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| tchaypo | almost tripleo time! | 06:54 |
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| tchaypo | so excitement! | 06:55 |
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| lxsli | o/ | 06:56 |
| jprovazn | hi | 06:57 |
| StevenK | Hai | 06:57 |
| d0ugal | o/ | 06:57 |
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| tchaypo | startmeeting tripleo | 07:00 |
| tchaypo | gosh darn it | 07:00 |
| tchaypo | #startmeeting tripleo | 07:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 20 07:00:54 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tchaypo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 07:00 |
| tchaypo | Greetings! | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #topic agenda | 07:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:01 | |
| tchaypo | * bugs | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | * reviews | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | * Projects needing releases | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | * CD Cloud status | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | * CI | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | * Tuskar | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | * Specs | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | * open discussion | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | Remember that anyone can use the link and info commands, not just the moderator - if you have something worth noting in the meeting minutes feel free to tag it | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #topic bugs | 07:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:01 | |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-cloud-config | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tuskarclient | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | tripleo has been pretty red the last few weeks | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | this week we're down to only 4 criticals, all assigned | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | GheRivero: Are you around to talk about 1316985 ? | 07:03 |
| GheRivero | hi there | 07:03 |
| GheRivero | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104115/ | 07:03 |
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| GheRivero | just waiting for it to land | 07:03 |
| tchaypo | #info GheRivero has https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104115/ waiting to land to solve https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1316985 | 07:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1316985 in tripleo "set -eu may spuriously break dkms module" [Critical,In progress] | 07:04 |
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| tchaypo | gfidente and rpodoliaka don't seem to be around | 07:04 |
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| tchaypo | #info Looks like 248 total open bugs for tripleo - I wonder how that changes over time | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | I don't know michael kerrin's nick so I'm not sure if he's around | 07:06 |
| tchaypo | the only other critical on the other projects that I'm seeing is https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/1357525 - but that's fix-committed | 07:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1357525 in tuskar "tuskar-api fails with "no such option: config_file"" [Critical,Fix committed] | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | So unless anyone else has something to add I'm going to move on | 07:07 |
| lxsli | MK's not on hipchat | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | thanks lxsli | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | #topic reviews | 07:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:08 | |
| tchaypo | #info There's a new dashboard linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO#Review_team - look for "TripleO Inbox Dashboard" | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-openreviews.html | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-30.txt | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | #link http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/tripleo-reviewers-90.txt | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | Stats since the last revision without -1 or -2 : | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | Average wait time: 11 days, 20 hours, 50 minutes | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | 1st quartile wait time: 3 days, 15 hours, 20 minutes | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | Median wait time: 7 days, 9 hours, 26 minutes | 07:09 |
| tchaypo | 3rd quartile wait time: 20 days, 4 hours, 15 minutes | 07:09 |
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| lsmola2 | o/ | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | lo lsmola2 | 07:10 |
| tchaypo | average and median are about the same as last week, 1st and 3rd quartiles are about 2 days higher each. | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | Last week there was a bunch of talk that maybe we're measuring the wrong thing; I kicked off a mailing list thread but we haven't had much there | 07:11 |
| tchaypo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042960.html | 07:12 |
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| tchaypo | Does anyone have any reviews they'd like to talk about? | 07:15 |
| d0ugal | Reviews to help this land would be awesome :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104548/ | 07:15 |
| lxsli | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86316/ | 07:15 |
| tchaypo | Could you mention them with the info or link hashtags so they hit the meeting log? | 07:16 |
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| lxsli | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86316 | 07:16 |
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| lxsli | I've had a lot of feedback that it should do what's necessary to obtain the software it's meant to install | 07:16 |
| StevenK | #link https://review.openstack.org/108689 | 07:16 |
| d0ugal | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104548/ | 07:17 |
| lxsli | Whereas AFAIC it's the job of tripleo-incubator (or an operator's replacement thereof) to provide appropriate package repos | 07:17 |
| StevenK | lxsli: What? It so isn't | 07:17 |
| lxsli | I'd appreciate your illustrious opinions :) | 07:17 |
| lxsli | StevenK: to which statement? | 07:18 |
| * tchaypo gets popcorn | 07:18 | |
| StevenK | "to provide appropriate package repositories" | 07:18 |
| StevenK | It is not required at all. It's highly recommended, but by default -incubator and elements will happy reach out to the Internet to pull things down | 07:18 |
| lxsli | WHat I mean is, the dpkg + apt-sources elements can do this, so if t-i wants to include elasticsearch it can configure those elements to provide a repo | 07:19 |
| lxsli | Yeah that didn't work out so well with the PErcona tarball imo | 07:19 |
| StevenK | The Percona stuff has been working fine for a while? | 07:19 |
| StevenK | Keep in mind cloud images are also downloaded from the internet | 07:20 |
| StevenK | And the default behavior is to download all requirements from pypi directly | 07:20 |
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| lxsli | OK message received. So should we just remove the support from dpkg + apt-sources since we're not allowed to use it? | 07:22 |
| StevenK | You are allowed to use it. | 07:22 |
| StevenK | I quite liked greghaynes's suggestion of DIB_REPOLOCATION_elasticsearch if you use source-repositories | 07:23 |
| lxsli | I need to read up about that | 07:23 |
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| lxsli | I've probably consumed my share of meeting time now, thanks | 07:24 |
| StevenK | Okay, so my patch is pretty special | 07:24 |
| * tchaypo already has popcorn | 07:24 | |
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| StevenK | It's os-cloud-config, and it's +450 lines, but it's been up since the 22nd of July and in that time it's had one +1 | 07:24 |
| StevenK | Well, 2. Since Jenkins likes it | 07:25 |
| tchaypo | StevenK: any chance you can break it into something smaller? | 07:25 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: Not easily | 07:25 |
| StevenK | It adds support for setup-neutron to os-cloud-config | 07:25 |
| lxsli | the lack of even a project description at https://github.com/openstack/os-cloud-config isn't helping | 07:26 |
| lsmola2 | StevenK, cool, I will look on that | 07:26 |
| StevenK | lxsli: Blah, I keep meaning to fix that | 07:26 |
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| lxsli | StevenK: sweet :) | 07:27 |
| tchaypo | StevenK: I'll try to take a look as well | 07:27 |
| tchaypo | d0ugal: did you want to say anyhting about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104548/ ? | 07:28 |
| StevenK | lxsli: See #tripleo, I've pushed up a very WIP branch for that | 07:28 |
| lxsli | Great will do | 07:28 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: nothing specific - I'm just looking for reviewers as I keep needing to rebase since it touches a bunch of files | 07:28 |
| tchaypo | d0ugal: yeah, that's massive | 07:28 |
| StevenK | lxsli: But since it will keep staring at me in the face when I look at my dashboard, I'll probably finish it off soon | 07:29 |
| lxsli | #link https://review.openstack.org/115523 | 07:29 |
| tchaypo | is tuskar-knowledge required to be useful reviewing that? | 07:29 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: Indeed, mostly deletes thankfully but hard to break up. | 07:29 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: not really, oslo.db knowledge is probably the most useful | 07:29 |
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| tchaypo | Anything else before we move on? | 07:31 |
| tchaypo | #topic Projects needing releases | 07:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Projects needing releases (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:31 | |
| tchaypo | Do we have a victimeer this week? | 07:32 |
| lifeless | hi, sorry for awolness. | 07:32 |
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| tchaypo | hrm. this is a problem. | 07:34 |
| tchaypo | StevenK: were you still looking for a chance to do a release? | 07:34 |
| StevenK | I can not | 07:34 |
| lifeless | I can do a release | 07:34 |
| StevenK | It requires membership in the tripleo-ptl group | 07:34 |
| tchaypo | #info lifeless to do this weeks' round of releases | 07:35 |
| tchaypo | #topic CD Cloud status | 07:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CD Cloud status (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:35 | |
| derekh | hp1 is up and running again | 07:36 |
| tchaypo | #info hp2 is making progress, slowed down by me doing a bunch of learning as I go | 07:36 |
| derekh | ci tests arn't yet passing at a rate thats high enough, currently investigating | 07:36 |
| tchaypo | I'm going to tentatively say hp2 might perhaps be ready for some testing early next week | 07:36 |
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| tchaypo | #info derekh reports that hp1 is up and running, but has a higher-than-acceptable error rate - investigations are continuing | 07:37 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: That probably refers to both hp1 and the redhat ci cloud | 07:37 |
| tchaypo | #undo | 07:38 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x294c9d0> | 07:38 |
| tchaypo | #info derekh reports hp1 is up and running. | 07:38 |
| derekh | StevenK: no rh1 is ok | 07:38 |
| tchaypo | #info derekh further reports that he's investigating why ci tests aren't passing at a high enough rate in hp1 | 07:38 |
| StevenK | Ah, right | 07:39 |
| derekh | tchaypo: #info is correct | 07:39 |
| tchaypo | Anything else? | 07:40 |
| derekh | nothing from me | 07:41 |
| tchaypo | #topic ci | 07:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ci (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:41 | |
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| derekh | tripleo ci was reporting incorrect results since friday, iirc that's fixed now but anything thats passed since then can't be trusted | 07:41 |
| tchaypo | derekh: could you hashtag-info that? | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | also, are we doing anythign systematic to find bad commits and revert/fix, or are we just reacting as we find breakage? | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | also, could you @link anywhere we can find out more about root-cause/remediation? | 07:42 |
| derekh | #info tripleo ci tests that have passed since friday last can't be trusted, lots of false positives | 07:42 |
| lifeless | well | 07:43 |
| derekh | tchaypo: looks like the commits that were breaking ci are now reverted | 07:43 |
| lifeless | if CI is passing right now | 07:43 |
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| lifeless | its fine | 07:44 |
| derekh | lifeless: it is | 07:44 |
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| derekh | anybody know if there was there a bug for it | 07:44 |
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| tchaypo | so... the things that passed since friday... can be trusted, on account of being tested since we fixed CI? | 07:44 |
| lifeless | yes | 07:45 |
| lifeless | just don't deploy from within that window:) | 07:45 |
| derekh | tchaypo: can -> can't | 07:45 |
| lifeless | ah | 07:45 |
| lifeless | derekh means 'unmerged stuff with a CI run from before today-after-fixing cannot be +A'd' | 07:46 |
| tchaypo | #info lifeless> derekh means 'unmerged stuff with a CI run from before today-after-fixing cannot be +A'd' | 07:46 |
| lifeless | tchaypo means 'is trunk ok' | 07:46 |
| tchaypo | indeed | 07:47 |
| derekh | lifeless: yup, | 07:47 |
| tchaypo | okay. ready to move on? | 07:47 |
| tchaypo | #topic Tuskar | 07:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tuskar (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:47 | |
| derekh | Here is a bug I noticed on monday https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1358397 , would be great if somebody had the time to take a peak | 07:48 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1358397 in tripleo "overcloud stack-create takes > 30 minutes" [High,Triaged] | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | We already had a review from d0ugal that needs to be looked at | 07:48 |
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| derekh | basically overcloud test is taking about 30 minutes longer then it should | 07:48 |
| derekh | I've filed whats there but havn't poked into it at all, so no other info | 07:48 |
| tchaypo | I'm going to start rushing along since we're running out of time | 07:49 |
| tchaypo | #topic one-off items | 07:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "one-off items (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:49 | |
| tchaypo | #info thoughts about separate CI jobs to test BLOCKSTORAGESCALE and SWIFTSTORAGESCALE? (gfidente) | 07:50 |
| * tchaypo pokes gfidente | 07:50 | |
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| gfidente | doh, sorry, was late, thanks tchaypo | 07:50 |
| tchaypo | gfidente: I just mentioned your item, can you expand on it? | 07:51 |
| gfidente | yeah I just wanted to see if other people was interested in having jobs testing the block storage and swift storage scaling | 07:51 |
| gfidente | as that part of code is not tested by the jobs I saw in derekh'l spreadsheet | 07:52 |
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| jp_at_hp | it makes sense to me, if there will e capacity to do so. | 07:53 |
| derekh | gfidente: they sound to me like its something worth testing, if it was acceptable we could them to 2 of the existing jobs (1 each) | 07:53 |
| lsmola | gfidente: +1, that part was often broken AFAIK, we should test it | 07:53 |
| tchaypo | gfidente: you have an answer, make it so! | 07:53 |
| * tchaypo rushes forward | 07:53 | |
| tchaypo | #topic specs | 07:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:53 | |
| derekh | gfidente: we could try it at least, if thats not going to work we could try an extra job | 07:53 |
| gfidente | derekh, I see what you mean, agreed | 07:54 |
| tchaypo | We've had some discussion on the mailing list about specs/approval, I propose we continue the discussion there | 07:54 |
| tchaypo | which leaves us 5 minutes... | 07:54 |
| tchaypo | #topic open discussion | 07:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 07:54 | |
| lsmola | so what is the number of spec reviews we should do per week? | 07:54 |
| tchaypo | My question is: Are these alternate-time meetings useful? | 07:54 |
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| StevenK | tchaypo: Yes | 07:55 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: yes! | 07:55 |
| tchaypo | lsmola: I believe the numbers being suggested at the mid-cycle were around 1/2 per week | 07:55 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: (I can rarely make the other meeting time) | 07:55 |
| lsmola | tchaypo: yes | 07:55 |
| lsmola | tchaypo: ok, thanks | 07:55 |
| tchaypo | You don't find that the smaller number of attendees here makes it less useful? | 07:55 |
| d0ugal | less useful, sure, but better than nothing for me :) | 07:56 |
| tchaypo | (it sounds like the answer is "but the smaller number includes me, which makes it awesome!") | 07:56 |
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| d0ugal | ha | 07:56 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: I guess the question is, how many people do we get at this meeting that otherwise can't make the other one? | 07:56 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: I'd much rather be sleeping at 0500 rather than meeting, which means this meeting is excellent | 07:56 |
| d0ugal | That's the real purpose of an alternative time IIUC | 07:56 |
| lsmola | tchaypo: hehe | 07:57 |
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| tchaypo | okay, I'm going to bring this meeting to an end a few minutes early so I can run to my german class. | 07:58 |
| gfidente | too bad | 07:58 |
| * gfidente joking | 07:58 | |
| derekh | both meeting are equally outside of my working day, this one is an hour befor I usually start and the other 2 hours after I leave so ... meh | 07:58 |
| lxsli | same | 07:59 |
| d0ugal | same | 07:59 |
| d0ugal | but I have more plans after work than before work :) | 07:59 |
| gfidente | tchaypo, but overall I think the problem raised by tchaypo is real | 07:59 |
| jp_at_hp | which is fine till winter kicks in and its 2 hours before work :-( | 07:59 |
| gfidente | maybe we can try to find a different timeframe for a single meeting time? | 07:59 |
| tchaypo | gfidente: which problem is that? | 07:59 |
| gfidente | (not many people) | 07:59 |
| StevenK | We effectively cover the world | 07:59 |
| StevenK | Which means one meeting time is *hard* | 08:00 |
| tchaypo | ah right. | 08:00 |
| derekh | jp_at_hp: ahhh, I hadn't thought of that | 08:00 |
| tchaypo | One of the reasons for this time was to enable people in eastern APAC to join, but it seems like most people are actually from western europe (ie, the areas where it's an hour or so before their normal workday) | 08:00 |
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| d0ugal | jp_at_hp: +1, moving this meeting a little later before the time change would be handy. | 08:00 |
| tchaypo | maybe moving it an hour later would be useful? And almost certainly we need ot adjust once DST flips over | 08:01 |
| StevenK | I'm happy with 1700AEST. I'm less happy with 1800AEST | 08:01 |
| tchaypo | d0ugal/jp_at_hp/gfidente/derekh - could you suggest this on the list? | 08:01 |
| derekh | tchaypo: can do | 08:01 |
| tchaypo | thanks | 08:02 |
| tchaypo | #endmeeting | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 20 08:02:07 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-08-20-07.00.html | 08:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-08-20-07.00.txt | 08:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2014/tripleo.2014-08-20-07.00.log.html | 08:02 |
| StevenK | Thanks guys | 08:02 |
| d0ugal | tchaypo: Thanks! | 08:02 |
| StevenK | tchaypo: Bis bald | 08:02 |
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| lxsli | thanks tchaypo | 08:02 |
| lsmola | tchaypo: thanks | 08:02 |
| gfidente | tchaypo+1 :) | 08:02 |
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| Swami | hi folks | 15:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: hi | 15:04 |
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| Vinod_ | hi Swami | 15:04 |
| Swami | hi carl_baldwin | 15:04 |
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| Swami | Vinod_: hi | 15:04 |
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| Bhooshan | swami: Hi | 15:04 |
| Vinod_ | Hi Carl | 15:04 |
| Swami | #startmeeting distributed_virtual_router | 15:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 20 15:04:43 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: distributed_virtual_router)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 15:04 |
| Swami | Bhooshan: hi | 15:04 |
| pcm_ | hi | 15:04 |
| Rajeev | Swami: Hi | 15:05 |
| Swami | Rajeev: hi | 15:05 |
| Swami | pcm_:hi | 15:05 |
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| Swami | #info Feature Proposal freeze is this week | 15:06 |
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| Swami | #topic Agenda | 15:06 |
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| Swami | 1. DVR Update | 15:06 |
| Swami | DVR is currently under test. | 15:07 |
| Swami | The code has been completely merged. | 15:07 |
| Swami | DVR team is currently focused on testing, fixing bugs. | 15:08 |
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| Swami | #topic Horizon | 15:09 |
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| Bhooshan | Completed code changes for enhancement of Horizon to support DVR. Patchset4 has been uploaded. | 15:09 |
| Swami | Bhooshan: I saw your patch yesterday | 15:09 |
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| Bhooshan | As per the last meeting removed checkbox from has been replaced with drop down menu. | 15:09 |
| Swami | Bhooshan: I was not able to test your code, I will try to test it today. | 15:09 |
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| Bhooshan | swami: fine | 15:10 |
| Bhooshan | Administrator can choose "Use server default", “Distributed” and “Centralized” from dropdown menu. | 15:10 |
| Swami | Bhooshan: Thanks for the accomodating those change request | 15:10 |
| Bhooshan | "Use server default" won’t carry “distributed” flag along with the REST request. | 15:10 |
| Swami | Bhooshan: Good to know. | 15:11 |
| Bhooshan | Now I am writing unit test case for the DVR support and addressing the comments. | 15:11 |
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| Swami | Bhooshan: The only other pending item is the "Router update" or "Edit" tab | 15:11 |
| Swami | Amotoki mentioned that it can be done by Juno 3. | 15:12 |
| Bhooshan | Amotoki replied for this in one mail | 15:12 |
| Swami | If you are pretty much occupied on this initial effort, can I ask amotoki to work on the edit tab. | 15:12 |
| Bhooshan | update router will go as different patch | 15:13 |
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| amotoki | Swami: Bhooshan: I am okay with either case. | 15:13 |
| Swami | amotoki: thanks for jumping in. | 15:13 |
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| Bhooshan | ok, let wait till we will this patchset | 15:13 |
| Swami | So let us keep both as separate patches. | 15:14 |
| Bhooshan | till we merge this patchset | 15:14 |
| Swami | Bhooshan you can focus on wrapping up the current work that you are doing along with amotoki's work | 15:14 |
| Bhooshan | I am planning to finish unit tests by tomorrow | 15:14 |
| Bhooshan | fine | 15:14 |
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| Swami | I will request amotoki to put in another patch for the router edit tab. | 15:15 |
| Bhooshan | Ok. | 15:15 |
| Swami | amotoki: are you ok with this proposal | 15:15 |
| amotoki | Swami: yes. no problem. | 15:15 |
| Swami | amotoki: Thanks for your help. | 15:15 |
| Bhooshan | Amotoki: Thank you for all your helps | 15:16 |
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| Swami | Bhooshan: can you add your patch link into the irc | 15:16 |
| Swami | Just for people to review | 15:17 |
| Bhooshan | https://review.openstack.org/112583 | 15:17 |
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| Swami | DVR folks please review the horizon UI pages for DVR. | 15:18 |
| amotoki | Swami: is "Edit router" for admin panel in your mind? "Edit Router" in project panel provides not so much value. | 15:18 |
| Swami | amotoki: Yes edit router is only for "admin" at this time to allow an admin to update a router from a legacy to "distributed". | 15:18 |
| Swami | amotoki: is it clear | 15:20 |
| amotoki | Swami: In my undertstanding, Juno supports only updating a router from legacy to distributed. update from dvr to legacy is not supported. | 15:20 |
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| Swami | amotoki: Yes your understanding is right. | 15:20 |
| amotoki | Swami: thanks. it is now clear to me. | 15:20 |
| Swami | ok | 15:21 |
| Swami | Let us move on to the next topic | 15:21 |
| amotoki | there are many patches related to dvr and i cannot track teh status completely :-( | 15:21 |
| Swami | #topic Bugs | 15:21 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1358718 | 15:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1358718 in neutron "duplicate ping packets from dhcp namespace when pinging across DVR subnet VMs" [Medium,New] | 15:21 |
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| Swami | I have posted the link to the DVR bug list | 15:21 |
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| Swami | Most of the bugs we have assignee | 15:22 |
| Swami | A couple of new bugs have poped yesterday. | 15:22 |
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| Swami | One of the bug requires some discussion | 15:23 |
| carl_baldwin | I think our High importance bugs look like they’re under control. I’m having difficulty keeping up with the Medium. | 15:23 |
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| Swami | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1358998 | 15:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1358998 in neutron ""No L3 agents can host the router..." traces for DVR" [Medium,New] | 15:24 |
| Swami | This was one of the bug that was filed by armando yesterday | 15:24 |
| carl_baldwin | If you notice that there has not been enough reviewer attention on a bug fix, could you ping me? | 15:24 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: is there a specific bug | 15:24 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: got it I will let you know if there is a patch that is waiting for review. | 15:25 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: no. No specific bug. Thanks. | 15:25 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: sure will do. | 15:25 |
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| Swami | The bug that i have posted the link above is caused by FWaaS failing in the gate. | 15:26 |
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| Swami | The problem for this is our router namespaces are not getting created and so the Firewall raises an error. | 15:26 |
| Swami | The current firewall does not support DVR and the router configured is all dVR, so the behavior is odd. | 15:27 |
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| carl_baldwin | Swami: You mean that the bug is the cause for FWaaS failing? | 15:28 |
| Swami | In dvr we only create an IR if there is a VM on the network or in the case of service node we create an IR if there is a gateway and interface attached to the IR. | 15:28 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: Yes that's what armando mentioned to me yesterday. | 15:28 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Thanks for the clarification. | 15:28 |
| Swami | The log message by itself is kind of missleading we might have to correct the log message. | 15:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | After looking at this further, I wonder if Medium is appropriate for this bug. | 15:29 |
| Swami | When there is no VM in the network, the scheduler comes back and says that there are no valid L3 agents right now. | 15:29 |
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| Swami | The main reason I brought up this topic is because myself, armando had concerns with the way the current IR's are created. | 15:30 |
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| Swami | I just wanted to get some feedback from the team on how we can handle this situation. | 15:30 |
| Swami | There are two options | 15:31 |
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| Swami | 1. Fix the FWaaS code to handle DVR routers in the gate testing so that it never waits for the IR and when IR is created the FWaaS should apply the rules. In this case the L3scheduler to provide information to the FwaaS agent when the IR is created. | 15:31 |
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| Swami | Option: 2. We should create IR's irrespective of the VM's availability. | 15:32 |
| Swami | What is your take on this. | 15:32 |
| Swami | armando: ping | 15:33 |
| Rajeev | Swami: thanks for putting out the options. Don't like 2 | 15:33 |
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| Swami | Rajeev: Thanks for your input | 15:34 |
| Swami | armando seems to align on option 2. | 15:34 |
| Rajeev | Swami: is 2 for only single node scenario ? | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: Could I get a little more detail on option 2? In what case would we create an IR where we don’t now? | 15:35 |
| Swami | No he was ok for multi node as well. | 15:36 |
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| Rajeev | Swami: Is FWaaS the only reason for 2 ? | 15:36 |
| armax | chuckC_: hi | 15:36 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: Armando is suggesting can we go ahead and create IR's similar to centralized routers on all nodes, where there are active L3 agents, instead of checking for a dvr related port to pop up. | 15:36 |
| chuckC_ | armax: guess not! | 15:36 |
| armax | yeah, armax would do the trick | 15:37 |
| Swami | armax: are you there | 15:37 |
| armax | yes | 15:37 |
| armax | hang on let me read through | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: So, all compute nodes would host all IRs? | 15:37 |
| Swami | armax: we are just going through the two options that we were discussing regarding the IR creation | 15:37 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: Yes | 15:38 |
| armax | Swami: right, I am still on the fence as to what option is best | 15:38 |
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| Rajeev | Swami: I still want to know what the motivation is for these options ? | 15:39 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: armax: That just won’t scale. Network namespaces are not as resource intensive as VMs but they are not free. We cannot load a compute host with 1000s of NSs. | 15:39 |
| armax | Swami: the fact that we create namespaces under some (not well documented) circumstances | 15:39 |
| WormMan | I think all compute nodes having every router would be messy and complicated. We run nova-network MultiHost and 64 tenants/vlans is ba enough there | 15:39 |
| WormMan | bad enough | 15:39 |
| armax | makes it difficult to understand when and where namespaces should or should not be | 15:39 |
| armax | option 2 is only better to rule out any logic error | 15:39 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: agreed, that was my original comment on that option. | 15:39 |
| armax | if namespaces are always supposed to be there | 15:39 |
| armax | then the presence of namespace or lack thereof will tell immediately if there’s a sympthom or not | 15:40 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: agreed that performance may be an issue | 15:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: Performance will be an issue. A big one. | 15:41 |
| armax | it’s not a matter of namespace handles on the hosts | 15:41 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: but also the notifications that would result in getting those namespaces there | 15:41 |
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| Rajeev | control plane traffic after the Namespaces are created would be high too | 15:42 |
| Rajeev | because updates will get directed to all nodes | 15:42 |
| Swami | So are we all in an agreement that Option 2 is ruled out. | 15:42 |
| carl_baldwin | +1 | 15:43 |
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| Swami | Ok, now let us come back to the Option 1. | 15:43 |
| Rajeev | +1 would feel better if I knew why we are bringing these options | 15:43 |
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| Rajeev | Is there any other reason than the Fwaas and simplicity ? | 15:44 |
| Swami | So in order to fix this issue for now, we either have to fix the current FWaaS tempest test suite that tries to configure the FWaaS for Distributed routers | 15:44 |
| Rajeev | In that case 2 sounds like an overkill | 15:45 |
| carl_baldwin | Is the fwaas agent the same as the l3 agent? | 15:45 |
| Swami | Yes it is using the l3 agent, there is no separate agent for it. | 15:45 |
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| armax | when looking at the fwaas test errors yestarday I noticed that the test might pass based on a dirty state of the L3 agent | 15:47 |
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| Swami | rajeev: Yes in terms of simplicity option 2 would be more simple, but for performance reasons we have to move away from option 2. | 15:47 |
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| Swami | armax: Is that a trivial change. | 15:48 |
| armax | Swami: I haven’t root caused it completely…but the fact that we make the transition of the firewall state from PENDING_CREATE to CREATE by looking also at the actual namespaces on the agent’s node is a bit weird | 15:48 |
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| Swami | armax: I think it is because they are dependent on the router, so they have a check in there. | 15:49 |
| armax | Rajeev, Swami: let’s put at rest option 2. The only reason I brought it up was because we found so many issues with namespace placement that I was advocating for option 2, only as a first step and then walk back to address the performance issues | 15:49 |
| armax | but that ship has sailed in my opinion, it seems we got a good handle on how to deal with snat/ir namespaces etc. | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: That is a bit wierd. | 15:49 |
| Rajeev | armax: understood. thanks for explaining. | 15:50 |
| armax | so let’s stick with option 1 | 15:50 |
| Swami | agreed. | 15:50 |
| armax | and perhaps let’s document somewhere in the code where/when the placement happens | 15:50 |
| armax | because just reading the code it’s not super clear | 15:50 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: +1 we need to be clear about this. | 15:50 |
| Swami | armax: carl_baldwin: I have initiated a thread with the FWaaS team on this issue and probably we might fix this behavior for the DVR with their current implementation. | 15:50 |
| Rajeev | +1 | 15:51 |
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| armax | Swami: the other reason why I brough option 2 up was because of this b | 15:51 |
| armax | bug | 15:51 |
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| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1358998 | 15:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1358998 in neutron ""No L3 agents can host the router..." traces for DVR" [Medium,New] | 15:52 |
| armax | not a bug per se... | 15:52 |
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| armax | but the fact that we’re looking a failure in router placement is confusing to the eye of the admin | 15:52 |
| armax | anyhow, let’s go back to fwaas/dvr | 15:52 |
| Swami | armax: yes that's what leaded us to this discussion here in the IRC | 15:52 |
| armax | gotcha | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: I haven’t totally wrapped my head around the problem. It could just be a misleading log message. | 15:53 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: it is indeed | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | Or, maybe it is a bigger problem? | 15:53 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: right…we can’t tell for sure and it depends on each case | 15:53 |
| carl_baldwin | Hence my inability to make up my mind about the bugs Importance. :) | 15:54 |
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| Swami | armax: carl_baldwin: The log messages requires some clean up, there are some misleading logs. We will try to clean it up as part of the snat fixes. | 15:54 |
| armax | hence the whole story around option 2; if we had chosen that path intiially only to improve it aftewards we would’ve been able to tell | 15:54 |
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| Swami | ok. | 15:55 |
| Swami | #topic DVR migration patch | 15:55 |
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| Swami | Mike is currently working on the migration patch, but he is also having challenges in migrating a legacy router with multiple subnets to a DVR router. | 15:56 |
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| mrsmith | Swami: yes - a couple probs | 15:56 |
| Swami | If VMs are scattered across multiple subnets for a legacy router, there is no cleaner way to migrate the legacy router and create IR on all respective compute Nodes. | 15:57 |
| mrsmith | the current code doesn't handle multiple subnets well - so there is a fix for that in progress | 15:57 |
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| mrsmith | it comes back to our previous discussion on IRs on CNs and checking for VMs being present or not | 15:58 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: thanks for the update | 15:58 |
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| mrsmith | I keep hitting db errors related to open sessions and not rolling back previous sessions | 15:58 |
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| mrsmith | hopefully I will have more progress today | 15:58 |
| mrsmith | Swami: np | 15:59 |
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| Swami | #topic Open Discussion | 15:59 |
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| mrsmith | quick - time low | 15:59 |
| Swami | Any other items that we need to discuss | 15:59 |
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| Swami | Ok folks, thanks for joining the meeting. | 16:00 |
| Swami | If we have any other topic we can discuss tomorrow in the L3 meeting. | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Is there any way to fix this in stages? Maybe throw an exception if there are multiple subnets in the first patch and follow on with other patches? | 16:00 |
| Swami | bye | 16:00 |
| mrsmith | carl_baldwin - yes possible | 16:00 |
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| mrsmith | I have considered that | 16:00 |
| Swami | carl_baldwin: that might be a possibility. We will try to explore more on this today and give an update. | 16:00 |
| mrsmith | k | 16:00 |
| carl_baldwin | mrsmith: Swami: thanks | 16:01 |
| Swami | sorry we are at the end of hour. | 16:01 |
| Swami | bye | 16:01 |
| Swami | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 20 16:01:11 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-08-20-15.04.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-08-20-15.04.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-08-20-15.04.log.html | 16:01 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello ML2'ers | 16:01 |
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| rcurran | hi | 16:01 |
| romilg | Hi All | 16:01 |
| irenab | hi | 16:02 |
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| amotoki | hi | 16:02 |
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| rkukura | hi | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | Lets get started | 16:02 |
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| slogan | hi | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 20 16:02:56 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic Agenda | 16:03 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Agenda | 16:03 |
| emagana | hello all! | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | Juno feature proposal deadline is tomorrow | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | For any approved spec/bp - please ensure that your code is in by tomorrow | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | I looked at our wiki - some of the code links are missing | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | I filed in some, but, not all - the owners should be looking and filling them in | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | emagana did a wonderful job of checking into third party CI's and have put together minimal requirements for Juno | 16:06 |
| Sukhdev | Please look at this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NeutronThirdPartyTesting and look for sub-section for Juno minimal requirements | 16:07 |
| emagana | Sukhdev: Thanks! Yes, I am also working directly with most of the CI owners. If you have any questions, you can email me directly (avoiding overload the MLs) | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | make sure your CI meets these requirements or expect a big -2 from him :-) | 16:08 |
| emagana | emagana: Keep making friends! | 16:08 |
| slogan | That's really helpful, thanks for sharing this with us | 16:08 |
| amotoki | IPv6 support will change the minimum requirement of dnsmasq 2.63 which is not provided in Ubuntu 12.04. | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | emagana: friends or enemies :-):-) | 16:08 |
| amotoki | If anyone runs your third party CI, it may potentially break your CI. | 16:09 |
| slogan | can someone remind me of the link where all of the ml2 juno work is tracked? | 16:09 |
| emagana | Let's said I won't win any election at this time... | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | amotoki: so the fix is to upgrade to higher version, correct? | 16:09 |
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| Sukhdev | slogan: we will cover that later | 16:10 |
| amotoki | Sukhdev: correct. Upgrading to 14.04 is most recommended way. | 16:10 |
| slogan | thx | 16:10 |
| amotoki | Ipv6 team will announce it in the next team meeting. | 16:10 |
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| Sukhdev | amotoki: I just upgraded my CI to 14.04 - others may want to do the same - saves a lots of headache | 16:10 |
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| irenab | amotoki: this should not fail agent, right? | 16:10 |
| emagana | amotoki: I dont think Infra will move to 12.04, will they? | 16:10 |
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| emagana | sorry, I mean 14.04 | 16:11 |
| Sukhdev | emagana: infra is already moved to 14.04, I believe | 16:11 |
| amotoki | emagana: AFAIK, most tempest jobs are already run on ubuntu 14.04. | 16:11 |
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| emagana | Thanks! I was not sure about that! | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | So, I just wanted to make sure that everybody is aware of these deadlines and requirements | 16:12 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Action Items from previous Week | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | I updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1311470 to reflect our conclusion from last week's meeting | 16:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1311470 in neutron "Disabling an ML2 type driver can leave orphaned DB records" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:13 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: Thanks for taking care of my action item! Look fine to me! | 16:13 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: no worries | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | next item - emagana to file doc bug corresponding to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1311470 | 16:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1311470 in neutron "Disabling an ML2 type driver can leave orphaned DB records" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:14 |
| Sukhdev | emagana: any update? | 16:14 |
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| emagana | Sukhdev: I will work on this item (and others doc related) next week when I meet in San Antonio with Some of the Docs folks | 16:15 |
| emagana | Sukhdev: bottom line, is still in pending status | 16:15 |
| Sukhdev | emagana: cool thanks - please update us when you have an update | 16:16 |
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| emagana | Sukhdev: I will! | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | emagana: this will be included in Juno documentation, right? | 16:16 |
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| emagana | absolutely! | 16:16 |
| Sukhdev | Third item - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews | 16:16 |
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| Sukhdev | banix added priority to this table - please ensure it is correct | 16:17 |
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| Sukhdev | s/priority/priority column | 16:17 |
| slogan | I think this is the page I was looking for | 16:17 |
| Sukhdev | slogan: correct | 16:18 |
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| Sukhdev | Everybody, please try to keep this updated with your patch/spec information so that this team can get to it and review it in a timely manner | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | Anything on any of these action items? | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | move right along - | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Bugs | 16:19 |
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| Sukhdev | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113999/ | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | banix is working on this to support bulk operations | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | He is not here today, but, has requested that we review this patch | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | our bug czar is missing today, so, I will skip the bugs section this week | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | Unless somebody wants to discuss some specific bug | 16:22 |
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| Sukhdev | if you do, this is perfect time to speak up | 16:22 |
| romilg | I request you to discuss about following bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1224978 | 16:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1224978 in neutron "port binding on multi segment networks could lead to agent misconfiguration" [Medium,In progress] | 16:22 |
| rcurran | Sukhdev, are we going to track bugs via our wiki or just here | 16:22 |
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| romilg | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103546/11 | 16:23 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: shivharis usually follows them up and lists them on the agenda for discussion here | 16:23 |
| romilg | currently there is no milestone set for the above mention bug | 16:23 |
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| Sukhdev | rcurran: he is off today | 16:24 |
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| rcurran | Sukhdev, ok - is he looking for specific tags on the bugs | 16:24 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: yes - ML2 | 16:24 |
| rcurran | ok | 16:24 |
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| Sukhdev | romilg: did we not have this on agenda last week? | 16:25 |
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| Sukhdev | romilg: so, this requires code review | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: can you look at this, please? | 16:27 |
| romilg_ | sorry, I got disconnected | 16:27 |
| romilg_ | yeah it was there in last week agenda | 16:28 |
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| Sukhdev | romilg_: no worries | 16:28 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: Yes. I had looked a while back, and will review it in detail. | 16:28 |
| romilg_ | thanks :) | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | I will review it as well | 16:28 |
| Sukhdev | Anything else on the bugs? | 16:28 |
| romilg_ | Also , I request to set the milestone on the bug 1224978 | 16:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1224978 in neutron "port binding on multi segment networks could lead to agent misconfiguration" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1224978 | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | romilg_: I think rkukura can updated it when he reviews the code | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Code Reviews | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tracking_ML2_Subgroup_Reviews#Under_Review | 16:30 |
| romilg_ | okie | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | I see three high priority items | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | is asomya here? | 16:31 |
| asomya | yes | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | I updated the wiki to include all three patches | 16:32 |
| Sukhdev | asomya: want to discuss it? | 16:32 |
| asomya | Sukhdev: sure | 16:32 |
| asomya | So after extensive discussions with rkukura, we decided to just limit the refactor scope to dynamic segment in Juno. We'll take another pass at it in Kilo for the major refactor work. | 16:32 |
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| asomya | The current refactor has been broken into 3 pieces: one just consolidating segmentation code from the plugin to the type manager | 16:33 |
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| asomya | second to implement dynamic segment allocation ability to the type manager and the port context | 16:33 |
| asomya | the third one is to add a distinction between provider networks and tenant networks | 16:33 |
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| Sukhdev | Sorry - this time I got disconnected | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | asomya: I reviewed your earlier patch, but, have not looked at the latest three yet | 16:34 |
| asomya | Sulhdev: these are quite similar to the original patch, just broken up and a lot of code has been removed.. so it should be an easier review :) | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | I included them on the wiki for easy access for everybody - to get quicker turn around | 16:35 |
| asomya | Sukhdev: Thanks | 16:35 |
| Sukhdev | Anybody has any comment on this? | 16:35 |
| slogan | I'd be happy to take a crack at reviewing anything that needs reviewing | 16:35 |
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| nlahouti | markmcclain: Hi, have you had chance to go through our reply in this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114412 | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | slogan: please take a look at the wiki and review as much as you can | 16:36 |
| slogan | what happens with low priority items that don't get reviewed, pushed to Kilo? | 16:37 |
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| markmcclain | nlahouti: will look this afternoon during conference break | 16:37 |
| nlahouti | markmcclain: thx Mark | 16:37 |
| sadasu | Could folks pls review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74134/ ? Thanks for the reviews so far | 16:37 |
| sadasu | I have taken care of all comments I have received so far | 16:37 |
| rkukura | Sukhdev: There are two other high priority items we haven’t discussed | 16:37 |
| Sukhdev | slogan: no, that is not correct - high priority represents the core work - low priority represents vendor specific work | 16:38 |
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| slogan | oh | 16:38 |
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| slogan | so for the vendors, high priority :-) | 16:38 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: yes, getting to the next one - so, you spoke at the right time - want to talk about the hierarchical port binding? | 16:38 |
| rkukura | slogan: I believe the BPs need to be re-reviewed/approved for the next cycle | 16:38 |
| rkukura | Sure | 16:38 |
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| Sukhdev | slogan: yes :-) | 16:39 |
| rkukura | The initial patch is in review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115110/ | 16:39 |
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| rkukura | This has the ML2 driver API changes needed for hierarchical port binding | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I started to review it this morning, did not finish it yet :-) | 16:40 |
| rkukura | Anypone working on drivers that will make use, in Juno or later, of this should take a look now | 16:40 |
| rkukura | The second patch is almost ready to post | 16:40 |
| Sukhdev | That includes all of us - we should all review it | 16:40 |
| rkukura | The 2nd patch changes the ML2 DB schema to represent the binding info for multiple levels. | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: T - 1 and counting :-):-) | 16:41 |
| rcurran | rkukura, so will there be a 2nd bug for the "TODO" hierarchical work? | 16:41 |
| rcurran | or just another patch | 16:41 |
| rcurran | which is what you wrote :-) | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: that is what he is getting ready to post | 16:41 |
| rkukura | This has been a pain, partly do to the way DVR was incorporated, but I’m down to just one unit test to get working | 16:41 |
| rkukura | The 3rd patch will change the binding logic to actually do multiple levels. | 16:42 |
| rkukura | I’m expecting to the 2nd out today, and the 3rd today or tomorrow. | 16:42 |
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| irenab | rkukura: any patch expected for neutron-client? | 16:43 |
| rkukura | irenab: No change to REST API | 16:43 |
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| rkukura | The 3rd patch will likely depend on asomya’s 2nd patch | 16:43 |
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| Sukhdev | So, for all ML2 driver owners these patches are important - be sure to review them as soon as they are posted | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: please ensure to add the link to the wiki when you post it | 16:45 |
| rkukura | The obvious concern is that we won’t have time to upgrade any MDs to use hierarchical binding for Juno, but maybe that can be done while existing patches are in review. | 16:45 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: will do | 16:45 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: I want to use them for Kilo for my driver - give them some time to bake | 16:46 |
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| Sukhdev | Any thing on these two items? | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | The third item - Neutron OVS based Distributed Virtual Router | 16:47 |
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| Sukhdev | any body from DVR team here? | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | carl_baldwin: are you here? | 16:48 |
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| rkukura | I think most/all of their planned ML2 changes have already merged, but I could easily be wrong | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | rkukura: I wil add to the action item to follow up with them to ensure it | 16:49 |
| * carl_baldwin reads back a bit. | 16:49 | |
| rkukura | I’ve been adding REVISIT comments to code for my 2nd patch regarding some serious issues in the already-merged DVR code | 16:49 |
| rkukura | Things like calling precommit but not calling postcommit! | 16:49 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: wow!! that does not sound right | 16:49 |
| rkukura | So I’m expecting some cleanup work to be done as bug fixes between now and when Juno ships | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | #action: Sukhdev or rkukura to follow up with DVR team regarding Neutron OVS based Distributed Virtual Router | 16:50 |
| carl_baldwin | rkukura: The best way to get that on the DVR team’s radar will be to add ‘l3-dvr-backlog’ tag to a bug report. | 16:50 |
| carl_baldwin | From there, we can have a discussion. | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | carl_baldwin: good suggestion - thanks | 16:51 |
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| rkukura | carl_baldwin I really wish I had been able to spend more time reviewing the DVR patches before they merged, and apologize that I didn’t. | 16:51 |
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| rkukura | carl_baldwin: I’ve already has some discussions with armax about cleaning up the DB schema in ML2 so there isn’t so much duplication. I hope to work with you guys on that. | 16:52 |
| carl_baldwin | rkukura: I understand. I look forward to working with you on it. | 16:53 |
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| armax | rkukura, carl_baldwin: I’ll have a look at the patch | 16:54 |
| armax | which one is it? | 16:54 |
| rkukura | armax: The REVISITs are in the patch I’m expecting to post later today. I will try to file bugs with the tag as well. | 16:54 |
| armax | I am not entirely sure what’s going on, but iirc post-commit methods for dvr ports should be called | 16:54 |
| rkukura | armax: On delete_port, precommit gets called for every host, but postcommit is only called once. | 16:55 |
| carl_baldwin | rkukura: I’d like to have a look at the patch as well when you post it. | 16:55 |
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| armax | rkukura: I think that’s handled in the l2pop driver, but I might be mistaken | 16:55 |
| armax | rkukura: definitely, I am eager to get my eyes on the patch | 16:56 |
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| rkukura | carl_baldwin, armax: In this patch I’m avoiding changing DVR logic, but moving the driver and segment fields from the [dvr_]port_binding table to a separate table. | 16:56 |
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| Sukhdev | time check - 3 min | 16:57 |
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| armax | rkukura: ok | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | #topic Open Discussion | 16:58 |
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| Sukhdev | Any thing on anybody's mind? | 16:58 |
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| slogan | In general, is there a need for a vendor who is thinking of doing a simple, VLAN-based ML2 plugin to show up at a design summit? | 16:59 |
| sadasu | Could I have some more reviewers for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74134/? | 16:59 |
| slogan | er, mech driver | 16:59 |
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| Sukhdev | Please ensure to review all the critical patches | 16:59 |
| slogan | so, how to identify critical? | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | slogan: VLAN-based ML2 plugin? you mean driver? | 17:00 |
| slogan | yep, mech driver | 17:00 |
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| Sukhdev | sadasu: I reviewed it yesterday | 17:00 |
| sadasu | Sukhdev: thanks! I saw that.. | 17:00 |
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| irenab | sadasu: will follow today as well | 17:00 |
| slogan | seems like there isn't a need since the driver is not introducing semantics, just implementing a well-defined type driver | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | slogan: like I mentioned earlier - the core impacting - the ones we discussed bit earlier | 17:00 |
| slogan | ok | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | slogan: did not quite follow | 17:01 |
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| Sukhdev | well we are over our time | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | Good meeting - see you next week | 17:02 |
| slogan | sukhdev: never mind, it's not a big issue | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 20 17:02:27 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-08-20-16.02.html | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-08-20-16.02.txt | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-08-20-16.02.log.html | 17:02 |
| Kiall | #startmeeting Designate | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 20 17:02:36 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | slogan: ah OK | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:02 |
| Kiall | Hey all who's here? | 17:02 |
| mugsie | o/ | 17:02 |
| rjrjr_ | o? | 17:02 |
| betsy | o/ | 17:02 |
| timsim | o/ | 17:02 |
| vinod1 | o/ | 17:02 |
| msisk | o/ | 17:03 |
| paul_glass | o/ | 17:03 |
| Kiall | #topic Action Items from last week | 17:03 |
| eankutse | o/ | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | 1) kiall to talk to infra re SP branch... | 17:03 |
| Kiall | Apologies, I've not had a chance yet. | 17:03 |
| Kiall | 2) all to review the SP blueprints while the mid-cycle is still fresh. | 17:03 |
| Kiall | Based on the email stream, most people have. | 17:03 |
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| Kiall | When we get to ^ topic, I'll give everyone time to re-read the latest comments. | 17:03 |
| Kiall | 3) mugsie to write up SP terminology section in the main SP blueprint. | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: I didn't notice this, did you get a chance? | 17:04 |
| mugsie | done - there is discussion happening on it right now though | 17:04 |
| mugsie | so, I currently have it open, and am entering the suggestios from vinod1 | 17:04 |
| Kiall | Ah.. I missed it. Okay, again it'll fall under the SP BP topic. | 17:04 |
| mugsie | it is in #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101298/5 | 17:05 |
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| Kiall | 4) all to review https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/MdnsScalability | 17:05 |
| Kiall | I refreshd on it, did others? :) | 17:05 |
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| timsim | I did :P | 17:05 |
| betsy | I looked over it | 17:05 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:06 |
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| eankutse | i did | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Okay.. Great | 17:06 |
| mugsie | i assumed you did timsim ;) | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Last, 5) kiall to put MdnsScalability back on agenda for next week. | 17:06 |
| Kiall | Technically, I just left it on the page ;) | 17:06 |
| Kiall | #action kiall to talk to infra re SP branch... | 17:06 |
| Kiall | I'll update on that one next week. | 17:06 |
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| Kiall | #topic Release Status (kiall) | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | 2 weeks until j3 - any concerns? Any reviews needing more attention? | 17:07 |
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| Kiall | #link https://launchpad.net/designate/+milestone/juno-3 | 17:08 |
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| vinod1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107678/ | 17:08 |
| vinod1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107951/ | 17:08 |
| vinod1 | Not related to j3 - but wanted to ensure that you looked at it Kiall | 17:08 |
| Kiall | vinod1: ahh, yes. They + the update needs to land. I can't approve them myself though. | 17:09 |
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| vinod1 | I −1' it but the CR field shows a check mark | 17:09 |
| Kiall | And, the 3rd patch should be cherry-picked as a separate patch, so they can actually land now ish.. and we'll get the 3rd one backported ASAP | 17:09 |
| mugsie | vinod1: I have a +2 on it | 17:10 |
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| Kiall | #action kiall to do 3rd backport for stable/i for Session reuse bug. | 17:10 |
| Kiall | Will do ^ right after the meeting. | 17:10 |
| mugsie | actually - Kiall I ahve no +2/+A on stable/* anymore | 17:11 |
| Kiall | should only take a few seconds | 17:11 |
| mugsie | vinod do yhou have +2 on that branch? | 17:11 |
| Kiall | Ahh.. neither do I | 17:11 |
| Kiall | Our ACL for stable/ must be messed up. | 17:11 |
| mugsie | if you want I will go update the infra/config perms after this | 17:11 |
| vinod1 | I do not have +2 permissions either | 17:12 |
| mugsie | vinod1: yeha, looks like designate-core are missing perms | 17:12 |
| mugsie | if we were integrated this would be normal | 17:12 |
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| mugsie | but not during incubation | 17:12 |
| Kiall | thanks mugsie - I see what's wrong, fungi suggested the refs/heads/* perms would be inherited into refs/heads/stable/*, I guess they don't :( | 17:12 |
| Kiall | ( https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls/openstack/designate.config ) | 17:12 |
| mugsie | kk | 17:12 |
| mugsie | action me ;0 | 17:13 |
| Kiall | #action mugsie to fix Designate stable branch ACLs | 17:13 |
| vinod1 | Kiall - is the TSIG bp still targetted for j3? | 17:13 |
| Kiall | Okay - I've got 2 mDNS TSIG blueprints assigned to me, but I've let them slip.. I'm likely not going to have time until the weekend to complete them, but they will make it into j3 :) | 17:13 |
| Kiall | vinod1: snap ;) | 17:14 |
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| Kiall | mugsie: zone-migration-between-tenants <-- That was pretty much ready to land, but needs a rebase after the sqla core change. | 17:14 |
| fungi | Kiall: they should be inherited if there are no exclusive group permissions set | 17:15 |
| eankutse | yes | 17:15 |
| mugsie | Kiall: yeah, and eankutse found a few issues as well | 17:15 |
| Kiall | Once that + eankutse's comments are addressed, vinod1 / betsy / myself - can we priotize reviewing and +2'ing if we're happy it's ready? | 17:15 |
| mugsie | i just have to move models stuff -> tables etc | 17:15 |
| mugsie | yup | 17:15 |
| betsy | Sure | 17:15 |
| vinod1 | yes | 17:16 |
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| fungi | Kiall: so that acl looks like it should allow designate-core to +2 and approve things in refs/heads/stable/* but maybe it doesn't work the way we thought | 17:16 |
| vinod1 | Once Betsy is done with the SOA change, I will update the AXFR change too | 17:16 |
| Kiall | fungi: it seems exclusive get's inherited from All-Projects, oh well, mugsie will submit a review later to fix - could you review when he does? :) | 17:16 |
| fungi | Kiall: quite possible that exclusive in all-projects does trump it, yes. oh well | 17:16 |
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| Kiall | fungi: no harm, learned something new and all that :) | 17:17 |
| * fungi nods | 17:17 | |
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| Kiall | vinod1: ++ that set of changes would then effectively complete juno features. I'd be very happy to see that :) | 17:17 |
| Kiall | Okay, Any other release related things to discuss? | 17:18 |
| Kiall | Ooo - I do have 1 actually. | 17:18 |
| Kiall | I've told ttx that we're not going to apply for graduation from incubation this cycle, being so soon. | 17:19 |
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| Kiall | Any objections? | 17:19 |
| mugsie | nope | 17:19 |
| eankutse | no | 17:19 |
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| timsim | Sounds good. | 17:19 |
| vinod1 | Agreed | 17:20 |
| Kiall | Okay.. Moving on so as nobody is giving out :) | 17:20 |
| Kiall | #topic Server Pools Specifications (rjrjr - followup) | 17:20 |
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| Kiall | First up, can we all take 5-10 mins to re-read the latest batch of comments? they all flew in over the last 30 mins :) | 17:20 |
| Kiall | #link https://review.openstack.org/101298 | 17:20 |
| Kiall | #link https://review.openstack.org/112688 | 17:20 |
| Kiall | #link https://review.openstack.org/113462 | 17:20 |
| Kiall | #link https://review.openstack.org/113447 | 17:21 |
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| Kiall | Please let the room know when your finished :) | 17:21 |
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| timsim | I'm good. | 17:24 |
| mugsie | done | 17:24 |
| eankutse | ready | 17:25 |
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| rjrjr_ | done | 17:25 |
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| mugsie | feels.... | 17:25 |
| mugsie | :D | 17:25 |
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| betsy | ready | 17:27 |
| Kiall | Done | 17:27 |
| Kiall | 1 general comment from me, the main BP needs to have the info that's dup'd in the sub-bp's removed, e.g. storage/schema changes etc.. | 17:28 |
| mugsie | well, they don't all agree yet - untill they do, they should stay | 17:28 |
| timsim | mugsie: +1 | 17:29 |
| betsy | But we should have all the discussions in one place, not two | 17:29 |
| betsy | Too confusing | 17:29 |
| rjrjr_ | betsy: +1 | 17:29 |
| mugsie | yup - but they are currently a point of reference | 17:29 |
| mugsie | so, the discussion should happen on the sub specs, | 17:29 |
| betsy | mugsie: cool | 17:29 |
| Kiall | Yep, I ignored sections of the main spec that were dup'd by sub-specs.. | 17:30 |
| mugsie | but they reference in the main spec should stay until there is agreement in the sub spec | 17:30 |
| betsy | mugsie: +1 | 17:30 |
| rjrjr_ | generally, i agree with all the comments on storage/pool manager | 17:30 |
| rjrjr_ | timsim pointed out the missing status table. i'll add that. | 17:30 |
| rjrjr_ | do need direction on threshold impact on zone creation/deletion. | 17:31 |
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| Kiall | Yes, tim also pointed out the missing periodic sync stuff, I'm not 100% sure which BP that belongs in. mugsie? | 17:31 |
| Kiall | (periodic sync was for fixing the list of zones managed by a server, for cases where a server was down during create/deletes etc) | 17:31 |
| timsim | I thought it'd be part of the Pool Manager one, since it'd be part of the base PM plugin (imo) | 17:31 |
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| mugsie | i thinkit is manager | 17:32 |
| rjrjr_ | okay, i'll take care of it. | 17:32 |
| mugsie | as it should be a responsiblity of the maager | 17:32 |
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| rjrjr_ | my intent was to push as much of the table creation, unit testing for objects, etc. into storage as possible. | 17:32 |
| Kiall | #action rjrjr_ to incorporate periodic sync into SP manager spec | 17:32 |
| vinod1 | Also the last line states | 17:33 |
| vinod1 | "**This specification is work in progress.**" | 17:33 |
| vinod1 | Does that mean that there are more additions intended for the spec? | 17:33 |
| rjrjr_ | no, it meant as i saw it, the spec wasn't done. 8^) | 17:33 |
| Kiall | Hah, I missed that :) I guess it does | 17:33 |
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| Kiall | Okay, anyone have any particular issues with the specs they think needs discussion? I have one, but it can wait till the end :) | 17:34 |
| eankutse | I have one | 17:35 |
| vinod1 | I had some comments on the terminology section | 17:35 |
| rjrjr_ | do we take threshold into account for server creation or require 100%? | 17:35 |
| rjrjr_ | server = zone | 17:35 |
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| Kiall | rjrjr_: that was my one :) Let's take vinod1's first though... | 17:35 |
| Kiall | vinod1 / mugsie - have you come up with better terms? Want to discuss them here first? | 17:36 |
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| mugsie | no, I understand the comments vinod1 left | 17:36 |
| mugsie | unless anyone has any other issues before I edit the, | 17:36 |
| mugsie | them* | 17:36 |
| Kiall | They look find with vinod1's comments to me, anyone else? | 17:37 |
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| eankutse | mugsie: | 17:38 |
| eankutse | regarding zone-migration-between-tenants (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107822/), | 17:38 |
| eankutse | specifically on endpoint /transfer-requests parameter 'target_project_id' which specifies to the tenant to which the zone is being transferred. | 17:38 |
| eankutse | Right now, the default is 'all'. So if the caller/user forgets to provide a specific value (tenant) for that parameter when they actually intended to provide one, that would result in an unintended transfer to all that would then require admin involvement to delete that pending transfer request. | 17:38 |
| rjrjr_ | different subject? | 17:38 |
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| eankutse | still on spec | 17:39 |
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| eankutse | sorry:-) | 17:39 |
| eankutse | I'll wait | 17:39 |
| mugsie | :) | 17:39 |
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| mugsie | anyhting elese on SP's | 17:39 |
| Kiall | Kinda ;) Anyway, transfer requests to all can be deleted, and the receiver must know the transfer code (can't remember exactly what it's called) to be able to accept it | 17:39 |
| mugsie | ? | 17:39 |
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| eankutse | Just to avoid potential problems, I think we should make the 'target_project_id' also required and with no default value. Then have a special value that the 'target_project_id has to be set to to assume the semantics of "all projects". | 17:40 |
| Kiall | More of the SP Stuff: I left a comment suggesting we discuss the % thresholds and if they apply to create/update zone in SP manger - http://docs-draft.openstack.org/62/113462/3/check/gate-designate-specs-docs/d7ea6b4/doc/build/html/specs/juno/server-pools-service.html#design-considerations | 17:40 |
| mugsie | I would say it is 100% or nothing for zone create... | 17:41 |
| mugsie | but i may be wrong | 17:41 |
| rjrjr_ | +1 | 17:41 |
| Kiall | mugsie: when you have 100 servers around the world, one of them is pretty much always bound to be down | 17:41 |
| betsy | kiall: that would be my concern | 17:42 |
| vinod1 | Isn't that going to be configurable? | 17:42 |
| Kiall | I'd argue a threshold applies, maybe not the same threshold, but not forced to 100% | 17:42 |
| eankutse | we talked about that, yes. | 17:42 |
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| betsy | kiall: +1 | 17:42 |
| Kiall | vinod1: we discussed it in relation to zone updates being pushed out, rather than create/delete zone actions | 17:42 |
| timsim | I thought it'd apply to all operations. | 17:42 |
| vinod1 | timsim: That was my understanding too | 17:43 |
| rjrjr_ | maybe have 2 threshold values, one for zone updates and another for zone create/delete? | 17:43 |
| Kiall | it sounds like most everyone thinks a threshold should be applied to those operations too, with the periodic sync cleaning up once servers are brought back online. | 17:43 |
| timsim | If the PM was going to be the one that updated the status of changes, it makes sense for it to update everything. | 17:43 |
| timsim | Kiall: Yup. | 17:43 |
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| betsy | rjrjr_: Why would you need 2 different threshold values? | 17:44 |
| Kiall | What about reusing the same %, should we have 3 threshold values? 1 for Create, 1 for waiting on updates, 1 for deletes? or just update / create+delete 2? | 17:44 |
| Kiall | or just 1? | 17:44 |
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| mugsie | i think just 1 | 17:44 |
| vinod1 | Why/When would you want to have different thresholds? | 17:44 |
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| timsim | I'm kind of a fan of just one. Keep it simple. But it'd be easy to change. | 17:45 |
| Kiall | timsim: ++ on the easy to change | 17:45 |
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| vinod1 | Asking another way - When it would be okay to have a create/delete happen but not an update or vice versa? | 17:45 |
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| rjrjr_ | the period sync will handle problems, so 1 makes sense to me. | 17:46 |
| Kiall | My thinking on multiple is, for create anyway, you may want it higher.. e.g. if an update doesn't 100% go out, you're just serving slightly stale data (welcome to DNS!) If the create doesn't go out to enough servers, you're sending NXDOMAINS | 17:46 |
| vinod1 | timsim: ++ | 17:46 |
| Kiall | But I'm happy either way really, it's not hard to change after the fact if we need to.. | 17:46 |
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| timsim | Let's go with one for now, and keep that in mind, should that issue present itself? | 17:47 |
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| mugsie | I think we run with one right now, and if we need to change it later we do... that sound good? | 17:47 |
| Kiall | timsim: agreed. Let's go with A) Yes it applies, and B) Use the 1 threshold value for the moment. | 17:47 |
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| rjrjr_ | +1 | 17:47 |
| mugsie | ++ | 17:48 |
| rjrjr_ | one more question, can i assume the new records tables will be in place before this work starts? | 17:48 |
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| betsy | rjrjr_: I don’t think so. No one’s working on them | 17:48 |
| timsim | rjrjr_: I don't think so. | 17:48 |
| Kiall | Anything else on this round of SP discussion? We'll come back to it next week again for a (shorter) talk... Next week will be nearing release day so we should focus there :) | 17:48 |
| rjrjr_ | probably no direct impact, but the name_servers will come from those tables for the pool (or the servers table.) | 17:49 |
| Kiall | Yea, I would love to see that in Kilo, but it's a big chunk of work | 17:49 |
| rjrjr_ | i'll need to add columns to the servers table to support this. | 17:49 |
| Kiall | Yea, I figured "severs" would be adapted/renamed to suit :) | 17:50 |
| betsy | And does the server api need to be ported to v2? | 17:50 |
| Kiall | betsy: no, pool API replaces it | 17:50 |
| betsy | That’s what I thought | 17:50 |
| betsy | but the change to the server table confused me | 17:50 |
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| Kiall | FYI - 10 mins on the clock.. | 17:50 |
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| rjrjr_ | server tables needs pointer to pool table. | 17:51 |
| Kiall | betsy: I think "servers" get's renamed to "pool_nameservers" (or whatever term we decide on) | 17:51 |
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| Kiall | and pool_id added as rjrjr_ suggests.. | 17:51 |
| betsy | Do we need a separate table to say compatable with v1? | 17:51 |
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| betsy | stay^ | 17:51 |
| Kiall | the V1 servers api then uses default_pool_id and does CRUD on only a single pool | 17:52 |
| rjrjr_ | i'll handle it in the spec. it will be clear. | 17:52 |
| betsy | ok | 17:52 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: excellent :) | 17:52 |
| mugsie | cool | 17:52 |
| vinod1 | How do we get from the pools to the servers in the pools? | 17:52 |
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| vinod1 | Would the pool table have pointers to the servers in the pools? | 17:52 |
| mugsie | select from servers where pool_id = pool.id ? | 17:52 |
| Kiall | Other way around I would expect | 17:53 |
| Kiall | ^ what mugsie said | 17:53 |
| vinod1 | ok | 17:53 |
| Kiall | SELECT * FROM `designate`.`servers` WHERE pool_id = <UUID> | 17:53 |
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| Kiall | Okay, Moving on, tight on time :) | 17:53 |
| Kiall | #topic Follow-up discussion on Database/MiniDNS scalability (timsim) | 17:53 |
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| Kiall | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/MdnsScalability | 17:54 |
| timsim | Anyone have any new thoughts on this? | 17:54 |
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| Kiall | timsim: Nothing I haven't already said :) I think the ideas have merit, we should do scale tests to decide where to concentrate on first, and that all the suggestions don't impact the core, so we can implement them easily over time as needed.. | 17:54 |
| timsim | We're working on a strategy to do some testing. | 17:55 |
| Kiall | What about everyone else? New thoughts? | 17:55 |
| Kiall | timsim: I'd love to see that strategy in the form of a rally plugin :P https://github.com/stackforge/rally | 17:55 |
| timsim | I think the good bit of what we've suggested here is that none of it breaks the current contracts. | 17:55 |
| timsim | Kiall: We'll look into that. | 17:56 |
| rjrjr_ | just one thought, the idea of each minidns being responsible for every zone in an organization seems crazy. DNS is a distributed model and so should Designate. | 17:56 |
| timsim | rjrjr_: I don't think it's crazy that someone might need every zone in places all over the world. | 17:57 |
| Kiall | rjrjr_: DNS is distributed, BUT, every zone has a single "master" (if you follow the specs to the letter), mDNS actually makes that piece more distributed IMO :) | 17:57 |
| rjrjr_ | how do you handle this in DNS? | 17:57 |
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| timsim | What's "this"? | 17:58 |
| Kiall | Also, mDNS's responsiblties towards a zone is very different to say, BINDs, responsiblties towards a zone it's a master of.. | 17:58 |
| timsim | ^very true. | 17:58 |
| Kiall | And - We're out of time.. rjrjr_ shall we pick this up at the start of next week? I think it's worth discussing. | 17:59 |
| Kiall | (discussing properly, with enough time :)) | 17:59 |
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| timsim | Cool! | 17:59 |
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| Kiall | #action kiall to put "all mDNS responsible for all zones" onto agenda for next week | 17:59 |
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| Kiall | Okay - Thanks all, Trove needs the room :) | 17:59 |
| eankutse | cool | 17:59 |
| Kiall | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 20 18:00:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-08-20-17.02.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-08-20-17.02.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-08-20-17.02.log.html | 18:00 |
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| mugsie | o/ | 18:00 |
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| Kiall | i guess trove moved their meet ;) | 18:06 |
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| mattgriffin | Kiall, FYI... this week is the Trove Mid-Cycle Meetup so the meeting was cancelled - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TroveMeeting | 18:28 |
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