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EmilienM#startmeeting tripleo14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 11 14:00:54 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tripleo'14:00
EmilienMhello14:00
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rbradyhi14:01
jristo/14:01
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dtrainorhowdy14:01
jtomasek\m/14:01
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jristcan you guys tell dtrainor is from way out west14:01
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ccamachohey! o/14:01
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shadowerjrist: I thought howdy was a Texas thing14:02
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jristwest/south14:02
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dtrainorbetter known as "southwest"14:02
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EmilienMwelcome everyone!14:02
EmilienM#topic agenda14:03
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EmilienM* CI14:03
EmilienM* bugs14:03
EmilienM* projects releases or stable backports14:03
EmilienM* specs14:03
EmilienM* one off agenda items14:03
EmilienM* open discussion14:03
EmilienMduring the meeting, feel free to add more off items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items14:03
marioso/14:03
EmilienM#topic CI14:03
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matbufor CI i have 2 topics14:04
EmilienMit seems like derekh and panda worked on fixing an issue with OVB jobs, I saw some successful runs14:04
akrivokahi \o14:04
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EmilienMthis morning, I also saw some transient issues on multinode jobs with something trying to reach EPEL servers (wtf?)14:05
mwhahahahi14:05
EmilienMit seems fixed now, (I have no idea why yet)14:05
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matbu1/ looks like the mitaka periodic is broken for a while (september 30), idk how to solve, but i can help14:05
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EmilienMso I guess you can use 'recheck' if some jobs were failing14:05
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EmilienMmatbu: yes, I started to investigate it last week and found 2 problems14:05
EmilienMmatbu: one was networking-cisco package that were depending on python-neutron-tests, now fixed14:06
matbu2/ since https://review.openstack.org/383825 is landed i switch the upgrade from newton to master, i would like to propose 2 jobs one mitaka to newton and newton to master (but idk if mitaka to newton make sense actually ?)14:06
EmilienManother was unknown and requires more investigation.14:06
matbuEmilienM: those make the undercloud install failling ?14:06
EmilienMmatbu: maybe could you sync with slagle who is doing similar work for undercloud AFIK14:07
EmilienMmatbu: yes, eventually14:07
matbuEmilienM: ack14:07
EmilienMmatbu: it was making neutron-db-manage failing14:07
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EmilienMbut I've been off 3 days, I might need to catch-up on this Mitaka failure.14:07
slaglematbu: i have a patch to make undercloud upgrades tested: https://review.openstack.org/38128614:08
matbuEmilienM: k, afaik it start to failing on OC deployment and then UC14:08
matbuslagle: thx /me looks14:08
slaglematbu: if you wanted to add periodic jobs to make sure it's tested daily, i think that's a good idea14:08
matbuso EmilienM slagle does it make sense to maintain a mitaka to newton job ? or should we switch to newton to master ?14:08
EmilienM+1 for a periodic job, reporting results to some ML maybe14:09
slaglematbu: we need both imo14:09
slaglemy patch adds support for both (or fixes, rather)14:09
matbuslagle: EmilienM ack14:09
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EmilienMdo we have any question or useful information about CI ?14:10
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EmilienMok, let's go ahead then14:10
EmilienM#topic bugs14:11
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EmilienMso we still have 3 bugs in progress for RC3 https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-rc314:11
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matbuEmilienM: there is a new one14:12
matbuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/163233014:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1632330 in tripleo "Undercloud upgrade fails on the yum update we run before undercloud is re installed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Marios Andreou (marios-b)14:12
marioshi i filed this today https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1632330 with proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385012/1 - especially wanted to hear from bnemec about landing this as workaround until we get the proper undercloud upgrade moved to instack-undercloud as per the spec14:12
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mariosmatbu: did you add info on the openstack-heat issue you saw there /me refresh14:12
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chemEmilienM: and another https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/163223214:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1632232 in tripleo "M/N upgrade: Cinder upgrade fails to converge." [Undecided,New]14:12
matbumarios: not yet, i'm collecting info before running the UC upgrade14:12
mariosmatbu: ack14:13
EmilienMchem: could you self-triage it when filing a bug?14:13
EmilienMchem: High - newton-rc314:13
chemEmilienM: ack, oki14:13
EmilienMmarios: I thought we agreed to document this workaround14:13
slaglemarios: why do we need the workaround?14:13
EmilienMslagle: do you remember this discussion wrt https://review.openstack.org/#/c/385012/ ?14:13
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mariosslagle: hanging service on yum update14:14
slagleyes, we documented it14:14
slagleso if you're hitting that issue, the docs aren't being followed14:14
EmilienMhttp://tripleo.org/installation/installation.html#updating-undercloud-components14:15
slaglewe can add the support to instack-undercloud if we want to remove the documentation, but i dont think a workaround in tripleoclient is the right thing14:15
EmilienMI agree we need to find a longterm solution14:15
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mariosslagle: OK... there was a docs review from bnemec as part of the spec i thought you were referring to that14:15
EmilienMslagle: yes, +1 for i-u14:15
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bnemecYeah, this should eventually live in i-u, but the docs look sane right now.14:16
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mariosslagle: EmilienM if it is known that we should stop services before running the undercloud upgrade (docs are fine i missed that) then works for us14:16
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slaglemarios: yea, i'd suggest just using steps 3 thru 5 from http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/installation/installation.html#updating-undercloud-components14:16
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EmilienMchem: triage done.14:16
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mariosslagle: EmilienM we just have the same in osp10 docs for upgrade14:16
slaglethen we dont need any workarounds, or any last minutes fixes as of now14:16
mariosslagle: ack wfm matbu chem... so we can rely on docs14:17
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EmilienMchem: also please use newton-backport-potential tag in launchpad14:17
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dtrainorre: bugs, We've seen this creep up when using the ui https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1632007 , to quote jtomasek "when GUI shows the parameter value, it displays it inside input and when this happens the string gets mangled".  he picked it up but jistr mentioned that this might be a bigger issue being that we don't preserve data types properly14:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1632007 in tripleo "Failed deployment due to Hiera resolution of keystone::wsgi::apache::workers" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Jiri Tomasek (jtomasek)14:17
chemEmilienM: oki, (couldn't set the milestone, neither the importance), adding the tag14:18
rhalliseyBug I saw yesterday when updating: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/163197614:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1631976 in tripleo "Updating fails with heatclient auth url attribute error" [Undecided,New]14:18
jtomasekI am on it now, I'll mark that bug with newton-backport-potential tag14:18
social_I'd like to bring up https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1626128 as the fix we are delivering is changing command options eg api for the newton release. I think change is ok if we document it.14:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1626128 in tripleo "openstack overcloud update stack is broken" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brad P. Crochet (brad-9)14:19
EmilienMrhallisey: same, could you please make self triage of bugs14:19
EmilienMit makes me think I might need to send a reminder again, about self triage in launchpad :(14:19
rhalliseyEmilienM, I don't have perms14:19
EmilienMrhallisey: ask for it :)14:20
rhalliseycan you add me as a driver pls14:20
EmilienMI'll see if I'm adming14:20
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EmilienMadmin*14:20
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EmilienM#action EmilienM to add rhallisey and chem into launchpad tripleo group14:20
chemEmilienM: can you add me as a bug supervisor pls14:20
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EmilienMchem: i'll try :)14:20
chemhehe14:20
EmilienMsocial_: what is your question?14:22
social_EmilienM: are we ok with changing the overcloud update the way that --templates and -e will be ignored?14:22
EmilienMsocial_: if it's documented, why not14:23
EmilienMand it looks like it is, looking at the patch14:23
social_EmilienM: yeah got updated today, for me this is now OK14:23
EmilienMhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/381899/12/tripleoclient/v1/overcloud_update.py14:23
EmilienMok14:23
EmilienManything else about bugs?14:23
EmilienMplease target new bugs to ocata-1 and use the newton-backport-potential tag if needed14:24
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EmilienM#topic Projects releases or stable backports14:25
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EmilienMI have some updates about release management14:25
EmilienMI sent an email on Friday but let me repeat it here14:25
EmilienMdhellmann sent an email about projects that use trailing release14:25
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EmilienMso it seems that we have more time to produce a last RC (was scheduled on Friday)14:26
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EmilienMI think we are in a good shape to propose RC3 by next week and tag final release just before the Summit14:27
EmilienMso I'll propose RC3 early next week14:27
EmilienMand the final release will be 20 Oct14:27
EmilienMso if you have patches that we need in Newton, please use the gerrit topic:14:28
EmilienMhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:tripleo/rc3+status:open14:28
EmilienMalso, please take care of your backports14:28
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EmilienMif a patch merges in master, and we need the fix in Newton, please backport it to stable/newton14:28
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EmilienMI saw a lot of patches merged in master, targeted for newton but not backported14:28
EmilienMsorry to repeat but it doesn't seem clear to everyone14:29
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EmilienMtoday I'll go through the patches and do the backports myself if I still see them not backported14:29
EmilienMeverything that is related to upgrades *needs* to be backported14:30
EmilienMchem, marios, bandini ^14:30
mariosEmilienM: ack14:30
bandiniEmilienM: ack14:30
mwhahahaprobably would be a good idea to come up with rules around who cherry-picks14:30
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EmilienMmwhahaha: well, my hope is that patches owners would do it14:31
mwhahahalike it should be the core's responsibility or the submitters (probably the core's)14:31
bandiniI have no outstanding patches that need cherry-picking atm14:31
dtrainor_this is a bad time to have connection issues, sorry14:31
mwhahahai think the cores would be better because they would hopefully have a better understanding if it should be in the previous release14:31
trownI would think submitters responsibility as well14:31
mwhahahabut we should codify it14:31
EmilienMmwhahaha: it would be easier if submitters would do it, it's hard to catchup with all patches14:31
mariosmwhahaha: i feel like it should be the review author but anyone can propose a cherrypick really i don't think we need rules... important thing is not to land into earlier branch (stable/newton before master)14:31
mwhahahawell since it's not happening, this is why i say come up with a standard rule14:32
mariosmwhahaha: i.e. you can't stop people proposing reviews, like cherrypicks... the rules are for when we land them14:32
trownya, +1 to having a standard14:32
mwhahaha(i don't actually care who it is) we just need to make sure that expectation is clear14:32
EmilienMmwhahaha: it means the cores would have to follow all merged patches and backport them?14:32
trownmarios, not so much a rule about who CAN submit them... more who is RESPONSIBLE for submitting them14:32
mwhahahaother projects it's the cores14:32
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EmilienMI would prefer to let authors to do it and cores to vote14:33
mwhahahaEmilienM: the one who +A's could do it14:33
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bandini+1 for having the authors submit it14:33
EmilienMindeed, that's an option14:33
mwhahahai'm generally not seeing a whole bunch of people paying attention to reviews so to me i think it encourages more thought into the patches14:33
mwhahahabut that's my opinion it it, we can take it off line14:34
trownwe do already have the rule that if a core submits a backport it only requires 1 +2, so in that sense it could make sense to have cores responsible14:34
EmilienMI'm fine either way14:34
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slaglei feel it's the author's responsibility tbh14:34
mariosyeah I would also back a general 'rule' for patch authors to also be responsible for proposing to stable... but again, we can't enforce that absolutely... if author doesn't care if her patch makes it to stable, just wants in on master for whatever reason14:34
slaglejust as it is is the author's responsibility to get the backport to pass CI14:35
slaglehow will they even know it's been backported if someone does it for them14:35
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EmilienMslagle: they have gerrit notif14:35
mariosslagle: it is on the review as a cherrypick or should be (I mean gerrit ui)... personally i also notify the person if i've done that, e.g. is somethign urgent14:35
EmilienMwhen someone backports a patch where you are author, Gerrit adds you as reviewer14:35
EmilienM(in case you read Gerrit emails :-))14:36
slagleok, so they know when the master patch merges then, so why does someone else need to propose the backport?14:36
mariosslagle: maybe timezone/still early for them and you can propose and merge it now14:36
mwhahahayou have to understand people may fix bugs but not know it needs a backport14:36
mwhahahato be more community friendly i think the cores need to be more proactive14:36
mwhahaharather than assume the reviewer is going to know14:37
mariosmwhahaha: +1 only takes a second to ping someone and say you just backported foo14:37
EmilienMmaybe we can find a middleground here: cores to propose the backports and teach authors to do it themselves by communicating (IRC, etc)14:37
EmilienMso longterm authors will do it themselves14:37
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mariosEmilienM: also can we bear in mind there is literally a button you click on the review and it will stable/branch review for you assuming no merge conflict14:37
mariosjust sayin14:38
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mwhahahajust something to keep in mind, i think we need to be more proactive on the bugs/backports/etc14:38
mwhahahait's honestly everyones responsibility14:38
* shardy is late, apologies14:38
mwhahahaso don't just assume it's someone elses problem14:38
EmilienMmwhahaha: you ok to start documenting it in tripleo-specs? we have a doc for that, i'll chat with you after meeting14:38
shardymeeting conflict14:39
mwhahahak14:39
EmilienMshardy: np14:39
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EmilienM#action mwhahaha & EmilienM to improve backport doc in tripleo-specs and get feedback from other cores14:39
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EmilienM#action EmilienM to cherry-pick missing backports for newton rc314:40
EmilienManyone can help ^14:40
EmilienMI have a last update about release management14:40
EmilienMthis week-end I updated https://launchpad.net/tripleo/ocata with the deadlines for Ocata: a good FYI if you wonder about scheduling14:40
EmilienMbasically one milestone per month14:41
EmilienMstarting from november, then december, then january and February is final :-)14:41
EmilienMso really short cycle this time.14:41
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EmilienMany question or feedback about release management and backports?14:42
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shardyEmilienM: I can help with backports14:42
EmilienMshardy: cool, let's sync post meeting then, thanks14:42
EmilienM#topic specs14:43
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EmilienMwe're running short time14:43
EmilienM#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open14:43
EmilienMwe have some specs open, most of them are for ocata, I would ask authors to make sure specs are ready for review, so discussion can happen prior Summit14:44
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EmilienMdo we have anything about specs this week?14:44
EmilienM#topic off items14:45
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EmilienM#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items14:45
EmilienMdtrainor: you want to start?14:45
dtrainorSure, thank you.  I'm in the process of writing a spec which should be done today, but the jest of it is, make an Undercloud SSL-enabled whenever enable_ui = true.  This enables haproxy, which will then be used to proxy connections for the API endpoint services that UI needs to talk with.  These endpoints would listen on an external, routable IP address/interface as defined by a new undercloud.conf variable.14:45
dtrainorThis is something we've been trying to get working in a better manner for UI for a while and based on discussion on the list and testing various setups, this seems to be the most viable and least intrusive option14:45
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dtrainor#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/enable-communication-ui-undercloud14:46
dtrainor(can I use link?)14:46
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jaosoriordtrainor: isn't that functionality already available if you set the undercloud_public_vip variable from the undercloud.conf? You could set that to a public interface already and that's what HAProxy will use.14:46
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EmilienMdtrainor: yes you can use link14:46
dtrainorjaosorior, I'm not familiar with the finer details of undercloud_public_vip but i would love to look in to this.  If undercloud_public_vip is configured, does this have any impact on any Overcloud components that expect to access it from the ctrlplane?14:47
EmilienMI'm not sure "Essential" is the right priority14:47
EmilienMmaybe "High" ?14:47
dtrainorwithout something like this, the ui will not work.  jrist re: priority?14:48
jaosoriordtrainor: the overcloud should be using the internal/admin endpoints, so it should be fine14:48
dtrainorjaosorior, i'll test that, thank you14:48
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EmilienMdtrainor: not a big deal, we can rediscuss it offline14:49
EmilienMdtrainor: is it something we can do during ocata-1 ?14:49
EmilienMI set the milestone, but feel free to propose a new one14:49
dtrainorwe would still need a server in haproxy to proxy traffic for ui to enable ssl, even if undercloud_public_vip opens these services up as we need them to be opened, i'd still like the option of making this work if that doesn't achieve what we're looking for (i'll of cours edo more testing)14:50
dtrainori'm certain it is yes14:50
EmilienMok14:50
EmilienMdtrainor: does it requires a design change? if yes, maybe a tripleo-specs would be useful14:51
jaosoriordtrainor: alright, lets see if that does the trick. Anyway, feel free to add me as a reviewer if you come up with some patches. Even if they're WIP14:51
dtrainorEmilienM, I'm in the process of writing a spec14:51
EmilienMdtrainor: nice. Thanks14:51
EmilienMok, let's move on14:51
EmilienMshadower: go ahead14:51
dtrainorif undercloud_public_vip solves this then i'd love for it to be in newton14:51
dtrainor(sorry, wanted to add that)14:51
shadowerWe've added the tripleo-validations repo in Newton14:52
dtrainorthanks for the time14:52
shadowerright now it's just me and mandre who know it well14:52
EmilienMdtrainor: np, sorry we're running out of time14:52
dtrainorcompletely understood, thank you14:52
shadowerbut we need other 8cores to review (as in +2/A) to get things merged14:52
jaosoriordtrainor: undercloud_public_vip is already in newton :)14:52
EmilienMshadower: I was wondering, would it be useful to put this doc in the repo itself?14:52
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EmilienMlike other python projects, in docs/ dir14:52
shadowerEmilienM: I think so, will do taht14:52
shadowerso the doc in question:14:52
dtrainorjaosorior, yes it is, but i want to test this and make sure it will achieve what i was looking to do as defined in the blueprint (and whatever the spec ends up being)14:52
EmilienMthat would be documented on docs.openstack.org/developer/14:52
shadower#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105364.html14:53
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EmilienMshadower: or in tripleo-docs14:53
shadowerthis ^ is a list of things you can look for when reviewing a tripleo-validations patch14:53
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shadowerwould appreciate people having a look and reviewing tripleo-validations more14:53
EmilienMor in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-validations/14:53
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EmilienMactually, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-validations/ would be the perfect place I think14:53
slagleshadower: you can also add the repo here: http://tripleo.org/reviews.html14:54
shadowerslagle: ah, will do thanks14:54
slagleshadower: via scripts/website/tripleo-reviewday.yaml in tripleo-ci14:54
shadowerEmilienM: I'd like to send a few patches for tripleo-docs shortly to talk about validations etc14:54
EmilienMgood14:54
EmilienMmore docs!14:54
shadowerand yeah add more specific stuff to the tripleo-validations docs14:54
shadowerYEP14:54
shadowernext week or so14:54
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shadowerin the meantime, people can get more familiar with the reviews by checking out the email14:55
shadowerthat's it from me14:55
EmilienMexcellent, thanks14:55
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EmilienMok so my turn, I have 2 infos:14:55
EmilienM#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-tripleo14:55
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EmilienMthis is another reminder for our group to review the topics and prepare the agenda14:56
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EmilienMI sent emails to topic chairs about it, and make sure we have an outcome for each session14:57
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EmilienMfor each session, we want to define the problem to solve and propose / discuss eventual solutions14:57
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EmilienMthat's what we need to prepare before the Summit14:57
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EmilienMthe other topic is PTG14:58
trownEmilienM: I missed that email for "Growing the Team", or is that one good since we went through it together?14:58
EmilienM#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/14:58
EmilienMtrown: it's good :)14:58
trowncool14:58
EmilienMtrown: iirc, I just sent an email on containers & upgrades14:58
EmilienMjust a reminder to marios / dprince etc to update etherpad14:59
mariosack thanks EmilienM already had first pass14:59
trownCI topic still needs a chair as well14:59
EmilienMso I need to tell OpenStack foundation if tripleo needs PTG sessions14:59
trownoh nevermind, I see slagle volunteered14:59
EmilienMok we're running overtime14:59
slaglei can chair or co-chair the CI one if anyone else is eager14:59
EmilienMslagle: ++14:59
slaglewhich i gather no one is since it was TBD :)15:00
EmilienMI need to close the meeting15:00
EmilienMopen discussion on #tripleo, I'll stay available if anything15:00
EmilienMthanks everyone !15:00
ccamachothanks!15:00
EmilienM#endmeeting15:00
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beaglescheers15:00
trownthanks for chairing15:00
jtomasekthanks15:00
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-10-11-14.00.html15:00
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EmilienM(I'll catch up the PTG thing after the meeting)15:00
shardythanks EmilienM !15:00
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dtrainorthank you EmilienM, great job15:01
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tmorin1#startmeeting bgpvpn15:07
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 11 15:07:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tmorin1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:07
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:07
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn'15:07
tmorin1hi everyone15:08
tmorin1hi bfernando, doude, lewo, matrohon, pcarver, timirnich ...15:08
doudehi15:09
bfernandohi15:09
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tmorin1we'll wait a bit for matrohon15:13
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tmorin1but I can start with what he already knows15:13
tmorin1#topic announcements15:13
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tmorin1I've  triggered yesterday a last mitaka release 4.0.2, including a pile of fixes among which the one merged end of last week (doude)15:15
tmorin1and after merges the last pending things for our newton.0 release, we've just asked for a release15:15
doudethanks for the backport tmorin115:15
tmorin1you're welcome :)15:15
tmorin1I expect our 5.0.0 to be out very soon (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383624/)15:16
matrohonhieulq_, sorry15:17
matrohonhieulq_, sorry15:17
tmorin1we have one small horizon bug, but which can be fixed in a 5.0.1 (bug 1632264)15:18
openstackbug 1632264 in networking-bgpvpn "horizon admin GUI: failure if there is one BGPVPN with non-existant tenant" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163226415:18
matrohonhi  sorry15:18
matrohon:)15:18
tmorin1:)15:18
tmorin1I just explained the release work done/in progress15:18
tmorin1next topic ?15:19
tmorin1odl driver ?15:19
tmorin1#topic ODL driver15:19
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tmorin1we've hit an issue yestreday, where our gate was broken because of a broken DB migration script in ODL15:20
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tmorin1because we have odl as a test-requirement and we have a db migration test that runs every db hook installed in the venv15:20
tmorin1all this was quite easily worked around15:20
matrohonyamahata, is on the patch too15:21
tmorin1but lead us to think that its probably time for ODL driver to move in networking-odl15:21
matrohonit is targeted for ocata :15:21
matrohonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/163211715:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1632117 in networking-bgpvpn "odl driver for bgpvpn should be moved to networking-odl and v2 type driver is needed" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:21
tmorin1see bug 163211715:22
openstackbug 1632117 in networking-bgpvpn "odl driver for bgpvpn should be moved to networking-odl and v2 type driver is needed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163211715:22
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tmorin1https://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/163211715:22
tmorin1openstack bot doing funky things :)15:23
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tmorin1we currently also have bagpipe bgpvpn driver sitting partly in networking-bgpvpn and partly in networking-bagpipe,   we'll consider changing that in ocata as well15:23
tmorin1but we'll have other things to do for ocata...15:24
tmorin1... next topic : stadium ?15:24
tmorin1#topic networking-bgppvn in stadium15:24
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matrohonwell, this way we would avoid assessment for bagpipe...15:24
tmorin1matrohon: perhaps, but perhaps not, it would still be a dependency ...15:25
tmorin1anyhow, the goal for bagpipe is to meet the stadium criteria as well15:26
matrohonI mean avoid assesment for net-bagpipe15:26
tmorin1maybe others wonder what assessment we are talking about15:26
matrohonmaybe :)15:26
tmorin1matrohon: yes, but I'm not sure we can/want avoid it :)15:26
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tmorin1#link https://review.openstack.org/38390615:26
tmorin1it's basically a checklist of things we should do15:26
tmorin1we do a fair number of them, but not all15:27
tmorin1here is an HTML version15:27
tmorin1#link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/06/383906/2/check/gate-neutron-specs-docs-ubuntu-xenial/5191893//doc/build/html/specs/stadium/ocata/networking-bgpvpn.html15:27
tmorin1we pretty good on N.*15:28
tmorin1we are also pretty good for D.*15:28
tmorin1tmorin1: we are partially meeting C.* criteria15:28
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tmorin1the parts missing are: C4 (fulstack), do better on C3 (functional), C6 (grenade), C7 (multinode: does it apply for us?), C8 (python3)15:30
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tmorin1and C1 is missing as well (grafana)15:30
tmorin1R1 and R2 are ok15:31
tmorin1S1 ok as well15:31
matrohonI think we can emulate multinode with fullstack...15:32
tmorin1possibly15:32
matrohonAFAIR, neutron does that15:32
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tmorin1neutron has also grenade... multinode tests15:33
tmorin1last criteria is " L1. If the project requires a client library, how does it implement CLI and API bindings? "15:33
matrohonneutron has a lot of dev...15:33
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tmorin1I think our answer won't be in our favor until we support openstack client15:34
tmorin1armax: we're discussing about networking-bgpvpn scorecard15:34
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tmorin1armax: how are we expected to update it ? first merge the empty score card then we push changes with real content ? or we push PS2..PS3... to the current change (https://review.openstack.org/383906) ?15:36
armaxtmorin1: I’ll have a first pass, then you can review/comment and go from tehre15:36
tmorin1armax: ok, is it helpful if we comment on certain items15:37
matrohonarmax summed it up in : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383907/15:37
matrohonarmax, ok15:38
tmorin1matrohon: ok, thanks for the pointer15:38
tmorin1armax: thanks15:38
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tmorin1so quite obviously, the better we fare on this scorecard at ocata-1 deadline, the better15:42
tmorin1we'll need willing contributors to help improve on the criteria that we don't meet yet15:42
tmorin1in particular (no order):  openstack client (L1), grafana (C1), fullstack (C4), python3, grenade (C6), multinode (C7)15:44
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tmorin1I have a colleague with whom we've already started looking at adding fullstack testing for networking-bgpvpn and networking-bagpipe15:45
matrohoncool!15:46
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tmorin1pcarver, doude, lewo/bfernando, timirnich: don't be shy, don't hesitate to take on one of these items !15:47
doude:)15:47
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tmorin1doude: I'm sure doing the openstack client stuff, or adjusting code for python 3, are the kind of things that would take you only 2-3 hours  :)15:48
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doudesorry, I don't follow all the OpenStack neutron activities. What is fullstack? Or perhaps is no the place to discuss it, but do you have doc link?15:48
tmorin1http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/fullstack_testing.html15:49
doudecertainly15:49
doudenot15:49
doudethanks tmorin115:49
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tmorin1in Barcelona, i'll buy drinks to whoever has started work on any of these !  ;)15:49
doudeI take the openstaclient one15:50
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matrohonIll buy nachos and tacos!15:50
doudedo you have a bug ,15:50
doude?15:50
tmorin1goood :)15:50
tmorin1let me check15:50
pcarvertmorin1: I don't expect to have any time before the summit, but will hopefully be able to help with some of this after15:50
tmorin1I think that we do15:50
matrohonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bgpvpn/+bug/156199315:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561993 in networking-bgpvpn "support for openstack CLI" [High,Confirmed]15:50
tmorin1pcarver: ok... ocata-1 is November 17th, so we won't have /that/ much time after Barcelona15:51
tmorin1doude ^ for the openstack client bug15:51
doudeok15:52
tmorin1thanks matrohon15:52
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tmorin1#topic barcelona15:52
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tmorin1about Barcelona15:52
tmorin1we didn't check yet where to "ask" for a design summit slot15:52
tmorin1or did anyone ?15:53
tmorin1matrohon: ?15:53
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matrohonnot really15:53
matrohonI thinks we will do as previous summit15:53
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tmorin1doude, this is a better link on fullstack : http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/development.environment.html#fullstack-tests15:54
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doudetmorin1: yes thanks15:54
tmorin1matrohon: yes15:54
tmorin1which means meeting at sometime in the week, and then on Friday morning if need be15:55
tmorin1ok15:56
tmorin1anything else for today ?15:56
tmorin1#topic open discussion, wrap up...15:56
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tmorin1ok, thanks everyone15:57
tmorin1bye bye...15:57
tmorin1#endmeeting15:57
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openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-10-11-15.07.log.html15:57
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adrian_otto#startmeeting containers16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 11 16:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
adrian_otto#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-10-11_1600_UTC Our Agenda16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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adrian_otto#topic Roll Call16:00
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strigazio/ Spyros16:00
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adrian_ottoAdrian Otto16:00
hongbino/16:00
tonanhngoTon Ngo16:00
eghoboo/16:00
Dragoo/16:01
rpothierRob Pothier16:01
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adrian_ottohello strigazi hongbin tonanhngo eghobo Drago rpothier16:02
dane_leblanco/16:02
adrian_ottohello dane_leblanc16:02
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adrian_ottook, let's continue, Feel free to chime in at any time to be recorded in attendance.16:03
adrian_otto#topic Announcements16:03
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adrian_otto1) Reminder: There will be no team meeting on 2016-10-25 because that is the week of the OpenStack Summit in Barcelona.16:03
adrian_otto2) Please review our NodeGroup spec draft to prepare for our Summit discussion on this topic:16:03
adrian_otto#link https://review.openstack.org/352734 [WIP] Add NodeGroup specification16:03
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adrian_ottoWe'd like to get as much (+core) team feedback prior to the summit as possible, so we can be very clear with our community about what to expect16:04
DragoWill we be having a discussion on the NodeGroup spec in our meeting next week?16:04
adrian_ottoyes, and we can touch on it today as well, time permitting16:04
DragoSo we can do the fishbowl before the summit design session16:04
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adrian_ottois anyone prepared to have that discussion today, or do you need time to review it first?16:04
DragoI have pushed another update to the spec, but it's mostly to move things around16:05
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strigaziI want to do one more detailed pass16:05
tonanhngoI would need time16:05
adrian_ottook, we'll come prepared for a discussion next meeting.16:05
adrian_ottoany announcements form team members?16:06
adrian_ottos/form/from/16:06
adrian_ottook, advancing topics...16:06
adrian_otto#topic Review Action Items16:06
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adrian_otto#action adrian_otto follow up with Kuryr PTL to arrange a joint session16:06
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adrian_ottoStatus: Pending. I expect to complete this today.16:07
adrian_otto#topic Essential Blueprint Review16:07
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adrian_ottoSupport baremetal container clusters (strigazi)16:07
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support16:07
adrian_ottoany update?16:07
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adrian_ottostrigazi: you still there?16:08
strigaziWe still test the fixed_network work, after that we can hav the same driver for vm and bm16:08
adrian_ottoso additional work is ongoing, correct?16:09
strigaziyes16:09
adrian_ottodo you need any help from the team to move this forward?16:09
adrian_otto*from16:09
adrian_ottolazy fingers today16:09
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strigaziIn testing, if you will to deploy devstack with ironic16:10
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strigaziand have a big enough host16:10
strigaziIn a vm is pretty slow16:10
adrian_ottowhat size should we recommend?16:10
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strigazi>=14 GB of RAM and >=8 cores16:10
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adrian_ottolet's plan to put that in the operator guide16:11
strigaziOk, I'll do it this week16:11
adrian_ottoany remarks on this work from the team?16:11
strigaziI have a concern16:11
adrian_ottook16:11
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strigaziabout having this as essential, is it really? For us is a 6 month plan16:12
strigaziwe don't have ironic yet16:12
strigaziDo you mind moving it to high?16:13
adrian_ottoIs there any objection to downgrading it? I think hongbin set it with this priority because we felt it was important to deliver BM support in N.16:13
hongbini have no problem to change the priority16:14
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adrian_ottoconsidering Newton is out now, it makes sense to relax this.16:14
strigaziI expect to finish during Nov16:14
adrian_ottowe did make progress on this for Newton, enough that it's still noteworthy.16:14
adrian_ottolet's adjust it right now, 1 sec.16:14
strigaziok, thanks16:14
adrian_ottoDone. I will strike it from the next agenda.16:15
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adrian_otto#action adrian_otto to remove BM Blueprint from Essential BP Review on team agenda16:15
strigazithanks16:15
adrian_ottonext one...16:15
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango)16:15
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tonanhngoI don't have any update.16:16
adrian_ottotonanhngo: should this also be reset to High?16:16
tonanhngoThat would be good also16:16
adrian_ottothe same logic applies here16:16
adrian_ottook, doing it...16:16
tonanhngoThanks16:16
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adrian_ottooh, it already is.16:16
adrian_otto#action adrian_otto to remove Docs Blueprint from Essential BP Review on team agenda16:17
adrian_otto... drumroll please ...16:17
adrian_otto#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers COE Bay Drivers (muralia)16:17
adrian_ottoStatus: COMPLETE16:17
strigaziWe should define the essential bps in the summit16:17
adrian_ottothe code merged yesterday!16:17
DragoI have muralia's update16:17
adrian_ottothanks Drago16:17
Drago"The only update I have is that my patch got merged"16:18
Drago(there's one more update)16:18
Drago"I need one more patch to address 2 things. release notes and docs. and to move the 'cluster delete' method to the drivers."16:18
adrian_ottohah!16:18
DragoThat's it16:18
adrian_ottoexcellent.16:18
adrian_ottothanks to all the contributors who helped with making and reviewing that contribution.16:18
adrian_ottoit's nice to see it completed.16:19
adrian_otto(almost)16:19
adrian_ottoany other remarks on this BP?16:19
adrian_otto#topic Other Blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas16:19
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adrian_ottoKuryr Integration Update (tango)16:19
adrian_ottotonanhngo: anything to share?16:19
tonanhngoI attended the meeting yesterday16:20
tonanhngoMostly the team continues with the implementation16:20
adrian_ottowhat was the outcome on the consideration of our security concern?16:20
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adrian_ottoI got the sense that triggered a reset of sorts16:20
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tonanhngoThere was some discussion on the nested VM implementation, but no new development on the driver regarding the security concern16:20
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tonanhngoYes, they were still storing a credential for the agent to talk to the driver16:21
adrian_ottook16:21
hongbinfor this, i can brief talk about that16:21
hongbini submitted a bp for kuryr team to split the agent into two16:21
adrian_ottothanks hongbin16:21
hongbinthe first agent is for interfacing with neutron, the second agent is for doing the port binding16:22
adrian_ottocan we share the link to that BP?16:22
hongbinone second16:22
hongbin#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kuryr/+spec/split-libnetwork-agent16:22
adrian_ottotx!16:23
hongbinthe goal is to have one agent deployed on master node, another deployed on worker node16:23
hongbinthe credential will be stored in the master node, and used by the master agent to talk to neutron16:23
adrian_ottogood idea, hongbin16:23
hongbinthis will release the credential concern a little16:23
hongbinthat is all from me16:23
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tonanhngoso there is no credential on the worker node?16:23
adrian_ottodid we put any thought into what would control access to the remote portion of that agent?16:24
hongbintonanhngo: no16:24
hongbintonanhngo: the worker node will do the port binding purely16:24
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tonanhngoThe master node is still a user VM though?16:24
hongbinadrian_otto: no so far16:24
hongbinadrian_otto: but will get into that16:24
hongbintonanhngo: yes16:25
adrian_ottook, that's promising progress. Thanks so much for the update and your contribution.16:25
adrian_ottoany other remarks on the topic of Kuryr?16:25
adrian_ottook, advancing...16:25
adrian_ottomagnum-specs repository (strigazi)16:25
strigaziI'd like to add a magnum-specs repo to publish our specs here: http://specs.openstack.org/16:26
adrian_ottoanythign to cover on this topic this week, or is this an artifact from last time?16:26
adrian_ottogreat, I love that idea.16:26
strigaziIt's from last time, do you hava an objection?16:27
adrian_ottodoes the team have any concerns about proceeding with this16:27
adrian_otto?16:27
Drago+116:27
hongbini think this is a good idea as well16:27
tonanhngo+116:27
vijendar+116:27
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strigaziok16:28
adrian_ottosounds like we are all-in!16:28
strigazi#action strigazi to create a magnum-specs repo16:28
strigazior you must do it?16:28
strigaziI mean the action16:28
adrian_ottoGIve it a try16:28
Dragohe did16:28
adrian_ottoLMK if you need anything from me to proceed16:28
Dragooh16:28
adrian_otto#action strigazi to create a magnum-specs repo16:29
adrian_ottoIt would be nice if meetbot would ACK actions.16:29
strigazianyway, I'll do it16:29
adrian_ottoanyway, it's recorded.16:29
adrian_ottoany other discussion before we advance the agenda?16:29
strigaziSince we have some time, I started to draft this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-driver-upgrades16:29
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strigaziIt is incomplete but I want to add as much content as possible until the summit16:30
adrian_ottogood16:30
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adrian_ottodirectionally approved16:30
hongbinstrigazi: so the bp proposed to use software config to do the upgrade?16:30
strigaziYes, but if we decide to have a magnum agent we change16:31
Dragostrigazi: Have you started a spec yet?16:31
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strigaziYes, but not pushed, I'll push tomorrow16:31
hongbinstrigazi: then the bp needs to revise to avoid the restriction on using software config16:31
strigaziThat's why is drafting. This bp will introduce two things16:32
DragoI think that which agent is used is a more minor detail in how upgrades are achieved16:32
strigaziHow to version drivers16:32
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strigaziand how to actually do the upgrades16:32
hongbinDrago: agree16:33
adrian_otto+116:33
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hongbinstrigazi: get that. my concern is the implementation details are over-specified in the bp16:33
strigaziWe'll iterate on that16:33
adrian_ottostrigazi: ok, we should make sure that's in the Summit Session Planning etherpad, which we will get to in a moment.16:33
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adrian_ottobut before we get to that...16:34
adrian_otto#topic Auth Plugin Discussion16:34
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adrian_ottovijendar has been working on this. The question is: Should the binary plugin for Swarm auth plugin be baked into our cluster node image, or downloaded separately?16:34
hongbinfor this topic, i have a big concern on the direction16:34
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vijendarhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/docker-authz-plugin16:35
adrian_otto#link https://review.openstack.org/383061 (WIP)Docker auth plugin to prevent deletion of infra containers16:35
hongbini have went through the bp, and not sure if this is part of the magnum mission to maintain such plugin16:35
hongbin1. the plugin is not written in python16:35
adrian_ottowell, let's make it clear what this is for.16:35
adrian_ottothe purpose of this is to prevent users from accidentally deleting portions of their COE16:36
adrian_ottowhich is a feature for cloud operators who run Magnum16:36
hongbinis that specific to magnum?16:36
adrian_ottothe plugin could certainly be written in python if there was a good reason for that.16:36
hongbinit sounds like a general purpose plugin to me16:36
adrian_ottoyes, that's why I asked for it to be part of the contrib tree, and not in our main code base.16:37
hongbinok, if it will go to contrib tree, then it is fine16:37
strigaziit definately must be in our repo16:37
adrian_ottobut I do understand your concern, hongbin. If there is a better approach, what do you suggest? We don't really care where it lives as long as we integrate the result.16:37
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adrian_ottobut whether or not the plugin is in our repo, the hook to add it to Magnum clusters should be16:38
DragoUnless it's some sort of OpenStack-wide mandate, I do not see how the language used matters.16:38
hongbinadrian_otto: i would argue that it should go to some docker upstream repo or other teams. if it needs to go into magnum, it should be in contrib tree16:38
adrian_ottovijendar: I think this is contemplated as an optional feature, right?16:38
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vijendaradrian_otto: current change does not make it optional16:39
vijendaradrian_otto: but we can make it optional16:39
hongbinDrago: the openstack said limit the usage of programming lauguage such as go land16:39
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hongbinwell, it looks this discussion should go into the summit16:40
adrian_ottohongbin: that decision was about OpenStack API services. What we are after here is a completely different scope.16:40
adrian_ottothat woudl be like saying storage device drivers must be written in python to be available in Cinder. Its apples/oranges.16:40
hongbinadrian_otto: could you elaborate?16:40
adrian_ottothere is an abstraction interface that allows docker plugins to be done in any language.16:41
adrian_ottoand if you look at the plugin, what it does is completely trivial16:41
hongbinadrian_otto: yes, get that. but if it is not written in python, it will cause problem to deliver and package that plugin  i guess16:41
adrian_ottothere is no possible way it would ever use any component of oslo, for example16:41
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adrian_ottoand that's really what the OpenStack TC is concerned about16:42
strigaziCan we verify from TC that it is ok to have it in go?16:42
adrian_ottoif we feel that's necessary16:42
strigazifor sure it is completely different from solo16:43
strigazioslo16:43
adrian_ottolet's just think about what the lowest friction approach to getting the desired outcome... we want Magnum clusters that user's can't accidentally destroy through normal use.16:43
adrian_ottothe patch in question is one approach to solving that.16:43
hongbini think this is a good feature, but i would argue that this should be a optional feature16:44
adrian_ottoyes, we can certainly have a follow-up patch to add it as optional.16:44
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vijendarsure… we can make it an optional feature16:44
hongbinby default, users should get a standard coe cluster without any plugins (other than the official one) to surprise them16:44
adrian_otto(although I honestly can't imagine a cloud operator deciding to turn that off)16:44
adrian_ottohongbin: good point.16:45
strigaziOne more thing to think about is how to deliver the code16:45
strigaziI mean the binary16:45
vijendarbut at the same time, user could accidentally delete their infra containers if we don't enable this plugin16:45
hongbinthen, the operators will enable the plugin if they care about this16:46
vijendarstrigazi: currently I am thinking about following options16:46
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vijendarPlugin installation options:16:46
vijendar1. Pre-install docker authorization plugin on the image16:46
vijendar2. Download the authorization plugin on cluster creation and install16:46
vijendar3. Download the authorization plugin source code on cluster creation and then build and install16:46
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strigaziWe can have a look on what we can do on infra16:46
strigaziCan you bake a script to build the binary?16:47
vijendarstrigazi: I think we can16:47
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strigaziEven in a container16:47
DragoSince this is a driver-level feature, it could be optional in the sense that if an operator didn't want it, they could fork the driver and remove it16:47
strigazitrue16:47
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Dragosorry, @hongbin16:48
strigazibut it depends on how we implemented it, to be easy to remove16:48
adrian_ottook, so let's look at the three options vijendar mentioned above16:48
hongbinDrago: well, that is your point. i respect16:48
adrian_ottotoday we use the #1 approach for basically everything16:48
adrian_ottoso we could do it that way to be consistent.16:48
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hongbini would still argue that the operations should add the driver instead of remove16:49
hongbins/operation/operators/16:49
adrian_ottoalternatively, we could use one of the other approaches which could simplify image creation a bit.16:49
adrian_ottoone disadvantage of downloading a binary is that it may not be as safe as baking it into the image16:50
adrian_ottoit makes it harder to audit as well16:50
strigaziIf I have a straight forward way to build the binary I can put it in the infra build easily16:51
adrian_ottostrigazi: that's my preference, but I wanted to consider wider team input as well.16:51
adrian_ottohongbin: I have noted your objection, and we will revisit this as a team.16:51
vijendarstrigazi: I can work on it16:51
strigazithanks16:52
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hongbinadrian_otto: yes, would like to discuss this further with the team as well16:52
vijendarstrigazi: I mean, I can work on building the binary script16:52
adrian_ottook, one more thing before open discussion, as we are running low on time...16:52
strigaziDDDDvijendar, yeap, get it16:52
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strigazivijendar, yeap, get it16:52
adrian_otto#topic Summit Session Planning Check-up16:52
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adrian_otto#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-ocata-summit-topics Summit Planning16:53
adrian_ottoplease make sure all topics you want to cover at the Summit are listed on this etherpad16:53
adrian_ottoI'm going to match them to slots this week.16:53
adrian_otto#topic Open Discussion16:53
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tonanhngoJust want to mention that we have Magnum Newton running on a 100 nodes OpenStack16:54
tonanhngoBig thanks to Rackspace team for helping to build the environment16:54
adrian_ottostrigazi: please check that cluster driver upgrades are adequately represented in the above etherpad.16:55
strigaziok16:55
adrian_ottotonanhngo: maybe explain a bit about why we did it16:55
tonanhngoThe CNCF Lab provides us a large cluster to do scalability study16:56
tonanhngoThis is similar to the OSIC lab16:56
tonanhngoTheir interest is mainly in Kubernetes, but they help us because of the common interest16:57
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tonanhngoSo in the past 2 weeks, we have been building OS Newton on this environment, from scratch16:57
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tonanhngoWe looked at using Kolla, Openstack Ansible, and other tools16:58
tonanhngobut in the end, we used Openstack Ansible because it was ready for Newton16:58
tonanhngoThe Rackspace team (Adrian, Chris, Drago) has expertise on this, so they stepped in and helped16:58
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tonanhngoNow we are ready to run a collection of benchmarks, including Rally plugin for Magnum16:59
tonanhngoWe will share the result at the Summit, both in a talk and in a design session16:59
tonanhngoThat's the story :)16:59
adrian_ottothanks everyone17:00
adrian_ottosee you next week at 1600 UTC!17:01
adrian_otto#endmeeting17:01
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kzaitsev_mb#startmeeting murano17:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 11 17:02:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kzaitsev_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:02
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kzaitsev_mb#topic rollcall17:02
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oshO/17:04
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kzaitsev_mbosh: at least I'm not alone today =)17:04
DavidPurcello/17:04
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osh(:17:05
kzaitsev_mbhey DavidPurcell!17:05
DavidPurcellhello!17:05
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kzaitsev_mbI'd like to thank you and your team for the efforts on making our tests great17:05
kzaitsev_mbit's 81% already!17:06
DavidPurcellHooray!17:06
DavidPurcellAnd we appreciate the thanks :)17:06
DavidPurcellAlthough some guys are getting a bit tired of it, haha.17:06
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kzaitsev_mbDavidPurcell: if your team is getting tired of unit tests — we can probably think of/find a feature you guys might be interested to develop17:11
kzaitsev_mbor maybe you have some suggestions =)17:11
kzaitsev_mblooks like we don't have much folks today on the meeting,so I expect it will be rather short )17:11
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kzaitsev_mb#topic Action Items Review17:11
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kzaitsev_mb#action kzaitsev_mb gat a list of topics and choose one for WS17:12
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kzaitsev_mbI've been too busy with release and *company* things17:12
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kzaitsev_mbso going to do that this week17:13
kzaitsev_mbhuh =(17:13
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kzaitsev_mb#topic Release Model Change17:13
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kzaitsev_mb#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384720/17:13
kzaitsev_mbalmost there )17:13
felipemonteiro_kzaitsev_mb: I'd be willing to do unit tests on occasion, but working on a feature to break up the monotony would be nice.17:14
kzaitsev_mbnot sure if there is much to say here ) thanks to the team for chiping in with +1s17:14
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kzaitsev_mbfelipemonteiro_: we had a list of features we wanted to implement in newton and I'm going to have a similar for ocata =)17:15
kzaitsev_mbthis is part of my preparations for the summit in Barcelona17:16
kzaitsev_mbbuilding a list of priorities and making sure all the team agrees on them )17:16
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kzaitsev_mbso I'll definitelly share it this or next week with you guys =)17:16
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DavidPurcellThat'd be great!17:17
kzaitsev_mbI think we've already moved to the Open Discussion part )17:17
kzaitsev_mb#topic Open Discussion17:17
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kzaitsev_mbDavidPurcell: felipemonteiro_: not sure if you guys saw the email about the time change for our community meeting17:19
kzaitsev_mbjust a heads up for the change17:19
DavidPurcellI didn't see the email, but I saw the discussion in here.17:19
kzaitsev_mbwe're probably going to implement it right after the summit17:19
kzaitsev_mb#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104529.html17:20
kzaitsev_mbalso it's that time of the month, when we get a new portion of backports17:21
kzaitsev_mbvakovalchuk is not here today, but he did that as usual17:22
kzaitsev_mb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-stable-backports17:22
kzaitsev_mbalso mitaka is entering 2d phase and liberty will soon meet it's EOL (just another heads up)17:25
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DavidPurcellOur company still uses Kilo... :'(17:25
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kzaitsev_mbDavidPurcell: yeah, I know how it feels17:26
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sergmelikyankzaitsev_mb: https://review.openstack.org/381716 any chance you know why this fails?17:33
kzaitsev_mbA lot of people talking around me %)) so I get distracted17:33
* sergmelikyan trying to merge pkg-check17:34
kzaitsev_mbsergmelikyan: not really — gotta ping folks on #openstack-requirements channel17:35
sergmelikyanI've rechecked couple of times but doesn't help :(17:35
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kzaitsev_mbI think I wanted to share smth more, but can't remember =)17:37
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kzaitsev_mbif there is nothing more to discuss — I'm going to end our meeting in 5 mins and save ourselves a bit of our lives )17:41
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kzaitsev_mb#action kzaitsev_mb share ocata cycle plan with DavidPurcell and felipemonteiro_17:46
kzaitsev_mbok thanks everyone for joining today!17:46
kzaitsev_mb#endmeeting17:47
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DavidPurcellthanks for the information17:47
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-10-11-17.02.html17:47
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Oct 11 19:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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pvanecko/19:01
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catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-10-1119:02
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catherineDlet's start ..19:03
catherineD#topic      RefStack client  whitelist19:03
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catherineD#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381232/19:04
catherineDPlease review and merge ...  users reported that test time increase by 3x because of testing using UUID19:05
catherineDthis patch will fix that ....19:05
catherineDplease review...19:05
luzCdone19:05
catherineDluzC: thx19:05
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catherineDpvaneck: sslypushenko: we need an other +2 please target to merge this today .... so that the user can start their test ...19:06
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catherineDpls see yesterday and today's #refstack IRC logs for more info19:07
catherineDmoving on ...19:07
sslypushenkocatherineD  LGTM, merged19:07
catherineDsslypushenko: GREAT  Thanks!!!!19:07
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catherineDmoving on ...19:09
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catherineD#topic Taget to merge feature/vendor to master19:09
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catherineDthe code in feature/vendor branch is for vendor/product registration ...19:10
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catherineDwe target to merge all pending patches to feature/vendor branch:  Oct 12, 2016  ...19:10
catherineDwe still have one day ...19:10
catherineDcurrently we have 2 patches that need to review ...19:11
catherineD#link Add tests to product page   (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382697/  )19:11
catherineDAndrey had reviewed this patch and have a comment ...19:11
pvaneckworking on a patchset for that one19:11
Rockygo/19:12
catherineDpvaneck: to address Andrey's comments?19:12
catherineDRockyg: meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-10-1119:12
pvaneckyes19:13
catherineDpvaneck: thanks!  Really appreciate that ....19:13
catherineDAndrey is not here but I hope that he will review pvaneck: 's response to his comment in the next patch ...19:14
Rockygthanks19:14
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catherineDnext one ..19:14
catherineD#link Add ability in UI to associate test to product/version  (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384272/  )19:14
catherineDsslypushenko: could you please review ...19:15
catherineDI will send Andrey an email for him to review ...19:15
catherineDhopefully we can merge the patch as targeted tomorrow ...19:16
catherineDmoving on ....19:16
sslypushenkocatherineD:  I will19:16
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catherineDsslypushenko: thx19:16
catherineDassuming we will be able to merge the two patches to  feature/vendor branch tomorrow19:17
catherineDour next target is  to merge feature/vendor branch to master: Oct 14, 2016 ....19:17
catherineDthat will give us one week before the summit  ...19:18
catherineDcurrently we plan to publish the vendor/product registration code to https://refstack.openstack.org/#/ on Monday Oct 1719:19
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catherineDwe have a very tight schedule ...19:20
sslypushenkosounds challenging)19:20
catherineDsslypushenko: yup19:20
sslypushenkoI guess now refstack is getting extra attention because of interop challenge19:21
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sslypushenkoso maybe release on Monday is not so good idea)19:22
catherineDsslypushenko: yea ... it would be more meaningful for refstack to associate data to vendor/product19:22
catherineDsslypushenko: because of more people using it?19:22
sslypushenkoyeap19:22
catherineDFrom users point of view , it is good to release on Friday (over the weekend) ... but from support point of view ... we do not have infra suppor during the weekend19:23
catherineDon the last release we actaully need someone on infra to do some taks on the server due to server  package change ...19:24
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catherineDsslypushenko: I do see your concern though19:26
sslypushenkocatherineD:   you are right19:26
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catherineDLet try to meet the other target dates  first those have no impact to the website19:27
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catherineDlet move on19:28
catherineD#topic Waiver19:28
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catherineDthe spec had merged19:28
catherineD#link     Implemenation: Added Defcore additional properties waiver  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370534/19:29
catherineDwe need to review this patch ..19:29
catherineDluzC: what is the priority of this patch?  Does it need to be landed before the summit?19:29
luzCno, I don't think so, I consider it low priority19:30
catherineDluzC: OK that  is good .... if so let's target this after the summit since we are so busy with the vendor target dates ...19:31
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luzCyes19:31
catherineDluzC: thank you ...19:31
catherineD#topic Open discussion19:32
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catherineDany other thoughts?19:32
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catherineDif not we will have a shot meeting today ... before we go .... please do review any patch put up for feature/vendor branch so we can meet our target dates ...19:34
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catherineDsslypushenko: thx for merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381232/  !19:35
sslypushenkocatherineD:  np at all)19:35
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catherineDthat is it for today's meeting .... thank you all !!19:35
catherineD#endmeeting19:36
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