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| nati2 | no ci meeting today? | 19:41 |
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| mtaylor | nati2: sorry - I got caught up in some other stuff | 19:42 |
| nati2 | gotcha :) | 19:42 |
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| zns | Are we meeting? THe wiki said Tue Oct 12th. I have seen evidence that it's Oct 11th today… | 20:01 |
| devcamcar | i thought we were ... | 20:03 |
| devcamcar | nm just saw a message from jbryce in my inbox | 20:03 |
| devcamcar | today is cancelled | 20:03 |
| markvoelker | zns: I think everyone is still hung over^H^H^H^H^H^H^H unpacking from the summit. =) | 20:03 |
| devcamcar | hah | 20:03 |
| pvo | I'm here if we are | 20:06 |
| jk0 | looks like we're skipping this week | 20:06 |
| pvo | I don't think my PPB emails are forwarding correctly | 20:06 |
| zns | pvo: What's a PPB email? | 20:06 |
| pvo | the ppb list that jonathan sends to. | 20:06 |
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| pvo | openstack-poc | 20:06 |
| zns | I didn't know there was one. Does he manage it or do I need to join it? | 20:06 |
| pvo | may need to be added: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net | 20:06 |
| zns | Looks like we've been added. Tx. | 20:07 |
| zns | markvoelker: there were some great parties... | 20:08 |
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| glenc | FIRST | 20:54 |
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| ttx | o/ | 20:59 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I'm standing in for jaypipes today | 21:00 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: I know. | 21:00 |
| glenc | I'm standing in something, too, but I'd rather not say what | 21:00 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: just making sure ;) | 21:00 |
| ttx | zns, vishy, devcamcar: around ? | 21:00 |
| devcamcar | o/ | 21:00 |
| vishy | o/ | 21:01 |
| ttx | ok, let's start, hopefully zns will catch up | 21:01 |
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| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 11 21:02:01 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:02 |
| ttx | Welcome everyone... Today's agenda is at: | 21:02 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/TeamMeeting | 21:02 |
| ttx | Please all make liberal use of #<command> for a richer meeting summary: | 21:02 |
| ttx | link (for links), info, idea (for notes), action (for TODOs), and help (for calls for help) | 21:02 |
| mtaylor | #agreed everyone should use #<command> for a richer meeting summary | 21:02 |
| mtaylor | #info link (for links), info, idea (for notes), action (for TODOs), and help (for calls for help) | 21:03 |
| mtaylor | :) | 21:03 |
| ttx | mtaylor: actually, only the chair can use agreed :P | 21:03 |
| mtaylor | BAH | 21:03 |
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| ttx | #topic Design Summit feedback | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Design Summit feedback" | 21:03 | |
| Vek | haha :) | 21:03 |
| ttx | So, last week we had the Design Summit | 21:03 |
| ttx | I hope mostly everyone made it back home now | 21:03 |
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| comstud | home but still hung over. | 21:04 |
| ttx | We didn't have a closing feedback session, mostly due to the start of the Conference | 21:04 |
| ttx | While memories are still fresh, do you have any comment ? | 21:04 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: I feel that sessions more on "bugs" / issues would be useful - in addition to forward looking blueprints (although that might be an issue of misuse of blueprints?) | 21:04 |
| * mtaylor thought that the Design Summit was rather productive this time | 21:04 | |
| mtaylor | anotherjesse: actually, I think that's the RIGHT use of blueprints | 21:04 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: the ec2 api session was an example of one that was very tactical | 21:04 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: some people propsoed that we have a pre-event that is more backward looking | 21:05 |
| patelna | we should create a bluerprint for bugs | 21:05 |
| ttx | but still technical | 21:05 |
| bcwaldon | anotherjesse: really? It was basically a discussion around why we support EC2 at all. I don't think it hit it's original purpose of the feature gap | 21:05 |
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| ttx | anotherjesse: something where we would present technical stuff so that most attendees are up to snuff when the design summit starts | 21:05 |
| westmaas | I think a session on how to handle a room full of 80 people, where 20 of those people want to talk, may be useful. | 21:05 |
| mtaylor | hehe | 21:05 |
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| ttx | Do you think we should run a SurveyMonkey thing to gather more precise feedback ? | 21:06 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: yes, that was another comment - that while core developers know roughly how everything works, outsiders don't have context to join | 21:06 |
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| mtaylor | I think we're getting to the point where more sessions, in more parallel that are smaller in scope would be helpful (getting closer to uds style) | 21:06 |
| westmaas | ttx: survey monkey would be good | 21:06 |
| mtaylor | and if we're at the point where there are 8 folks who need to be in all of the sessions, perhaps that's a good incentive for more delegation | 21:07 |
| patelna | #idea - survey monkey...good one | 21:07 |
| mtaylor | ++ | 21:07 |
| anotherjesse | bcwaldon: I didn't see it that way - I thought it was about "we use ec2 api, why does it have bugs" - beside the point though | 21:07 |
| ttx | #action ttx to set up some survey monkey for summit feedback | 21:07 |
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| ttx | #idea more sessions, in more parallel that are smaller in scope would be helpful | 21:08 |
| ttx | #idea pre-event that is more backward looking | 21:08 |
| medberry | +1 on more smaller sessions | 21:08 |
| mchow | #idea some context setting session at the begining for newcomers | 21:08 |
| ttx | vishy: since you were the critical path, do you think you can handle more parallelization ? | 21:09 |
| comstud | we need to work on human cloning? | 21:09 |
| vishy | yes | 21:09 |
| vishy | i think breaking out the working groups will help | 21:09 |
| patelna | hahahaha like that one | 21:09 |
| vishy | like block storage, etc. | 21:10 |
| ttx | #action ttx to ask powers that be about next design summit location plans | 21:10 |
| mtaylor | #idea have a week long design summit without conference co-location | 21:10 |
| glenc | I like that y'all created an index of etherpad pages, but it would have been nice to have had that in advance so that people unable to attend could follow along. | 21:10 |
| comstud | mtaylor +1 | 21:10 |
| mtaylor | glenc: +1 | 21:10 |
| rjh | where is said index? | 21:10 |
| ttx | glenc: actually, the wifi was so bad etherpad was a bit difficult | 21:11 |
| anotherjesse | #idea internet is important for a tech conference | 21:11 |
| KumarKR_HP | #are these sessions recorded? | 21:11 |
| mtaylor | also, uds carries an IRC room for each topic on the agenda and has that irc room on one of the projectors in the room so that people can attend rooms remotely as well | 21:11 |
| mtaylor | anotherjesse: ++ | 21:11 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: hopefully next time we can get rid of the conference pairing, which should allow to go to some lab or university, which have generally good coverage | 21:11 |
| devcamcar | worst conference wifi ever | 21:11 |
| vishy | glenc: we had serious connectivity issues for the conference | 21:12 |
| ttx | devcamcar: I had worse. | 21:12 |
| mtaylor | not to keep talking about UDS ... but the uds guys apparently ensure that all locations they use have at least a 45 meg connection that they can be handed | 21:12 |
| mtaylor | and then they run their own wifi on top of that connection | 21:12 |
| ttx | mtaylor: they arrive 10 days before the event to set it up | 21:12 |
| ttx | mtaylor: you propose to do that ? | 21:12 |
| mtaylor | it might not be a terrible idea to just use hotels that we know uds has been at before, so we can steal their research :) | 21:12 |
| anotherjesse | mtaylor: if you like how they do it so much, why don't you go there ... | 21:12 |
| bcwaldon | #idea copy uds wifi setup | 21:12 |
| anotherjesse | as well ;) | 21:12 |
| mtaylor | ttx: sure. being in a place for a week without proper internet is kind of crappy | 21:13 |
| ttx | definitely | 21:13 |
| mtaylor | anotherjesse: I will! | 21:13 |
| medberry | UDS folks tell the hosting venue that each participant will consume 6 wifi connections and to plan accordingly. | 21:13 |
| ttx | ok, that's good feedback | 21:13 |
| medberry | (and then we bring our own wifi gear as well.) | 21:13 |
| pvo | I guess I shouldn't have torrented the whole time | 21:13 |
| ttx | will do surveymonkey for more | 21:13 |
| mtaylor | medberry: ++ | 21:13 |
| mtaylor | medberry: you wanna set up our venue for us? :) | 21:13 |
| mtaylor | ttx: I know we can't actually co-locate with uds because of timing | 21:14 |
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| medberry | mtaylor, my mifi isn't going to handle that load either. :^) | 21:14 |
| ttx | ready for next topic ? | 21:14 |
| * medberry was tethered all week though | 21:14 | |
| mtaylor | ttx: but what if we went to the same venue they were about to go to just a few weeks earlier ... and then figure out if we can share the setup costs for the infrastructure with canonical | 21:14 |
| mtaylor | that way the venue would only have to outfitted once | 21:15 |
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| ttx | mtaylor: they basically set up their own, separate from the hotel. | 21:15 |
| mtaylor | it would be like, I don't know - collaboration! | 21:15 |
| mtaylor | ttx: I know | 21:15 |
| mtaylor | ttx: we could rent it from them or something | 21:15 |
| ttx | mtaylor: don't want to be the one that asks elmo to come 3 weeks early. | 21:15 |
| mtaylor | ttx: I'll do it :) | 21:15 |
| ttx | ok, next topic | 21:15 |
| mtaylor | ok | 21:15 |
| ttx | #topic EssexReleaseSchedule final discussion | 21:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "EssexReleaseSchedule final discussion" | 21:15 | |
| ttx | Based on the session we had at the Design Summit, I updated the page at: | 21:15 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/EssexReleaseSchedule | 21:16 |
| ttx | The main change from Diablo is that we have a "RC at will" period starting after the last milestone... | 21:16 |
| ttx | ...where each project produces release candidates until one is deemed good enough for release (and open the next cycle) | 21:16 |
| ttx | Compared to the summit chart I adjusted things a bit (only 4 milestones) | 21:17 |
| ttx | Please doublecheck and let me know if you're OK with it | 21:17 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: I know jaypipes is fine with it, but your input is welcome | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: thanks :) | 21:17 |
| ttx | It's 4 balanced milestones, E4 on March 1st, with 5 weeks at the end for stabilization work and production of Release Candidates | 21:17 |
| patelna | that's good...to see stablization work is included now | 21:18 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: lgtm | 21:18 |
| pvo | I like it | 21:18 |
| comstud | +1 | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: yep, works for me. I know glance is planning to release our RC 1 week ahead of time | 21:18 |
| ttx | We expect keystone and glance to use the very beginning of that last period, and nova / dashboard to use the late part | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: not sure if we want to document that somewhere | 21:18 |
| ttx | devcamcar, zns, vishy: ack ? | 21:19 |
| anotherjesse | vishy said ack | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: maybe just the milestones listed in launchpad are good enough | 21:19 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: one week ahead of nova, actually. | 21:19 |
| ttx | which still falls after E4 in the "RC at will" period | 21:20 |
| devcamcar | ttx: yes, that's what we're planning on as well | 21:20 |
| vishy | aye | 21:20 |
| vishy | ack | 21:20 |
| markmc | ttx, RBP isn't listed on the schedule? I can't remember whether there was a conclusion about branching vs freezing trunk | 21:20 |
| ttx | ok, will make it "official" then | 21:20 |
| ttx | markmc: RBP will actually happen when the RC is deemed "good enough" | 21:21 |
| ttx | that's when F will open | 21:21 |
| markmc | ttx, k, thanks | 21:21 |
| ttx | since the PTLs want people to focus on RCs until one is "good enough" | 21:21 |
| ttx | OK, let's go to project status, in roughly the dependency order... | 21:21 |
| ttx | is zns around ? or anyone else from keystone ? | 21:22 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: I will agree for ziad | 21:22 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: but can you replace him for Keystone status ? | 21:22 |
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| ttx | Let's start with Glance and give him a chance to join | 21:23 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance status" | 21:23 | |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: So is a plan coming together for Essex in Glance ? | 21:23 |
| ttx | or is it for Glance in Essex ? | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: definitely | 21:24 |
| ttx | (No Swift this week since nobody replaces John, who is in vacation) | 21:24 |
| * Vek glances at essex | 21:24 | |
| bcwaldon | Be sure to check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-1 for everything we have targeted at the first Essex milestone. Currently we're looking at one blueprint and 23 bugs. | 21:24 |
| bcwaldon | Jay also asked me to mention that he sent a summit summary email to the list highlighting what we are going to focus on in Glance during the Essex release. It outlines some major changes planned for the HTTP APIs and how we are going to make Glance more robust. Any questions I cannot answer today regarding anything in that email I will make sure to relay to him. | 21:24 |
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| ttx | Looks good. Did you start filing blueprints for the remaining stuff mentioned in that email ? | 21:25 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I haven't but I am assuming Jay will | 21:25 |
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| ttx | ok. Questions on Glance ? | 21:26 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I think some already exist that aren't yet targeted | 21:26 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: ideally you set the "Series goal" to Essex | 21:26 |
| ttx | and then they all appear in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/essex | 21:26 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: ok, I'll leave that up to the *offical* ptl | 21:26 |
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| ttx | ready to be milestoned to a specific one | 21:26 |
| ttx | No other Glance question ? | 21:27 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:27 |
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| ttx | vishy: o/ | 21:27 |
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| ttx | vishy: How is the Essex plan coming up for Nova ? | 21:28 |
| pvo | vishy: you'd mentioned pulling Core together to try to figure out priorities? | 21:28 |
| comstud | +1 | 21:29 |
| vishy | hey | 21:29 |
| vishy | sorry | 21:29 |
| vishy | bunch of people just showed up in the office | 21:29 |
| vishy | so I haven't made a huge amount of progress since friday since I took yesterday off | 21:29 |
| vishy | i'm trying to collect all of the plans here: http::etherpad.openstack.org/essex | 21:30 |
| vishy | and convert relevent ones into blueprints | 21:31 |
| ttx | vishy: fwiw I filed the rootwrapper and targeted to Essex already. | 21:31 |
| vishy | so if anyone has items to add, I could use some help | 21:31 |
| ttx | feel free to unset the series goal if you don't want it | 21:31 |
| patelna | @Vishy - is there a plan to open up a branch for fixes to D4? | 21:31 |
| vishy | ttx: yes I was just looking over the existing blueprints filed and trying to map them | 21:31 |
| vishy | patelna: no, there is a separate group working on that | 21:32 |
| ttx | Daviey: any news on the sru group setup ? | 21:32 |
| patelna | pointers to that team??? | 21:32 |
| PhilDay | I added my two etherpads to the wiki , and was planning to supply blueprints to go with them (VM State Managment and Nova Image Cache Management) | 21:32 |
| vishy | i'm not sure where it is going to live yet | 21:32 |
| ttx | patelna: they should send an email to ask people to join the group. Probably this week | 21:32 |
| patelna | Got it...thanks | 21:33 |
| ttx | patelna: group does not exist yet afaik | 21:33 |
| ttx | patelna: ping Daviey on IRC during European office hours | 21:33 |
| meng-hp | @ttx who is PTL for D4 maintenance group? | 21:33 |
| patelna | k... | 21:33 |
| vishy | I'd like to organize a meeting for nova-core to prioritize and target blueprints | 21:34 |
| ttx | meng-hp: no PTL, a workgroup will equally handle it | 21:34 |
| vishy | pvo: any preference for timing for that? | 21:34 |
| pvo | not tuesdays. : ) | 21:34 |
| pvo | other than that, no | 21:34 |
| pvo | soonish, obviously | 21:35 |
| vishy | Thursday maybe? | 21:35 |
| ttx | yes, would be good. | 21:35 |
| pvo | definitely maybe | 21:35 |
| ttx | <-- not nova-core :) | 21:35 |
| pvo | afternoon is clear | 21:35 |
| vishy | I will try for thursday at this time. I will send out a message to the ml today | 21:35 |
| pvo | great | 21:35 |
| ttx | vishy: anything else ? | 21:36 |
| glenc | <-- not nova-core :) | 21:36 |
| * Vek suggests #action'ing that | 21:36 | |
| ttx | #action vishy to invite nova-core for a planning discussion | 21:36 |
| ttx | Vek: on my way | 21:36 |
| markmc | ttx, I'll have a first cut proposal on the stable branch tomorrow | 21:36 |
| vishy | meanwhile if anyone has anything to add regarding blueprints add them to the blueprints page above | 21:36 |
| ttx | markmc: cool ! I expect Dave to be a bit busy this week. | 21:37 |
| ttx | Questions on Nova ? | 21:37 |
| ttx | #topic Dashboard status | 21:37 |
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| ttx | devcamcar: o/ | 21:38 |
| ttx | Did you change the name, btw ? | 21:38 |
| ttx | or rather, did you select a cool code name ? | 21:38 |
| devcamcar | ttx: we didn't get to do the lightning talk for the naming ceremony | 21:38 |
| devcamcar | we'll be taking it to the list for a final decision this week | 21:38 |
| ttx | ack | 21:38 |
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| devcamcar | we now have a diablo friendly branch available on git | 21:39 |
| ttx | #info We are after the Design Summit, so now the first step is to get your feature plan filed as Launchpad blueprints, and set the "Series goal" to Essex | 21:39 |
| vishy | #info collecting plans/blueprints for nova on http://etherpad.openstack.org/essex | 21:39 |
| vishy | #action vishy to schedule nova blueprint prioritizing meeting for Thursday and send an email to the list | 21:39 |
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| devcamcar | i'll be adding blueprints from the essex roadmap discussion this week as well | 21:39 |
| ttx | devcamcar: In the end that should give you a nice subset of blueprints at: | 21:39 |
| ttx | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard/essex | 21:39 |
| devcamcar | ttx: yep | 21:39 |
| ttx | (All members of ~dashboard-drivers are able to confirm the series goal) | 21:40 |
| ttx | devcamcar: I'll also need you to set the "Maintainer" at https://launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard to ~openstack-admins | 21:40 |
| ttx | should avoid having to add extra people to ~dashboard-drivers for admin reasons | 21:40 |
| devcamcar | will do | 21:40 |
| ttx | #action devcamcar to set "Maintainer" at https://launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard to ~openstack-admins | 21:40 |
| ttx | that's all I had. Is it reasonable to try to get an Essex plan to present by next week meeting ? | 21:41 |
| devcamcar | yes i'll have it | 21:41 |
| ttx | devcamcar: anything else on your mind ? | 21:41 |
| ttx | all: Questions on Dashboard ? | 21:41 |
| devcamcar | not today! mostly just admin stuff | 21:42 |
| ttx | zns: around now ? | 21:42 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated project news | 21:43 |
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| anotherjesse | ttx: I can give a broad summary of the summit stuff if not | 21:43 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: ok, will do after that topic. Thanks | 21:43 |
| ttx | danwent: news ? | 21:43 |
| danwent | hi | 21:43 |
| danwent | slides, etherpads, notes from netstack sessions at the summit are at: http://wiki.openstack.org/NetstackEssexSummit | 21:43 |
| ttx | danwent: when do you push other projects to join you in incubation ? You're a bit lonely :P | 21:43 |
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| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/NetstackEssexSummit | 21:44 |
| danwent | #info based on discussions at summit, donabe will no longer be handled within netstack. debo sent email to list about scheduling separate donabe meetings | 21:44 |
| danwent | ttx: i'll just have to talk with myself :) | 21:44 |
| ttx | for some reason the network guys had a working network and could use etherpad. | 21:44 |
| danwent | other than that, we had an unconference session to identify priorities, will be writing up blueprints this week. | 21:44 |
| Vek | haha :) | 21:44 |
| tr3buchet | that's lucky | 21:45 |
| danwent | there's no nestack meeting today…. just write blueprints | 21:45 |
| * medberry guesses network guys had a 3G laptop | 21:45 | |
| danwent | haha, we bring our networks with us :) | 21:45 |
| medberry | or 4g | 21:45 |
| danwent | that is all | 21:45 |
| danwent | any questions? | 21:45 |
| ttx | danwent: nice summary page | 21:45 |
| danwent | ttx: thanks | 21:45 |
| ttx | danwent: would be great if all track leads had such a page, but that sounds a bit unfair to vishy. | 21:46 |
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| danwent | yes, i had it pretty easy | 21:46 |
| ttx | ok, back to keystone | 21:46 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:46 |
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| ttx | anotherjesse: quick design summit summary ? | 21:46 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: we had several sessions on the auth protocol - the major open question is whether we do: | 21:47 |
| anotherjesse | scoping by more than just a tenant | 21:47 |
| anotherjesse | more capabilities into the identity service or not | 21:48 |
| anotherjesse | we had good discussions from folks at hp and other locations - we will be talking about scope of keystone in essex on the mailing list | 21:48 |
| anotherjesse | but try to nail down the api very early in the cycle | 21:49 |
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| patelna | that's good Jesse... | 21:49 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: so the essex plans are not settled yet, right, still needs a bit more discussion ? | 21:49 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: that is correct | 21:49 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: yes, I'd like to freeze the APi by E3 | 21:49 |
| ttx | to avoid any bad surprise | 21:49 |
| ttx | even if that means having a keystone RC early and open F for keystone earlyt | 21:50 |
| ttx | compared to everyone else | 21:50 |
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| ttx | anotherjesse: did you have anything else ? | 21:51 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: good for now - if there are any questions feel free to ask here or in dev | 21:51 |
| ttx | ok then | 21:51 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:51 |
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| bcwaldon | question! | 21:52 |
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| bcwaldon | I mean comment! | 21:52 |
| bcwaldon | I wanted to bring to everyone's attention the email I sent to the list proposing the removal of OSAPI v1.0 from Nova. I think it's a really important decision we need to make and I want as many people involved as possible. In favor of not wasting anybody's time here, if anybody does have any comments, please share them on the mailing list. | 21:52 |
| ziyadb | I might as well ask what would be a great starting place for a new contributor, myself. | 21:52 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: do you think you can reach consensus, or does it look like the sort of discussion we should have had last week ? | 21:53 |
| * ttx admits not having read the whole thread | 21:53 | |
| anotherjesse | ziyadb: I think getting everything running and working on low hanging fruit is good for getting started … we hope to be finished with a script that helps with that (devstack) and email the list tomorrow | 21:53 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I'm referring to a second email. The conventions email is a separate discussion | 21:53 |
| anotherjesse | ziyadb: and there is a "low hanging fruit" tag in the bug list | 21:53 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: we can definitely reach consensus around removal ov v1.0 | 21:54 |
| medberry | anotherjesse, is devstack.org broken atm? | 21:54 |
| bcwaldon | medberry: it's up for me | 21:54 |
| anotherjesse | medberry: ask in #dev | 21:54 |
| anotherjesse | it is github | 21:54 |
| ziyadb | anotherjesse: excellent, I'll start there. Although I must comment, a "getting started" page for new devs, aside from that which includes information regarding joining projects and signing the CLA, would be great. | 21:55 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: is that something you or stef can tackle? | 21:55 |
| anotherjesse | ziyadb: ahh, that is on the wiki I think - one sec | 21:55 |
| westmaas | anotherjesse: #dev? did you mean a diff channel? | 21:56 |
| anotherjesse | ziyadb: the top right corner of http://wiki.openstack.org/ talks about contributing, ... | 21:56 |
| ziyadb | and I'm not sure how the dev ecosystem is, would I for instance be able to work with other individual contributors to contribute a particular feature in an ad-hoc fashion? | 21:56 |
| anotherjesse | westmaas: sorry, meant #openstack-dev | 21:56 |
| ziyadb | anotherjesse: thanks, I'll have a look. | 21:56 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: not sure how we can help, the discussion seems to stay on track. Do you mean it needs outsiders to sum it up and help it making progress ? | 21:57 |
| glenc | #action someone needs to update the "How to Contribute" page; it's a bit out of date | 21:57 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: sorry, I was referring to ziyadb's request for a jumping off point on the wiki | 21:57 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: ignore me ;) | 21:57 |
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| ttx | glenc: I'll take it | 21:57 |
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| ttx | #action ttx to update the "How to Contribute" page | 21:58 |
| ttx | ok then, I think I filled my bag of TODOs for the week. | 21:58 |
| ziyadb | ah, I suppose I'll start with the low hanging fruit and work my way up to triaged bugs. | 21:58 |
| ziyadb | thanks for the information. | 21:58 |
| ttx | ziyadb: I'll try to update the page -- if you have any doubt, ping me | 21:59 |
| anotherjesse | #action add dashboard & keystone to wiki.openstack.org overview | 21:59 |
| ttx | the wiki definitely needs some love | 21:59 |
| ziyadb | ttx: as I will, thanks. | 21:59 |
| anotherjesse | lots of change in essex - probably a lot of things need updated :) | 21:59 |
| anotherjesse | err - diablo | 21:59 |
| ttx | ok, let's close it and leave the room for the netstack folks | 21:59 |
| Vek | well, same will be true of essex, I'm sure. | 21:59 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 11 22:00:01 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-10-11-21.02.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-10-11-21.02.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-10-11-21.02.log.html | 22:00 |
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| ttx | Thanks everyone ! danwent: room is yours | 22:00 |
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| ziyadb | uh oh, no low hanging fruit. https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack/+bugs?orderby=-importance&field.status:list=NEW&field.status:list=CONFIRMED&field.status:list=TRIAGED&field.tag=low-hanging-fruit | 22:00 |
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| ttx | ziyadb: i'll make sure that list is not empty. | 22:00 |
| danwent | ttx: thanks, actually, there's not netstack meeting today, but thanks anyway :) | 22:00 |
| soren | 21:45 < danwent> there's no nestack meeting today…. just write blueprints | 22:00 |
| ttx | what! | 22:00 |
| danwent | yeah, we're slackers | 22:01 |
| ttx | You just ruined my perfect timing | 22:01 |
| ttx | We could have continued to list all the outdated wiki pages. | 22:01 |
| danwent | sorry to disappoint. I can spin up the meetbot just for kicks if it makes you feel better ;) | 22:01 |
| medberry | the timing is blown now, you'll never get that minute back. | 22:01 |
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| ziyadb | trttthanks. | 22:02 |
| ziyadb | err, ttx | 22:02 |
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| rmk | Doesn't seem like it's possible to be explicit about which zone you want to boot an instance into. | 23:04 |
| rmk | Is that correct? | 23:04 |
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