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| markwash | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| markwash | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 19 14:00:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markwash. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| hemanth_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| ativelkov | o/ | 14:00 |
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| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| TravT | o/ | 14:00 |
| nikhil___ | o/ | 14:00 |
| brianr | o/ | 14:00 |
| zhiyan | o/ | 14:00 |
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| markwash | I have one item for today, then I guess we can just go into open discussion | 14:01 |
| arnaud | o/ | 14:01 |
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| markwash | reminder agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
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| markwash | #topic addressing the integration requirements gap | 14:02 |
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| markwash | we need to provide the TC with simple plan to address some of our tempest testing gaps | 14:02 |
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| markwash | principle among them is a lack of testing "realistic" image data | 14:03 |
| markwash | I was a bit hasty with the timeline for this item | 14:03 |
| markwash | we need an assignee and plan soon | 14:03 |
| markwash | but the timeline for actually adding more testing should probably be targeting juno-2 | 14:04 |
| nikhil___ | I've no clue about the testing done there atm however, can pick it up if none is available | 14:04 |
| markwash | so I'm looking for some volunteers | 14:04 |
| nikhil___ | if someone can point me to the right place to look into | 14:04 |
| markwash | nikhil___: heh I'm in the same boat | 14:04 |
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| hemanth_ | hemanth_: I have no clue what it takes to address the testing gap, but I can work with nikhil___ | 14:04 |
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| hemanth_ | I'm talking to myself! | 14:04 |
| markwash | haha | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | me neither, but I'm willing to help | 14:04 |
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| nikhil___ | great, we've 3 now hope we can move things forward | 14:05 |
| markwash | okay, based on this what I'm going to do is go digging into to tempest to find the place that needs modification | 14:05 |
| markwash | and I'm going to put nikhil___ down as the assignee | 14:05 |
| nikhil___ | and guessing blitz__ would like to work on as well so 4 .. | 14:05 |
| markwash | and I'll document at least in an email what the gap is and where I think we need to modify tempest | 14:06 |
| nikhil___ | markwash: works | 14:06 |
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| zhiyan | markwash: if you ok pls CC me | 14:06 |
| markwash | #action markwash document changes needed for tempest testing gaps | 14:06 |
| markwash | zhiyan: sure thing | 14:06 |
| nikhil___ | markwash: can work with you today if needed and if it would help .. | 14:06 |
| zhiyan | markwash: thanks | 14:06 |
| markwash | #topic mission statement | 14:07 |
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| markwash | I'm planning on submitting another patchset to the openstack/governance glance mission statement review tomorrow | 14:07 |
| markwash | hopefully we find something that can be adopted by the TC next tuesday | 14:07 |
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| markwash | (just wanted to give that little update) | 14:08 |
| markwash | #topic open discussion | 14:08 |
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| jokke_ | markwash: in the lline with the second mission statement that were out for review? | 14:08 |
| markwash | jokke_: yes, I'm talking about a new version of the change that is out in review right now | 14:09 |
| markwash | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98002/ | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | k | 14:09 |
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| zhiyan | i have a quick one like to get folks help | 14:10 |
| markwash | the agenda is a bit light today, but this could be a good opportunity for folks to ask each other questions | 14:11 |
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| markwash | since we have a good portion of the group here | 14:11 |
| markwash | zhiyan: go for it | 14:11 |
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| zhiyan | basicly, i just like folks help my location-status change stuff | 14:11 |
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| zhiyan | jokke_: thanks for the review btw | 14:12 |
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| jokke_ | zhiyan: still working on it ... it's not fast to digest ;) | 14:12 |
| zhiyan | the db table change has already been landed in I early (iiuc), rest of it is ready for you review | 14:13 |
| wayne__ | in investigating where to add the new metadata-schema tables i noticed there is an abandoned blue-print for moving towards alembic pending community direction...is that still the case? | 14:13 |
| zhiyan | the start point of it is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67115/ | 14:14 |
| markwash | wayne__: I think that we were expecting to just pick that up through oslo I guess? if it is necessary for consistency with the rest of openstack | 14:14 |
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| wayne__ | we used alembic in the graffiti poc...would it make any sense to use alembic just for the metadata-schema tables? | 14:15 |
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| wayne__ | or should i add a new sqlalchemy-migrate version? | 14:15 |
| markwash | wayne__: probably porting that to sqlalchemy-migrate is going to be the way to go | 14:15 |
| wayne__ | ok | 14:16 |
| nikhil___ | markwash: wayne__ : just fyi, we tried to use alembic for another project and it turned out to be a nightmare to switch to it atm | 14:16 |
| ativelkov | what about API? Any plans on moving to pecan? | 14:16 |
| nikhil___ | it def is a good tool however, a bit too early to make the swicth | 14:16 |
| wayne__ | i see | 14:16 |
| markwash | ativelkov: we could never quite muster up the test confidence to authorize a big switch like that (to pecan) | 14:17 |
| markwash | but I was hoping that the graffiti stuff could stay in pecan but still be brought into the glance codebase | 14:17 |
| markwash | any luck on running pecan beside our current wsgi homebrew? | 14:17 |
| markwash | wayne__: ^^ (were you looking into that?) | 14:18 |
| TravT | markwash: lakshmi on our team was started looking into that | 14:18 |
| markwash | ah okay cool | 14:18 |
| lakshmiS | Pecan seems to run in its own process | 14:18 |
| ativelkov | Cause I have the same question on artifacts - if we want this thing to co-exist in v2 branch, we probably have to have a single engine | 14:18 |
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| markwash | how much does pecan buy us, vs what wsme buys us? | 14:19 |
| markwash | and is it possible to use wsme in our current engine? | 14:19 |
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| nikhil___ | using the same port (9292) would be a big factor into using the same process, right? | 14:20 |
| lakshmiS | nikhil___ thats right | 14:20 |
| ativelkov | Port is part of the endpoint in keystone. We probably do not want to have more then one "glance" endpoint in service catalog | 14:21 |
| lakshmiS | wsme could be used separately from pecan. It will gives us marshalling/unmarshalling of json. | 14:21 |
| markwash | lakshmiS, ativelkov: this is definitely a tough integration step. I think we really want to find the solution that lets us make the fewest ripples | 14:21 |
| markwash | I'll also take a look at the pecan wsme stuff this week and see if I can come up with any ideas | 14:21 |
| nikhil___ | ah, that's interesting | 14:22 |
| markwash | I mean, I'm a little terrified of the idea of porting v2 to pecan/wsme, but maybe its not so hard? | 14:22 |
| TravT | We are hoping to at least use the WSME marshalling. | 14:22 |
| markwash | if that's what we have to do | 14:22 |
| ativelkov | As for me I would prefer to use the current engine for now. Migrating to pecan may be done later, when (if) we start doing v3 | 14:22 |
| markwash | ativelkov: ah okay | 14:22 |
| zhiyan | if we can't do it in a underlayer (like wsgi level), v3 is good to me | 14:23 |
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| markwash | it sounds like we need a clear plan of action on the api framework issue | 14:23 |
| zhiyan | +1 | 14:23 |
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| ativelkov | BTW, do we have any long-term (or mid-term) roadmap? | 14:24 |
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| markwash | ativelkov: does there seem to be any advantage to you to using wsme in our current engine | 14:24 |
| TravT | wsme lets you create an object model and then not hand code marshalling. I think that's what you were going to be trying out within current Glance framework next, rigth lakshmiS? | 14:25 |
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| markwash | ativelkov: outside of our specs documents and the general artifact plans, no I don't think so | 14:25 |
| lakshmiS | TravT yes | 14:25 |
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| markwash | #action markwash lakshmiS ativelkov: investigate wsme/pecan options living alongside the current engine for next weeks discussion | 14:27 |
| markwash | ^^ is that okay with you guys? | 14:27 |
| lakshmiS | sounds good | 14:27 |
| ativelkov | Works for me | 14:27 |
| markwash | great, thanks | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | markwash: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98750/ (Fake Keystone) could you open that your comment about performance concerns a bit? Would be nice to get the thoughts of the group as well! (If/when the framework topic is done for now) | 14:27 |
| markwash | jokke_: I think I maybe didn't mean to say "performance" | 14:28 |
| markwash | s/performance/behavior/ seems like what I must have meant | 14:28 |
| markwash | sorry | 14:28 |
| markwash | okay, I think we can just move more discussion to #openstack-glance | 14:29 |
| markwash | thanks everybody | 14:29 |
| markwash | #endmeeting | 14:30 |
| arnaud | so | 14:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 19 14:30:04 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-06-19-14.00.html | 14:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-06-19-14.00.txt | 14:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-06-19-14.00.log.html | 14:30 |
| markwash | oh | 14:30 |
| markwash | darnit | 14:30 |
| arnaud | :) | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | markwash: ok, I was planning to implement as small subset as possible and when it comes up the wanted user/password pairs and tokens in memory | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | ah | 14:30 |
| arnaud | for those still here: the glance meetup location and date is official: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-juno-mid-cycle-meeting | 14:31 |
| markwash | arnaud: yay! | 14:31 |
| markwash | thanks arnaud and ashwini for putting this together | 14:31 |
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| bswartz | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 19 15:00:12 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| bswartz | hello all | 15:00 |
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| scottda | hi | 15:00 |
| vponomaryov | hi | 15:00 |
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| ameade | hey | 15:01 |
| cknight | Hi | 15:01 |
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| xyang1 | hi | 15:01 |
| rraja | hi | 15:01 |
| yportnova | hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | okay! | 15:01 |
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| bswartz | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:01 |
| rushil | Hi | 15:01 |
| bswartz | the agenda is short | 15:02 |
| dustins | hello! | 15:02 |
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| bswartz | we start with dev status | 15:02 |
| bswartz | #topic dev status | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "dev status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| vponomaryov | Dev status: | 15:02 |
| vponomaryov | 1) All unittests now use module 'mock', dependency on 'mox' was removed. | 15:02 |
| bswartz | and you all can yell at me for not doing reviews :-( | 15:02 |
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| vponomaryov | 2) Share server details and dependencies for it | 15:02 |
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| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/implement-backend-details-in-drivers | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/100915 | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | #link https://review.openstack.org/100536 | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | 3) Manila's docs | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | bp: #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/manila-documentation | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | status: Client side was updated. Server side is ready for review/merge: | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: #link https://review.openstack.org/98462 | 15:03 |
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| vponomaryov | 4) CI job updates "openstack-infra/config" project | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | gerrit: | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | 4.1) #link https://review.openstack.org/97747 | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | 4.2) #link https://review.openstack.org/99933 | 15:03 |
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| tbarron | hi | 15:03 |
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| vponomaryov | TODO: | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | a) Finish 'details' chain of commits (2); | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | b) After merge of manila's docs update (3) - set CI job "gate-manila-docs" as votable; | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | c) Update ci scripts in manila's repo after merge of fix to tempest's jobs (4.1); | 15:03 |
| vponomaryov | d) After merge of devstack job commit (4.2) to config project - enable its votability if it is OK; | 15:03 |
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| bswartz | thanks vponomaryov | 15:04 |
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| vponomaryov | that's all | 15:04 |
| bswartz | we need to get things merged -- I've been slow this last week because I've had another high priority thing to work on | 15:04 |
| bswartz | I will get to reviews by tomorrow | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | any questions about the above? | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | oh and before I forget | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | #topic manila core team | 15:05 |
| csaba | hi | 15:05 |
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| nileshb | Hi Ben | 15:06 |
| bswartz | welcome xyang1 to manila core | 15:06 |
| xyang1 | thanks! | 15:06 |
| bswartz | the announcement went out earlier this week | 15:06 |
| yportnova | Congrats xyang1! | 15:06 |
| nileshb | Congrats xyang1 | 15:06 |
| bswartz | more reviewers helps spread the review load around | 15:06 |
| xyang1 | thanks everyone! | 15:07 |
| dustins | xyang1: congratulations! | 15:07 |
| bswartz | and more core team members means that we can follow the correct procedure and not +2/A our own changes | 15:07 |
| bswartz | vponomaryov: I'm looking at you | 15:07 |
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| bswartz | anyone else who wants to join the core team, make sure you're doing lots of reviews and contributing where you can | 15:08 |
| deepakcs | xyang1, congrats | 15:08 |
| bswartz | okay next topic | 15:08 |
| bswartz | #topic Source level debugging in IDEs | 15:08 |
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| bswartz | cknight: you're up | 15:09 |
| cknight | OK | 15:09 |
| cknight | I want to enable source-level debugging in Manila. | 15:09 |
| cknight | Code changes are required to add the debugger connection call and to prevent event let from greening the thread library. | 15:09 |
| cknight | There is precedent from Keystone and Glance, and I am adapting those earlier commits as closely as possible to Manila. | 15:09 |
| cknight | I can set breakpoints in any of the three Manila processes. | 15:09 |
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| cknight | We're doing more testing today before sharing more widely. Any questions as to why or how we're doing this? | 15:10 |
| bswartz | so first question: does anyone besides cknight actually use an IDE to debug manila already? | 15:10 |
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| bswartz | I'm curious to know if there are alternate solutions to this in existence | 15:10 |
| dustins | bswartz: I most likely will when I get into the thick of it | 15:10 |
| ameade | i'd like to | 15:10 |
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| cknight | dustins: let's see if we can step through the test code as well | 15:11 |
| dustins | cknight: agreed | 15:11 |
| ameade | i know there are folks who do it outside of an IDE but that is much more cumbersome | 15:11 |
| rushil | ameade: +1 | 15:11 |
| ameade | should cknight make a blueprint for this? | 15:11 |
| dustins | I like my IDE to be my one stop shop for all things dev, including debugging | 15:11 |
| cknight | Debugging is faster in an IDE, and learning the code is also faster since you can inspect everything at runtime. | 15:11 |
| bswartz | okay it sounds like nobody currently does this, and I think it's safe to say everyone would like to be able to I'd like to persue this approach | 15:12 |
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| bswartz | #link http://tropicaldevel.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/debugging-openstack-with-pycharm-and-pydevd/ | 15:12 |
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| cknight | I'm testing the changes in PyCharm, but it should also work in Eclipse/PyDev. | 15:12 |
| bswartz | cknight please create a BP and submit the changes against that when they are ready | 15:13 |
| ameade | what's our blueprint process, still just through launchpad? | 15:13 |
| bswartz | ameade: yes still LP | 15:13 |
| cknight | Will do | 15:13 |
| deepakcs | bswartz, I don't use IDE, but would like to start using it, if enuf documentation is available on how to make the most of it, esp debugging | 15:13 |
| bswartz | deepakcs: the top 2 I'm aware of are PyCharm, and Eclipse (PyDev) | 15:14 |
| bswartz | Eclipse is free and PyCharm is not, fwiw | 15:14 |
| deepakcs | cknight, so when u debug, are u in a source-only setup or devstack like setup ? | 15:14 |
| cknight | Devstack, but can step through source. | 15:14 |
| * deepakcs thought that Eclipse is very resource hungry/bulky | 15:14 | |
| * bswartz loves Eclipse | 15:15 | |
| deepakcs | cknight, so it would be great if you can provide steps in a wikipage on how to use devstack in a IDE w/ debugging | 15:15 |
| cknight | bswartz: then you can test the solution in Eclipse | 15:15 |
| cknight | deepakcs: yes | 15:15 |
| deepakcs | cknight, cool | 15:15 |
| vbellur | fwiw, pycharm provides free licenses to open source projects - we might be able to get from the openstack pool or get it separately for manila too | 15:16 |
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| bswartz | vbellur: good to know | 15:16 |
| cknight | Anything else on this topic? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | cknight: I don't think you'll see any resistence to this change | 15:17 |
| bswartz | mostly just people asking how to make it work | 15:17 |
| cknight | Cool, thanks. Glad to help everyone do it. | 15:17 |
| bswartz | #topic open dicussion | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open dicussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:18 | |
| bswartz | okay that was the last thing on the agenda | 15:18 |
| bswartz | anyone have anything else? | 15:18 |
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| scottda | Are there plans to move blueprints from launchpad to gerrit? | 15:18 |
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| bswartz | scottda: I don't have any | 15:19 |
| vponomaryov | scottda: you mean manila-specs? | 15:19 |
| scottda | yes, manila-specs | 15:19 |
| bswartz | if someone sees a good reason to we could start doing it that way | 15:19 |
| scottda | OK, just checking. Aside from the fact that it requires work, it seems like a good thing. | 15:19 |
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| scottda | It would allow feedback on blueprints at a more detailed level. And it seems to be the way the rest of Openstack is going. | 15:20 |
| bswartz | scottda: I see the advantages, but it's also a heavier process -- I'd rather not fix something that isn't broken | 15:20 |
| scottda | Sure, not a big deal. I was just curious. | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | scottda: We don't have so much Blueprints for now, I think it is for nearest future | 15:20 |
| vponomaryov | it is NOT for nearest future | 15:20 |
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| scottda | ok | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | anyone feel strongly about moving to manila-specs instead of the current Launchpad process for BPs? | 15:21 |
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| bswartz | if not.... | 15:21 |
| xyang1 | bswartz: It's nice to have, but not required for now | 15:21 |
| deepakcs | xyang1, +1 | 15:22 |
| scottda | +1 | 15:22 |
| scottda | Just something to keep in mind for the future, that's all. | 15:22 |
| ameade | also, just fyi for everyone, openstack has a PyCharm license for anyone who is a contributor | 15:22 |
| xyang1 | scottda: agreed | 15:22 |
| bswartz | #agreed manila will continue to use LP for BPs for the foreseeable future | 15:22 |
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| bswartz | ameade: you may get questions from people on how to access those licenses | 15:23 |
| ameade | they need to contact apmelton | 15:23 |
| nileshb | I don't think we need to go for specs at this point of time | 15:23 |
| ameade | nileshb: +1 | 15:23 |
| bswartz | is PyCharm open source? | 15:24 |
| nileshb | blueprints should be sufficient | 15:24 |
| apmelton | bswartz: there's a community edition | 15:24 |
| apmelton | bswartz: we have a pro license though | 15:24 |
| rushil | bswartz: I don't think so | 15:24 |
| bswartz | yeah I get that it's free as in beer for us, but is it also open source? | 15:24 |
| ameade | nope | 15:24 |
| apmelton | yes https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/python | 15:24 |
| ameade | oh nice | 15:25 |
| bswartz | oh, so PyCharm is made by the same people that make IntelliJ? | 15:25 |
| bswartz | that's something I didn't know, but isn't surprising | 15:25 |
| dustins | bswartz: Yup, JetBrains if memory serves | 15:25 |
| ameade | apmelton: perhaps it's that time of year where you should email the mailing list saying u have the license lol | 15:25 |
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| apmelton | ameade: I think I'll be renewing the license in august, so I will likely do it then | 15:26 |
| bswartz | okay anything else from anyone? | 15:26 |
| bswartz | otherwise I think we can wrap up | 15:26 |
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| bswartz | okay | 15:27 |
| bswartz | thanks all | 15:27 |
| xyang1 | thanks | 15:27 |
| vponomaryov | thanks | 15:27 |
| deepakcs | bye | 15:27 |
| dustins | thanks! | 15:27 |
| bswartz | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
| scottda | bye | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:27 | |
| tbarron | thanks | 15:27 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 19 15:27:23 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| ameade | see ya | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-06-19-15.00.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-06-19-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2014/manila.2014-06-19-15.00.log.html | 15:27 |
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| vkozhukalov | guys, are you ready | 15:59 |
| vkozhukalov | ? | 15:59 |
| vkozhukalov | #startmeeting Fuel | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 19 16:00:05 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vkozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' | 16:00 |
| vkozhukalov | #chair vkozhukalov | 16:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: vkozhukalov | 16:00 |
| dpamio | Hi | 16:00 |
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| bogdando | hi | 16:00 |
| vkozhukalov | Ok guys and girls, hello everyone | 16:00 |
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| vkozhukalov | who is here? | 16:00 |
| agordeev2 | o/ | 16:00 |
| mihgen | hello | 16:00 |
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| Tatyanka_Leontov | hi all | 16:01 |
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| vkramskikh | hi | 16:01 |
| angdraug | hi all, mihgen do you have any announcements for us? | 16:01 |
| vkozhukalov | and as usually agenda is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
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| vkozhukalov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda | 16:01 |
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| mattymo | hi all | 16:02 |
| mihgen | yep I do a bit | 16:02 |
| mihgen | I'll try to be short this time | 16:02 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:02 | |
| mihgen | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/5.1_Release_Schedule | 16:02 |
| evgeniyl | hi | 16:02 |
| mihgen | we finished first iteration in 5.1 | 16:02 |
| mihgen | results are pretty good overall | 16:02 |
| mihgen | (in spite of anything )) | 16:02 |
| mihgen | we will go over features status | 16:03 |
| angdraug | demo of upgrades was quite impressive :) | 16:03 |
| meow-nofer | slowpokes, I've spent an hour for doing presentation :) | 16:03 |
| mattymo | yeah it's weird to see something work on top of my code :) | 16:03 |
| vkozhukalov | ok, let's go through statuses | 16:03 |
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| mihgen | yep, actually I'm thinking about running public demos at the end of every iteration instead of IRC meeting | 16:03 |
| mihgen | replacing IRC meeting on webex demo | 16:03 |
| angdraug | +1 on that | 16:04 |
| mihgen | once in two weeks | 16:04 |
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| vkozhukalov | that would be great according to the fact that we have more and more people contributing to Fuel | 16:04 |
| mihgen | ok. I'll ask in ML then and see how it's perceived | 16:05 |
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| mattymo | it breaks the IRC tradition but I believe some people could be persuaded | 16:05 |
| mihgen | ok folks another important thing in the release is bugs status | 16:05 |
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| vkozhukalov | #topic bug status | 16:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug status (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:05 | |
| angdraug | bug squashing day this week wasn't a full success | 16:05 |
| mihgen | frankly I was expecting better results for bug squashing day | 16:05 |
| mihgen | yep | 16:05 |
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| angdraug | we cleaned up bugs in 5.1 a little, but didn't really fix many of them | 16:06 |
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| mihgen | unfortunately python & ui teams didn't work on it, library was good and qa is best in adding more bugs) | 16:06 |
| angdraug | drop in number is mainly due to cleaning out old incomplete bugs | 16:06 |
| meow-nofer | I guess one of the things was nobody knew it was bug squashing day | 16:06 |
| mihgen | angdraug: you are the primarily assigned to bugs in this release | 16:06 |
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| meow-nofer | I thing we need to loudly announce these things the day before | 16:06 |
| meow-nofer | at least | 16:06 |
| vkozhukalov | maybe we need to change the format of bug squashing day a little bit | 16:07 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer: it was announced multiple times | 16:07 |
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| mihgen | I'll point you to IRC logs, to openstack-dev logs and I was personally walking in the room loudly speaking about it.. | 16:07 |
| meow-nofer | mihgen, first time I heard about it was that day's morning | 16:07 |
| mihgen | I'm sorry that you didn't hear | 16:07 |
| meow-nofer | mihgen, and that's not only me | 16:07 |
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| angdraug | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037746.html | 16:07 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer: what kind of notification we should do then? | 16:08 |
| meow-nofer | mihgen, sorry, will do better next time | 16:08 |
| vkozhukalov | maybe sitting around the table and having kind of nano summit would be more impressive and motivating | 16:08 |
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| meow-nofer | mihgen, I don't know, maybe go through bugs the day before | 16:08 |
| mihgen | bug squashing day is for bug squashing | 16:08 |
| mattymo | meow-nofer, we organized a fuel-library bug triage at the start of the day and proceeded from there | 16:08 |
| meow-nofer | mihgen, and then kick the crap out of them on next day | 16:08 |
| vkramskikh | i think it is a bad idea anyway to interrupt all current tasks and go fix the bugs | 16:08 |
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| mihgen | vkramskikh: disagree completely | 16:09 |
| mihgen | there are still 350 bugs now | 16:09 |
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| mattymo | vkramskikh, too bad. we need to do bugs at some point mid-cycle. not after feature freeze | 16:09 |
| mihgen | if we don't squash them | 16:09 |
| mihgen | then it means we don't release | 16:09 |
| mihgen | so stop all of your activities when bug squash day comes, and start fixing bugs | 16:09 |
| angdraug | fixing bugs when they are found is much easier than 3 months later | 16:09 |
| mihgen | it's common practice, and openstack follows it strictly | 16:09 |
| angdraug | we should not keep big backlog of high priority bugs | 16:09 |
| mihgen | so my hard opinion on this - let's do it this way | 16:10 |
| dpyzhov | vkramskikh, meow-nofer we will have another bug squash next Tuesday. Let’s do our best | 16:10 |
| angdraug | low priority, fine, but we have over 100 high&critical bugs | 16:10 |
| mihgen | if you don't want to do, your features will be stopped from accepting | 16:10 |
| meow-nofer | mihgen, I agree, but let's start with triaging the day before or in the morning | 16:10 |
| mihgen | breaking more and more master is unacceptable, seriously | 16:10 |
| vkramskikh | ok, we'll try to do our best | 16:10 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer: we can do it, yep | 16:10 |
| meow-nofer | mihgen, I think this will do the trick and swith our brains to happiness | 16:10 |
| vkramskikh | it was really unclear what it means | 16:10 |
| mihgen | you can dedicate part of the day for bug triaging then | 16:10 |
| mihgen | and next day for squashing, for example | 16:11 |
| mihgen | vkramskikh: unclear what? | 16:11 |
| mihgen | so my proposal is to do squashing on Tu | 16:11 |
| vkramskikh | mihgen: unclear that we should stop all other activities | 16:11 |
| xarses | I think we need to have more time set aside for sustaining and take time out of every week, to work bugs | 16:11 |
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| vkozhukalov | ok, guys, let's move on, we have plenty of other topics | 16:12 |
| mihgen | and keep doing it every week unless we meet a better situation which I'll allow angdraug to decide whether it's good or not, as I'm taking vacation for next 2 weeks | 16:12 |
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| mihgen | vkramskikh: sorry if it was not clear in the email, but I believe it was | 16:12 |
| bogdando | just for the note, it would be drastically less bugs for squash day (at least by its status updates and triaging part), if *every one* of us would have opened and read it and comment or even RCA by the snapshot logs - as far as he recieve an email notification | 16:12 |
| angdraug | my primary criteria of good is below 20 high priority bugs open at any time | 16:13 |
| bogdando | every such an update could take 2-5 min of your daily time | 16:13 |
| mihgen | vkramskikh: if something is unclear from email, there is Reply button and you can ask question ;) | 16:13 |
| mihgen | ok let's move on | 16:13 |
| angdraug | moving on to code reviews? | 16:13 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic code reviews status | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "code reviews status (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:14 | |
| mihgen | angdraug: you will speak? | 16:14 |
| angdraug | we have a huge backlog of unreviewed commits | 16:14 |
| angdraug | I have posted a link to review inbox that helps prioritize them | 16:14 |
| angdraug | our ratio of reviews vs posting new patches is wrong and we need to find a way to do more code reviews | 16:14 |
| dpyzhov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:%255Estackforge/fuel-.*+is:open,n,z | 16:14 |
| vkozhukalov | dpyzhov: thx | 16:15 |
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| angdraug | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel#Development_related_links | 16:15 |
| xarses | the link from angdraug is really neat, you guys should try it | 16:15 |
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| dpyzhov | angdraug: wow | 16:16 |
| angdraug | if you have gerrit reviews where you are reviewer, make sure you go through more of them in a day than you submit your own patches | 16:16 |
| angdraug | especially if it's review requests from outside fuel core | 16:17 |
| mihgen | angdraug: yep, that's a cool thing | 16:17 |
| vkozhukalov | angdraug: +1 for special treatment of reviews from outside | 16:17 |
| angdraug | people from outside core have much harder time in any project, including fuel | 16:18 |
| angdraug | so if you have an external review in your inbox, start with that | 16:18 |
| angdraug | good karma will catch up to you when that contributor fixes your bugs for you | 16:18 |
| angdraug | I'm done about code reviews | 16:19 |
| vkozhukalov | angdraug: thx | 16:19 |
| vkozhukalov | moving on | 16:19 |
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| vkozhukalov | #topic Upgrade 5.0 -> 5.0.1 | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Upgrade 5.0 -> 5.0.1 (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:20 | |
| evgeniyl | Hi | 16:20 |
| evgeniyl | Here is demo of fuel upgrades + OpenStack patching features | 16:20 |
| evgeniyl | #link https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7I3b5vI7ZYXYVlXYldoc1Z0Q0U/edit | 16:20 |
| vkozhukalov | evgeniyl: great | 16:20 |
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| evgeniyl | There are several unresolved issues for upgrades, like cobbler data migration, I forget to mention that we need to run puppet on the host system to upgrade fuelcilent and dockerctl. | 16:20 |
| evgeniyl | It should not take much time and looks easy | 16:21 |
| evgeniyl | Our QA team is testing upgrades 5.0 -> current master | 16:21 |
| evgeniyl | Also there are no patches which related to upgrades on review | 16:22 |
| evgeniyl | We have only part of make system (for openstack pacthing) which is not in the master | 16:22 |
| mihgen | evgeniyl: that's cool. we may want to go with idea of distributing upgrade as ISO.. if bundle so large anyway | 16:22 |
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| vkozhukalov | mihgen: how large? | 16:23 |
| evgeniyl | yeah, actually current version of build system builds iso and then retrieves all necessary data from upgrade | 16:23 |
| mihgen | 2gb for upgrade tarball is large | 16:24 |
| evgeniyl | over 2G | 16:24 |
| evgeniyl | s/from upgrade/for upgrade tar-ball/ | 16:24 |
| mattymo | I really think we should consider after 5.1 ways to adapt this upgrade to include a manifest of files to "copy from this previous major release" | 16:24 |
| xarses | unless we can get the upgrades as diff's the only resonable option is having the install ISO double as upgrade media | 16:25 |
| xarses | anyway I like that idea that you can just pop in the newer iso and it will read the migration data | 16:25 |
| mihgen | evgeniyl: we need to think about optimizations | 16:25 |
| evgeniyl | I think we should not implement diff upgrades, it will be difficult to support | 16:25 |
| mihgen | xarses: yep | 16:25 |
| xarses | seems elegant almost | 16:25 |
| mattymo | xarses, this is doable and I know a lot about what's needed, but it's going to be a ton of customized anaconda work | 16:26 |
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| mattymo | it's better to fake a real upgrade from media and still do it in a special boot from disk | 16:26 |
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| angdraug | we can just use iso instead of tar | 16:26 |
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| angdraug | all you need is a conversion script mounts that iso, and pulls the files out of it in the same order ugprade script expects it | 16:27 |
| mihgen | angdraug: that's what we are talking about with xarses | 16:27 |
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| xarses | Like i said, if we need to ship a 2gb upgrade tarball, then we will get frowned at. People will want to know why its not a diff. If we have the upgrade also be a clean install method, then the issue is swept under the rug | 16:27 |
| mihgen | ok evgeniyl let's consider this | 16:28 |
| xarses | and we get to avoid creating diff tarballs. Which do we prefer | 16:28 |
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| vkozhukalov | #action evgeniyl do research using iso instead of tarball | 16:28 |
| vkozhukalov | moving on | 16:29 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Patching of OpenStack | 16:29 |
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| evgeniyl | I'm not sure if Igor here. | 16:29 |
| vkozhukalov | who has status details about this? | 16:29 |
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| evgeniyl | I can provide status update | 16:29 |
| vkozhukalov | evgeniyl: go ahead | 16:29 |
| evgeniyl | We were able to run patching process, also Igor tested rollback today | 16:30 |
| evgeniyl | We have part of make system which on review now | 16:30 |
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| evgeniyl | As Igor told we have some problem with upgrading of centos + nova installation | 16:31 |
| evgeniyl | Centos + netutron works fine | 16:31 |
| vkozhukalov | evgeniyl: does rallback work? | 16:31 |
| evgeniyl | Yeah, it works | 16:31 |
| vkozhukalov | evgeniyl: thx | 16:31 |
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| vkozhukalov | moving on | 16:31 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic LSI | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "LSI (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:32 | |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/lsi-raid-controllers | 16:32 |
| meow-nofer | we had a meeting with LSI guys | 16:32 |
| mihgen | anyone from LSI team around to get update? | 16:32 |
| meow-nofer | on if they can integrate into Fuel as a plugin | 16:32 |
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| mihgen | meow-nofer: oh please provide update if no one is here | 16:32 |
| meow-nofer | I did write some meeting notes to openstack-dev | 16:32 |
| mihgen | yep I've seen. I didn't see code yet.. | 16:33 |
| angdraug | meow-nofer: we have 1 iteration left before feature freeze | 16:33 |
| mihgen | in gerrit | 16:33 |
| meow-nofer | so, there is no real way for both us and them to provide fully-functional Fuel plugin on this release | 16:33 |
| mihgen | yep risk is very high for skipping it out, design doc is huge | 16:33 |
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| meow-nofer | but we can at least try to simplify our future integration, I've already provided two ways this can be done | 16:33 |
| angdraug | I think given the timing, making a full plugin out of it in 5.1 is impossible | 16:34 |
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| mihgen | I saw the nailgun agent tweaks and didn't like it - I think it should be in separate file, not changing agent with inclusions of lsi external commands over it, mixing it all | 16:34 |
| meow-nofer | either they're doing it like "half-plugin", which is much easier for us to work with, but also seems llike a very ugly solution | 16:34 |
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| mihgen | ok let's move on, we need to have code first anyway to make a final decision | 16:35 |
| meow-nofer | or they are just writing their code in a way it will be simple to move into plugin | 16:35 |
| vkozhukalov | ok, status is quite clear, very risky | 16:35 |
| meow-nofer | yep | 16:35 |
| vkozhukalov | moving on | 16:35 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Mellanox | 16:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mellanox (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:35 | |
| nuritv | Hi | 16:35 |
| nuritv | Im from Mellanox | 16:36 |
| meow-nofer | vkozhukalov, you skipped plugins, I moved them upper | 16:36 |
| meow-nofer | oh, nevermind | 16:36 |
| vkozhukalov | nuritv: hi | 16:36 |
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| meow-nofer | nuritv, hello | 16:36 |
| nuritv | so, we are progressing with our integration | 16:36 |
| vkozhukalov | meow-nofer: sorry, next report will be your | 16:37 |
| mihgen | I've seen packages ready? | 16:37 |
| nuritv | ok sorry | 16:37 |
| meow-nofer | nuritv, just continue | 16:37 |
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| nuritv | mihgen: yes, we have CentOS packages ready | 16:37 |
| angdraug | nuritv: you mentioned that all packages required for your integration are asl/bsd licensed? | 16:37 |
| nuritv | we will have Ubuntu shortly | 16:37 |
| nuritv | bsd/ apach2 | 16:38 |
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| mihgen | nuritv: I hope we are not gonna install them by default on all systems? | 16:38 |
| mattymo | nuritv, I saw binaries. Will you be able to submit srpms too? | 16:38 |
| vkozhukalov | nuritv: have you written a spec for your feature? | 16:38 |
| angdraug | are we pulling them into our mirrors or implementing a way to pull external package repositories into fuel master? | 16:39 |
| nuritv | mattymo: no, only when Mllanox drivers are enabled | 16:39 |
| mihgen | only on those which have mellanox hardware, could be discovered by agent | 16:39 |
| mattymo | angdraug, I believe we'll ship them with Fuel but will be an optional install (like Ceph) | 16:39 |
| nuritv | vkozhukalov: we have a fully design document by aviramb | 16:40 |
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| angdraug | with ceph, we're running a 6-month old LTS version thereof | 16:40 |
| vkozhukalov | nuritv: is it public? could you share a link? | 16:40 |
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| vkozhukalov | nuritv: i mean for the spec | 16:41 |
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| angdraug | are mellanox packages LTS? as in, major upgrades are not expected too often in the future? | 16:41 |
| nuritv | #link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10oynt0-mr_bsOuU1hvPLQZgXIjNzjkloGx1CI01XVL8/edit?disco=AAAAAJprRQI# | 16:41 |
| vkozhukalov | nuritv: great, thx | 16:42 |
| mihgen | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/mellanox-features-support | 16:42 |
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| vkozhukalov | nuritv: it is important to have links in irc log | 16:42 |
| vkozhukalov | moving on | 16:42 |
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| vkozhukalov | #topic Nailgun plugins | 16:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nailgun plugins (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:42 | |
| vkozhukalov | meow-nofer: your turn | 16:43 |
| meow-nofer | so, I did a little presentation on current plugins state, but it's more for a speech, not reading | 16:43 |
| meow-nofer | https://drive.google.com/a/mirantis.com/file/d/0B5VvW7EEta1WbnMwREEzVlFSQzg/edit?usp=sharing | 16:43 |
| mihgen | folks let's be prepared for your topic, pre-record stuff you gonna write here, we need to move faster - too many topics to cover | 16:43 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://drive.google.com/a/mirantis.com/file/d/0B5VvW7EEta1WbnMwREEzVlFSQzg/edit?usp=sharing | 16:43 |
| meow-nofer | as for now, we are together with OSCI team testing new versions of packages | 16:43 |
| vkozhukalov | meow-nofer: will take a look at your presentation | 16:44 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer: fun presentation :) | 16:44 |
| meow-nofer | I'm going to install Ceph from "plugin" | 16:44 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer: can you allow comments there? | 16:44 |
| vkozhukalov | meow-nofer: any other comments? | 16:44 |
| meow-nofer | mihgen, sure | 16:44 |
| meow-nofer | mihgen, ready | 16:44 |
| meow-nofer | so | 16:45 |
| vkozhukalov | meow-nofer: are you done? | 16:45 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer: we need pieces merged in 5.1 | 16:45 |
| mihgen | let's move on | 16:45 |
| meow-nofer | gotta make working ISO, gotta install ceph and then will work with Vitaly on UI patrt | 16:45 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer: expecting design specs from you on this | 16:45 |
| meow-nofer | also, working on specs for 5.1 | 16:45 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Monitoring | 16:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Monitoring (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:45 | |
| meow-nofer | mihgen, yep, I'm on it | 16:45 |
| mihgen | meow-nofer: ok thanks | 16:45 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/monitoring-system | 16:45 |
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| mihgen | akislitsky not here | 16:46 |
| mihgen | let's move on | 16:46 |
| meow-nofer | if akislitsky is not here, I can do some update on this, too | 16:46 |
| vkozhukalov | looks like here is not here | 16:46 |
| meow-nofer | but not so much | 16:46 |
| meow-nofer | yep | 16:46 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Neutron ML2 | 16:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Neutron ML2 (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:46 | |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/ml2-neutron | 16:47 |
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| vkozhukalov | xarses: here? | 16:47 |
| xarses | yes | 16:47 |
| xarses | I've re-written the corosync resources from our old neutron plugin into a composition layer than can be cleanly applied to upstream puppet-neutron module. I'm currently stuck trying to get it to cleanly handle dependencies. As everyone who works on this notes, it sucks to get right. | 16:47 |
| xarses | I'd like dilyin and xenolog (and anyone else) to look over https://github.com/xarses/fuel-library/compare/bp;ml2-neutron?expand=1 and see if they can help find the problem. I will create ML topic with more information on how to test. | 16:47 |
| xarses | We need to agree on how to deal with sanatize_network_config. As it stands we can't use it in the upstream module with out creating a composition layer to plug it back in, or we won't be able to maintain upstream. The main issue I have with maintaining it is that it is its self a composition and config generation layer that is embedded in ruby that no one expects for and its results are only available at runtime. | 16:47 |
| vkozhukalov | xarses: your typing is really good | 16:48 |
| xarses | pre-wrote =) | 16:48 |
| angdraug | he came prepared, see above :) | 16:48 |
| mihgen | sanitize or how you call is really under concern | 16:48 |
| angdraug | another problem with it is that it overrides all neutron settings from both puppet-neutron and neutron.conf | 16:49 |
| vkozhukalov | guys, any questions on ML2? | 16:49 |
| mihgen | we need more people to discuss it | 16:49 |
| angdraug | #link https://review.openstack.org/99807 | 16:49 |
| mihgen | xarses: link to design spec pls | 16:49 |
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| mihgen | angdraug: thansk | 16:49 |
| angdraug | #link https://github.com/xarses/fuel-library/compare/bp;ml2-neutron?expand=1 | 16:49 |
| xarses | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99807/ | 16:50 |
| mihgen | ok I don't have questions, we just need to read and decide in spec | 16:50 |
| vkozhukalov | moving? | 16:50 |
| mihgen | yep | 16:50 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic Multiple cluster networks | 16:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Multiple cluster networks (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:50 | |
| angdraug | rmoe: here? | 16:50 |
| xarses | I haven't started re-plugging the rest of the module into fuel because we haven't decided direction for sanitize | 16:50 |
| rmoe | yep | 16:50 |
| mihgen | xarses: let immediately know if you have further issues, as we may need to run another plan | 16:50 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/multiple-cluster-networks | 16:50 |
| xarses | but once we agree it should only take a day to workout | 16:51 |
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| angdraug | rmoe: you're up | 16:51 |
| rmoe | I've agreed after talking with Alexey Kasatkin to rework the API, but I haven't had a chance to start implementing that because I've been dealing with a criticcal customer issue | 16:51 |
| angdraug | how much work you think is there? | 16:52 |
| mihgen | rmoe: actually this feature is low priority | 16:52 |
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| mihgen | we really need to squash bugs | 16:52 |
| rmoe | yeah | 16:52 |
| rmoe | bug-squashing day also delayed my progress :) | 16:52 |
| mihgen | so out of other tasks, preference is for bugs definitely | 16:52 |
| rmoe | ok | 16:52 |
| mihgen | thanks | 16:52 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic HA improvements | 16:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "HA improvements (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:52 | |
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| mihgen | holser: will u provide update? | 16:53 |
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| holser | galera ocf is ready, it’s on review | 16:53 |
| holser | I am trying to wrap up and update blueprint for other improvements | 16:54 |
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| vkozhukalov | holser: could you share a link for review? | 16:54 |
| holser | that’s about Galera HA improvements | 16:54 |
| holser | sure | 16:54 |
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| holser | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95764/ | 16:54 |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95764/ | 16:55 |
| holser | xenolog is going to remove shadow in another review | 16:55 |
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| holser | but for now this review has both … | 16:55 |
| xarses | holser: xenolog if we remove shadow from galera, should we remove it from neutron? | 16:55 |
| holser | Galera and cs_shadow removal | 16:55 |
| xarses | will maybe fix some of my issues I have | 16:56 |
| holser | xarses, yeah | 16:56 |
| xarses | If so, do you have a review for me to look at | 16:56 |
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| holser | you can use my review as it removes from all manifests | 16:56 |
| xarses | specificcally if we change the corosync cluster config so I can test the same | 16:56 |
| holser | yep | 16:56 |
| vkozhukalov | ok guys, 3 minutes | 16:57 |
| holser | I have finished | 16:57 |
| vkozhukalov | #topic image based provisioning | 16:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "image based provisioning (Meeting topic: Fuel)" | 16:57 | |
| vkozhukalov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95575/ | 16:57 |
| vkozhukalov | here is spec | 16:57 |
| vkozhukalov | status is | 16:57 |
| vkozhukalov | i've almost finished partitioning part of fuel_agent and working on building bootstrap image with built in agent | 16:58 |
| vkozhukalov | agordeev2: is working on migrating cobbler snippets to cloud-init | 16:59 |
| agordeev2 | my current status: about 50% of snippets replacements with cloud-init based things done for ubuntu. Expecting to finish them all just in few days later. Then will switch to centos. | 16:59 |
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| angdraug | and time | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | agordeev2: great | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | and we have just two small pieces of functionality | 16:59 |
| vkozhukalov | 1) is downloading images | 16:59 |
| xenolog | xarses, yes, I working on it | 17:00 |
| vkozhukalov | 2) is prepare configdrive | 17:00 |
| angdraug | let's move other discussion to #fuel-dev as usual | 17:00 |
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| mihgen | vkozhukalov: thanks | 17:00 |
| mihgen | looking forward to see pieces merged | 17:00 |
| vkozhukalov | and another point is we need to add image based provision driver to astute | 17:00 |
| vkozhukalov | ok thx everyone | 17:00 |
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| mihgen | let's close meeting other folks might wait | 17:00 |
| mihgen | thanks folks | 17:00 |
| vkozhukalov | #endmeeting Fuel | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 19 17:00:54 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-06-19-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-06-19-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fuel/2014/fuel.2014-06-19-16.00.log.html | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | Righto, lets start the OSSG meeting then :) | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | #startmeeting openstack security group | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 19 17:01:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hyakuhei. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_security_group' | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | Hey everybody! | 17:01 |
| malini2 | greetings! | 17:01 |
| tmcpeak | hey! | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | malini2: In the house! | 17:01 |
| hyakuhei | Roll Call if you please! | 17:01 |
| nkinder_ | hey all! | 17:01 |
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| dg_ | Hey | 17:01 |
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| tmcpeak | happpy Thursday | 17:01 |
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| hyakuhei | o/ | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | Quiet one today… | 17:02 |
| CristianF | hi everyone | 17:02 |
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| hyakuhei | Hey CristianF | 17:02 |
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| bdpayne | hi | 17:02 |
| hyakuhei | Hey bdpayne, glad you could make it | 17:03 |
| bdpayne | :-) | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok we’ve got a few people here now. | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Welcome chair6 | 17:03 |
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| chair6 | hi! | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, so - Agenda Items…. | 17:03 |
| dg_ | hi mate | 17:03 |
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| hyakuhei | OSSG Meetup | 17:03 |
| hyakuhei | Security Review Collaboration | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | … what else? | 17:04 |
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| bdpayne | finding more hours in the week for me? :-) | 17:04 |
| nkinder_ | ooh, me too! | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: I got loads of hours going free | 17:04 |
| sriramhere | hello all, sorry i am little late, this is sriram | 17:04 |
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| hyakuhei | I keep them in the vault next to my unicorn stables. | 17:04 |
| hyakuhei | Hey sriramhere | 17:04 |
| chair6 | i call dibs on hyakuheis mystical minutes | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | #topic OSSG Meetup | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSG Meetup (Meeting topic: openstack security group)" | 17:05 | |
| nkinder_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ossg-juno-meetup | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | So as you all should know we’ve got a meetup planned, and it’s in Seattle so even sriramhere can make it! | 17:05 |
| sriramhere | i am indebted! thanks <hyakuhei> | 17:05 |
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| hyakuhei | A few people have put their names down to lead topics but haven’t put descriptions with them | 17:06 |
| bdpayne | I think the location in that etherpad is wrong? | 17:06 |
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| bdpayne | should be at 7th and Pike? | 17:06 |
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| hyakuhei | Yeah that’s _wrong_ | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | 7th n Pike | 17:06 |
| hyakuhei | is correct | 17:06 |
| bdpayne | also, I believe the westin listed is wrong | 17:06 |
| bdpayne | just an fyi for people making travel arangements | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: you missed your true calling as a travel agent! | 17:07 |
| bdpayne | lol | 17:07 |
| tmcpeak | haha | 17:07 |
| chair6 | i'll update that address | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | chair6: I know you’re super busy but as you work in those offices / the city, can you quickly go through and verify please ? | 17:07 |
| hyakuhei | ^^ ty :D | 17:07 |
| bdpayne | staying in Bellevue would just make the whole trip very frustrating | 17:07 |
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| hyakuhei | haha indeed | 17:07 |
| sriramhere | yup, not bellevue, is it 701 Pike? | 17:08 |
| bdpayne | looks like someone is updating the etherpad now | 17:08 |
| chair6 | yup, updated | 17:08 |
| nkinder_ | chair6: thx | 17:08 |
| chair6 | i'll add more details over the next few days | 17:08 |
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| hyakuhei | We’ve got a couple of suggested topics with no leaders and not much interest, namely Security Anti Patterns and Library Audit - Would anyone like to work/lead these? If not I’ll trim them from the agenda... | 17:09 |
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| bdpayne | I vote to trim | 17:09 |
| bdpayne | we have lots of topics | 17:09 |
| sriramhere | Rob, looks like we have a whole lot to cover | 17:09 |
| hyakuhei | That would be my preference | 17:09 |
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| nkinder_ | +1, we have too much already | 17:09 |
| sriramhere | let us try to schedule the ones for now, then add these two if time permits | 17:09 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, we should have more than enough to cover four days | 17:09 |
| sriramhere | +1 to trim | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | but I’m giving people who desperately want to do these things but have been shy thus far the opportunity to speak up | 17:10 |
| hyakuhei | sriramhere: what do you want to do about Fuzz Testing? | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | I'm interested in fuzz testing, I've done some before | 17:10 |
| tmcpeak | we could just get a basic API fuzzer going | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | It’s there as an agenda item at the moment | 17:11 |
| sriramhere | actually, gate test makes more sense than fuzz. i had introduced to add on what is happening at GSOC/ Mark's efforts | 17:11 |
| hyakuhei | With the same number of ‘interested’ people as the other things that we are about to trim | 17:11 |
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| sriramhere | we can prioritize gate testing over fuzzing, since GSOC project may not be ready for adding on to,yet | 17:11 |
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| tmcpeak | sounds good, I'm going to try to do some good homework so we'll be ready to hit the ground running as much as possible on the gate testing | 17:12 |
| sriramhere | tmcpeak, we have other efforts going on now reg fuzzing. API fuzzing is what happenieng over there. a GSOC proj and a BP in submission | 17:12 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, I’ll get trimming after this meeting. | 17:12 |
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| tmcpeak | ahh ok | 17:12 |
| sriramhere | we could ge the BP going if there is enough interest | 17:12 |
| sriramhere | or focus on gate tests | 17:12 |
| sriramhere | i am fine either way | 17:13 |
| bdpayne | a lot of these are relelated... if we trim some I suspect the group on the trimmed items may be interested in focusing on the remaining items | 17:13 |
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| hyakuhei | I’ll email round about confirming you’re coming to the meeting later | 17:13 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: +1 | 17:13 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok | 17:14 |
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| hyakuhei | Anything else related to the meetup people would like to discuss? | 17:14 |
| sriramhere | it would be good to have a schedule or agenda | 17:14 |
| tmcpeak | is everybody planning to stay at Westin? | 17:15 |
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| hyakuhei | Who’s up for an organised social event of some sort (not sure if it would be sponsored) | 17:15 |
| tmcpeak | would be pretty cool if we all stay close | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | sriramhere: sure, after we decide what stays and goes we’ll put the schedule together | 17:15 |
| sriramhere | are we doing 1 project at a time, or many at a time with people diveided in grps | 17:15 |
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| sriramhere | thanks Rob | 17:15 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm up for a social event | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | sriramhere: 2-3 parallel tasks depending on percieved interest and improtance. | 17:15 |
| hyakuhei | *importance | 17:15 |
| sriramhere | ok | 17:16 |
| nkinder_ | tmcpeak: yeah, me too | 17:16 |
| bdpayne | +1 on social | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | ok, not sure what to do, chair6 thoughts? | 17:16 |
| bdpayne | 50 mile bike ride? :-) | 17:16 |
| malini2 | +1 social | 17:16 |
| hyakuhei | bdpayne: That’s a lot, 25 mile mountain bike ride instead? | 17:17 |
| tmcpeak | I'll supervise the bike ride | 17:17 |
| chair6 | i'll update the etherpad with some social event options | 17:17 |
| sriramhere | neat - want a place to hang out, or bike ride, or sightseeing? | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | Sweet, thanks! | 17:17 |
| sriramhere | what do u want? | 17:17 |
| hyakuhei | Hang out / sight seeing I imagine | 17:17 |
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| hyakuhei | sriramhere: can you work with chair6 to come up with some nice options please? | 17:17 |
| sriramhere | sure | 17:17 |
| malini2 | sight seeing +1 | 17:17 |
| CristianF | question referring to gate testing, is static analysis (such as pylint) an option to be analyzed? | 17:17 |
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| sriramhere | i assume this is out of pocket (not like those evening events at the summit :) ) | 17:18 |
| tmcpeak | I'm not familiar with Pylint, but I'd like to analyze all options | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | CristianF: yes, if we can do smart things regarding false positives | 17:18 |
| bknudson | if pylint for security analysis? | 17:18 |
| hyakuhei | Though I think the PEP/Flake stuff does similarish checks | 17:18 |
| sriramhere | is pylint a bar :-) | 17:18 |
| malini2 | what about penetration testing? | 17:18 |
| * tmcpeak loves penetration testing, but would we have enough time? | 17:19 | |
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| CristianF | yes, pylint has some security test | 17:19 |
| viraptor_ | CristianF: for other projects? nova already defines pylint in tox.ini | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | It’s a pretty drawn out process, we have some pentesters kicking stuff already | 17:19 |
| hyakuhei | we == ‘hp’ | 17:20 |
| dg_ | it would be hard to add pen testing as an automated gate | 17:20 |
| tmcpeak | oh, as a gate? | 17:20 |
| sriramhere | do u guys want to combine pen testing/ fuzz testing? | 17:20 |
| bknudson | seems like anyone could do pen testing and set up CI for it | 17:20 |
| bknudson | external CI | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | what's CI? | 17:21 |
| dg_ | Continuous Integration | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | oh, that CI :) | 17:21 |
| bknudson | the continuous integration and testing | 17:21 |
| tmcpeak | a good pentest is pretty hard to automate | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, lets keep this to Automated gate testing atm, discussion of fuzzing/pentesting can follow | 17:21 |
| CristianF | viraptor_: is pylint a required test for nova commits? or just optional? | 17:21 |
| hyakuhei | no such thing as an automated pentest imho | 17:22 |
| tmcpeak | oh viraptor_ I need to pick your brain later :) | 17:22 |
| sriramhere | +1 for separating pen test from gates | 17:22 |
| hyakuhei | ok, what else on gate tests etc? | 17:22 |
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| tmcpeak | I'm going to try to get a blueprint for that, would appreciate feedback once I get one going | 17:23 |
| viraptor_ | CristianF: I believe it's run but the results are ignored at the momen but I may be wrong | 17:23 |
| hyakuhei | Someone fancy taking an action to verify that ? | 17:24 |
| viraptor_ | pylint? I can check later | 17:24 |
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| hyakuhei | Thanks viraptor_ | 17:25 |
| bknudson | gate-nova-pylint SUCCESS in 18m 26s (non-voting) | 17:25 |
| bknudson | looks like they run it but it's not voting... and it's successful so far | 17:25 |
| hyakuhei | non-voting checks | 17:26 |
| hyakuhei | That’s the ticket :D | 17:26 |
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| malini2 | The cinder file permissions bug -- OSSN would be nice if we could add a test "warn"/report it until such time as fixed and ensure it never comes back accidentally. | 17:26 |
| tmcpeak | cool, so I'll look into Pylint capabilities | 17:26 |
| viraptor_ | there you go :) | 17:26 |
| bknudson | looks like they have a lot of exceptions | 17:26 |
| malini2 | bknudson :-) thanks! | 17:26 |
| bknudson | Is pylint looking for security issues? | 17:27 |
| hyakuhei | malini2: Regression checks are a good idea in general, shuld be added as a code check in the test package for cinder though I think | 17:27 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:27 |
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| viraptor_ | bknudson: not specifically as far as I know, but it does flag stuff that could become a security problem in some cases (like not exact None checks, etc.) | 17:28 |
| viraptor_ | mostly it's coding /style issues though | 17:28 |
| hyakuhei | Can we add checks easily? | 17:29 |
| bknudson | ok, there was some question about whether even the new hacking was a good thing to add at this point in the release | 17:29 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: can you elaborate please? | 17:29 |
| tmcpeak | we could try for Juno and push to K if there is too much pushback | 17:29 |
| bknudson | I'll see if I can find the discussion on -dev | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | To my mind we need to build checks, test them a lot first | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | and then, when we are happy, work with infra to understand how/where they go | 17:30 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: +1 | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | indeed each team may elect to bring them in or ignore them | 17:30 |
| bknudson | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037784.html | 17:30 |
| hyakuhei | that being the case we’ll pick a few of the more security-centric teams to start off with | 17:30 |
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| hyakuhei | bknudson: Thanks for digging that out | 17:31 |
| bknudson | of course pep8 is a voting job so pylint was added nonvoting then that might be ok | 17:31 |
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| bdpayne | cheers! | 17:31 |
| tmcpeak | later bdpayne | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | cya bdpayne | 17:31 |
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| hyakuhei | So long as we are moving in the right direction I’m happy. The anticipation is that our checks will be non voting almost always | 17:31 |
| hyakuhei | at least in the first iterations | 17:31 |
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| bknudson | the tool we ran here (RATS or YASCA or a combo of them) looked for stuff like calling .random() | 17:32 |
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| hyakuhei | We could ideally do with a quick review of tooling available. | 17:32 |
| hyakuhei | I might have someone who can do that. | 17:32 |
| bknudson | but it also had a ton of false positives because it flagged any call to .compile (e.g., re.compile | 17:32 |
| malini2 | BTW, ChristianF and I attended a meeting yesterday where we learned of two devops etherpads, one for keystone: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-keystone-devops and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-summit-ops-enterprise | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | hyakuhei: +1, if you know somebody who knows what is available, I'd love to hear that first | 17:33 |
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| hyakuhei | Ok, I’ll see if I can get half a day of his time to write up some summaries | 17:33 |
| hyakuhei | Though Tbh I see some simpler checks coming first | 17:33 |
| tmcpeak | sounds good | 17:33 |
| malini2 | some of them are security aspects that could modify BP priorities or toss in new ones, while others have documentation element for security book | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | one that raises a flag each time Shell=True | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | each cPickle.loads() | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | etc | 17:34 |
| tmcpeak | chmod 777 | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | exactly | 17:34 |
| bknudson | we could provide hacking checks for those | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | Clever tooling is nice but slow going | 17:34 |
| CristianF | here is a list of the issues that pylint may detect: http://pylint-messages.wikidot.com/all-messages | 17:34 |
| hyakuhei | and noisy | 17:34 |
| malini2 | +1 .. the anti-pattern tests | 17:34 |
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| hyakuhei | Lets start with the most basic | 17:34 |
| bknudson | was the thought to do this in hacking? | 17:35 |
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| hyakuhei | I’m not sure where the most appropriate place would be | 17:35 |
| hyakuhei | Is that ‘hacking’? | 17:35 |
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| bknudson | hacking has a lot of infrastructure and examples so might be easiest | 17:36 |
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| viraptor_ | hacking as in code hacking - these are existing extensions for flake8.... so yeah, checks for 777 would probably belong there | 17:36 |
| bknudson | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/hacking/tree/hacking/checks | 17:36 |
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| nkinder_ | yeah, hacking is probably appropriate | 17:37 |
| viraptor_ | I believe tmcpeak is going to write something about that in his blueprint | 17:37 |
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| tmcpeak | viraptor_: yep, although I'm a little behind on what the options all are, so if we can get a good list, I'd be happy to try to implement a basic check in each to provide options and show how easy or hard they are | 17:37 |
| viraptor_ | good idea | 17:38 |
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| tmcpeak | so I've got Pylint, hacking, .. others? | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | is PEP the same? | 17:38 |
| malini2 | could the hacking list be used across all projects, like an include file? | 17:38 |
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| bknudson | the pep8 check calls hacking | 17:38 |
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| tmcpeak | oh ok cool, and same for flake? | 17:38 |
| viraptor_ | flake8/hacking, pylint, pep8 is part of flake8 | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | gotcha | 17:38 |
| tmcpeak | so Pylint, hacking,... | 17:39 |
| bknudson | right it's all kind of the same thing... openstack-dev/hacking are the openstack additions | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | homegrown script? | 17:39 |
| tmcpeak | grep | 17:39 |
| hyakuhei | for line in readlines() :P | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | +1 | 17:40 |
| viraptor_ | just for comparison? why not. but flake8 has a line-by-ilne interface which understands logical lines - so strictly better than grep | 17:40 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | do you think this would be a good topic for a ML discussion? | 17:41 |
| tmcpeak | maybe other people have some viable options too | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | Yeah I think so | 17:41 |
| hyakuhei | Though probably -dev with the [OSSG] tag | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | ok cool | 17:42 |
| tmcpeak | I'll take a todo item to get out a little blurb on dev about what we're trying to do to solicit some ideas | 17:42 |
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| hyakuhei | #action tmcpeak to kick off a thread on -dev regarding basic gate tests | 17:43 |
| tmcpeak | cool | 17:43 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Security Collaboration | 17:44 |
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| hyakuhei | A few days back I sent an email to -dev about Security and how we need to start working together | 17:44 |
| hyakuhei | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037413.html | 17:45 |
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| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: so you are looking for a few things here as I understand it... | 17:45 |
| tmcpeak | oh cool, this looks good | 17:45 |
| nkinder_ | 1 - sharing any existing work | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | I’ve had conversations with Rackspace and Redhat, both are interested in working together more openly. Can any of you take this back to your respective organisations and tryto get mrore buy in | 17:46 |
| nkinder_ | 2 - coordinating on future efforts in public | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | 1 - Share anything you’re willing to | 17:46 |
| tmcpeak | I'll kick it around Symantec | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | 2 - Absolutely, starting with Threat Modelling and looking at setting up test systems for combined pentests etc | 17:46 |
| hyakuhei | tmcpeak: Thanks :) | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | Ok, so that’s pretty much all I had | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | #topic Any other business ? | 17:47 |
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| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: it might be a good idea to get something like a "bug squash day" or "test day" approach going for threat modelling work | 17:47 |
| tmcpeak | nkinder_: +1 | 17:47 |
| hyakuhei | Potentially yeah, I’m a bit concerned that the threat analysis stuff isn’t moving fast enough | 17:48 |
| nkinder_ | hyakuhei: regularly scheduled days where we pick a project and try to get folks to pitch in at the same time | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | Could be good to do on a Lync/Hangout or something | 17:48 |
| hyakuhei | We need good architecture diagrams for the service being examined though | 17:48 |
| tmcpeak | yeah, we encountered some difficulty when trying to do Keystone Threat Modeling | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | because of lack of architectural understanding | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | it's very difficult to find good diagrams for how it works | 17:49 |
| tmcpeak | /s/difficult/impossible | 17:49 |
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| hyakuhei | Oh yeah, you need domain experts in the room | 17:49 |
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| nkinder_ | tmcpeak: it's not impossible if you read the code.. ;) | 17:50 |
| nkinder_ | basically, domain experts are needed as hyakuhei says | 17:50 |
| hyakuhei | bknudson: You’re up - | 17:50 |
| hyakuhei | 10 minutes, keystone review, lets go! | 17:50 |
| hyakuhei | ….no ? … ok then :) | 17:50 |
| nkinder_ | there are also many ways to set each service up (especially with keystone), which may affect that threat modelling finds | 17:50 |
| bknudson | seems like most of the issues lately are about trusts | 17:50 |
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| CristianF | agreed, for the work I started on Nova threat modelling either, I should collect information to get at least a high level/up to date overview of the module | 17:51 |
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| bknudson | keystone is a pretty simple arch compared to for example nova | 17:51 |
| bknudson | it's only got the one service that runs | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | True | 17:51 |
| bknudson | there's different plugins for the backends which complicates things | 17:51 |
| chair6 | is anyone else looking at the Code Spaces and Bonsai annoucements about AWS takeovers in the last 24 - 48 hours with bad brokenness resulting? | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | So it’s IAM and it’s Simple, thats a good place to start | 17:51 |
| hyakuhei | chair6: Scary stuff | 17:52 |
| hyakuhei | Though at least in the case of CS not really a cloud specific issue | 17:52 |
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| hyakuhei | So some dev got their creds owned and they were used to take down their infrastructure, I mean, I’m personally amused that it was AWS but I don’t think there’s really much blame to be laid at Amazon’s door… | 17:52 |
| chair6 | yeah, but some good questions to be asked about what we could to to prevent | 17:53 |
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| hyakuhei | +1 | 17:53 |
| tmcpeak | chair6: I read an article about that | 17:53 |
| chair6 | in code spaces case, they had a window of time before bad shit was done .. what about a 'read-only' flag that immediately locks web/API admin access on a per-tenant or other basis? | 17:53 |
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| chair6 | that's just one thought that came to mind so far.. | 17:54 |
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| hyakuhei | chair6: Yeah, a big-red button for non-destructive actions | 17:54 |
| hyakuhei | Could be abused itself of course but perhaps not in such an agressive way. | 17:55 |
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| hyakuhei | I suppose the only way to do it would be to augment the keystone token somehow | 17:55 |
| nkinder_ | I think requiring stronger credentials to get keystone tokens is one good step to help here. | 17:55 |
| tmcpeak | "While Code Space claims that the attacker did not have access to the computers at the firm, they did have a number of backup login details for the company’s Amazon EC2 account. When Code Spaces tried to change the passwords for EC2, the attacker used these backup login credentials to delete artifacts from the control panel. The company managed to regain control of the panel after a while, but not before most of the service’s data, backups, | 17:55 |
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| nkinder_ | limiting tokens could also help in case a token is intercepted | 17:56 |
| nkinder_ | I recently wrote up some ideas about this - https://blog-nkinder.rhcloud.com/?p=101 | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | I can see another blog post | 17:57 |
| hyakuhei | oh nvm | 17:57 |
| nkinder_ | heh | 17:57 |
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| nkinder_ | ok, time's up | 18:00 |
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| aignatov | Hello, Saharians, are you here? :) | 18:01 |
| elmiko | yo! | 18:01 |
| nkinder_ | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 19 18:01:41 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-06-19-17.01.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-06-19-17.01.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_security_group/2014/openstack_security_group.2014-06-19-17.01.log.html | 18:01 |
| mattf | howdy! | 18:02 |
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| aignatov | oops, we had attendance logs in previous meeting, lol | 18:02 |
| aignatov | tmckay: crobertsrh dmitryme around? | 18:03 |
| crobertsrh | I'm here | 18:03 |
| dmitryme | yep | 18:03 |
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| aignatov | SergeyLukjanov on a business trip, so I’m driving this meeting | 18:03 |
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| aignatov | just let me find all needed helpful tags to start :) | 18:03 |
| aignatov | #startmeeting sahara | 18:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 19 18:04:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aignatov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'sahara' | 18:04 |
| aignatov | ok, let | 18:04 |
| aignatov | lets start | 18:04 |
| aignatov | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SaharaAgenda | 18:04 |
| aignatov | #topic News/Updates | 18:05 |
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| aignatov | please guys :) | 18:05 |
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| aignatov | nothing to update? dmitry, elmiko, tosky, mattf, crobertsrh tmckay ? | 18:06 |
| dmitryme | not much from my side, just a few fixes here and there. Most I was busy with other stuff | 18:06 |
| crobertsrh | Dashboard merge has picked-up some review momentum. Sadly, it's largely another round of mostly nit-picky sorts of things. My plan is to address the current set of -1s and let the horizon people know of our desire to 1) get the merge done timely and 2) take care of minor rafactorings post-merge 3) continue to add functionality. | 18:06 |
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| elmiko | i've been working on a solution to the swift/auth issue. i'm close to getting a mock up of some ideas. | 18:06 |
| dmitryme | elmiko: can you share details on the approach you’ve picked? | 18:07 |
| aignatov | crobertsrh: is there any chance to be merged your horizon work till juno-2 ? :) | 18:07 |
| crobertsrh | The current plan is to either get merged by j-2 or "not at all" | 18:07 |
| elmiko | dmitryme: i'm proposing that we use keystone trusts and delegation | 18:08 |
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| elmiko | dmitryme: i would like to put together a full spec though, so that we can debate it | 18:08 |
| mattf | i've been busy w/ extra-sahara things. if folks are in san fran in a week, come by spark summit and we can talk spark + sahara. | 18:08 |
| elmiko | i'm curious what the next step should be. i have a solid idea but i think we need to work out some details. | 18:09 |
| themistymay | mattf: aww im in pasadena this week and next. so close but so far | 18:09 |
| dmitryme | elmiko: sure, I’d like to see the spec | 18:09 |
| aignatov | wow! what happends with irc? | 18:09 |
| themistymay | aignatov: lol, mass kick | 18:09 |
| elmiko | super-split | 18:09 |
| aignatov | so many guys left chat room | 18:09 |
| dmitryme | aignatov: split-brain :-) | 18:10 |
| aignatov | lol | 18:10 |
| dmitryme | hope we didn’t lost somebody of our folks | 18:10 |
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| aignatov | yes, I hope too :) | 18:11 |
| crobertsrh | I *think* I'm still here | 18:11 |
| aignatov | bah | 18:11 |
| themistymay | AAAAAAAAAND they are back | 18:11 |
| tmckay | I'm here | 18:11 |
| aignatov | cool :) | 18:11 |
| mattf | spammy mc spamster | 18:11 |
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| aignatov | not so much news from me, I’m busy right now by other stuff at mirantis, only updated some pep8 erros in new hacking version… | 18:12 |
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| tosky | so netsplit? But the topic is wrong | 18:12 |
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| dmitryme | aignatov: seems like the meet bot (or what is its name?) gone mad: take a look at current topic | 18:12 |
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| tosky | maybe the old meeting is still open | 18:12 |
| aignatov | # News ? Updates | 18:13 |
| dmitryme | aignatov: try to set the topic | 18:13 |
| aignatov | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 18:13 |
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| tosky | hyakuhei: could you please try again to close the meeting? | 18:13 |
| dmitryme | cool, it works | 18:13 |
| aignatov | yes, it works :) | 18:13 |
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| tosky | oh, nevermind | 18:13 |
| aignatov | tosky: hyakuhei no, it set for sahara tight now | 18:13 |
| aignatov | *right | 18:13 |
| tosky | yes, sorry | 18:14 |
| aignatov | so the items were | 18:14 |
| aignatov | aignatov create bp re moving/updating rest samples docs and do it | 18:14 |
| aignatov | SergeyLukjanov to create bp with steps to enable heat be default | 18:14 |
| aignatov | SergeyLukjanov to create bp about removing/hiding username@image for heat based provisioning | 18:14 |
| aignatov | tmckay to create bp re moving edp samples to sahara and make test jobs examples | 18:14 |
| tmckay | done | 18:14 |
| tmckay | just did it :) | 18:14 |
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| aignatov | I’m partially done, bp is created but code not yet :) | 18:15 |
| aignatov | oh, nooooo | 18:15 |
| themistymay | *facepalm* | 18:15 |
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| aignatov | I’m not sure if SergeyLukjanov finished his AIs | 18:16 |
| aignatov | let’s move them to next meeting | 18:16 |
| elmiko | if i get a spec together for the swift/auth issue, do we need to make it private? | 18:16 |
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| aignatov | #action aignatov create bp re moving/updating rest samples docs and do it | 18:16 |
| tmckay | aignatov, okay, I did mine | 18:17 |
| aignatov | #action SergeyLukjanov to create bp with steps to enable heat be default | 18:17 |
| tmckay | don't know if you saw that before the split | 18:17 |
| aignatov | #action SergeyLukjanov to create bp about removing/hiding username@image for heat based provisioning | 18:17 |
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| aignatov | tmckay: I saw it :) | 18:17 |
| dmitryme | elmiko: good question. I’d say let’s keep it private until somebody makes a good point why it should be disclosed. It seems to be part of the bug discussion | 18:18 |
| aignatov | #info DONE: tmckay to create bp re moving edp samples to sahara and make test jobs examples | 18:18 |
| tmckay | update from me -- PTO starting tomorrow until June 30th. Please everyone, look at my reviews for refactoring the job manager and moving edp engine choice to plugins | 18:18 |
| elmiko | dmitryme: i will start by making a thorough explanation in the bug report, then we can debate from there | 18:18 |
| dmitryme | elmiko: ok | 18:18 |
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| aignatov | #topic Review of backward compat - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98260/ | 18:19 |
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| aignatov | so, I think the main concern was from alazarev but he is not here :) | 18:19 |
| aignatov | personally I think that plugin vendor should dictate his upgrade policy | 18:20 |
| aignatov | so I’m mostly agree with jspiedel | 18:20 |
| tmckay | +1, me too | 18:20 |
| RobLevas | +1, me too | 18:20 |
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| aignatov | I think alazarev and SergeyLukjanov have their own opinions but they are not here... | 18:21 |
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| aignatov | probably we need to reraise this question again on the next meetings | 18:22 |
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| aignatov | #action alazarev reraise discussions about backward compat https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98260/ | 18:22 |
| aignatov | let’s move on | 18:22 |
| mattf | +1 ^^ reraise | 18:22 |
| tmckay | +1 next meeting, I won't be here then but that's okay | 18:22 |
| aignatov | #topic Pilot sahara-specs | 18:23 |
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| aignatov | do anyone know about this topic? :) | 18:23 |
| aignatov | actually I missed something about that but saw patches on the review | 18:24 |
| crobertsrh | I think tmckay was going to be writing up a spec to try the new system, right? | 18:24 |
| tmckay | yes, I created 2 | 18:24 |
| aignatov | are you about edp pluggable model? | 18:25 |
| tmckay | Very easy. The template.rst in sahara-specs tells you what to do | 18:25 |
| dmitryme | aignatov: frankly I am expecting an intro from SergeyLukjanov | 18:25 |
| aignatov | ok | 18:25 |
| tmckay | aignatov, yes, I made 1 about edp refactor and one about examples moving | 18:25 |
| elmiko | doesn't the nova project have an intro about using the -spec system? | 18:25 |
| aignatov | I think current topic is about something else but not about edp :) | 18:26 |
| dmitryme | ok, I will read the template.rst as tmckay suggest … eventually :-) | 18:26 |
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| aignatov | move on to talk about edp or any more thoughts abut specs? | 18:27 |
| dmitryme | aignatov: I think you misunderstood tmckay - he says he already have experience with sahara-specs | 18:27 |
| tmckay | yes, that's what I mean | 18:27 |
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| aignatov | oh, ok, tmckay, sorry | 18:27 |
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| aignatov | well lets move on | 18:28 |
| aignatov | #topic Roadmap update / cleanup | 18:28 |
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| aignatov | any points aout this? | 18:28 |
| aignatov | *about | 18:28 |
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| aignatov | #topic Open discussion | 18:29 |
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| aignatov | HW guys around? | 18:30 |
| RobLevas | Here | 18:30 |
| crobertsrh | Just a reminder to keep up with dashboard merge reviews in horizon. There should be another round coming up soon. | 18:31 |
| RobLevas | I will make sure Erik knows | 18:31 |
| aignatov | I have questions about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101050/ | 18:31 |
| aignatov | not actually questions but some thoughts | 18:31 |
| dmitryme | tmckay: re https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara_spark_edp. I have a feeling that we started design of determining which JobEngine to run too early | 18:31 |
| RobLevas | I am working on that... | 18:31 |
| aignatov | I think you should split patch on to several ones | 18:32 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: I am working on that - sorry new to the workflow here | 18:32 |
| dmitryme | I mean we can pick the dumbiest option right now and it will work | 18:32 |
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| aignatov | it’s really hard to review about 1000 lines of code :) | 18:32 |
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| RobLevas | Did I add that much? | 18:32 |
| dmitryme | on the other side, from your implementation I can see that it is extracted into a separate function | 18:32 |
| tmckay | dmitryme, true. I had an idea I thought would work, so I tried it out | 18:33 |
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| tmckay | dmitryme, we can go with a simple option for now, but the plugin call with defaults is almost as simple I think | 18:33 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: the bulk of the code is in a new class | 18:33 |
| dmitryme | also, later, when we will have a more specific use cases, we will have a better vision on what is best | 18:33 |
| aignatov | roblevas: in general your patch looks good, but splitting it you’ll make review process more faster :) | 18:33 |
| tmckay | dmitryme, I'm open to other solutions | 18:33 |
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| tmckay | but I'm leaving on PTO so I wanted to get something down :) dmitryme | 18:34 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: I am open to suggestions. :) | 18:34 |
| aignatov | roblevas: can I make it more later, in comments to your patch, is it ok for you? | 18:35 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: there are really 3 large chunks of code.. the class I added to implement the feature, the metadata and config options for the feature, and test code | 18:35 |
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| RobLevas | aignatov: sure | 18:36 |
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| RobLevas | aignatov: the number of lines would be smaller if we could have more than 79 characters per line.. ;) | 18:36 |
| aignatov | roblevas: indeed, but policy is policy :) | 18:37 |
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| dmitryme | tmckay: ok, I just wanted to say that I don’t really have an opinion what is good there. I believe that later, when we have use cases, it will be more clear. And by ‘later’, I mean at least after 3 month, or maybe even 6 | 18:37 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: I know... just kidding... I am a fan of coding conventions and will follow blindly | 18:37 |
| aignatov | “..implement the feature, the metadata and config options..” - that’s already 3 patches :) | 18:37 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: I guess you can work it that way.. but would you split out the feature code and it's tests? | 18:38 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: or maybe I misunderstand what you mean by patch. | 18:39 |
| aignatov | feature code should go with tests, yes | 18:39 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: I can submit multiple patches for a single blueprint? | 18:40 |
| aignatov | I meant 3 new smaller change requests instead of largest one | 18:40 |
| aignatov | roblevas: sure!! that’s the best approach | 18:40 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: sorry, newbie here. | 18:40 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: so I should retract my patch, and create 3 smaller ones | 18:41 |
| aignatov | roblevas: you don’t need to say sorry, everething is ok, you already mage a huge work as new sahara contributor :) | 18:42 |
| RobLevas | :) | 18:43 |
| aignatov | you could use current patch as one patch in the smallest new 3 patches | 18:43 |
| RobLevas | i dont understant | 18:44 |
| aignatov | lets say you have current patch A with (feature 1, feature 2, feature 3), you decided to split it into 3 new pathces | 18:45 |
| aignatov | so you could reuse patch A as implementation of feature 1 for example | 18:46 |
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| aignatov | dmitryme: tmckay so what would be our suggestion for implementing new edp model? | 18:47 |
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| dmitryme | aignatov: sorry, I don’t understand your question | 18:47 |
| tmckay | aignatov, dmitryme, well, I am hoping to get simple spark execution working, using shell commands | 18:47 |
| tmckay | to use with the spark provisioning plugin | 18:48 |
| tmckay | as a first step for spark edp | 18:48 |
| tmckay | Then maybe we can look at ooyala later on, or something else | 18:48 |
| aignatov | dmitryme: I meant approach how to determine job engine during strating job exeution :) | 18:48 |
| aignatov | tmckay: seems to be a very good plan :) | 18:49 |
| dmitryme | aignatov: ah, then as I said, right now any approach works for me. The only thing I think is important is to decouple engine selection from the rest of the code and it is already done actually | 18:49 |
| dmitryme | that will enable us to choose another approach if we consider current as not suitable | 18:50 |
| tmckay | aignatov, yes, for now we can just do by job type. I think later, for example when HDP does oozie and spark both, it will be more complicated in the hdp plugin. "Is the oozie server installed? etc" | 18:50 |
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| tmckay | vanilla right now is "always oozie". But, if we add spark to vanilla as an option, we'll have to check if spark is installed on a cluster, for example | 18:51 |
| tmckay | for spark plugin, oozie is never an option (currently). | 18:51 |
| aignatov | tmckay: yep, we already have validate_edp for that | 18:52 |
| aignatov | in plugin spi | 18:52 |
| tmckay | unless provisioning plugin for spark adds mapred dep as an option (but I don't think so) | 18:52 |
| tmckay | so basically, default choice is by job type now, but it is overloadable in the plugin with the patch I put up | 18:52 |
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| aignatov | my idea was to crate new field in cluster or in job execution object where we could define job engine | 18:53 |
| aignatov | and just validate it on starting | 18:53 |
| aignatov | job | 18:53 |
| tmckay | we could do that too | 18:53 |
| tmckay | cluster makes more sense to me. User shouldn't be forced to pick the engine | 18:54 |
| aignatov | tmckay: agree | 18:54 |
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| tmckay | I have to go. Bye! | 18:55 |
| aignatov | actually it’s just an idea, and in fact you are the main architector of pluggable edp right now, I will agree with any decisions, as for start I’m ok with current your idea :) | 18:55 |
| aignatov | tmckay: bye! | 18:55 |
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| dmitryme | tmckay: have a good vacation! | 18:56 |
| aignatov | roblevas: I think you didn’t undesrstand and I want to explain you what I meant about splitting patches :) | 18:57 |
| elmiko | tmckay: later | 18:57 |
| aignatov | lets talk about it in sahara channel | 18:57 |
| RobLevas | aignatov: thanks... I can also ask some of my coworkers so we dont have to go over it here | 18:57 |
| aignatov | so, guys, anything else to discuss today? | 18:57 |
| aignatov | I think we can finish :) | 18:58 |
| aignatov | thank you all! bye! | 18:58 |
| aignatov | #endmeeting | 18:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 19 18:58:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-06-19-18.04.html | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-06-19-18.04.txt | 18:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/sahara/2014/sahara.2014-06-19-18.04.log.html | 18:58 |
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