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| moshele | anyone for SR-IOV meeting? | 13:05 |
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| lbeliveau | me ! | 13:05 |
| moshele | #startmeeting sriov | 13:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 13:05:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is moshele. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sriov' | 13:05 |
| moshele | hi everyone | 13:05 |
| saneax | o/ | 13:06 |
| lbeliveau | hi | 13:06 |
| skramaja | hello | 13:06 |
| moshele | #topic Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Improving SR-IOV/PCI Passthrough CI (Meeting topic: sriov)" | 13:06 | |
| lennyb | hi | 13:06 |
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| moshele | so we have a few patches with no tempest core review :( | 13:06 |
| moshele | I will try to ping them in infra today | 13:07 |
| lbeliveau | we should ping mriedem about it, hopefully he has some contacts there | 13:07 |
| lennyb | I was trying to catch gmann or jordanP, but got no answer from them | 13:07 |
| moshele | mellanox multinode ci comment on the pci allocation patch | 13:08 |
| moshele | http://13.69.151.247/83/328983/21/check-mlnx-multinode/Nova-ML2-Sriov-Multinode/fca880b/ | 13:08 |
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| moshele | and the migration test passed which is cool | 13:08 |
| moshele | http://13.69.151.247/83/328983/21/check-mlnx-multinode/Nova-ML2-Sriov-Multinode/fca880b/testr_results.html.gz | 13:09 |
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| moshele | #topic bug fixes | 13:09 |
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| moshele | so jaypipes review the migration revert and the pci allocation | 13:10 |
| lbeliveau | working on addressing the comments | 13:10 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: so you are splitting the migration revert patch to 2 patches? | 13:11 |
| moshele | do you need help with some of the work? | 13:11 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: yes that's the plan, but working on moving the unit test for pci allocation (which is painful for some reason) | 13:11 |
| lbeliveau | moshele: will ping you if I need helpm thanks | 13:12 |
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| moshele | ok cool | 13:12 |
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| moshele | anything else on bug fixes? | 13:12 |
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| lbeliveau | not from me | 13:13 |
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| moshele | #topic specs for review | 13:13 |
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| moshele | this is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342001/ the Support SR-IOV and PCI statistics through Nova API | 13:14 |
| moshele | we should review it again | 13:14 |
| lbeliveau | need to review the latest version ... | 13:14 |
| moshele | yes | 13:14 |
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| moshele | we can use it for the future to improve migration testing | 13:15 |
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| moshele | anyone have any other spec/issue to | 13:16 |
| skramaja | an update on the ironic spec related to setting kernel args to grub - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331564/ | 13:16 |
| skramaja | this proposal has been turned down as ironic should not change the image files.. | 13:16 |
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| skramaja | we are looking at other options to set the kernel args.. | 13:16 |
| skramaja | like using the user_data from tripleo.. | 13:16 |
| skramaja | this is related to SR-IOV tripleo spec. | 13:17 |
| skramaja | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313872/ | 13:17 |
| jaypipes | lbeliveau: just lemme know when you push the split patches and I will review ASAP. | 13:17 |
| lbeliveau | jaypipes: will do, struggling to move the pci allocation unit test atm | 13:18 |
| moshele | jaypipes: thank :) | 13:18 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: if you want I can do the split | 13:18 |
| jaypipes | lbeliveau: there is already an existing one in test_tracker.py I believe. You should just be able to copy/paste a new specialized one or adapt the existing one for your needs. | 13:19 |
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| lbeliveau | moshele: will ping you after the meeting | 13:19 |
| moshele | lbeliveau: ok | 13:19 |
| moshele | skramaja: what about the vendor_id/product_id port info for ironic | 13:19 |
| lbeliveau | jaypipes: yes, I clone the pci test you did and trying to adapt it to migration | 13:20 |
| moshele | skramaja: do you have a spec for this ? | 13:20 |
| jaypipes | lbeliveau: gotcha. well, if you're stuck, feel free to just push up what you have and I can take a looksie. | 13:20 |
| skramaja | i guess it is part of your review.. right? | 13:21 |
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| lbeliveau | jaypipes: awesome, thanks ! mock is acting weird on me with this ut | 13:21 |
| skramaja | which spec? for triploe spec or ironic spec? | 13:21 |
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| jaypipes | lbeliveau: yeah, understood. it's complex to be sure. | 13:21 |
| moshele | skramaja: I mean this rfe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-python-agent/+bug/1594196 | 13:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1594201 in ironic-python-agent "duplicate for #1594196 [RFE] Update Port's extra field with vendor data" [Wishlist,Incomplete] - Assigned to yogananth subramanian (anantyog-o) | 13:22 |
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| skramaja | we are not writing spec.. since it was merged into ur review, we dont need to.. | 13:23 |
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| skramaja | *we thought, we dont need to do | 13:23 |
| moshele | skramaja: ok I will ping you later about this | 13:24 |
| skramaja | ok.. sure.. | 13:24 |
| skramaja | thanks moshele | 13:24 |
| moshele | anything else regarding SR-IOV spec | 13:24 |
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| skramaja | nothing from us as of now.. | 13:24 |
| moshele | #endmeeting | 13:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 13:25:08 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-07-26-13.05.html | 13:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-07-26-13.05.txt | 13:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sriov/2016/sriov.2016-07-26-13.05.log.html | 13:25 |
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| shardy | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 14:00:17 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is shardy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
| shardy | #topic rollcall | 14:00 |
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| weshay | 0/ | 14:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:00 |
| trown | o/ | 14:00 |
| coolsvap | o/ | 14:00 |
| bandini | o/ | 14:00 |
| shardy | Hey all, who's around? | 14:00 |
| adarazs | o/ | 14:00 |
| derekh | o/ | 14:00 |
| bswartz | ¬_¬ | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 14:00 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:00 |
| gfidente | o/ | 14:00 |
| marios | o/ | 14:00 |
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| ccamacho | o/ | 14:01 |
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| slagle | hi | 14:01 |
| bswartz | \o/ | 14:01 |
| shardy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 14:01 |
| shardy | #topic agenda | 14:01 |
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| shardy | * one off agenda items | 14:01 |
| shardy | * bugs | 14:01 |
| shardy | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:01 |
| shardy | * CI | 14:01 |
| shardy | * Specs | 14:01 |
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| shardy | * open discussion | 14:01 |
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| shardy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:02 |
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| shardy | If anyone has any one-off items, feel free to add them to the etherpad | 14:02 |
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| shardy | So far we've got two | 14:02 |
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| shardy | #topic One-off items | 14:02 |
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| shardy | ccamacho: would you like to start? | 14:03 |
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| ccamacho | Sure | 14:03 |
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| saneax | Hi All | 14:03 |
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| ccamacho | Working with composable mistral Im getting some random mem issues, so the questions is if those new services should be | 14:03 |
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| shardy | So I agree we need to stop the memory usage creep | 14:04 |
| ccamacho | added enabled by default or not | 14:04 |
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| shardy | one of the nice things about composable services is that we can now add things disabled by default | 14:04 |
| shardy | there are a couple of issues though | 14:04 |
| ccamacho | the thing is those are not enabled by default, how should we test that at least they are being installed properly? | 14:04 |
| shardy | 1. How to ensure CI coverage of disabled-by-default things | 14:04 |
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| gfidente | ccamacho, fwiw the trove submission just passed but is in same situation https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233240/ , we need to understand if we want to enable it by default or not | 14:04 |
| ccamacho | yeahp | 14:04 |
| shardy | 2. How to allow users to easily enable them | 14:04 |
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| shardy | (2) will be helped by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330414/ which ramishra is working on | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | we might want to start different scenarios deployment | 14:05 |
| shardy | but for now we've been hacking in OS::Heat::None definitions to disable things in e.g ControllerServices | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | we could reuse multinode job and have different environments | 14:05 |
| ccamacho | mmm I see, I was thinking in adding a parameter disabling it and using an env file overriding this parameter | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | by scenarios I mean: https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration#description | 14:05 |
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| shardy | ccamacho: I think the end plan here is to allow multiple environments, each which have a fragment of ControllerServices inside | 14:06 |
| bnemec | This just sounds like something we need to add to the CI matrix. | 14:06 |
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| shardy | so you can build up one big list of services | 14:06 |
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| shardy | bnemec: Yup, I guess the question is how do we handle it, when new services are being proposed all the time | 14:06 |
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| marios | we could have a policy of at least a test ci run with the service enabled (like for manila) but it isn't automated obviously | 14:06 |
| shardy | maybe we can have some kind of living document, or CI generated matrix that shows where we cover each service, e.g in which jobs? | 14:06 |
| trown | couldnt we just emulate puppet scenarios? | 14:07 |
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| trown | we wont be adding anything that is not already in a puppet scenario | 14:07 |
| shardy | marios: Yeah, but we found out the hard way with Sahara what happens when you merge something that's not always CI tested | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | shardy: right, like we do in Puppet CI (have you seen my link?) | 14:07 |
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| marios | shardy: ack, just saying, in the absence of automated testing/until then we make it a rule/add to reviewer guidelines doc (we have a spec somewhere right) | 14:08 |
| shardy | EmilienM: aha, yes, something like that would be ideal | 14:08 |
| trown | shardy: EmilienM, why not use *exactly* that | 14:08 |
| shardy | marios: sure, I guess having passed CI once is better than having passed it never ;) | 14:08 |
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| trown | as in the exact matrix | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | it's a lot of jobs | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | we can start by iteration maybe and add a second scenario | 14:09 |
| trown | they would all be multinode nodepool ones though ya? | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | yes | 14:09 |
| gfidente | I am not sure about the scenarios, if we need more nodes just to cover more services, can't we just increase the overcloud ram and deploy all services in a single job? | 14:09 |
| trown | we are not testing undercloud for those | 14:09 |
| slagle | we could use periodic jobs as well | 14:10 |
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| shardy | gfidente: that's certainly an option, but we'd need a way to keep the list of "all" services up to date | 14:10 |
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| bnemec | gfidente: That's true, we would conceivably have the ability to deploy different environments. | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | mhh, periodic job is good but also uncertain people watch it | 14:10 |
| shardy | because the conversation started with not wanted everything always enabled | 14:10 |
| bnemec | We're no longer locked into all the environments being identical (in fact, they aren't today). | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | what's the worker count on CI runs? | 14:11 |
| shardy | EmilienM: we need to surface the results better, e.g via a page on tripleo.org | 14:11 |
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| bnemec | shardy: Wouldn't the allinone config live in tht? I thought we had all pretty much agreed with that on the list. | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | we're surely not running load testing there so would it make sense to just limit all services to 1 worker in CI? | 14:11 |
| bnemec | jokke_: We already do that. | 14:11 |
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| shardy | bnemec: Yeah, it was more how we handle having aio_one_node.yaml, and controller_enable_everything.yaml etc | 14:12 |
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| bnemec | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/tree/test-environments/worker-config.yaml | 14:12 |
| shardy | maybe we can add some validation checks to tht to ensure they're updated | 14:12 |
| shardy | probably be easy enough | 14:12 |
| bnemec | +1 | 14:12 |
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| jokke_ | bnemec: ach :( | 14:13 |
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| shardy | Ok, so it sounds like the consensus is we need to start landing things disabled by default, and work on improving the test matrix/coverage | 14:13 |
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| shardy | ccamacho: anything else to add on this before we move on? | 14:13 |
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| ccamacho | ack thanks! | 14:13 |
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| shardy | I'll follow up with Rabi re the heat feature to enable composable Services lists | 14:14 |
| shardy | (he's already posted a WIP patch) | 14:14 |
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| shardy | #info need to start landing things disabled by default, and work on improving the test matrix/coverage | 14:14 |
| shardy | Ok so the next one is mine | 14:14 |
| shardy | I've started pushing up patches working towards custom-roles: | 14:15 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open++topic:bp/custom-roles | 14:15 |
| shardy | basically it's a big refactor moving role specific things out of overcloud.yaml | 14:15 |
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| shardy | followed by switching to a jinja templated overcloud.yaml | 14:15 |
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| shardy | I had been blocking on the mistral deployment stuff, so we can wire in jinja via a mistral action | 14:16 |
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| shardy | but instead, decided to rebase the series so we can start landing the refactoring | 14:16 |
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| shardy | any help with reviews would be great, it's going to be at least 20 or so patches I think | 14:16 |
| shardy | I'm trying to keep them fairly small | 14:16 |
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| EmilienM | good approach | 14:16 |
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| shardy | One question is what we do with the inconsistent names long term | 14:16 |
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| shardy | e.g controllerImage and NovaImage | 14:17 |
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| EmilienM | maybe we can provide an upgrade path | 14:18 |
| shardy | for now, I'm assuming we leave those alone, and just move them into the per-role templates | 14:18 |
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| shardy | but later, we may want to deprecate them and move to more consistent naming, e.g ComputeImage and ControllerImage | 14:18 |
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| shardy | EmilienM: Yeah, we don't have a good way to do that atm | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | with j2 templates we should be able to standardilize them and still pick the old ones if the new one is not present | 14:18 |
| slagle | i'd think we need to at least deprecate them before removing them | 14:18 |
| shardy | maybe another heat feature to enable deprecated names (similar to how oslo.config does it) with a warning | 14:18 |
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| shardy | jokke_: The j2 templating happens before you get parameters from the user | 14:19 |
| bnemec | shardy: Yes please. | 14:19 |
| shardy | Ok, so I think we'll probably run out of time for the heat feature this cycle, but I can look into it and chat to those who may have time to work on it | 14:19 |
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| jokke_ | shardy: what's the point on that? So we generate out of templates with default values and then overwrite them with the user ones? | 14:20 |
| shardy | are people OK if we get the first cut of custom roles done maintaining the old parameter naming, for compatibility? | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | yes | 14:20 |
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| bnemec | shardy: Doesn't sound like we have much choice for now. | 14:20 |
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| shardy | jokke_: So you can generate a template that will deploy a "ContrailController" cluster, or dedicated cluster for DB etc | 14:20 |
| bnemec | We don't have the ability to deprecate, and we can't just remove the old names. | 14:21 |
| shardy | jokke_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315679/19 shows the approach | 14:21 |
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| shardy | it's only dynamic in as much as it enables user defined roles beyond the 5 we support by default | 14:21 |
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| shardy | bnemec: well, there are hacks we could do in the templates | 14:21 |
| gfidente | shardy, just to be sure, you're only talking about the parameter name, or the nova instance name as well? | 14:22 |
| shardy | like adding the old and new parameters, then joining them | 14:22 |
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| jokke_ | shardy: gotche | 14:22 |
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| shardy | but we'd need to invent our own warnings method, such as having a "deprecated" parameter_group | 14:22 |
| shardy | I actually started adding such a group in a few places, but I'm not sure if it's the best approach | 14:22 |
| shardy | gfidente: Only the parameter names | 14:23 |
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| shardy | Anyway, feedback welcome on the reviews - I'm hoping we can iterate fairly fast to make the n3 deadline | 14:23 |
| shardy | bandini: NG HA update? | 14:23 |
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| bandini | sure | 14:23 |
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| bandini | Just a short update on the HA Next Generation work. | 14:24 |
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| bandini | Testing has been fairly good so far and QE is internally playing with it now since more than a week. | 14:24 |
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| bandini | I discussed with gfidente a bit how we can make the landing of it a bit easier. We came up with a very non/low-invasive plan with small changes. | 14:24 |
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| bandini | It will require aodh profile stuff to land (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333556) and a couple of other reviews that are quite independent of the HA NG specifics. | 14:24 |
| bandini | Namely: | 14:24 |
| bandini | nova constraints moving to their respective profiles: https://review.openstack.org/347309 https://review.openstack.org/347310 | 14:24 |
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| bandini | fake openstack-core role: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347315/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347314/ | 14:25 |
| bandini | Once those are landed the remaining work is minuscule (couple of lines, puppet settings). | 14:25 |
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| bandini | That's all from my side. Are there any questions/concerns on this work in general? | 14:25 |
| saneax | Folks regarding adding the ovs-dpdk to tripleo, we have made good progress | 14:25 |
| shardy | bandini: when we switch to non-pacemaker for many services, is the plan to remove the pacemaker templates/profiles for those services? | 14:25 |
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| bandini | I can also make a more detailed report on the ML if IRC is not the best medium ;) | 14:26 |
| shardy | when we're confident it all works obviously :) | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | bandini: ++ for ML | 14:26 |
| bandini | shardy: yeah. correct | 14:26 |
| bandini | EmilienM: ack, will do | 14:26 |
| shardy | bandini: A ML thread would be good, with a list of patches (or a link to an etherpad with those links) | 14:26 |
| shardy | thanks | 14:26 |
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| bandini | EmilienM: do you have a very rough ETA for the aodh profile work? | 14:26 |
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| shardy | gfidente: did you add the HCI ceph item? | 14:26 |
| bandini | just a ballpark figure | 14:26 |
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| gfidente | shardy, I did yes, wanted to give a justification to https://review.openstack.org/346897, which is using a dedicated ceph storage node as we used to do before | 14:27 |
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| shardy | The synchronized steps also depends on landing aodh, and removing the last few things from puppet/manifests/* | 14:27 |
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| gfidente | yeah so the submissions to deploy ceph/jewel HCI are all up, the top-most is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/338088/ | 14:28 |
| shardy | gfidente: ack, I think we'll want to test HCI and a dedicated CephStorage node anyway tbh | 14:28 |
| gfidente | yet it only works if we add a depends_on for the compute role on controller, which we clearly don't want | 14:28 |
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| gfidente | shardy, right, so until the synchronization is sorted and we can move to HCI, we're stuck with 'dedicated' node | 14:29 |
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| shardy | gfidente: I think we can generate the per-step deployments in overcloud.yaml as part of the custom-roles work | 14:29 |
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| shardy | but first we need the various per-role manifests to be empty I think, so we only use step_config | 14:30 |
| gfidente | shardy, ack, will be helping there with reviews or as I can | 14:30 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/manifests/overcloud_compute.pp | 14:30 |
| shardy | is anyone looking at removing these last few bits from the manifests, EmilienM perhaps? | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | yes | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | but I still need help with the last nova bits | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | ::nova specially | 14:30 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/manifests/overcloud_controller.pp | 14:30 |
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| EmilienM | https://review.openstack.org/325983 and https://review.openstack.org/328347 | 14:31 |
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| EmilienM | I have troubles to make it working | 14:31 |
| Guest_48743 | Allah is doing | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | I also took over Aodh | 14:31 |
| Guest_48743 | sun is not doing Allah is doing | 14:31 |
| shardy | EmilienM: Ok, thanks, we can get some reviews on there and hopefully get those working | 14:31 |
| Guest_48743 | moon is not doing Allah is doing | 14:31 |
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| Guest_48743 | stars are not doing Allah is doing | 14:31 |
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| Guest_48743 | planets are not doing Allah is doing | 14:31 |
| shardy | gfidente: Ok, anything else on this before we move on? | 14:32 |
| Guest_48743 | galaxies are not doing Allah is doing | 14:32 |
| gfidente | shardy, nope, good for me unless there are questions | 14:32 |
| hrybacki | can we boot the bot? | 14:32 |
| Guest_48743 | oceans are not doing Allah is doing | 14:32 |
| EmilienM | I asked on infra channel | 14:32 |
| Guest_48743 | mountains are not doing Allah is doing | 14:32 |
| hrybacki | EmilienM++ | 14:32 |
| Guest_48743 | trees are not doing allah is doing | 14:32 |
| gfidente | bots are doing! | 14:32 |
| Guest_48743 | mom is not doing Allah is doing | 14:32 |
| Guest_48743 | dad is not doing Allah is doing | 14:32 |
| Guest_48743 | boss is not doing Allah is doing | 14:32 |
| shardy | skramaja: You have an update re SR-IOV and DPDK? | 14:33 |
| Guest_48743 | job is not doing Allah is doing | 14:33 |
| skramaja | related to SRIOV & DPDK tripleo specs, we have been working on ironic spec for setting the kernel args, but it has got a heavy resistence not to set kernel args via ironic.. instead suggested to use user_data.. | 14:33 |
| Guest_48743 | dollar is not doing Allah is doing | 14:33 |
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| Guest_48743 | degree is not doing Allah is doing | 14:33 |
| Guest_48743 | medicine is not doing Allah is doing | 14:33 |
| skramaja | we wanted to know if there any suggestions or know issues around it.. | 14:33 |
| Guest_48743 | customers are not doing Allah is doing | 14:33 |
| EmilienM | pabelanger: ban Guest_48743 please | 14:33 |
| skramaja | because we need to reboot after setttgint the kernels | 14:33 |
| trown | $var is not doing | 14:33 |
| skramaja | *after settign the kernel args.. | 14:33 |
| bandini | trown: lolz | 14:34 |
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| shardy | /ignore ftw | 14:34 |
| skramaja | would like to know if any suggestions around it.. | 14:34 |
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| skramaja | ironc spec - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331564/ | 14:34 |
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| pabelanger | Hmm | 14:35 |
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| shardy | skramaja: you can pass user_data via TripleO, but won't that mean you need to reboot? | 14:35 |
| * jroll sees kernel args stuff and listens in | 14:35 | |
| skramaja | yes.. reboot is needed.. | 14:35 |
| skramaja | thats the concern.. | 14:35 |
| skramaja | kernel args need to be set before os-net-config.. | 14:36 |
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| skramaja | as dpdk driver binding needs those args mandatorily.. | 14:36 |
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| Guest_48743 | you can not get a job without the permission of allah | 14:37 |
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| shardy | skramaja: Ok, well a solution probably is to pass something to cloud init via a firstboot script | 14:37 |
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| Guest_48743 | you can not get married without the permission of allah | 14:37 |
| shardy | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/advanced_deployment/extra_config.html#firstboot-extra-configuration | 14:37 |
| ccamacho | Allah is giving some pain here.. | 14:38 |
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| shardy | however we'll have to be sure puppet doesn't then go and reconfigure them later: | 14:38 |
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| skramaja | shardy: yes.. | 14:38 |
| Guest_48743 | nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah | 14:38 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/services/kernel.yaml | 14:38 |
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| EmilienM | shardy: right, config should only be done by puppet | 14:39 |
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| shardy | EmilienM: but we can't do that here, because puppet won't run before os-net-config | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | ok | 14:39 |
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| skramaja | shardy: do u mean this will affect puppet config? | 14:39 |
| Guest_48743 | light is not doing Allah is doing | 14:39 |
| EmilienM | so we need to sync what is done before and what is done in the tht service | 14:39 |
| Guest_48743 | fan is not doing Allah is doing | 14:39 |
| shardy | skramaja: can you start a ML thread, and we can follow up with details there? | 14:39 |
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| skramaja | ok.. sure.. | 14:39 |
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| shardy | skramaja: I mean if you set some config value via cloud-init then reboot, you don't want puppet to later set it back again | 14:40 |
| Guest_48743 | businessess are not doing Allah is doing | 14:40 |
| Guest_48743 | america is not doing Allah is doing | 14:40 |
| skramaja | ok.. | 14:40 |
| shardy | skramaja: thanks! | 14:40 |
| karthiks | shardy, can we get acceptance on DPDK Spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313871 | 14:40 |
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| Guest_48743 | fire can not burn without the permission of allah | 14:40 |
| Guest_48743 | knife can not cut without the permission of allah | 14:41 |
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| shardy | beagles: you previously reviewed that, can you circle back and vote on it? | 14:41 |
| Guest_48743 | rulers are not doing Allah is doing | 14:41 |
| beagles | shardy: yup | 14:41 |
| Guest_48743 | governments are not doing Allah is doing | 14:41 |
| shardy | karthiks: will revisit it later today, thanks for the reminder | 14:41 |
| Guest_48743 | sleep is not doing Allah is doing | 14:41 |
| Guest_48743 | hunger is not doing Allah is doing | 14:41 |
| shardy | Ok, time to move on as we're running short on time :) | 14:41 |
| karthiks | Thank shardy . | 14:41 |
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| gfidente | pabelanger is not doing | 14:42 |
| shardy | #topic bugs | 14:42 |
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| shardy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 14:42 |
| shardy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/newton-3 | 14:42 |
| Guest_48743 | food does not take away the hunger allah takes away the hunger | 14:42 |
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| Guest_48743 | water does not take away the thirst Allah takes away the thirst | 14:42 |
| Guest_48743 | seeing is not doing Allah is doing | 14:43 |
| shardy | We have 55 bugs targetted at n-3, so help burning down those via prioritizing reviews would be good | 14:43 |
| Guest_48743 | hearing is not doing Allah is doing | 14:43 |
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| Guest_48743 | seasons are not doing Allah is doing | 14:43 |
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| shardy | also please ensure anything you would consider a release blocker gets targetted to n3 | 14:43 |
| shardy | Any other bug related things to discuss? | 14:43 |
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| shardy | #topic Projects releases or stable backports | 14:44 |
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| shardy | So, last week we were waiting on stable CI promotion to cut a stable release | 14:44 |
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| shardy | does anyone have a link to the recent results, has mitaka periodic job passed? | 14:45 |
| shardy | we really need those results on tripleo.org ... | 14:45 |
| * shardy had a link but is failing to find it | 14:45 | |
| slagle | shardy: there's a patch to add it back... | 14:45 |
| slagle | shardy: everything promoted last night i believe | 14:45 |
| slagle | including master | 14:45 |
| shardy | slagle: aha, nice, OK will check that patch then, thanks | 14:46 |
| slagle | https://review.openstack.org/308865 | 14:46 |
| shardy | slagle: great, Ok I'll look at tagging a stable release this week then based on the most recent good promote | 14:46 |
| slagle | there's a script you can use anyway | 14:46 |
| shardy | slagle: ack, thanks | 14:46 |
| EmilienM | shardy: https://dashboards.rdoproject.org/rdo-dev that? | 14:46 |
| slagle | shardy: there was a hiccup in the mirror-server, it ran out of space, but derekh fixed it | 14:46 |
| slagle | so if the promotes didn't happen for liberty/mitaka, we can redo them | 14:46 |
| slagle | master has been promoted however | 14:47 |
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| shardy | EmilienM: Yeah, I've been checking that, but it doesn't show the tripleo stable periodic jobs? | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | shardy: it doesn't, right | 14:47 |
| derekh | ya, I've freed up space and will push a patch later to have it down daily in future | 14:47 |
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| shardy | it's good to check current-tripleo tho | 14:47 |
| EmilienM | shardy: I can work on it for tripleo.org if you want | 14:47 |
| slagle | oh wait, liberty/mitaka doesnt promote does it? | 14:47 |
| slagle | anyway, the latest passed last night | 14:48 |
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| shardy | slagle: No, we just need a green run to base the release on | 14:48 |
| derekh | slagle: correct, we only have promote on master | 14:48 |
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| weshay | looks like periodic mitaka is passing | 14:48 |
| shardy | #topic CI | 14:48 |
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| shardy | (since we're now talking about CI anyway ;) | 14:48 |
| shardy | weshay: is there anything you need from us re the RDO promotion @ 20d ? | 14:48 |
| shardy | we looked into the issue on Friday, which turned out to be quickstart, right? | 14:49 |
| shardy | we should audit to ensure there's nowhere else it's modifying config files managed by puppet... | 14:49 |
| weshay | good question.. we've been very close the last few days.. we keep hitting new valid isssues | 14:49 |
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| slagle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1605876 will need to be fixed | 14:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605876 in tripleo "openstack baremetal import --json instackenv.json fails with "PluginAttributeError: _auth_params"" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brad P. Crochet (brad-9) | 14:49 |
| slagle | since osc removed the private attrs that mistralclient was trying to use | 14:49 |
| slagle | weshay: so that will probably block you (again) next | 14:49 |
| trown | shardy: the problem Friday was PEBKAC it was not quickstart | 14:50 |
| shardy | trown: Ok, the bug said quickstart was modifying ironic.conf on the undercloud, was that correct? | 14:50 |
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| weshay | slagle, I think apevec may have downgraded that package or put in a some kind of a temp workaround | 14:50 |
| * weshay checks | 14:50 | |
| trown | shardy: the problem just before that was a bad instack-undercloud patch... so pointing fingers at configuring a specific to quickstart thing outside of puppet is not helpful | 14:50 |
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| trown | in any case RDO promote will pass today | 14:51 |
| shardy | trown: I'm just restating what was in the bug in an attempt to understand the root cause | 14:51 |
| shardy | nobody is pointing fingers here, and FWIW we all burnt a ton of time helping/investigating | 14:51 |
| EmilienM | yep | 14:51 |
| slagle | bugs have root causes, that's not pointing fingers | 14:51 |
| trown | ya there are 25 issues in the etherpad | 14:51 |
| trown | I have burnt plenty of time | 14:52 |
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| slagle | weshay: yes he did, but that's not going to work given the recent patch to osc | 14:52 |
| shardy | trown: Ok, lets follow up after the meeting, I just want to understand what broke, why, and how we make sure it won't happen again | 14:52 |
| EmilienM | (from tech pov, configuring things outside puppet in tripleo is a bad idea) | 14:52 |
| slagle | weshay: we'll need a proper fix | 14:52 |
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| slagle | thrash: have you been able to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1605876 at all? | 14:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605876 in tripleo "openstack baremetal import --json instackenv.json fails with "PluginAttributeError: _auth_params"" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brad P. Crochet (brad-9) | 14:53 |
| shardy | derekh: Do you have an update re rh1 before we run out of time? | 14:53 |
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| derekh | RE: rh1 - I had a few lines ready to describe progress/problems but time is short so | 14:53 |
| derekh | the main question I think we need to answer is nonha or ha overcloud? | 14:53 |
| derekh | I'm inclined to go for a nonha myself, especially if we have the scripts to the point where we can just redeploy at will | 14:53 |
| derekh | mainly because it will be easier to debug and we don't need to aim for 5 9's in ci | 14:53 |
| thrash | slagle: yeah.. I've actually posted a proposed fix to mistralclient | 14:53 |
| trown | EmilienM: it is 100% specific to quickstart, we have to tell ironic to use unpriviledged libvirt... nobody would use it outside of quickstart | 14:53 |
| bnemec | +1 to nonha | 14:53 |
| slagle | thrash: sweet, thx | 14:53 |
| thrash | slagle: for some reason it's not registering on the bug... | 14:53 |
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| trown | EmilienM: give me a generic hiera interface on the undercloud and I will do it with puppet | 14:54 |
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| thrash | slagle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347354/ | 14:54 |
| slagle | trown: we have that | 14:54 |
| slagle | trown: see hieradata_override in undercloud.conf | 14:54 |
| EmilienM | trown: sure, can I see the code that configure it? so I can look what puppet class it is | 14:54 |
| derekh | shardy: we'd hope to have the cloud readfy befor the end of the week (we'll it better be I'm on PTO next week) | 14:54 |
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| slagle | trown: you can set any hieradata | 14:54 |
| bnemec | \o/ | 14:54 |
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| shardy | derekh: +1 on nonha, and great to hear it's nearly ready | 14:55 |
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| trown | slagle: hmm did not know about that thanks... but we have to support liberty and mitaka too | 14:55 |
| shardy | trown: Yeah, if possible it'd be better to create a quickstart specific hiera override file, that's then configured in undercloud.conf | 14:55 |
| derekh | shardy: ack, I'll post the summary in #tipleo after the meeting | 14:56 |
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| shardy | derekh: nice, thanks! | 14:56 |
| EmilienM | trown: please give me the link of the patch that configure it and I'll see how to do it with puppet/hiera in instack | 14:56 |
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| shardy | Ok, we already discussed some specs, so I'll skip to open discussion | 14:56 |
| shardy | #topic open discussion | 14:57 |
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| shardy | 3 mins | 14:57 |
| karthiks | we need some help in reviewing our patches for SR-IOV and DPDK automation | 14:57 |
| shardy | anyone have anything remaining to discuss (quickly ;) | 14:57 |
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| bswartz | I'm the PTL for manila and I'm very interested in seeing this merge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188137/ | 14:57 |
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| slagle | trown: right, ok. it's possible you cant set this anyway via hiera | 14:57 |
| marios | bswartz: we are close :) | 14:57 |
| bnemec | Just a quick note: it looks like the mistral node registration and introspection is slower than what we had before. We added a few minutes per CI run when that merged. | 14:57 |
| shardy | bswartz: Hi! Yup, I think it's very close now | 14:57 |
| shardy | sorry that it's taken so long | 14:57 |
| bswartz | Also I need to rebase this (very old) patch and I'm looking for help on how to do that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188138/ | 14:58 |
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| skramaja | shardy: we are new to composable roles and we are adding lot of THT for SRIOV and DPDK | 14:58 |
| shardy | bnemec: there's probably some stuff discussed in the bug from friday we can fix tht will help | 14:58 |
| marios | bswartz: i could help out once we land manila generic | 14:58 |
| shardy | like, setting nodes to states then setting them again etc | 14:58 |
| skramaja | it would be great to get earlier feedback.. since we are targetting for n3 | 14:58 |
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| bswartz | thanks marios | 14:58 |
| bnemec | shardy: Ah, that would be good. Trying to figure out why so many jobs are taking >2 hours now. | 14:59 |
| bnemec | That doesn't explain the whole increase, but it's a fair chunk of it. | 14:59 |
| shardy | bswartz: +1 if you can work with marios that would be great | 14:59 |
| EmilienM | skramaja: yeah, we are reviewing it | 14:59 |
| shardy | will need some refactoring I think | 14:59 |
| skramaja | thanks EmilienM.. | 14:59 |
| karthiks | Thanks EmilienM | 14:59 |
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| slagle | bnemec: the workbooks also take a while to load i've noticed | 14:59 |
| bnemec | slagle: At the end of the undercloud install? | 15:00 |
| shardy | Ok, we're out of time -> #tripleo | 15:00 |
| slagle | we lost a minute or so there | 15:00 |
| slagle | bnemec: yes | 15:00 |
| shardy | thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
| shardy | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 15:00:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-26-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-26-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2016/tripleo.2016-07-26-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| ccamacho | Thanks guys! | 15:00 |
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| matrohon | #startmeeting bgpvpn | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 15:02:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matrohon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'bgpvpn' | 15:02 |
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| matrohon | Hi doude pcarver timirnich | 15:06 |
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| matrohon | anybody around for the bgpvpn meeting? | 15:07 |
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| matrohon | tmorin is on vacation, and I just come back from mine | 15:10 |
| matrohon | I didn't have time to get uptodate with what is going on in bgpvpn | 15:11 |
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| matrohon | let's cancel this meeting and have a better one next week | 15:11 |
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| matrohon | #endmeeting | 15:11 |
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| pcarver | hi. I'm around but don't have any topics | 15:11 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 15:11:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-07-26-15.02.html | 15:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-07-26-15.02.txt | 15:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/bgpvpn/2016/bgpvpn.2016-07-26-15.02.log.html | 15:11 |
| matrohon | pcarver, hi, sorry I just closed the meeting :) | 15:12 |
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| pcarver | matrohon: no problem. I was on the phone, but don't have any topics anyway. | 15:12 |
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| hongbin | #startmeeting containers | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 16:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 16:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 16:00 |
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| muralia | Murali Allada | 16:00 |
| strigazi | o/ | 16:00 |
| swatson | o/ | 16:00 |
| Drago | o/ | 16:00 |
| rochaporto | Ricardo Rocha | 16:00 |
| jvgrant_ | Jaycen Grant | 16:00 |
| mkrai | Madhuri Kumari | 16:00 |
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| eghobo | o/ | 16:00 |
| hongbin | Thanks for joining the meeting muralia strigazi swatson Drago rochaporto jvgrant_ mkrai eghobo | 16:01 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-07-26_1600_UTC Today's agenda | 16:01 |
| tonanhngo | o/ | 16:01 |
| hongbin | Anything needs to be added to the agenda? | 16:01 |
| hongbin | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
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| hongbin | I have no annoucement | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | Any annoucement from our team member? | 16:02 |
| hongbin | #topic Review Action Items | 16:02 |
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| hongbin | 1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi) | 16:02 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-baremetal-full-support | 16:02 |
| hongbin | strigazi: ^^ | 16:02 |
| strigazi | Not much progress since last week, I was trying to setup the gate job properly and replicate the issues locally. | 16:03 |
| mkrai | I submitted patches for swarm last week | 16:03 |
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| strigazi | This week I'll test mkrai's patches | 16:04 |
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| mkrai | Thanks strigazi | 16:04 |
| adrian_otto | o/ | 16:04 |
| hongbin | strigazi: Did the gate work properly? | 16:04 |
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| strigazi | no, we have only 8GB or ram and 80GB disk | 16:04 |
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| hongbin | Yes, that is the limitation | 16:05 |
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| strigazi | another issue | 16:05 |
| rochaporto | we might add a couple larger nodes at cern to get this going (still needs setup) | 16:05 |
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| strigazi | the fake ironic nodes were not approachable from ironic conductor | 16:06 |
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| strigazi | The good thing is | 16:07 |
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| strigazi | that the issue with the size of insstance_info will be solved in ironic, I'm helping a developer on than | 16:08 |
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| strigazi | that's all | 16:08 |
| hongbin | Thanks strigazi | 16:08 |
| hongbin | 2. Magnum User Guide for Cloud Operator (tango) | 16:08 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide | 16:08 |
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| hongbin | tonanhngo: ^^ | 16:08 |
| tonanhngo | The section for mesos was merged | 16:08 |
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| tonanhngo | I just revised and update the section for TLS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347077/ | 16:09 |
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| tonanhngo | The section on bay got some feedback, I will update shortly | 16:09 |
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| tonanhngo | I think we got all the major sections, now we can wrap up the minor sections | 16:10 |
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| tonanhngo | and do a round of update on various new features. | 16:10 |
| tonanhngo | So generally, we are in decent shape | 16:10 |
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| hongbin | Yes, we are | 16:11 |
| tonanhngo | That's all I have for now | 16:11 |
| hongbin | Thanks tonanhngo . Question? Comment? | 16:11 |
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| strigazi | After a while we are going to split the guide? | 16:11 |
| strigazi | In smaller sections? | 16:11 |
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| tonanhngo | strigazi: What do you have in mind? | 16:12 |
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| strigazi | eg this configuration option is related to performance https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326428/15/doc/source/userguide.rst | 16:12 |
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| strigazi | we could have a section for futher configuration after the basic installation | 16:12 |
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| strigazi | add lbaas, add barbican | 16:13 |
| tonanhngo | Like tuning? | 16:13 |
| strigazi | yes | 16:13 |
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| strigazi | tuning and features | 16:13 |
| tonanhngo | That's a good idea. | 16:13 |
| strigazi | I mean extra features | 16:13 |
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| tonanhngo | Let's put those ideas on the BP so we can track | 16:13 |
| strigazi | ok | 16:14 |
| strigazi | thanks | 16:14 |
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| hongbin | OK. Advance topic | 16:14 |
| hongbin | 3. COE Bay Drivers (jamie_h, muralia) | 16:14 |
| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/bay-drivers | 16:14 |
| hongbin | muralia: ^^ | 16:14 |
| muralia | I don't any major updates. I need to do a lot more testing. Especially around installing a new driver and using it. | 16:14 |
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| muralia | just working on that. Will have more updates soon. | 16:15 |
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| hongbin | muralia: I saw a few patches were merged | 16:15 |
| hongbin | muralia: maybe update the team which parts are done, which parts are TODO | 16:15 |
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| strigazi | muralia: Could I continue this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/324470/ ? | 16:16 |
| strigazi | It will us clean things up | 16:16 |
| strigazi | It will help us clean things up | 16:16 |
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| muralia | yes, the patches that got merged move the common and driver files to the driver folder. basically the refactor part is done | 16:16 |
| muralia | whats remaining is the integration with stevedore | 16:17 |
| muralia | strigazi: yes, you can work on that | 16:17 |
| strigazi | thanks | 16:17 |
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| strigazi | about refactoring, I have a question/comment | 16:17 |
| muralia | yes | 16:17 |
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| strigazi | there is this change up for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346209/ | 16:18 |
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| strigazi | I think it's very large and without planing and discussion with the team | 16:18 |
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| hongbin | strigazi: I think you can relay your comments to the reviews | 16:19 |
| strigazi | moving lbaas was a work done by Drago who wrote this part and hence it was done carefully | 16:19 |
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| Drago | I think at the least the patch should be split up a little | 16:19 |
| strigazi | That I want to say is, we should start a discussion on who to avoid code duplication with the bay drivers | 16:19 |
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| muralia | yes, lets add all these comments in the patch | 16:20 |
| strigazi | *on how | 16:20 |
| strigazi | ok, I'll add it also as discussion topic for the midcycle | 16:20 |
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| hongbin | How to avoid code duplication between drivers is a good topic for midcycle | 16:20 |
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| Drago | I have added "Supporting the install of bay drivers that use different versions of the common directory" which is very similar | 16:21 |
| muralia | hongbin: yes, let me add that to the etherpad. strigazi, we should be ok to move duplicated files to the common folder | 16:21 |
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| tonanhngo | There is some cleaning up we can do also after the bay driver refactoring. | 16:21 |
| Drago | Because that is the issue we face when we start de-duplicating | 16:21 |
| rajiv_ | I found some more code duplicacy in heat templates also. | 16:21 |
| strigazi | Drago, didn't see it, thanks | 16:21 |
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| muralia | de-duplicating files for the 4 drivers that come by default with magnum should be fine. | 16:21 |
| rajiv_ | may be we can refactor heat templates also. | 16:22 |
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| hongbin | OK. any other comment? | 16:22 |
| strigazi | We should discuss how this is going to happen first | 16:23 |
| rajiv_ | ok | 16:23 |
| hongbin | 4. Create a magnum installation guide (strigazi) | 16:23 |
| muralia | yes, its been added as a topic to the mid-cycle agenda | 16:23 |
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| hongbin | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-installation-guide | 16:23 |
| hongbin | strigazi: ^^ | 16:23 |
| strigazi | The guide is complete and merged for the 4 distros documented across all projects. | 16:24 |
| hongbin | Yes, I think we can close the BP | 16:24 |
| tonanhngo | Very nice! | 16:24 |
| hongbin | strigazi: are you able to close the BP? | 16:25 |
| strigazi | we can leave it until the end of the cycle | 16:25 |
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| strigazi | because I'll have to test it again | 16:25 |
| adrian_otto | thanks strigazi for all your work on the install guides. | 16:25 |
| strigazi | the functionality might change | 16:25 |
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| strigazi | But, we can remove it from the meeting agenda | 16:25 |
| hongbin | strigazi: OK. Will do that | 16:26 |
| strigazi | I'll work again when the official packages are ready | 16:26 |
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| strigazi | adrian_otto: It was my pleasure | 16:27 |
| hongbin | strigazi: Thanks strigazi | 16:27 |
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| hongbin | Next topic | 16:27 |
| hongbin | #topic Kuryr Integration Update (tango) | 16:27 |
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| hongbin | tonanhngo: ^^ | 16:27 |
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| tonanhngo | I attended the IRC last night but the meeting didn't occur | 16:27 |
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| tonanhngo | There is some discussion on the ML for a new meeting time, so I will keep an eye on that | 16:28 |
| tonanhngo | The code refactoring is still not complete, so we can't quite build yet. I am still using the old copy | 16:28 |
| tonanhngo | For us it should be OK, since we will just pull the container image for Kuryr | 16:28 |
| tonanhngo | I do have the openvswitch and L2 agent working in a Fedora 23 container in Swarm | 16:29 |
| hongbin | cool | 16:29 |
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| tonanhngo | I just register the new BP with some details on the implementation | 16:29 |
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| tonanhngo | I will wrap up the prototype and start the patches | 16:30 |
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| tonanhngo | One question for the team, I think this was brought up before. | 16:30 |
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| tonanhngo | Should we upload custom container image to Docker Hub, for Magnum use? | 16:31 |
| tonanhngo | We can implement the openvswitch container as Dockerfile, but a ready built image would be faster | 16:31 |
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| muralia | +1 | 16:32 |
| hongbin | For me, it is fine. | 16:32 |
| strigazi | tonanhngo: This will raise the same issue I had with rexray | 16:32 |
| tonanhngo | Is there a Magnum user account already on Docker Hub? | 16:32 |
| strigazi | yes but we don't know the owner | 16:33 |
| strigazi | it's openstackmagnum | 16:33 |
| tonanhngo | Should we try to find the owner, or just create a new account? | 16:33 |
| hongbin | We can create a new one with different name | 16:33 |
| strigazi | We can do both | 16:33 |
| tonanhngo | OK, let me send to the ML to ask first | 16:33 |
| tonanhngo | If no answer, we can create a new account | 16:34 |
| tonanhngo | That's all I have for now | 16:34 |
| hongbin | Thanks tonanhngo | 16:34 |
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| adrian_otto | I don't know who controls the "openstackmagnum" hub.docker.com account. | 16:34 |
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| hongbin | me either | 16:35 |
| adrian_otto | but whatever accounts we have, I suggest that it be held only by the PTL, and transferred to the next PTL upon any change in control. | 16:35 |
| hongbin | Let's find the owner in ML | 16:36 |
| hongbin | adrian_otto: sure | 16:36 |
| hongbin | Any other comment? | 16:36 |
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| hongbin | #topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas | 16:37 |
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| adrian_otto | and there should be reviewed instructions for how to verify those images, so the fear of tampering can be addressed. | 16:37 |
| hongbin | 1. Select our project mascot/logo | 16:37 |
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| hongbin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/100011.html | 16:37 |
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| hongbin | Proposed mascots: | 16:37 |
| hongbin | Stallion - http://free-icon-download.com/modules/PDdownloads/singlefile.php?cid=11&lid=44 | 16:38 |
| hongbin | Snake - http://www.freeiconspng.com/uploads/snake-jungle-22.png | 16:38 |
| tcammann | Think we should have a Magnum Moose | 16:38 |
| hongbin | Wave - http://www.123rf.com/photo_11649085_set-of-waves.html | 16:38 |
| hongbin | Paraponera clavata - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraponera_clavata | 16:38 |
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| hongbin | Bombardier beetle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_beetle | 16:38 |
| hongbin | shark - http://www.logoground.com/logo.php?id=10554 | 16:38 |
| hongbin | kangaroo with a joey in its pouch - http://www.supercoloring.com/pages/red-kangaroo | 16:38 |
| hongbin | koala bear with a joey in its pouch - http://web.stanford.edu/~jay/koalas/koala%20mums.jpg | 16:38 |
| hongbin | beaver - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beaver_%28PSF%29.jpg | 16:38 |
| hongbin | tcammann: what is Magnum Moose? picture? | 16:39 |
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| tcammann | majestic moose https://images.indiegogo.com/file_attachments/1328366/files/20150326083908-Mooselaughing.jpg?1427384348 | 16:39 |
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| jvgrant_ | Kangaroo, Stallion, and shark are my favorites so far, though a moose might be pretty cool | 16:39 |
| Drago | My question is, should we have it relate to what magnum does or where it gets its name? Or does it matter at all? | 16:40 |
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| Drago | i.e. what significance does the mascot have to Magnum | 16:40 |
| hongbin | tcammann: +1 | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | Drago: it can be any animal or natural feature. | 16:40 |
| jvgrant_ | it can relate but it doesn't have to | 16:40 |
| adrian_otto | The actual story of the magnum name can't be connected in this case. Our name came from a Magnum of Champagne. | 16:41 |
| tcammann | I like the waves one as it relates to whales (docker) | 16:41 |
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| rajiv_ | +1 wave | 16:41 |
| mkrai | I like tonanhngo idea of kangaroo carrying joey in its pouch | 16:41 |
| rochaporto | waves, kangaroo, moose (in this order) | 16:41 |
| jvgrant_ | they have an artist who will make an icon that has a similar style to all the others in Openstack | 16:41 |
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| adrian_otto | Shark, Waves, Kangaroo, Moose | 16:41 |
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| jvgrant_ | if what they have on the site is the style they will be cartoony like drawings | 16:42 |
| strigazi | something related to the sea since we have bays | 16:42 |
| mkrai | As it can relate to kangaroo being magnum carrying containers(joey) | 16:42 |
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| tcammann | more "badass" waves http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/as/original/DP130155.jpg | 16:42 |
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| tonanhngo | How are we going to choose with so many choices? :) | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | we only need to identify a short list | 16:43 |
| Drago | Waves makes me think Hawaii (Magnum P.I.) | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | by tomorrow | 16:43 |
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| hongbin | Yes, let's get a short list first | 16:43 |
| adrian_otto | so maybe if three of us can agree on an item being on the list, then it makes it in? | 16:44 |
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| adrian_otto | and we can use whatever formal voting process to narrow it down form there | 16:44 |
| jvgrant_ | Looks like Waves, Kangaroo, Shark, and Moose are top so far | 16:45 |
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| hongbin | jvgrant_: yes | 16:45 |
| adrian_otto | so if you feel strongly about adding to that list, make your case. | 16:45 |
| hongbin | Yes, let's assume here is the list : Waves, Kangaroo, Shark, and Moose | 16:46 |
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| hongbin | If you want to add to this list, let me know by the end of today | 16:46 |
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| tonanhngo | Sounds good. | 16:47 |
| hongbin | The, I will send the list to OpenStack foundation | 16:47 |
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| hongbin | OK. Anything else for this topic? | 16:47 |
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| hongbin | 2. Midcycle topics | 16:48 |
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| hongbin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-newton-midcycle-topics | 16:48 |
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| hongbin | For everyone, please feel free to add your topics, and +1 on the existing topics if you want | 16:48 |
| hongbin | We can collaborate on the etherpad offline | 16:49 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 16:49 |
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| yatin | my small query: for magnum there are lot of bugs that are open and those seems invalid. Some bugs are there which do not have description at all. Can someone from core reviewers mark them invalid/won't fix. This will narrow down the bug list of magnum and this will result in closing the | 16:50 |
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| tonanhngo | +1 | 16:50 |
| Drago | +1 | 16:50 |
| hongbin | yatin: good suggestion | 16:50 |
| rajiv_ | +1 | 16:50 |
| hongbin | I think the core team can do that | 16:50 |
| tonanhngo | Maybe a good session for the midcycle | 16:51 |
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| strigazi | +1 | 16:51 |
| Drago | The pod/container bugs should be easy | 16:51 |
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| rochaporto | i would like to simplify the user commands to create a baymodel/bay by making most of the params optional (external-network, keypair, image, dns-nameserver). in most cases these are not needed, coe (bay driver) specific or better defined by the operator (in the service config). blueprint first or should i go for a patch? | 16:51 |
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| tonanhngo | I would suggest BP first, since this involves the user experience | 16:52 |
| hongbin | rochaporto: I think both bugs and BP will work | 16:52 |
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| rochaporto | ok | 16:52 |
| hongbin | I think it is a good idea | 16:53 |
| hongbin | We need to hard-code the default value to read the default value from config file | 16:53 |
| hongbin | but the direction is OK for me. | 16:54 |
| rochaporto | ok i'll work on this | 16:54 |
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| hongbin | If nobody else has a topic, I want to raise this one: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331614/ | 16:54 |
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| hongbin | In the patch, there is a discussion about whether Magnum needs a feature to disallow duplicate bay/baymodel name | 16:55 |
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| hongbin | Some folks think this feature is unnecessary, others think the opposite | 16:56 |
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| muralia | all openstack services allow duplicate names today, so i prefer to not merging this patch | 16:56 |
| hongbin | muralia: ack | 16:56 |
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| rajiv_ | muralia: +1 | 16:57 |
| tonanhngo | My concern is that it can cause confusion and degrade the user experience with Magnum. | 16:57 |
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| akhilakishore | I have a question, I' having trouble creating bay behind proxy | 16:57 |
| akhilakishore | http://paste.openstack.org/show/542148/ | 16:57 |
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| adrian_otto | tonanhngo: can you detail the scenario(s) you are concerned about? | 16:58 |
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| akhilakishore | It says create in progress and times out | 16:58 |
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| hongbin | akhilakishore: Please ping us in the #openstack-containers channel offline. I believe someone will help you to troubleshoot that | 16:59 |
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| rochaporto | akhilakishore: that's often the callback to heat (for the wait condition) failing. check the heat nodes are reachable from your vms | 16:59 |
| mkrai | akhilakishore, It would be better if you show us baymodel parameters | 16:59 |
| akhilakishore | Oh ok | 16:59 |
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| hongbin | 1 minute left | 16:59 |
| rajiv_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1605416 i want to discuss this bug | 17:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1605416 in Magnum "neutron loadbalancer uses incorrect security group" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to rajiv (rajiv-kumar) | 17:00 |
| hongbin | Time is up. Let' move the discussion to the project channel | 17:00 |
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| adrian_otto | time up | 17:00 |
| hongbin | Thanks everyone | 17:00 |
| tonanhngo | adrian_otto: I mentioned in the comment. Basically different clouds can be configured to behave differently with respect to duplicate name, and which baymodel is referenced. | 17:00 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 17:00:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-07-26-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-07-26-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| yatin | Thanks | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2016/containers.2016-07-26-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| Nikolay_St | #startmeeting murano | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 17:00:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Nikolay_St. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:01 |
| Nikolay_St | hi all | 17:01 |
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| lexplua | o/ | 17:01 |
| vakovalchuk | o/ | 17:01 |
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| tlashchova_ | o/ | 17:01 |
| osh_ | \o/ | 17:01 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev_ws is on vacation, so today I'm the chairman. Mwahaha | 17:01 |
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| Nikolay_St | AFAIK, we don't have any agenda for today =( | 17:02 |
| Nikolay_St | #topic Action Items Review | 17:02 |
| StanLagun | o/ | 17:02 |
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| Nikolay_St | I've ran through meeting notes from past week and haven't seen any action items | 17:03 |
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| Nikolay_St | does anyone has anything on him? | 17:03 |
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| Nikolay_St | I'll wait for 5-10 minutes before switching to Open Discussion | 17:05 |
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| Nikolay_St | ok, looks like nobody has action items | 17:13 |
| Nikolay_St | #topic Open Discussion | 17:13 |
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| Nikolay_St | so, personally I don't have anything to talk about | 17:13 |
| Nikolay_St | just want to remember that voting for the mascot is still open | 17:14 |
| Nikolay_St | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/murano-mascot | 17:14 |
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| vakovalchuk | when does it ends? | 17:22 |
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| vakovalchuk | *end | 17:23 |
| Nikolay_St | vakovalchuk: from the previous meeting: we have time up to July 27th Also I think you can vote for multiple options if you're really torn between those =) | 17:23 |
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| Nikolay_St | kzaitsev wrote it | 17:23 |
| Nikolay_St | let me check | 17:23 |
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| Nikolay_St | sure, I find the mention here: | 17:25 |
| Nikolay_St | #link http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots | 17:25 |
| vakovalchuk | great, so tomorrow we'll know who is our animal patron :) | 17:26 |
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| Nikolay_St | so, team if you do not vote, you still have time | 17:26 |
| Nikolay_St | vakovalchuk: no, tomorrow is a deadline for submitting a list of mascots | 17:26 |
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| Nikolay_St | I'll write a letter, I think, since kzaitsev_ws is on vacation | 17:27 |
| osh_ | so the question is how we will calculate votes | 17:27 |
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| vakovalchuk | got it, sorry | 17:28 |
| osh_ | cause f.e. muraena f.e. has max +1 but one -2 | 17:28 |
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| vakovalchuk | osh_: you are not core reviewer to put -2 :) | 17:28 |
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| Nikolay_St | we can submit a list | 17:29 |
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| Nikolay_St | btw, I can't identify who put -2 on murena | 17:29 |
| Nikolay_St | freerunner: ?? | 17:29 |
| osh_ | some anonymous guy | 17:30 |
| vakovalchuk | it was a hint in my previous message | 17:30 |
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| osh_ | as for me muraena looks too scary so i decided to try to be core in mascots question :D | 17:31 |
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| Nikolay_St | osh_: no way :p | 17:33 |
| vakovalchuk | it depends on the artist implementation | 17:33 |
| vakovalchuk | killer whale sounds even more scary | 17:33 |
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| osh_ | but killer whale looks pretty (: | 17:34 |
| Nikolay_St | (: | 17:34 |
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| Nikolay_St | as for me the list looks like: | 17:35 |
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| Nikolay_St | 1) muraena | 17:35 |
| Nikolay_St | 2) orca | 17:35 |
| Nikolay_St | 3) winged lion | 17:35 |
| Nikolay_St | 4) racoon | 17:35 |
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| Nikolay_St | other stuff | 17:36 |
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| osh_ | well, ok, as I understand just a list gonna be sent and painter (or real mascot cores) will decide which one to pick | 17:36 |
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| osh_ | i'd rather for orca C: | 17:36 |
| vakovalchuk | We picked a few good mascot candidates. Now what? | 17:37 |
| vakovalchuk | Send your candidates to Heidi Joy Tretheway by July 27 for priority consideration. She’ll work with project leaders to avoid duplicates across projects and answer questions. Once she works with the project branding team to confirm your candidates, your team can vote to select your final mascot. | 17:37 |
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| Nikolay_St | oh, we also have glasscrab | 17:37 |
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| osh_ | oh, now I see, thanks vakovalchuk | 17:38 |
| Nikolay_St | an interesting discussion about mascots | 17:38 |
| Nikolay_St | :D | 17:38 |
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| osh_ | Nikolay_St: don't forget about daring glasscrab ofcourse | 17:38 |
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| freerunner | Nikolay_St: oh, where I'm put my -2?) sorry for delay, I forgot my laptop, so I'm on phone now.. | 17:39 |
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| Nikolay_St | freerunner: after investigation we can say that osh_ put -2 | 17:40 |
| Nikolay_St | and he is guilty! | 17:40 |
| Nikolay_St | MWAHAHA | 17:40 |
| Nikolay_St | oh, sorry | 17:40 |
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| osh_ | gotcha :( just kind of joke folks, sorry | 17:41 |
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| osh_ | so we have a list of five animals, great | 17:41 |
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| Nikolay_St | I've added "final" list to etherpad | 17:44 |
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| osh_ | excellent, my +1 to this list | 17:46 |
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| Nikolay_St | ok | 17:51 |
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| Nikolay_St | so, bye all | 17:55 |
| Nikolay_St | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 17:56:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2016/murano.2016-07-26-17.00.html | 17:56 |
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| catherineD|2 | #startmeeting refstack | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 26 19:01:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD|2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:01 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 19:01 |
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| catherineD|2 | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-07-26 | 19:01 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:01 |
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| andrey-mp | o/ | 19:02 |
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| rockyg | o/ | 19:03 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic DefCore midcycle next week | 19:03 |
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| catherineD|2 | many of us will be at the DefCore midcycle next week ... do we still want to have RefStack IRC meeting next week? | 19:04 |
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| hogepodge | I won't make it | 19:04 |
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| catherineD|2 | me neither | 19:05 |
| catherineD|2 | rockyg: yo uwill be at the midcycle right? | 19:05 |
| rockyg | I'm trying to make it. We'll see. | 19:05 |
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| rockyg | I've gotta get the travel approval trough today | 19:06 |
| catherineD|2 | so pvaneck: andrey-mp: how ablut you .. should we skip next week meeting? | 19:06 |
| catherineD|2 | rockyg: ic | 19:06 |
| andrey-mp | sure ) | 19:06 |
| pvaneck | yea, might as well | 19:06 |
| catherineD|2 | ok | 19:07 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic Mascot for RefStack ( https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-mascot ) | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mascot for RefStack ( https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-mascot ) (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:07 | |
| rockyg | Yeah. Best time to get work done is when the managers are off meeting elsewhere | 19:07 |
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| catherineD|2 | we have 3 options ... thanks to hogepodge: and rockyg: ... | 19:07 |
| catherineD|2 | I saw that one of the Keystone team's is bee ... so I think we should send in all 3 options just incase | 19:08 |
| catherineD|2 | if it is OK with everyone | 19:08 |
| pvaneck | that is fine | 19:09 |
| catherineD|2 | alright moving on ... | 19:09 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic refstack-client spec for implementing additional properties DefCore waiver | 19:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "refstack-client spec for implementing additional properties DefCore waiver (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:09 | |
| rockyg | I haven't had time to really put thought into it. | 19:10 |
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| catherineD|2 | rockyg: I like the 3 options we have and the deadline tomorrow .. I think it is good with what we have | 19:11 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD|2: can you add a beehive as another option to augment mine? | 19:11 |
| andrey-mp | yesterday luzC and hogepodge discussed this feature on refstack channel and they will discuss this at Mid-Cycle | 19:12 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge: just beehive without bee? | 19:12 |
| catherineD|2 | bees? | 19:12 |
| luzC | o/ hello sorry to be late | 19:13 |
| hogepodge | catherineD|2: yeah, as an alternative since keystone will probably get priority | 19:13 |
| pvaneck | keystone seems to have selected turtle as theirs | 19:13 |
| catherineD|2 | sure | 19:13 |
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| catherineD|2 | please take a look at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-mascot | 19:14 |
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| catherineD|2 | back to the waiver spec ... yea luzC: hogepodge: will discuss during midcycle ... the only question here is the spec is right now submit to refstack ... is it ok with everyone ? I am ok with all spec in refstack (and not refstack-client) | 19:16 |
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| catherineD|2 | moving on .. | 19:18 |
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| luzC | I'm ok with that... | 19:18 |
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| catherineD|2 | #topic Specification for marking a record as "used for certification" | 19:18 |
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| pvaneck | might ultimately make more sense to just make a specs folder in the refstack-client repo. but i guess since we don't get make many specs for the client, in refstack is fine | 19:18 |
| andrey-mp | pvaneck: +1, another folder is a good idea | 19:19 |
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| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: thanks for reviewing .... did you see my latest response? I can remove the "action" option and make the API an Update API wiht PUT | 19:19 |
| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: pvaneck: if you think adding a spec folder in refstack-client is a good idea .. then we should do it starting with this spec | 19:20 |
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| pvaneck | +1 to that | 19:21 |
| catherineD|2 | #action Create a spec folder in the refstack-client repository | 19:22 |
| davidlenwell | o/ | 19:22 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD|2: yes, I saw your comment. but in any case there is another question - this spec should contain updated info about get/put methods for new column | 19:22 |
| luzC | I'll create the new folder and and move the spec there... | 19:22 |
| catherineD|2 | luzC: thank you!! | 19:22 |
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| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: OK I will update the spec with get put with the new column | 19:23 |
| rockyg | Hey David! Long time no see! | 19:23 |
| catherineD|2 | davidlenwell: hi... | 19:23 |
| catherineD|2 | davidlenwell: it has been a long time ... | 19:24 |
| davidlenwell | hi! I happened to be lurking in this channel and started reading the scroll back and descided not to be a fly on the wall for once | 19:24 |
| catherineD|2 | I will update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343954/ | 19:24 |
| rockyg | davidlenwell, any ideas for mascot would be appreciated.... | 19:25 |
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| davidlenwell | yeah .. I'll leave the etherpad open on my desktop and drop in my thoughts over the next couple of days | 19:25 |
| rockyg | And, of course, design/implememntation thoughts | 19:26 |
| catherineD|2 | moving on to the next topic .... | 19:26 |
| catherineD|2 | #topic Revisit using cloudid vs productid to link test results to product | 19:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Revisit using cloudid vs productid to link test results to product (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:26 | |
| davidlenwell | I had thought about that before when we first started out.. i wanted to code name the project something else because refstack had bad name association and to get better participation I wanted to rebrand.. but in the end im glad it is what it is | 19:26 |
| davidlenwell | couldn't we use either or? | 19:27 |
| davidlenwell | just have a feild for each and if one is blank refer to the other one? | 19:27 |
| davidlenwell | http://66.media.tumblr.com/2694edccc3e66194057d9f54b2dec91c/tumblr_mnn50r2s4K1sosawio1_400.gif | 19:28 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge: question about product id .. in the example of 5.1.1 and 5.1.2 will that be one product or 2 products? | 19:28 |
| catherineD|2 | item 5.1.1 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-07-26 | 19:28 |
| hogepodge | That's one product with a different version | 19:29 |
| andrey-mp | hogepodge: how it should be shown in the RefStack UI? | 19:29 |
| hogepodge | Why not have a version field? | 19:30 |
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| andrey-mp | version field: is it a additional key field for product_id? (unique key is product_id + version) | 19:31 |
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| hogepodge | Sure. Make version optional too? | 19:32 |
| catherineD|2 | if unique key is product_id + version --> we might as well have a new product id ? | 19:32 |
| andrey-mp | hogepodge: if version is included into a unique key then it can not be optional | 19:33 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge: if version is just information only , then unique key is still one column (product_id) | 19:33 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD|2 but in this case only one item will be in DB - product_id with additional version field that is conatained all versions | 19:34 |
| andrey-mp | and user will link something to whole product | 19:35 |
| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: product_id is right now an UUID created by the system ... do you mean we will augment this field by adding version id? | 19:35 |
| hogepodge | andrey-mp: empty is an option | 19:35 |
| hogepodge | andrey-mp: and doesn't get in the way of uniqueness | 19:35 |
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| andrey-mp | hogepodge: is it mean that product does not have versions at all? | 19:36 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge: andrey-mp: seems like version is information only? | 19:36 |
| hogepodge | a public cloud with continuous updates won't have a version associated with it, for example | 19:36 |
| catherineD|2 | hogepodge: +1 | 19:37 |
| andrey-mp | so, what about distros? | 19:37 |
| andrey-mp | and btw - is it cloud based on Havana version is the same as based on Mitaka version? 'Havana' cloud can't pass most tests in the 2016 guideline... | 19:39 |
| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: distro will have version but it would be information only and the version will be tag to the test results (optional) when associate to product | 19:40 |
| andrey-mp | another situation - user can create two results and he wants to refer first result to Mirantis 6.1 and another result to Mirantis 9.0. Is it possible? | 19:41 |
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| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: so mirantis will have a product id ... 6.1 and 9.0 can tag to the meta data of the test results | 19:42 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD|2: this is very strange to store product version in the result... | 19:43 |
| hogepodge | andrey-mp: yes to all of that? I don't see why not | 19:43 |
| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: how would we store different versions in product table with the same product id ? | 19:44 |
| catherineD|2 | anyway .. I suggest let's us give some thought on the example 5.1.1 and 5.1.2 ... | 19:45 |
| andrey-mp | hogepodge: I think in terms of DB(or in terms of OOP) - result is an object(or one item in DB) and product(Mirantis OpenStack) is an another object. Where information about version should be stored? | 19:45 |
| hogepodge | I don't feel strongly about it | 19:47 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD|2: I see cases: 1. make different products for product with versions.(it's better) 2. Add version as column and use it in the uniquness(this has some minuses) | 19:47 |
| catherineD|2 | in 2 which table do you add the version column to? | 19:48 |
| andrey-mp | product | 19:48 |
| catherineD|2 | test table or product table? | 19:48 |
| rockyg | I kinda like 1 but we should get the pluses and minuses documented before we decide | 19:48 |
| catherineD|2 | that won't work | 19:48 |
| andrey-mp | version is a part of product information | 19:48 |
| andrey-mp | why??? | 19:49 |
| catherineD|2 | how can a product row have more than one version? | 19:49 |
| catherineD|2 | so the mirantis row will have version as 6.1 | 19:49 |
| catherineD|2 | where do you put 9.0? | 19:49 |
| andrey-mp | catherineD|2: primary key must be composed from product_id and version | 19:50 |
| catherineD|2 | then pratically you option 2 is similar to 1 | 19:50 |
| andrey-mp | in this case table will allow to store two items with equal product_id and different version | 19:50 |
| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: I think we make thing more complicated | 19:51 |
| catherineD|2 | I suggest we think about this and revisit next week | 19:51 |
| andrey-mp | you can discuss it on mid-cycle | 19:51 |
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| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: we will ... | 19:52 |
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| andrey-mp | did you see Alex's comment about your slides in refstack channel? | 19:52 |
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| catherineD|2 | let's discuss about cpid (cloudid) and product_id | 19:52 |
| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: no | 19:52 |
| andrey-mp | you asked to comment and he did it ) | 19:53 |
| andrey-mp | and I've added topic #8 into etherpad - as I remember you don't want to show OpenID to all | 19:54 |
| catherineD|2 | which date did he added comment? I was out for 3 days last week ... I will check the channel | 19:54 |
| andrey-mp | may be on 06/19 | 19:55 |
| andrey-mp | this is an example when I can find your OpenID ) | 19:55 |
| catherineD|2 | ok sorry for missing that I will check the channel | 19:55 |
| catherineD|2 | back to cloudid vs productid | 19:55 |
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| catherineD|2 | productid regardless whether it will include version of the product or not .. they are unique ... cloudid is not | 19:56 |
| andrey-mp | we have little time - maybe revisit this in two weeks? | 19:56 |
| catherineD|2 | or I should say cloudid by the way we define it by using hash of the keystone url | 19:56 |
| andrey-mp | I thought that keystone public endpoint ID is used... it more unique | 19:57 |
| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: you know that most of the time we ended up not using keystone public endpoint ID ..right? | 19:57 |
| andrey-mp | no, I don't know about it | 19:58 |
| rockyg | Who can remember that far back into ancient history?-) | 19:58 |
| andrey-mp | i see into the code ) | 19:59 |
| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: when you run refstack-client did you get a keystone endpoint id for your cloud? | 19:59 |
| catherineD|2 | or you actually getting the hash of the url? | 19:59 |
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| andrey-mp | catherineD|2: I don't know ) i didn't check what client passed to server | 20:00 |
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| andrey-mp | as I remember it was a endpoint ID in my installation | 20:00 |
| andrey-mp | i need to go in 2-4 minutes | 20:01 |
| catherineD|2 | andrey-mp: please check and let me know | 20:01 |
| catherineD|2 | ok think about that subject ... | 20:01 |
| catherineD|2 | we will skip next week's meeting ... | 20:01 |
| catherineD|2 | thank you all | 20:01 |
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| catherineD|2 | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 26 20:01:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-07-26-19.01.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-07-26-19.01.txt | 20:01 |
| andrey-mp | bye | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2016/refstack.2016-07-26-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
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| rockyg | Thanks! | 20:01 |
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