Tuesday, 2019-03-12

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priteau#startmeeting blazar09:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 12 09:03:23 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:03
priteauHello. Sorry for the delay.09:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:03
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priteau#startmeeting blazar09:03
openstackpriteau: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.09:03
priteau#topic Roll call09:03
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priteauNo one today?09:05
bertys_o/09:05
priteauHi bertys_09:05
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priteauI can see Masahito and Tetsuro were active on Gerrit just recently09:06
bertys_okay, let's wait few more minutes09:06
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masahitoo/09:07
masahitosorry to be late09:07
priteauHi masahito09:07
priteauWe're waiting for Tetsuro as well09:07
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priteauHi tetsuro09:08
tetsuroHi09:08
tetsurosorry, I gotta go today.09:08
priteauNo problem. We'll let you know if there are action items for you.09:09
tetsuroThanks.09:09
tetsuroSee you.09:10
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priteauAgenda for today09:10
priteau1. Denver Summit Project Update09:10
priteau2. Stein release09:10
priteau3. Train PTL election09:10
priteau4. AOB09:11
priteau#topic Denver Summit Project Update09:11
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priteauI've sent confirmation that both tetsuro and bertys_ are registered for the summit09:11
priteauI think we can assume that the project update slot is accepted09:12
priteauI'll start a slides template and circulate it.09:12
priteau#action priteau will start a slides template for the Project Update09:13
priteauWe may want to focus on the Stein release for now, and work on the slides in April.09:13
bertys_+109:14
masahito+109:14
priteauGood, let's talk about Stein then :-)09:14
priteau#topic Stein release09:14
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priteauReminder about the Stein release schedule09:14
priteau#topic https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html09:15
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priteauSorry09:15
priteau#topic Stein release09:15
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priteau#link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html09:15
priteauRC1 is Mar 18 - Mar 2209:15
priteauFinal RCs Apr 01 - Apr 0509:15
priteauStein release Apr 08 - Apr 1209:15
priteauWe're past feature freeze now, but we can make exceptions.09:16
priteauI think we should finish merging the affinity support from Tetsuro and the floating IP reservation from Masahito.09:16
masahitoSorry for slow reviewing and update.09:17
priteauI see you updated the spec, thank you!09:18
priteauAre there still pending comments on the spec?09:19
masahitoNothing.09:19
masahitoOne point I want to talk you is09:20
masahitoThe current fip reservation's response body doesn't show the reserved FIPs.09:20
masahitoIt means an user doesn't find out the real reserved floating ip addresses until the reservation starts.09:21
priteauTrue, it could be useful to know before the reservation starts.09:22
priteauWe can add another field in the response09:23
priteau`allocated_floatingips`09:23
priteauWould it contain UUIDs or IP addresses?09:23
masahitoWhat's the UUID? I prefer IP addresses.09:24
priteauThe ID you find when you do a `floating ip list`09:24
masahitoThe API is admin API in default.09:25
priteauActually I see you can do `floating ip show <ip-address>`, so that would be fine as well09:26
priteauDo you think you could update spec and code to add this field?09:27
masahitoah, the `floating ip show` is not the Blazar's floating ip list API, but Neutron's CLI, is it?09:27
masahitookay09:27
priteauYes, I am talking about Neutron (OSC client)09:28
priteauSorry for the misunderstanding.09:28
priteauThe advantage of showing the actual IP address is that it will match the `required_floatingips` field09:30
masahitonp. The ID is assigned by Neutron when it creates the floating IP. So Blazar can't manage the ID before the reservation starts.09:30
priteauGood catch :-)09:31
priteauIt's settled then. When do you think you could update the spec and patches?09:31
masahitoI will update the spec tomorrow and the patches in this week.09:31
masahitoI don't have much tasks to do in this week :-)09:32
priteauHow nice :P09:32
priteauAnything else to discuss on this topic?09:34
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priteauLet's aim to merge this code during by the end of the week, and then focus on testing and bug fixing.09:36
priteau#topic Train PTL election09:36
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priteauI've submitted my candidacy as PTL for the Train cycle: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/election/plain/candidates/train/Blazar/pierre%40stackhpc.com09:37
priteauIf you will have me :-)09:37
priteauNominations end today at 23:45 UTC09:38
masahitoThanks for running the PTL in Stein cycle.09:38
priteauElections start right after and end next Tuesday09:39
bertys_Thanks for your continuous support09:39
priteauBeing PTL was new to me this cycle, I hope I can do better in Train!09:39
masahitoI'll support you as much as possible :-)09:40
priteauThank you both.09:40
priteau#topic AOB09:41
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priteauAnything else to discuss?09:41
masahitoJust fyi to Blazar team.09:42
masahitoBlazar support in Heat was merged in last week.09:42
masahitohttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/heat-plugin-blazar09:42
priteauI saw it too! Looking forward to trying it09:42
priteauI guess if I deploy a new DevStack it would be available.09:43
masahitoAn user can create Blazar resources in the their stack!09:43
priteauNext cycle we should ask them to add floating IPs09:44
priteauThanks for the info masahito09:45
masahitomy pleasure.09:45
priteauAnything else to share?09:46
priteauIf not let's end the meeting here09:48
priteauThanks for joining. Looking forward to merge the floating IP code!09:48
priteau#endmeeting09:48
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar 12 09:48:23 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)09:48
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masahitothanks, bye09:48
bertys_thanks all, see you09:48
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cmurphy#startmeeting keystone16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 12 16:00:22 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'16:00
vishakhao/16:00
hrybackio/16:00
cmurphylbragstad has a conflicting meeting16:00
cmurphy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda16:01
cmurphyfeel free to add things to the agenda16:01
lbragstado/16:01
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gagehugoo/16:01
knikollao/16:02
ayoungo/16:03
cmurphy#topic announcements16:03
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cmurphy#info RC1 target week next week16:03
cmurphy#link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html release schedule16:03
ayoungHow'r we looking?16:03
cmurphypretty good i think16:03
cmurphyi started going through bugs and marking them for rc116:03
lbragstadcmurphy are there any major ones on your radar after doing that?16:04
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cmurphy#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/stein-rc1 Stein-RC1 bugs16:05
lbragstadnice - i'm happy to see 1819036 made the target16:05
cmurphylbragstad: I targed some of the rbac ones for rc1, especially the ones marked high priority or already in progress16:05
kmallocmmmmmmm16:06
kmalloccooooofffffffffffffeeeee time.16:06
kmallocalso... grump at time change.16:06
cmurphyyeah that one was one i noticed too while working on the access rules token validation16:06
cmurphyalso #1817313 may be one kmalloc could have a look at16:06
lbragstadvalidating tokens twice you mean?16:06
cmurphylbragstad: right16:06
ayoungWouldn't app creds be more important than some of the others/16:07
kmallocis that a LP bug?16:07
ayoung?16:07
kmallocah yeah it is.16:07
lbragstadi remember dolph and i noticed that when we benchmarked keystone in public cloud in 2015, but we never dug into it16:07
cmurphyhmm if it's been like that since 2015 then maybe not a good target for stein16:07
cmurphyor not a top priority anyway16:08
lbragstadit's been around for a while for sure16:08
knikollatrue16:08
kmallocthe double validation is from when we converted over to KSM16:08
lbragstadthe fix *seems* trivial?16:08
kmallocit's really not a huge priority16:08
kmallocespecially with caching.16:08
kmallocbut we can totally land it for stien16:08
kmallocit is not a big deal either way16:08
lbragstadi think tim recording a 23% performance improvement16:09
lbragstadwith caching configured16:09
lbragstadrecorded*16:09
kmallocwith caching properly configured?16:09
lbragstadyeah16:09
kmallocthat seems high.16:09
lbragstadhe has some pretty extensive performance numbers16:09
lbragstadthey're trying to get keystone as fast as possible, including benchmarks under pypy16:09
kmallocif he was using py-spy i found py-spy abnormally increases performance "increase" numbers when used.16:09
kmallocbecause of the heavy intropection.16:10
cmurphyfeel free to change the target on any of these if you don't think it's appropriate for rc1, and help with triaging the rest of the bug list is welcome16:10
kmallocif it was another benchmark it's probably closer to real16:10
lbragstadfwiw - i noticed a similar performance improvement but i based it on raw timing16:10
lbragstad( i didn't use repoze, py-spy, or anything like that)16:10
kmallocthere is crypto activity16:11
kmallocso, sure, like i said, we can totally land it16:11
kmallocmy view is it is fairly trivial change if we pass all testing16:11
lbragstadack - i need to test it, but i was going to attempt that with a mock (shrug)16:12
kmallocre bug 1817313 - this looks like lack of testing bit us.16:12
openstackbug 1817313 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "RBAC Enforcer Programming Error raised for malformed federation protocol request" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181731316:12
kmallocor well lack of voting testing.16:12
kmallocat least16:12
kmallocand that should be a 400 probably not a 404.16:13
ayoungMalformed request16:13
kmallocyeah, it's a bad request afaict16:14
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ayoungAgreed16:14
kmallocalso, using paste as a link in the LP bug is a bad idea, paste may purge the data16:14
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ayoung  /opt/stack/keystone/keystone/server/flask/common.py", line 153, in _assert_rbac_enforcement_called16:14
kmallocwe should ensure to capture the paste data as an attachment.16:14
ayoungon it16:14
kmalloci'll cover that16:14
kmallocayoung: ^ working on it already16:15
cmurphyI'll remember that for next time16:15
cmurphyI just don't like putting logs in the bug description16:15
kmalloccmurphy: totally16:15
ayoungyeah, but next comment is ok, right?16:15
kmalloccmurphy: i wouldn't put it in the description either :)16:15
kmallocayoung: yep.16:16
cmurphyanything else on bugs or questions about the RC?16:16
kmallocthat one should be pretty easy to fix fwiw.16:16
kmallocit's just routing some data to the handler in a way that the name is missing from the put16:17
kmallocit is probably a mis-matched routing rule actually.16:18
ayoungIt looks like a Flaskism16:18
cmurphy#topic Technical Vision/Mission Statement draft16:20
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cmurphy#link https://review.openstack.org/641374 technical vision draft16:20
cmurphythe commit message explains what this is about16:20
cmurphyright now it's mostly a mirror of the TC's technical vision document, but i think we should feel free to change it into whatever format makes sense for the keystone team16:20
cmurphywould like some eyes from the team before I ask the TC for feedback16:21
kmallocyep, https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/api/os_federation.py#L161 that needs to probably be split out into it's own resource16:21
kmalloci'll add it to the bug16:21
cmurphythanks kmalloc16:21
cmurphyany questions about the vision document? we can discuss on the review, mostly just wanted to make it known that it was in progress16:23
kmallocvision doc looked good at the first pass16:23
kmalloci need to do a deeper read16:23
lbragstadi agree16:23
lbragstadabout it looking good16:24
lbragstadi've parsed it a couple times and i don't have anything constructive to add16:24
kmallocbut i didn't see anything that was "OMG wrong" that i would hold up the merge on16:24
cmurphysweet16:24
cmurphydeeper reading will be appreciated16:24
vishakhaYes it is a good read. Thanks cmurphy for it.16:25
cmurphy:)16:25
cmurphy#topic RBAC work16:26
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cmurphy#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/003552.html16:26
cmurphylbragstad: floor is yours16:26
lbragstadok - this will be quick16:26
lbragstadbut last week we talked about this in the meeting16:26
lbragstadbut we didn't really have an exact bead on where things were with all the bugs/work we have in flight for scope types and reader role work16:26
lbragstadthat email is an attempt at sharing that16:27
lbragstadi think it's safe to assume that we're not going to get all scope types and default role work done in stein :(16:27
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lbragstadso - i'm curious if people want to weigh in on what we should prioritize, if anything, for the next two weeks for reader role and scope types work16:28
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cmurphylooking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=system-scope it's interesting that they're all marked high priority except for two?16:29
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lbragstadyeah... that could probably be adjusted16:30
vishakhaI have started on grant API, and role_assignment is in mid-way due to some tempest test cases failing16:30
lbragstadi was probably a little over zealous in marking priority for those16:30
cmurphylbragstad: you came to an agreement with gmann that will let us move forward on some of them? (was it domain reader?)16:31
lbragstadyeah - i can fill people in there16:31
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lbragstadwe were having a whole bunch of issues with tempest and domain reader functionality for projects16:32
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/624218/816:32
lbragstad^ that patch is where we start incorporating domain default roles16:32
lbragstadthe problem is due to a tempest setting that assumes people with domain role assignments are actually system/cloud administrators16:32
lbragstadthe tempest test was creating projects in a domain that the domain admin didn't have authorization on, but the test asserts that user can list all projects in that domain, even though they don't have any authorization there16:33
lbragstadwhich, i assume we can agree that isn't what we want16:34
lbragstadso gmann put up a patch to tempest that corrects the test cases to use the proper domain, instead of creating a new domain https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642102/16:34
lbragstadso it updates things to work with domain-scope, the way we (in keystone) expect domain scope to work16:35
lbragstad^ that fix is specific to project resource tests in tempest16:35
lbragstadbut we will likely have to take a very similar approach to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623319/7 passing16:35
cmurphysounds good16:38
cmurphypersonally I'll prioritize reviewing and merging the things that are already in progress, i think that's easily achievable16:38
lbragstad++16:39
lbragstadi agree16:39
lbragstadi think it would be amazing if we could get projects and users done16:39
cmurphyi think it's also not unreasonable to get these four that aren't started yet done https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=system-scope16:39
cmurphybut https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?field.tag=default-roles may be a bit more work than we can manage16:40
vishakhathanks lbragstad cmurphy16:40
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lbragstadthe default roles work impacts every api, where as scope work is specific to a few areas16:40
lbragstadso - i'm happy to punt limits scope work until Train16:41
lbragstadpeople aren't using it yet, and it would be nice to get oslo.policy support for that weird edge case we hit16:41
lbragstadbut i'll defer to whatever the team wants to do16:41
cmurphywfm16:41
cmurphy#agreed prioritize reviewing and merging in-progress system scope and reader role work16:43
cmurphy#agreed punt limits scope work till Train16:43
cmurphyanything else on this topic?16:43
lbragstadif anyone has questions or wants to divvy up work, let me know16:43
* lbragstad is done16:44
cmurphy#topic reviews16:45
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cmurphyany other reviews people want eyes on?16:45
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cmurphy#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638563/ scope documentation for devs16:46
cmurphyfrom lbragstad ^16:46
cmurphyI don't have anything to call out16:48
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lbragstadpeople could throw suggestions for testing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/641499/ if they want16:48
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cmurphy#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/641499/ validating tokens only once16:49
cmurphy#topic open discussion16:50
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cmurphyfloor is open16:51
lbragstadwhen do we want to start formalizing the PTG schedule?16:52
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cmurphy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-keystone-forum-sessions forum/ptg topic brainstorm16:52
cmurphyprobably in the next couple of weeks i guess16:53
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kmalloci need to book a flight... or plan to drive out to the PTG.16:53
cmurphyi still need to do that too16:53
lbragstadi'm booking the marathon week special16:53
lbragstadi get in on the 27th and leaving the following saturday16:53
cmurphyi am going to be toast by the end16:54
kmallocdepending on when the talk we're giving is...16:54
kmalloci might skip the first part of the summit.16:54
* cmurphy will be breaking new barriers in caffeine consumption16:54
vishakhalol16:54
kmalloccmurphy: should we all chip in to pre-ship a couple extra flats of the monster for you?16:55
cmurphy;)16:55
lbragstadlol16:55
cmurphybtw please keep adding to the ptg topic brainstorm if there are things you want to talk about16:55
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lbragstadalso - cross-project sessions might be tough to schedule16:56
lbragstadjust because we have less time16:56
cmurphyyeah16:56
* lbragstad thinks divide and conquer is going to be the name of the game this time16:57
kmallocFWIW, I'm really not looking forward to the week-long thing16:57
cmurphylbragstad: how many cross-project topics do you have in mind that aren't already forum sessions?16:57
lbragstadwell - that's a good question16:58
lbragstadsome seems like they could use both?16:58
lbragstadi mean, traditionally, we have forum sessions to tailor the content towards the user community and operators16:58
cmurphyi sorta feel like with the condensed time we're gonna have to limit cross-project things to forum sessions16:58
cmurphy1 minute warning16:59
lbragstadthe PTG are so developer specific, i fear consolidating both groups into a forum session is going to overrun content16:59
cmurphyfair16:59
lbragstad(e.g., we'll focus on design things, or we'll focus on operator communication)16:59
cmurphydefinitely the time with the qa team will be worth having as a ptg session rather than forum session17:00
cmurphyanyways17:00
lbragstad++17:00
cmurphy#endmeeting17:00
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lbragstadthanks for chairing cmurphy!17:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-03-12-16.00.log.html17:00
cmurphythanks everyone17:00
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