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| moshele | #startmeeting sriov | 13:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 1 13:04:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:04 |
| moshele | hi | 13:04 |
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| edand | hi | 13:05 |
| wznoinsk | hi | 13:05 |
| lennyb | hi | 13:05 |
| moshele | let wait for some more pepole | 13:05 |
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| moshele | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:07 | |
| moshele | so lennyb is woking on the SR-IOV multi-node CI | 13:07 |
| moshele | we need to merged this tempest patches migration test - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339230/ and migration revert test - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348498/ | 13:08 |
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| moshele | wznoinsk: any update regarding NFV CI ? | 13:08 |
| lennyb | yep, they pass manual check, I will comment on gerrit dhortly | 13:08 |
| lbeliveau | hi, sorry I'm late | 13:08 |
| wznoinsk | yes, I have PCI passthru CI in our lab sandboxing | 13:08 |
| wznoinsk | (non-voting): samples - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387485/4, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387836/25 | 13:09 |
| moshele | ok cool | 13:09 |
| wznoinsk | "tempest-dsbaremetal-pcipassthrough-xenial" job under http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova | 13:10 |
| moshele | when do you think it will be ready? | 13:10 |
| lbeliveau | this is with multi nodes ? | 13:10 |
| moshele | no it just same group managing all of intel CI, right? | 13:10 |
| wznoinsk | this is single node, for now I've 1:1 moved from other team in Intel to our lab | 13:10 |
| wznoinsk | multinode of PCI passthru CI (if at all) we may do it later, not sure about good testing scanario for this | 13:11 |
| wznoinsk | would you have any sugestions? | 13:12 |
| lbeliveau | migration is one | 13:12 |
| moshele | how about mult-node nfv for NUMA migration/live migration ? | 13:12 |
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| moshele | yes once lbeliveau patches in tempest will be merged you can ran migration and migration revert | 13:13 |
| wznoinsk | moshele, that's done, job: tempest-dsvm-multinode-ovsdpdk-nfv-networking-xenial (no pci passthru here if that's what you're after) | 13:13 |
| wznoinsk | moshele, do you have a link again? | 13:13 |
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| moshele | wznoinsk: what link? | 13:14 |
| moshele | for patches? | 13:14 |
| wznoinsk | sorry, I think I have it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348498/ | 13:14 |
| lbeliveau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/339230 | 13:14 |
| moshele | yes | 13:14 |
| lbeliveau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348498 | 13:14 |
| wznoinsk | thanks | 13:15 |
| lbeliveau | there was no cores on qa irc yesterday, need to ping them | 13:15 |
| moshele | wznoinsk can you check if migration test passes for NUMA? and update us | 13:15 |
| wznoinsk | moshele the job "tempest-dsvm-multinode-ovsdpdk-nfv-networking-xenial" has numa_nodes spec in the flavor and it's doing multinode live mgiration | 13:16 |
| moshele | live migration is not the same as cold migration. It is different code path | 13:17 |
| wznoinsk | http://intel-openstack-ci-logs.ovh/36/387836/25/check/tempest-dsvm-multinode-ovsdpdk-nfv-networking-xenial/3bd89ed/testr_results.html.gz -> tempest.api.compute.admin.test_live_migration (in green) | 13:17 |
| moshele | we are looking for scenarios testing not api | 13:18 |
| wznoinsk | moshele, yes, cold migration will be used for PCI passhtru multinode as live migration for the same not possible AFAICU | 13:18 |
| moshele | not sure how well it is tested with api | 13:18 |
| wznoinsk | moshele, sure, would you know if someone's working on such scenario test for PCI? | 13:18 |
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| wznoinsk | I take it as it's a task for me then ;-) | 13:19 |
| moshele | so live migration can work with macvtap port (which is the same flow for pci device) | 13:19 |
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| moshele | but we know it is broken see live-mig: Add claims and proper resource tracking - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244489/ | 13:20 |
| wznoinsk | wouldn't macvtap be for PCI devices of type 200 only (network) tho? | 13:20 |
| moshele | I didn't get the question | 13:21 |
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| wznoinsk | I thought macvtap is for networkg devices so more of a SRIOV thing, not general PCI device passthru one | 13:21 |
| moshele | yes, but for the code point of you the share lots of common paths | 13:22 |
| moshele | ok let move the the next topic | 13:22 |
| wznoinsk | ok, I'll educate myself on that then, let's move on | 13:22 |
| moshele | #topic Documentation | 13:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Documentation (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:23 | |
| moshele | lbeliveau: are you planning to work on the Docmement PF Passthrough for nova and neutron ? | 13:23 |
| lbeliveau | yes I could | 13:24 |
| moshele | ok cool | 13:24 |
| moshele | let move on | 13:24 |
| lbeliveau | we'll also have to revise the documentation regarding the neutron sriov conf that are being deprecated | 13:24 |
| moshele | #topic Patches for Subteam Review | 13:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Patches for Subteam Review (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:24 | |
| moshele | see list of patches in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sriov_meeting_agenda Line 29 | 13:25 |
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| moshele | I ask jaypipes to review pci: remove pci device from claims and allocations when freeing it- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369180/ and he added it to his queue | 13:25 |
| moshele | we will need to backport this one | 13:25 |
| moshele | any other important patches? | 13:26 |
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| lbeliveau | this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363884/ | 13:26 |
| lbeliveau | lots of +1 | 13:27 |
| moshele | ok let me update the agneda | 13:27 |
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| moshele | SR-IOV neutron config depreciation/removal | 13:28 |
| moshele | SR-IOV: Remove deprecated supported_pci_vendor_devs option https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391911/ | 13:28 |
| moshele | Deprecate SR-IOV 'physical_device_mappings' config option - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360447/ | 13:28 |
| moshele | for the last want we need to send deprecation mail, will do that this week | 13:28 |
| moshele | right edand? | 13:29 |
| edand | yep | 13:29 |
| moshele | ok so let move one | 13:29 |
| moshele | #topic spec for review | 13:29 |
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| moshele | so we currently we have 3 spec | 13:30 |
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| moshele | see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sriov_meeting_agenda line 49 | 13:30 |
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| moshele | and we have Add spec to enhance PCI passthrough whitelist to support regex is approved and merged | 13:31 |
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| moshele | I request jaypipes to review them. we need to merge them until the spec freeze in 17th this month | 13:32 |
| moshele | anything else you want to talk about? | 13:32 |
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| moshele | #endmeeting | 13:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 1 13:33:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-11-01-13.04.html | 13:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-11-01-13.04.txt | 13:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-11-01-13.04.log.html | 13:33 |
| moshele | thanks everyone | 13:33 |
| lbeliveau | bye | 13:33 |
| wznoinsk | thanks | 13:33 |
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| EmilienM | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 1 14:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic agenda | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | * one off agenda items | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * bugs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * CI | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * Specs | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | * open discussion | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | hello folks! | 14:00 |
| jtomasek | \m/ | 14:00 |
| mwhahaha | hola | 14:00 |
| shadower | heyia | 14:00 |
| akrivoka | hello! o/ | 14:00 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:00 |
| cdearborn | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | o/ | 14:00 |
| adarazs | o/ | 14:00 |
| sshnaidm | o/ | 14:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 14:01 |
| * marios always confused with the timechange... wasn't sure if now or 1 hour | 14:01 | |
| weshay | o/ | 14:01 |
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| panda|pto|PH | o/ (kinda) | 14:01 |
| florianf | o/ | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | I hope you had safe travel back to home! | 14:01 |
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| fultonj | here | 14:01 |
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| EmilienM | #topic off agenda items | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | sshnaidm: hi! | 14:02 |
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| sshnaidm | EmilienM, hi! | 14:02 |
| dprince | hi | 14:02 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, I have 2 questions in off items | 14:03 |
| EmilienM | go ahead | 14:03 |
| sshnaidm | I started POC patch when running quickstart in TripleO CI ovb environment and it seemed working | 14:03 |
| sshnaidm | I'd like to do experimental job with quickstart running there to prov its correctness and stability | 14:04 |
| sshnaidm | (and detect possible problems) | 14:04 |
| sshnaidm | I'd like to ask if there is no objections to have such job in experimental pipeline | 14:04 |
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| * adarazs looks forward to it. | 14:05 | |
| EmilienM | interesting, I'm wondering what path are we taking 1) using tripleo-ci to run quickstart or 2) implement new quickstart jobs in third party CI that deploy ovb | 14:05 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:05 |
| EmilienM | 2) wouldn't use tripleo-ci | 14:05 |
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| adarazs | I'd prefer 1) | 14:06 |
| EmilienM | 1) sounds complex to me | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | as we're going to increase tripleo-ci logic complexity | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381094/ | 14:07 |
| adarazs | if we want to have tripleo-ci be driven by quickstart in some way soon (which I hope we agreed that we do) then it would be a good first step. | 14:07 |
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| sshnaidm | EmilienM, 1) would help also to have CI externally consumable, btw | 14:08 |
| slagle | sshnaidm: can you link to the patch you are referring to? | 14:08 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, anyway, it's experimental job, everybody will look at it and if we hate it - it's always possible to kill it | 14:09 |
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| EmilienM | slagle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381094/ | 14:09 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 14:09 |
| slagle | oh right :) | 14:09 |
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| panda|pto|PH | 2) looks closer to what we're going to do in the end, I wouldn't add an intermediate step. | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | 1) would be a transition to have 2) at the end, iiuc | 14:09 |
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| EmilienM | but anyway, it's an implemenation specific question, that we can talk outside this meeting. | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: +1 for experimental job | 14:10 |
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| sshnaidm | ok, thanks! | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: and wait 1 or 2 week(s) to make sure it's "stable" | 14:10 |
| sshnaidm | sure | 14:11 |
| sshnaidm | ok, then the second question is about moving tripleo-ci from "openstack-infra" to "openstack" | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: in the meantime, could we make progress on using oooq to deploy multinode jobs too? | 14:11 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, yeah, I planned it after ovb is running | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | excellent | 14:12 |
| weshay | bkero, ^ | 14:12 |
| bkero | o/ | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | slagle: did you have thoughts about moving ooo-ci to openstack? I remember you were involved in this | 14:12 |
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| EmilienM | sshnaidm: +1 on my side | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: anything else? | 14:14 |
| sshnaidm | ok, then maybe let's discuss it later in #tripleo | 14:14 |
| sshnaidm | EmilienM, not, that's it, thanks | 14:14 |
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| EmilienM | dtantsur: your turn Sir | 14:14 |
| dtantsur | yep, quick question: are there plans now to deprecate instack-virt-setup? | 14:15 |
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| dtantsur | it's not longer used in CI, and there seem to be a lot of efforts around quickstart | 14:15 |
| dtantsur | finally, we're moving away from pxe_ssh drivers, so instack-virt-setup requires reworking | 14:15 |
| shardy | dtantsur: tripleo-quickstart was always supposed to deprecate it, we've just not quite got to that yet in docs/CI | 14:15 |
| slagle | EmilienM: i think it has more to do with moving to 3rd party | 14:16 |
| shardy | dtantsur: have you looked at what rework will be required for quickstart? | 14:16 |
| slagle | EmilienM: once that is complete, it can probably move | 14:16 |
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| EmilienM | slagle: right, ++ | 14:16 |
| dtantsur | shardy, not yet; but at least quickstart is covered by some CI, unlike tripleo-incubator | 14:16 |
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| shardy | dtantsur: ack, yeah and we ideally don't want to do this work twice | 14:17 |
| slagle | EmilienM: but our multinode jobs won't be 3rd party, so maybe we'd split the repo, i dont entirely know if there is precedence for that | 14:17 |
| shardy | dtantsur: what's the timeline for ironic moving away from pxe_ssh? | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | slagle: mhh interesting, indeed; maybe wait a little more until we figure implementations | 14:17 |
| dtantsur | shardy, no strict timeline, but it's already deprecated. we have full rights to remove it in Ocata after O-1 | 14:18 |
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| EmilienM | slagle: fwiw, puppet openstack CI runs some scripts in openstack namespace... | 14:18 |
| dtantsur | shardy, also we stop covering it with out CI pretty soon | 14:18 |
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| shardy | dtantsur: Ok, so it'd be very good if we could switch docs/CI to oooq before it's removed then ;) | 14:18 |
| dtantsur | true :) | 14:19 |
| shardy | o-1 seems like an ambitious target for that | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | o-2 maybe? | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | o-1 is in 2 weeks | 14:20 |
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| shardy | yeah, I think it'd be better if we could aim for o-2 and ask if Ironic would be willing to delay removing it until then | 14:20 |
| shardy | so our docs etc don't break | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | ++ | 14:20 |
| jrist | late o/ | 14:20 |
| shardy | dtantsur: would that be a reasonable compromise from the Ironic perspective, or are there pressures to remove it really soon? | 14:21 |
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| dtantsur | shardy, we can delay the removal, there is no too much pressue | 14:22 |
| dtantsur | shardy, but the driver is deprecated, will have no CI soon and will only receive critical bug fixes | 14:22 |
| shardy | dtantsur: Ok sounds good | 14:22 |
| shardy | can anyone take an action to follow up on the oooq side to determine the changes needed? | 14:23 |
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| dtantsur | I can provide any help, but I can't do it right this second | 14:23 |
| dtantsur | I know that packaging virtualbmc in RDO is step 0 | 14:23 |
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| shardy | dtantsur: perhaps you could raise a bug against tripleo-quickstart with details of the work you're aware of, then we can figure out who has bandwidth to do it? | 14:24 |
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| dtantsur | shardy, I think I have a tripleo blueprint.. | 14:24 |
| dtantsur | I can raise a bug as well for sure | 14:24 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/switch-to-virtualbmc | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | dtantsur: your bp is enough imho | 14:25 |
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| EmilienM | dtantsur: maybe you can sync with weshay to see who from oooq experts could help there | 14:25 |
| shardy | ack, yeah I didn't realize there was already a BP, thanks | 14:25 |
| panda|pto|PH | weshay: should we add this to the transition etherpad ? | 14:25 |
| * weshay looks | 14:25 | |
| weshay | aye | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | dtantsur: thanks for bringing this topic! | 14:26 |
| weshay | oh this is cool | 14:26 |
| weshay | dtantsur++ | 14:26 |
| dtantsur | no problem :) | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else before we start regular agenda? | 14:26 |
| weshay | panda|pto|PH, I think we can go after that outside of the transition | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | #topic bugs | 14:27 |
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| panda|pto|PH | weshay: ok | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | we are still fixing some bugs that we want backported in stable/newton, I consider them highest prio at this time | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bugs?field.tag=newton-backport-potential | 14:28 |
| marios | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1638003 still an issue for upgrades and updates atm (overcloudrc change)... added a comment at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391201/ | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638003 in tripleo "Stack update causes overcloudrc OS_PASSWORD update and fails overcloud keystone authentication" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ryan Brady (rbrady) | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | I suspect there are more, because I noticed not all team members were doing self triage :( | 14:28 |
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| EmilienM | marios: isn't it addressed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391201/ ? | 14:29 |
| marios | EmilienM: not in my testing (sasha too) | 14:29 |
| marios | EmilienM: so bringing up for visibility.. i needinfod rbrady on the BZ too | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | oh, it's in bug description | 14:30 |
| marios | EmilienM: (the BZ is linked from the launchpad bug) | 14:30 |
| marios | EmilienM: it is in that list you gave anyway i mean the backport bugs | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | his patch seems like failing on CI consistently | 14:30 |
| marios | EmilienM: another one for uprades is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1634897 - still some discussino with pradk on the fix but concerned given the timeframe | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1634897 in tripleo " Upgrade Mitaka to Newton failed with gnocchi using swift backend: ClientException: Authorization Failure. Authorization Failed: Service Unavailable (HTTP 503)" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Pradeep Kilambi (pkilambi) | 14:31 |
| marios | EmilienM: (also in the list as newton backport) | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | don't forget to add milestones | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | ok so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388649/ will be backported when merged | 14:32 |
| EmilienM | marios: thanks! | 14:32 |
| EmilienM | do we have any other outstanding bug? | 14:33 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:34 |
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| EmilienM | so 2 infos: | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | ocata-1 will be released in 2 weeks! | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | also, this week I plan to release a new version of newton, that will contain all our recent backports | 14:34 |
| EmilienM | I might wait for critical bugs (eg: upgrades, etc) to be fixed first | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | any thoughts on release management? | 14:35 |
| shardy | should we perhaps aim to release stable branches around the same time as the ocata milestones? | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | shardy: fyi, I'll be on PTO during ocata-1 release. I'll be online from time to time but not sure I can't send release patch request | 14:36 |
| shardy | IIRC it was mentioned last week and would be a good way to ensure regular releases are made from the stable branches | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | shardy: sounds good to me | 14:36 |
| shardy | EmilienM: I will be around & can help with the ocata release | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | thx | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | ok so | 14:37 |
| shardy | EmilienM: let me know before you go on PTO so we can sync up on the latest status etc | 14:37 |
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| EmilienM | #action EmilienM / shardy to release newton-2 and ocata-1 during Nov 14th week | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | shardy: sure thing. | 14:37 |
| EmilienM | marios: please let us know about upgrade things, and make sure they are all backported | 14:38 |
| EmilienM | #topic CI | 14:38 |
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| marios | EmilienM: ack we are fighting every day :) looking forward to the rest of november | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | this morning, I found out that ovb/ha job is really unstable | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | I haven't filed a bug yet, because i'm still waiting for a CI job now | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | http://logs.openstack.org/64/391064/1/check-tripleo/gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-ovb-ha/2d15c11/console.html#_2016-10-31_10_19_54_304885 | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | that's the error, and it started on October 27th, during a promotion job | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | I suspect a regression in OpenStack | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | but this one has been hard to debug, I haven't seen useful logs in nova/cinder yet | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | if you still see this error today and later, please let me know | 14:40 |
| EmilienM | http://tripleo.org/cistatus.html - ovb/ha is red in most of recent runs :( | 14:41 |
| sshnaidm | I see today a lot of errors like "ClientException: resources.volume1: Gateway Time-out (HTTP 504)" in pingtest stack creating | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | it could be related | 14:41 |
| sshnaidm | I'll look | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | the error I saw was boot from volume not working | 14:41 |
| EmilienM | sshnaidm: let's sync after meeting | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | I have another info | 14:42 |
| sshnaidm | ok | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | slagle: pabelanger just told me we could submit a patch in nodepool to have a new multinode job with 3 nodes | 14:42 |
| jaosorior | sshnaidm, EmilienM I have the feeling that it's a selinux issue, the lack of relevant logs is really confusing | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | jaosorior: I haven't looked audit logs | 14:42 |
| EmilienM | so maybe | 14:43 |
| EmilienM | slagle: do you want to take action and submit it this week? | 14:43 |
| slagle | EmilienM: that's something we've discussed, i know we can do it | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | cool :) | 14:44 |
| slagle | EmilienM: i dont honestly anticipate having time to work on it this week | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | slagle: ok, no problem | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | I'll see if I can submit it | 14:44 |
| EmilienM | #action EmilienM or slagle to submit patch to nodepool to add 3-nodes jobs | 14:45 |
| EmilienM | anything else about CI this week? | 14:45 |
| slagle | i'd like to get this landed: https://review.openstack.org/381286 | 14:45 |
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| slagle | so we can test undercloud upgrades | 14:45 |
| slagle | and move forward with the composable undercloud work | 14:46 |
| slagle | reviews appreciated :) | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | slagle: the job is gate-tripleo-ci-centos-7-undercloud-upgrades-nv, right? | 14:46 |
| slagle | yes | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | cool! | 14:47 |
| slagle | now that the ovb mitaka/liberty jobs are fixed, ovb should pass on that too | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | #action team to review undercloud/upgrade patch https://review.openstack.org/381286 | 14:47 |
| marios | slagle: nice will have a look tomorrow | 14:47 |
| slagle | thanks :) | 14:47 |
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| EmilienM | ok last topic | 14:48 |
| EmilienM | #topic specs | 14:48 |
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| EmilienM | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:48 |
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| marios | i put out a first pass from composable service upgrades discussion, thanks shardy for having a look already https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392116/ | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | if you have time, please review our specs that we discussed at Summit | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | the tripleo/squads policy is ready for review and comments were all addressed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385201/ | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | marios: I was reviewing yours before the meeting. I'll finish today | 14:49 |
| marios | EmilienM: ack thanks appreciate | 14:49 |
| EmilienM | does it sound reasonable to merge Ocata specs before Ocata-1? | 14:50 |
| EmilienM | it gives us 2 weeks | 14:50 |
| EmilienM | I would hate merging specs after doing the actual feature ;-) | 14:51 |
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| shardy | EmilienM: we can try, but historically TripleO spec reviews have been pretty slow | 14:51 |
| marios | EmilienM: well that would be the *right* way to do it but ultimately we may not make it | 14:51 |
| shardy | perhaps this is an opportunity to fix that | 14:51 |
| EmilienM | right, and we might want to improve ourselves on this thing | 14:52 |
| marios | EmilienM: so +1 nice thing to aim for | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | marios: well, maybe we should be a bit more serious in our specs | 14:52 |
| dtantsur | spec reviews are always slow, not only in tripleo :) | 14:52 |
| dtantsur | but it's not a reason not to improve, I agree | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | #action team to review Ocata specs for ocata-1 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | I'll send a note on ML about it | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | any question / remark about specs? | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | #topic open discussion | 14:53 |
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| EmilienM | any question or feedback is welcome now | 14:53 |
| panda|pto|PH | I wanted to add that ovb/ha job has at least one big problem: since redis is unable to start, gnocchi-metricd is eating a lot of CPU, so things may be unstable also for that reason. | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | just FYI I'll be on vacations from Friday night, and then during 2 weeks. I'll have emails & IRC sometimes. | 14:54 |
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| EmilienM | panda|pto|PH: we saw that before | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | panda|pto|PH: there is a launchpad about it iirc | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | panda|pto|PH: talk to pradk and carlos | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | panda|pto|PH: why redis is unable to start? | 14:55 |
| panda|pto|PH | EmilienM:yes, but it's a different problem, we ened a selinux command to let redis open its unix socket | 14:55 |
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| panda|pto|PH | EmilienM: I'm curre;lty discussing this with rhallisay in #rdo | 14:55 |
| EmilienM | cool | 14:56 |
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| EmilienM | panda|pto|PH: please file a launchpad bug if needed, so we can track the work being done here | 14:56 |
| panda|pto|PH | EmilienM: already there | 14:56 |
| EmilienM | do we have anything else for this week? | 14:56 |
| panda|pto|PH | EmilienM: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1637961 | 14:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1637961 in tripleo "periodic HA master job pingtest times out" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Gabriele Cerami (gcerami) | 14:57 |
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| EmilienM | panda|pto|PH: thx | 14:57 |
| EmilienM | well, sounds like we're done | 14:57 |
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| EmilienM | have a great week everyone | 14:58 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 1 14:58:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-01-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-01-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-11-01-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 1 16:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-11-01_1600_UTC Our Agenda | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: containers)" | 16:00 | |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 16:00 |
| strigazi | Spyros Trigazis | 16:00 |
| muralia | murali allada | 16:00 |
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| randallburt | o/ | 16:01 |
| vijendar2 | o/ | 16:01 |
| Drago5 | o/ | 16:01 |
| jvgrant | Jaycen Grant | 16:01 |
| adrian_otto | hello strigazi muralia randallburt vijendar2 Drago5 and jvgrant | 16:01 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 16:02 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Daylight savings time ends in the US on Sunday Nov 6th at 2:00 AM. This will cause our meeting to take place an hour earlier in most local timezones because we track UTC. Check your calendar reminders to make sure they reflect the correct timezone. | 16:02 |
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| strigazi | Could we have calendar for this? | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | every time we have a shift in DST we always have contributors who suffer from scrambled calendars. | 16:03 |
| strigazi | To update automatically? | 16:03 |
| strigazi | The docs team I think has one, I can sk | 16:03 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: I have done that in the past, but that has it's own pitfalls | 16:04 |
| strigazi | s/sk/ask | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | its own | 16:04 |
| strigazi | Can't be set in UTC? | 16:04 |
| strigazi | my docs calendar is correct after the change | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | yes, the solution is to look at what you have in your calendar, and adjust the timezone to UTC | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | and if it does not have that setting you can use GMT | 16:04 |
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| adrian_otto | and it's probably worth taking a quick look to see if that causes a scheduling conflict with your other commitments so you have time to address those. | 16:05 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:05 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any other announcements from team members? | 16:05 |
| adrian_otto | Thanks to all of you who attended the summit, and for those of you who did not, we missed you. | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 16:06 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) adrian_otto to email Magnum/Kuryr teams with details about joint meetup plans prior to summit. Status: COMPLETE | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | 2) strigazi to create a magnum-specs repo | 16:06 |
| strigazi | It's happening https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391770/ | 16:06 |
| adrian_otto | Status: COMPLETE | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | thanks strigazi | 16:07 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:07 |
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| strigazi | not merged yet, I'll notify you all as soon as it is | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | Should we have a team meeting on Nov 22, or skip that date due to US holidays (Thanksgiving, Nov 24)? | 16:07 |
| strigazi | I can't make it | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | the reason for my question is that it's very common for those in the US to take that week off of work to travel for the holiday | 16:07 |
| adrian_otto | so if several of us would be absent, it might make sense to skip it | 16:08 |
| strigazi | But if it's only me, I'm ok | 16:08 |
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| jvgrant | probably a good idea. attendance will be lite | 16:08 |
| Drago | Do we have quorum rules? | 16:08 |
| * randallburt votes to skip it | 16:08 | |
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| adrian_otto | no, we don't have a quorum rule. Whether we hold a meeting is the prerogative of the PTL. | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, so I have two interested in a skip. | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | anyone feel strongly that we should hold it that week? | 16:09 |
| vijendar_ | skip +1 | 16:09 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:09 |
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| adrian_otto | #agreed we will not meet on 2016-11-22 | 16:10 |
| randallburt | request general review of the idea proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389835. Should have an update with proposed class changes today. | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to mark our agenda such that the 2016-11-22 meeting will be planned as cancelled. | 16:10 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks randallburt for proposing that | 16:11 |
| randallburt | np | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | I'll definitely review that today | 16:11 |
| randallburt | thanks! | 16:11 |
| strigazi | Why this requires a new spec and not an update in the previous one? It seems to me like an involving work on the same subject | 16:11 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: best practice is not to modify a spec after implementation unless it would confuse our community | 16:12 |
| strigazi | The bay-drivers spec only implies heat as default, doesn't explicitely say use only heat | 16:12 |
| randallburt | strigazi: I was unaware of the previous one. IIRC, though the other one extends lifecycle methods while this encapsulates existing ones | 16:12 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:12 |
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| randallburt | strigazi: but the implementation is highly coupled to Heat and Heat "bleeds" through to a *lot* of other places | 16:12 |
| adrian_otto | randallburt: let's add a blueprint and link it in the commit message. | 16:13 |
| strigazi | I'm not against it just clarifying | 16:13 |
| randallburt | strigazi: k | 16:13 |
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| randallburt | adrian_otto: | 16:13 |
| randallburt | will do | 16:13 |
| randallburt | hopefully I can spec this such that untangling won't be terribly difficult | 16:14 |
| adrian_otto | okay, this week and next week, I'd like contributors who plan to complete new features to raise their blueprints for team review | 16:14 |
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| adrian_otto | so I can be sure that we have targeted them against the next release | 16:14 |
| strigazi | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades | 16:15 |
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| strigazi | #link https://review.openstack.org/392193 | 16:16 |
| strigazi | spec ^^ | 16:16 |
| strigazi | it's WIP | 16:16 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, I linked the spec to the BP for you | 16:16 |
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| vijenda__ | I have submitted a spec/patch for review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-admin-api https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391537/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391301/ | 16:17 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades is now targeted to ocata-3. | 16:18 |
| strigazi | Thanks | 16:18 |
| Drago | Is this meeting going to go over news from the summit for those unable to attend? | 16:18 |
| strigazi | Sorry, just remembered | 16:18 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: yes, we can cover that | 16:19 |
| strigazi | I ping the suse guys, and they want to add a third party CI for their suse k8s driver | 16:19 |
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| adrian_otto | vijenda__: is completion of the Admin API a short/medium/long term objective? | 16:21 |
| adrian_otto | November, December, or January? | 16:21 |
| vijendar1 | adrian_otto: it depends on what are all the features we wanted to implement in admin api | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: that would be great | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | vijendar1: let's give it our best guess for now, and we can adjust if needed | 16:22 |
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| vijendar1 | adrian_otto: December | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:22 |
| adrian_otto | vijendar1: that's now targeted for ocata-2. | 16:23 |
| vijendar1 | adrian_otto: ok. thanks | 16:23 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, before we proceed to summit review, are there any more BP's to review? | 16:23 |
| strigazi | Is the osc bp accepted for ocata? | 16:24 |
| jvgrant | Drago: will the nodegroup additions we discussed yesterday be new blueprints or just part of the same one? | 16:24 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: have a link to that tone handy? | 16:24 |
| Drago | jvgrant: I think separate, with separate specs | 16:24 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto, looking | 16:25 |
| Drago | jvgrant: But that falls under the adding of blueprints in the next couple weeks that adrian_otto mentioned | 16:25 |
| strigazi | Drago jvgrant I added some notes on the versioning | 16:25 |
| jvgrant | Drago: ok | 16:25 |
| strigazi | I can add a spec too | 16:25 |
| Drago | strigazi, jvgrant: Can we talk about strigazi's spec after? | 16:26 |
| jvgrant | sure | 16:26 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/openstackclient-support | 16:26 |
| strigazi | Drago jvgrant OK | 16:26 |
| strigazi | We can ask the team now for the general direction and add details later today | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | that blueprint is a perfect example of what not to do | 16:27 |
| * adrian_otto fixing it. | 16:27 | |
| adrian_otto | one morment | 16:27 |
| strigazi | adrian_otto the OSC? | 16:27 |
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| adrian_otto | yeah, that's a mess | 16:27 |
| adrian_otto | ok, done. | 16:28 |
| strigazi | Drago jvgrant, CT versions are a dependncy for upgrades and upgrades is my #1 priority | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | #topic OpenStack Summit Restrospective | 16:29 |
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| Drago | strigazi: Good to know | 16:29 |
| strigazi | I can start on this one and work in parallel with nodegroups | 16:29 |
| adrian_otto | so, last week was the OpenStack summit. All of the general sessions were recorded and are available here for review: | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/summits/show/7 Summit Videos | 16:30 |
| adrian_otto | I explained Magnum on stage with Jonathan Bryce in the day-2 keynote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmub7D6JS24 along with the PTLs from Kolla and Kuryr | 16:32 |
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| adrian_otto | Drago and I gave a Magnum+OpenStack Ansible workshop | 16:32 |
| adrian_otto | with ~100 attendees | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | that was not recorded, and neither were the Design Summit Sessions, of which we had several. | 16:33 |
| Drago | The OpenSUSE guys gave a Magnum+k8s talk and it was packed. | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | the key topics were the NextGen (NodeGroup) and related changes to Magnum | 16:33 |
| adrian_otto | tango and winnie from IBM gave a talk with strigazi and Ricardo from CERN on magnum scalability | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | let's share a link to each of these | 16:34 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/video/toward-10000-containers-on-openstack Toward 10,000 Containers on OpenStack | 16:35 |
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| Drago | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/video/openstack-and-magnum-kubernetes-as-a-service-for-everyone OpenSUSE's Magnum+k8s talk | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | yep! | 16:36 |
| adrian_otto | another key topic in the design summit was the topic of lifecycle operations and upgrades, where we got some valuable community input | 16:37 |
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| adrian_otto | we had a joint session with the Kuryr team, and another with the Keystone team | 16:37 |
| adrian_otto | on the networking side, there was strong affirmation of the use case of connecting VMs and Containers together on common private neutron networks. | 16:38 |
| Drago | +1 | 16:39 |
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| adrian_otto | we did reach a consensus in our work room sessions about our intended policy for glance image builds | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | we decided to do our best to build new images for each new COE release as they are announced so the "current" release of each is consistently supported in Mangum | 16:41 |
| adrian_otto | we will offer documentation for cloud operators to build their own images if they prefer to use upstream linux distro packaging instead of code directly from the COE community teams. | 16:42 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi volunteered to kick off the required build on these occasions. | 16:42 |
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| randallburt | nice. image building is a pain. | 16:42 |
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| adrian_otto | we can make that process pretty smooth, we think | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | and we think it can be automated to a large extent | 16:43 |
| randallburt | yep | 16:43 |
| strigazi | if it's not automated it's not done :) | 16:43 |
| randallburt | so true | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | so we'll work with strigazi to prove that hunch | 16:44 |
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| randallburt | problem is getting the upstream distros to keep up | 16:44 |
| adrian_otto | any other key takeaways from the summit that team members would like to share? | 16:44 |
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| strigazi | We'll try to offer ubuntu cluster drivers too | 16:44 |
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| strigazi | rg For users with contracts with canonical | 16:45 |
| strigazi | eg For users with contracts with canonical | 16:45 |
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| Drago | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Ocata/Etherpads#Magnum Magnum etherpads from the summit | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | I also did some thinking about the inclusion criteria for new drivers. | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | as long as the driver is known to work with at least one production use case, has at least one maintainer committed to keeping it updated, and has a third party CI to verify it works, then we can allow it in trunk. | 16:46 |
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| adrian_otto | otherwise, they can live in contrib with a support caveat statement. | 16:46 |
| strigazi | sounds reasonable | 16:47 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, let's proceed to open discussion... unless there are questions or concerns about the above? | 16:48 |
| strigazi | A question, | 16:48 |
| strigazi | we won't remove the current CIs for swarm, k8s, mesos, and ironic, right? | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | I did not mention that the day 1 keynote had a magnum demo in it | 16:49 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://www.openstack.org/videos/video/openstack-for-the-work-that-matters-1 Keynote with Magnum demo | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | strigazi: we should be open to moving driver testing to third party CI if they require features that openstack CI does not support (ie: multi-node) | 16:50 |
| adrian_otto | but we must not take a step backward in either unit testing or functional testing. | 16:51 |
| strigazi | makes sense | 16:51 |
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| adrian_otto | ok | 16:51 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 16:51 |
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| yatin | I wish to work on following bp's and i need direction on them so i can proceed: | 16:51 |
| yatin | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-etcd-cluster-coe | 16:51 |
| yatin | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/add-support-different-strategy-in-swarmbay | 16:52 |
| yatin | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/secure-etcd-cluster-coe(Not sure why same bp name is registered)(Increase UT Coverage for magnumclient and add coverage job to CI) | 16:52 |
| adrian_otto | ok, taking a look | 16:52 |
| Drago | yatin: Do you mean https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnumclient-ut-coverage ? | 16:53 |
| yatin | Yes | 16:53 |
| strigazi | secure-etcd-cluster-coe it very much needed | 16:53 |
| adrian_otto | yatin, do you have enough time to submit patches for each of these? | 16:53 |
| yatin | Yes | 16:53 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, I targeted the first one for ocata-1 and marked it as Essential. | 16:54 |
| yatin | i can start from this week | 16:54 |
| strigazi | add-support-different-strategy-in-swarmbay I think we need some more details | 16:54 |
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| adrian_otto | wait, we have two different blueprints with the same URL? How is that possible? | 16:54 |
| Drago | adrian_otto: I don't think we do... | 16:55 |
| yatin | Yes, i am also not sure why it happend: | 16:55 |
| strigazi | Drago +1 | 16:55 |
| yatin | the url mentioned by Drago is the correct one. | 16:55 |
| yatin | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnumclient-ut-coverage | 16:55 |
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| adrian_otto | yatin: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/add-support-different-strategy-in-swarmbay is now approved and targeted for ocata-2. | 16:56 |
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| yatin | adrian, can you assign me this as i tried to contact xianchaobo twice but hasn't received the reply. | 16:57 |
| adrian_otto | yes | 16:58 |
| adrian_otto | yatin: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnumclient-ut-coverage is now approved and targeted for ocata-2. | 16:58 |
| yatin | adrian: Thanks | 16:59 |
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| adrian_otto | yatin, what's your exact launchpad id? | 16:59 |
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| yatin | yatinkarel | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 16:59 |
| adrian_otto | done | 17:00 |
| adrian_otto | you are now the assignee on add-support-different-strategy-in-swarmbay. Please coordinate with xianchaobo to make sure you don't duplicate work. | 17:00 |
| adrian_otto | time up | 17:01 |
| adrian_otto | next meeting: 2016-11-08 at UTC 1600 | 17:01 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 1 17:01:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-11-01-16.00.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-11-01-16.00.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-11-01-16.00.log.html | 17:01 |
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| adrian_otto | sorry Murano team, for running over time. | 17:01 |
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| yatin | adrian: OK | 17:02 |
| yatin | Thanks | 17:02 |
| adrian_otto | yatin: np | 17:02 |
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