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| n0ano | #startmeeting nova-scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 14:00:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is n0ano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:01 |
| edleafe | o/ | 14:01 |
| n0ano | So, anyone here to talk abou the scheduler? | 14:01 |
| * n0ano edleafe is too quick today | 14:01 | |
| edleafe | today and everyday! | 14:01 |
| jaypipes | mornin | 14:01 |
| n0ano | edleafe, you do realize it's morngin and some of us aren't really awake yet :-) | 14:02 |
| edleafe | that's what coffee is for | 14:02 |
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| n0ano | nor really working today, anyway bauzas are you around? | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: I'm here, but for a few mins | 14:03 |
| bauzas | n0ano: have a doctor's appointement | 14:03 |
| n0ano | NP | 14:03 |
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| jaypipes | reviews reviews reviews everyone. | 14:03 |
| n0ano | #topic Liberty patches – https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:03 |
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| n0ano | jaypipes, indeed, looks like bauzas object API is finally getting some movement | 14:04 |
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| n0ano | but also looks like it's in rebase hell, part of the game I guess | 14:04 |
| bauzas | yep | 14:05 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: yeah, and the gate blockage hasn't helped either.. | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | we have a last min patch to land thanks to alex_xu | 14:05 |
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| n0ano | I expect those kind of issues will just get worse the closer to release we get | 14:06 |
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| n0ano | any specific patches people especially want reviewed or should we just go down the list on the priorities page? | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: I've been going down the priorities list.. | 14:07 |
| bauzas | +1 | 14:07 |
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| n0ano | sounds like a plan then | 14:07 |
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| n0ano | I not hearing issues here so, just review everyone | 14:07 |
| n0ano | #topic opens | 14:08 |
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| n0ano | anything new for today? | 14:08 |
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| n0ano | I don't want to discuss today but we should start to think about design session we want for Tokyo | 14:09 |
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| jaypipes | n0ano: gah, I feel like YVR just finished... | 14:09 |
| jaypipes | but alas it's been 3 monhts. | 14:09 |
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| n0ano | jaypipes, :-) | 14:09 |
| n0ano | I know I want to talk about flavor evolution but we should think about other things also | 14:10 |
| n0ano | I'll put Tokyo session on our agenda for next week, think about it | 14:10 |
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| n0ano | I'm not hearing anything, I guess everybody is anxious to get back to reviewing | 14:11 |
| edleafe | yep | 14:12 |
| bauzas | well, it's in 2 months but sure we can begin to draw a few prios | 14:12 |
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| bauzas | maybe just beginning with an etherpad of wishes ? | 14:12 |
| bauzas | that's pretty low engagement for the moment | 14:12 |
| n0ano | bauzas, good idea, I'll see about setting one up | 14:13 |
| bauzas | not sure we really need to talk yet | 14:13 |
| n0ano | #action n0ano to start a Mitaka scheduler etherpad | 14:13 |
| bauzas | ok I need to drop off | 14:13 |
| n0ano | bauzas, NP | 14:14 |
| bauzas | back in 2 hours - if the doctor releases me soon | 14:14 |
| n0ano | unless there are any other opens? | 14:14 |
| bauzas | ++ | 14:14 |
| n0ano | #endmeeting | 14:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 14:14:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-08-31-14.00.html | 14:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-08-31-14.00.txt | 14:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-08-31-14.00.log.html | 14:14 |
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| dims | #startmeeting oslo | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for GheRivero, amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, dansmith, dhellmann, dougwig, e0ne, flaper87, garyk, harlowja, haypo, | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for ihrachyshka, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti, kragniz, lifeless, lintan, ozamiatin, redrobot, rpodolyaka, | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 16:00:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dims. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| dims | courtesy ping for sergmelikyan, sreshetnyak, sileht, sreshetnyak, stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:00 |
| viktors | hi! | 16:00 |
| rpodolyaka_ | o/ | 16:00 |
| ozamiatin | o/ | 16:00 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 16:00 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 16:00 |
| dims | Anyone here today? :) | 16:00 |
| Fdaisuke | o/ | 16:01 |
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| dims | cool. let's get started | 16:01 |
| dims | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 16:01 |
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| jungleboyj | None from Cinder. | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | I think there is nothing from neutron. | 16:01 |
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| dims | thanks jungleboyj ihrachys | 16:02 |
| * flaper87 clear on Zaqar and Glance | 16:02 | |
| harlowja_at_home | yo yo | 16:02 |
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| dims | fyi, i've been working on - Add a Experimental Job in Nova that uses all oslo libraries from respective branch (master nova from master oslo.*) | 16:02 |
| dims | anyone else interested in that? | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | +1 | 16:02 |
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| harlowja_at_home | oh oh, me me | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | my pleasure. :-) | 16:02 |
| harlowja_at_home | sounds useful dims | 16:02 |
| flaper87 | dims: we could use it in Glance too | 16:03 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218259/ | 16:03 |
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| harlowja_at_home | dims, is that like a periodic job? | 16:03 |
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| harlowja_at_home | like runs once a day to 'alert' of possible issues? | 16:03 |
| dims | flaper87: currently i am running it from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217875/ but ideally we'll get the devstack changes merged and add stuff to project-infra | 16:03 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: anyone should be able to run on demand | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | k | 16:04 |
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| rpodolyaka_ | that would be super useful, dims! | 16:04 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: not sure where periodic jobs end up | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | is there a big-red-button to run it? | 16:04 |
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| ihrachys | dims: neutron of course is interested in not being broken, yes | 16:04 |
| dims | "check experimental" :) | 16:04 |
| dims | ihrachys: cool | 16:04 |
| harlowja_at_home | ya, can u please get a http://www.staples-3p.com/s7/is/image/Staples/s0105150_sc7 button so that we can press that | 16:05 |
| dims | ihrachys: harlowja_at_home: rpodolyaka_: flaper87: between this new job and my travis setup - https://travis-ci.org/dims/ | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | thx much | 16:05 |
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| ihrachys | dims: periodic jobs get into a specified email | 16:05 |
| dims | we should be able to catch a bunch of things | 16:05 |
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| dims | ihrachys: aha | 16:05 |
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| harlowja_at_home | woah, whose https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/d843d86390a9294a21dd489095c8e30d :-P | 16:05 |
| dims | k looks like there's interest | 16:05 |
| dims | so i'll continue | 16:06 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: haha | 16:06 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:06 |
| dims | #topic Releases for Liberty | 16:06 |
| dims | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/435095/ | 16:06 |
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| dims | so that's what's left in the pipeline | 16:06 |
| dims | anyone see any issues making releases from that lot ^^^ | 16:06 |
| dims | i am trying not to bless any more stuff | 16:06 |
| dims | one thing came up mailing list was this one | 16:07 |
| dims | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218139/ - logging-flexibility | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | as long as u sprinkle some holy release water on the releases before blessing, i'm ok with the above | 16:07 |
| dims | anyone have a strong opinion to let that in? | 16:07 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: ++ | 16:07 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: unless you need anything else in taskflow for example | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | dims: I am for it, but you decide :) | 16:07 |
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| harlowja_at_home | don't think so | 16:07 |
| harlowja_at_home | 218139 seems ok to me | 16:07 |
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| dims | harlowja_at_home: ihrachys - ok i'll review it a bit more and then decide | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | dims: thanks! Fdaisuke ^^ | 16:08 |
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| dims | flaper87: kgiusti: do you need this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204246/ | 16:09 |
| dims | in liberty | 16:09 |
| Fdaisuke | ihrachys: dims: thank you, too! :) | 16:09 |
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| kgiusti | kgiusti: yeah, if possible | 16:09 |
| dims | Fdaisuke: thanks for the hard work | 16:09 |
| kgiusti | needs reviews (hint flaper87) | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | anyone know how to pronounce 'Pyngus' ? | 16:09 |
| harlowja_at_home | pie-nin-gus? | 16:10 |
| kgiusti | the P is silent :P | 16:10 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: does this look good to you? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208366/ | 16:10 |
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| kgiusti | harlowja_at_home: ping-gus | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | i don't want to ping gus | 16:10 |
| harlowja_at_home | haha | 16:10 |
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| dims | who is gus? | 16:10 |
| kgiusti | harlowja_at_home: original name "dingus" was taken, unfortunately | 16:10 |
| * jungleboyj sees this going downhill quickly. | 16:11 | |
| kgiusti | dims: don't know, but he's really not happy with all the pings | 16:11 |
| * flaper87 reviews | 16:11 | |
| harlowja_at_home | dims, will check that oslo.log one out, i haven't used pyinotify in a while, but will see if anything sticks out | 16:11 |
| flaper87 | I'd like to see those patches in (o.m ones) | 16:11 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: i have no intention of letting that in right now, so if you get a chance | 16:12 |
| harlowja_at_home | kk | 16:12 |
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| dims | flaper87: paste them here please so we know which ones? | 16:12 |
| flaper87 | dims: the one you already pasted | 16:13 |
| flaper87 | :D | 16:13 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204246/ | 16:13 |
| dims | k just that one | 16:13 |
| flaper87 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204696/1 | 16:13 |
| flaper87 | but the later is WIP | 16:13 |
| kgiusti | flaper87: need first one in first (?), then release pyngus 2.0, then the next one (python3 support) can follow that | 16:14 |
| kgiusti | flaper87: pyngus 2.0 adds support for py3 | 16:14 |
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| dims | ok, so let's poke at and bless https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204246/ | 16:14 |
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| harlowja_at_home | bless then poke at? | 16:15 |
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| harlowja_at_home | or poke at then bless? | 16:15 |
| harlowja_at_home | :-/ | 16:15 |
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| dims | :) | 16:15 |
| dims | #topic Open discussion | 16:16 |
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| flaper87 | kgiusti: yup, all that is clear. I would like to have them in anyway :P | 16:16 |
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| viktors | folks, just for your information - I'm going to leave Mirantis during this week | 16:17 |
| kgiusti | flaper87: sure, but please no more of that whip of your's | 16:17 |
| flaper87 | :P | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210770/ if anyone gets some other time free, yuriy i think wants to alter the api more, but i'm proposing more of a middle-ground approach there | 16:17 |
| dims | viktors: hope to see you here in Oslo! | 16:17 |
| * flaper87 leaves heads down | 16:17 | |
| harlowja_at_home | whose whipping who? | 16:17 |
| viktors | dims: will try to be in touch | 16:17 |
| dims | thanks viktors | 16:17 |
| harlowja_at_home | viktors, best of luck! | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | viktors: will you still be working on openstack? | 16:17 |
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| viktors | dhellmann: not sure - this company not related to openstack | 16:18 |
| viktors | harlowja_at_home: thanks! | 16:18 |
| rpodolyaka_ | thank you for the all hard work done here, viktors! we really appreciate that! | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | viktors: ah, ok. Well, good luck either way, and thank you for all of your work on oslo.db! | 16:18 |
| dims | rpodolyaka_: ++ | 16:18 |
| harlowja_at_home | may the force be with u :-P | 16:19 |
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| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:19 |
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| viktors | it's my pleasure, folks! | 16:19 |
| viktors | harlowja_at_home: :-D | 16:19 |
| dims | On another note, i proposed nuking oslo-incubator for M - http://markmail.org/message/rqkwbr7tmccnnvtl | 16:19 |
| harlowja_at_home | nuke it from space! | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | *from orbit, whatever | 16:20 |
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| johnsom | Just to be sure | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:20 |
| harlowja_at_home | * http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nuke+it+from+orbit (for people who have no idea what the heck this refers to, ha) | 16:21 |
| dims | yes johnsom, concerns? | 16:21 |
| kgiusti | dims: click that last link. | 16:21 |
| harlowja_at_home | i'm pretty sure johnsom just refering to '"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure." ' | 16:21 |
| dims | harlowja_at_home: the alien still made it back! pesky :) | 16:21 |
| dims | haha | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | dims: neutron uses cache module from there only, I believe we'll kill it in M | 16:22 |
| dims | ihrachys: y, can move to oslo.cache | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | I think there were some API differences that were not that obvious | 16:22 |
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| ihrachys | I will poke someone from oslo if stuck :) | 16:22 |
| johnsom | yeah, aliens reference | 16:22 |
| dims | ihrachys: ack. nova has a pending review for oslo.cache as well for inspiration | 16:23 |
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| dims | so if anyone else has big ticket ideas, let's kick it around on the mailing list or here before we meet in Tokyo | 16:23 |
| harlowja_at_home | cools | 16:24 |
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| dims | ihrachys: one of the first things we need to for neutron is related to this thread - http://markmail.org/message/2xlclp7gqnqpkted - if you remember we reverted some code in oslo.messaging to just log warnings | 16:25 |
| dims | (for M) | 16:25 |
| dims | i am adding "Things to Do" here | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Hmmm, I think Cinder is close to being off incubator except the scheduler. I will need to look. | 16:26 |
| dims | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-oslo-priorities-tracking | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Sorry for slow response. | 16:26 |
| dims | jungleboyj: thanks | 16:26 |
| dims | no worries | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | Certainly something we can plan for. | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | dims: ok, I added todo, missed it before | 16:26 |
| dims | thanks ihrachys | 16:26 |
| dims | that's all i head | 16:27 |
| dims | had | 16:27 |
| dims | Thanks a lot everyone, talk to you next week | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:27 |
| dims | #endmeeting | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 16:27:41 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:27 |
| viktors | bye! | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-31-16.00.html | 16:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-31-16.00.txt | 16:27 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-08-31-16.00.log.html | 16:27 |
| Fdaisuke | thanks a lot! | 16:27 |
| harlowja_at_home | bub bye | 16:27 |
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| catherineD | #startmeeting refstack | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 19:00:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'refstack' | 19:00 |
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| catherineD | roll call | 19:00 |
| pvaneck | o/ | 19:00 |
| dliu | Hello | 19:01 |
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| sslypushenko__ | o/ | 19:01 |
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| catherineD | #link meeting agenda and notes, please feel free to add items https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-15-08-31 | 19:01 |
| catherineD | hello everyone ... | 19:02 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 19:02 |
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| catherineD | let's start ... | 19:02 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD hi! | 19:02 |
| dliu | Hello Catherine | 19:02 |
| catherineD | first of all, I want to introduce dliu: ...who is from IBM China ... | 19:02 |
| pvaneck | hi dliu | 19:03 |
| pvaneck | welcome | 19:03 |
| dliu | Hi pvaneck | 19:03 |
| dliu | thanks a lot | 19:03 |
| sslypushenko__ | Hi, dliu! | 19:03 |
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| catherineD | dliu: will join us on the RefStack project ... | 19:03 |
| dliu | Hi sslypushenko | 19:03 |
| Rockyg | Welcome. Sorry for the early meeting... | 19:03 |
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| dliu | It's ok | 19:03 |
| dliu | my pleasure to meet all you guys | 19:04 |
| catherineD | dliu: what is your time now? | 19:04 |
| dliu | Hi Rockyg | 19:04 |
| dliu | 3:00 in the morning | 19:04 |
| catherineD | wow | 19:04 |
| dliu | :-) | 19:04 |
| catherineD | dliu: sorry ... | 19:04 |
| dliu | Iti | 19:05 |
| sslypushenko__ | really early) | 19:05 |
| dliu | It's ok, don't worry | 19:05 |
| catherineD | #topic No RefStack IRC next Monday (September 7) -- US holiday | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "No RefStack IRC next Monday (September 7) -- US holiday (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:05 | |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: and it is really late for you? | 19:05 |
| sslypushenko__ | not so much | 19:06 |
| catherineD | #topic Relocate RefStack Project | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Relocate RefStack Project (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:06 | |
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| catherineD | we are now in "Big Tent" .. | 19:06 |
| sslypushenko__ | That is great | 19:06 |
| pvaneck | :) | 19:07 |
| dliu | cool | 19:07 |
| catherineD | yep ... the next step is to move the repos ... I will look into creating a patch for that if needed | 19:07 |
| catherineD | #topic Infra hosting | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Infra hosting (Meeting topic: refstack)" | 19:07 | |
| Rockyg | I think Ops will handle that, but not positive | 19:08 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: that would be good .... | 19:08 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: any status on your patch ? | 19:08 |
| Rockyg | I'll ping them on the infra channel... | 19:08 |
| pvaneck | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214950/ | 19:08 |
| pvaneck | is the puppet-refstack patch that is needed | 19:08 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: thank you .... | 19:08 |
| pvaneck | it has one +2 | 19:09 |
| pvaneck | and is just awaiting another | 19:09 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: should we get on their IRC meeting ? | 19:09 |
| Rockyg | That's tomorrow at noon PDT | 19:09 |
| Rockyg | But, yeah. That would be good | 19:10 |
| pvaneck | i've brought it up already with jim | 19:10 |
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| pvaneck | should hopefully have a review soon | 19:10 |
| sslypushenko__ | We need to speedup hosting process | 19:10 |
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| Rockyg | sslypushenko__, good luck with that ;-) | 19:10 |
| catherineD | Let's get on infra IRC if there is no progress ... | 19:11 |
| pvaneck | still need to update the puppet-refstack refstack.conf template to account for new additions and changes | 19:11 |
| catherineD | pvaneck: so we need one more patch? | 19:11 |
| Rockyg | Can you have that done by noon tomorrow? I'll go see where their meeting agenda is.... | 19:12 |
| pvaneck | catherined: yes, I will submit one | 19:12 |
| pvaneck | yea, updating the refstack.conf should be straightforward | 19:12 |
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| catherineD | #action pvaneck: to submit a patch to update puppet-refstack restack.conf | 19:13 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: do we need to add ourself to the infra agenda | 19:13 |
| Rockyg | I'm checking now... | 19:14 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: thx .. | 19:14 |
| catherineD | with that can go the next topic which is kind of related to this one ... | 19:14 |
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| catherineD | #topic Disable anonymous data upload now that user can decide to share data anonymously | 19:15 |
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| catherineD | I really would like to disable that when we move to infra .... | 19:15 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 19:16 |
| catherineD | with anonymous data upload we can not delete data .... | 19:16 |
| sslypushenko__ | +1 | 19:16 |
| pvaneck | a key thing we need is instructions on the import key page for directions on signing keys (i.e. use refstack-client) | 19:16 |
| pvaneck | i will create a bug | 19:17 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherine we can add admin role with right to delete public data | 19:17 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: the problem is we do not know which data to delete ... | 19:17 |
| sslypushenko__ | but anyway there is not reason to keep anonymous upload | 19:17 |
| catherineD | or we have no criteria on which data should be deleted .... | 19:17 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: ++ | 19:17 |
| sslypushenko__ | pvaneck You are 100% right, we need updated docs | 19:18 |
| catherineD | since we all agree here ... let's submit a patch to disable anonymous upload ... | 19:18 |
| catherineD | #action Disable anonymous data upload to RefStack | 19:19 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD Lets update docs first | 19:19 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: agree | 19:19 |
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| catherineD | #agreed Anoymous data upload should only be disabled after RefStack docs are updated with instruction for key importing | 19:20 |
| catherineD | anything else? ready for the next topic? | 19:21 |
| sslypushenko__ | lets roll | 19:21 |
| catherineD | #topic Vendor registration process | 19:21 |
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| catherineD | Vendor registration and comparing data are the two items left from the Vancouver f2f meeting action items ... | 19:22 |
| catherineD | I have asked for a specification on the DefCore IRC meeting ... | 19:22 |
| catherineD | DefCore asked that I send a email to the DefCore ML ... | 19:23 |
| catherineD | I will send that email out today ... | 19:23 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 19:23 |
| catherineD | the specification should come from DefCore and the Foundation (hogepodge: ) | 19:24 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD I think vendor registration should be considered as out of scope for current cycle | 19:24 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: just in time .... | 19:24 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Spec for that item will be enought | 19:24 |
| catherineD | hogepodge: we are discussing vendor registration process ... | 19:24 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: yea ... at lease we should get a spec for that to plan our work ... | 19:25 |
| catherineD | to prepare for that .... let's get to the next item | 19:26 |
| Rockyg | If we can get the requirements/spec through the DefCore committee, that would be a great accomplishment. That is for Liberty | 19:26 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: sslypushenko__: I think so .... | 19:26 |
| sslypushenko__ | Rockyg Fully agreed | 19:26 |
| hogepodge | It's not critical short term. | 19:26 |
| hogepodge | I trust that vendors will send valid test results we can link to externally | 19:27 |
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| catherineD | #agreed Target for vendor resgistration for the Liberty cycle is to mergte a DefCore requirement specification patch | 19:28 |
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| catherineD | ok next discuss the next item ... | 19:29 |
| catherineD | #topic User/public key/result data relationship discussion | 19:29 |
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| catherineD | to prepare for vendor registration ... we need to review what we implemented today ... | 19:30 |
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| catherineD | today, data is associated to the key not user ... | 19:31 |
| catherineD | if the key is deleted the data is zombie ... | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko__ | not 100% right | 19:31 |
| dliu | that means we need to change the db table? | 19:31 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: please explain ... | 19:31 |
| sslypushenko__ | if user upload this key back test results will be associated back | 19:32 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: I am thinking of in the case when the user no longer works for a vendor ... | 19:32 |
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| catherineD | and that key belongs to the user ... | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko__ | хм... | 19:33 |
| sslypushenko__ | hmmm) | 19:33 |
| catherineD | how would the vendor keep the data? | 19:33 |
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| sslypushenko__ | It need some time to think | 19:33 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: yea I think so .... we need to consider the relation ship among user, data and vendor .... | 19:35 |
| sslypushenko__ | Basically, I think that vendor will have special accoutn | 19:35 |
| sslypushenko__ | so vendor will act as user | 19:35 |
| sslypushenko__ | maybe with some additional extra features | 19:35 |
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| Rockyg | So, what happens if the vendor decides to change his key? The person assigned to do the uploads leaves, and the vendor for security, changes the keys..... | 19:36 |
| sslypushenko__ | we can add possibility to move test results from user account to vendor one | 19:36 |
| catherineD | maybe there should be a master key that is owned by the vendor (master user) | 19:36 |
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| sslypushenko__ | sure... vendor should have a specific key | 19:37 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: Rockyg: I am thinking that each set of data will belongs to 2 keys (user key and vendor key) | 19:38 |
| sslypushenko__ | Sounds not bad) | 19:38 |
| catherineD | when the user leaves the company, vendor will delete the user key and add outher use key if needed ... | 19:39 |
| catherineD | I know we are discussiong all of this before we have a spec .. | 19:39 |
| Rockyg | sounds reasonable. But perhaps we should invite the security team in OpenStack to weigh in? | 19:39 |
| catherineD | but I would like is to think about these scenario and match it to the way we implemented today ... | 19:40 |
| Rockyg | They might know industry standards and opensource SW for the keys/management/etc | 19:40 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: absolutely ... for now I would like all of us to give some thoughts on the topic ... | 19:40 |
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| Rockyg | Sounds good | 19:41 |
| sslypushenko__ | We already have anought | 19:41 |
| catherineD | #info RefStack team to review the relationship among user/data/vendore | 19:41 |
| sslypushenko__ | *eought thing to think | 19:41 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: I know I know ... | 19:42 |
| catherineD | that bring us to the next topic .... | 19:42 |
| catherineD | #Open discussion | 19:42 |
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| catherineD | #topic Open discussion | 19:42 |
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| Rockyg | Ah. So, looks like the project teams files the patch to move the repos | 19:42 |
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| Rockyg | example: https://review.openstack.org/200730 | 19:43 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: that is super ... not thing for us to do .... thx for checking | 19:43 |
| Rockyg | Once filed, Ifra adds it to its list of Project renames, which are separate from the less heavy repo moves | 19:44 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: that definitely is more efficient ... | 19:44 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: so our speaker session is not selected :-( | 19:44 |
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| Rockyg | once approved, it gets scheduled by Ops. The repo move is scheduled for 10/17. I don't know if they'd do projects first or at the same time. | 19:45 |
| sslypushenko__ | I know( | 19:45 |
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| sslypushenko__ | Hope next time will be luckier ) | 19:45 |
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| sslypushenko__ | But what about f2f? | 19:46 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: I hope so ... I was hoping for us to demo all the new features | 19:46 |
| Rockyg | Next time, I think the foundation will do it as one of the main sessions.... | 19:46 |
| Rockyg | Or at least demo it as such. | 19:46 |
| Rockyg | Maybe even this time. | 19:46 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: if they do that we can recommend sslypushenko__: ? | 19:47 |
| Rockyg | I would think so... as the demo runner... | 19:47 |
| catherineD | anyway I was having high hope to demo to the community ... | 19:47 |
| sslypushenko__ | catherineD wow wow)) not so fast) | 19:48 |
| sslypushenko__ | I think I can't be a good demo runner) | 19:48 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: why not? | 19:48 |
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| sslypushenko__ | My English is really far from good enougth) | 19:49 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: that would not be too much problem if we are demoing to a technical committee ... | 19:50 |
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| sslypushenko__ | May be) | 19:51 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: no pressure ... just that you have done such an amazing contribution to the project ... | 19:51 |
| catherineD | back to the f2f ... | 19:51 |
| sslypushenko__ | But I really prefer to take part in Austin summit) | 19:51 |
| sslypushenko__ | If I will have a chance) | 19:52 |
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| catherineD | one of the major topic for the f2f is to discuss vendor registration ... | 19:52 |
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| catherineD | the other topic is non-tempest testing ... | 19:53 |
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| catherineD | for the vendor registration we just decide that the target for Liberty is a spec ... | 19:53 |
| catherineD | so the only topic is non-tempest testing .... | 19:53 |
| sslypushenko__ | I can share some results related with this topic | 19:54 |
| catherineD | Rockyg: I am thinking of inviting Randy Bias's team for t he EC2 testing ... | 19:54 |
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| sslypushenko__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214571/ | 19:54 |
| Rockyg | Sounds good. Only need one or two, but that makes it easier. | 19:54 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: that is great .... Let me check the date for a f2f with Randy's people and maybe checking with some RackSpace peole too .. | 19:55 |
| sslypushenko__ | It is results of work on running swift tests using tempest | 19:55 |
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| sslypushenko__ | It is far away from ready solution | 19:56 |
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| catherineD | #action catherineD: to select a date for a one day f2f meeting for non-tempest testing in RefStack /// | 19:56 |
| sslypushenko__ | but as proof of concept it is working | 19:56 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: that is great ... will take a look ... | 19:56 |
| catherineD | anything else before we close? | 19:56 |
| sslypushenko__ | so we cancel f2f this week& | 19:57 |
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| sslypushenko__ | ? | 19:57 |
| Rockyg | just we need someone to write the repo move patch | 19:57 |
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| Rockyg | I *might* be able to do it.... | 19:57 |
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| catherineD | sslypushenko__: yes we decided last week that we will reschedule ... | 19:57 |
| sslypushenko__ | okay | 19:58 |
| Rockyg | But pretty easy for pvaneck or sslypushenko__ | 19:58 |
| catherineD | sslypushenko__: I hope we did not mess you up ... | 19:58 |
| sslypushenko__ | Me too) | 19:58 |
| catherineD | on the reschedule ... | 19:58 |
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| catherineD | Rockyg: go for it ... | 19:59 |
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| catherineD | let's end the meeitng .. | 19:59 |
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| catherineD | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 19:59:53 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-08-31-19.00.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-08-31-19.00.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/refstack/2015/refstack.2015-08-31-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
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| catherineD | thank you alll! | 20:00 |
| Rockyg | k. Thanks! | 20:00 |
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| dliu | thank you | 20:00 |
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| dliu | glad to meet you all | 20:01 |
| rellerreller_ | o/ | 20:01 |
| diazjf | o? | 20:01 |
| diazjf | o/ | 20:01 |
| edtubill | o/ | 20:01 |
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| alee | barbican meeting? | 20:04 |
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| rellerreller_ | crickets | 20:04 |
| dave-mccowan | i think chellygel is supposed to chair | 20:04 |
| jhfeng | redrobot is not here yet | 20:04 |
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| alee | ah - just making sure it wasn't just me .. | 20:05 |
| woodster_ | redrobot is on vacation today I believe | 20:05 |
| diazjf | I think he's out today | 20:05 |
| dave-mccowan | #startmeeting Barbican | 20:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 20:05:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dave-mccowan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'barbican' | 20:05 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic Roll Call | 20:06 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Barbican)" | 20:06 | |
| alee | dave-mccowan, you chairing? | 20:06 |
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| rellerreller_ | o/ | 20:06 |
| silos1 | \o/ | 20:06 |
| arunkant | o/ | 20:06 |
| alee | o/ | 20:06 |
| jkf | o/ | 20:06 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 20:06 |
| dave-mccowan | i guess so. i just tried to see if it would work. I didn't expect it would. :-) | 20:06 |
| diazjf | o/ | 20:06 |
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| rellerreller_ | I smell a coup | 20:06 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, congrats -- you have been chaired | 20:06 |
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| chellygel | sorry guys! | 20:06 |
| kfarr | o/ | 20:06 |
| dave-mccowan | rellerreller_ quotas. quotas for everyone. | 20:06 |
| hockeynut | o/ | 20:06 |
| rellerreller_ | haha | 20:07 |
| alee | rellerreller_, is it a coup when no one else volunteers? | 20:07 |
| chellygel | who kicked it off? i apologize | 20:07 |
| chellygel | i'm the worst! | 20:07 |
| hockeynut | evah | 20:07 |
| woodster_ | my kingdom for a quota! | 20:07 |
| dave-mccowan | #chair chellygel | 20:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: chellygel dave-mccowan | 20:07 |
| chellygel | does this mean they bring me a fancy leather seat? | 20:08 |
| woodster_ | fit for a queen! | 20:08 |
| chellygel | dave-mccowan, if you'd like to run the meeting, i'd be happy to let you | 20:08 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, interesting -- can you be #de-chaired ? | 20:08 |
| dave-mccowan | alee meetingbot wars | 20:08 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic action items from last week | 20:09 |
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| dave-mccowan | <read in the voice of redrobot> | 20:09 |
| dave-mccowan | anyone have any update on an action item, or are they all redrobot's? | 20:09 |
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| jhfeng | o/ | 20:10 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic agenda | 20:10 |
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| dave-mccowan | as usual the agenda for this week can be found here: | 20:10 |
| dave-mccowan | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Barbican#Agenda | 20:10 |
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| dave-mccowan | any items to add? | 20:11 |
| rellerreller_ | That is so like redrobot. | 20:11 |
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| chellygel | did you say, there's a lot of barbicaneers here? thats the critical piece :P | 20:11 |
| dave-mccowan | i could just cut and paste last week's transcript. | 20:11 |
| dave-mccowan | chellygel haha. i missed that line. | 20:11 |
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| dave-mccowan | #topic test frameworks | 20:12 |
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| * dave-mccowan can take that one | 20:12 | |
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| dave-mccowan | rellerreller_, hockeynut, and i were talking about some inconsistencies in test tools | 20:13 |
| * woodster_ Added a note about ACL reviews to the agenda | 20:13 | |
| rellerreller_ | In the unit and functional tests we are using two different libraries. | 20:13 |
| rellerreller_ | We are using testtools for the unit tests and nose for the functional tests. | 20:13 |
| hockeynut | also gate versus desktop dev environment | 20:13 |
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| dave-mccowan | most of the time we use testrools and testr. in one case were using nosetests. | 20:14 |
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| dave-mccowan | is there any reason not to remove nosetests from tox -e functional? | 20:14 |
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| dave-mccowan | git blame says that jvrbanac add nosetests to tox.ini | 20:14 |
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| dave-mccowan | by using testr exclusively, we can have consistent attribute flags, consistent filtering, and maybe other stuff. | 20:15 |
| rellerreller_ | All of the attributes in functional tests are applied using testtools.attr, but those attributes are ignored by nose. | 20:16 |
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| rellerreller_ | You can see in the code that they do something similar to our parameterized tests. They add an attribute to the function object. | 20:16 |
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| rellerreller_ | For nose the attribute is inspected at runtime while testtools uses it modify the function name when doing a list operation. Then the developer passes a regex to ignore or invoke tests with an attribute by filtering the test name lists. | 20:16 |
| rellerreller_ | https://github.com/nose-devs/nose/blob/master/nose/plugins/attrib.py#L114 | 20:16 |
| rellerreller_ | https://github.com/testing-cabal/testtools/blob/master/testtools/testcase.py#L829 | 20:17 |
| rellerreller_ | So basically all the functional test attributes will not work. | 20:17 |
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| dave-mccowan | without objections, i'll open a bug to convert all things nose to testtools. | 20:18 |
| rellerreller_ | +1 | 20:18 |
| dave-mccowan | #action dave-mccowan open bug to cut off our nose | 20:19 |
| hockeynut | dave-mccowan yes, gives folks who have a strong opinion one side or the other a place to express it | 20:19 |
| dave-mccowan | #topic Merge requirements | 20:19 |
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| rellerreller_ | I added this one | 20:20 |
| rellerreller_ | I was wondering what the status of this is. | 20:20 |
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| diazjf | rellerreller, I'll take on that bug, since I have done pervious things with tox | 20:20 |
| rellerreller_ | Did redrobot talk with other Rackers about this? Can we do only 2 +2s? | 20:20 |
| woodster_ | what is the merge about again? | 20:21 |
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| rellerreller_ | It's not about a specific merge. | 20:21 |
| hockeynut | is it because we basically require three +2s? two for review and 1 for merge? | 20:21 |
| rellerreller_ | redrobot proposed changing policy to only require 2 +2s before workflowing code. | 20:21 |
| woodster_ | oh, the +2/workflow policy got it | 20:21 |
| rellerreller_ | I know that I could use that now. | 20:22 |
| diazjf | I like that idea | 20:22 |
| woodster_ | ...so +2 follwed by a combined +2/workflow, correct? | 20:22 |
| rellerreller_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212579/ has seen no love for a week now :( | 20:22 |
| dave-mccowan | in barbican-main, i rarely have a challenge finding a third approval. it's the first one that's the slowest. :-) | 20:22 |
| alee | yup | 20:22 |
| hockeynut | + oo | 20:23 |
| rellerreller_ | Barbican main is not as bad, but KMIP is hard to find reviewers. | 20:23 |
| alee | rellerreller_, woodster_ the caveat of course being that three +2's are required for security impact fixes as well as those indicated as Barbican Impact | 20:23 |
| diazjf | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196876/ for a while. :-( | 20:23 |
| rellerreller_ | Castellan is also slow for reviews. kfarr has patch that needs love as well. | 20:23 |
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| kfarr | Yes! :( It's a little lonely over on the Castellan review page | 20:24 |
| alee | Barbican Impact means that the reviewers or submitter thinks that the patch merits a thrid reviewer | 20:24 |
| rellerreller_ | alee correct. We had discussed that. | 20:24 |
| alee | rellerreller_, yup just summarizing .. | 20:24 |
| alee | rellerreller_, so do we have a quorum to vote on this? | 20:24 |
| rellerreller_ | alee thanks! | 20:25 |
| alee | woodster_, ? | 20:25 |
| rellerreller_ | I say we vote now while the PTL has no say! | 20:25 |
| kfarr | This is a coup after all | 20:25 |
| woodster_ | I'm fine with a two step for non Barbican Impact CRs (vs the usual 3 step) | 20:25 |
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| alee | I think redrobot is in favor of this .. | 20:25 |
| alee | +2 for me | 20:25 |
| rellerreller_ | alee I agree | 20:25 |
| rellerreller_ | +2 for me | 20:25 |
| diazjf | +1 | 20:26 |
| woodster_ | +2/workflow for me | 20:26 |
| hockeynut | workflow does seem to be more of a formality (even though it shouldn't really be). +2 here | 20:26 |
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| dave-mccowan | #agreed | 20:26 |
| alee | I think we're good then -- is the new policy written up somewhere? | 20:27 |
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| woodster_ | so did we discuss when the Barbican Impact flag should be used? :) | 20:27 |
| dave-mccowan | i've seen other projects with the process details written up in a file in the repo | 20:28 |
| alee | woodster_, I think we can leave that somewhat undefined for now -- and expect folks to use best judgement. If we think something is quite impactful, or quite large, then BarbicanImpact | 20:28 |
| alee | if need be, we can tighten up the rules | 20:29 |
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| rellerreller_ | I think members of core should start to identify and -2 until flag is added or debated on IRC if should be there. | 20:29 |
| rellerreller_ | That way nothing sneaks in | 20:30 |
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| dave-mccowan | or a core could give a +1 instead of a +2 | 20:30 |
| alee | yes - thats maybe a little friendlier | 20:30 |
| alee | rellerreller_, core giving -2 stops a review I think .. | 20:30 |
| rellerreller_ | I learned today that Cinder only requires 1 +2 for small patches, like changes to documentation | 20:30 |
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| alee | rellerreller_, incremental steps :) lete go from 3->2 first :) | 20:31 |
| rellerreller_ | alee that would be a bummer :( | 20:31 |
| rellerreller_ | I'm planting the seed now. | 20:31 |
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| rellerreller_ | We can vote again later on that. | 20:32 |
| dave-mccowan | any last words before moving on? | 20:32 |
| alee | I would request that if a core does suggest Barbican Impact, that they be responsive and provide one of those reviews. | 20:32 |
| alee | that would be polite .. | 20:32 |
| alee | so - only action I think would be for PTL to decide if we need to write this up | 20:33 |
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| alee | (and to do it if so) | 20:33 |
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| dave-mccowan | if we can find a way to speed up the first review, that would help even more i think. maybe each blueprint has a "core sponsor" or each core has an area of ownership that implies an SLA with respect to reviews? | 20:34 |
| dave-mccowan | #action redrobot document new streamlined workflow process | 20:34 |
| * hockeynut is heading over to ACC to pick up kid (mine, not just a random one) | 20:34 | |
| dave-mccowan | #topic Liberty-3 milestone | 20:35 |
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| dave-mccowan | I hoping for the Quotas Blueprint to land this week before liberty 3. i have 4 outstanding CRs with code that makes the BP feature complete. | 20:35 |
| alee | hey - when is liberty-3? | 20:36 |
| dave-mccowan | i appreciate all the reviews to date, and hope to get a few more to land everything before the milestone. | 20:36 |
| dave-mccowan | the web pages say Sept 1 to 3. Not sure what that means. I'd like a date and time. :-) | 20:36 |
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| dave-mccowan | are there any other patches that need to land before the milestone? | 20:37 |
| kfarr | Castellan please :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208569/ | 20:37 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, well - there is a whol subca's feature | 20:37 |
| alee | which I'm working on right now | 20:37 |
| dave-mccowan | chellygel what about the modify container patch? | 20:38 |
| alee | thought I had a little longer .. | 20:38 |
| woodster_ | arunkant's ACL stuff would be good to get traction on | 20:38 |
| arunkant | there are ACL reviews as well.. | 20:38 |
| alee | so yeah, expect a bunch of patches coming tommorow and the next few days | 20:38 |
| woodster_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208343 | 20:38 |
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| woodster_ | ^^^ that's the one that settles on the CLI and python client ACL usage | 20:39 |
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| dave-mccowan | i thought castellan and barbican-client might have a different cycle. does anyone know for sure? | 20:39 |
| woodster_ | arunkant has been diligently tweaking it since the mid cycle | 20:39 |
| alee | woodster_, chellygel - looking to you guys especially for subca reviews | 20:39 |
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| woodster_ | alee: sounds good | 20:40 |
| woodster_ | dave-mccowan: you are probably right about that | 20:40 |
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| dave-mccowan | #action everyone spend some time on reviews early this week. | 20:42 |
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| dave-mccowan | here is the base of the quotas CR chain. first of four. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216253/ | 20:42 |
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| dave-mccowan | #topic /v2/orders API | 20:43 |
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| dave-mccowan | alee, jvrbanac ^^ | 20:43 |
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| alee | so - there was much discussion at the midcycle about creating a v2 for certificates | 20:44 |
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| woodster_ | Yeah, so we went over /v2/certificates at the midcycle. | 20:44 |
| alee | for orders as well -- but the changes for that are much less extensive | 20:45 |
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| alee | woodster_, I thought jvrbanac was tasked with writing up the initial proposal as a spec or otherwise | 20:45 |
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| woodster_ | It seems like the evolution was /v1/orders --> /v2/certificates for certificate orders, but making them optional/feature-flag configurable, and then long term considering separating the certificate part off into its own project | 20:46 |
| alee | (based on what we discussed at the midcycle) | 20:46 |
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| alee | woodster_, well - I'm not so sure about the splitting off into its own project | 20:47 |
| woodster_ | we've been heavily involved in the internal deployment process here, so not much traction on that yet. We should try to get that off the ground soon though. I'll bring it up at our planning sessions tomorrow | 20:47 |
| woodster_ | alee: yeah, this is just something that was discussed as a possibility...i.e. to be discussed at Tokyo for sure | 20:47 |
| woodster_ | alee: /v2 doesn't require or recommend a separate project for sure | 20:48 |
| alee | woodster_, sure - either way, if we want to make traction on this in M, it would be nice at least have a v2 spec to start hammering at by Tokyo. | 20:48 |
| alee | as a basis for discussion | 20:48 |
| alee | woodster_, as well as separately a spec on migration strategy | 20:49 |
| woodster_ | alee: agreed | 20:49 |
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| woodster_ | We also talked about /v2 bringing in synchronous generation of asymmetric and symmetric keys | 20:50 |
| woodster_ | ...so yet another spec perhaps? | 20:50 |
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| alee | woodster_, well - perhaps there are two v2 specs here -- one for certs and one for v2 secret api | 20:51 |
| woodster_ | I recall redrobot wanted /v2/certificates to be backwards compatible to /v1/orders, so that would be part of that /v2/certs spec I think | 20:51 |
| woodster_ | alee: yeah that makes sense | 20:51 |
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| alee | woodster_, sure - so long as its addressed. It might be easier to iterate on as a separate doc though - as I suspect that will be contentious | 20:52 |
| dave-mccowan | the the resource is "certificates", couldn't it be /v1/certificates ? | 20:52 |
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| alee | dave-mccowan, except that we're deprecating parts of v1/orders | 20:53 |
| woodster_ | I think the last issue was with certificate containers...right now certs and intermediates are encrypted like any other secret. It was pointed out that this could be wasteful of crypto resources. So we discussed putting cert/intermediate info on the /v2/certificates resource, or else introducing a flag on secrets to indicate they are not stored encrypted in | 20:53 |
| woodster_ | Barbican | 20:53 |
| alee | dave-mccowan, v2 makes sense in that you must use v2/orders with v2/certificates | 20:53 |
| woodster_ | ...we could just sign them to verify they aren't tampered with | 20:54 |
| alee | woodster_, right -all part of the new API | 20:54 |
| woodster_ | so yeah, quite a bucket list of stuff to bike shed on up thru Tokyo | 20:55 |
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| dave-mccowan | is there an action item(s) with an owner(s) to start writing these draft specs? | 20:56 |
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| woodster_ | dave-mccowan: you can put me down for now | 20:56 |
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| woodster_ | ...unless someone wants to fight me for it! | 20:56 |
| woodster_ | yeah, I didn't think so :) | 20:56 |
| dave-mccowan | #action woodster_ figure out plan for generating draft specs for tokyo hammering | 20:57 |
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| dave-mccowan | #topic any other business or beg for reviews for 3 minutes | 20:57 |
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| rm_work | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217458/ merged so the experimental job is there now for testing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167885/ -- just an FYI, not sure if we will be able to get this merged before Lib3 (don't want to break the gate for people on the home stretch) | 20:57 |
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| kfarr | One last Castellan patch before the next release! woodster_ I updated based on your comments. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208569/ | 20:58 |
| woodster_ | kfarr: I'll take a look | 20:58 |
| kfarr | thank you!! | 20:58 |
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| dave-mccowan | time's up. thanks everyone! | 20:59 |
| dave-mccowan | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 20:59:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-08-31-20.05.html | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-08-31-20.05.txt | 20:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/barbican/2015/barbican.2015-08-31-20.05.log.html | 20:59 |
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