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| jaypipes | we doing scheduler meeting? | 14:02 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: here? | 14:02 |
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| _gryf | jaypipes, there was no email from ed | 14:02 |
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| _gryf | no agenda either | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, he normally sends an email | 14:03 |
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| jaypipes | _gryf, mlavalle: ok. well, the scheduler/placement sessions at the midcycle were pretty useful. got quite a bit of decision-making done around what is aimed for in Newton and what the eventual Ocata+ plans are. | 14:05 |
| jaypipes | I'm in process of writing up a status email to openstack-dev@ | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | jaypipes: looking forward to your summary. I got a bit of an update from carl_baldwin | 14:05 |
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| _gryf | jaypipes, great, thanks | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mlavalle: hope to join you at the neutron midcycle to help keep the conversation going around the neutron related bits | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | johnthetubaguy: that is great news. Looking forward to see you in Ireland | 14:07 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_upgrades | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 25 15:01:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_upgrades' | 15:01 |
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| korzen | helo | 15:01 |
| slunkad_ | hi | 15:02 |
| * ihrachys waves at everyone | 15:02 | |
| ihrachys | rossella_s: jlibosva: sc68cal: tonytan4ever: electrocucaracha: and whoever else I forgot. | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-Upgrades-Subteam Agenda | 15:02 |
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| ihrachys | I cleaned the agenda page just now, it's now thin and tidy | 15:03 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:03 | |
| ihrachys | nothing specific, we are heading into N3 the end of next month | 15:03 |
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| ihrachys | one thing, I will be off the next Monday (going to flock'16, the fedora conference), so we need someone to step in and replace me | 15:04 |
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| korzen | I can chair | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | korzen: sold. thanks. :) | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | ok let's get into business | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | #topic Partial Multinode Grenade | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Partial Multinode Grenade (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:05 | |
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| ihrachys | the prev meeting we mentioned there were mtu related issues with the job. | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | those are solved now | 15:05 |
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| sc68cal | hello | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | we also looked at linuxbridge flavour failure logs, and determined it's probably also mtu related | 15:05 |
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| ihrachys | some patches landed in devstack that broke all linuxbridge jobs, those were quickly reverted | 15:06 |
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| ihrachys | so now we look at a set of patches for devstack that should hopefully get us back on track with grenade multinode for linuxbridge | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | those are: | 15:07 |
| * sc68cal perks up | 15:07 | |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/345707 | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | ^ that one is a multi component fix that should get us to proper MTU setup for linuxbridge jobs. | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/346282 | 15:07 |
| ihrachys | ^ that one is a 2nd order revert that should enable the proper defaults for all jobs | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | my understanding is that kevinbenton created this patch to validate the fixes: https://review.openstack.org/345449 | 15:08 |
| ihrachys | that said, this is probably not enough for grenade because grenade jobs start with mitaka branch of devstack that won't see the fixes. | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | at least the 2nd order revert that changes defaults. | 15:09 |
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| manjeets__ | ihrachys: is there any etherpad for multinode grenade work ? | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | for that matter, I have a devstack-gate patch that should enable the new default mode of run in gate: | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/345426 | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: there is one but it may be obsolete, searching | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: it's a good comment, we need to keep it updated. | 15:10 |
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| ihrachys | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-multinode-jobs-newton | 15:10 |
| manjeets__ | yes good to get updates from there | 15:10 |
| manjeets__ | thanks ihrachys | 15:10 |
| korzen | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-multinode-jobs-newton | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to update etherpad on multinode with latest status | 15:10 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: have I missed anything in my pitch? | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | I know sc68cal had concerns with us messing up with neutron-legacy | 15:11 |
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| ihrachys | that is apparently very fragile | 15:11 |
| sc68cal | very fragile :( | 15:11 |
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| sc68cal | we'll have to keep poking at it, it's definetly peak complexity and brittleness | 15:12 |
| sc68cal | to figure a way forward | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: where do we stand on getting some gate jobs running with new devstack lib? | 15:12 |
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| ihrachys | I guess this is relevant? | 15:12 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278415/ | 15:12 |
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| * ihrachys pokes sc68cal | 15:14 | |
| * sc68cal looks | 15:14 | |
| sc68cal | yeah that's relevant | 15:15 |
| sc68cal | that patch switches *everything* over | 15:15 |
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| sc68cal | but we could do patches to project-config to switch jobs over individually... it may be messy though | 15:15 |
| sc68cal | ihrachys: we're down to 4 unit test failures that need to be diagnosed and fixed. I'm sure it's just missing configuration | 15:15 |
| sc68cal | between neutron-legacy and neutron | 15:15 |
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| sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278417/ | 15:16 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: unit tests? you mean integration? | 15:16 |
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| ihrachys | the failure logs: http://logs.openstack.org/17/278417/11/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full/d2f81b1/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 15:17 |
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| ihrachys | the first one suggests port security extension driver for ml2 is not enabled. | 15:17 |
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| sc68cal | yeah | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | yeah, it's empty in ml2_conf | 15:18 |
| sc68cal | the cross tenant SG one may take a little more digging | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | for sec group failures, it's not that obvious | 15:18 |
| ihrachys | ok cool, seems like you are on good track with the switch. | 15:18 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Object implementation | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Object implementation (Meeting topic: neutron_upgrades)" | 15:19 | |
| ihrachys | we landed a significant set of dep patches for subnet work that korzen handles | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | yay | 15:19 |
| korzen | jupi :) | 15:19 |
| ihrachys | korzen: where do we stand on getting adoption patch ready to land from your perspective? | 15:19 |
| korzen | yes, I am now working on rebasing the subnet ovo patch for get_subnet/update/delete | 15:20 |
| korzen | I am wondering how about tenant_id -> project_id translation | 15:21 |
| korzen | should it be done in API | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | korzen: it's not the goal of our blueprint to change anything on API layer. | 15:21 |
| korzen | or in db_base_plugin | 15:21 |
| sc68cal | I think I recall a mailing list post where we'll translate it ? | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | korzen: there is obviously an implication for that other keystonev3 switch blueprint | 15:21 |
| ihrachys | but that should be solved there | 15:21 |
| electrocucaracha | korzen: I can check with dasm | 15:21 |
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| ihrachys | sc68cal: right. but that belongs to the other blueprint that targets that, not the work korzen does with solely changing persistence layer for subnets. | 15:22 |
| sc68cal | ack | 15:22 |
| korzen | so the current problem is that API tests are passing the tenant_id and OVO integration is looking for project_id as input | 15:22 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: we should convert that ourselves for now. later, maybe keystonev3 work will pass project-id right away and then we won't need to do it | 15:23 |
| korzen | for starter I can translate the tenant_id to project_id in db_base_plugin | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | korzen: I believe that's the way to go. somewhere closer to object API usage. | 15:23 |
| korzen | ihrachys, ok | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | ideally, where you pass arguments into get_objects and friends | 15:23 |
| ihrachys | the more isolated the change from our side the better. | 15:24 |
| electrocucaracha | +1 | 15:24 |
| ihrachys | cool | 15:24 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: anything more that would require discussion on subnet? | 15:24 |
| korzen | I guess the cidr | 15:24 |
| korzen | like str is needed to be converted to IPNetwork before we pass it to Subnet ovo | 15:25 |
| korzen | and it also to be done in db_base_plugin | 15:25 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: right. we convert in plugin to authentic netaddr type, then pass it into the object field. what's about it? | 15:26 |
| korzen | yes | 15:26 |
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| korzen | other than that I will have to register the plugin in fullstack tests | 15:26 |
| korzen | or any other test that is not configured with Neutron Manager get_plugin() | 15:27 |
| ihrachys | korzen: fullstack? don't we already run neutron-server with a plugin (ml2?) there? | 15:27 |
| korzen | ihrachys, sorry I guess it was something else | 15:27 |
| ihrachys | korzen: yes, unit tests need to register a plugin to use objects. | 15:27 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: we may consider moving the registration upper a layer eg. into the base test class somewhere, so that it's always there | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | (with same base db plugin class unless it's specified otherwise) | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | then we won't need to duplicate it every time | 15:28 |
| korzen | ok, I will check | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | korzen: I would not block subnet work on that, just an idea. | 15:28 |
| ihrachys | korzen: for subnet, I would just patch it to pass the gate in a place or two and leave it as an excercise for the future. but I am known to be lazy. | 15:29 |
| korzen | ok, will see | 15:29 |
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| korzen | maybe this week or next we will be able to see all gates passing | 15:30 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: is that the same issue that I got in the morning? | 15:30 |
| korzen | electrocucaracha, I guess yes ;) | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: the core plugin registration? yes. though probably for different test classes. | 15:30 |
| ihrachys | korzen: I would really love to see this week, but I understand it's wishful thinking :) | 15:31 |
| korzen | electrocucaracha, like 5 PM morning :D | 15:31 |
| manjeets__ | wait is gate still broken korzen ? | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | korzen: haha | 15:31 |
| electrocucaracha | korzen: :) | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: no, gate is fine, korzen means for his patches | 15:31 |
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| ihrachys | ok, enough for subnets. | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | another good news is we landed port security objects including adoption in code: https://review.openstack.org/327257 | 15:31 |
| manjeets__ | ok | 15:31 |
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| rossella_s | yay | 15:32 |
| korzen | I see armax had a blessing hand on Friday | 15:32 |
| rossella_s | I've seen many patch landed last week | 15:32 |
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| ihrachys | there is a patch from korzen that starts documenting objects in devref | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/336518 | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | folks please review that one ^ it's still early days but we need to agree on how it should look like from strategic pov | 15:33 |
| ihrachys | bird view at least | 15:33 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, agreed | 15:33 |
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| * manjeets__ already reviewed that and suggested some changes | 15:33 | |
| ihrachys | I prefer we try to maintain as much of docs in code because it's less prone to become obsolete | 15:33 |
| korzen | yes, if someone would like to write an chapter, then I;m open to cooperation :) | 15:33 |
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| ihrachys | with devref being a single entry point for newcomers to get the idea, where to start, maybe we can even autogenerate some of docs straight from the code | 15:34 |
| manjeets__ | korzen: chapter on object implementation ? | 15:34 |
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| manjeets__ | ihrachys: ++ | 15:34 |
| ihrachys | there is a patch from manjeets__ that suggests to add some more object API methods: | 15:35 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/344434 | 15:35 |
| ihrachys | that is a bit controversial since it seems opinions are split. | 15:35 |
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| korzen | there is a couple of places where one() is used | 15:36 |
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| korzen | and if this places rely on raising an exception, maybe an method in object base class can be prepared | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | korzen: question is, why get_object/get_objects not enougj? | 15:37 |
| ihrachys | users can always craft a raising helper if they need it. like we do in qos plugin for get_object. | 15:37 |
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| ihrachys | they way I see it, we are not forced to expose every single method from sqla as long as we provide a way to achieve something without a hit on scalability and such | 15:38 |
| rossella_s | ihrachys, +1 | 15:38 |
| korzen | in my understanding, when you do the get_objects and then you need to parse in code how many results you've got, that is performance ;) | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | korzen: that one is; so why not get_object? | 15:38 |
| ihrachys | korzen: you can also paginate ;) | 15:39 |
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| manjeets__ | I also had one more concern | 15:40 |
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| manjeets__ | for some object we need a refactor to move models out of file which have mixins in itself | 15:40 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: which one | 15:40 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: right, the circular import issue right? | 15:40 |
| * manjeets__ looks for launchpad ticket | 15:40 | |
| manjeets__ | ye | 15:41 |
| manjeets__ | yes | 15:41 |
| ihrachys | we need to rearrange models in the tree. I think there was even a RFE reported to track the work. was that you? | 15:41 |
| manjeets__ | I have proposed instead handling it with each object make a design move all models definitions to one file | 15:41 |
| manjeets__ | yes | 15:41 |
| manjeets__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1597913 | 15:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597913 in neutron "refactor model definitions" [Wishlist,New] | 15:42 |
| electrocucaracha | I like the idea | 15:42 |
| electrocucaracha | specially because it's common to have to split models from mixins | 15:42 |
| ihrachys | that seems like a good idea, though we need to make sure we handle it in a way that is compatible (leaving shims with deprecations for external users) | 15:42 |
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| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: mixins should burn in hell, but yeah | 15:43 |
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| electrocucaracha | but the questions is, what could be the definitions? do you have a suggestion for that? | 15:43 |
| manjeets__ | and don't create separate directory divide model definitions into categories and have them defined that instead of creating a new file of each object | 15:43 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: are you going to push a devref proposal maybe on tree arrangement? I am pleased to help with reviews for the effort. | 15:44 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets__: I suggest you describe briefly your vision in devref patch and we spin on it there. is it good for you? | 15:45 |
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| manjeets__ | ihrachys: a separate one ? or we can have it added to korzen's devref doc patch ? | 15:45 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: that is a separate thing | 15:45 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: overall there may already be a place for such a description. we need to check existing pages. | 15:46 |
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| manjeets__ | ok will take a look into it | 15:46 |
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| ihrachys | manjeets__: cool. I will check after the meeting too. | 15:46 |
| manjeets__ | sounds good | 15:46 |
| ihrachys | we have more objects in review, specifically service type from electrocucaracha https://review.openstack.org/304322 and dns from manjeets__ https://review.openstack.org/334695 | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | the latter probably requires some rework based on feedback on get_one_object | 15:47 |
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| manjeets__ | for some reason gate is not being showering love on dns object since friday | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: what's the status for service type? I see it has a bit to adopt the object. great. where are we in terms of getting gate green? | 15:47 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: rebase needed, it's in conflict | 15:48 |
| manjeets__ | yes I saw it now | 15:48 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: after the suggestion to configure the plugin, I'm getting an error saying AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'provider_name'" | 15:48 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: I'm still checking the trace and figure out the possible causes | 15:48 |
| ihrachys | electrocucaracha: ok, let's see after the meeting where it gets from. I will ping you. | 15:48 |
| electrocucaracha | ihrachys: thanks | 15:49 |
| ihrachys | there are more patches in the queue in different state of readiness | 15:49 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/adopt-oslo-versioned-objects-for-db | 15:49 |
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| ihrachys | port object, I should have got to it the prev week, and I failed. I will get to it tomorrow, it's first thing in my list right now. | 15:50 |
| manjeets__ | can't we have model query type helper defined in object api instead of going convoluted way of using plugin ? | 15:50 |
| * ihrachys whips his back | 15:50 | |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: sorry I don't follow. | 15:50 |
| ihrachys | manjeets__: the plugin registered is needed because get_object() relies on common_db_mixin that requires plugin to be available. | 15:50 |
| korzen | like decouple plugin and objects.db.api | 15:51 |
| ihrachys | korzen: we need to do that, but it's not easy because query and other hooks are registered on common_db_mixin and are themselves isntancemethods | 15:51 |
| ihrachys | not class methods | 15:51 |
| korzen | ihrachys, yeah, I think we have to live with it for now | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | though afaik there are no current users that require _model_query to be instancemethod | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | but that's an unsafe change that we should think through, it potentially breaks a a lot of things. | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | also of note, a lot of this stuff now is being moved into neutron-lib | 15:52 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303864/4/neutron_lib/db/utils.py | 15:53 |
| ihrachys | I prefer we don't get in that rabbit hole unless forced to :) | 15:53 |
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| ihrachys | ok let's move on, we have few minutes to run thru the agenda | 15:54 |
| ihrachys | #topic Other patches on review | 15:54 |
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| ihrachys | quick note, we landed the patch that converts networks to new MTU values on Friday | 15:54 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/336805 | 15:54 |
| ihrachys | the one we discussed the prev week. | 15:54 |
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| ihrachys | another thing you should all be aware is: | 15:55 |
| ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/push-notifications | 15:55 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton is going to use objects for DHCP agent | 15:55 |
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| ihrachys | initially we were thinking he will need just subnets | 15:55 |
| ihrachys | but in https://review.openstack.org/340273 I see networks and ports | 15:55 |
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| korzen | my thinking was it is all needed | 15:56 |
| ihrachys | which may be a pain and we may need to change direction for that bp a bit since those objects probably won't land before N | 15:56 |
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| ihrachys | ok, I was under wrong impression :) | 15:56 |
| ihrachys | another thing, kevinbenton crafted some quick hack to push payload into agents that is very similar to rpc callbacks: | 15:57 |
| korzen | I hope that subnet work will open an short path to network and port adoption | 15:57 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/336730 and https://review.openstack.org/340272 | 15:57 |
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| ihrachys | I suspect it's just for testing and is not meant to land as-is | 15:57 |
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| ihrachys | korzen: we'll try, yes. but we should think of alternatives so as not to block his work in case of failure. | 15:57 |
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| ihrachys | the patches that kevinbenton has for object amqp notifier do not seem to be compatible with rolling upgrades. | 15:58 |
| ihrachys | because they don't backport objects, that rpc callback does | 15:58 |
| ihrachys | so something to clarify with him in review, others are welcome to join. | 15:58 |
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| ihrachys | any more patches to mention? | 15:58 |
| korzen | ok, thanks for links | 15:59 |
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| ihrachys | ok, we don't have time for open discussion this time, sorry. | 15:59 |
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| ihrachys | next week korzen will give a time slot for all concerns! | 15:59 |
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| ihrachys | in the meantime, please reach in irc if you have anything to any of us | 16:00 |
| ihrachys | and keep up! | 16:00 |
| manjeets__ | cool thanks | 16:00 |
| korzen | thanks, bye | 16:00 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 25 16:00:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-07-25-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-07-25-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_upgrades/2016/neutron_upgrades.2016-07-25-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 25 16:00:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is harlowja_at_home. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| gcb | o/ | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | howddddy! | 16:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 16:00 |
| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:00 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dims | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, gcb, GheRivero, haypo | 16:00 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for lifeless, lintan, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor, redrobot | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak, stevemar | 16:01 |
| browne | o/ | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | courtesy ping for therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 16:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 16:01 |
| rossella_s | bye | 16:01 |
| rpodolyaka | o/ | 16:01 |
| osh | o/ | 16:01 |
| jecarey | 0/ | 16:01 |
| * stevemar sneaks in the back | 16:01 | |
| harlowja_at_home | rossella_s, bye | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | harlowja_at_home: please change my nick in the list, it does not hilight :) | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ Kind of. | 16:01 |
| rbradfor | o/ o/ o/ | 16:01 |
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| harlowja_at_home | kk, ihrachys https://github.com/openstack/oslo.tools/blob/master/ping_me.py if u want also ;) | 16:01 |
| jimbaker | o/ | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | additions/removals welcome ;) | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | cool | 16:01 |
| harlowja_at_home | *super crappy ping script | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:02 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Red flags for/from liaisons (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 16:02 | |
| harlowja_at_home | so whats happening with folks??? | 16:02 |
| johnsom | Nothing to report | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | i have a red flag, that one should not use southwest airlines last week (like i did) | 16:02 |
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| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from Cinder. We talked about Oslo during our mid-cycle but nothing concrete from it. | 16:03 |
| johnsom | Ouch, yeah, I saw the line for SW... | 16:03 |
| osh | nothing from murano | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | nothing, all good. I am impressed how stable we are in terms of oslo these days. | 16:03 |
| bknudson | hi | 16:03 |
| bknudson | No red flags from keystone that I know of | 16:03 |
| bknudson | other than we've got a team member having a problem with an oslo.context change. | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | ihrachys, ha, well sorta, the check periodics stuff is still busted for nova, at least if i release oslo.context (or unblock it) :-/ | 16:03 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, right | 16:03 |
| gcb | nova need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343694/ to fix oslo.context 2.6 in Nova side | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | gcb, thx | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | harlowja_at_home: nimby! | 16:04 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343694/ is -1 | 16:04 |
| * harlowja_at_home will check that one out | 16:04 | |
| bknudson | but thanks I'll also add it to my short list | 16:04 |
| gcb | but nova guys dislike the way , I and dough add +1 | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | :( | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, seeing some of the comments there | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | hmmm | 16:04 |
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| bknudson | jamie lennox also proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345633/ | 16:05 |
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| harlowja_at_home | man, what a pita, lol | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | but ok, will check both of those out | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | (and thats not like pita bread, ha) | 16:05 |
| bknudson | pitas are great for gyros | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, ;) | 16:06 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Releases for newton | 16:06 |
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| harlowja_at_home | i'll get out a release list later today (minus oslo.context for now) | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | anyone want me to add/remove anything from said potential list? | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | speak now or forever hold your peace | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:07 |
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| ihrachys | harlowja_at_home: sadly I can't validate if we have any breakage with oslo master | 16:07 |
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| ihrachys | harlowja_at_home: because our grafana dash went south | 16:08 |
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| harlowja_at_home | kk | 16:08 |
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| harlowja_at_home | is that going north soon? | 16:08 |
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| stevemar | amrith: just don't sit behind me, that'll be a bad view | 16:08 |
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| ihrachys | harlowja_at_home: just noticed, will run the case right now. if you don't hear from us in 2h go ahead and break us | 16:08 |
| bknudson | if you're not the lead dog the view is always the same. | 16:09 |
| bknudson | * | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | ihrachys, ok, i'm quoting u ;) | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | (if anything breaks), lol | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | haha | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | I will be voted of that role | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | :) | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | no take backs | 16:09 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #topic Reviews needing discussion/attention | 16:10 |
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| harlowja_at_home | anyone want to highlight any reviews we can (try) to bring attention to (besides the nova oslo.context ones)? | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | <bring your reviews> | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | (nearly any reviews, ha) | 16:11 |
| harlowja_at_home | if someone gets bored https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343857/ :-P | 16:11 |
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| gcb | harlowja_at_home, I saw your bot post the result in oslo channel ,cool | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, nothing special, ha, but hopefully useful to someone :-P | 16:13 |
| jimbaker | harlowja_at_home, at some point: maybe the taskflow container engine discussion we kicked off with you and sputnik13? | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | u can also private message that bot and do !help and such | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | jimbaker, ah yes | 16:13 |
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| harlowja_at_home | jimbaker, how about we discuss/overview that next weeks for folks here | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | since i sorta missed that one | 16:13 |
| harlowja_at_home | it'd be nice to catch folks up, get ideas... | 16:14 |
| jimbaker | harlowja_at_home, sounds good about that timing | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:14 |
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| harlowja_at_home | something something, taskflow + containers (for those wondering) | 16:14 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:14 |
| rbradfor | Is anybody attending OpenStackEast in NYC http://www.openstackeast.com/ | 16:15 |
| jimbaker | rbradfor, yes | 16:15 |
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| harlowja_at_home | woah, there is a 'Playstation Theater' now? | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | damn corporate branding, lol | 16:15 |
| jimbaker | harlowja_at_home, branding. it's all about the branding. but it's a great concept combo | 16:16 |
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| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, not me, sadly to far away :-P | 16:16 |
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| harlowja_at_home | although http://www.openstackeast.com/speakers/ looks like some people i know | 16:17 |
| rbradfor | understand, it's really only for locals, or those in northeast | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | #topic Open discussion | 16:17 |
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| bknudson | Keystone midcycle was last week | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, oh ya, how'd that go? | 16:18 |
| bknudson | we talked about some oslo.policy changes. | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | cool | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | zookeeper yet? | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:18 |
| bknudson | no mention of zookeeper | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | durn | 16:18 |
| bknudson | I don't know what all specs are already proposed. | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296785/ could merge at anytime (if its useful) | 16:19 |
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| * harlowja_at_home will poke adam on that | 16:19 | |
| harlowja_at_home | #action harlowja poke adam on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296785/ | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | guess its a short-meeting-day | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:21 |
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| rbradfor | jamielennox was going to dial into the Nova midcycle. I never saw a response in -oslo of his experience, re oslo.context | 16:22 |
| bknudson | nova midcycle was also last week? | 16:22 |
| harlowja_at_home | i think so | 16:22 |
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| harlowja_at_home | let me see if i can find jamie later to talk about what happened there | 16:23 |
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| * harlowja_at_home might have to find folks to resolve that one | 16:24 | |
| harlowja_at_home | it does make me wonder if we should set better expectations on apis in general | 16:24 |
| harlowja_at_home | perhaps do an audit, make sure people really understand what the public api(s) actually are | 16:25 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, I believe having more defined docs may help. | 16:25 |
| rbradfor | Are the docs for the oslo.context API something we can reference in the example of the nova issue. | 16:25 |
| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, we can, but they don't mention anything saying "don't do direct dict comparisons" | 16:26 |
| harlowja_at_home | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.context/api/context.html#oslo_context.context.RequestContext.to_dict | 16:26 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345633/2 is W+1 already | 16:26 |
| rbradfor | harlowja_at_home, agreed, however is there a higher level Oslo API docs that should. | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, oh nice | 16:27 |
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| rbradfor | or is oslo.context the only library that does from_dict/to_dict | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, nah its not, taskflow has some of that to | 16:27 |
| bknudson | it might also turn out that nova has a reason to require a specific value for the dict. If so, we need to document that | 16:27 |
| rbradfor | Makes you wonder what we should be adding in comments to better document see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.context/api/context.html | 16:27 |
| bknudson | for example, maybe they don't want too much in the dict if it gets serialized. | 16:28 |
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| rbradfor | it's not really endorsing any contract | 16:28 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, fair point | 16:28 |
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| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, ya, i can take a stab at adjusting that doc | 16:28 |
| bknudson | in this case I think all we added is a boolean | 16:28 |
| rbradfor | bknudson, actually no, we added 5 new attributes over 2 pages | 16:29 |
| rbradfor | but there were multiple issues with nova. | 16:29 |
| rbradfor | 2 commits, no idea how autocorrect got pages!!! | 16:29 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:30 |
| rbradfor | when I say issues, there were multiple things nova were specifically doing in their tests | 16:30 |
| rbradfor | that may/may not be advantageous to Oslo extending it's APIs without specific breakages. | 16:30 |
| bknudson | I'm surprised by their reaction to the test failures. It's happened several times that projects had tests that were testing the library rather than their use of the library. | 16:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, i think one thing i did learn is that projects would be helped(?) by having some general guidelines around testing | 16:31 |
| rbradfor | 1. having an expected dictionary, and comparing with context.to_dict() will never enable new attributes | 16:31 |
| rbradfor | 2. there is some to_dict(from_dict()) subclass issues needing to be resolved. | 16:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | right, i'd more expect projects to test deltas, or subsets (if they add anything to the dicts) | 16:31 |
| rbradfor | 3. nova does a zero warnings test, this doesn't bode for future deprecation warnings | 16:31 |
| harlowja_at_home | i think keystone also does that same zero warnings test? | 16:32 |
| harlowja_at_home | (but my memory might be fuzzy there) | 16:32 |
| rbradfor | these types of project tests, restrict API development flexibility | 16:32 |
| bknudson | yes, in keystone if we're using deprecated behavior we want to know about it. | 16:32 |
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| harlowja_at_home | rbradfor, agreed | 16:32 |
| bknudson | this doesn't restrict API development flexibility at all | 16:33 |
| rbradfor | bknudson, using deprecated behavior and breaking the gate when a something is not deprecated should be independent tasks, not dependent tasks | 16:33 |
| bknudson | if we get a failure because of using deprecated function then we need to change the code. | 16:33 |
| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, i think rbradfor is more of saying, that there is no time between release and break | 16:33 |
| rbradfor | bknudson, the purpose of deprecation is to support migrating to it over time, not immediately. | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | so its hard to do that release without a break | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | *right the migration part | 16:34 |
| harlowja_at_home | it hasn't been an issue though i will say with keystone (at least one i can recall) | 16:34 |
| rbradfor | and without the periodical check, there would be zero foresight of release and break | 16:34 |
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| bknudson | it happens way too often that something is deprecated without any actual replacement. I think the test for deprecation helps us find that. | 16:35 |
| harlowja_at_home | right, the pray and release days of past | 16:35 |
| rbradfor | bknudson, I wish all projects were that proactive. | 16:35 |
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| * harlowja_at_home me to | 16:36 | |
| bknudson | also, we can just ignore the deprecation for that test to prevent the gate breaking. | 16:36 |
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| harlowja_at_home | did the fixture for those warnings ever get merged into oslotest, or was it going into fixtures (can't remember) | 16:37 |
| bknudson | I proposed it to upstream fixtures | 16:37 |
| harlowja_at_home | k | 16:37 |
| bknudson | but I haven't been working on it. | 16:37 |
| bknudson | the changes got more complicated | 16:38 |
| harlowja_at_home | :-P | 16:38 |
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| harlowja_at_home | why does that always seem to happen, ha | 16:38 |
| bknudson | I agree we could improve the deprecation warnings. | 16:39 |
| bknudson | But the warnings module also has a pre-deprecation warning that could be used. | 16:39 |
| bknudson | https://docs.python.org/2.6/library/exceptions.html#exceptions.PendingDeprecationWarning | 16:39 |
| harlowja_at_home | pre-pre-pre-deprecation | 16:39 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, i propose we put that warning on al lfunction calls | 16:39 |
| harlowja_at_home | just incase, ha | 16:39 |
| harlowja_at_home | (that's a joke) | 16:40 |
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| bknudson | I meant "I agree keystone could improve the checks for deprecation warnings" -- not sure what form that would take | 16:40 |
| bknudson | would be nice if jenkins had a "warnings" result, not just -1. | 16:40 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, def | 16:40 |
| harlowja_at_home | that'd be nice | 16:40 |
| * harlowja_at_home i'll poke infra about that | 16:41 | |
| harlowja_at_home | it really does seem useful | 16:41 |
| harlowja_at_home | a non-voting(?) warnings only job | 16:41 |
| harlowja_at_home | that just exists to capture those | 16:41 |
| bknudson | the only way I can think of doing it now is a periodic job or extra non-voting. | 16:41 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya | 16:41 |
| bknudson | seems like a lot of overhead | 16:41 |
| lxsli | afaic warnings are failures | 16:41 |
| harlowja_at_home | lxsli, what do u mean | 16:42 |
| harlowja_at_home | they are failures (like exceptions?) | 16:42 |
| harlowja_at_home | or they fail in life? | 16:42 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:42 |
| lxsli | well if my C program says "warning: you maybe freed something you shouldn't have" I should fix that | 16:42 |
| lxsli | same if "warning: your syntax isn't conventional" | 16:42 |
| harlowja_at_home | <crash> | 16:42 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:42 |
| bknudson | that's what keystone deprecation warning fixture does. Causes the "build" to fail. | 16:43 |
| lxsli | I just mean, anything we have to fix goes in the same bucket, no point differentiating a "warning" from a failure | 16:43 |
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| harlowja_at_home | ya, i mean "error" can be set for the warnings module | 16:43 |
| harlowja_at_home | -W "error" i think to the python runtime | 16:43 |
| harlowja_at_home | and that will cause warnings ---> exceptions | 16:43 |
| lxsli | OK maybe I missed something, catching up | 16:44 |
| harlowja_at_home | just might be hard to get a listing using such mechanism | 16:44 |
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| bknudson | lxsli: that's what people are complaining about here. I'm fine with how it's working, but the complaint is that our check is somehow causing problems for releases. | 16:44 |
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| harlowja_at_home | bknudson, i don't think it is just yet, rbradfor i think was just making the point that having such check (without proper updating when it happens) can make releases hard that actually do deprecate things (with a grace period) | 16:45 |
| harlowja_at_home | those same checks as u said do make sure there is a migraiton path that is created | 16:45 |
| harlowja_at_home | which is good | 16:45 |
| rbradfor | the gate system doesn't easily support a more strict test case of a non-voting failure for deprecated warnings. this gives the projects grace periods | 16:46 |
| rbradfor | with current gate testing, it is SUCCESS or FAILURE, there is no WARNINGS capability | 16:46 |
| harlowja_at_home | right, or FAILURE if warning has existed for > 3 months | 16:47 |
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| harlowja_at_home | but if warning < 3 month, then WARNING (only) | 16:47 |
| harlowja_at_home | that'd be even nicer | 16:47 |
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| harlowja_at_home | but i'm dreaming, i'll talk with infra about what we can brainstorm on here | 16:48 |
| bknudson | we'd never see the warning. | 16:48 |
| harlowja_at_home | so is that because people only pay attention to failures? | 16:48 |
| bknudson | we get lots of warnings from our tests already if you know where to look. | 16:48 |
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| bknudson | test output is gobbled up by something. | 16:48 |
| harlowja_at_home | right, so its a visibility problem | 16:48 |
| harlowja_at_home | and FAIL makes it really visible ;) | 16:49 |
| harlowja_at_home | (even though perhaps, in theoretical gate/dimension) this could be resolved differently | 16:49 |
| rbradfor | FAIL can also freak people out, especially say if the gate breaks a few days before a midcycle meeting of a project | 16:49 |
| harlowja_at_home | right | 16:50 |
| harlowja_at_home | perhaps we getting to theoretical though :-P | 16:50 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:50 |
| bknudson | no releases a few days before a midcycle | 16:50 |
| bknudson | no releases for the last few months of the cycle | 16:51 |
| bknudson | eventually, no releases ever. | 16:51 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:51 |
| harlowja_at_home | took ma job | 16:51 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:51 |
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| rbradfor | or we hold up everthing we want to do, and release it day 1 of a new cycle, that way all projects know in advance our scope | 16:51 |
| lxsli | bknudson: didn't know you worked on Nova | 16:52 |
| harlowja_at_home | all my code is perfect, never needs further changes | 16:52 |
| harlowja_at_home | obviously, lol | 16:52 |
| harlowja_at_home | anyways, perhaps we to far off in the weeds :-P | 16:52 |
| harlowja_at_home | rejoin in #openstack-oslo if people want to continue this?? ;) | 16:53 |
| harlowja_at_home | silence means approval, lol | 16:53 |
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| harlowja_at_home | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 25 16:54:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| harlowja_at_home | ;) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2016/oslo.2016-07-25-16.00.html | 16:54 |
| lxsli | Enthusiastic consent! | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2016/oslo.2016-07-25-16.00.txt | 16:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2016/oslo.2016-07-25-16.00.log.html | 16:54 |
| harlowja_at_home | ha | 16:54 |
| harlowja_at_home | bbiab | 16:54 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: julen hello | 18:00 |
| dguitarbite | #startmeeting training-labs | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 25 18:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dguitarbite. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_labs' | 18:00 |
| dguitarbite | Hello | 18:00 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: hi | 18:01 |
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| julen | hi dguitarbite rluethi | 18:02 |
| rluethi | hi julen | 18:02 |
| dguitarbite | #topic pxe feature | 18:02 |
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| dguitarbite | hello all | 18:02 |
| dguitarbite | Happy to see that we finally merged the initial PXE patch! | 18:02 |
| rluethi | hey all | 18:02 |
| julen | yeah! :) | 18:02 |
| dguitarbite | julen: Thanks for adding this feature. | 18:02 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Thanks for making this patch awesome! | 18:02 |
| rluethi | julen did the hard part :) | 18:03 |
| julen | well.. thank you guys for all the help... it wouldn't be possible without you both :) | 18:03 |
| dguitarbite | :) | 18:03 |
| dguitarbite | Any ideas on how to proceed further with the PXE patch? | 18:04 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: yes, some :) | 18:04 |
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| julen | the bridged option.. | 18:05 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: first, I need to get the Windows version working again. | 18:05 |
| rluethi | I broked it :( | 18:05 |
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| dguitarbite | ok, so lets come back to the PXE feature next week. | 18:06 |
| dguitarbite | #topic Windows Suport | 18:06 |
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| dguitarbite | NVM the typo ;) | 18:07 |
| dguitarbite | julen Lets come back to the PXE bits a bit later. There is the next OpenStack release that we need to think about. | 18:07 |
| julen | sure | 18:08 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: So what are the issues with the Windows support? | 18:08 |
| rluethi | julen: as far as I am concerned, we can work more on PXE, I just need to fix the stuff I broke first. | 18:08 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: I introduced a new command "shutdown", but forgot to check whether it makes it into the Windows batch files. | 18:09 |
| julen | rluethi: sure, let me know if I can help | 18:09 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: Sounds like a good idea to fix it in Windows and find a few more issues. | 18:09 |
| rluethi | I could just reintroduce the shutdown_controller.sh script, but I want to fix it properly. | 18:09 |
| dguitarbite | julen: I think from my side, you could think about getting the PXE patch running on KVM if you have nothing else which is interesting for you. | 18:10 |
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| julen | dguitarbite: right now I am with the login script | 18:11 |
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| rluethi | julen: excellent, we need more automated regression testing. | 18:11 |
| dguitarbite | julen: Ok. | 18:11 |
| julen | but I can put it on the queue | 18:11 |
| dguitarbite | julen: Yes, more testing is awesome. | 18:11 |
| dguitarbite | #topic testing | 18:11 |
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| julen | there we go | 18:11 |
| dguitarbite | julen: rluethi Could we think about adding tempest tests for our cluster too? | 18:11 |
| julen | I have a couple of comments... | 18:11 |
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| dguitarbite | Also I would predict around one month of free time for working on these things! After that we have to move our focus on updating training-labs to the newer release. | 18:12 |
| julen | dguitarbite: that would be really pro! :D | 18:12 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: last time I checked tempest was quite difficult to set up and took forever to run. I think it would be a nice addition to have once we've covered the basics. | 18:13 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: What coveres basics? | 18:13 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Also IMHO setting up and running tempest should not be such a big deal. | 18:13 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: But I could be totally wrong or missing something important. | 18:13 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: can we build a base disk and a cluster on virtualbox and kvm? can we launch an instance VM inside these clusters? that kind of thing. | 18:14 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Gotchya | 18:14 |
| rluethi | with our current smoke tests, we can build the whole thing and run all the tests in under half an hour. | 18:14 |
| julen | so, I was trying to do the script based on curl, because I think it is more simple, easy to understand, and more osbash-ish, but I haven't managed to get it working yet. I also tried with python, but as far as I understand, selenium needs X11 and plenty of dependencies, right? | 18:15 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: It would become increasingly important to do these tests once we have the parser set in motion. | 18:15 |
| julen | uff.. too long of a sentence... it come out off topic already | 18:15 |
| dguitarbite | julen: Does it really? Can you check how the horizon guys are testing their UI? | 18:15 |
| julen | yes, I did | 18:15 |
| julen | they use selenium | 18:16 |
| julen | actually, maybe we could use their tests directly... | 18:16 |
| rluethi | julen: interesting. that would be a good argument for selenium, although I'd rather not add more (especially large) dependencies to the basedisk. | 18:16 |
| julen | https://github.com/openstack/horizon/tree/master/openstack_dashboard/test/integration_tests | 18:16 |
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| rluethi | julen: can you check how much space these additional dependencies would require? | 18:17 |
| dguitarbite | julen: rluethi The scope of testing the UI should not require us to run these things in side the cluster | 18:17 |
| julen | the advantage of that, is that they already have plenty of tests.. including login and checking all the stuff | 18:17 |
| dguitarbite | It could rather be run on the host machine altogether! | 18:17 |
| julen | dguitarbite: totally agree | 18:18 |
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| rluethi | dguitarbite: all our test scripts run on the controller VM as of now, and for a reason: it is an environment we have under control. | 18:18 |
| julen | it's kind of, nicer | 18:18 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Would you still want to stick to curl? | 18:18 |
| julen | also, it would test that the machine is accessible from the outside | 18:18 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: julen Lets discuss the details after a short research phase, does that make sense? | 18:18 |
| dguitarbite | julen: I think I kind of get Roger's point here. | 18:18 |
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| dguitarbite | julen: We need not test horizon's UI but rather if the UI is working. | 18:19 |
| julen | yes, I also agree with him | 18:19 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: yes. I think the person writing the code should pick the tool, but it should not run against the goals we set for the project. | 18:19 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: I think its easier if we test with curl to see if we get expected HTML format which could be easily figured out from the horizon templates from its repository upstream. | 18:19 |
| rluethi | installing lots of dependencies on the host machine would be a no-go for regular users. | 18:19 |
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| dguitarbite | And then test keystone for checking if logging in works. | 18:20 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: What do you think:? | 18:20 |
| julen | this is why I think curl would be better... even if it just tests the login and launching an instance | 18:20 |
| dguitarbite | julen: We do not have to test Horizon ... we just need to check if it is working as expected. | 18:20 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: julen Did you guys understand what I was saying? | 18:20 |
| rluethi | julen: that would not be "just", that would be a lot and very useful. | 18:20 |
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| rluethi | dguitarbite: I don't know. In such cases, I try to play around with all the options to get a feel for what is the best solution. | 18:21 |
| julen | well.. the "just" was just as a comparison with the horizon tests... | 18:21 |
| rluethi | julen: the horizon tests try to cover everything, like tempest. | 18:22 |
| rluethi | it's not what we need. | 18:22 |
| julen | well.. give me a little bit more time, so I try to get it with curl. If it doesn't work, we can keep discussing | 18:22 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: julen I agree. Lets move on. | 18:22 |
| dguitarbite | suggestions for the next topic? | 18:23 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: parser-script-generator? | 18:23 |
| dguitarbite | #topic parser | 18:23 |
| julen | rluethi: I am a little worried because I still don't master the cookies part with curl, and also because there might be the case that we need javascript support | 18:23 |
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| rluethi | julen: we'll have to figure it out :). | 18:24 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: julen The parser is almost done, I have already made a few commits, a lot of the work is local under progress. I need to clean up and get it pushed soon. | 18:24 |
| dguitarbite | julen: rluethi There is nothing much from my side at present on this topic.. | 18:24 |
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| dguitarbite | #topic any_other_buisness | 18:25 |
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| rluethi | so can you create a working client-side script for keystone? | 18:25 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Almost, let me clean up and push the remaining code by tomorrow evening. | 18:25 |
| julen | using the keystone API? that should be quite simple... | 18:25 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: For the time being you just need to copy paste the *.sh files into the scripts folder. | 18:26 |
| rluethi | julen: generating the setup_keystone.sh script from the install-guide's RST file. | 18:26 |
| julen | aha.. I understand now | 18:26 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: logo. do we qualify? | 18:27 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Realistically speaking, I am not that motivated for the logo at present. There are so many more interesting and important things for me to do. | 18:28 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Do you think its worth spending time on the logo? | 18:28 |
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| julen | rluethi: dguitarbite, which logo? do you have some draft already? | 18:28 |
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| rluethi | dguitarbite: I was hoping that with your connections, it should be too hard to find out if we qualify. | 18:28 |
| dguitarbite | julen: There is some sort of logo initiative for projects under Openstack. | 18:29 |
| julen | rluethi: qualify, for using the openstack image? | 18:29 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: if we do, all we have to do is think of something that fits their scheme and have their illustrator draw it for us. | 18:29 |
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| * dguitarbite is looking like a big shot! Shh... rluethi ;) | 18:29 | |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: How about thinking about this bit for the next release? I will snoop around and see if we qualify | 18:30 |
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| rluethi | I want a praying mantis :). | 18:30 |
| rluethi | it's cute and cuddly like our scripts. | 18:30 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: If we do, then lets decide if we should have the logo. AFAIK, we could also shelter under the Docs banner and logo :D | 18:30 |
| julen | dguitarbite: rluethi, I personally think that it would give a lot of color to the product... look at BOMSI with the "O" looking like a CD and the "I" like a pendrive :) | 18:30 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Alright, praying mantis is ok for me but how in the hell is it cuddly?? I could still think its cute ;( | 18:31 |
| dguitarbite | *;) | 18:31 |
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| rluethi | dguitarbite: A cool mascot is excellent marketing. | 18:31 |
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| rluethi | dguitarbite: kidding, I could live with lots of other logos. | 18:31 |
| julen | rluethi: definitely | 18:31 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Ok Ill push for it. | 18:31 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: but having a professional logo is very helpful for recognition. | 18:32 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: I am fine with the logo, I just would not cuddle a mantis over a panda ;) | 18:32 |
| * dguitarbite was kidding :| like the cuddly cute praying mantis | 18:32 | |
| dguitarbite | Alright anything else that we should think about? | 18:33 |
| dguitarbite | #action dguitarbite Get a praying mantis as the mascot for training-labs | 18:33 |
| dguitarbite | #action rluethi Fix broken shutdown bits for windows | 18:33 |
| dguitarbite | #action dguitarbite publish the parser POC ASAP. Hopefully tomorrow evening. | 18:33 |
| rluethi | julen: as usual, if you have any questions or problems, contact us anytime. | 18:33 |
| julen | #action julen, write the curl script | 18:34 |
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| rluethi | btw, I am still working on the Python port. | 18:34 |
| dguitarbite | #action julen Implement basic UI testing for Horizon | 18:34 |
| rluethi | cleaning up. | 18:34 |
| dguitarbite | #action dguitarbite Roger continue work on python port. | 18:34 |
| dguitarbite | #topic python-port | 18:34 |
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| rluethi | and porting the new features (PXE booting). | 18:34 |
| dguitarbite | #action dguitarbite continue working on python port with lower priority | 18:34 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: I was looking at your repository today early morning :) | 18:35 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: I haven't figured out how to rebase and push the github repo. so the public repo is lagging. | 18:35 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Its going to be tricky for me time wise, but I am going to go into my cave man mode and hybernate with vibrating fingers on my keyboard ... | 18:35 |
| panda | ... | 18:36 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: Lets have a hacking session soon. Do you need to finish this bit before this weekend? | 18:36 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: just wave a magnet over the harddisk and cross your fingers. | 18:36 |
| dguitarbite | panda: My sincere apologizes, I was referencing the panda Po from Kunfu Panda. | 18:36 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: I'll try to fix the Windows part this week. | 18:36 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Alright, so lets have a brief hacking session this weekend. Lets take a look at the python port and also the rebasing issue that you are potentially facing. | 18:37 |
| rluethi | OK | 18:37 |
| dguitarbite | as of python port, rluethi do you want to finish it by the end of next month? | 18:38 |
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| rluethi | dguitarbite: I want to finish it today, but forecasts are difficult. | 18:38 |
| rluethi | first, catch up with osbash again. | 18:38 |
| rluethi | second, clean up enough that it can be submitted and merged. | 18:39 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Ok, lets think about the forecast bits later, once we finish the work ;) | 18:39 |
| rluethi | I don't know how much time that will take nor how much time I will have in the weeks to come. | 18:39 |
| rluethi | but I would like to merge it asap. | 18:39 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Lets do a syncup later on on this topic. | 18:39 |
| dguitarbite | #topic last words before the meeting ends | 18:40 |
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| julen | I'm good | 18:40 |
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| rluethi | last words. | 18:41 |
| rluethi | see you next week. | 18:41 |
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| julen | see you guys... | 18:41 |
| dguitarbite | See you guys. | 18:41 |
| dguitarbite | Thanks for the awesome work! | 18:41 |
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| dguitarbite | #endmeeting | 18:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 25 18:41:40 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-07-25-18.00.html | 18:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-07-25-18.00.txt | 18:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-07-25-18.00.log.html | 18:41 |
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| diazjf | #startmeeting barbican | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 25 20:00:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is diazjf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:00 |
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| woodster_ | o/ | 20:00 |
| diazjf | #topic Roll Call | 20:00 |
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| kfarr | o/ | 20:01 |
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| diazjf | Very low attendance today :( | 20:02 |
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| diazjf | I'll start from last meetings items #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-07-18-20.01.txt | 20:02 |
| diazjf | Only action item is me chairing | 20:02 |
| diazjf | so we can move on | 20:03 |
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| woodster_ | o/ | 20:03 |
| diazjf | Barbican agenda can be found here #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican | 20:03 |
| diazjf | no new topics, so I will make some up | 20:03 |
| diazjf | #topic midcycle | 20:03 |
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| diazjf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barbican-security-midcycle-N | 20:03 |
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| diazjf | It has been confirmed that the midcycle will be at IBM Austin, please make sure to update the topics in the upcoming weeks. | 20:04 |
| diazjf | Dates are Aug 15 - 17 Barbican and Aug 17- 19 Security | 20:04 |
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| diazjf | I will update the midcycle etherpad with hotels and events we can do when everyone is here | 20:05 |
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| diazjf | Any Questions | 20:05 |
| diazjf | ok moving on | 20:06 |
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| diazjf | #topic barbican talks | 20:06 |
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| diazjf | Sometime tomorrow the OpenStack Presentations will be available to vote on. | 20:06 |
| diazjf | I'll make sure everyone gets an email with links to the Barbican presentations :) | 20:06 |
| diazjf | Any questions on this? | 20:07 |
| woodster_ | diazjf: nice! How may presentations are there? | 20:07 |
| * woodster_ barbican-wise that is? | 20:07 | |
| diazjf | woodster_ so far I think we have 2 presentations which involve Barbican. I'm hoping we will find some random ones out there as well :) | 20:08 |
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| diazjf | woodster_ will you be coming to Austin for the midcycle? | 20:09 |
| kfarr | I have one about KMIP! | 20:09 |
| diazjf | kfarr, awesome! that makes 3 | 20:09 |
| woodster_ | diazjf: At least for one of the days I believe so | 20:09 |
| diazjf | woodster_ awesome! | 20:09 |
| diazjf | ok moving on | 20:10 |
| diazjf | #topic open discussion | 20:10 |
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| diazjf | btw I'm chairing today since redrobot it up in Alaska! Hope he's having fun | 20:10 |
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| woodster_ | diazjf: do you know the status of things barbican client? There is a contributor interested in coding for one of the blueprints you had put in a while back... | 20:11 |
| * woodster_ looking for link | 20:11 | |
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| woodster_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-barbicanclient/+spec/add-user-metadata | 20:12 |
| woodster_ | catintheroof: ^^^^ | 20:12 |
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| catintheroof | woodster_, diazjf the thing is that i had the knowledge to code the retrieval of user metadata, but i dont seem to have the knowledge to well-code the setter | 20:13 |
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| diazjf | woodster_ catintheroof let me take a look | 20:13 |
| diazjf | seems like launchpad is down | 20:13 |
| woodster_ | catintheroof: barbican has friendly sherpas to help with things like that :) | 20:14 |
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| alee | o/ | 20:14 |
| woodster_ | diazjf: are you ok with folks helping out with the client code? are you actively working on that code? If not, then only Oz is I think | 20:14 |
| diazjf | catinroof, woodster_ I'd be happy if you could pick that up. In the midcycle we should probably discuss the future of the Barbican Client, there seems to be alot that needs to be changed. I haven't been actively working with the client. | 20:15 |
| diazjf | btw catintheroof is a real cool name :) | 20:15 |
| woodster_ | diazjf: yeah, and I don't know the status of the barbican client vs openstack one | 20:16 |
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| diazjf | #action diazjf to add barbican-client discussion topic to midcycle | 20:16 |
| catintheroof | diazjf, you are just being nice hahahaah well , i can do the getter git review | 20:17 |
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| catintheroof | diazjf, woodster_ and the try to do something with the setter | 20:17 |
| woodster_ | catintheroof: I'm thinking there are example setters in the client code you could take a look at | 20:18 |
| catintheroof | diazjf, woodster_ there are ... but my problem is ... i dont understand them ^_^ | 20:18 |
| catintheroof | diazjf, woodster_ buttttt .... i can use the first free sherpa mile | 20:19 |
| diazjf | catinroof, I'd be happy to do some reviews once the code is up. I'd start by taking a look at https://github.com/openstack/python-barbicanclient/blob/master/barbicanclient/secrets.py since the secretmeta will be pretty similar | 20:20 |
| diazjf | catinroof you would essential map the secret meta api requests to client functions | 20:22 |
| diazjf | catinroof will you attend the midcycle? | 20:22 |
| diazjf | Maybe we can plan some hackathon type to actively help out with the barbican client | 20:22 |
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| diazjf | openstack client still uses the functions from python-barbicanclient | 20:23 |
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| diazjf | Anymore questions anyone? | 20:24 |
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| woodster_ | diazjf: thanks for the clarification | 20:25 |
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| diazjf | woodster_ catintheroof feel free to ping me with anymore question! Hope everyone has a good week! | 20:26 |
| diazjf | See everyone soon | 20:26 |
| diazjf | #endmeeting | 20:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 25 20:26:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-07-25-20.00.html | 20:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-07-25-20.00.txt | 20:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-07-25-20.00.log.html | 20:26 |
| catintheroof | diazjf, thanks for the support ! | 20:26 |
| diazjf | catinroof you're welcome | 20:26 |
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| carolbarrett | #startmeeting product working group | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 25 21:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carolbarrett. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: product working group)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 21:00 |
| carolbarrett | Who's here for today's meeting - I received many emails that folks are on vacation this week. | 21:01 |
| * rcaballeromx1 here. | 21:01 | |
| carolbarrett | Hi | 21:02 |
| rcaballeromx1 | Hi. | 21:02 |
| * MarkBaker here, just back from vacation | 21:02 | |
| carolbarrett | Hi MarkBaker, welcome back! | 21:02 |
| carolbarrett | you can find the agenda for the meeting here | 21:02 |
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| carolbarrett | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team | 21:03 |
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| carolbarrett | I think we've got 4-5 people, let's see what we can get done | 21:04 |
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| carolbarrett | #topic Midcycle Planning | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Midcycle Planning (Meeting topic: product working group)" | 21:04 | |
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| carolbarrett | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PWG_Newton_Midcycle_Planning | 21:05 |
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| carolbarrett | 1st topic is midcycle planning. Let's flip to the etherpad for that | 21:05 |
| rockyg | o/ | 21:05 |
| carolbarrett | If your name isn't on the list of attendees, but you plan to attend, pls add it. I'll give this list to the security folks at the office location so we all have access | 21:05 |
| rockyg | anyone here? | 21:06 |
| carolbarrett | Yes, we're here | 21:06 |
| rockyg | Yes! | 21:06 |
| carolbarrett | On the midcycle, let's add length of discuss time for each item | 21:07 |
| carolbarrett | Hi RockyG | 21:07 |
| carolbarrett | Can everyone access the planning etherpad? | 21:07 |
| * rcaballeromx1 yes. | 21:07 | |
| KrishR | yes | 21:08 |
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| carolbarrett | Great | 21:08 |
| carolbarrett | Pls add your thoughts on how long we should spend on each topic in the etherpad. | 21:09 |
| mkashyap | Tangential question - Is it possible to attend the midcycle meeting remotely? | 21:11 |
| carolbarrett | That's on lines 27-32 | 21:11 |
| carolbarrett | mkashyap: there might be, I need to find out what telecomm capabilities the facilities have. Pls add your name to the attendees list and add remote after your name. | 21:12 |
| carolbarrett | Good question! | 21:12 |
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| rcaballeromx1 | What exaclty is meant with top 5 user Story? | 21:12 |
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| mkashyap | carolbarrett: thank you | 21:13 |
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| carolbarrett | rcaballeromx1: I'm not sure who added this, but my understanding is it's to get status update and discuss plans for Ocata Design Summit and actions needed to be prepared. | 21:13 |
| carolbarrett | The top 5 user stories are: Rolling Upgrade HA VM Baremetal Fleet Management Capacity Management | 21:13 |
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| rcaballeromx1 | Ok, does it include any discussion for the different user types? | 21:14 |
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| carolbarrett | rcaballeromx1: meaning personas? | 21:14 |
| rcaballeromx1 | Yes. | 21:14 |
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| rcaballeromx1 | Or better said, do you already have those five user stories or are they meant to be created and discussed then? | 21:15 |
| carolbarrett | The User Story (should) use the personas involved in the story. If you think that it's not complete, then we should discuss the gaps with the user story owner | 21:15 |
| carolbarrett | The 5 user stories are written and you can find them in our repo, located here | 21:16 |
| rcaballeromx1 | I'll take a look then. | 21:16 |
| carolbarrett | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-user-stories/ | 21:16 |
| rcaballeromx1 | Thanks. | 21:17 |
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| carolbarrett | rcaballeromx1: Would be interested in your comments and help on improving them as well as advancing them (gaps analysis and implementation) | 21:17 |
| rcaballeromx1 | I see that it is a spec. We can certainly look into creating this content for the repo... | 21:18 |
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| rcaballeromx1 | I'll ping you after I have reviewed the spec. | 21:18 |
| carolbarrett | here's the repo link | 21:18 |
| carolbarrett | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-user-stories | 21:18 |
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| carolbarrett | I don't think any of the topic owners are here, so will push the discussion on time and prework to next week | 21:19 |
| carolbarrett | anything else on midcycle? | 21:19 |
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| carolbarrett | OK - moving on | 21:20 |
| carolbarrett | #topic Ops Midcycle | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ops Midcycle (Meeting topic: product working group)" | 21:20 | |
| carolbarrett | Has anyone found the agenda for this? | 21:20 |
| rockyg | Uh. Just unspaced. We should remove references to Seattle from the etherpad | 21:20 |
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| carolbarrett | rockyg: good point, took out the whole line | 21:20 |
| rockyg | They usually have an etherpad for sessions, but I haven't seen a link posted. | 21:21 |
| KrishR | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NYC-ops-meetup | 21:21 |
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| rockyg | Thanks, KrishR | 21:21 |
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| carolbarrett | Thanks KrishR | 21:21 |
| rcaballeromx1 | That looks rather empty though... | 21:22 |
| carolbarrett | Do we want to propose any sessions? | 21:22 |
| KrishR | I'm talking to the Craton team about proposing a fleet mgmt session | 21:23 |
| rockyg | I don't think it's gotten much advertisement yet. If I don't see an email on it, I'll post the request for session topics later today on the ops ml | 21:23 |
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| carolbarrett | rcaballeromx1: agree...The Ops team has their team meeting tomorrow (7:00 AM Pacific). I'll try to make it and see what their status and process is | 21:23 |
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| carolbarrett | rockyg: I had pinged TomF a week or so ago and it sounded like they had a draft agenda...but I couldn't find it when I searched the Ops meeting logs | 21:24 |
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| carolbarrett | KrishR: Would you want to get more info for the Fleet Management User STory? | 21:24 |
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| * rockyg wonders if it's me, freenode or all of us causing the slowness today. | 21:25 | |
| carolbarrett | good question! :) | 21:26 |
| carolbarrett | We'll revisit this one next week - let's move on | 21:26 |
| carolbarrett | #topic CPL Updates | 21:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CPL Updates (Meeting topic: product working group)" | 21:26 | |
| KrishR | carolbarrett: i've asked the Craton team to review the Fleet mgmt user story and suggest improvements | 21:26 |
| carolbarrett | Anyone want to volunteer to provide an update on the Project they are a CPL for? | 21:26 |
| carolbarrett | KrishR: OK | 21:27 |
| KrishR | carolbarrett: i could do Telemetry | 21:27 |
| carolbarrett | KrishR: That would be great! Next week OK? | 21:27 |
| KrishR | sure | 21:27 |
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| carolbarrett | Thanks | 21:28 |
| carolbarrett | Anyone else? | 21:28 |
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| carolbarrett | OK - moving on | 21:28 |
| carolbarrett | #topic Open Changes in the Repo | 21:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Changes in the Repo (Meeting topic: product working group)" | 21:29 | |
| carolbarrett | I know we've had some reviews open for a couple of weeks, and are wanting to close them out. | 21:29 |
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| carolbarrett | I think Arkady is looking for comments for Configuration addition for RefStack and DevCore | 21:31 |
| carolbarrett | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300057/ | 21:31 |
| rockyg | I should look at that | 21:31 |
| carolbarrett | rockyg: would be good to get your thoughts on it | 21:32 |
| carolbarrett | This is also a new one | 21:32 |
| carolbarrett | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317695/ | 21:32 |
| carolbarrett | Common Failure Reporting User Story | 21:32 |
| rockyg | Kenny added that after the Fault Genes WG got formed | 21:33 |
| carolbarrett | Anyone have questions about user stories or what's needed for the reviews? | 21:33 |
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| mkashyap | Carolbarrett: can you recap or point to a doc? | 21:35 |
| carolbarrett | OK - I'm going to skip User Story reviews, because I don't think any of the owners are here | 21:35 |
| carolbarrett | OK - I'm going to skip User Story reviews, because I don't think any of the owners are here.. | 21:35 |
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| carolbarrett | #topic Opens | 21:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Opens (Meeting topic: product working group)" | 21:35 | |
| carolbarrett | Anyone have any opens to share? | 21:35 |
| rcaballeromx1 | Is it ok for me to go over the user stories and add the personas perspective? | 21:36 |
| carolbarrett | rcaballeromx1: Yes, go ahead and add comments to the user stories or get in touch with the owner to discuss | 21:37 |
| rcaballeromx1 | Ok, thanks. | 21:37 |
| carolbarrett | Sure, happy for your help! | 21:37 |
| carolbarrett | Anyone else have opens? | 21:37 |
| rockyg | ++ rcaballeromx1 Go for it! | 21:38 |
| rockyg | I'd like to share | 21:38 |
| carolbarrett | pls do! | 21:38 |
| rockyg | There is a multivendor effort starting that is being called the "Interop Challenge" | 21:39 |
| rcaballeromx1 | rockyg: Will do, I'm happy to do code reviews, just add me as a reviewer if you have anything that I should check out. | 21:39 |
| rockyg | It is looking at developing typical workflow apps for different segments of the OpenStack markets | 21:39 |
| rockyg | It will use common opensource tools | 21:39 |
| rockyg | First tagets appear to be: socker swarms, DB backed web app | 21:40 |
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| rockyg | NFV app | 21:40 |
| * MarkBaker 's ears prick up | 21:40 | |
| rockyg | and may I just say the IRC seems to suck today? | 21:40 |
| * rcaballeromx1 agrees IRC is slow today... | 21:41 | |
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| mkashyap | rockyg: can you point to some links? | 21:42 |
| carolbarrett | rockyg: I was on the kick off call last week and just saw a doodle for the next meeting | 21:42 |
| MarkBaker | mkashyap, https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9udXv_O5_TsaktrSm5uNlAtVFZZWTZkck8xZ0ItcEprMlBj | 21:42 |
| rcaballeromx1 | I found the news story: #link http://www.thoughtsoncloud.com/2016/04/ibm-issues-interop-challenge-fellow-openstack-vendors/ | 21:42 |
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| mkashyap | thank you | 21:43 |
| carolbarrett | rockgy: Thanks - anything else on this one? | 21:43 |
| rockyg | I am finding IRC impossible at the moment, but want to say that the team is meeting every other week and we hope to have something to talk about by Barcelona | 21:44 |
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| carolbarrett | rockyg: Thanks. As this group moves forward, pls let us know if there's something we should do to collaborate or support them | 21:45 |
| rockyg | Will do. | 21:46 |
| carolbarrett | Anything else from any one? | 21:46 |
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| carolbarrett | Ok - Then let's call this one done. | 21:47 |
| carolbarrett | Thanks for coming and we'll type again next week, or sooner! | 21:47 |
| rockyg | Thanks, all! | 21:47 |
| carolbarrett | #endmeeting | 21:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:48 | |
| rcaballeromx1 | See you guys. | 21:48 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 25 21:48:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-07-25-21.00.html | 21:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-07-25-21.00.txt | 21:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2016/product_working_group.2016-07-25-21.00.log.html | 21:48 |
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