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| sc68cal | hello | 15:04 |
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| dane_leblanc | o/ | 15:04 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 21 15:04:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ipv6)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 15:04 |
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| SridharG | hello | 15:05 |
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| * sc68cal is trying to find the spec for prefix delegation, to see if it got moved to liberty | 15:06 | |
| SridharG | sc68cal: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/ipv6-prefix-delegation,n,z | 15:07 |
| SridharG | link to the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169242/ | 15:07 |
| sc68cal | SridharG: thanks | 15:07 |
| SridharG | sc68cal: np | 15:08 |
| sc68cal | So before I start a topic, does anyone have anything to discuss? | 15:08 |
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| sc68cal | I have something that is more organizational, but can wait until more important things are done | 15:09 |
| SridharG | sc68cal: I want to discuss about two IPv6 related bugs in HA | 15:09 |
| sc68cal | SridharG: be my guest | 15:09 |
| SridharG | sc68cal: thanks. | 15:10 |
| SridharG | When using multiple internal subnets, HA router functionality is broken | 15:10 |
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| SridharG | I've submitted a patch in this regard - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175342/ | 15:10 |
| SridharG | and explained the problem statement as part of commit message. | 15:10 |
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| SridharG | The other issue which I want to highlight is the support for BP:IPv6-router in an HA router. | 15:11 |
| SridharG | The corresponding patch is - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173206/ | 15:11 |
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| SridharG | I would appreciate any review comments for the above two patches. | 15:11 |
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| sc68cal | SridharG: commit message for 175342 is really good - explains the problem quite clearly | 15:12 |
| SridharG | If anyone has any questions related to the patchsets, I'm happy to answer. | 15:12 |
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| sc68cal | SridharG: cool, I'll review both, although I am not a keepalived expert | 15:13 |
| SridharG | thanks sc68cal. | 15:13 |
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| sc68cal | see a couple folks joining | 15:19 |
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| aveiga | o/ | 15:20 |
| aveiga | sorry, was firefighting | 15:20 |
| sc68cal | aveiga: so since you brought up that RFC for doing NAT64 - can we expect a spec in the future? | 15:21 |
| sc68cal | ;) | 15:21 |
| aveiga | I'd love to, if I had dev resources to commit to it | 15:21 |
| aveiga | I'm afraid of proposing something I can't back | 15:21 |
| sc68cal | aveiga: since you're the SME, I think that's the hardest part. Once we have a good idea of what needs to be done, it can serve as a starting point for an eventual implemenation | 15:22 |
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| aveiga | well, alright then | 15:22 |
| aveiga | I'll see if I can get it in by Vancouver :) | 15:22 |
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| sc68cal | I imagine it has telco/nfv relevance | 15:23 |
| sc68cal | even if you do it over in the telo usecase repo you guys have, that's something we can refer to | 15:23 |
| sc68cal | Anything else to discuss? | 15:26 |
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| john-davidge | IPv6 Prefix Delegation patch has been updated to align with the subnet allocation chnages | 15:27 |
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| john-davidge | we're no longer considering it WIP | 15:28 |
| john-davidge | reviews appreciated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158697/ :) | 15:28 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge: excellent! | 15:28 |
| john-davidge | also, we've posted a patch to update the spec to be more relevant to the actual implementation https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175803/ | 15:29 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge: perfect, I think that was a nit of mine when I reviewed the impl. | 15:29 |
| john-davidge | the pluggable framework from Sam Bett's patch will go up as a new patch under the same BP | 15:30 |
| john-davidge | a second BP will be up for review soon to get the discussion rolling on an in-tree DHCPv6 implementation | 15:30 |
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| john-davidge | sc68cal: Hope this addresses your concerns then :) | 15:31 |
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| sc68cal | john-davidge: I'll have to find some more trivial nits to make a big deal out of :) | 15:31 |
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| john-davidge | sc68cal: haha, looking forward to it! | 15:31 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge: :) - I think we're really close. You've done a great job, keep it up! | 15:32 |
| john-davidge | sc68cal: Thanks, baoli deserves at least half of the credit too! | 15:32 |
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| sc68cal | john-davidge: the only thing I can think of is your commit message, it mentions br-ex | 15:34 |
| sc68cal | we may want to expand that a bit to discuss the bridge_mappings config knob | 15:34 |
| sc68cal | or link to some docs | 15:34 |
| john-davidge | ah yes, i suppose that's a bit specific to default devstack | 15:35 |
| john-davidge | we're definitely going to need a doc with config guidelines for a PD server | 15:35 |
| john-davidge | we have a few things in the works there | 15:35 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge: you might want to take a look at the networking guide | 15:36 |
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| sc68cal | if you have an environment or docs already made, we can place it in the networking guide, since we're going to be adding an ipv6 section at some point | 15:36 |
| sc68cal | that'll help on the DocImpact side | 15:36 |
| john-davidge | link? | 15:36 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/networking-guide/source | 15:37 |
| john-davidge | thanks | 15:37 |
| john-davidge | do you see this fitting into a general IPv6 guide, or one specifically for PD? | 15:38 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge: I think for now just go ahead and make a new RST file, for PD specifically | 15:38 |
| sc68cal | we can link to it once we sort out the TOC for the ipv6 section | 15:39 |
| john-davidge | ok great, will do | 15:39 |
| sc68cal | john-davidge: if you get stuck or need help, I'd be happy to assist | 15:40 |
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| john-davidge | sc68cal: Tanks, will be sure to bug you if needed! | 15:41 |
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| sc68cal | Unless there's anything else, we can give everyone back 15 minutes | 15:44 |
| sc68cal | ok everyone, until next week | 15:46 |
| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 15:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 21 15:46:34 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-04-21-15.04.html | 15:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-04-21-15.04.txt | 15:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2015/neutron_ipv6.2015-04-21-15.04.log.html | 15:46 |
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| serg_melikyan | #startmeeting murano | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 21 17:02:19 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is serg_melikyan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: murano)" | 17:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'murano' | 17:02 |
| katyafervent2 | hi | 17:02 |
| henar | hi | 17:02 |
| * serg_melikyan laughing ) | 17:02 | |
| freerunner | hi there! ;) | 17:02 |
| slagun | o/ | 17:02 |
| serg_melikyan | I started meeting in the wrong channel :) Boris was really surprised :) | 17:03 |
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| freerunner | lol =) | 17:03 |
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| slagun | :) | 17:03 |
| FilipBlaha | hi | 17:03 |
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| serg_melikyan | And I was deadly sure that it is my meeting :) He seemed not so sure :) | 17:04 |
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| serg_melikyan | Sorry folks, let's get started | 17:05 |
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| aderyugin | hi^^ | 17:05 |
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| ruhe | o/ | 17:05 |
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| serg_melikyan | Meeting Minutes from previous meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-04-14-17.00.html | 17:06 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: long time no see :) | 17:06 |
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| ruhe | sorry, i had overlapping meetings at this time | 17:06 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: heh, saw few commits from you recently - you are returning to us? :) | 17:07 |
| ruhe | not as a full time engineer, but i hope to contribute something :) | 17:07 |
| serg_melikyan | We have only one action item for today: sergmelikyan, schedule discussion for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/abstract-env-template after Kilo RC1 | 17:07 |
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| serg_melikyan | We released RC1 yesterday, and working our way to RC2, so I guess we can schedule this meeting | 17:08 |
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| serg_melikyan | henar: what do you think about 12:00 UTC on the next Tuesday? | 17:09 |
| henar | ok | 17:10 |
| serg_melikyan | ruhe: happy to hear that - every commit made by you makes me happy :) | 17:10 |
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| serg_melikyan | henar: excellent | 17:10 |
| serg_melikyan | #info meeting about blueprint/abstract-env-template is scheduled for Tuesday, April 28 12:00 UTC in #murano | 17:11 |
| serg_melikyan | I think we are going eventually move to hangout to make this meeting more productive | 17:11 |
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| ruhe | serg_melikyan: please make sure that everyone in community is aware of these meetings and can read through meeting minutes of these meetings | 17:12 |
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| serg_melikyan | Yep | 17:13 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Release Status | 17:13 |
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| katyafervent2 | we need to concentrate on the documentation for Kilo | 17:15 |
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| serg_melikyan | Yesterday we've released RC1, and we are working on releasing python-muranoclient... | 17:16 |
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| katyafervent2 | im going to prepare a list of tasks to improve it | 17:17 |
| kzaitsev | YAY for RC1! | 17:17 |
| serg_melikyan | btw, releasing RC1 means that we have stable/kilo branch and all fixes for kilo should go to master and stable/kilo and merged to stable/kilo first | 17:17 |
| serg_melikyan | katyafervent2: we need critical fixes that we need to fix in kilo, we have freeze here | 17:18 |
| serg_melikyan | but list of tasks is anyway is good | 17:18 |
| ruhe | serg_melikyan: can you please rephrase that sentence about order of commits? If you want to commit something to stable/kilo, you need to merge it to master first. Is that correct? | 17:19 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe: Since stable/kilo is really close to release we need to fix bugs in stable/kilo and cherry-pick them to master (essentially to Liberty) | 17:20 |
| serg_melikyan | I am still sound confusing? | 17:21 |
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| ruhe | so, stable/kilo first, master is second. ok | 17:21 |
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| serg_melikyan | And by the way I will unblock all the commits blocked until Liberty tomorrow | 17:23 |
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| serg_melikyan | Any other questions regarding kilo release? | 17:30 |
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| ruhe | nope | 17:31 |
| serg_melikyan | #topic Open Discussion | 17:31 |
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| serg_melikyan | aderyugin: https://review.openstack.org/175933 Stan proposed alternative way to place DIB elements, what do you think? | 17:32 |
| ruhe | i'd like to implement this spec in L1 https://github.com/openstack/openstack-specs/blob/master/specs/no-downward-sql-migration.rst | 17:32 |
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| ruhe | should i create a spec in murano for it, or just create a blueprint? | 17:32 |
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| henar | sorry I have to go.. I will read the minutes. | 17:33 |
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| FilipBlaha | Hi, regarding to discussion from previous meeting on importing packages and cli tool. did you consider downloading packages from central public repository via cli tool? | 17:34 |
| FilipBlaha | Hi, regarding to discussion from previous meeting on importing packages and cli tool. did you consider downloading packages from central public repository via cli tool? | 17:34 |
| FilipBlaha | Hi, regarding to discussion from previous meeting on importing packages and cli tool. did you consider downloading packages from central public repository via cli tool? | 17:34 |
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| serg_melikyan | ruhe: I think blueprint should be enough, if it would point to right specification. | 17:34 |
| FilipBlaha | e.g. murano package site-import io.murano.apps.WordPress | 17:34 |
| FilipBlaha | e.g. murano package site-import io.murano.apps.WordPress | 17:34 |
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| FilipBlaha | this command would download/clone package form https://github.com/murano-project/murano-app-incubator and import it to your local opanstack with murano | 17:34 |
| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: somehow I have an echo for your messages :) | 17:35 |
| aderyugin | serg_melikyan: I do not fully understand, why we should store elements inside application, but I think all other ok... | 17:35 |
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| FilipBlaha | sorry for that | 17:35 |
| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: we actually already have that kind of feature | 17:35 |
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| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: http://murano-specs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/specs/kilo/muranoclient-marketplace-support.html | 17:35 |
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| serg_melikyan | aderyugin: there is comment in comments on this change with answer to why... | 17:36 |
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| kzaitsev | Filip, what do you mean? We've actually implemented a feature, very similar to the one you describe | 17:37 |
| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: http://murano.readthedocs.org/en/stable-kilo/articles/client.html#importing-packages-in-murano | 17:37 |
| kzaitsev | http://murano.readthedocs.org/en/stable-kilo/articles/repository.html and this =) | 17:37 |
| velovec | serg_melikyan: If I understand correctly, we will upload application with elements to murano? | 17:39 |
| FilipBlaha | ok I will read about it. But looks the same as I meant my fault | 17:39 |
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| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: it does not import from github :( | 17:41 |
| aderyugin | serg_melikyan: so, I think it can be done this way for this moment, but it's better to store elements in separate repository | 17:43 |
| FilipBlaha | why? some technical problem? I mean some public with well defined structure and versioning as central point for murano apps | 17:43 |
| kzaitsev | Oh I get it. You want a bit of different importing mechanism =) | 17:43 |
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| FilipBlaha | something like https://supermarket.chef.io/cookbooks for chef cookbooks | 17:45 |
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| kzaitsev | Filip, I think, that what we've implemented is very similar to https://supermarket.chef.io/cookbooks We do not have a public web repo/endpoint yet, but the idea is very similar. | 17:47 |
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| FilipBlaha | kzaitsev: I think so the only differnce is that you must give url as parameter. My fault that I didn;t know about it | 17:49 |
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| kzaitsev | You mean --murano-repo-url? | 17:49 |
| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: you can pass this param through env variables | 17:49 |
| kzaitsev | I hope it will be replaced with a sensible default in future =) | 17:50 |
| serg_melikyan | FilipBlaha: http://murano.readthedocs.org/en/stable-kilo/articles/repository.html#setting-up-your-own-repository this is how easy is bring such web-server to live | 17:50 |
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| FilipBlaha | yes. I agree there is nothing new in my idea | 17:51 |
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| serg_melikyan | I hope this feature will be adopted very soon by community and we would see public "supermarkets" for murano apps | 17:54 |
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| serg_melikyan | Thank you, folks! See you on the next, so long | 17:58 |
| serg_melikyan | #endmeeting | 17:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 21 17:58:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-04-21-17.02.html | 17:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-04-21-17.02.txt | 17:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/murano/2015/murano.2015-04-21-17.02.log.html | 17:58 |
| ruhe | thanks | 17:58 |
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| slagle | #startmeeting tripleo | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 21 19:01:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slagle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 19:01 |
| slagle | hello everyone | 19:02 |
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| EmilienM | hello | 19:02 |
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| slagle | we'll get started, maybe more folks will trickle in | 19:03 |
| slagle | #topic agenda | 19:03 |
| slagle | * bugs | 19:03 |
| slagle | * reviews | 19:03 |
| slagle | * Projects needing releases | 19:03 |
| slagle | * CI | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:03 | |
| slagle | * Specs | 19:03 |
| slagle | * open discussion | 19:03 |
| slagle | oh, we have an additional agenda item as well | 19:04 |
| slagle | * Ceph blueprint, elements implementation lacking way behind puppet | 19:04 |
| slagle | # topic bugs | 19:05 |
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| slagle | #topic bugs | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:05 | |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 19:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 19:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 19:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 19:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 19:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 19:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-net-config | 19:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 19:05 |
| slagle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 19:05 |
| slagle | i believe all bugs have been triaged last i checked | 19:05 |
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| dasm | beginner's question: tuskar-ui is not the part of tripleo? | 19:07 |
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| slagle | dasm: it's actually part of horizon | 19:08 |
| dasm | slagle: ok, makes sense. thanks | 19:08 |
| slagle | i see only 2 crits in tripleo that seem well handled | 19:08 |
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| slagle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config/+bug/1444999 can be closed | 19:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1444999 in os-collect-config "oslo.config requirement is not following global requirements" [Critical,Triaged] | 19:09 |
| * slagle does so | 19:09 | |
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| slagle | i think that's it for bugs | 19:10 |
| slagle | #topic reviews | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:10 | |
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| slagle | are there any reviews people would like to ask for attention on? | 19:10 |
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| dprince | slagle: as always mine :) | 19:12 |
| slagle | if no one is going to ask... | 19:12 |
| slagle | then i shall prioritize dan's | 19:12 |
| slagle | :) | 19:12 |
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| slagle | #topic releases | 19:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:13 | |
| slagle | i'll do releases this week | 19:13 |
| slagle | #action slagle to do releases | 19:13 |
| slagle | #topic CI | 19:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 19:13 | |
| slagle | our CI has been crusing | 19:14 |
| slagle | dprince: hey, speaking of that puppet-concat regression that hit us last week, do you think we can try moving the puppet CI job to use openstack-puppet-modules? | 19:15 |
| slagle | i know we can try...do you think we should? | 19:15 |
| dprince | slagle: yes, been meaning to get to it | 19:15 |
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| slagle | k | 19:15 |
| slagle | #info puppet CI job should be moved to use openstack-puppet-modules | 19:15 |
| dprince | slagle: oh, wait you mean use a package instead of git? | 19:15 |
| slagle | dprince: yes | 19:16 |
| dprince | slagle: so the package in Delorean will actually just use the latest stuff anyways | 19:16 |
| slagle | i see, so that wouldn't have helped | 19:16 |
| dprince | slagle: what I want is master (trunk) for all the stackforge modules | 19:16 |
| dprince | but stable branches for all the rest (puppet-concat, mysql, rabbit, etc.) | 19:16 |
| slagle | should the delorean packaging just be updated to do that? | 19:17 |
| dprince | slagle: it could as well, yes. | 19:17 |
| slagle | i think that makes sense | 19:17 |
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| dprince | slagle: but we need to stick with Git for puppet modules in the CI at this point because we are starting to use the same job for actually CI'ing the puppet modules too | 19:18 |
| dprince | just this week puppet-keystone is getting some coverage for example (as a test) | 19:18 |
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| slagle | oh nice | 19:18 |
| dprince | I'm actually really excited about this because it means TripleO is helping CI things outside of tripleo | 19:18 |
| slagle | well it would be pretty easy to just swith the puppet-modules element to use the stable branches of the stuff from puppetlabs | 19:19 |
| dprince | we just need to be mindful of that our CI jobs are used this way... | 19:19 |
| slagle | #info TripleoCI being used to CI puppet modules. puppet-keystone initially as a test | 19:19 |
| dprince | sure, we could for example create another CI job that set a DIB_INSTALLTYPE_puppet_modules=package variable | 19:20 |
| slagle | yep | 19:20 |
| dprince | I'm not sure it really is worth it given limited resources and the confusion it might cause if people used it in the wrong place | 19:20 |
| dprince | but we could debate that | 19:20 |
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| slagle | #topic Specs | 19:22 |
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| slagle | #topic Ceph blueprint, elements implementation lacking way behind puppet | 19:23 |
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| slagle | hmm, we arent in gfidente's timezone | 19:23 |
| slagle | there was a thread about this topic as well on openstack-dev | 19:24 |
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| slagle | we need to come up with a plan going forward around the non-puppet heat templates | 19:24 |
| slagle | and the non-puppet elements | 19:26 |
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| slagle | keeping in mind the seed and undercloud are still using the non-puppet elements | 19:26 |
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| slagle | anyway, moving on | 19:26 |
| slagle | #open discussion | 19:26 |
| dasm | what does it mean: plan? migrating non-puppet to puppet? or creating workaround? | 19:26 |
| slagle | dasm: just that no one is maintaining the non-puppet overcloud templates at the moment | 19:27 |
| slagle | and that they're starting to lag as new features get added to the puppet versions | 19:28 |
| dprince | slagle: I think it is fine, if someone is interested in keeping tripleo-image-element features upgraded they can take this on | 19:28 |
| dprince | if not, then what is there keeps working as is | 19:28 |
| dasm | so, if there is no one responsible for non-puppet templates, maybe it should be marked as deprecated? | 19:29 |
| slagle | dasm: yep, that's on the table | 19:30 |
| dasm | can we check somehow, who is using it? maybe no one? | 19:30 |
| dprince | dasm: we may be headed in that direction | 19:30 |
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| dprince | we still rely on many of the elements for features though so I think it is too early to go there | 19:30 |
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| slagle | i think that's about a wrap, if there's nothing else | 19:32 |
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| bnemec | Excellent timing then. :-) | 19:33 |
| slagle | thanks folks! | 19:33 |
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| slagle | bnemec: complete all the things | 19:33 |
| slagle | thanks! | 19:33 |
| slagle | #endmeeting | 19:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 21 19:33:28 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:33 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-04-21-19.01.html | 19:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-04-21-19.01.txt | 19:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2015/tripleo.2015-04-21-19.01.log.html | 19:33 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 21 21:01:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2015-04-21_2100_UTC Our Agenda | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:01 | |
| datsun180b | ed cranford | 21:01 |
| adrian_otto | Adrian Otto | 21:01 |
| muralia | murali allada | 21:01 |
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| mkam | Melissa Kam | 21:01 |
| datsun180b | first | 21:01 |
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| devkulkarni | devdatta kulkarni | 21:01 |
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| dimtruck | dimitry ushakov | 21:01 |
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| james_li | james li | 21:02 |
| adrian_otto | Hello datsun180b, muralia, mkam, devkulkarni, dimtruck, gpilz, and james_li | 21:02 |
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| muralia | hey hey | 21:02 |
| adrian_otto | yes, datsun180b you are definitely first! | 21:02 |
| devkulkarni | n | 21:02 |
| adrian_otto | I was just saying to hub_cap how much I like your sense of humor | 21:02 |
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| datsun180b | too bad you didn't tell him how much you like my commits or specs | 21:03 |
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| adrian_otto | well, in fact I did (no lie)… well I did not mention specs, but I do admit you are good at that. | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's begin | 21:04 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 21:05 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Openstack Summit is coming in May. Would you like to still hold a team meeting on Tuesday May 19th? | 21:05 |
| adrian_otto | if so, we'll want to appoint a chair for that | 21:05 |
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| adrian_otto | as I'm about to update the calendar for the next several weeks | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | we could.. what are other projects doing? | 21:06 |
| gpilz | don't see the point | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | we could just cancel the meeting that week | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | most teams skip that week | 21:06 |
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| datsun180b | yeah we can skip one if folks are going to be convening | 21:06 |
| adrian_otto | at least for IRC proceedings | 21:06 |
| devkulkarni | thought so.. | 21:06 |
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| devkulkarni | lets skip it then | 21:07 |
| datsun180b | we've always got #solum anyway | 21:07 |
| muralia | yes, lets skip it | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | #agreed no meeting on May 19 | 21:07 |
| adrian_otto | any announcements form team members? | 21:07 |
| devkulkarni | The vagrant setup is back working again | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | I have a patch (not merged yet) | 21:08 |
| muralia | woohoo. you mean deployments. | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | which will allow testing of custom language packs + deployment on devstack | 21:08 |
| * adrian_otto high fives devkulkarni | 21:08 | |
| devkulkarni | it still uses the nova-docker driver | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | like before | 21:08 |
| devkulkarni | and glance for storing the built DUs. | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | I will remove -1 workflow from it soon | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | hopefully in the summit folks will be able to try solum | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | that is all as far as announcement on this topic from me | 21:09 |
| devkulkarni | thanks adrian_otto | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | excellent news, thanks devkulkarni | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | ok, we'll wrap up announcements and advance topics unless there are more… | 21:10 |
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| adrian_otto | #topic Tagging or next release | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tagging or next release (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:10 | |
| adrian_otto | are we ready for this? | 21:10 |
| adrian_otto | I did not get a heads-up on this one yet | 21:11 |
| datsun180b | soon! | 21:11 |
| muralia | not yet adrian, we're still make a few changes to the CLI | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | ok, just let me know | 21:11 |
| datsun180b | mkam is constructing a compatibility matrix | 21:11 |
| datsun180b | we'll insert that into the reactor and finally pierce the veil between this world and the Phantom Zone | 21:11 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:12 | |
| datsun180b | and, also, verify that all our use cases are supported by the cli changes | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | ACTION: adrian_otto to spring clean our blueprints | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | ACTION: adrian_otto to spring clean our bug list | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | status of both of these is pending, sorry. | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | I will carry them forward and work on them more. | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | #action drian_otto to spring clean our blueprints | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | #undo | 21:12 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0xad10850> | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to spring clean our blueprints | 21:12 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian_otto to spring clean our bug list | 21:13 |
| adrian_otto | #topic BP/Task Review | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BP/Task Review (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 21:13 | |
| adrian_otto | any work items that could use team discussion today? | 21:13 |
| datsun180b | someone needs to tell the bot to define __repr__ for ircmeeting.items.Action | 21:13 |
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| devkulkarni | adrian_otto: there was one item.. | 21:14 |
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| adrian_otto | devkulkarni: cool | 21:14 |
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| devkulkarni | so currently we support private git repositories (clone, triggering builds, and posting back status urls). | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | do you (or others) know if folks tend to use https/git protocol for interacting with private repositories? | 21:15 |
| devkulkarni | the reason I ask is — our current implementation is based on the assumption that private git repositories will be used with the git protocol | 21:16 |
| adrian_otto | yes, people certainly do | 21:17 |
| devkulkarni | okay.. so is it alright for us to make this assumption (at least for now?) | 21:17 |
| adrian_otto | there are really two ways to do it… with a git client, or directly on a web app like Github using on-line editors and such… which almost nobody does. | 21:18 |
| adrian_otto | what other ways might they use? | 21:18 |
| datsun180b | i want to change over to prefer oauth while still supporting deploy keys if they're available, i'm not a fan of the mandatory keypair generation we do in plan-create | 21:18 |
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| adrian_otto | that would be an improvement, I think | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: are you saying we should only support oauth + https | 21:19 |
| devkulkarni | or both (oauth and deploy_keys)? | 21:20 |
| adrian_otto | what's the drawback of allowing both? | 21:20 |
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| adrian_otto | implementation complexity? | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | good question adrian_otto | 21:20 |
| datsun180b | i said prefer | 21:20 |
| devkulkarni | right.. code complexity | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | but not supporting one or the either is problematic | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | also | 21:21 |
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| datsun180b | and complexity is my reason, too. git clone https://(oauth ? "oauth:@" : )github.com/blargle | 21:21 |
| devkulkarni | as then we are going to loose out on some of the usecases | 21:22 |
| datsun180b | versus ssh-agent-wrapped cloning | 21:22 |
| adrian_otto | which yo do with a deploy key | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | datsun180b: agreed about this point.. but how do you support the use-case of having unittest scripts | 21:22 |
| devkulkarni | that contain embedded in them git@ based urls? | 21:23 |
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| datsun180b | education! documentation! threat of severe beatings! | 21:23 |
| datsun180b | and of course, still supporting both methods | 21:23 |
| muralia | devkulkarni, arnt we planning on addressing private https git urls by translating them to git@ | 21:24 |
| muralia | im adding code to the CLI to do that right now | 21:24 |
| datsun180b | we don't need to do that | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | my preference is to attempt to support both | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | and if the implementation or support/maintenance of that code is judged to be burdensome, then revisit it | 21:24 |
| adrian_otto | I'd hate to prematurely optimize it | 21:25 |
| adrian_otto | thoughts? | 21:25 |
| gpilz | +1 | 21:25 |
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| datsun180b | my fan is desperately trying to cool my computer while i figure out the middle path | 21:26 |
| devkulkarni | I am okay with this as well.. for the reason that we don't want to regress on some of the usecases that we already support by removing support for deploy_keys | 21:26 |
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| devkulkarni | so +1 | 21:27 |
| datsun180b | neat | 21:27 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, let's come back to it if this turns out to be a PITA | 21:27 |
| devkulkarni | sounds good | 21:27 |
| muralia | +1 | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | ok, any other work items to discuss? | 21:28 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 21:28 |
| devkulkarni | just want to bring attention to the spec on app resource | 21:28 |
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| adrian_otto | aah, ok | 21:29 |
| devkulkarni | gpilz: you might want to check it out | 21:29 |
| gpilz | will do | 21:29 |
| devkulkarni | thanks gpilz | 21:29 |
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| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/173564 App resource | 21:29 |
| datsun180b | i've got to address some comments yet, so there'll be a new version of that soon enough | 21:30 |
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| datsun180b | i think the registration history may be a reach, if the actions instead store their what-was-cloned-or-deployed data | 21:30 |
| datsun180b | so i can flatten app a bit and remove a whole table and confusing resource | 21:31 |
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| devkulkarni | +1 datsun180b | 21:31 |
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| muralia | We need to think about replacing existing resources. maybe we can reuse some of them instead of creating new resources. | 21:32 |
| datsun180b | but my fiddle and my matches :c | 21:33 |
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| adrian_otto | muralia: fair suggestion. Which approach might get us to a faster result? | 21:34 |
| muralia | maybe continue using assembly instead of action. | 21:34 |
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| adrian_otto | to be called action and back ended by assembly? | 21:35 |
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| adrian_otto | that would probably be confusing to maintain, right? | 21:35 |
| muralia | no, just use the same name, just change the schema. we dont expose assembly resource to the user anyway. its just an internal resource | 21:36 |
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| datsun180b | i think the changes i'm proposing are dramatic enough to warrant a different resource and name from the way they're handled | 21:36 |
| datsun180b | we do actually expose assembly to users though, and i want to put a stop to that | 21:36 |
| adrian_otto | there is no harm in exposing that in the CAMP 1.1 API code | 21:37 |
| muralia | datsun180, wont we expose 'app' to the user? not assembly | 21:37 |
| datsun180b | right, and an app isn't just an assembly | 21:37 |
| datsun180b | or a set of them for that matter | 21:38 |
| muralia | ok. I'll add comments to the doc and we can discuss there. i need to re-read it as well | 21:38 |
| datsun180b | cool | 21:38 |
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| adrian_otto | should we wrap up a bit early today? | 21:42 |
| muralia | yup | 21:42 |
| devkulkarni | sounds good | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | cool | 21:42 |
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| adrian_otto | our next meeting is Tuesday 2015-04-28 at 2100 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:42 |
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| adrian_otto | see you all then! | 21:42 |
| datsun180b | all right | 21:42 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 21:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 21 21:43:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-04-21-21.01.html | 21:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-04-21-21.01.txt | 21:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2015/solum_team_meeting.2015-04-21-21.01.log.html | 21:43 |
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| adrian_otto | #startmeeting containers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 21 22:00:45 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adrian_otto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'containers' | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2015-04-21_2200_UTC Our Agenda | 22:00 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Roll Call | 22:00 |
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| adrian_otto | Adrian otto | 22:01 |
| jjlehr | Janek Lehr | 22:01 |
| rpothier | Rob Pothier | 22:01 |
| Tango | Ton Ngo | 22:01 |
| madhuri____ | Madhuri Kumari | 22:01 |
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| fangfenghua | Da | 22:01 |
| sdake | o/ | 22:01 |
| fangfenghua | Dance ghoul | 22:01 |
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| vahidh | Vahid Hashemian | 22:01 |
| joffter | Jennifer Carlucci | 22:01 |
| apmelton | Andrew Melton | 22:01 |
| suro-patz | suro-patz | 22:01 |
| thomasem | Thomas Maddox | 22:01 |
| sdake | wow we got an army of people present :) | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | hello jjlehr, rpothier, Tango, madhuri____, fangfenghua, sdake, vahidh, apmelton, suro-patz, and thomasem | 22:02 |
| fangfenghua | Fangfenhua | 22:02 |
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| adrian_otto | that's a quorum. | 22:02 |
| adrian_otto | juggler: you had a topic to add? | 22:02 |
| juggler | o/ | 22:02 |
| juggler | topic sent | 22:02 |
| juggler | :) | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | oh, I see that in PRVMSG | 22:03 |
| adrian_otto | you will have first crack in Open Discussion for that | 22:03 |
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| adrian_otto | we should have time | 22:03 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, advancing topics | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Announcements | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) Our IRC Meeting will be skipped on 2015-05-19 because we will be at the Vancouver Design Summit | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | my apologies to those of you not attending the summit | 22:04 |
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| adrian_otto | so be sure to raise your topics in the previous week, or using the ML during that time. | 22:04 |
| adrian_otto | 2) I am planning to tag a release of Magnum and python-magnumclient on Saturday 2015-04-25. | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | is there any reason to change this plan? | 22:05 |
| sdake | magnumclient | 22:05 |
| sdake | tags x.y.z | 22:05 |
| sdake | not 2015.1.0 | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | that's right | 22:05 |
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| adrian_otto | it's 0.1.0 now | 22:05 |
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| sdake | right | 22:05 |
| adrian_otto | to be compatible with pypi | 22:05 |
| sdake | ok, just informing | 22:05 |
| sdake | wasn't sure if you knew or not | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | yes, thanks! | 22:06 |
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| sdake | In the futue I expect we won't need to lockstep release our client | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | we do have new features landing that have support in both | 22:06 |
| adrian_otto | but if we don't have new client/server paired features then we might only release one or the other, correct. | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | any other comments on release plans? | 22:07 |
| adrian_otto | 3) I am working with the author of https://pypi.python.org/pypi/magnum to see if we can arrange to use that namespace. | 22:07 |
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| adrian_otto | otherwise we will use something like https://pypi.python.org/pypi/magnum | 22:07 |
| juggler | sounds good | 22:08 |
| sdake | did you run that by 3openstack-infra? | 22:08 |
| sdake | the second option | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | if needed, I will | 22:08 |
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| adrian_otto | first things first. :-) | 22:08 |
| sdake | I would like if you would please :) | 22:08 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: were those supposed to be two different links? | 22:08 |
| sdake | yes jus tthinking ahead | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | my paste goofed | 22:08 |
| adrian_otto | openstack-magnum would be the alternative fallback approach | 22:09 |
| apmelton | gotcha | 22:09 |
| sdake | i on't know if openstack-infra would like that or not adrian_otto | 22:09 |
| sdake | please confirm - had irc discussion last week on this topic | 22:09 |
| sdake | and borught that up, seemed to be contentious | 22:09 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, I want to cross that bridge when we come to it, especially if it will be controversial | 22:10 |
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| sdake | cool anything permanent wrt namespcces - is well permanent :) | 22:10 |
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| sdake | so thats the controversy I think | 22:10 |
| sdake | anyway we can move on :) | 22:10 |
| adrian_otto | 4) PTL Elections closed, I will serve as your PTL for the Liberty release. | 22:10 |
| juggler | +1 | 22:11 |
| apmelton | congrats! | 22:11 |
| mfalatic | \o/ | 22:11 |
| madhuri____ | congrats | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | Thanks everyone | 22:11 |
| suro-patz | +1 | 22:11 |
| Tango | +1 | 22:11 |
| juggler | wtg adrian | 22:11 |
| vahidh | +1 | 22:11 |
| sdake | grats bro :) | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | but I did not win an election because I was unopposed | 22:11 |
| joffter | congratulations! | 22:11 |
| sdake | irrelevant | 22:11 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I appreciate your congratulations! | 22:12 |
| juggler | agreed, sdake | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | any other announcements from team members? | 22:12 |
| sdake | adrian_otto but I used that line on kolla too :) | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | <3 | 22:12 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's advance to action items | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Review Action Items | 22:13 |
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| adrian_otto | 1) adrian_otto to poll participants for a discussion with k8s devs about external-lb feature | 22:13 |
| adrian_otto | completed. I can pause a moment and see what responses came back | 22:13 |
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| adrian_otto | there were no responses. I'll need to follow up with them | 22:14 |
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| Tango | It appears that the current code use V1 of LBaaS | 22:14 |
| Tango | We can ask when they plan to move to V2 | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | right, we had some good news on that BP | 22:15 |
| sdake | which version is in kilo? | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | #action adrian otto to regroup with k8s devs to select a time to discuss external-lb | 22:15 |
| Tango | I think V2 | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | v1 | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | uuuh | 22:15 |
| Tango | oh ok | 22:15 |
| adrian_otto | actually that may be moving more quickly than I have been tracking it | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | so ignore my comment | 22:16 |
| sdake | can we gt a na ction to confirm | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | who would like to take that one? | 22:16 |
| Tango | I can do that | 22:16 |
| sdake | third party confirmation | 22:16 |
| adrian_otto | #action Tango to confirm what version of LBaaS API is in Kilo, and what versions k8s supports | 22:17 |
| sdake | actually i guess it doesn't matter | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | that the right action? | 22:17 |
| sdake | wfm | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | kk | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Blueprint/Task Review | 22:17 |
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| adrian_otto | so this one is a cluster of a few links | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | 1) Following two patches should be in a Liberty branch, or after a Kilo branch is made. | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/174209 Update rc support a manifest change | 22:17 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/174208 Update service support a manifest change | 22:18 |
| adrian_otto | so the question is where and when to merge those | 22:18 |
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| adrian_otto | sdake, you have remarks on this? | 22:18 |
| sdake | yes | 22:18 |
| sdake | branch kilo on 4/25 | 22:18 |
| sdake | from master | 22:18 |
| sdake | ping ttx for details on how to do this (I honestly don't know how its done) | 22:19 |
| sdake | then all new changes go into master | 22:19 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I think I know where those notes are | 22:19 |
| sdake | master becomes new liberty | 22:19 |
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| sdake | we backport to kilo | 22:19 |
| sdake | or submit changes to kilo | 22:19 |
| sdake | for the rc series | 22:19 |
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| sdake | preferrably backport | 22:19 |
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| sdake | tag 2014.1.0.rc1 | 22:20 |
| sdake | or whatever its called | 22:20 |
| sdake | and each rc gets a new tag on the branch | 22:20 |
| sdake | how to actually do all the tagging with gerrit - not sure | 22:20 |
| sdake | i can find out if you like | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | yep, that makes sense | 22:20 |
| adrian_otto | I got the tagging stuff down | 22:20 |
| sdake | but i am super overloaded atm | 22:20 |
| sdake | cool | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | I think we might be missing the tarball job though | 22:21 |
| sdake | its definatey in there | 22:21 |
| sdake | whether it works or not is a different story | 22:21 |
| adrian_otto | ok, good | 22:21 |
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| sdake | we can spin rcs as needed for the tarball job | 22:21 |
| sdake | ttx can hep here, he knows what to do | 22:21 |
| sdake | just have to ask nicelly :) | 22:22 |
| sdake | (re tarblal job) | 22:22 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, got it. | 22:22 |
| sdake | i can't actually commit for him tho | 22:22 |
| sdake | so there ya go :) | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | is Lan Qi Song present with us today? | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | was not in the roll call | 22:22 |
| adrian_otto | so sdake, on the subject of the -2 | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | will you be arond on 4/25 to lift that? | 22:23 |
| sdake | ack | 22:23 |
| sdake | ping me on irc | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | ok, tx. | 22:23 |
| sdake | and i'll remove immediately | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | cool. | 22:23 |
| sdake | or i can remove now and yu can apply -2 | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | that's what I was going to suggest. | 22:23 |
| adrian_otto | let's do that now while we are thinking of it | 22:24 |
| sdake | after meeting i'll remove aftery ou add | 22:24 |
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| sdake | or we can do now | 22:24 |
| sdake | have links? | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | will do now | 22:24 |
| sdake | i need to remove my -2 i think | 22:24 |
| sdake | i don't think you can | 22:24 |
| adrian_otto | done | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | mine are on, so remove yours at your leisure. | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | next work item disucssion | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | 2) Coordinate synchronized documentation change with this patch: | 22:25 |
| sdake | got it | 22:25 |
| sdake | its done | 22:25 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/173763 Update Kubernetes version for supporting v1beta3. | 22:25 |
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| adrian_otto | so this sounds like the patch may be overtaken by events | 22:26 |
| madhuri____ | No response from them yet | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | and may not be needed | 22:26 |
| adrian_otto | but I was reluctant to vote on this without further clarity | 22:26 |
| sdake | events? | 22:26 |
| madhuri____ | Yes may be not now | 22:26 |
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| adrian_otto | sdake: need may be obviated by a new default | 22:26 |
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| sdake | we can sync up after meeting | 22:27 |
| sdake | i'm out of the loop on that discussion | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | so my question is what harm would come from merging this? | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | even if the default has changed? | 22:27 |
| madhuri____ | The Kubernetes cluster has 0.11.0 v | 22:27 |
| adrian_otto | as long as that URI remains working in k8s, then we can use that, right? | 22:27 |
| sdake | version incompatible | 22:27 |
| sdake | but we got rid of kubernetes kube calls right | 22:28 |
| madhuri____ | But after ths merge, the kubectl will be 0.15.0 release | 22:28 |
| sdake | via cli? | 22:28 |
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| adrian_otto | this is about transitioning from cli to API calls | 22:28 |
| sdake | right | 22:28 |
| madhuri____ | Yes after we merge our API code | 22:28 |
| sdake | madhuri can you confirm with the api code merge, cli will no longer be used? | 22:28 |
| madhuri____ | In that case we don't need kubectl | 22:28 |
| madhuri____ | We can remove it from dev guide | 22:28 |
| adrian_otto | madhuri____: in that case I'd like to see a quickstart update in the patch too | 22:29 |
| madhuri____ | Ok sure | 22:29 |
| sdake | can you confirm this will land by 4/25 madhuri? | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | exactly, so that happens all at once | 22:29 |
| madhuri____ | I will mail on the ml the issues currently with the patch. | 22:29 |
| adrian_otto | ok, cool. Thanks madhuri____ | 22:29 |
| sdake | madhuri perfect | 22:29 |
| sdake | can we get an action | 22:30 |
| madhuri____ | I will be submitting the patch today | 22:30 |
| sdake | just for followup | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | #madhuri____ to begin a ML thread to explain approach for migration off of kubectl onto the k8s API. See: https://review.openstack.org/173763 | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | #undo | 22:30 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0xad102d0> | 22:30 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/173763 Update Kubernetes version for supporting v1beta3. | 22:31 |
| madhuri____ | To track issues merging v1beta3 in k8s 0.11.0 | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | #action madhuri____ to begin a ML thread to track issues merging b1beta3 in k8s 0.11.0. See: https://review.openstack.org/173763 | 22:31 |
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| madhuri____ | This need to be an action item | 22:31 |
| sdake | does ## name act as #action? | 22:31 |
| adrian_otto | is that action fair? | 22:31 |
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| madhuri____ | The review link should change | 22:32 |
| adrian_otto | that's fine. It's only informative. | 22:32 |
| madhuri____ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170414/ adrian_otto | 22:32 |
| madhuri____ | This one | 22:33 |
| sdake | does #madhuri set an action? | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | sdake: no, that was an error | 22:33 |
| juggler | he undid that | 22:33 |
| adrian_otto | we did record the action, so I'm going to advance topics unless there is more to cover on this now. | 22:33 |
| sdake | then redid it jugler | 22:33 |
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| juggler | hmm I only see one #madhuri* | 22:34 |
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| adrian_otto | we got it. | 22:34 |
| sdake | if peopel are onfued i guess they can rea dthe ogs ) | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | 3) Discuss where the fix for this should live: | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1446372 | 22:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446372 in Magnum "Bays spawned from devstack dont have external network access" [Undecided,New] | 22:34 |
| adrian_otto | this one was a question raised by apmelton | 22:34 |
| sdake | we dcided on irc dev docks | 22:35 |
| apmelton | so sdake had an interesting take on this | 22:35 |
| sdake | docker/docs:) | 22:35 |
| apmelton | basically we'll add some documentation that demonstrates the usage of local.sh to run the command | 22:35 |
| adrian_otto | what about making the masqyerade a devstack module | 22:36 |
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| adrian_otto | so you decide if you want it using a configuration directive in localrc or whatever | 22:36 |
| sdake | localrc can haee additional configuraiton so I don' think thatwill work | 22:37 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: I think local.sh is going to be fairly straight forward | 22:37 |
| adrian_otto | I suppose magnum users are already following a set of directions | 22:37 |
| adrian_otto | so we could just have this as one of the steps | 22:37 |
| sdake | yup that is the proposal | 22:38 |
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| adrian_otto | I can live with that | 22:38 |
| juggler | step in the quickstar or the contributing page steps? | 22:38 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: your perspective? | 22:38 |
| juggler | quickstart, correction | 22:38 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, any opposing views to consider? | 22:39 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: I think using local.sh is no more complex than what we already instruct people to do with local.conf | 22:39 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I'm convinced | 22:39 |
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| sdake | 3 +2s looks like we hae winne:) | 22:39 |
| apmelton | juggler: I think I'll be in the quickstart | 22:39 |
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| juggler | cool | 22:40 |
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| apmelton | rather, I think it makes the most sense there | 22:40 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, next work item | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | 4) Discuss what to do about replacePod API | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://review.openstack.org/175784 Remove duplicate replacePod API | 22:40 |
| adrian_otto | this patch looked to me like it was turning some functions into a docstring | 22:41 |
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| adrian_otto | so I was going to leave remarks on that basis, but then I started thinking about the root cause for this | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | and that needs to be clearly expressed in a bug | 22:41 |
| madhuri____ | I had discussed about this with google guy | 22:41 |
| adrian_otto | we have this: | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1446529 | 22:42 |
| madhuri____ | and he said this ia an issue in their swagger-spec | 22:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1446529 in Magnum "pod-update fail with 404 status for an existing pod" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Madhuri Kumari (madhuri-rai07) | 22:42 |
| sdake | madhuriwhichgoooleguy | 22:42 |
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| madhuri____ | Nikhil Jindal | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | so this code came from swagger? | 22:42 |
| madhuri____ | He is working on swagger-spec | 22:42 |
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| madhuri____ | Yes swagger-spec from k8s | 22:42 |
| adrian_otto | so to understand this, k8s is busted, right? | 22:43 |
| adrian_otto | and we want a magnum workaround for that? | 22:43 |
| madhuri____ | Once it gets fixed upstream we can remove this fix | 22:43 |
| sdake | wfm | 22:44 |
| madhuri____ | Yes adrian_otto | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | ok, but let's not do this as a docstring | 22:44 |
| madhuri____ | Ok I will remove it then | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | is there a cleaner way? | 22:44 |
| sdake | thi is what stable/kilo exisssts or | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | I'm fine just commenting that section of code if we expect to be putting it back rather soon | 22:44 |
| madhuri____ | To remove the method is a cleaner way | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | if not, record the removed code in a tech-debt bug ticket | 22:44 |
| adrian_otto | and let's just remove that code for now | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | we can easily put it back once the upstream fix lands | 22:45 |
| madhuri____ | I will create a bug ticket for it | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | thanks. | 22:45 |
| sdake | madhuri++ | 22:45 |
| madhuri____ | Thanks | 22:45 |
| adrian_otto | so the https://review.openstack.org/175784 patch can be revised to just be a full removal | 22:45 |
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| madhuri____ | Yes | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | and let's update the commit message to explain where we are archiving this as tech debt to repay when upstream is working again. | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | everyone okay with this? | 22:46 |
| madhuri____ | Ok sure | 22:46 |
| juggler | ok here | 22:46 |
| sdake | +1 | 22:46 |
| fangfenghua | +1 | 22:46 |
| madhuri____ | I am ok with this :) | 22:46 |
| adrian_otto | ok, I am going to open us for Open Discussion, and let juggler have the first go. | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | #topic Open Discussion | 22:47 |
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| juggler | offhand, are ppl here primarily testing magnum on baremetal systems? | 22:47 |
| juggler | i'm wondering if it's suitable to recommend on one of the contributing pages that using a vm (e.g. a virtualbox on Windows, for example) is not recommended | 22:47 |
| juggler | thoughts/input? | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | for trying out magnum it really should not matter | 22:47 |
| adrian_otto | just wherever you can succesfully run devstack, right? | 22:48 |
| apmelton | so I guess my question is, has anyone actually succesfully run magnum in a vm | 22:48 |
| sdake | diagree with vm approach - will give people negative view of perforance | 22:48 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: what is your definition of 'succesfully run devstack'? | 22:48 |
| adrian_otto | apmelton: to have a working openstack cloud, started by the stack.sh script | 22:49 |
| juggler | yeah, i'm trying to get devstack to run in a vm and still having issues. wondering if it's even possible or has been attempted | 22:49 |
| sdake | dev-qucikstartshoud e rnnable in 20 minute | 22:49 |
| sdake | s | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | in whatever environment you choose to run it in | 22:49 |
| juggler | at least with the current devstack+magnum | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | performance expectations should be shaped with docs | 22:49 |
| mfalatic | minimum required hardware should be as well. | 22:49 |
| adrian_otto | but devstack exists for a reason, and it's most commonly deployed in VM's for convenience. | 22:50 |
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| mfalatic | (If you're going to try this in Devstack, that is) | 22:50 |
| fangfenghua | I deploy success in cm | 22:50 |
| fangfenghua | Vm | 22:50 |
| adrian_otto | is the fact that devstack takes a long time to run in a VM the source of your concern, sdake ? | 22:50 |
| suro-patz | I learned from couple of iteration that the VM should at least have 16G mem to host devstack for magnum | 22:50 |
| sdake | in vms will take hours to deploy iirc | 22:50 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: but how many people doing that are doing anything more than running cirros | 22:50 |
| sdake | adrian_otto ye | 22:50 |
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| apmelton | cirros instances* | 22:51 |
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| sdake | cirsso si *not* on eof our os choices | 22:51 |
| thomasem | sdake, are you typing with chop sticks? | 22:52 |
| sdake | been up for two days | 22:52 |
| sdake | need to hit the rack | 22:52 |
| thomasem | :( aww | 22:52 |
| adrian_otto | we should recommend the ideal hardware match, and disclaim YMMV if you choose an alternate approach that is a lower performance option. | 22:52 |
| apmelton | sdake: what I'm asking is, how many people are actually consuming the products of the services in devstack rather than just the services | 22:52 |
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| adrian_otto | if people ignore that and deploy on VMs, and don't like the performance, that's their choice, right? | 22:52 |
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| juggler | and in the longterm, will we be supporting folks on VMs is well is also a potential consideration | 22:52 |
| juggler | or something like that | 22:53 |
| sdake | i think running magnum quickstart in vms will take hors | 22:53 |
| adrian_otto | on crummy laptops maybe | 22:53 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: I think if we tell people they can run magnum+devstack in vms we're going to constantly be dealing with people who can't get it to work | 22:53 |
| juggler | I resemble that remark adrian_otto! :) | 22:53 |
| suro-patz | apmelton: +1 | 22:53 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: I've tried magnum+devstack on our perf1-16G flavor | 22:53 |
| apmelton | even that didn't work | 22:53 |
| sdake | apmelton +1 | 22:54 |
| mfalatic | How much disk/memory/cpu are people using where they actually get it to work in Devstack? | 22:54 |
| juggler | mfalatic in a vm or baremetal or both? | 22:54 |
| mfalatic | Hmm, either. | 22:54 |
| adrian_otto | another approach is to have a recommended setup for cloud operators (how to wire this to your cloud) | 22:54 |
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| adrian_otto | and a how to develop on magnum | 22:54 |
| apmelton | mfalatic: https://gist.github.com/ramielrowe/8a5392d707c5fe217e49 | 22:54 |
| apmelton | that's with a 3 node cluster | 22:54 |
| apmelton | 3 node bay* | 22:54 |
| adrian_otto | we have two documents for this now | 22:54 |
| suro-patz | mfaltic: I found out that on VM it needs at least 16G to bring up all the instances - but I ran into the networking issue | 22:54 |
| mfalatic | oic ok. | 22:55 |
| thomasem | wow | 22:55 |
| mfalatic | Will just upgrade the memory in my MacBoo---- oh. | 22:55 |
| sdake | ?? | 22:55 |
| thomasem | Just the amount of mem used | 22:55 |
| adrian_otto | wait, devstack is taking 16GB now? | 22:55 |
| juggler | ouch | 22:56 |
| thomasem | Is that with a bunch of other peripheral services? | 22:56 |
| thomasem | that don't need to be on? | 22:56 |
| suro-patz | adrian_otto: when I ran devstack on a 8G flavor, it was not able to bring up all the three instances together due to memory issue | 22:56 |
| adrian_otto | three instances of what? | 22:57 |
| suro-patz | three instance of nested VM to form the cluster | 22:57 |
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| fangfenghua | Bay node | 22:57 |
| fangfenghua | I guess | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | so you are talkigna bout starting the bay | 22:57 |
| adrian_otto | ok, so maybe we need a smaller flavor option for running the k8s cluster? | 22:57 |
| juggler | we may be getting close to moving the discussion, btw | 22:57 |
| apmelton | 2 minutes left | 22:58 |
| sdake | bug triage needs dsicussion | 22:58 |
| juggler | correct | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | ok, let's wrap up here. juggler, please take this to the ML | 22:58 |
| adrian_otto | let's get a well reasoned soltuion | 22:58 |
| apmelton | adrian_otto: we may also want to see how the heat developers handle this | 22:59 |
| sdake | develoeprs (ormain constitutient atm) is focused around devstack on bare metal | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | our next meeting is Tuesday 2015-04-28 at 1600 UTC. | 22:59 |
| apmelton | I'm sure they have to have functioning instances in their development environments | 22:59 |
| sdake | lets go to #openstack-containers for overlflow lase | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | thanks everyone for attending. See you all next week. | 22:59 |
| apmelton | o/ | 22:59 |
| adrian_otto | #endmeeting | 22:59 |
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| sdake | o/ | 22:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 21 22:59:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-04-21-22.00.html | 22:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-04-21-22.00.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/containers/2015/containers.2015-04-21-22.00.log.html | 23:00 |
| thomasem | cheers! | 23:00 |
| juggler | see you on the other side.. | 23:00 |
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