stable | 21:56 |
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| garyk | no updates here | 21:56 |
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| markmcclain | Now that we've renamed the code the backports are going to get much harder | 21:57 |
| garyk | a few people have been dong backports (sorry i do not recall the names - but thanks!) | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | we're also farther into the dev cycle, so might need to raise the bar for what we allow as a backport | 21:57 |
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| garyk | hopefully neutron will have fewer problems than quantum | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | :) | 21:58 |
| mestery | garyk: Heh :) | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | #topic Horizon | 21:58 |
| amotoki | hi | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | amotoki: anything to share? | 21:58 |
| amotoki | markmcclain: is renaming patch from you ready for reivew? | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | yes | 21:59 |
| amotoki | thank. will check it. | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | great! | 21:59 |
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| amotoki | for H2, security group support is the only one related to neutron. | 21:59 |
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| markmcclain | cool.. so most of the services will land in H3? | 22:00 |
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| amotoki | i think so. | 22:00 |
| amotoki | vpnass has a good progress. | 22:00 |
| amotoki | i have no concerns for fwaas too. | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | good to hear | 22:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | KC is working on the CLI, but should be on FWaaS shortly | 22:01 |
| amotoki | SumitNaiksatam: good to hear | 22:01 |
| amotoki | all from me. | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | Any questions on Horizon<>Neutron integration? | 22:02 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 22:02 |
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| gongysh | I will begin the old work on multihost feature this week. | 22:02 |
| garyk | i am going to crash. good night. have a good one | 22:03 |
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| markmcclain | garyk: night | 22:03 |
| amotoki | garyk: night! | 22:03 |
| nati_ueno | garyk: night! | 22:03 |
| gongysh | since the host-id is in. | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: this will be h3? | 22:03 |
| gongysh | garky: dream. | 22:03 |
| gongysh | yes | 22:03 |
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| markmcclain | Anything other items to cover? | 22:04 |
| gongysh | and about concurrent lock | 22:04 |
| gongysh | this is a big problem | 22:04 |
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| gongysh | overlapping cidr is just a case of them. | 22:05 |
| marun | gongysh: that's a db issue | 22:05 |
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| marun | gongysh: a concurrent lock is not required | 22:06 |
| gongysh | no, that is a business logic problem. | 22:06 |
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| marun | gongysh: yes, one that needs to be enforced at the db level | 22:06 |
| gongysh | not all problem can be fixed by a constraint. | 22:06 |
| marun | gongysh: not in code | 22:06 |
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| marun | gongysh: this isn't a hard problem. it's been done by db's since the 1970s | 22:07 |
| gongysh | haha, | 22:07 |
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| marun | gongysh: if you are not aware of this, I respectfully suggest that you are not the best person to address the problem. There is a reason I assigned the bugs to markmcclain. | 22:08 |
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| gongysh | ok, what is your opinion of the overlapping cidr checking. | 22:08 |
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| nati_ueno | Which bug are you discussing? | 22:09 |
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| markmcclain | We're out of time.. if gongysh, marun want to hop into #openstack-neutron we can talk about this more | 22:09 |
| gongysh | ok | 22:10 |
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| markmcclain | and those that are interested can join us there too | 22:10 |
| gongysh | nati_ueno: Bug #1194206 | 22:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1194206 in neutron "allow_overlapping_ips=False fails for Concurrent requests" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1194206 | 22:11 |
| nati_ueno | gongysh: thanks | 22:11 |
| markmcclain | Thanks for everyone who stepped up to review important patches for H2 | 22:11 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:11 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 8 22:11:09 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-07-08-21.02.html | 22:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-07-08-21.02.txt | 22:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-07-08-21.02.log.html | 22:11 |
| salv-orlando | adieu | 22:11 |
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| markmcclain | bye.. moving to -neutron for those that want to keep discussing | 22:12 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 22:12 |
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| nati_ueno | salv-orlando: enikanorov: Hi do you have time to discuss about service type? | 22:12 |
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| nati_ueno | bye! | 22:12 |
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| amotoki | bye | 22:13 |
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