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edleafe#startmeeting nova_scheduler14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 28 14:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is edleafe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova_scheduler)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler'14:00
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edleafeAh, good. I thought I'd be talking with myself today :)14:00
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edleafe#topic specs14:01
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edleafeFirst up is Jay's resource pools: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253187/14:01
edleafemriedem: is there consensus that this can proceed before the summit?14:02
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jaypipesIf we disregard the Neutron-specific comments, is everyone happy with the spec as-is? mlavalle and others have good Neutron-specific comments regarding routed networks, but IMHO, it's not necessary to resolve each and every one of those before approving the spec for generic resource pools.14:03
mriedemis dansmith awake?14:03
dansmithyes14:03
edleafejaypipes: agreed14:03
mriedemwas https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/generic-resource-pools somethign that was partially implemented in mitaka?14:03
mriedembut we just didn't land the spec?14:03
edleafejaypipes: it's good to surface those issues. They don't have to be resolved now, though14:03
mlavallejaypipes: I agree... The spec looks good. My comments only add precision from the Neutron poinbt of view14:03
jaypipesmlavalle: right, they are excellent points, just not things that would kill the entire idea of generic resource pools.14:04
jaypipesmriedem: no, it was proposed and the spec went through a ton of reviews and revisions, but was not approved.14:04
mlavallejaypipes: in fact, from the Neutron point of view, we think this spec is good now and want it to move forward14:05
mriedemjaypipes: and no code in mitaka?14:05
edleafemriedem: generic resouce pools is still 'Pending Approval' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=generic-resource-pools14:05
jaypipesmriedem: there was code proposed, yes.14:05
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jaypipesmriedem: but much of that went into the compute-node-inventory spec.14:05
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mriedemi thought last week that parts of compute-node-inventory was what dansmith was saying was mostly done in mitaka and we could give a pass to in newton even though the spec wasn't approved14:06
jaypipesmriedem: the work that cdent and dansmith did around the compute node object was primarily against the compute-node-inventory spec, which is a dependency for generic-resource-pools.14:06
jaypipesmriedem: yes, that is absolutely correct.14:06
mriedemok, so if generic-resource-pools wasn't nearly complete in mitaka, then i think it has to wait for after the summit14:06
jaypipesmriedem: here is the compute-node-inventory spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260048/14:06
mriedemand we focus on getting compute-node-inventory done14:07
dansmithmriedem: inventory wasn't mostly done, but we were aiming for it to be done, we just ran out of time14:07
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mriedemyeah, that's what i remember hearing, so i think inventory gets (re-)approved in newton14:07
mriedemlike, this week14:07
jaypipesmriedem: I'd be happy to just get the compute-node-inventory spec approved before th esummit.14:07
mriedemdansmith: you agree with that?14:08
edleafedansmith: so how does that impact the Allocation and AllocationList objects: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282442 ?14:08
dansmithmriedem: it's what I was saying we should be fast-tracking, yes14:08
mriedemdansmith: ok, cool14:08
dansmithedleafe: I believe the allocation bits are outside that scope, although definitely related14:08
dansmithedleafe: up to mriedem if he wants to consider them in or out, but we can make progress on the inventory bits before those, as we were only going to land inventory (not allocation) in mitaka14:09
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mriedemedleafe: that patch was already ok to get into newton14:09
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edleafemriedem: ok thanks14:09
mriedemedleafe: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282442 is the last remaining thing for resource-providers14:09
mriedemfrom what i'm told14:09
mriedemwould be good to get the subteam to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28244214:10
edleafeI was confused by the topic on that being resource pools14:10
mriedemedleafe: yeah, the topics and ordering are confusing14:10
edleafe#action Scheduler subteam to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28244214:10
mriedemi'll add https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282442 to the priorities etherpad along with the inventory spec14:10
edleafe#agreed compute-node-inventory spec to proceed;generic-resource -pools to wait until post-summit14:11
edleafe^^ Does that sound right?14:11
jaypipessure14:11
edleafeok, then - moving on...14:12
jaypipeshold up.14:12
edleafe#topic Reviews14:12
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Yingxinsorry14:12
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edleafeAre there any specific reviews (other than 282442) to discuss?14:12
Yingxinthe bp for scheduler functional test is ready, told it is a specless one.14:12
jaypipesI'd like to please know what, if anything, needs to be changed on the compute-node-inventory spec in order for it to be approved.14:12
Yingxinhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/scheduler-functional-test14:12
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edleafe#undo14:13
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edleafelet's stick to specs now14:13
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mriedemfor the inventory spec, i'd like to see dansmith and johnthetubaguy ok with that since they have been more involved in this than i have, i can go through it though14:14
mriedembut i'll likely be in the dark on some of the implied stuff given dependencies14:14
edleafejaypipes: link for that spec?14:14
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/260048/14:14
edleafethx14:14
edleafe#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260048/14:15
mriedem#help need review on compute node inventory spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260048/ - what else needs to be done?14:15
edleafeYingxin: you had some issues with that spec?14:16
Yingxinedleafe: which spec?14:16
mriedemYingxin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260048/14:16
edleafewhat he said ^14:16
YingxinI have some comments made before.14:17
YingxinI need to review that again, nearly forget14:17
edleafeYingxin: ok, if you could do that soon, it would help14:18
mlavalleedleafe: before we leave the specs topic, I want to propose to track this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253187 in this meeting. It is closely related to the scheduler and resource pools14:18
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edleafemlavalle: uh, that was the first spec we discussed14:18
mriedemmlavalle: the spec can continue to be worked, but it won't be approved before the summit14:19
jaypipesI think mlavalle meant the routed networks spec :)14:19
mlavalleedleafe: sorry, wrong url: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/14:19
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edleafemlavalle: :)14:19
jaypipesmlavalle: yeah, I'll re-review that one later today on the plane flight.14:19
mlavalleI just want to mention today that carl_baldwin added some clarity on the 3 use cases to be served14:20
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Yingxinedleafe: jaypipes: yes, I found some issues there, but no one replies till now14:20
mlavalleand that I added a proposal on how to handle the use case where the user creates the port in Neutron with an ip address14:20
edleafe#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263898/14:20
mriedemmlavalle: the routed networks spec won't be approved before the summit, but it would be good to come prepared to the summit with anything that needs to be discussed about that one, i'm assuming we'll have a nova/neutron cross-project session14:21
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mlavallemriedem: that's ok, I just want to gather as much feedback as possible before Summit14:21
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mlavallemriedem: and yes, let's add it to the Neutron-Nova agenda during summit14:22
edleafeYingxin: you wanted to discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/scheduler-functional-test ?14:22
Yingxinedleafe: yes14:22
YingxinI also have a prototype there: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281825/14:23
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YingxinI was told that this bp doesn't need a spec.14:23
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edleafeYingxin: I wouldn't think so, but in any case it won't get approved before the summit14:24
mriedemwell,14:24
edleafemriedem: ?14:25
mriedemwe never really talked about specless bp's, especially ones for testing, this is arguably not needing a blueprint at all14:25
mriedemsince it's just testing14:25
mriedembut i'd want to know if the scheduler sub-team thinks this is valuable to get in to help with testing the other things that are approved to get in right now, like resource providers and compute node inventory14:26
edleafemriedem: ok, but it *is* new work that wasn't targeted for Mitaka14:26
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mriedemya, but it's testing14:26
mriedemanyway, if you guys think it's valuable and helps with the other stuff that is approved, then we should consider it14:27
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jaypipesmriedem: I'll review it today.14:27
edleafemriedem: ok, wasn't sure where the line was drawn for new stuff14:27
edleafe#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281825/14:28
edleafeAny more spec discussion?14:28
Yingxinmany features need schduler functional tests14:28
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edleafe#topic Reviews14:29
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edleafeAre there any reviews that we haven't yet discussed that need attention?14:29
jaypipes    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286931 compute_node_statistics() rework with new DB schema14:30
edleafejaypipes: brings back memories...14:31
edleafeat least postgres is happy with it now14:32
edleafeAny other reviews?14:32
Yingxinhmm, maybe remove -2 for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292362/ ?14:32
YingxinI think I should ping sbauza, he's not here today14:32
mriedemYingxin: yeah just ping bauwser when he's available to remove the -2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292362/14:33
mriedemeurope is still on holiday today14:33
Yingxinmriedem: thanks14:33
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edleafeAny other reviews?14:34
mriedemYingxin: question on that change,14:34
Yingxinmriedem: yes?14:34
mriedemare you saying quotas are the last thing in the scheduler that have direct db access?14:34
Yingxinmriedem: yes, I've run the scheduler on the different host14:35
Yingxinmriedem: only quota will raise exception14:35
mriedemthen you should also add a change that blocks db access for the scheduler service, like we do for nova-network here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/cmd/network.py#L42-L5314:35
Yingxinmriedem: ok, will add that, thx14:36
edleafeAny other reviews?14:37
edleafe#topic Opens14:37
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edleafeAustin Design Summit ideas14:38
edleafehttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-summit-ideas14:38
edleafeThe scheduler part starts around line 13514:38
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edleafeJust some rough ideas there now; feel free to add yours and we can discuss in future meetings14:39
edleafeAlso, I need someone to chair next 2 meetings on April 4 & 1114:40
edleafeNormally bauzas would fill in, but he's not here, so if anyone else wants to get in on the fun, now's your chance!14:40
mriedemedleafe: make cdent do it14:41
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mriedemedleafe: probably just ask bauwser tomorrow14:41
edleafemriedem: I was planning on that14:41
edleafeBut I like the cdent idea...14:41
edleafeAnyone else have anything to discuss?14:42
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mriedemnope14:42
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mriedemle'ts get that allocation objects patch reviewed and merged this week14:42
mriedemi challenge you all! :)14:43
edleafeoooohh, a challenge!14:43
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mriedema shiny nickel to whomever brings me the head of colonel montoya by the start of the rainy season14:43
jaypipesand the compute_node-statistics one please.14:43
jaypipesand the compute-node-inventory spec please.14:43
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mriedemend it14:44
edleafeLooks like we have enough to keep us busy14:44
edleafe#endmeeting14:44
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dims#startmeeting oslo15:00
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stevemarisn't this too early?15:00
bknudsonmy calendar has this meeting starting in an hour15:00
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rbradfordims your an hour ahead15:01
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rbradfordims, +115:02
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dims#startmeeting oslo16:00
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dims#topic Mitaka update16:01
miquihi all...16:01
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dimswe ended up doing one last batch from stable/mitaka branches last night16:01
dimsoslo.messaging 4.6.0 broke windows CI. Fix is in progress (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298195/)16:01
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dimsso we'll end up with a 4.6.1 for oslo.messaging16:02
dimsdid anyone else see any CI failures? please holler immediately16:02
bknudsonwindows CI?16:02
dimsbknudson : yep16:03
dimsbknudson claudiu pinged me early in the AM and we came up with that fix16:03
dims#topic Red flags for/from liaisons16:03
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bknudsonthey don't report CI failures to gerrit they report to you?16:03
jungleboyjdims: Nothing from Cinder.16:03
amrithnone from trove at this time.16:03
dimsthanks jungleboyj amrith16:04
bknudsonno red flags from keystone that I know of16:04
dimsthanks bknudson16:04
johnsomI found an issue where networkx changed it's module paths in 1.11, but that only impacted a documentation feature in TaskFlow.  I put a quick patch up for that.  Otherwise nothing from LBaaS16:04
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dimswe'll need to make sure requirements branch of stable/mitaka has the right upper-constraints. already pinged mriedem about it16:04
dimsjohnsom : ack thanks16:05
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dimsk let's switch to open discussion as i don't have any other topics16:06
dims#topic Open discussion16:06
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rbradforso, I've been working with harlowja on his advocacy work.16:06
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miquihi , am thinking into looking at oslo.logging first...16:07
dimseveryone, please look at the Design Summit schedule16:07
dims#link http://markmail.org/message/yeg57r5yyddveoka16:07
* amrith waits for a break in the traffic16:07
dimsrbradfor : got a etherpad?16:07
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dimsmiqui : sounds good16:07
rbradforone part of advocacy is blogging, and one part of blogging is a planned approach.  See https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo_blog16:07
dimsany volunteers for blogging? ^^16:08
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amrithdims, happy to help with blogging16:08
rbradfordims, we are seeking volunteers in Newton to put their name on a oslo project, and then a calendar week16:08
dimsrbradfor : looks promising16:08
rbradforwhile we have a much bigger picture in advocacy, this is the background resource work.16:08
dimsrbradfor : somehow reuse the blogging material into documentation too?16:09
amrithmaybe I could blog about the soon to be obsolete isotime() function :)16:09
dimsLOL +1 amrith16:09
dimsseriously, yes, we should amrith16:09
amrithI will be taking that conversation to the mailing list as discussed at last OSLO meeting.16:09
rbradforwe are also wanting the blogger to update developer docs with better examples,  following the examples of oslo.log (which includes actual docs/source/examples/*.py, and that running codde is embedded into usage documentation16:09
amrithI have written up a lengthy description of the issues16:09
amrithand some possible solutions.16:09
rbradforamrith, absolutely, we want exactly these types of issues also16:09
* amrith makes a note to update Wikipedia entry for 'lightning rod'16:10
rbradforamrith, speaking of wiki, what does OpenStack have about projects?16:10
amrithrbradford, say again plz16:11
dimsrbradfor : project vs tenant?16:11
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rbradfor#link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStack16:11
amrithhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStack16:11
rbradforno mention of Olso, will have to change that.16:11
rbradfordims, you talking about context?16:12
dimsah ok16:12
amrithah, good point16:12
dimsrbradfor : misunderstood "OpenStack have about projects"16:12
amrithI have a note to also add more details about Trove.16:12
rbradfordims, ok.16:12
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rbradfor#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo_blog16:13
bknudsonoslo people might find this interesting -- proposed switching keystone to use oslo.db's opportunistic testing -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295837/16:14
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bknudsonit found a few issues with keystone's unit tests16:14
dimsbknudson : nice16:15
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rpodolyakanice!16:15
dimsreminds me, not sure if i posted this already - DSVM jobs now generate a deprecations.txt - http://logs.openstack.org/58/294758/18/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full/713d8bb/logs/deprecations.txt.gz16:15
amrithdims: very good change!16:16
amriththanks16:16
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rbradfordims, I'm not sure you have mentioned it before, but I've been looking at them, it's great.16:16
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rbradfordims, inspired one now merged patch16:16
dimsthanks. bknudson : glance seems to be generating deprecations from keystone a lot16:16
dimsrbradfor : cool16:17
dimsanyone get a change to see ozamiatin 's zmq status to ML?16:17
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dims#link http://markmail.org/message/owimiyhpe6aj4v3v16:17
bknudsonhopefully the deprecation messages are clear enough for the problems to be fixed.16:18
rbradfordims, it also produced a great flameout also, seems keystone has it's own inconistencies in renamed options16:18
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dimsbknudson : so the idea is to look at the count (first column) then go searching logs16:18
dimsrbradfor : ack16:19
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dimskgiusti : haven't asked you in a while here, all's well in qpid-proton-land?16:19
kgiustidims: as well as ever :P16:19
dimshaha16:19
kgiustiI'm working on a summit preso16:19
dimsnice16:20
kgiustiexplaining the work I'm doing with qpid-dispatch router16:20
kgiustiand oslo.messaging16:20
kgiustibring rotten tomatoes16:20
kgiustiozamiatin's status puts me to shame ....16:21
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dims:)16:21
kgiustiI'll get a formal status together for summit16:21
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dimskgiusti : ack thanks16:22
dimsanyone here not making it to the summit?16:22
rbradfordims, I'll be attending16:22
dimsthanks rbradfor16:23
rbradforshall we do a roll call?16:23
johnsomI will be attending as well16:23
kgiustime three16:23
rbradfordims, when do you think we will have a schedule of Oslo design slots?16:24
dimsanyone who can't make it, please let harlowja and me know how to make sure you are involved we can do hangouts etc16:24
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dimsrbradfor : the time slots are ready, the etherpad has ideas, so we should all try to figure out which goes where and combine talks if needed16:25
dimsrbradfor : harlowja is on point for that16:25
rbradfordims, I'd not seen an anouncement of the timeslots.16:25
dimsam sure he can use help16:25
rbradfordims, happy to help!16:25
dimsrbradfor : if you scroll back i posted link16:26
dimsrbradfor http://markmail.org/message/yeg57r5yyddveoka16:26
rbradfordims, thanks, missed that.16:26
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dimsone success...oslo.messaging now advertises python 3 support as we have a functional test that runs python3 + rabbit16:27
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dimsanything else from anyone?16:28
dimsthanks everyone. talk to you all next week16:28
dims#endmeeting16:28
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mfedosinCourtesy meeting reminder ( #openstack-meeting-alt ): nikhil_k, ativelkov, mfedosin, docaedo, dshakhray, kfox111, kairat, nikhil, sudipto17:29
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nikhilo/17:30
kairato/17:30
sudiptoo/17:30
mfedosin#startmeeting glare17:30
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 28 17:30:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mfedosin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:30
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:30
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glare'17:30
mfedosin#topic agenda17:30
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mfedosin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-artifacts-sub-team-meeting-agenda17:31
mfedosin#topic Updates17:31
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mfedosinthere are a lot of updates in last week...17:31
mfedosinfirst of all, here is the link17:32
mfedosin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292327/917:32
mfedosinfirst, now Glare has FaultWrapper middleware17:33
mfedosinit catches all exceptions from Glare and maps them to webob exceptions17:33
nikhil\o/17:33
mfedosinso, no more 500s :)17:33
nikhilamazing work!17:33
mfedosinDarja did it :)17:34
mfedosinI will tell her17:34
nikhil:)17:34
mfedosinthen, we put blob uploading/downloading in engine17:34
mfedosinso, artifact type works only with dicts, that describe blob17:35
mfedosinas you may know engine is a thing that represents glance Domain model in Glare17:36
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mfedosinit does the same things: policies, notifications, sharing, and work with storage17:36
mfedosinbut does it in one place17:36
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mfedosinand the code is not distracted among the project17:37
mfedosin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292327/9/glance/glare/engine.py17:37
mfedosinalso, I finished listing for Glare, but it's not merged yet17:38
nikhilI still don't get it17:38
mfedosinnikhil: what?17:38
nikhilso, does this mean it won't have the proxy and unproxy objects?17:38
nikhilthis == engine?17:39
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nikhilwhat's not spread over the project is what I'm mostly curious about17:39
mfedosincurrently we have code of Domain model separated in glance17:40
mfedosinpolicy.py, location.py etc17:40
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mfedosinand there it uses composition to combine them in one17:40
kairatyep17:40
mfedosinengine is a flat structure17:40
nikhilyes, it does chaining17:41
kairatthat's much simplier17:41
nikhilok, there are tradeoffs to both approaches17:41
nikhilthe flat code has tendency to bloat17:41
nikhilbut it's okay if we want to take this route17:41
mfedosinwe will keep it slim :)17:41
nikhilv1 has flat structure (and may be you like it may be you don;t :) )17:41
kairatv1 doesn't have oslo vo17:42
mfedosinI think size of method matters17:42
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mfedosinif you have one method in 200 lines - it's bad17:43
mfedosinwe just try to use the base practice - method should fit in one screen17:43
nikhilcool17:43
nikhilwe can chat more on your concerns at the summit17:43
mfedosinso, all methods there are really small17:43
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nikhiljust trying to make sure everyone is on the same page here17:44
mfedosinokay, I don't mind17:44
nikhilI'm not opposed to the approach, let's make sure all the new and old devs are aware of this.17:44
kairatah, ok,17:44
mfedosinI always like to chat at the summit :)17:44
kairatmaybe worth mention this in spec also17:44
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nikhil:)17:45
nikhilkairat: good idea17:45
nikhildeveloper impact17:45
mfedosin#action Describe developer impact in the spec17:45
kairatI also can't see big troubles to move to layers17:46
kairatif they really needed17:46
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mfedosinkairat: ++17:46
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nikhilcool17:46
kairatbecause splitting is always easier than merging17:46
mfedosinokay, let's move to the next topic17:46
mfedosin#topic Listing of all artifacts. Do we need it?17:46
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mfedosinwe had a meeting today17:46
mfedosinwhere they say that we need to support listing of all artifacts17:47
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mfedosinnikhil: what do you think about this use case?17:47
nikhilmfedosin: who are they :) ?17:48
mfedosinit's primarily app-catalog feature17:48
kairatthat's required for app-catalog17:48
nikhilah17:48
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kairatI would say app-catalog guys and murano guys17:48
mfedosinyup, they == Mirantis members of app-catalog17:48
nikhilah cool17:48
nikhilquick question on that then:17:48
nikhil do we have a final verdict on how we are going to implement glance.objects?17:48
mfedosinas we plan, I suppose17:49
mfedosinsome of them will be in glance repo17:49
nikhilI mean are we okay on keeping a separate repo openstack/glare.objects ?17:49
kairatah17:49
nikhilor whatever glare_objects?17:49
mfedosinothers may be placed in separate lib17:49
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nikhilif we can ensure that the Glance API will expose certain specific Artifacts always..17:50
kzaitsev_mbI'd say, that listing of all the artifacts is desired on the app-catalog side of things17:50
mfedosinfor exxample, 'image' is a part of Glare and must be in Glance repo17:50
nikhilmeaning there's nothing optional here and only they can be listed as a part of the _all_ call17:50
kzaitsev_mbif there is no such API — the only way to do it would be to issue n requests for each art type17:50
nikhilsure, I think to pass DefCore we need something that everyone is okay to expose as a part of the public api17:51
nikhilkzaitsev_mb: my feeling is that we implement this call in the glare_client17:51
kzaitsev_mband it would be really nice to have the api call that abstracts it away17:51
nikhillike the n requests thing you mention17:51
kzaitsev_mbyep, I understand, that in any case it would be a slow call17:51
nikhilkeeping in the client would ensure that we don't expect all services to implement this separately17:51
mfedosinI wanted to create new read-only artifact type 'all'17:51
mfedosinso - listing all artifacts will be like17:52
mfedosin /v1/artifacts/all17:52
mfedosinGET17:52
nikhilthat's the exact item that was pushed back last cycle, no?17:52
mfedosinthen it takes all artifacts without their type-specific properties17:53
mfedosinkind off17:53
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mfedosinbut it will be optional17:53
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nikhilLet's keep DefCore and API_WG in loop for such calls. It would be worse if we don't get approved for one call!17:53
mfedosinso if operator wants this feature he can enable it in his config17:54
mfedosinnikhil: agree17:54
nikhilvs. keeping in client would ensure we don't have to worry about performance in the API17:54
nikhilthe pagination and sorting logic can be kept int he client too17:54
mfedosinbut Alex told me that it was main defcore request17:54
mfedosinto have these requests17:54
nikhiloh, I see.17:54
nikhilok, let's get in touch with them this week if possible.17:55
mfedosindo they have any irc meeting?17:55
nikhilyes17:56
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nikhilhttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#DefCore_Committee_Meeting17:56
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nikhilI don't see agenda there17:56
nikhilI will ping separately, you guys can continue this meeting until then17:57
mfedosinI'll be there17:57
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mfedosinbut we planned to organize kinda interview at this time17:57
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mfedosinOkay, now we have 5 minutes, and I'm going to tell you what should be done this week:17:57
mfedosin#topic Future work17:58
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mfedosin1. Separate base properties from custom properties in image artifact type17:58
mfedosin2. Implement tags support17:58
mfedosin3. Add coercing for blobs17:58
mfedosin4. Start working on new Context middleware17:59
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mfedosinI think if there are no question we can finish here18:00
kairat=118:00
kairat+118:00
mfedosinthanks all, see you next week!18:00
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mfedosin#endmeeting18:00
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 28 19:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
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catherineDpvaneck: hi .. let's wait for a few mins19:02
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catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-03-2819:02
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catherineDok Let's start..19:05
catherineD#topic RefStack Newton summit discussion topics19:05
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sslypushenkoo/19:06
catherineDsslypushenko: Hi19:06
Rockygo/19:06
catherineDAgenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-16-03-2819:06
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catherineDI started an etherpad for Austin summit topics19:07
catherineD#link     Please add your topics to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-newton-summit19:07
catherineDI also find that RefStack has a conflict session with EC2=API Wed  11:00 - 11:40 . I plan to ask for reschedule of this RefStack sessions so that Alex and Andrey can attend the RefStack session.19:08
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pvaneckwell, they still have the two sessions before it right?19:08
pvaneckspeaker session is monday?19:09
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catherineDI think so let's double check19:09
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catherineDit is Monday19:10
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catherineDplease take a look a add topics that we should discuss19:10
catherineDsslypushenko: Rockyg: Have you booked your hotel?19:11
RockygYes.  Hilton19:12
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catherineDso right at the conference site ?19:12
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Rockygyup19:12
catherineDlucky you :-)19:12
sslypushenkocatherineD:  I don't know) Someone from our company do organization stuff for our team19:12
catherineDsslypushenko: ic .... I am so glad that we will finally meet after 2 or 3 years working together19:13
Rockyg++19:13
sslypushenkoyeap)) me too)19:14
catherineDmoving on ..19:14
catherineD#topic Make puppet pull releases from Pypi19:14
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catherineDpvaneck: could you give an update ..19:14
pvaneckwell, we finally have the two +2s... will push for the merge later in the day19:15
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catherineDpvaneck: great  ... thank you... it has been a long journey :-)19:16
catherineD#topic Vendor user management implementation19:16
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catherineD#link     Add user management REST API  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285714/   finally merged last Saturday ... There were a lot problems with Jenkin last week ...19:17
catherineDmoving on ...19:18
pvanecknpm jobs had high failure rates19:18
pvaneckhorizon was experiencing them as well19:18
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pvaneckhttp://tinyurl.com/h9h4evp a relevant graph19:19
catherineDpvaneck: yea ... is there any other project besides  horizon and refstack ?19:19
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catherineDI guess any projects with UI19:19
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pvaneckyea, a few others using js19:20
catherineDnow we know .. weekend with fewer jobs is the better time for recheck ...19:20
catherineD#topic Vendor registation19:20
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catherineD#link Spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274837/ was merged March 319:21
catherineDno implementation so far19:21
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catherineDLast week Alex indicated that they are busy until end of March ...19:22
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catherineDWill check with Alex and Anddrey at the end of the week ...19:22
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pvaneckthere is implementation in the WIP new refstack model patch19:23
pvaneckbut maybe not completely to spec, and it would also have to be extracted into a separate patch19:23
catherineDlooks like RefStack won't be able to meet our target for vendor and product registration for Mitaka19:23
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catherineDpvaneck: ++19:24
pvaneckwe shall see19:24
catherineDLet's check with Alex and Andrey .. Maybe some other RefStack members can help19:24
catherineDRockyg: this is the reason I was delaying the response to your project target requests ...19:25
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catherineDWe did not meet the targets that we set for the Mitaka release and it affect the planning for the next release ...19:26
catherineDmoving on ..19:26
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catherineD#topic Product registration19:27
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catherineD#link Spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292526/   needs review19:27
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catherineDI expect there will be a lot of discussion on this spec ...19:29
catherineDAgain Alex and Andrey are busy we will wait until end of March19:30
catherineD#topic Pending reviews19:30
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catherineD#link REST API specification to retrieve DefCore Guideline files  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296829/19:31
catherineDsslypushenko: could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296829/19:31
sslypushenkocatherineD:  on my way19:31
catherineDsslypushenko: thx19:32
catherineD#link Handle the cases guideline download failure with Test list download.  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296985/19:32
catherineDpvaneck: do you think the changes in this patch are still needed with the API in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296829/  are implemented?19:33
catherineDwill we update the js to call the API?19:33
pvaneckeh i think still having client-side generated tests list is still nice19:34
catherineDpvaneck: ok19:34
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catherineDmoving on19:34
catherineD#topic Open Discussion19:35
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catherineDsslypushenko: pvaneck: I will set up a meeting later to discuss the topics and agenda for the session ... may be on Wed oir Thur ... I will need to check with Chris on his schedule too19:36
sslypushenkocatherineD:  sure19:36
catherineDsslypushenko: which day is better for you or both are good ?19:36
sslypushenkoboth will work, but wed is little bit better19:37
pvaneckwed is better for me as well19:37
catherineDsslypushenko: OK I will check with Chris19:37
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catherineDis 17 UTC OK?19:38
RockygI think so.19:38
catherineDon Wed19:38
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sslypushenkoI'd prefer a little bit latter time, 18 UTC will ok19:40
sslypushenkoor even 19 UTC19:40
catherineDOK we  shoot for 18 or 19 UTC?19:40
catherineDsslypushenko: thx19:40
catherineDwhat time is 19 UTC for you ?19:40
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sslypushenko10pm19:41
catherineDso after the meeting will be 11:00 pm :-)19:41
sslypushenkothat is ok)19:42
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catherineDanything else to discuss?19:42
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pvaneckgood here19:42
sslypushenkoMinor question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296829...19:42
catherineDsure19:42
sslypushenkoDo we really sure that this spec will cover any future changes in Defcore guidelines?19:43
catherineDsslypushenko: we know it covers all features releated to test list today ... we will need to update as the DefCore schema changes19:44
catherineDlike Foundation may add more target programs ..19:45
Rockyg++19:45
sslypushenkoAPI versioning can be pain in the ass, so should be prepared, if we want to move to API approach instead of just single data file19:45
catherineDsslypushenko: agree19:45
sslypushenkoSo, my actual question is, do we really need to move to new approach?19:46
catherineDsslypushenko: yes that is a request by Chris at the mid cycle19:46
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catherineDDefCore mid-cycle19:46
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sslypushenkook, then19:46
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catherineDmainly because of alias test names19:47
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catherineDtest and path name changes in Tempest19:47
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sslypushenkoI'll review the spec. It should be a little bite general  and extandeble19:48
catherineDI just submit this in the week end https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297993/19:48
catherineDsslypushenko: sure ...please leave comments ... that is why we need review ... thx19:48
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sslypushenkook, will try)19:49
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catherineDideally people should test with all API test and not just from a list ... but that is how people have been testing ...19:49
catherineDsslypushenko: thank you!19:49
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catherineDanything else?19:50
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sslypushenkocatherineD:  It is my pleasure to work in RefStack team)19:50
catherineDsslypushenko: you are a very valuable reviewer that we can count on !!19:51
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Rockyg++19:52
catherineDanything else?  if not the US west coast people got 9 mins for a quick lunch?  :-)19:52
catherineDThank you all!!!19:52
Rockyg:-)19:53
sslypushenko))19:53
catherineD#endmeeting19:53
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RockygThanks.  Talk Wednesday!19:53
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catherineDRockyg: yup19:53
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redrobot#startmeeting barbican20:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 28 20:00:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is redrobot. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:00
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redrobot#topic Roll Call20:00
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edtubillo/20:00
mp1o /20:00
silos\o/20:00
woodster_o/20:00
diazjfo/20:00
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redrobotas usual the agenda can be found here:20:02
redrobot#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda20:02
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redrobot#topic Release Candidate 220:03
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redrobotWe found a critical bug in the database migrations20:03
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redrobot#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/156209120:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1562091 in Barbican "Wrong table name in alembic version" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Christopher Solis (cnsolis)20:03
arunkanto/20:03
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redrobotthe fix was merged, and I think we're ready to release an RC220:03
redrobotmany thanks to silos for the fix20:04
silosredrobot: np. After that fix we can now test alembic in the gate forever now. No more worrying about this in the future20:04
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redrobotany questions/comments about RC2 ?20:05
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redrobotokay, let's move on20:06
redrobot#topic Secret User Metadata Quotas20:06
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redrobotProject Quotas vs. Secret Quotas ?20:06
redrobotdiazjf your topic?20:06
diazjfredrobot, ok so I am creating quotas for Secret User metdata20:07
diazjfmy question is should they be per project or per secret20:07
diazjfPer Secret seems to make sense, but I'm thinking of a company charging for total metadata per project.20:08
kfarrdiazjf, do you mean *or per user?20:08
redrobotI think maybe per secret makes sense20:08
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redrobotkfarr I think all quotas are per-project?20:08
kfarroh nm20:08
diazjfkfarr, no worries20:08
jmckindo/20:08
redrobotI agree per-secret seems to make sense.20:08
diazjfredrobot, ok yeah per project its too spread out20:09
diazjfJust wondering before I decide to code it up20:09
redrobottotal metadata limit per project would be max_secrets * max_meta_per_secret20:09
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diazjfredrobot sounds good20:10
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redrobot#agreed metadata quotas should be set at the secret level20:10
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redrobotok, moving on20:11
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redrobot#topic Bug: Incorrect Error Code when Passing Accept Header on a Secret GET20:11
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diazjfAlso mine20:11
redrobot#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/156170120:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561701 in Barbican "Incorrect Error Code when Passing Accept Header on a Secret GET" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Fernando Diaz (diazjf)20:11
woodster_redrobot: max_secrets * max_...  or current_num_secrets * current_meta_in_project > max_meta?20:11
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woodster_redrobot: can move on, catch up in IRC20:12
redrobotwoodster_ no prob.... it would depend on what the company is charging for.20:12
redrobotdiazjf go ahead20:13
diazjfSo theres a Bug that if you pass the accept header with text/plain or application/octet-stream you get a 500.20:13
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diazjfcurrently it tries to get a payload on GET secrets.{uuid}20:14
diazjfwhen according to the API should only get the metadata20:14
diazjfand on GET secrets/{uuid}/payload should get the payload20:15
* redrobot hides from content-type discussions20:15
woodster_diazjf: and that's only if no payload correct? If there is a payload then could decrypt20:15
diazjfwoodster_ correct20:15
* woodster_ I forgot! hiding too...20:15
elmikoo/20:15
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redrobotoh so like after step 1 of a two-step secret store20:16
diazjfredrobot yup20:16
woodster_diazjf: what does get secrets/.../payload return if there is no payload? 404?20:16
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diazjfwoodster_ we get a 500 StorePluginNotAvailableOrMisconfigured20:17
diazjfSo I wanted to step1 change so that you only get a payload when doing GET /payload20:17
diazjfelse metadata20:17
woodster_diazjf: :\20:17
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woodster_diazjf: would you be up for adding more functional tests to verify that fixed behavior?20:18
redrobotthat breaks backwards compat with early releases of Barbican :-\20:18
redrobotI think the correct backwards-compatible response should be 406 Not Acceptable20:18
woodster_diazjf: I'm not sure about /payload returning the secret metadata...that is distinct from the secret's payload to me20:18
aleeo/20:18
redrobotafter step 120:19
randallburtredrobot:  why not 404? its not there, right?20:19
diazjfwoodster_ so /payload would return payload, and secrets/uuid will only return metadata20:19
woodster_redrobot: do you mean on a /payload call with no payload return 406?20:19
diazjfI proposed my step 1 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297820/20:19
redrobotI think a GET to /payload should return 40420:19
redrobotand a GET to /secrets/{uuid} with 'application/json' or no accept should return the metadata20:20
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redrobotand a GET to /secrets/{uuid} with text/plain or app/octet should return 406 not acceptable20:20
redrobotrandallburt ^^20:20
randallburtredrobot:  and any other content-type return 406?20:20
randallburtredrobot:  right20:20
woodster_redrobot: agreed20:21
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diazjfredrobot, woodster_, +120:21
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randallburtyep, makes sense to me20:21
diazjfJust wanted to know before I start working on it20:21
* woodster_ the ghost of content-types is still lingering after 2.5+ years20:21
redrobotawesome... agreement all around. :D20:21
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redrobotwoodster_ yup... and rellerreller and I have threatened to bring them back in v2 ;)20:22
elmikolol20:22
woodster_redrobot: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻20:22
* redrobot lols20:23
siloslol20:23
redrobotI think we're all in agreement for the fix20:23
diazjf        ___20:23
diazjf       _/ ..\20:23
diazjf      ( \  0/__ Booo I am the ghost of content-types20:23
diazjf       \    \__)20:23
diazjf       /     \20:23
diazjf     /      _\20:23
diazjf     `"""""``20:23
elmikohaha20:23
redrobotlmfao20:23
woodster_diazjf: nice!20:23
redrobotok, moving on20:24
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redrobot#topic Austin Summit Planning20:24
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redrobot#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-barbican-design-sessions20:25
redrobotJust a reminder that we have an etherpad for session planning20:26
diazjfrellerreller's talk got accepted https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7229?goback=120:26
redrobotlooks like we'll have 2 fishbowls, a few design sessions and 1 half-day meetup20:26
redrobotwoot!  contrats rellerreller !!!20:27
woodster_+120:27
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redrobotI think that's all we have on the agenda for today20:29
redrobot#topic Open Discussion20:29
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redrobotBueller?20:30
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silospatch just needs a workflow: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298329/20:30
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arunkantcan this host_href change be reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282581/ . It has been pending for review for a while.20:30
silosredrobot: thanks!20:31
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redrobotdiazjf do you think you can get a fix for that bug in the next few days?  I think we may want to include it in RC220:33
diazjfredrobot, yeah I'll let you know by tomorrow if I have time20:34
redrobotdiazjf awesome, thanks20:34
diazjfredrobot, np20:34
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redrobot#help need core reviewers for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282581/20:34
redrobotanything else?20:35
redrobotif not we can have 25 min back20:35
redrobotalright then, y'all.  thanks for coming!20:36
redrobot#endmeeting20:36
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openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-03-28-20.00.txt20:36
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2016/barbican.2016-03-28-20.00.log.html20:36
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