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fungiokay, it's back now. sorry for the inconvenience15:21
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primeministerpfungi: thanks for the help15:41
fungiprimeministerp: sure thing. we're still struggling a bit with a real fix for that problem. seems to be the fix is probably to rewrite meetbot using something other than sypybot since it's based on twisted-python which has... poor... support for ipv6+ssl as a socket combination15:42
fungier, other than supybot15:42
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ayoungKEYSTONE!17:02
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dwaitehmm, not as riveting as I remember17:08
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ayoungdwaite, Keystone meeting is at 1400 Eastern now, not 1300, as we had the time change17:09
ayoungand the meetings stay at UTC17:09
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dwaiteoh!17:11
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dwaitethis just goes to show I'm not on the right mailing lists yet. is it a perm. change?17:21
dwaitealso, signed up for/booked travel for summit next month. maybe I'll take the time to submit a session proposal on SAML, OAuth2 and SCIM17:22
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henrynashhi18:00
bknudsonhi18:00
spzalaHi18:00
ayoungKEYSTONE!18:00
jkylehi18:00
gyee\o18:00
ayoungno heckj and no dolphm?18:00
ayoung#startmeeting  keystone18:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 12 18:01:22 2013 UTC.  The chair is ayoung. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:01
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ayoung#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting18:01
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ayoung#topic High priority bugs or immediate issues?18:02
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ayoung3 bugs marked critical18:02
ayounghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/115280118:03
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1152801 in keystone "V3 tokens do not show up in list_tokens_for_trust" [Critical,In progress]18:03
ayounghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/113108718:03
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1131087 in keystone "Roles lost in Folsom to Grizzly upgrade" [Critical,In progress]18:03
ayoungAs well as one with fix committed18:03
ayoungOf course, both fixes step on each other for the 020 sql upgrade script18:04
henrynashayoung: anything we can do to help get these done?18:04
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ayoungI'm willing to rebase the Roles one if people are willing to ACK the trust one18:04
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/24010/18:04
ayounghenrynash, ^^ is the fix for the trusts one18:05
ayoungso, reviews needed there18:05
henrynashayoung: I'll give it a quick once over, but I was pretty fine on it last time round...18:05
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/23979/  needs unit tests18:06
ayounganyone have anything else that needs review now?18:07
ayoungWe have a few out for Folsom stable that are important to us for an internal deadline, which I would like people to look at as well.18:07
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/24079/18:08
henrynashayoung: I am writing tests for : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24078/18:08
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/23996/18:08
ayoungand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23842/18:08
ayoungbut those will require outside intervention as well18:08
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ayounghenrynash, please make sure that all those calls are using the delete token function from https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/115280118:09
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1152801 in keystone "V3 tokens do not show up in list_tokens_for_trust" [Critical,In progress]18:09
henrynashayoung: they are…..I saw your in-flight change18:09
ayoungIf needs be, we can move that up to the V3 Controller.18:09
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henrynashayoung: do you have tests written that check if tokens are deleted?18:10
ayounghenrynash, usually we just check that a token that authenticated in the past doesn't authenticate afterwards, but you can always do a list_tokens call for the user to ensure that it is not there18:11
henrynashayoung: ok, right, got it18:11
ayoungOr, probably better, get_token18:12
ayoungdepends on if you are doing WEB API or core.py calls.18:12
ayoungI tend to favor core, dolph goes more toward the API level.18:12
ayoungboth are good, but core calls are easier to debug and are more unit tests.18:12
ayoungthe other I see almost as integration/functional tests...but the slope is slippery18:13
henrynashayoung: ok, got it18:13
ayoung#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone,n,z18:13
ayounghere are the open reviews.  and for client18:13
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-keystoneclient,n,z18:14
ayoungIs anything burning on either of those two lists?18:14
ayounggyee?18:14
gyeeayoung, I am reviewing them :)18:15
ayoungGlad to hear it.  I'll be hitting a few shortly as well.18:15
ayoungand bknudson is always glad to tear a patch apart.  Good work there, btw18:15
bknudsonayoung: that's what I do.18:16
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ayoungBTW,  gyee made a point of kicking back one of my patches due to it not having a unit tests, and I was all grumpy like...it turned out he was 100% correct, as the code I submitted, even though it was just replaceing what had been removed, was b0rjk3d.18:17
ayoungSo, no new code without unit tests.18:17
henrynashayoung: absolutely18:17
gyee+118:17
bknudsonshould document the requirement so can point to it.18:18
ayoungBTW,  I will try to update the code coverage stats and post later this week.  I bet we find that we've all missed covereage in recent patches.  Especailly me with trusts.18:18
gyeeayoung, https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1153808 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/115345518:18
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1153808 in keystone "identiy-doc response format not conistent in token response and  other responses" [Undecided,New]18:18
ayoung#action ayoung to update code coverage and post18:18
gyeecan we confirm these two18:18
ayounggyee, will look after this18:18
ayounghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1153455 does not look right18:19
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1153455 in keystone "value of the field "links" in response is not correct. ( identiy-api-doc)" [Undecided,New]18:19
ayoung"href": "http://identity.api.openstack.org/v2.0"  looks wrong on a couple levels18:19
ayoungwhich leads to....18:19
gyeeayoung, exactly, we need to correct the doc18:20
ayoung#topic18:20
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ayoung#topic v2 vs v3 api versions18:20
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gyeethere's also a bigger issue on how we provide these links18:20
henrynashayoung: I added this, so we could discuss the issues dan was reporting18:20
ayounghenrynash, so first and foremost I want to update the bug report18:21
ayoungIf I didn;'t know dan and how right he tends to be about things I would mark a report written like that as invalid18:21
ayoungSo what was the actual problem he saw?18:21
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henrynashayoung: I don;t know much more than you….other that using unversioned urls meant his stuff was failing18:22
ayoungyeah...I don't know how there can be such a thing as "unversioned urls"18:22
ayoungthat is my first problem with the report18:22
henrynashayoung: to be honest, other than "Get versions", I didn't know we supported unversioned urls18:22
ayoungsecond is how it jumps right to a solution without providing a problem other than "something is broken"18:23
henrynashi.e. ' Get /'18:23
ayoungright18:23
ayounghenrynash, it sounds to me like the fetch of the token validation files is broken:  either the certs or the revocation list18:23
ayoungwhich is just a plain bug.18:24
ayounghenrynash, I will open a new bug which says we should default to V3, and when you get more information on https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1154144  please get it updated to be accurate?  I'll try to do so as well.  We shouldn;'t accept a fix to Keystone without being told what is broken.18:25
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1154144 in python-keystoneclient "auth_token middleware should default to v2.0 if version is not specified" [Critical,In progress]18:25
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henrynashayoung: so plan is: a) patch it for now to default to v2.0, while we work out what the real fix is….then decide what we want for the grizzly release, in terms of default18:25
henrynashayoung: agreed18:26
ayounghenrynash, with step 0 being a decent bug report, yes18:26
gyeehenrynash, what "real" fix you have in mind?18:26
zykes-is v3 borked or ?18:26
ayounggyee, we'll know when we know what is broken18:27
henrynashgyee: well, that somewhat depends if we are meant to support unversioned urls in general18:27
ayoungbut defaulting to V3 should be seamless18:27
henrynashayoung: agreed18:27
gyeenice :)18:27
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spzalahenrynash: ayoung: I wanted to verify with DolphM today that if #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/ can get into grizzly...it's out for review. In the last meeting, DolphM mentioned that he will be checking with ttx.18:32
topolayoung, I am starting to run _ldap_livetest.py   It blows chunks in setup.  I may just be missing stuff in my LDAP config mappings but not sure. I will start investigatting.  Previously, has this test been run very often???18:33
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henrynashspzala: hold fire on that, we'll get to it in other business (young is just chatting with dprince on the v2/v3 thing_18:33
spzalahenrynash: :) OK, sounds good.18:34
topolhenrynash, OK18:34
ayoungtopol, it has bit rotted.  I used it heavily back when I was doing my work, but it has been run infrequently since then.  It is, however, imporantant that it run correctrly, as it exercises the main LDAP code.  Setup problems are not a surprise, though.18:34
topolayoung, I will start digging18:34
crazedtopol: i'm actually working on that18:35
crazedwe should collaborate18:35
topolcrazed, sure. great minds think alike18:35
ayoungping me if you guys get stuck18:35
henrynashayoung: next topic?18:36
ayoung#topic admin global role still exists in v3?18:37
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henrynashayoung: so I put this on....18:37
henrynashayoung: is there meant to be the 'special" admin role in v3?18:37
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ayounghenrynash, I would love to fix that now18:38
bknudsonI opened a bug that might be related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/115308018:38
ayoungadmin should not be based on a role in a tenant er project18:38
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1153080 in keystone "GET v2.0/tenants authority vs GET v3/projects" [Undecided,New]18:38
henrynashayoung: well the implementation as it stands does NOT have the same global admin role as we had in v218:39
henrynashayoung: ask I think that is correct.18:39
ayounghenrynash, excpet that...Keystone treats it like it does18:39
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ayoungif you have admin on a project, is_admin passes18:39
ayoungI want to get rid of that, but we need to replace it with something better18:39
henrynashayoung: are you sure about that?18:39
ayoungthe somethuing better is, I think, policy and RBAC18:40
ayounghenrynash, I'll paste a link18:40
gyeeayoung, is_admin is only set if the ADMIN token is used18:40
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bknudsonpolicy.json has mostly role:admin...18:40
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ayoung#link https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/wsgi.py#L27418:41
ayoung#link https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/wsgi.py#L29118:41
bknudson"admin_required": [["role:admin"], ["is_admin:1"]],18:41
henrynashgyee: right….and the plain admin role will ONLY apply to those projects/domains for which the role has been pplied18:41
henrynashayee: in v218:41
ayoungLine 291 we look to see if a user has admin role in a tenant18:41
henrynashgyee: sorry, in v3, Imeant18:41
bknudsonassert_admin got called a lot in v2, but v3 doesn't call it.18:42
henrynashayoung: so this is only called in v2 I think18:42
ayoungwe need to remove it everywhere, I think, and wrap those calls with policy18:42
henrynashayoung: for v3 we do18:42
ayoungGood point...yeah, I think that is V2 only, but it needs to change or it will be a problem moving forward.18:43
henrynashayoung: and that means we insist you have admin on the specific target you are operating on18:43
bknudsonhenrynash: what's a target?18:43
bknudsonhenrynash: a project, or user, or group?18:43
ayoungdomain?18:44
ayoungserver?18:44
henrynashayoung: so my only point is….we HAVE changed this for v3, are we OK with this….and if so, we should probably document it somewhere as people might not understand why their policy file no longer works the way it used to18:44
ayoungAdding a domain means you need admin on the server18:44
ayoungadding a user means you have admin on domain18:44
henrynashbknudson: either project or domain18:44
ayoungkeystone should probably not care much about project admins...maybe in order to add/remove a role for a user in that project, but that is about it18:45
ayounghenrynash, want to take that as an action item?18:45
topolayoung, what does need admin on the server mean?18:45
henrynashayoung: sure18:45
ayoungtopol, I am glad you asked18:45
ayoungbecause we don;t have that abstraction yet18:46
topol:-)18:46
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topolayoung, when do we start updating the docs with all this? All really good nuggets to communicate18:47
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ayoungtopol, lets start by annotatuing it on that bug report.18:49
gyeeayoung, what do we say about v3-v2 backward compatibility in generate in terms of perms?18:50
gyeethat statement will give us a base on what to do with the global admin18:50
ayounggyee, good question.18:50
ayounggyee, I think this is a place where, if we don't make a deliberate break, we are going to be haunted by it, but18:51
ayoungif we do, we are going to break things for a lot of people18:51
topolayoung, any chance you could remove the red x from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24023 we created a new bug with a more appopriate title.  And I feel your red x will be a blemish on my permanent record :-)18:51
gyeeif we don't intend to be backward compat then we have a lot more flexibility18:51
ayoungRight now, the only Keystone admin we have is tenant level.  How do we remove that and still have people's scripts work?18:52
henrynashayoung: what do you mean by tenant level?18:53
ayounghenrynash, user is assigned the role admin in a project18:54
ayoungany project18:54
ayoungand they have admin rights in v2.0 APIs18:54
ayoungsee the links above18:54
henrynashayoung: right, sorry, when you said "Right Now" I didn't realise you meant v218:54
ayounghenrynash, I mean before Grizzly goes GA.18:55
ayounger..I mean I want to fix it in V2 before Grizzly goes GA18:55
henrynashayoung: agreed18:55
ayounghenrynash, so part of fixing that is providing an alternative18:55
ayounghow about, as a stop gap, admin on the default domain?18:55
henrynashayoung: well for one thing we can't support this in v3 even if we wanted to (since how would we know which users was "admin")18:57
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henrynashayoung: which role, sorry18:57
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ayounghenrynash, I think we make a migration which takes any user with a role of admin on any project, removes that assignment, and provides them with admin on the default domain instead.  THen, amdins for the default domain can perform the actions in the V2.0 api that are is_admin now.18:58
ayoungdolphm, ^^ does that make sense?18:58
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ayoungcan I put that proposal to a vote?18:59
ayoungTell you what, I'll blueprint it and send it out.19:00
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henrynashayoung; +119:00
gyee+119:00
gyeeneed some time to think it over :)19:00
glau_aguiarayoung: in this proposal, which role can create domains?19:01
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ayoung#action all review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/remove-tenant-admin19:02
ayoungglau_aguiar, I guess it would mean that an admin on the default domain could create a new domain, as there is no other role that can do that now.19:03
bknudsoncould use admin token?19:03
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ayoungbknudson, correct19:04
ayoungOK, we are over time.  Continue any discussions in #openstack-dev19:04
ayoung#endmeeting19:04
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dwaiteawww19:05
openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar 12 19:04:58 2013 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:05
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jeblairci/infra people?19:05
pleia2o/19:05
olapho/19:05
zarohere19:05
anteayao/19:05
glau_aguiarayoung, thanks19:05
mordredop/19:05
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fungiyo!19:06
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jeblair#startmeeting infra19:06
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:06
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jeblair#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-05-19.02.html19:06
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jeblair#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting19:06
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jeblairmordred: i think the decision about hpcs az3 was to make a new account, yeah?19:07
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mordredjeblair: yes19:07
jeblair#action clarkb set up new hpcs account with az1-3 access19:07
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jeblairfungi: you did #2 and #3, yeah?  wanna talk about those?19:08
fungisure19:08
jeblairdtroyer: ping19:08
dtroyerjeblair yo19:08
jeblairdtroyer: awesome, can you hang for a sec, i have a question for you when fungi's done19:09
fungiokay, so #2 was really just follow up to the cla maintenance19:09
dtroyernp19:09
fungidredging up ml archive link now19:09
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fungibasically started with19:10
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fungi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-March/006344.html19:10
fungievolved later into19:10
fungi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CLA-FAQ19:10
fungipretty cut and dried. as far as improvements to the foundation's e-mail matching, i haven't heard back from todd19:11
fungii'll check in with him today19:11
fungiquantal slaves is the other thing there...19:11
fungiwe're running all our infra jobs which used to run on precise slaves there now19:11
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fungionly issue encountered so far (to my knowledge) was a race condition in zuul's tests which we exposed in this change, and which jeblair patched19:12
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fungido we have a feel for when we should move forward proposing patches to other projects?19:12
jeblairsince we're so late in the cycle, we should do it very cautiously.19:13
fungii have the job candidates in a list here...19:13
fungi#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/quantal-job-candidates19:13
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fungiwell, technically jobs, templates and projects19:14
fungiwe're already in phase 1. phase 2 there could certainly be split out into phases 2-10 or whatever19:15
jeblairyeah, i'd try to batch those a bit19:15
jeblairmaybe do all the non-openstack projects19:15
fungisure, i'll make stackforge et al phase 219:15
jeblairthen maybe the openstack projects.19:15
jeblairyou tested nova, right?19:15
fungirepeatedly, yes19:16
fungiand spot tested a lot of the other server and client projects too19:16
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jeblairok, so it's probably okay to batch the openstack ones together too19:16
jeblairjust be ready to quickly revert.19:16
jeblairwhen is rc1?19:16
fungiyeah i ran all of the main openstack components' py27 jobs on their master branches to test19:17
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jeblairthe first rc is thursday19:17
jeblairi'm starting to think we should postpone until the summit19:18
jeblairor after the release19:18
fungiso 48 hours... yeah, i agree for the official openstack bits19:18
fungii'll press forward with the rest though for now19:18
jeblairsounds good19:18
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fungiwe also have rhel6 nearing a similar state which can occupy my time19:18
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fungipresumably follow the same patter there for oneiric-rhel619:19
fungier, pattern19:19
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jeblairyeah, i also think that needs to wait until after the release for the official projects19:19
fungicompletely agree19:19
fungishould be dtroyer's turn now, unless there are other related questions19:20
jeblair#action fungi migrate stackforge projects to quantal, possibly rhel619:20
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jeblairdtroyer: so i just noticed you +1'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23209/19:20
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jeblairwhich is what i was going to ask about, so cool.19:20
jeblairdtroyer: is there any time in particular you would like me to merge that?19:20
jeblairdtroyer: (so you can know when to update git remotes, etc)19:20
dtroyeranytime is good…Grenade is running through right now but all of the tests still aren't passing so there is presumably some upgrade work missing.19:21
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jeblairdtroyer: okay, i'll merge it this afternoon and let you know.19:22
dtroyergreat, thanks19:22
jeblairthank you!19:22
jeblair#topic oslo-config rename19:22
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jeblairi'm going to test renaming a project with a hyphen to a dot on review-dev, just to make sure there's no gotchas there19:23
jeblairassuming that works, when should we schedule the gerrit downtime for the rename?19:23
jeblairfriday night?19:23
fungii'm cool with helping on friday night19:24
fungiis the day after rc1 release likely to be a bad time? or a good time?19:24
jeblairwe could do wed night, which is the night before rc119:24
fungii guess the gerrit outage is brief either way19:24
jeblairor even tonight.19:25
mordredjeblair: tonight we're busy19:25
jeblairi think after would be better19:25
jeblairmordred: well, after that.  :)19:25
mordredheh19:25
jeblairbut anyway, maybe friday night...19:26
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jeblairmordred and i are at pycon this weekend, so sat/sun mornings are probably bad19:26
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fungii'm good with whenever's convenient for you and doesn't get in ttx's way for rc1 stuff19:27
jeblairlet's do 9pdt friday unless ttx objects19:27
fungiwfm19:28
jeblair#action jeblair send gerrit outage announce for 9pdt friday for oslo-config rename19:28
jeblairany other renames we need to do?19:28
funginone which have come to my attention, other than your test19:28
jeblair#topic gerrit/lp groups19:28
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jeblairmordred, fungi: thoughts on whether we should sync core/drivers -> lp, or rename the groups?19:29
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fungirenaming is where i'm leaning. they seem like distinct responsibilities which may or may not share the same individuals19:29
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fungiand they also vary in use between server/client/infra/stackforge/et cetera19:30
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jeblairthat's my preference because there's less to break.  if the core group in lp is important, then that makes doing a sync script pretty compelling...19:30
mordredjeblair: renaming ++19:31
fungii'm still not sure i entirely follow why core is important to sync to lp. when i want to keep track of bugs for a project i go to lp and subscribe19:31
jeblairi think it's for security bugs19:31
fungiahh, that's something i'm as of yet still blind to19:31
fungiand does introduce a bit of a wrinkle, i can see19:32
jeblairbut it seems like ttx is willing to work around that, and we're more leaning toward renaming, so let's do that.19:32
jeblairwe'll rename -drivers in gerrit to -milestone, and create -ptl groups and give them tag access19:33
jeblair#topic gearman19:33
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jeblairzaro, mordred: what's the latest?19:34
* mordred landing - will drop from meeting in a bit19:34
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mordredjeblair: krow is hacking on cancel today19:34
jeblairsweet19:34
zarojeblair: i'm working on getting label changes to update gearman functions.19:34
zarojeblair: having a difficult time due to jenkins bugs.19:34
jeblairugh19:35
jeblairsounds like things are moving; let me know if you need anything from me19:35
jeblair#topic reviewday19:35
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zarook.  might need your help if don't get it done today.19:35
pleia2ok, I think I finally got all the variables sorted out, needs some code reviews19:35
pleia2https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21158/19:36
pleia2also need gerrit user, not sure how automatic set up is on the server, only have .ssh/config file right now in puppet but "git review -s" may nede to be ru19:36
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pleia2run19:36
pleia2so 1. create gerrit user 2. test that it works with the files we have I guess19:36
jeblairyou mean 'reviewday' user?19:37
pleia2yeah19:37
jeblairon the host or in gerrit?19:37
pleia2which goes in to pull reviewday stats19:37
fungia reviewday account in gerrit19:37
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pleia2gerrit19:37
pleia2host is handled in puppet19:37
jeblairah, ok.  gotcha, the 'git review -s' bit confused me19:37
jeblairyeah, adding a role account is a manual process for an admin, i think.19:38
pleia2well, the user on the host uses the gerrit user, it has a .ssh/config file19:38
jeblairfungi: you done that yet?  you want to take this one?19:38
fungipleia2: i can help take care of the gerrit account19:38
pleia2thanks fungi19:38
fungijeblair: you beat me to it19:38
fungieys19:38
fungiyes too19:38
jeblair#action fungi create reviewday user in gerrit19:38
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jeblairpleia2: i think the only thing you'd need is to accept the authorized keys19:39
fungipleia2: i'll get up with you on that after i review your change19:39
pleia2jeblair: yeah, that's my hope19:39
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jeblairpleia2: you could either do that by having the reviewday program accept them, or add known_hosts to puppet19:40
pleia2I'd prefer known_hosts (adding autoaccept to reviewday makes me feel not so good)19:40
jeblairthat's fine.  i wouldn't add 'always accept' but rather, 'accept on first connection'.19:41
pleia2so I can add that patch in to puppet for the gerrit server19:41
pleia2ah, fair enough19:41
jeblairyour call19:41
pleia2I'll do known_hosts19:41
jeblairok19:42
jeblair#topic pypi mirror / requirements19:42
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mordredsigh. websockify has made a broken release. nova needs to be version pinned19:42
jeblairmordred: perfect timing19:42
mordredyah19:42
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fungi"reasons we need better mirroring"19:42
fungior better requirements handling i guess in this case19:43
jeblairso mordred and i just hashed out a possible way to deal with the situation of having transitive requirements through 3 levels of unreleased software.19:43
fungidoes it involve bodily violence at pycon?19:43
jeblairit's going to take some time, including things like subclassing or extending pip.19:43
jeblairso it might be next week before i have something.19:44
jeblair#topic baremetal testing19:44
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pleia2so, I got familiar with how baremetal testing w/ incubator works: https://github.com/tripleo/incubator/blob/master/notes.md19:44
pleia2then last week spoke with devananda about loose plan and updated the ticket: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/108279519:44
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1082795 in openstack-ci "Add baremetal testing" [High,Triaged]19:44
pleia2echohead is working on removing devstack requirement, instead editing diskimage-builder to create a more appropriate "bootstrap" VM19:44
pleia2(not really sure how it differs from devstack exactly, but might have less going on, horizon probably isn't needed...)19:45
pleia2anyway, the thought is to use devstack-gate to run a sort of bootstrap-gate instead which will then spin up the baremetal instances and do all tests (essentially, "do incubator notes")19:45
pleia2what I need are some pointers to getting a handle on this overall, I've read some about devstack-gate, went back to read about the whole process to find out when exactly it's run (also read up on glance, since we'll be doing some demo baremetal image-stashing during this process)19:45
pleia2but when it comes to starting to add all of this to ci, I'm still lacking a bit of the glue in my understanding that will make this all possible practically19:46
pleia2so while echohead gets bootstrap in diskimage-builder ready, I need some background (maybe some docs to read today, then check in with someone tomorrow morinng to outline some practical first steps?)19:46
* ttx waves19:46
pleia2EOF :)19:46
jeblairttx: mind if we take a 5 min gerrit outage on friday to rename oslo-config to oslo.config?19:46
jeblairttx: friday evening us time19:46
ttxjeblair, fungi: there is no specific date for RC119:47
ttxso there is no good or bad time for an outage19:47
jeblairttx: oh, ok.  then do you have a feeling for when would be best to take that outage?19:47
ttxjeblair: wahtever is best for you.19:47
jeblairokay, well, fri night still seems good, so let's stick with that then.19:47
jeblairpleia2: have you read the devstack-gate readme?19:48
pleia2jeblair: yep19:48
pleia2doesn't really seem built at the moment to s/devstack/some other rebuilt openstack instance19:49
pleia2s/rebuilt/prebuilt19:49
ttxjeblair: for LP/Gerrit groups: +1 to renaming. I can work around the core issue. Subscribing all of them to security bugs was just a cool shortcut19:49
devanandapleia2: a while back, i worked through this, and found it very helpful: https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/README.md#developer-setup19:49
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pleia2devananda: ok great, I got that started on my desktop yesterday but haven't brought it up yet19:50
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jeblairpleia2: so there are two parts of devstack-gate that deal with devstack, the image-creation, and then running devstack itself.  the rest is general node management.19:50
jeblairpleia2: we can change whichever bits of those we need to to make plugging something else in possible.19:51
pleia2image creation us done with diskimage-builder, correct?19:51
pleia2at least, partially19:51
jeblairpleia2: devstack-gate does not do that now, it spins up a new vm and images it using the cloud provider's api.19:51
pleia2ah, ok19:51
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jeblairpleia2: are you going to pycon?19:52
devanandapleia2: we'll still build the bootstrap, deploy, and demo images using dib (or download those from /LATEST/, once dib is gated)19:52
pleia2jeblair: no, but I can wander down some evening next week if it's helpful19:52
ttxjeblair: in corner cases we might have to rename -core teams in LP instead of deleting -- I remember LP is a bit picky when there is a ML attached to group.19:52
pleia2devananda: yeah, I think I was wondering devstack-gate-wise whether we'd want some standby bootstraps like we currently have standby devstacks all ready for testing (as I understand it), and how those would be created19:53
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devanandapleia2: d-g should probably use its existing methods for creating those19:53
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devanandapleia2: but, no, standby-bootstrap doesn't really make sense to me. bootstrap will be a VM running inside the devstack-gate-created instance19:54
pleia2devananda: ok19:54
pleia2right, that makes sene19:54
pleia2sense19:54
ttxjeblair: weird, most -core teams on LP activated their ML.19:55
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pleia2ok, I'll play around with the devstack-gate developer-setup to get a better understanding of this and go from there19:56
jeblairttx: good19:56
jeblairpleia2: cool, i'm happy to help out, and we should see if we can get together with mordred this week.19:56
pleia2sounds good19:56
ttxjeblair: I'll ping PTLs before purging the cinder and quantum ones.19:57
jeblairttx: I have made the core groups not be admins of openstack-cla.19:57
jeblairttx: people were getting confused and still approving membership.19:57
jeblairttx: i expect we'll want to delete that group eventually, but i'm hesitant to do so right now.19:57
ttxjeblair: there is a corner case if some people are in ~openstack only by way of a core team19:58
ttxthey could lose the general ML list subscription19:58
ttxbut we can manually check that before deleting the group19:58
jeblair#topic open discussion19:58
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jeblairttx: yeah, that would be a nice thing to do.19:58
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jeblairthanks everyone!19:59
jeblair#endmeeting19:59
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar 12 19:59:35 2013 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:59
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ttxPublic service announcement: no TC meeting today. Next meeting (project/release meeting) is in one hour.20:00
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danwentttx: if its simple, can I go later in today's meeting?  I have a conflict until half-past the hour20:59
ttxdanwent: sure, you can go last21:00
danwentthx21:00
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ttxmarkmc, heckj, notmyname, bcwaldon, jgriffith, vishy, gabrielhurley: around ?21:00
gabrielhurley\o21:00
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bcwaldonttx: hey hey21:00
jgriffitho/21:01
markmchey21:01
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ttxlost heckj, notmyname, vishy to the DST21:01
notmynamehere21:02
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bcwaldonheckj might be afk today21:02
notmynamesorry. was fending off recruiting agency phone calls21:02
ttxdolphm, henrynash: want to stand in ?21:02
ttx#startmeeting project21:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 12 21:02:38 2013 UTC.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'project'21:02
ttxAgenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting21:02
ttxdanwent asked to go last.21:03
gabrielhurleyI'm not last???21:03
gabrielhurleyOMG21:03
ttxToday we'll look into progress towards RC1 production, which is summarized in a graph at:21:03
ttx#link http://status.openstack.org/release/rc/21:03
ttxhint: those should be going /down/.21:03
ttx#topic General announcements21:03
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ttxPTL elections for Ceilometer/Keystone/Nova in progress, don't forget to vote21:04
markmcwe should have a papal conclave instead of boring elections21:04
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ttxmarkmc: habemus PTLus21:04
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Vekmarkmc: see schneier's write-up of that; makes for interesting reating.21:04
Veks/reating/reading/21:04
jgriffithmarkmc: popeless idea21:05
ttxmarkmc, mordred, annegentle, sdague/davidkranz/jaypipes: Updates from Stable/CI/QA/Docs teams ?21:05
annegentledoc team meeting today, transcript at… sec.21:05
markmcVek, thanks for the tip ... bedtime reading :)21:05
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davidkranzJust moving along.21:05
markmcno stable news21:05
annegentle#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/MeetingLogs/DocTeam0312201321:06
sdaguettx: yeh just scraping through stack traces to try to reduce them in components prior to release21:06
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sdaguewe still get quite a number on a successful tempest run21:06
ttxsdague: ack21:07
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ttx#topic Oslo status21:07
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ttx#link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:07
ttxmarkmc: o/21:07
markmcwent through and triaged bugs etc.21:07
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markmcI think we're in good shape21:07
ttx1 blocker left: bug 112276321:07
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1122763 in oslo "ZMQ ipc socket file is created using un-sanitized network input" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112276321:07
ttxCan we cut the incubator stable/grizzly branch once that bug gets fixed ?21:07
markmcyeah, there's a patch with a +221:07
ttxOr do you want to let it bake for a few days ?21:08
markmchappy to just go ahead and branch21:08
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ttxOK, we might get to that tomorrow then21:08
ttxoslo-config is published now ?21:08
markmcI'll take a look at other projects to see how out of sync they are21:08
markmcbut everyone is welcome to help out with that21:08
markmcyeah, oslo.config 1.1.0 is on pypi21:08
markmcwe're going through some shenanigans to update all pip-requires to use it21:08
ttx#info ETA for oslo grizzly branch: March 1321:08
markmcwaiting for our pypi mirror to rebuild21:09
markmchopefully should get those changes in tonight21:09
ttxLooks like we are in good shape here21:09
ttxAnything else on the oslo topic ?21:09
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markmcnope, that's it21:09
markmcthanks21:09
ttxthanks!21:09
ttxdolphm, ayoung, henrynash: around to represent keystone ?21:10
ttxhmm, let's do swift then21:10
notmynamelet's do swift :-)21:10
ttx#topic Swift status21:10
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ttxnotmyname: o/21:10
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.8.021:11
ttxnotmyname: How is it going ?21:11
notmynamewe've got one more patch to merge, and then the plan is to cut the rc tomorrow afternoon21:11
ttxnotmyname: cool!21:11
ttx#info ETA for Swift 1.8.0-rc1: March 1321:11
notmynamettx: what's the plan between you and me to cut the rc?21:12
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ttxYou should change _version in __init__.py from 1.7.7 to 1.8.0 at this point21:12
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notmynameI'll do that with my AUTHORS/CHANGELOG update21:12
ttxpush the changelog...21:12
ttxthen I think I can take it and produce 1.8.0-rc1 from there21:12
ttxFWIW I'll rename the Launchpad milestone to 1.8.0-rc1 -- I'll just move the bugs and blueprints over to "final" 1.8.0 when it's done.21:12
notmynameok21:12
ttxI updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseTeam/HowToRelease for the curious21:13
ttxnotmyname: anything else ?21:13
notmynamenot from me. questions?21:14
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ttxyay21:14
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ttx#topic Glance status21:14
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ttxbcwaldon: o/21:15
bcwaldonttx: markwash is going to give the update today21:15
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markwashttx: o/21:15
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:15
ttxI see. training.21:15
ttxmarkwash: 10 bugs on the list21:15
ttxAre those all RC1 blockers now ?21:15
markwashttx: most, yes. . all the ones that aren't in progress are definitely21:16
markwashI have very high confidence of the ones in progress being done quickly, reviews are up21:16
ttxmarkmc: who will work on bug 1154317 ?21:16
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1154317 in glance "Publish new API version '2.1'" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115431721:16
bcwaldonI will21:16
* ttx assigns21:16
bcwaldonmark conflict21:17
markmc(get a new name, losers)21:17
ttxarrrh21:17
markwashttx: yeah that just came up21:17
ttxthis can only get worse21:17
ttxat least in Ubuntu there was only one Mark21:18
* Vek feels like he's at a convention of Marks21:18
ttxmarkwash: what would be your ETA for getting to the bottom of this list of bugs ?21:18
ttxend of week ? start of next week ?21:18
markwashlets say start of next21:19
markwashonly because of that last one 113170521:19
ttx#info ETA for Glance grizzly-rc1: March 1921:19
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ttxmarkwash: will track progress based on that21:20
ttxAnything more on Glance ?21:20
markwashnot from me21:20
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ttx#topic Cinder status21:20
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ttxjgriffith: hi!21:20
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:20
jgriffithhowdy21:21
ttx5 bugs on the RC list21:21
ttxAll RC1 blockers ?21:21
jgriffithall but one21:21
jgriffithwe can remove 113476821:21
ttxok, will do21:21
jgriffithit's better to have that NOT be called actually :)21:22
ttxyou can still fix it in RC1 :)21:22
jgriffith:)21:22
jgriffithTwo fo those are in review21:22
jgriffithI think we're in good shape if I can get folks to stop trying to sneak stuff in21:22
jgriffithMost of what's coming up now is borderline21:22
ttxjgriffith: that leaves only 1131322 not in progress21:23
jgriffithttx: yeah and that's critical IMO21:23
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jgriffithttx: winston said he's got it handled21:23
ttxjgriffith: cutting RC1 early so that we can redirect them to a havana master may solve that21:23
jgriffithI'll double check with him when he's online tonight21:23
jgriffithttx: agreed21:23
ttxHow about we try to do RC1 at the end of the week ?21:23
jgriffithI've told folks I want to be done RC1 tomorrow21:23
ttxoh.21:23
ttxThat works for me :)21:24
jgriffithlet's compromise and go Thursd21:24
jgriffith:)21:24
ttx#info ETA for cinder grizzly-rc1: Mar 1421:24
jgriffithThursday morning MT21:24
jgriffithexcellent21:24
ttxexcellent.21:24
ttxjgriffith: are you using the cinder-core ML on Launchpad for anything ? Or can I delete it ?21:24
jgriffithnuke it21:24
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ttxwill do.21:24
jgriffithI saw the discussion earlier :)21:25
ttxAnything more in Cinder ?21:25
jgriffithNope21:25
jgriffiththanks21:25
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ttx#topic Nova status21:25
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vishyhi21:25
ttxvishy: o/21:25
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:25
ttx18 bugs on the list21:26
ayoungI'm here.21:26
ttxIs this the blockers list, or do you still need to punt some of those to grizzly-rc-potential ?21:26
ttxayoung: ok, can you represent keystone and do the keystone section after Nova ?21:26
vishyno we removed all of the relevant ones21:27
Vekbug 1147746 may be fixed in novaclient...21:27
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1147746 in nova "nova services API is incompatible w/ novaclient" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114774621:27
vishymost of them are in progress21:27
ayoungttx will do21:27
vishythere might be a couple more we pull off if they don't go well21:27
Veknot 100% certain of that, mind...21:27
ttxvishy: ok21:27
ttx2 critical bugs are missing from the blockers list: bug 1148614 and bug 115240121:27
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1148614 in nova "Reboot with bad volume fails ungracefully" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114861421:27
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1152401 in nova "xenapi: Detecting bad-volumes relies on 120 sec timeout" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115240121:27
ttxshould we put them on, or downgrade their severity ?21:28
Vek1148614 in gate, I believe21:28
Vek1152401 I don't know.21:28
vishyhmm i didn't see those21:28
vishylooking21:28
russellblooks like we should downgrade the 2nd one21:29
russellb"This bug is to remind us to fix this in Nova when/if a patch from Citrix becomes available to allow us to 'fail-fast' here."21:29
ttxyeah, "High"21:29
russellbdone21:29
ttxI'll add the first one to the RC1 list21:29
ttxoh it is21:29
vishydoesn't look like the second is targettable21:29
vishyttx: beat you :)21:29
ttxvishy: That's stil a large set of bugs, so I think we should try to do RC1 mid next week21:30
ttxdoes tat sound reasonable as an objective ?21:31
ttxthat*21:31
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vishyyes21:32
vishyi think they will go quickly21:32
ttx#info nova grizzly-rc1 ETA: March 2021:32
ttxvishy: yes, I think they will, but generally some get added as we get closer :)21:33
ttxi.e. when there is just 1-3 left it tends to take a long time to get rid of the last ones21:33
ttxAny question on Nova ?21:33
ttx#topic Keystone status21:34
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ttxayoung: hey!21:34
Kharechi all21:34
ayoungttx, OK, so looking at the G Bug list...21:34
ayoung#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:34
ttxThanks for representing keystone :)21:34
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ttx15 bugs on the list... I'd like to reduce this so that we complete one day21:35
ttxAre all of those blockers, or are some of them just targets of opportunity ?21:35
ttxayoung: My advice is to remove the rc1 target and tag those "grizzly-rc-potential" to keep them on your radar without blocking the release on them21:35
ayoungttx, well, most are underway.21:35
ayoungOK...let me see21:35
ttxayoung: I'm more concerned with the ones that are unassigned and unstarted21:35
ayoungttx, ok. looking at them...21:36
ttxayoung: you don't need to reduce the list while in the meeting21:36
ttxwould be great to do it today though21:36
ayounga couple of them just came in recently, and we are still trying to reproduce.21:36
ayoungConfirmed by a community member is not the same as confirmed by core....21:36
ttxayoung: use 'incomplete' liberally to track those21:37
ayoungwill do21:37
ttxayoung: ideally when you get to a clean list of blockers, you should also try to get people assigned to fix them21:37
ttx(can be reassigned afterwards)21:37
ttxunassigned bugs tend to not get fixed for some reason21:37
ayoungttx, right.21:37
ayoungWe'll triage here shortly.21:38
ttx#action ayoung/heckj to reduce the RC1 list to pure RC1 blockers and make sure theyr are assigned21:38
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ayoungttx, hey, how about the two people actually running for PTL?21:38
ttx#action dolphm/henrynash to reduce the RC1 list to pure RC1 blockers and make sure theyr are assigned21:38
ayoung+121:38
ttxayoung: Someone was complaining on list about lack of recent python-keystoneclient on PyPI. What's the status for that ?21:39
ayoungttx, no idea.  I have not been paying attention to PyPI.21:39
ttxayoung: ok21:39
ayoungWe can also take that as an action item21:39
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ttxayoung: when do you think you can get to the bottom of that RC1 buglist ? End of week, early next week ?21:40
ttxmid next week ?21:40
ayoungThere are only 5 un asssigned, we should be able to knock that out shortly.21:40
ayoung7 in triaged or assigned that are not21:40
ttxlet's target early next week21:40
ayoungunderway...21:40
ayoungSounds good.21:41
ttx#info keystone grizzly-rc1 ETA: March 1921:41
ttxAnything more about Keystone ?21:41
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ttxayoung: thanks for your help!21:42
ayoungttx, one issue worth noting21:42
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ayoungwe are trying to get clarity, but it seems like some of the auth_token middleware pieces (smokestack)21:42
ayounghave had a bit of an issue moving from V2 to V321:42
ttx#action ttx to follow up with heckj/dolphm/henrynash about new python-keystoneclient release21:42
ayoungwe need people to provide decent bug reports on things that break in Keystone around this.21:43
ttxayoung: noted. Maybe raising the issue on the ML would help gettig more eyes on this21:43
ayoungFor the most part, we try to keep Keystone changes seamless, but if people hit a snag, the more data we get the better.21:43
ayoungttx, if necessary.21:43
ttxok, moving on21:43
ttx#topic Horizon status21:43
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gabrielhurleyyo21:44
ttxgabrielhurley: hey21:44
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:44
gabrielhurleynew bug reports, but generally not serious ones. lots of small fixes for the quantum features that got merged right at the end.21:44
gabrielhurleylots in progress, many pending merge21:44
ttx13 bugs on list -- are those all blockers ?21:44
gabrielhurleyehhhh... debatable when you get to the "medium" and "low" ones21:44
ttxgabrielhurley: let me rephrase21:44
ttxgabrielhurley: are all of those, at this point, things you wouldn't consider releasing without ?21:45
gabrielhurleythey're all things I'd like to see fixed, especially given that most of them have patches up21:45
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ttxright21:45
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gabrielhurleyif they prove problematic I'll bump 'em21:45
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ttxif you knock them down fast enough, no problem21:45
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gabrielhurleybut I'd like to target early next week like the other projects.21:45
ttxok21:46
ttx#info horizon grizzly-rc1 ETA: March 1921:46
gabrielhurleysounds perfect21:46
gabrielhurleyI'll start kicking things later this week21:46
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/23901/ should probably be -2ed until we open havana21:47
ttxI saw it trying to sneak into rc1 :)21:47
gabrielhurleytrue. I marked the BP as Havana21:47
gabrielhurleybut didn't mark the review yet21:47
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ttxAnything more on Horizon ?21:47
gabrielhurleynope, that's all21:47
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ttxdanwent: around ?21:47
danwentttx: yup21:47
ttx#topic Quantum status21:48
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danwentthanks for switching order21:48
ttxnp21:48
ttxFirst there was a question on the list about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18216/21:48
ttxShould quantum-scheduler be considered implemented without that ?21:48
danwentttx: yes, this commit was abandoned b/c we had yong split this into three reviews that were easier for reviewers to digest21:48
danwentall of those new reviews merged21:49
ttxok, great21:49
ttxdanwent: maybe chime in on that thread, it's hidden in the Nova PTL thread21:49
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danwentWe have been targeting an RC1 today and are on track.  Key issue though is openstack-common items.21:49
danwentttx: ok21:49
ttxNice progress overall on http://status.openstack.org/release/rc/21:49
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:49
ttx6 bugs on the list -- I assume those are all blockers ?21:49
danwentno, only items that are high.21:50
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danwentone of the medium issues may not make it21:50
ttxdanwent: so your ETA is still the end of today ?21:50
danwentttx: well, i'm not sure if that makes sense if oslo stuff is targeting tomorrow21:51
danwentthat's something i wanted to bring up here21:51
ttxdanwent: agreed21:51
danwenti'm OOO rest of week21:51
danwentbut we can have markmcclain pitch in do a release tomorrow21:51
danwentif we need to wait for oslo21:51
danwentor we could branch today, cherry-pick oslo changes, but open master for havana21:52
ttxdanwent: so here is how we'll do the RC1 cut... at some point you'll bump the release in setup.py to 2013.2. And I'll cut milestone-proposed from the previous commit21:52
ttxtag that rc1.21:52
danwentok21:52
ttxI'd rather not cherrypick after rc1, because that would mean do an rc2 :)21:53
ttxI'd rather have the rc2 triggered by a critical bug, not by rushing the process21:53
danwentok, wasn't sure if we could branch, but not declare an RC121:53
ttxdanwent: we actually can.21:53
danwentok, that would be my preference.21:53
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ttxdanwent: your wish is my command21:54
danwentthen when oslo comes in, we'll pull that over, and declare RC1?21:54
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ttxdanwent: yes.21:54
danwentgreat21:54
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ttxdanwent: just push the new version and ping me. I'll cut milestone-proposed from the previous commit in master21:54
danwentok, great21:54
ttxLet's discuss that in 5 min if you're still around21:55
danwentk21:55
ttxwill do a pre-flight check21:55
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ttx#info quantum grizzly-rc1 ETA March 1321:55
ttxdanwent: are you using the quantum-core ML on Launchpad for anything ? Or can I delete it ?21:55
danwentttx: we use it a fair amount actually21:56
danwentasking for core devs to review things, etc.21:56
ttxdanwent: Ah. Interesting. let's discuss that in 4 minutes too21:56
ttxAnything else on Quantum ?21:56
danwentnope21:56
ttx#topic Incubated-in-Grizzly/Integrated-in-Havana projects21:56
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ttxanyone from ceilometer and/or Heat ?21:57
sdakeyar21:57
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/grizzly-rc121:57
sdakeeverything looks good except for one possible problem21:57
ttx8 bugs targeted -- are those all release blockers ?21:57
sdakenot all blockers, but are like 1 hr of work each except for 1 bug21:57
sdakehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/109601721:57
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1096017 in heat/grizzly "AutoScalingGroup missing VPCZoneIdentifier property" [Medium,Triaged]21:57
sdakedev is out, and didn't send me copy of his work21:57
sdakeso i'll have to sort that out today21:57
ttxok21:58
ttxwhen do you want to cut an RC1 ?21:58
sdakei'll let you know when i understand the bug better21:58
ttxlater this week ?21:58
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sdakewould like to shoot for early next week if possible to provide time to sort out this bug21:58
sdakehe spent few weeks on it21:58
ttxsure21:58
sdakeso it must be a bit challenging21:58
sdakelets try 19th then?21:59
ttxanyone from ceilometer ?21:59
ttxsdake: works for me21:59
sdakethanks21:59
ttxOK, then. that's all folks21:59
ttx#endmeeting22:00
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gabrielhurley#startmeeting horizon22:01
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gabrielhurley#topic General22:01
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gabrielhurleyhello folks!22:02
jpichhey22:02
mrungeo/22:02
gabrielhurleyanother week has come around oh so quickly22:02
vkmchey o/22:02
lchenghello22:02
david-lylehi22:02
gabrielhurleythings are progressing well. lots of reviews up for quantum stuff. that's good. nothing critical or unmanageable.22:02
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gabrielhurleydon't have much off the top of my head, so let's just go to bug discussion22:03
gabrielhurley#topic bugs and blueprints22:03
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lchengI'd like to get some feedback on this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/114482022:03
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1144820 in horizon "Fade out success message automatically" [Undecided,In progress]22:03
lchengCurious about people's thought on auto-fading alert messages..22:04
mrungelcheng, I have seen people arguing in both directions: yes, we want, nooo, no way22:04
gabrielhurleyThough the fully configurable option is the most complex, it seems the most flexible22:04
gabrielhurleyI wouldn't add this for Grizzly, but it'd be great for Havana22:05
mrungeI'd favor the configurable option as well22:05
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gabrielhurleypersonally i *am* in favor of auto-fading them after some amount of time22:05
mrungegives you some time to fix the issues22:05
* mrunge too22:05
gabrielhurleyI targeted the bug to H122:06
mrungebut one of our qa guys say: I want to read each error/warning...22:06
gabrielhurleyand I'll add a comment in favor of the cofigurable version22:06
lchengI guess we can go with this type of configuration:22:06
lchengHORIZON_CONFIG = {22:06
lcheng    ..22:06
lcheng    'auto_fade_message': {22:06
lcheng     'delay': 3000,22:06
lcheng      'fade_duration': 1500,22:06
lcheng     'alerts' : ['success', 'info']22:06
mrungegabrielhurley, I think jpich did that already22:06
lcheng    },22:06
lcheng    ..22:06
lcheng}22:06
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gabrielhurleymrunge: it wasn't set just now... ::shrug::22:06
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mrungeah no, I meant comment on the config option22:07
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gabrielhurleyoh22:07
gabrielhurleyyeah22:07
gabrielhurleycool. the one bug I wanna ask about is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/115347722:07
lchengcool,  I'll implement it that way.22:07
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1153477 in horizon "editing security group rules ends up with ValueError when Quantum secgroup is enabled" [High,Confirmed]22:07
gabrielhurleyis amotoki or anyone else from quantum able to provide an update on that?22:07
jpichcheers, lcheng22:08
gabrielhurleyI'm hoping it's as simple as just checking the ID type as we do in some other places...22:08
gabrielhurleybut I'd like confirmation of that22:08
mrungeI must admit, I haven't seen that error yet22:09
david-lyleI'm trying to reproduce it22:09
mrungebut it's worth to fix it anyways22:09
gabrielhurleynot sure if it's dependent on quantumclient version or something of the like22:09
gabrielhurleyjust got quantumclient updated to the latest 2.2.0 today so that might help some things22:09
gabrielhurleyall in all the bug list is looking pretty reasonable22:10
mrungewhat about https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1011171 ? can we just close that?22:10
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1011171 in horizon "Instances & Volumes tab is being opened inside itself recursively " [High,Incomplete]22:10
mrungeand the other incomplete ones?22:10
mrunge... just to reduce the list22:10
gabrielhurleymrunge: incomplete bugs are garbage-collected after some amount of time in launchpad22:10
jpichNormally incomplete bugs expire after 60 days, not sure what's up with that one22:11
kspearyeah, there are some very old ones still around22:11
gabrielhurleywhy is that still open22:11
gabrielhurleyweird22:11
gabrielhurleyokay, yeah, any that old should be closed22:11
kspeari closed at least one last week that had been around for > 6 months22:11
gabrielhurleythey escaped launchpad's janitor somehow22:11
mrungeI could live with manual closing22:11
gabrielhurleyyes, please close them if they're that old for sure22:11
kspearalso remove the importance if it has been set previous22:11
mrungeif we decide to close them after 6 months22:11
gabrielhurley#action close out incomplete bugs that have escaped launchpad's janitor22:12
gabrielhurleyfor those of you that didn't hear it in the Project Status meeting right before this, we'll be cutting RC1 a week from today, so bug fixes should go in this week.22:12
gabrielhurleyI'll make sure to get my couple in by Saturday at the latest (I'm traveling this week so my time is questionable)22:13
gabrielhurley(if anybody's in seattle and wants to grab a beer with the Nebula folks, shoot me an email)22:13
vkmcThanks for the reminder :) I wasn't sure about RC1 deadline22:14
gabrielhurleyany other Grizzly bugs people want to talk about? otherwise I'm gonna open it up for general bug/blueprint/whatever discussion.22:14
vkmcHey guys, I would like your suggestions about this if you have a second. Listing the resources associated to a tenant is needed to perform the clean up when deleting it.22:14
vkmcMost APIs don't have that feature and, after discussing this with devs involved in each service, the only way to do that is making a cURL call. I updated the whiteboard with some notes about this. How should I proceed in this case?22:14
gabrielhurleywhat do you mean not supported?22:15
vkmcWhiteboard here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/tenant-deletion22:15
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vkmcI mean that is not possible to filter resources by tenant id22:15
gabrielhurleyoh, got it. not all the APIs have that type of filter. some do, but many still don't.22:15
gabrielhurleywe'd have to list everything and filter on our end22:16
vkmcAdmin users can list, e.g. instances, from their own tenant... but cannot do the same to other tenants22:16
gabrielhurleyyeah22:16
gabrielhurleyI'm curious if we could use/abuse some keystone feature to make that work22:16
gabrielhurleyeither the token create method or the new "trusts" stuff22:17
vkmcWe would need a super-admin heh22:17
gabrielhurleybasically to use the admin API to get a token that would allow us to request things as if we were that user.22:17
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gabrielhurleythat's trusts-like22:17
vkmcHm.. it sound a bit insecure22:17
gabrielhurleyIf you're up for it, I'd talk to the keystone folks (ayoung, dolphm, heckj) and see if there's a way this would work in the v3 API.22:18
gabrielhurleyI suspect there might be22:18
gabrielhurleywhich would be really cool22:18
vkmcI'm totally on it, so please add me to CC if you contact them22:18
lchengThe trust api supports delegation and impersonation.. I suppose we can use impersonation for that.22:19
gabrielhurleythat's what I was thinking22:19
gabrielhurleyworth finding out22:19
gabrielhurleyit'd be a cool "hey look! we're doing something new and shiny with the v3 API in Havana" feature.22:19
vkmcchmouel mentioned something about the 'reseller admin' role... if that is possible in Cinder, maybe it's possible in other services22:19
vkmcYeah sounds great :)22:20
gabrielhurleycool22:20
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gabrielhurleyother topics?22:20
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jpichWe might want/have to go through the dance of adjusting the meeting time in a couple of weeks after DST hits Europe22:21
jpich...just throwing it out there :-)22:21
jpichIt's not as bad for me as it'll be for the continental folks22:21
gabrielhurleyyeah, it's screwy and tough22:22
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dolphmgabrielhurley: lcheng: ++22:23
gabrielhurleycool22:23
gabrielhurleyokay22:24
gabrielhurleylet's call it a wrap22:24
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gabrielhurleygood stuff everyone!22:24
gabrielhurleynext week is the RC22:24
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gabrielhurleyhave a good week!22:24
gabrielhurley#endmeeting22:24
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lchengthanks, bye22:24
jpichcheers22:24
mrungesame to you, and enjoy your travel22:24
vkmcCheers!22:24
david-lylebye22:25
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