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| devkulkarni2 | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 14:00:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 14:00 |
| devkulkarni2 | #topic Roll Call | 14:00 |
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| devkulkarni2 | Devdatta Kulkarni | 14:01 |
| caowei | hi | 14:01 |
| devkulkarni2 | hi caowei | 14:01 |
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| Ablu | hi | 14:02 |
| devkulkarni2 | hi Ablu | 14:02 |
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| caowei | hi Sunny | 14:03 |
| devkulkarni2 | here is agenda for today's meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-06-29_1400_UTC | 14:03 |
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| devkulkarni2 | #topic Announcements | 14:03 |
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| devkulkarni2 | 1) Webinar on June 29, 2016 (today) http://www.midokura.com/Webinars/ at 10 AM PT/ 1 PM ET | 14:03 |
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| devkulkarni2 | I will be doing the Webinar today in couple of hours. | 14:04 |
| Sunny | Hi Caowei | 14:04 |
| devkulkarni2 | I have recorded some screen casts over last couple of days | 14:04 |
| devkulkarni2 | showing capabilities of Solum | 14:04 |
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| devkulkarni2 | you can find them on our main wiki page | 14:04 |
| devkulkarni2 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum#Resources | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni2 | Check under Resources | 14:05 |
| devkulkarni2 | I have a presentation prepared as well | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni2 | it is pretty much what I did at the OpenStack summit in Austin (with some changes) | 14:06 |
| devkulkarni2 | will share it on slideshare once the webinar is over | 14:06 |
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| devkulkarni2 | the main use cases that I am planning to focus on are: 1) deploying app from CLI 2) triggering app deployment from github trigger | 14:07 |
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| devkulkarni2 | lets see how it goes | 14:07 |
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| devkulkarni2 | Second announcement is | 14:08 |
| devkulkarni2 | 2) I will be traveling next two weeks. I plan to be online as much as possible. But in case I am not able to vijendar has agreed to run our weekly meeting in my absence. | 14:08 |
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| devkulkarni2 | If you don't see me online and have a burning question, please send me an email | 14:08 |
| devkulkarni2 | I will be checking my emails regularly | 14:09 |
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| devkulkarni2 | those were the announcements from my side | 14:09 |
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| Ablu | starting with next monday? Or from tomorrow? | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni2 | starting next monday | 14:09 |
| devkulkarni2 | July 4th | 14:09 |
| Ablu | alright | 14:09 |
| Ablu | another month over... | 14:10 |
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| devkulkarni2 | specifically, July 4th - July 19th | 14:10 |
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| devkulkarni2 | Ablu: if you don't see me online but want to discuss/brainstorm or have questions, just send me an email | 14:10 |
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| Ablu | alright | 14:11 |
| Ablu | hi pt_15 | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni2 | same goes for caowei Sunny and rest | 14:11 |
| pt_15 | hi Ablu! | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni2 | hi pt_15 | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni2 | good to see you | 14:11 |
| pt_15 | Hey devkulkarni2! | 14:11 |
| pt_15 | yeah, sorry I'm slightly late | 14:11 |
| devkulkarni2 | alright | 14:11 |
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| devkulkarni2 | any announcement from any of you? | 14:12 |
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| Ablu | I hacked together a very basic packer invoker :P | 14:12 |
| devkulkarni2 | oh nice !! | 14:13 |
| Ablu | it seems to work so far | 14:13 |
| pt_15 | well, I have submitted a patch for the languagepackes, and it would be great if you guys could take a look at it, since I'm actually a bit stuck :) | 14:13 |
| pt_15 | * languagepacks | 14:13 |
| Ablu | So if you have a minute or two before you leave for traveling it would be cool if we could discuss further steps | 14:13 |
| devkulkarni2 | Ablu: absolutely | 14:13 |
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| devkulkarni2 | today is bit bad day unfortunately as I am going to be busy with the webinar in the morning and then have to get my Mac updated with latest version of OSX | 14:14 |
| devkulkarni2 | how about we plan to discuss the next steps sometime tomorrow and continue on friday? | 14:15 |
| devkulkarni2 | Ablu: btw, if you can submit the packer handler as WIP patch I can start to take a look at it | 14:15 |
| Ablu | devkulkarni2: sure | 14:15 |
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| Ablu | that gives me enough time to clean it up a bit | 14:15 |
| Ablu | devkulkarni2: yeah i will | 14:15 |
| devkulkarni2 | perfect | 14:16 |
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| Ablu | i just got so far that it starts the packer build | 14:16 |
| devkulkarni2 | cool | 14:16 |
| devkulkarni2 | pt_15: ack | 14:16 |
| devkulkarni2 | before I forget there is one more announcement | 14:16 |
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| devkulkarni2 | Ablu put together steps to run and debug solum code from within Pycharm | 14:16 |
| devkulkarni2 | you can find them here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-pycharm-debugging-setup | 14:17 |
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| devkulkarni2 | I plan to move these to our development wiki page on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Solum/solum-development-setup | 14:17 |
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| devkulkarni2 | thanks Ablu for the steps | 14:17 |
| devkulkarni2 | pt_15: so about your patch.. | 14:18 |
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| devkulkarni2 | can you provide details on what the patch does, where are you stuck, etc. | 14:19 |
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| pt_15 | devkulkarni2: yeah, sure | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni2 | lets discuss is right now | 14:19 |
| devkulkarni2 | I had it listed in our patch review topic for today, so this is good time to discuss about it | 14:19 |
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| pt_15 | right now the patch adds code to display and create languagepacks | 14:20 |
| pt_15 | But, I am running into some errors with it | 14:20 |
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| pt_15 | I keep getting internal server error in the logs for create | 14:20 |
| devkulkarni2 | what kind of errors? | 14:20 |
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| pt_15 | I get the horizon ui and everything, but then it throws an error on the ui that danger: error occured, and the logs show internal server error | 14:21 |
| devkulkarni2 | which logs are these? | 14:21 |
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| devkulkarni2 | are these solum-api logs or horizon logs? | 14:21 |
| devkulkarni2 | to begin with, is the code able to connect to solum languagepack api? | 14:22 |
| pt_15 | horizon logs | 14:22 |
| devkulkarni2 | do you have the log stack trace? | 14:22 |
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| pt_15 | I think so, since in the case of create it doesn't actually call the api till after getting the details, but this error occurs before that | 14:23 |
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| pt_15 | paste.openstack.org/show/524060/ | 14:24 |
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| devkulkarni2 | lets not worry about create for now as that is bit advanced .. from the UI you need to do a POST call. Lets concentrate on GET as that is the most basic all. Lets say you have created an lp using the cli.. the most basic functionality that you should try to get working is the languagepack show .. it should display the languagepack that you created using the cli. Is the code able to do this? | 14:25 |
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| pt_15 | I haven't added the show part yet, only the list part. I am working on the show part now | 14:26 |
| devkulkarni2 | ok, so list is working? | 14:26 |
| pt_15 | Yeah | 14:26 |
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| devkulkarni2 | pt_15: ok. in that case let me suggest something.. please submit a patch that contains only the code required for list | 14:27 |
| devkulkarni2 | you should anyways not put all the code in a single patch | 14:27 |
| devkulkarni2 | create separate patches for list, create, show, delete | 14:27 |
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| devkulkarni2 | please create separate bugs for each of these operations | 14:28 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni2: oh ok, cool, I'll submit a patch just for the list then | 14:28 |
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| devkulkarni2 | in each of the bug please add exact steps of how to load the patch code in horizon and how to test it | 14:28 |
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| devkulkarni2 | as far as order of patches go — I would suggest you do them in order of increasing complexity | 14:29 |
| devkulkarni2 | 1) List; 2) Show; 3) Delete; 4) Create | 14:29 |
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| devkulkarni2 | to test show and delete, you can create a lp using the cli and then use your ui patches | 14:29 |
| pt_15 | Ok, cool, so should I let create be for a little while, come back to that after the others are done? | 14:29 |
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| devkulkarni2 | yes, don't worry about create till you have list, show, and delete working.. the main reason is that for create you need to take input and do a POST call from the ui .. that is going to be most complex amongst the four operations | 14:30 |
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| pt_15 | ok, cool, that makes sense :) | 14:31 |
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| devkulkarni2 | in your commit messages, please add details regarding what problem the patch is solving, a brief note about the solution, and link to the bug that you will create | 14:32 |
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| devkulkarni2 | please read this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages for improving your commit messages | 14:33 |
| pt_15 | ok, sure! | 14:33 |
| devkulkarni2 | pt_15: also, you want to get into habit of resolving pep8 errors | 14:34 |
| devkulkarni2 | the reason is that many times reviewers will not look at a patch until Jenkins has given +1 | 14:34 |
| devkulkarni2 | so you want to make sure that your patch always gets a +1 from Jenkins | 14:34 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni2: oh ok, I didn't realise that :) | 14:34 |
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| devkulkarni2 | ok, I will look forward to your separate patches for lp operations | 14:35 |
| pt_15 | devkulkarni2: great! :D | 14:36 |
| devkulkarni2 | any one else wants to discuss about any patches/code that they are working on? | 14:36 |
| devkulkarni2 | caowei: how is it going with your docker registry based approach? any progress/blockers? | 14:37 |
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| devkulkarni2 | alright | 14:38 |
| devkulkarni2 | next topic is bug review | 14:38 |
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| devkulkarni2 | #Bug Review | 14:38 |
| devkulkarni2 | #topic Bug Review | 14:38 |
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| devkulkarni2 | Here are some recent bugs | 14:38 |
| devkulkarni2 | 1) raw_input not compatible with Py3? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-solumclient/+bug/1596135 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596135 in vmware-nsx "Make raw_input py3 compatible" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Ji.Wei (jiwei) | 14:39 |
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| devkulkarni2 | 2) Git clone timeout https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1595069 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1595069 in Solum "git clone timeout" [Undecided,New] | 14:39 |
| devkulkarni2 | 3) App delete failure due to Foreign key constraint issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1589365 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1589365 in Solum "solum app delete fails" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to caowei (caowei-e) | 14:39 |
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| devkulkarni2 | 4) App delete failure due to Heat stack delete failure https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1583813 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583813 in Solum "app-delete-fails-to-delete-app-if-heat-stack-delete-fails" [Undecided,New] | 14:39 |
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| devkulkarni2 | Let me know if any of you would like to volunteer to take up any of these bugs | 14:40 |
| devkulkarni2 | Its a good way to start building understanding about the code | 14:41 |
| devkulkarni2 | are there any bugs that you intended to file but have not yet filed? | 14:42 |
| caowei | devkulkarni: Why not speak some cases which solum is how to use in the current openstack environment in the summit. | 14:42 |
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| devkulkarni2 | caowei: you mean cover how to use solum in a typical openstack environment? | 14:44 |
| * Ablu is semiafk from now on | 14:45 | |
| caowei | yes | 14:45 |
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| devkulkarni2 | good point, and yes, I am planning to cover that .. basically, I have a slide which shows various backends that Solum supports for storing LPs and DUs and also showing the various deployment options .. these will sort of cover different options that are possible in a typical OpenStack environment. | 14:47 |
| devkulkarni2 | does that answer your question? | 14:48 |
| caowei | devkulkarni: My environment docker registry can already be used,but blocked in head. | 14:49 |
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| devkulkarni2 | caowei: sorry, I did not follow that. where exactly are you blocked? we can work through it.. | 14:49 |
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| devkulkarni2 | caowei: btw, earlier did you mean to submit a summit talk for Barelona on how to use Solum in a typical OpenStack environment? | 14:50 |
| devkulkarni2 | correction: did you mean that it would be good to submit a talk for Barcelona on how to use Solum in a typical OpenStack environment? | 14:51 |
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| devkulkarni2 | on the topic of summit, here is the etherpad where we are collecting different topics that we can submit for the summit | 14:52 |
| devkulkarni2 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/solum-barcelona-2016 | 14:52 |
| devkulkarni2 | Towards the end (line 79) you will find a title and abstract of one talk that we will definitely submit | 14:53 |
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| devkulkarni2 | if you have any ideas on any potential submission, please add them to the etherpad | 14:54 |
| devkulkarni2 | we can work through them | 14:54 |
| devkulkarni2 | submission deadline is July 13th | 14:55 |
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| caowei | I have not been deployed successfully,this time is busy with the company's projects. | 14:56 |
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| devkulkarni2 | caowei: sure, I can understand | 14:56 |
| devkulkarni2 | caowei: let me know when you get back to trying the deployment | 14:56 |
| devkulkarni2 | we can work through it | 14:56 |
| devkulkarni2 | alright.. we are almost at the end of our meeting time | 14:57 |
| devkulkarni2 | is there anything else that you want to discuss today? | 14:57 |
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| Ablu | Not from my side | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni2 | if not, will catch up sometime next week | 14:58 |
| devkulkarni2 | remember that I am going to be traveling between July 4 - July 19 .. will be back as usual on July 20th | 14:59 |
| devkulkarni2 | during the travel period, I will try to be online as much as possible | 14:59 |
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| devkulkarni2 | and vijendar will run our meetings if I am not able to | 14:59 |
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| devkulkarni2 | thanks Ablu, caowei, pt_15 for joining today | 15:00 |
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| devkulkarni2 | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 15:00:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-06-29-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-06-29-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-06-29-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| rkukura | hi ML2’ers! | 16:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 16:00 |
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| andreas_s_ | o/ | 16:00 |
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| rkukura | Is Sukhdev here? | 16:01 |
| Sukhdev | yes | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | ready to start? | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | on a customer call - so, will be in and out | 16:03 |
| rkukura | We’ve got enough of the regulars I think | 16:03 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 16:03:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:03 |
| rkukura | #topic Agenda | 16:03 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_June_29.2C_2016 | 16:04 |
| rkukura | Fairly light agenda today - does anyone want to add anything? | 16:04 |
| andreas_s_ | I want to give a brief update on distributed portbinding for live migration | 16:04 |
| andreas_s_ | really brief :) | 16:04 |
| rkukura | andreas_s_: I was going to ask you if you wanted to do that | 16:04 |
| rkukura | lets do that just before the feature requests | 16:05 |
| rkukura | anything else on the agenda? | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | #topic Announcements | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | I don’t have any announcements - does anyone else? | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | I have not been following the neutron IRC meetings the past couple weeks, so please let us know if there are immentant milestones we shoud be aware of | 16:06 |
| rkukura | immenant, I think was the word | 16:06 |
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| rkukura | if not… | 16:07 |
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| andreas_s_ | I don't remember anything urgent, but I'm also not a regular participant ;) | 16:07 |
| rkukura | #topic Feature Requests | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | So there are 3 feature request bugs on the agenda that we wanted to discuss | 16:08 |
| rkukura | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1583096 | 16:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583096 in neutron "ml2 supported extensions list is inaccurate" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:08 |
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| rkukura | I added my thoughts as a comment on this bug a little while ago | 16:08 |
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| yamamoto | a problem is the current ext-list can't express complex deployment like heterogeneous ones | 16:10 |
| rkukura | In my view, the presence of mechanism drivers and their individual capabilities is not what should determine which API extensions the ML2 plugin supports, since different combination of drivers might support different sets of extensions. I think this is really the same issue we’ve discussed before about needing to enforce extension semantics. | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | I view the ext-list as expressing what the API supports, not necessarily what the set of drivers involved for some specific port might support. | 16:11 |
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| rkukura | Ideally, ML2 would use extension drivers for all of its extension implementations, and the admin could configure only those EDs that are applicable in that deployment, but it still might be heterogenous and have cases, like bare metal or SR-IOV where not all semantics are available for certain ports. | 16:12 |
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| rkukura | In my bug comment, I tried to describe an example of security groups with normal KVM+OVS, KVM+SR-IOV, and baremetal, and where a ToR switch MD might be able to enforce some SG rules, but not all. | 16:15 |
| rkukura | Any other thoughts on this? Or should we just continue the discussion on the bug for now, and revisit it next week? | 16:16 |
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| andreas_s_ | rkukura, so are you suggesting to mark it as invalid? | 16:16 |
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| andreas_s_ | cause it sounds like there's no good solution... | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | andreas_s_: I do not think any one MD can determine whether or not any particular extension should be in the list | 16:17 |
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| rkukura | I have been proposing that port binding enforce extension value semantics | 16:17 |
| andreas_s_ | ok | 16:18 |
| rkukura | But orthgonally to that, it might make sense to start packaging extensions as EDs so that the admin can decide which ones are applicable, and that this would allow the admin to control what is in the ext-list. | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | I will add another comment to the bug to try to capture that 2nd proposal as a partial solution. | 16:19 |
| rkukura | Any other thoughts on this? | 16:19 |
| yamamoto | rkukura: in your view tempest agent-extension test should be fixed? it asserts dhcp-agent is running if the extension is expressed. | 16:19 |
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| rkukura | yamamoto: that sounds wrong to me - the tempest tests should not make any assumtions about how the API sematics are implemented | 16:21 |
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| yamamoto | rkukura: my opinion is agent-list returning an empty list is fine, esp. for api tests. but there are people who disagree. | 16:22 |
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| rkukura | It seems to me that more and more neutron backends are moving towards implementing things like DHCP, routing, etc., without using the reference agents for this. | 16:24 |
| yamamoto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1509590 | 16:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1509590 in tempest "some tests assume existance of some agents" [Undecided,Invalid] - Assigned to YAMAMOTO Takashi (yamamoto) | 16:24 |
| rkukura | I guess tempest tests that are intended only for a specific reference implemantation could make those sorts of assumptions, but general tempest tests shoud not. | 16:25 |
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| rkukura | Any other discussion on this feature request right now, or should we move on? | 16:25 |
| yamamoto | let's move on | 16:26 |
| rkukura | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1587401 | 16:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1587401 in neutron "Helper method to change status of port to abnormal state is needed in ml2." [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 16:26 |
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| rkukura | I feel this is something worth addressing, and needs a good proposal that takes into account HPB and other scenarios with multiple MDs involved in the same resource. | 16:28 |
| rkukura | ajo added a comment that also kind of gets to the extension semantic enforcement issue we were discussing above | 16:29 |
| yamamoto | i was thinking to allow each MD to do context.set_status(ERROR) and the plugin accumulates them. | 16:30 |
| ajo | in the qos context, it happens that sometimes you can't detect if a qos rule is not appliable to a port until you buind it | 16:30 |
| ajo | bind it, sorry | 16:31 |
| ajo | for example if you have ovs & sr-iov in the same deployment | 16:31 |
| ajo | so... | 16:31 |
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| ajo | in that context it could make sense to let the port work, but mark it as abnormal (for example) but some extended information (why is it abnormal) could be interesting too | 16:31 |
| ajo | (x-type of rule can't be applied to an sr-iov port) | 16:31 |
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| rkukura | At least in a bound port, the status seems like it should be determined by the set of MDs involved in its binding, so maybe the plugin should just query each of those drivers to obtain the status. If this is soming that changes dynamically, it has to happen during gets, not just when ports are created or updated. | 16:32 |
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| rkukura | ajo: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1583096 for some related thoughts on enforcing semantics of extensions such as QoS during port binding. | 16:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583096 in neutron "ml2 supported extensions list is inaccurate" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:33 |
| rkukura | and afterward | 16:33 |
| ajo | thanks rkukura will do | 16:34 |
| rkukura | On https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1587401, I think we need someone to work up a specific proposal, figuring out whether the status would be pushed or polled, etc., and maybe how to provide additional information. | 16:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1587401 in neutron "Helper method to change status of port to abnormal state is needed in ml2." [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 16:34 |
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| rkukura | I guess we can leave this bug as confirmed but unassigned until someone decides to work on it. | 16:37 |
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| yamamoto | rkukura: do you think how it should be shown to api user? as an aggregated status? | 16:38 |
| yamamoto | or eg. a set of status? | 16:38 |
| rkukura | yamamoto: I’m not sure. | 16:38 |
| rkukura | I think the overall status needs to remain as-is in the API, but something with more detail could be added. | 16:39 |
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| rkukura | Ready to move on? | 16:40 |
| yamamoto | yes | 16:40 |
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| rkukura | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1592238 | 16:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1592238 in neutron "[RFE] ml2: needs a way for MD to pass data from precommit to postcommit" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Li Ma (nick-ma-z) | 16:40 |
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| rkukura | I added some comments to the code review and the bug. I’m fine with the idea of adding a dict for this purpose, but would like to see it included in the driver_api.py abstract class so its clearly part of the official API. | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | Any other thoughts on this one? | 16:42 |
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| rkukura | And does anyone know Li Ma’s IRC handle? | 16:42 |
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| andreas_s_ | no, don't know | 16:43 |
| rkukura | Feel free to review the code and/or add comments to the bug. | 16:43 |
| rkukura | oops - forgot to cover the distirbuted port binding status before the feature requests | 16:44 |
| rkukura | #topic Distributed Port Binding Status | 16:44 |
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| rkukura | andreas_s_: Do you want to update us? | 16:44 |
| andreas_s_ | sure | 16:44 |
| andreas_s_ | so db patches are still WIP | 16:45 |
| andreas_s_ | I moved the code to ovo and got feedback that it looks good | 16:45 |
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| andreas_s_ | now started working on the dvr parts | 16:45 |
| rkukura | andreas_s_: I’d like to have a look at that - I’ve been kind of dubious about OVO for this sort of thing, and want to see how it works out | 16:45 |
| yamamoto | rkukura: li ma's nick is nick-ma iirc | 16:46 |
| rkukura | yamamoto: thanks | 16:46 |
| andreas_s_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/333218 | 16:46 |
| andreas_s_ | rkukura, ^ | 16:46 |
| andreas_s_ | that's the ovo on top of my original patch - will squash those 2 later on | 16:46 |
| rkukura | andreas_s_: ok, will try to make sense of it in the mean time | 16:47 |
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| andreas_s_ | I was attending the nova live migration meeting on tuesday | 16:47 |
| andreas_s_ | to discuss how nova could exploit the distributed ports for live migration | 16:47 |
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| andreas_s_ | we put that topic on the agenda for the nova midcycle around 20th of July | 16:48 |
| andreas_s_ | so getting some technical feedback on the specs would be great | 16:48 |
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| andreas_s_ | before that summit | 16:48 |
| andreas_s_ | *midcycle | 16:49 |
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| rkukura | andreas_s_: makes sense | 16:49 |
| andreas_s_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/309416 | 16:49 |
| rkukura | was the two sets of competing patches resolved by merging the rename patches first? | 16:49 |
| andreas_s_ | probably armax and carl_baldwin will attend and discuss it with nova folks there | 16:50 |
| andreas_s_ | rkukura, yeah the renaming patch landed | 16:50 |
| rkukura | where is the mid-cycle? | 16:50 |
| andreas_s_ | I must admit I don't know | 16:51 |
| andreas_s_ | rkukura, Intel - Hillsboro, OR, USA | 16:51 |
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| rkukura | thanks | 16:51 |
| rkukura | andreas_s_: thanks for the update - anything more before open discussion? | 16:52 |
| andreas_s_ | so if you have any serious doubts that the concept with live migration will not work out, please speak up :) | 16:52 |
| andreas_s_ | no | 16:52 |
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| rkukura | andreas_s_: Is this using OVO to do on-demand migration of the schema? | 16:53 |
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| yamamoto | on-line you mean? | 16:53 |
| andreas_s_ | rkukura, what do you mean with on-demand migration? | 16:54 |
| andreas_s_ | ah schema, so you're talking about the db | 16:54 |
| andreas_s_ | it's still using the alembic stuff. | 16:54 |
| rkukura | I could easily be wrong, but was under the impression that with OVO you don’t run a migration script that moves all the data at once, but instead individual records get migrated as they are accessed. | 16:55 |
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| andreas_s_ | no, that's not yet the case | 16:55 |
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| andreas_s_ | might be in the future | 16:55 |
| rkukura | So for now, its just making the code work with either the old or new schema? | 16:55 |
| andreas_s_ | ihar told me that the new migration approach will not land before ocata | 16:55 |
| andreas_s_ | yes, with the new schema | 16:56 |
| andreas_s_ | the underlying patch includes the alembic scripts that move the data and delete the old columns | 16:56 |
| rkukura | ok, I’m not as concerned with this part of it then. I will try to review the patches ASAP. | 16:57 |
| andreas_s_ | so there's still some downtime during upgrade | 16:57 |
| rkukura | we are about out of time - anything else on this? | 16:57 |
| andreas_s_ | rkukura, let me ping you when I merged both together - cause this will be the final state | 16:57 |
| rkukura | andreas_s_: thanks - please do | 16:57 |
| andreas_s_ | no, I'm done | 16:57 |
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| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:57 |
| andreas_s_ | thanks! | 16:57 |
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| rkukura | anything to discuss? | 16:58 |
| yamamoto | nothing from me | 16:58 |
| rkukura | anyone else? | 16:58 |
| rkukura | Thanks everyone! | 16:58 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| andreas_s_ | thank you! Bye! | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 16:59:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-06-29-16.03.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-06-29-16.03.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2016/networking_ml2.2016-06-29-16.03.log.html | 16:59 |
| rkukura | bye | 16:59 |
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| yamamoto | bye | 16:59 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 17:01:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:01 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 17:01 |
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| Kiall | o/ mugise over the partition, just now, "oh s***" ;) | 17:01 |
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| sonuk | o/ | 17:02 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:02 |
| mugsie | timsim: elarson pglass rsyed federico3 : courtesy ping | 17:02 |
| federico3 | pong | 17:02 |
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| mugsie | timsim: rest of RAX joining? | 17:03 |
| timsim | Yeah they should be aroundish | 17:03 |
| mugsie | 'ISH' :P | 17:04 |
| mugsie | - caps | 17:04 |
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| mugsie | OK | 17:04 |
| mugsie | #topic Announcements | 17:04 |
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| pglass | o/ | 17:04 |
| mugsie | n-2 is in 2 weeks | 17:05 |
| mugsie | tahts all I have | 17:05 |
| mugsie | anyone else have any announcements? | 17:05 |
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| mugsie | take that as no :) | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #topcu Action Items | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #topic Action Items | 17:06 |
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| mugsie | I see I got actioned | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie to bp a6d7ee9 | 17:06 |
| mugsie | thats is it | 17:06 |
| mugsie | #topic bug triage | 17:06 |
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| timsim | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1595265 | 17:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1595265 in Designate "TXT record data length limit is too short" [Undecided,New] | 17:07 |
| Kiall | I think we already have a bug for that | 17:07 |
| mugsie | its closed | 17:07 |
| Kiall | No, a diff one | 17:07 |
| Kiall | 1 sec | 17:07 |
| mugsie | oh | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1474012 is closed alright | 17:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1474012 in Designate "Incorrect length limit for TXT record data" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Federico Ceratto (federico-ceratto) | 17:08 |
| mugsie | I think this is more of a feature req ? | 17:09 |
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| federico3 | since quite a while | 17:09 |
| Kiall | So - I think it's a rather large change to make it work with longer than 255 chars | 17:09 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:09 |
| timsim | Kiall: We don't use a varchar(255) col for it | 17:09 |
| Kiall | Technically, we support only single part TXT recrods, where each part is at most 255 charas | 17:09 |
| mugsie | as it will change who it is stored, and how we conncatinate it in mdns | 17:09 |
| Kiall | anything more needs to be split in the DNS wire format response... but.. where do we split? | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | i.e. TXT is defined as an array of strings, each up to 255 chars long. | 17:10 |
| Kiall | we don't have it modeled as an array | 17:10 |
| timsim | So we'd have to split it every 255 into multiple records? | 17:10 |
| timsim | oh i see | 17:11 |
| mugsie | I dont think we can target this to a particular relase anyway | 17:11 |
| mugsie | we can mark it as low ? | 17:11 |
| Kiall | Not multiple records, just in the TXT's rdata | 17:11 |
| mugsie | and if someone has cycles, propose a spec to show how we can fix it? | 17:11 |
| Kiall | i.e. foo.com. IN TXT "255 chars" "255 chars" "255 chars" | 17:11 |
| timsim | pglass what was the thing that made us run into this? | 17:11 |
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| pglass | uhh, it's not big enough for spf records or something | 17:12 |
| Kiall | <sidenote>Use SPF inclides</sidenote> | 17:12 |
| Kiall | includes* | 17:12 |
| Kiall | We *may* be able to hard split on 255, or split on word boundaries, or something.. but I've no clue how valid that is | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | Kiall: can you dump ^ into the bug? | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | and say we will want a spec for any fix | 17:13 |
| Kiall | <sidenode> SPF includes look like this.... _spf.google.com.295INTXT"v=spf1 include:_netblocks.google.com include:_netblocks2.google.com include:_netblocks3.google.com ~all"</sidenote> | 17:13 |
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| timsim | Yeah looks like some research needs to be done, if it's an important thing for us we can pick it up and spec it out. | 17:13 |
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| mugsie | cool. triaged, low | 17:13 |
| mugsie | imo | 17:13 |
| pglass | yeah, we didn't have concrete examples when someone brought this up in one of our meetings | 17:13 |
| timsim | Fair enough, works fo rme | 17:14 |
| Kiall | notes dumped | 17:14 |
| mugsie | ty | 17:14 |
| timsim | That's all :) | 17:14 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:14 |
| mugsie | #topic Stable Backport Triage | 17:14 |
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| mugsie | Kiall: | 17:14 |
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| Kiall | 424ebf3 Catch duplicate db inserts in powerdns plugin | 17:14 |
| Kiall | That's all. | 17:15 |
| Kiall | (and our backport finding command is busted! It didn't even find that.. derp) | 17:15 |
| mugsie | :/ | 17:15 |
| Kiall | Anyway, yea.. That should be backported IMO | 17:15 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:15 |
| mugsie | timsim: ? | 17:15 |
| mugsie | you vouleneer? | 17:15 |
| Kiall | It's going based off the "commit date" which is the date the commit was first made, and doesn't change when amended, or merged etc | 17:16 |
| timsim | Yeah fo sho. I thought I might have actioned myself to do that last week | 17:16 |
| Kiall | #action kiall to figure out a better BP finding command ;) | 17:16 |
| timsim | oh that was the http 204 thing | 17:16 |
| timsim | ok | 17:16 |
| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 17:17 |
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| mugsie | any off agenda topics? | 17:17 |
| mpbnka | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322936/2/specs/newton/naming-convention-for-records.rst | 17:17 |
| mugsie | I have oine | 17:17 |
| timsim | I have a couple | 17:17 |
| mpbnka | changed this according to suggestion | 17:17 |
| mugsie | OK - we still have the new "formatv4" option | 17:18 |
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| mpbnka | yes | 17:18 |
| mpbnka | but will give support for both format and formatv4 | 17:18 |
| Kiall | mpbnka: based entirely on memory (which is often wrong), we do support multiple formats, but don't split on v4 vs v6, right? | 17:18 |
| mugsie | we willneed to keep use the "format" or at least allow it to be used | 17:18 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:18 |
| mpbnka | yes | 17:18 |
| mugsie | OK, I am ok with ^ then | 17:19 |
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| Kiall | I don't see any issues, so long as format_v4/v6 being unset causes it to .. ehh .. fallback to "fallback" | 17:19 |
| Kiall | bah | 17:19 |
| mugsie | anyone have objections ? | 17:19 |
| Kiall | I don't see any issues, so long as format_v4/v6 being unset causes it to fallback to "format" | 17:19 |
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| mugsie | if not, can someone +A | 17:20 |
| mugsie | ? | 17:20 |
| mugsie | timsim: Kiall you have the power :P | 17:21 |
| Kiall | Yea, I'll re-read before tho :) Unless tim etc get to it | 17:21 |
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| mugsie | OK mpbnka - do you have any more questions for us? | 17:21 |
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| timsim | it appears that I don't | 17:21 |
| mpbnka | not for now :) | 17:21 |
| Kiall | lol - really? | 17:21 |
| mpbnka | thank you | 17:21 |
| timsim | oh jk im dumb | 17:21 |
| mugsie | timsim: well, i didnt want to say it .... | 17:21 |
| timsim | :P | 17:22 |
| Kiall | mpbnka: +A :) | 17:22 |
| mugsie | OK - https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1590937 | 17:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1590937 in Designate "Docs - Areas needing improvement" [High,Triaged] | 17:22 |
| Kiall | timsim: patchset 2? ;) | 17:22 |
| timsim | yep lol | 17:22 |
| mugsie | can we agree for poeple to take bits of this bug, and work on them? | 17:22 |
| Kiall | got me too ;) | 17:22 |
| Kiall | (hence re-reading ;)) | 17:22 |
| timsim | mugsie: Seems legit | 17:23 |
| Kiall | mugsie: was the plan to try do a docs-bash? | 17:23 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:23 |
| mugsie | but I am not sure we can .... find time | 17:23 |
| mugsie | but if people think we can I am 100% up for docs day | 17:23 |
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| Kiall | Yea, always the fun part ;) Docs day is harder than say, docs 3hrs (which will still kock out a pile) | 17:24 |
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| timsim | We have an intern, we can give him some | 17:24 |
| mugsie | wednesday 2 weeks suit people? 16:00 UTC - 20:00 UTC ? | 17:24 |
| mugsie | or is that too late Kiall / federico3 ? | 17:24 |
| mugsie | timsim: be nice :) | 17:24 |
| Kiall | mugsie: works | 17:25 |
| mugsie | we let you write the agent afair when you were the intern :P | 17:25 |
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| mugsie | timsim: that suit you? | 17:25 |
| mugsie | july 13th | 17:25 |
| mugsie | 16:00 UTC | 17:25 |
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| timsim | Yeah sure, we can do it earlier too | 17:26 |
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| mugsie | 14 / 15:00 ? | 17:26 |
| elarson | o/ | 17:26 |
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| elarson | sorry folks, had a family lunch go long | 17:27 |
| mugsie | sshshhh everyone stop talking about him | 17:27 |
| timsim | 14:30 :P | 17:27 |
| mugsie | done | 17:27 |
| mugsie | #info Doc Smash - 13th July 2016 @ 14:30 UTC | 17:27 |
| elarson | ah cool | 17:28 |
| mugsie | #action mugsie mail the ML with ^ | 17:28 |
| mugsie | timsim: you had "a few items" | 17:28 |
| timsim | Oh yeah | 17:28 |
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| timsim | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283784/ | 17:28 |
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| timsim | Worker Model | 17:28 |
| mugsie | Kiall: add me as an attendee | 17:28 |
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| timsim | Passes the gate | 17:28 |
| timsim | I had to change the pdns plugin a bit | 17:28 |
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| mugsie | is it on when it passes? | 17:29 |
| timsim | Yessir | 17:29 |
| timsim | But really, it's ready to review for realsies | 17:29 |
| mugsie | sweet | 17:29 |
| timsim | It's kind of at a point where if we're going to change anything big about it, it's getting late | 17:29 |
| mugsie | OK. what I want to do, is have grenade run on it | 17:30 |
| elarson | timsim: I don't have much experience with the sqlalchemy session + eventlet and its threadpool to know whether dropping the threadlocal is problem | 17:30 |
| mugsie | but if I can't get grenade written in time, I wil have to do manual | 17:30 |
| timsim | mugsie: I can try and do that if you'd like | 17:30 |
| elarson | ok, what is a grenade? | 17:31 |
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| mugsie | timsim: yeah - I can push a 1/2 finished one up | 17:31 |
| timsim | "Grenade is an OpenStack test harness to exercise the upgrade process between releases" | 17:31 |
| elarson | I mean, I know what a grenade is but it sounds like there is an openstack meaning I don't know about | 17:31 |
| elarson | ah ok | 17:31 |
| elarson | cool | 17:31 |
| timsim | mugsie: That'd be helpful | 17:31 |
| mugsie | elarson: it takes the last stable release, and then installs the new patch | 17:31 |
| elarson | !m opaque code names | 17:31 |
| openstack | elarson: Error: "m" is not a valid command. | 17:31 |
| mugsie | then restarts everything | 17:31 |
| Kiall | timsim: the pdns changes look fine at a glance, threadlocal was replaced with a local var in the methods + passing it around, so same deal in the end. | 17:32 |
| mugsie | eh | 17:32 |
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| mugsie | http://logs.openstack.org/84/283784/27/check/gate-designate-dsvm-powerdns/98d165c/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 17:32 |
| mugsie | is tempest running? | 17:32 |
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| Kiall | yea, console log shows a pass | 17:33 |
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| mugsie | oh | 17:33 |
| mugsie | ignore me | 17:33 |
| timsim | silly | 17:33 |
| mugsie | wrong friking job | 17:33 |
| mugsie | http://logs.openstack.org/84/283784/27/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-designate-powerdns/ce9cc52/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 17:33 |
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| timsim | Kiall: It creates a new session per pdns "operation" | 17:33 |
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| Kiall | timsim: I believe that results in the same behaviour as before, I believe? | 17:34 |
| timsim | Kiall: I thought so | 17:34 |
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| timsim | But I wasn't sure how you'd feel about it | 17:34 |
| timsim | It seems to work alright with these small tests | 17:35 |
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| Kiall | will double check the callers aren't expecting to make use of the methods in a nested transaction, which would be my only worry. | 17:35 |
| timsim | I've run performance tests for the worker+agent stuff with 8 nameservers on pretty high load with brilliant success, but I haven't done it like 100 times. | 17:36 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:36 |
| mugsie | can you dump out metrics from that? | 17:36 |
| timsim | Sure. | 17:37 |
| mugsie | OK - what is the next item ? :) | 17:37 |
| timsim | I'll post them in #openstack-dns or the commit msg later. | 17:37 |
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| mugsie | ++ | 17:37 |
| timsim | Mid cycle dates | 17:37 |
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| mugsie | mid aug me thinks | 17:38 |
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| timsim | If we can get those solid, we can start booking | 17:38 |
| Kiall | mugsie: mmmm... our end of July thing may be pushed 1-2 weeks | 17:38 |
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| timsim | Aug 15-19 would be nice for me personally :P | 17:39 |
| timsim | or 16-19 | 17:39 |
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| mugsie | timsim: I need to wait on managment | 17:39 |
| timsim | I think there's a Neutron thing going on in Cork around that time, not that it really matters | 17:39 |
| mugsie | there is | 17:39 |
| timsim | mugsie: Alright, well, sooner the better, cuz flights and stuff | 17:40 |
| mugsie | yeah | 17:40 |
| mugsie | I know | 17:40 |
| timsim | Also, Dublin/Galway? | 17:40 |
| mugsie | most likely Dublin | 17:40 |
| timsim | k | 17:40 |
| timsim | When do you think you can get us a date? | 17:40 |
| federico3 | good question | 17:40 |
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| Kiall | As soon as a certain mgr gets us dates | 17:40 |
| timsim | I'll have mejoe send him a fruit basket :P | 17:41 |
| Kiall | :D | 17:41 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:41 |
| timsim | Alright, cool. That's all I had. | 17:41 |
| * mugsie remembers this is a logged room, and says nothing :) | 17:42 | |
| mugsie | oh - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-designateclient+status:open | 17:42 |
| mugsie | top 3 there - can people review them? | 17:42 |
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| mugsie | anyone else have anything? | 17:43 |
| * timsim adds them to his list | 17:43 | |
| mugsie | 3 | 17:43 |
| mugsie | 2 | 17:43 |
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| mugsie | 1 | 17:43 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 17:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 17:43:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-06-29-17.01.html | 17:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-06-29-17.01.txt | 17:43 |
| Kiall | cyas :) | 17:43 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2016/designate.2016-06-29-17.01.log.html | 17:43 |
| federico3 | will take a look | 17:43 |
| federico3 | o/ | 17:43 |
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| timsim | o/ | 17:44 |
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| johnsom | #startmeeting Octavia | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 29 20:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'octavia' | 20:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Hi folks | 20:00 |
| sbalukoff | Howdy, folks! | 20:00 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:00 |
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| Guest51388 | Hi | 20:00 |
| TrevorV | o/ | 20:00 |
| Frito | o/ | 20:00 |
| eranra | Hi | 20:00 |
| perelman | hi | 20:00 |
| Frito | meeting start? | 20:00 |
| eezhova_ | hi | 20:00 |
| johnsom | Yes, I started the meeting | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #topic Announcements | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:01 | |
| johnsom | Octavia / Neutron-LBaaS mid-cycle | 20:01 |
| johnsom | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas-octavia-newton-midcycle | 20:01 |
| johnsom | Also, I have added lbaas-merge RFE bugs with the tag lbaas-merge in launchpad | 20:02 |
| nmagnezi | hello everyone | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Nice! | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bugs?field.tag=lbaas-merge | 20:02 |
| johnsom | So we can start tracking those. Please update/expand as needed | 20:02 |
| sbalukoff | Sounds good! | 20:02 |
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| johnsom | Last announcement I have, I am planning to put in our usual LBaaS/Octavia talk for the summit. | 20:03 |
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| fnaval | o/ | 20:03 |
| johnsom | I think we should cover merge topics (give awareness). | 20:03 |
| dougwig | oh yes. | 20:03 |
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| nmagnezi | o/ | 20:03 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: I would like to be involved in that talk, eh. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | If you have any other topics you would like to have some time during the talk, please send me topic ideas | 20:04 |
| sbalukoff | Assuming you can stomach sharing a stage with me again. ;) | 20:04 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: heh, and next you're going to state that the world is round. | 20:04 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Are you guys going to be in a place to do a A/A demo? | 20:04 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: No idea at this point. :/ | 20:04 |
| dougwig | going back to the midcycle announcement, please update that etherpad if you're going; there are a lot of tentatives still on the list. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | Ok. Well, please send me an e-mail or IRC with your topics so I can get a list of participants/topics for the talk | 20:05 |
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| sbalukoff | Ok! | 20:05 |
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| johnsom | Any other announcements today? | 20:05 |
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| johnsom | #topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Brief progress reports / bugs needing review (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:06 | |
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| johnsom | I have been working on cleaning up our bugs list and getting the merge tasks in so we can track them. | 20:06 |
| johnsom | I should be back in the coding game this week, so that is going to be nice. | 20:07 |
| fnaval | i too have been working on bugs | 20:07 |
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| Frito | sry, back, disconnected :-( | 20:07 |
| TrevorV | Been mostly focused on internal reviews. Will go in and update for my health monitor change in neutron lbaas shortly so we can get that merged soon | 20:07 |
| fnaval | verifying and closing out where necesseary | 20:07 |
| sbalukoff | Oh-- apparently there's a new IBM team out of China who are going to be working on LBaaS / Octavia. I couldn't tell from the e-mail I got whether they intend to do a lot of upstream work. Obviously, I'm pushing hard for that to be the case. | 20:07 |
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| fnaval | reviews needed on these - should be quick | 20:08 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309635/ | 20:08 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308091/ | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | I'm also seeing a light at the end of the tunnel regarding the internal work I'm doing. In a week or two I expect to have more time to work on upstream again. | 20:08 |
| eezhova_ | The functional job for lbaas is ready and passing, please review | 20:08 |
| eezhova_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/320999 | 20:08 |
| sbalukoff | Though next week I will be out, as I'm taking some vacation after the 4th. | 20:08 |
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| johnsom | cool, thanks eezhova_! | 20:08 |
| nmagnezi | reviews also needed on those two: | 20:08 |
| nmagnezi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299998/ | 20:08 |
| fnaval | also if anyone has any spare cycles and would like to take over the TempestPlugin for Neutron LbaaS | 20:08 |
| fnaval | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321087/ | 20:09 |
| johnsom | And fnaval | 20:09 |
| nmagnezi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327966/ | 20:09 |
| eezhova_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329507/ | 20:09 |
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| eezhova_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332913/ | 20:09 |
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| eezhova_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/334374/ | 20:09 |
| sbalukoff | Sweet. | 20:09 |
| johnsom | Nice. I like the activity. | 20:10 |
| eezhova_ | these three are quite ready to merge :) | 20:10 |
| johnsom | We also have someone updating our DIB elements, so good stuff there too | 20:10 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, that's great! | 20:10 |
| johnsom | Ok, on to our other topics today | 20:11 |
| johnsom | #topic Amphora-agent supporting multiple Linux flavors (nmagnezi) | 20:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Amphora-agent supporting multiple Linux flavors (nmagnezi) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:11 | |
| johnsom | nmagnezi you have the floor | 20:11 |
| nmagnezi | hi guys | 20:11 |
| johnsom | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098464.html | 20:11 |
| nmagnezi | yup. so the issue is summed up in this mail | 20:12 |
| nmagnezi | i basically have two possible solutions for this | 20:12 |
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| dougwig | i'm fine with the idea as long as someone on the team is willing to maintain it. adding work for another company, in a vacuum, makes no sense to me. | 20:12 |
| nmagnezi | dougwig, by "adding work" what do you mean exactly | 20:13 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:13 |
| nmagnezi | dougwig, i intend to work on the patch. can you please tell me what more is needed? | 20:13 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I agree with dougwig, someone has to do the work and maintain it. That said, I think there is value in doing a systemd spin as it seems to be the path forward for a number of these distros | 20:13 |
| dougwig | nmagnezi: your proposal adds code, potential bugs, maintenance, doubles test matrix, etc. it's not free after the code is submitted. | 20:13 |
| dougwig | nmagnezi: i understand redhat doesn't want to ship an ubuntu image. makes sense. but it's not free, and we have to realize and account for that. | 20:14 |
| nmagnezi | dougwig, agreed. and as johnsom said supporting systemd is valuable for more than just "vendor x" :) | 20:14 |
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| blogan | its teh future! | 20:14 |
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| nmagnezi | dougwig, yup. i understand | 20:15 |
| dougwig | i think xenial is systemd, so we're stuck with that steaming pile of overreach, regardless of distro. | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | nmagnezi: Right. well, the idea here is that "vendor X" should probably be maintaining it. ;) | 20:15 |
| nmagnezi | sbalukoff, :) | 20:15 |
| blogan | dougwig: just wait until the next "better" one comes around | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Haha! | 20:15 |
| johnsom | dougwig Tell us how you really feel about systemd | 20:15 |
| nmagnezi | but wait | 20:15 |
| nmagnezi | what do you guys think about the "do it like lbaas and l3 agent" approach? | 20:15 |
| sbalukoff | It sounds like that ought to simplify start-up woes. | 20:16 |
| sbalukoff | And make for less distro-dependent code. But I could be wrong, I suppose. | 20:16 |
| johnsom | Well, I think we have value in the way upstart is setup today (not just because I had a part in that), where the processes can start and restart themselves in dependent | 20:16 |
| dougwig | however it may make time to the vip passing traffic slower, as it'd go from native NIC and haproxy to needing the agent to start, and then settle, and then plug. | 20:17 |
| sbalukoff | Yep, it's a lot more work to build these components into a daemon that upstart is already doing for us. | 20:17 |
| johnsom | If we went down the agent path, we would need to implement process monitoring for the other parts (haproxy, keepalived, etc.) which upstart provides us today | 20:17 |
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| sbalukoff | Yep. | 20:18 |
| dougwig | can we just have systemd be the load balancer, and respond to our REST requests? | 20:18 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, like in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327966/ ?;) | 20:18 |
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| nmagnezi | dougwig, lol | 20:18 |
| johnsom | dougwig, sure, anything is possible (as he shakes his head towards dougwig) | 20:19 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, imo the agent path will eventually be more future proof | 20:19 |
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| dougwig | i'm just keeping with the design principles of systemd, y'all. don't shoot the messenger. | 20:19 |
| sbalukoff | Hahaha | 20:19 |
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| nmagnezi | johnsom, plus it has already proven to work well for two other agents | 20:19 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi True. It also makes sequencing very clear. | 20:19 |
| dougwig | nmagnezi: i'd like to see the boot time different between ifup/haproxy versus agent+same. | 20:20 |
| dougwig | /different/difference/ | 20:20 |
| nmagnezi | dougwig, that's fair. | 20:20 |
| dougwig | ideally we'd have a container amphora that was responding to traffic in 2-3 seconds; add an agent on top is significant in that kind of scenario. | 20:20 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | That's the future I want to see. | 20:21 |
| nmagnezi | will the containers use the same python agent? | 20:21 |
| johnsom | I agree, but we aren't dealing with the service VM amp at that point either | 20:21 |
| sbalukoff | nmagnezi: Probably initially. | 20:22 |
| sbalukoff | nmagnezi: Though, of course, especially interface manipulations don't always translate 1:1 between VMs and containers. | 20:22 |
| dougwig | johnsom: like we won't just copy the framework over? c'mon, devs are lazy. i mean, efficient. | 20:22 |
| rm_work | dougwig: i think emacs already has a systemd plugin to do that | 20:22 |
| johnsom | Haha | 20:22 |
| nmagnezi | hah | 20:23 |
| sbalukoff | rm_work: HAHA! | 20:23 |
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| sbalukoff | emacs has everything you could possibly want except a good text editor. | 20:23 |
| johnsom | Oh, emacs, you had to go there | 20:23 |
| rm_work | yep, HAD to. | 20:23 |
| rm_work | anyway, I like systemd better than upstart personally >_> | 20:23 |
| dougwig | you might need three foot pedals and a head-banging stick to do all the combos quickly, but at least the arrow keys work without switching modes. | 20:23 |
| rm_work | so i may be not one to talk | 20:23 |
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| johnsom | Ok, so I would propose going down the systemd path and not folding this all into the agent. | 20:23 |
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| dougwig | +1 from me, personally. | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | okay so I just wanted to know that if I attempt to implement "the agent path" it will be something you will be willing to eventually merge | 20:24 |
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| sbalukoff | Makes sense, especially since it's viable in xenial, too. | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | aye. glad to hear that | 20:24 |
| rm_work | as proven by me submitting systemd fixes and having my CR blocked because i refuse to touch upstart >_> | 20:24 |
| nmagnezi | btw that means changes to the way things are done with Ubuntu as well | 20:24 |
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| nmagnezi | aside from how the agent itself is started on boot | 20:24 |
| dougwig | nmagnezi: i think you're reading johnsom's suggestion and the +1's backwards. :) | 20:25 |
| sbalukoff | Eh... We'll probably want to move the 'default' amphora image beyond trusty at some point soon anyway. | 20:25 |
| johnsom | nmagnezi Yes, that is fine as long as it works and meets the functionality | 20:25 |
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| nmagnezi | dougwig, i stand corrected. | 20:26 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Yes. I am slightly worried that DIB might do that TO us at some point. Versioning isn't clear in the elements IMHO | 20:26 |
| sbalukoff | Yep. | 20:26 |
| nmagnezi | johnsom, dougwig, to conclude you guys are against the agent path and want me to replicate the use of sysvinit with systemd? | 20:27 |
| sbalukoff | That, and I don't want to have to back-port trusty fixes for the next three years. | 20:27 |
| dougwig | based on how long it'll take infra to switch over, i expect we have until sometime in the fall. | 20:27 |
| johnsom | Ok, I think we are aligning around the systemd approach. nmagnezi does that cover your topic? | 20:27 |
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| nmagnezi | johnsom, yes. | 20:27 |
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| johnsom | Excellent. thank you for the topic! | 20:28 |
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| johnsom | #topic Should amphorae be rebootable? | 20:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Should amphorae be rebootable? (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:28 | |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1517290 | 20:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1517290 in octavia "Not able to ssh to amphora or curl the vip after rebooting" [High,Opinion] | 20:28 |
| johnsom | I did not get a chance to test this to confirm if it is still an issue. Anyone else? | 20:28 |
| johnsom | Otherwise, you can slap my wrist and I will try again this coming week. | 20:29 |
| dougwig | i still think the answer should be yes, but i believe this horse was beaten into glue. | 20:29 |
| sbalukoff | I was almost entirely on internal stuff this last week. Didn't have time to review. | 20:29 |
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| blogan | how far down the making the cattle into pets logic do we go? | 20:30 |
| johnsom | I kind of a agree, rebootable is a good thing. I want to test if this ssh issue still exists or not. I think not, so we could kick that can | 20:30 |
| blogan | i like pet cows | 20:30 |
| blogan | they're delicious | 20:30 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:30 |
| johnsom | Haha | 20:30 |
| johnsom | #topic Load balancer upgrades (ihrachys) | 20:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Load balancer upgrades (ihrachys) (Meeting topic: Octavia)" | 20:30 | |
| dougwig | my cat is 20. i can clearly never let go. | 20:31 |
| johnsom | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098471.html | 20:31 |
| blogan | dougwig: how many times have you rebooted your cat? | 20:31 |
| TrevorV | 5 | 20:31 |
| johnsom | I know he can't make it to the meeting, but he said he will read the notes. | 20:31 |
| TrevorV | I heard him talk about it | 20:31 |
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| rm_work | yeah cattle may not be pets, but you still immunize them and put them inside during storms and such, right? >_> | 20:31 |
| rm_work | because it'd be bad if your herd all froze and died | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | Oh, that's a long e-mail! | 20:32 |
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| johnsom | I think the one issue that comes to mind for me is the sticky table sync would be lost | 20:32 |
| rm_work | to extend the metaphor a bit <_< | 20:32 |
| dougwig | ihar's suggestion was to use fip's as a zero-downtime upgrade mechanism. it'd work, except for the many deployments that don't have fip's. | 20:32 |
| blogan | i got through half of ihar's email and then got pulled away | 20:32 |
| johnsom | I still wonder about outage time with the FIP update as well | 20:32 |
| rm_work | oh lol i'm on like a 2 minute delay because i'm scrolled up slightly >_< | 20:32 |
| blogan | oh but fips are defocre required soon! | 20:32 |
| sbalukoff | defacto? | 20:33 |
| dougwig | my cloud doesn't use fip's. it's uses provider nets. i don't mind an optional mechanism on top of FIPs, but i'd hate to see something requiring them (and thus requiring NAT as well.) | 20:33 |
| dougwig | i think he meant defcore. | 20:33 |
| sbalukoff | I hate FIPs. They're not IPv6 friendly. :/ | 20:33 |
| blogan | dougwig: your cloud won't be an openstack cloud then, sorry you lose | 20:33 |
| dougwig | not defcore optional? wow, suck. | 20:33 |
| johnsom | I am not a fan of FIPs either | 20:33 |
| blogan | it'll be a year until that becomes required | 20:33 |
| dougwig | neutron's deployment advice is heading away from fip's. and now we're requiring them? when provider nets don't support them? what a mess. | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | blogan: So a year to fight and delay that for another year... | 20:34 |
| blogan | its apparently the only way defcore sees clouds should give out external IPs | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, that's stupid. | 20:34 |
| dougwig | FIPs should be available and used exceptionally, not the normal case. IMO. | 20:34 |
| sbalukoff | Because, again, can we please join the 2000's and *think* about IPv6 already? | 20:34 |
| blogan | well i've successfully gotten us off topic, back to ihar's suggestion | 20:34 |
| dougwig | sadly, whether we rely on FIPs goes to the heart of the suggestion. | 20:35 |
| blogan | yeah true | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | I need to read through that e-mail. | 20:35 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff IPv6 is broken in octavia btw. | 20:35 |
| dougwig | as i was reading it, i was wondering if a port/vif swap couldn't achieve something similar? | 20:35 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: Quiet, you! | 20:35 |
| blogan | sounds like a pluggable approach | 20:35 |
| johnsom | It should be an easy fix | 20:36 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: Hopefully there's a bug open about this? | 20:36 |
| blogan | dougwig: i was thinking of the same thing, kind of what we do on failover | 20:36 |
| TrevorV | I don't think fips as the normal case is the right way either. After mostly-skimming the email | 20:36 |
| blogan | which is kind of what he was saying wouldnt' work | 20:36 |
| johnsom | Ok, so let's take some time to read through and reply to the e-mail. | 20:36 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: I'd prefer the port/vif swap if that's viable. | 20:36 |
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| sbalukoff | Ok.... so create an action item? | 20:36 |
| johnsom | Sure | 20:36 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: tahts what failover does currently | 20:37 |
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| sbalukoff | Everyone go to the mailing list and bitch about how FIPs suck. Also, feedback on Ihar's suggestion. | 20:37 |
| blogan | but yeah i guess everyone should read the email | 20:37 |
| johnsom | #action everyone read over Ihar's e-mail about amp upgrades and reply to the e-mail | 20:37 |
| johnsom | #topic Open Discussion | 20:37 |
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| dougwig | let's get systemd to assign the FIPs, and make an audio representation with pulseaudio. then we can all die in a vat of mediocrity. | 20:37 |
| evgenyf | Hi guys, I have a patch that somehow breaks Octavia driver here #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326018, could you please have a look? | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Haha | 20:38 |
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| evgenyf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326018 | 20:38 |
| sbalukoff | evgenyf: I'll try to get to that this week. | 20:38 |
| dougwig | evgenyf: should we be amused that your own CI failed on it? | 20:38 |
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| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:38 |
| evgenyf | sbalukoff: thanks | 20:39 |
| sbalukoff | Anything more on Ihar's suggestion? | 20:39 |
| evgenyf | dougwig: our CI is broken , had no chance to fix it, hope to do it soon | 20:39 |
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| sbalukoff | Oh wait, sorry, didn't see the topic change. | 20:40 |
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| sbalukoff | Er... anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss at this time? | 20:40 |
| johnsom | Yep, open discussion time | 20:40 |
| nmagnezi | haproxy (with lbaas agent) related patches up for review: | 20:41 |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Any update on the docs work? | 20:41 |
| nmagnezi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327966/ | 20:41 |
| nmagnezi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299998/ | 20:41 |
| johnsom | I think we only saw one patch so far | 20:41 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: No progress in the last couple weeks. Been on internal stuff (and so has the docs team) | 20:41 |
| evgenyf | Yes, some patch for neutron flavors plugin | 20:41 |
| blogan | oh btw i stand corrected about defcore requiring fips, it got pulled out | 20:41 |
| evgenyf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318153 | 20:41 |
| blogan | got everyone all riled up for nothing | 20:41 |
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| rm_work | that's half the fun | 20:42 |
| johnsom | blogan that figures.... | 20:42 |
| blogan | routers are still in though | 20:42 |
| sbalukoff | johnsom: well, the good news is I'm getting a lot of experience on deploying Octavia in a non-devstack environment, meaning that doc at least ought to be fairly fleshed out. :) | 20:42 |
| * blogan hides in his hobbit hole | 20:42 | |
| johnsom | sbalukoff Awesome! | 20:42 |
| TrevorV | blogan you know damn well you're too big for one of those | 20:42 |
| dougwig | blogan: did systemd get ripped out in favor of init, too? if so, i'll end today happy. | 20:42 |
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| sbalukoff | johnsom: But yes, once this internal stuff is done, I intend to spend some time on that, and then having docs people fix my broken English. | 20:43 |
| blogan | dougwig: in some distros they never went to systemd, so you can be happy | 20:43 |
| johnsom | Hahaha. I will help too | 20:43 |
| sbalukoff | And also herding that new IBM China team into doing a lot of upstream work, if I can. :) | 20:43 |
| blogan | TrevorV: my species is Hobbitus Gigantis | 20:43 |
| dougwig | at some point there will be a big pile of work in taking the neutron-lbaas tests and running them against the octavia api. unless we've already duped them all. | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | We haven't. | 20:44 |
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| johnsom | Right | 20:44 |
| dougwig | if you're looking for a big chunk of upstream that needs loooking at, sbalukoff | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Right! | 20:44 |
| blogan | dougwig: if we had the passthrough or proxy thing working then we'll buy some time on that | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | I'm fairly certain we'll need the passthrough proxy in any case. | 20:44 |
| sbalukoff | Because LBaaSv2 and Octavia don't *exactly* line up. | 20:45 |
| dougwig | blogan: you mean make octavia jobs that just use the neutron shim? yes, but then we'd have pretty limited coverage on the far half of the "just switch endpoints" message. | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | Though they are damned close. | 20:45 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: no, but one of the efforts is to get tehir APIs to line up | 20:45 |
| sbalukoff | Yep, I know. | 20:45 |
| dougwig | it'd be funny if we made the neutron api shim be haproxy... in an amp! | 20:46 |
| sbalukoff | HAHA | 20:46 |
| johnsom | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1596639 | 20:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1596639 in octavia "Align Octavia API to Neutron-LBaaS APIs" [High,New] | 20:46 |
| blogan | dougwig: true, in that case, it'd just be a matter of switching the tests to use a different service in teh catalog | 20:46 |
| nmagnezi | i have a question about octavia gates. how will a patch that changes the amphora agent get tested? isn't the amphora image deployed with octavia deployed from pypi? (meaning master code) | 20:46 |
| blogan | once octavia accepts true nlbaas calls | 20:46 |
| dougwig | nmagnezi: no, devstack installs it from zuul, so via your git change. and the image is built on the fly. | 20:47 |
| rm_work | nmagnezi: no, we build it -- though there is a bug i think still where it builds from master and not the patchset specified? | 20:47 |
| rm_work | ^^ did we fix the "from master" issue? | 20:47 |
| rm_work | i was looking into it at some point and had some code that did that... | 20:47 |
| johnsom | rm_work I was just trying to remember if we got that fixed or not | 20:47 |
| dougwig | rm_work: really? why aren't we using the octavia that's already *on disk* ? | 20:47 |
| rm_work | dougwig: because we just aren't | 20:48 |
| rm_work | sec | 20:48 |
| rm_work | let me find my fix | 20:48 |
| blogan | there's a file in tree that determines what version of the octavia code the amp image should have | 20:48 |
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| blogan | and since its in tree, its always pulling master | 20:48 |
| rm_work | is there? | 20:48 |
| rm_work | ah yes | 20:48 |
| rm_work | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317756/2/elements/amphora-agent-ubuntu/extra-data.d/50-copy_local_source_files | 20:48 |
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| rm_work | so | 20:48 |
| rm_work | this "works" | 20:49 |
| rm_work | but it was part of another effort that i abandoned | 20:49 |
| rm_work | we could pull it out | 20:49 |
| blogan | https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/elements/amphora-agent/source-repository-amphora-agent | 20:49 |
| johnsom | There is a DIB override that should be used | 20:49 |
| rm_work | yeah see this CR and ignore like half of it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317756/2 | 20:49 |
| dougwig | blogan, that git url breaks infra's CI rules, btw. | 20:49 |
| blogan | dougwig: well thats good to know, a year later! | 20:50 |
| sbalukoff | Heh! | 20:50 |
| johnsom | Someone just put a patch for that | 20:50 |
| rm_work | but short answer is -- i fixed it, but then dropped that effort instead of getting it merged :/ | 20:50 |
| blogan | rm_work: dropped it bc it wasn't working out well? or time? | 20:51 |
| rm_work | it was just a tiny piece of the amp-minifying effort | 20:51 |
| rm_work | and i got retasked | 20:51 |
| rm_work | THAT small part worked fine | 20:51 |
| nmagnezi | dougwig, rm_work, thanks for the answer guys. yet i must admit that I didn't get how exactly the patch that should be tested ends up in the amphora disk | 20:51 |
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| rm_work | i can pull it out and resubmit | 20:51 |
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| rm_work | nmagnezi: yeah so what ends up happening is the amp agent changes get tested the next time AFTER your patch merges ;p | 20:52 |
| rm_work | so, basically hilarity ensues | 20:52 |
| blogan | nmagnezi: it doesn't, rm_work was dong a patch that would fix that issue | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | Sure. Probably worthwhile looking at the patch johnsom was just talking about, too. | 20:52 |
| nmagnezi | oh, so this is why i didn't get it :D | 20:52 |
| sbalukoff | Yeah, that's... less than ideal. | 20:53 |
| bana_k | I don't understand much with the DIB, this might be of some help https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331392/ | 20:53 |
| blogan | nmagnezi: i think what some have done is update that file i linked above to their git revew and push up a test change to see veryting works fine, and then change it back and push up their review. an awful workflow | 20:53 |
| nmagnezi | blogan, wow.. | 20:53 |
| johnsom | Yeah. I can take this as an action too | 20:53 |
| rm_work | i'll see if i can get this done ASAP | 20:54 |
| rm_work | probably tomorrow, as i have internal fires today | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | Well, in our defense, there aren't that many projects that use VM images like this. :/ | 20:54 |
| sbalukoff | As part of the service delivery, I mean. | 20:54 |
| rm_work | since i already have working code for it | 20:54 |
| rm_work | unless someone else wants to take it over | 20:54 |
| blogan | the ssh driver never had this problem :) | 20:54 |
| rm_work | but, examples are all there :P | 20:54 |
| rm_work | blogan: +2 | 20:54 |
| dougwig | blogan: +3 | 20:54 |
| * blogan watches the sshexit | 20:54 | |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:54 |
| * rm_work votes Yes for Sshexit | 20:55 | |
| rm_work | wait, or is it the other way around | 20:55 |
| rm_work | I don't even | 20:55 |
| johnsom | blogan -5 | 20:55 |
| rm_work | I don't understand what Sshexit is, but it has a catchy name so i'll vote for it anyway | 20:55 |
| Frito | frito +100? | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | What else can we do to sabotage our own project? | 20:56 |
| sbalukoff | HAHA | 20:56 |
| johnsom | Ok, rm_work are you going to take this issue? | 20:56 |
| dougwig | if i vote for sshexit, do we fork the project and dump all REST? | 20:56 |
| rm_work | johnsom: yeah i'll try to tackle that today | 20:56 |
| rm_work | or tomorrow | 20:56 |
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| rm_work | maybe today | 20:56 |
| blogan | the project is pluggable, why fork | 20:56 |
| johnsom | Ok | 20:56 |
| dougwig | amusingly i've been doing a lot of flask lately, and like it much more than pecan. | 20:56 |
| rm_work | dougwig: yes flask is much better | 20:56 |
| rm_work | but alas | 20:56 |
| johnsom | Any other topics before dougwig proposes a move to ruby AGAIN? | 20:56 |
| blogan | dougwig: try falcon | 20:57 |
| rm_work | note we did the agent in Flask :P | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Why have an API anyway, let's just spawn some kind of load balancer from a neutron agent. | 20:57 |
| dougwig | blogan: why fork? because i don't trust this core team, of course. they're shifty. | 20:57 |
| rm_work | dougwig: ^^ | 20:57 |
| rm_work | yeah I don't trust those cores either. not one bit. | 20:57 |
| dougwig | sbalukoff: let's just build the lb into DVR ports. | 20:57 |
| sbalukoff | dougwig: Exactly! I mean, it's a network function anyway, right? | 20:57 |
| rm_work | (welcome to Octavia Open Discussion) | 20:57 |
| blogan | have we digressed enough? | 20:57 |
| johnsom | The thing I don't like about flask is the funky port stuff they do. If it restarts it abandons the TCP port in a bad way | 20:57 |
| dougwig | blogan: can we vote on that? | 20:57 |
| rm_work | johnsom: that's just if you're using their builtin server | 20:58 |
| rm_work | johnsom: i run flask through gunicorn, it's just uswgi | 20:58 |
| rm_work | *uwsgi | 20:58 |
| blogan | ugwsi | 20:58 |
| dougwig | so... you're saying then... it's all.... unicorns? | 20:58 |
| rm_work | uwigw | 20:58 |
| johnsom | Ah, good, it's a mess with what we have now | 20:58 |
| sbalukoff | ...and rainbows. | 20:58 |
| rm_work | johnsom: yeah werkzeug is shit | 20:58 |
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| johnsom | Ok, two minutes | 20:58 |
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| dougwig | (gunicorn is a cheap knockoff of the ruby version. i'll just leave that out there.) | 20:58 |
| johnsom | Ah, right it's werk | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | Haha | 20:59 |
| * blogan rolls eyes | 20:59 | |
| johnsom | Ok. thanks folks! | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | Ok, y'all! Thanks for the meeting, eh! | 20:59 |
| rm_work | johnsom: actually that'd be a fix.... | 20:59 |
| rm_work | johnsom: run gunicorn inside the amp lol | 20:59 |
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| blogan | we're at time | 20:59 |
| blogan | thankfully | 20:59 |
| sbalukoff | HAHA | 20:59 |
| Frito | lol | 20:59 |
| rm_work | o/ | 20:59 |
| dougwig | ruby fork ftw! | 20:59 |
| johnsom | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 29 20:59:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-06-29-20.00.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-06-29-20.00.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/octavia/2016/octavia.2016-06-29-20.00.log.html | 20:59 |
| fnaval | thanks | 20:59 |
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