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| Swami | ping sylvain | 15:00 |
| Swami | ping mrsmith | 15:00 |
| Swami | mrsmith: hi | 15:00 |
| mrsmith | howdy | 15:01 |
| Swami | ping vivek | 15:01 |
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| Swami | ping jamie | 15:01 |
| xuhanp | hi | 15:01 |
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| Swami | xuhanp: hi | 15:02 |
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| Swami | #startmeeting distributed-virtual-router | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 26 15:02:55 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: distributed-virtual-router)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 15:02 |
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| Swami | #topic Agenda | 15:03 |
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| Swami | DVR Progress | 15:03 |
| Swami | DVR Design Docs | 15:03 |
| Swami | DVR HA | 15:04 |
| Swami | Distributed DHCP | 15:04 |
| Swami | Open Discussion | 15:04 |
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| Swami | Is there any other agenda items that you need to add. | 15:04 |
| Swami | Is Vivek in here. | 15:04 |
| Swami | If vivek is here we can also discuss about the L2 issue that we ran with the DVR implementation. | 15:05 |
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| Swami | #topic DVR Progress | 15:06 |
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| Swami | As mentioned in the previous meeting the DVR work is in progress. | 15:06 |
| Swami | vivek: hi | 15:06 |
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| Guest70967 | hi | 15:07 |
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| Swami | With respect to the East-West implementation we have completed 90% of the work. | 15:07 |
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| Swami | We had some issues with the L2Pop and also have some issues with how the portbindings are handled in the L2. | 15:07 |
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| Swami | But we are trying to work it out, once we have the details we will share it with the DVR team and the ML2 Team. | 15:08 |
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| Swami | Last week we brought up an issue with the L2Pop and the MAC Learning that was both having the mac entries ( duplicate MAC learning). | 15:09 |
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| Swami | I spoke to Sylvain about the issue and he created a patch to fix that issue. | 15:09 |
| Swami | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83053/1 | 15:10 |
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| Swami | Hope that Duplicate MAc issue is resolved. | 15:10 |
| xuhanp | Swami, thanks for sharing. will take a look | 15:11 |
| Swami | Sylvain: may not join today's meeting since he had another meeting to attend. | 15:11 |
| Swami | xuhanp: welcom | 15:11 |
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| VivekNarasimhan | Swami, this is duplicate mac occuring in L2-Pop entries is it? | 15:11 |
| Swami | vivek: Yes | 15:11 |
| Swami | This is a WIP patch. | 15:12 |
| Swami | So we can review it, test it and make sure that the duplicate mac issue is resolved. | 15:12 |
| VivekNarasimhan | I have not seen dup MACs occuring after patching teh two gerrits available off Hvana stable | 15:12 |
| VivekNarasimhan | is this for a specific case where the MAC appears? | 15:12 |
| Swami | vivek: This is a patch that has a "config" flag to turn on or turn off the MAC learning. Please make sure if it compliments our work. | 15:13 |
| VivekNarasimhan | that is good | 15:13 |
| Swami | vivek: can you check it this patch does not affect our work. | 15:14 |
| VivekNarasimhan | yes, will verify | 15:14 |
| VivekNarasimhan | the patch passed all tests? | 15:14 |
| Swami | #action Vivek will verify the Duplicate Mac learning patch with DVR | 15:14 |
| VivekNarasimhan | sure | 15:15 |
| Swami | #topic L3 Plugin Extension for DVR | 15:15 |
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| Swami | The work on L3 Plugin Extension for DVR is proceeding. Fixed the Unit test issues that was causing problem. I might still need to do some refactoring to the Icehouse latest master branch. | 15:16 |
| Swami | Once done, will be pushing the Plugin code as WIP for review to the team. | 15:16 |
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| Swami | #topic L3 Agent | 15:16 |
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| Swami | mrsmith: Any updates on the L3 Agent | 15:17 |
| mrsmith | we have started work on supported FIPs in the code | 15:17 |
| mrsmith | distriubuted FIPs | 15:17 |
| mrsmith | flushing out the details for centralized SNAT | 15:17 |
| mrsmith | good progress | 15:17 |
| Swami | any issues so far with the East-West. | 15:18 |
| mrsmith | nope | 15:18 |
| Swami | mrsmith: Thanks for the update. | 15:18 |
| mrsmith | probably start merging in icehouse-2 soon | 15:18 |
| mrsmith | np | 15:18 |
| Swami | #topic L2 Plugin/Agent | 15:18 |
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| Swami | vivek: How is your work with the L2 Agent/Plugin coming up | 15:19 |
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| VivekNarasimhan | coming up good | 15:19 |
| VivekNarasimhan | good progress for the port binding issue | 15:19 |
| VivekNarasimhan | hpn-dvr succeeds | 15:19 |
| VivekNarasimhan | DHCP IP obtaining by VM fails due to L2-Pop rule corruption in NN | 15:19 |
| VivekNarasimhan | analysing the same | 15:19 |
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| VivekNarasimhan | teh IP obtaining fails only at times, figuring out the root-cause in teh L2-Pop module | 15:20 |
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| Swami | vivek: You mentioned that you had some issues with the port binding issue, do you have a handle on it. | 15:21 |
| VivekNarasimhan | yes, basically having a pport-binding table specifically for only DVR Ports | 15:21 |
| VivekNarasimhan | the original Port Binding will continue to carry VM port bindings and Centralized NN port bindings | 15:22 |
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| VivekNarasimhan | Still work there to get Unit Tests to run and ensure that other verndor-specific code not broken | 15:22 |
| Swami | vivek: Thanks for the information. If you have any questions on portbinding just bring it up to the team. | 15:23 |
| Swami | Is murali in here | 15:23 |
| Swami | #topic DVR Design Docs | 15:24 |
| VivekNarasimhan | basically there were a few approaches we thought on like I said yesterday | 15:24 |
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| VivekNarasimhan | a. Representing all teh DVR Ports as basic tenant ports | 15:24 |
| VivekNarasimhan | this option will not ensure transparency of DVR operation | 15:24 |
| Swami | DVR design docs are out for review, and we have been addressing the comments. If anyone felt that the comments are not been addressed please bring it up to my notice. | 15:24 |
| Swami | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1depasJSnGZPOnRLxEC_PYsVLcGVFXZLqP52RFTe21BE/edit#heading=h.5w7clq272tji | 15:25 |
| VivekNarasimhan | b. Shadow port-binding table. main port updated based on bucket result (AND/OR) of shadow table | 15:25 |
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| Swami | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jCmraZGirmXq5V1MtRqhjdZCbUfiwBhRkUjDXGt5QUQ/edit | 15:25 |
| Swami | vivek: we are on a different topic now, | 15:26 |
| VivekNarasimhan | guess murali din't join yet | 15:26 |
| VivekNarasimhan | he has got the delete router namespace working today, when I met him in evening | 15:26 |
| Swami | Both design documents will be updated if there are any new changes. | 15:28 |
| Swami | xuhanp: Have your concerns in the design doc been addressed. | 15:28 |
| xuhanp | Swami, thanks for asking. Yes, they are | 15:29 |
| Swami | xuhanp: Sorry I knew that you are listening, but if you have any topics to discuss please feel free to add in yur topic. | 15:29 |
| xuhanp | Swami, sure. still processing your conversation :-) | 15:29 |
| Swami | xuhanp: Thanks | 15:30 |
| Swami | #topic DVR L3 HA | 15:31 |
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| Swami | Sylvain is out today as well. I need to discuss this with Sylvain and see if the current L3-VRRP patch can be utilized for the Service Node SNAT service. | 15:31 |
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| xuhanp | Swami, I am actually trying to test out Sylvain's 4 patches for HA now | 15:32 |
| Swami | Because we are planning to use the same L3 Agent in a context driven mode, this should not break. | 15:32 |
| Swami | xuhanp: Good, please let us know how it goes. | 15:33 |
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| Swami | Once we have the Service Node North-South running we need to evaulate this. | 15:33 |
| xuhanp | Swami, sure. So far it works well and I plan to cover more scenarios | 15:33 |
| Swami | sorry: evaluate. | 15:33 |
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| Swami | xuhanp: The L3 VRRP today is just Active/Passive, am I right. | 15:34 |
| xuhanp | yes. It's master and backup | 15:34 |
| Swami | I knew that Amuller was trying to push his thoughts on the Active/Active model. | 15:35 |
| carl_baldwin | Swami: The active/active work is on hold and not progressing at the moment. | 15:35 |
| Swami | For HA i was also thinking should be file a blueprint for some sort of Loadbalancing the service node routers dynamically based on the load. | 15:35 |
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| Swami | carl_baldwin: Thanks for the information. | 15:36 |
| xuhanp | carl_baldwin, because the DVR decreases the requirement of active/active HA? | 15:36 |
| Swami | xuhanp: The use case for dvr on the L3 VRRP will be little bit different than what is currently been proposed. | 15:37 |
| carl_baldwin | xuhanp: Basically, yes. | 15:37 |
| Swami | For DVR it can be utilized for the Service Node, but for all other nodes it might not make a lot more sense. | 15:38 |
| xuhanp | Swami, OK. that makes sense | 15:38 |
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| Swami | #topic Distributed DHCP | 15:40 |
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| xuhanp | Swami, I actually have a question about redundant DHCP configuration in current code | 15:40 |
| Swami | Since we have been talking about the DVR HA, the only service component left out in the Service node will be the DHCP. | 15:41 |
| Swami | But it is maintained by a different agent. | 15:41 |
| Swami | xuhanp: Yes tell me what you think | 15:41 |
| xuhanp | there is a configuration in neutron.conf | 15:41 |
| xuhanp | # Number of DHCP agents scheduled to host a network. This enables redundant | 15:41 |
| xuhanp | # DHCP agents for configured networks. | 15:41 |
| xuhanp | # dhcp_agents_per_network = 1 | 15:41 |
| xuhanp | so when that number is more than 1 | 15:41 |
| xuhanp | there are more than one DHCP agents for each network | 15:42 |
| xuhanp | does that kind of meeting the requirement of having more than 1 DHCP replying to DHCP request from a network? | 15:43 |
| mrsmith | each agent takes a seperate IP tho right? | 15:43 |
| Swami | mrsmith: Do you have any comments on this. | 15:43 |
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| mrsmith | yes, redundant dhcp is supported but each server/agent takes an IP from the network | 15:43 |
| xuhanp | mrsmith, I am not sure about that. but I think the agent shares the same host file for the network. | 15:43 |
| mrsmith | yes | 15:44 |
| mrsmith | but I believe each dhcp server takes an IP from the hosted network | 15:44 |
| xuhanp | mrsmith, what do you mean by "takes an IP"? | 15:44 |
| mrsmith | one of the VM ips hosted on a network | 15:44 |
| mrsmith | like .2 | 15:45 |
| Swami | mrsmith: from the VMs subnet | 15:45 |
| mrsmith | I think that is the current complaint about redundant DHCP | 15:45 |
| mrsmith | Swami: yes | 15:45 |
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| xuhanp | mrsmith, so you mean there is no same mac and IP pair in two dhcp's host file? | 15:45 |
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| xuhanp | I think I can simply test it some time to confirm it. | 15:46 |
| mrsmith | sure | 15:46 |
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| VivekNarasimhan | if it hs the same, there will two responses for the VM | 15:46 |
| VivekNarasimhan | during DHCP Discover, right? | 15:46 |
| mrsmith | I think you will find the DHCP servers all take a neutron port and IP per node | 15:46 |
| xuhanp | mrsmith, so by distributed DHCP, you want to change that? to have many distributed DHCP server to provide one IP? | 15:47 |
| mrsmith | I think there are some in the community who want that | 15:48 |
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| mrsmith | carl_baldwin: any comments? | 15:48 |
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| xuhanp | are there any protocol to support that? | 15:49 |
| Swami | xuhanp: Since we are distributing the routers, it would make sense to also distribute the DHCP | 15:49 |
| carl_baldwin | I hope that distributed DHCP will use one port. | 15:49 |
| mrsmith | well, we are doing something similar for dvr | 15:49 |
| Swami | There was patch earlier for Multihost by gongyish that addressed this issue. | 15:49 |
| mrsmith | for each router on the CNs - we are trying to share the router-interface ports | 15:49 |
| Swami | Because of refactor issues, it did not get through during the Grizzly time frame. | 15:49 |
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| xuhanp | Great. maybe I can find his patch and have a look. | 15:50 |
| Swami | xuhanp:thanks | 15:51 |
| xuhanp | Swami, thank you for the information! | 15:51 |
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| Swami | #topic Open Discussions | 15:51 |
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| Swami | Is there any other open items or topics that we need to discuss today | 15:51 |
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| Swami | If there are no other topics for discussion I will give you back 5 mins | 15:53 |
| Swami | Thank you all for attending the meeting. | 15:53 |
| Swami | Meet you all next week. | 15:53 |
| Swami | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 26 15:53:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-03-26-15.02.html | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-03-26-15.02.txt | 15:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2014/distributed_virtual_router.2014-03-26-15.02.log.html | 15:53 |
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| banix | Hello Ml2ers! | 16:01 |
| TrinathSomanchi | Hi All | 16:01 |
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| rkukura | hi everyone! | 16:01 |
| rcurran | hi | 16:01 |
| amotoki | hi! I missed the last two :( | 16:02 |
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| rkukura | lets wait another minute for people to join | 16:03 |
| rkukura | #startmeeting networking_ml2 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 26 16:04:13 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rkukura. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ml2' | 16:04 |
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| rkukura | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ML2#Meeting_March_26.2C_2014 | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | agenda is kind of light today | 16:05 |
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| rkukura | no official action items from last week | 16:05 |
| TrinathSomanchi | when will the devtree for juno be opened. ?? any idea | 16:06 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 16:06 |
| rkukura | TrinathSomanchi: I’m not sure, anyone know? | 16:06 |
| rkukura | #topic Migration BP | 16:06 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Migration BP (Meeting topic: networking_ml2)" | 16:06 | |
| amotoki | TrinathSomanchi: After RC1 is shipped | 16:06 |
| rkukura | This merged - good job marun | 16:06 |
| amotoki | yeah. I hope more people tests it :-) | 16:07 |
| rkukura | Lets continue to test this and make sure migrations from other plugins to ML2 in icehouse will go smoothly | 16:07 |
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| rkukura | Any comments/questions on the migration tool? | 16:08 |
| TrinathSomanchi | amotoki: RC1 of icehouse ?? any tentative dates for Juno.. | 16:08 |
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| TrinathSomanchi | in nova mailing lists, I hear about gerrit for BP review. Do the same procedure be followed in Neutron from Juno .. | 16:08 |
| amotoki | TrinathSomanchi: could you wait for open discussion about juno topic? | 16:09 |
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| TrinathSomanchi | okay | 16:09 |
| rkukura | #topic icehouse bugs | 16:09 |
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| rkukura | The port binding details fix is now completely merged, and the Cisco nexus driver has been updated by rcurran to remove the workaround. Other drivers may also be able to do the same. | 16:10 |
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| rkukura | The patch moving port binding outside of transactions is now in WIP review | 16:11 |
| rkukura | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82945/ | 16:12 |
| rcurran | rkukura, is your goal to get this WIP into Icehouse? | 16:12 |
| rkukura | I plan to update this later today with some clean ups (mostly identified by REVISIT comments) | 16:12 |
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| matrohon | route -n | 16:12 |
| matrohon | ha sorry :) | 16:13 |
| rkukura | It would be great if others could start looking this over and providing feedback | 16:13 |
| rkukura | Hopefully we’ll get a decison soon on whether it makes icehouse or gets deferred | 16:13 |
| rcurran | rkukura, ok - i'll wait until your next patch before i review in more detail | 16:14 |
| rkukura | rcurran: I’d encourage feedback on the current patch if possible so it can be incorporated into the update | 16:14 |
| rkukura | The current patch seems to pass all the Jenkins testing | 16:15 |
| rcurran | rkukura, yeah i'm sure it works and if we're under the clock for a commit then i don't have an issue in +1 but thinking i would change some of the ut/control plane changes in the future | 16:15 |
| rkukura | In particular, I have some revisit comments on changes to the mechanism drivers and tests that I’d like to remove in the cleanup once the driver authors have looked them over | 16:15 |
| rkukura | rcurran: Yes, at this point we need to minimize unnecessary change | 16:16 |
| rkukura | Anything else on the port binding bugs? | 16:16 |
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| rkukura | banix: Any update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1227336? | 16:17 |
| rkukura | This is the improved error handling when postcommit methods raise exceptions | 16:17 |
| banix | rkukura, I think last week we decided to leave this for after Icehouse | 16:17 |
| banix | mestery suggested we discuss some of the related issues at the sumit | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | banix: I think that’s a reasonable plan - lets continue to review this and see if the stratefy makes sense | 16:18 |
| amotoki | my question is whether we need to update the status. | 16:18 |
| banix | thee is no clean and unified way of undoing what mechanism drivers may have done in a precommit op | 16:18 |
| rkukura | s/stratefy/strategy/ | 16:18 |
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| rkukura | banix: I’m wondering if exceptions in postcommit should be logged and returned, but otherwise non-fatal | 16:19 |
| banix | amotoki: status for the bug? | 16:19 |
| rkukura | I think markmclain took the icehouse-rc1 target off it | 16:20 |
| amotoki | banix: no. status of resources (port, ..) | 16:20 |
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| banix | rkukura, but if you don't do anyhing you are left with inconsistent state | 16:20 |
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| banix | rkukura, unless you mean wrt the mechanism drivers | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | banix: can you elaborate on that? | 16:21 |
| rcurran | from a vendors perspective (and admin of the openstack deployment using a cisco md) an exception in postcommit is as important to note as a db failure | 16:22 |
| banix | So by the time the post commit fails you have made changes to say for example allowed address pairs | 16:22 |
| banix | there are two sets of things that one need to worry about: the state of the plugin and then that of the mechanism drivers | 16:22 |
| amotoki | IMO when postcommit fails, there are several options: (1) set resource status to ERROR, (2) return an exception, (3) 1 & 2. (no signal should be avoided) | 16:23 |
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| banix | wri the plugin, my patch essentially undo the changes that do not get undone automatically | 16:23 |
| banix | wrt the mechanism drivers, some change state in the precommit part of the operation that ideally need to be undone | 16:24 |
| rkukura | banix: Does the curren patch also undo the changes from the perspective of the MDs that have seen the changes prior to the exception? | 16:24 |
| banix | the current patch does not do anything wrt the MDs | 16:24 |
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| banix | that part is missing and it is not clear to me what the best approach is for dealing with it | 16:25 |
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| banix | mechanism drivers differ in how they keep states and how that changes in precommit ops. does this make sense? | 16:25 |
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| banix | sukhdev: did I ansewr your question | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | banix: thanks - yes | 16:26 |
| rkukura | Assuming we don’t get this fixed in icehouse, it seems like something we’d want to complete quickly and potentially backport | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | banix: Two points - I thougth a failure triggers a rollback - and hence delete will follow | 16:26 |
| Sukhdev | banix: secondly, I clean up all these inconsistencies in the sync mechanism in MD | 16:27 |
| banix | sukhdev: no rollback as post commits are not called within transactions | 16:27 |
| banix | sukhdev: to your second point, may be that is the approach to take but not all mech drivers do that | 16:28 |
| banix | sukhdev: the troble is with update operations | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | banix; If no rollback, then I see this as an issue - I aways thought there was a rollback - perhaps I never noticed the issues because of the sync mechanism :-) | 16:29 |
| Sukhdev | banix: I am with you now - thanks for clarification | 16:30 |
| banix | So I gues the question is if there should be a general mechanism that mechanism driver should include for addressing this issue | 16:30 |
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| Sukhdev | banix: sync solves all these issue :-) | 16:31 |
| banix | One suggestion by rkukura was calling the precommit again with original data but that won't work | 16:31 |
| banix | sukhdev, is sync required by mechanism drivers? | 16:31 |
| Sukhdev | Use Neutron DB as "true-source" and build a sync mechanism - you will never go wrong :-) | 16:31 |
| rkukura | banix: Wouldn’t an undo of an update require precommit calls that reverse the changes? | 16:32 |
| rkukura | Seems like a plugin-level sync mechanism would be a good summit topic | 16:32 |
| banix | rkukura: you won't get the undo effect by calling the precommit with original data necessarily | 16:32 |
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| banix | rkukura: I think that is what mestery was suggesting last week as well | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura; Agree - I can work with you on this if you want | 16:33 |
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| amotoki | I think a complete rollback is not easy. reverting to this original data can override a data by another update during postcommit. | 16:33 |
| amotoki | agree. | 16:33 |
| banix | amotoki: right | 16:33 |
| amotoki | do we have a consensus what is needed in icehouse? status? exception? no changes from now? | 16:34 |
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| rkukura | So maybe we need some way to mark the resource as needing a resync, and having the plugin periodically call into the drivers to take care of this, using the current DB state at that time. | 16:34 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: +1 | 16:34 |
| banix | I think mestery was thinking od having a session which include various ML2 related issues including this one... | 16:34 |
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| amotoki | +1. i think setting ERROR is a good start. | 16:35 |
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| banix | Should we then leave the plugin as is for now? | 16:35 |
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| Sukhdev | banix: I say - yes | 16:36 |
| rkukura | In an update in the current code, does an exception raised in postcommit by one MD prevent the other MDs from being called? | 16:36 |
| rcurran | rkukura, yes | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | Oh - that is bad - | 16:36 |
| banix | amotoki: do you think we should add your suggestion in Icehouse or defer to a better solution in Juno? | 16:36 |
| rcurran | failures on deletes are best effort and all md's will be called | 16:36 |
| rcurran | create postcommit failures result in delete being called | 16:37 |
| rkukura | Would a short term fix to at least call the other MDs before returning the exception help? | 16:37 |
| rcurran | update postcommit cause an exception | 16:37 |
| amotoki | banix: let me check the code. If no indication it is not a good thing. | 16:37 |
| rkukura | I don’t think a failure in update results in a delete | 16:37 |
| rkukura | I think that was just in create | 16:37 |
| rcurran | correct | 16:37 |
| banix | yes in update we just have: self.mechanism_manager.update_network_postcommit(mech_context) | 16:38 |
| banix | no error handling right now | 16:39 |
| rkukura | So the current behavior is that the error gets logged and returned from the update, and that subsequent MDs never see the postcommit | 16:39 |
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| rcurran | rkukura, correct -logged and exception raised | 16:40 |
| banix | yes | 16:40 |
| rkukura | I think the logging and returning the exception are OK, but I’m concerned about subsequent MDs not seeing the postcommit. What do others think about this? | 16:41 |
| rkukura | Would a simple fix to call the remaining MDs before returning an exception be helpful? | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | rkukura: I think your idea of short term fix of calling all MDs should take care of this - until a long term soln is put in place | 16:41 |
| banix | rkukura: I can address that in a new patch and all can review | 16:42 |
| rkukura | #action: banix to push patch to call remaining MDs after postcommit exception | 16:43 |
| amotoki | it sounds reasonable for icehouse. | 16:43 |
| banix | should be straigh forward enough so should have it by the end of day | 16:43 |
| rcurran | i don't object to having all postcommits called on a single md failure. just as long as an exception is raised | 16:43 |
| * banix note to myself: nothing is straightforward :) | 16:43 | |
| rcurran | update postcommits that is | 16:43 |
| rkukura | OK, anything else on this bug? | 16:44 |
| rkukura | Last agenda item is the VIF security issue | 16:44 |
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| rkukura | amotoki: You’ve been in the IRC and email threads on this. Can you update us on the current status/plan? | 16:45 |
| amotoki | First of all, IRC meeting about hybrid dirver secgroup issue will be held today. | 16:45 |
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| amotoki | the original patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21946/ is too complicated and another solution is being discussed. | 16:46 |
| rkukura | amotoki: Is that still scheduled for 14 minutes from now? | 16:46 |
| amotoki | I don't see any update from nachi's mail. | 16:47 |
| amotoki | In the meeting, nova and neutron folks will discuss it according to the mail. | 16:47 |
| amotoki | I am not sure which MD depends on Hybrid drivers. | 16:48 |
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| amotoki | Maintainers of MD which depends on hybrid driver needs to keep eyes on this topic. | 16:49 |
| rkukura | Clearly the openvswitch agent’s MD does, and non-binding MDs don’t | 16:49 |
| amotoki | At now, there are several options in the review and thread. new review is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82904/. | 16:50 |
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| amotoki | I see NeturonFirewallVIFDriver, new VIF type, vif_security attribute, .... | 16:50 |
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| rkukura | This is all sounding just as complicated, if not more, than the plan we had to use vif-details | 16:51 |
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| rkukura | I’m not clear why we shouldn’t just use vif-details with the current single flag | 16:52 |
| rkukura | The nova changes to put vif-details in the VIF object are straightforward, and the GenericVIFDriver can than use that flag. | 16:52 |
| yamamoto | ofagent currently depends on hybrid driver. (same as ovs) but we want to switch to flow-based implementation for a long term. | 16:52 |
| rkukura | And this the has things in place to provide finer grained control as in the original patch from Nachi | 16:53 |
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| amotoki | rkukura: yes. the point is how to inform iptables is required. What I can say now is that a single attribute is not sufficient. | 16:53 |
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| rkukura | s/And this the has things in place/And this puts the things in plance/ | 16:54 |
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| amotoki | I think vif_detail is a good way. | 16:55 |
| rkukura | amotoki: Is the VIF details discussion on #openstack-neutron? | 16:55 |
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| amotoki | yes. | 16:55 |
| rkukura | Lets wrap up this meeting, and continue there | 16:55 |
| rkukura | thanks amotoki! | 16:56 |
| rkukura | #topic Open Discussion | 16:56 |
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| amotoki | another note: please keep watching on removing db-schema auto-generation patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40296/ | 16:56 |
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| rkukura | amotoki: Is this going into RC1? | 16:57 |
| amotoki | not sure, but I think it is almost ready. | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | I have a quick question - How does ML2 deal with the VM Migration? Do we support it? If yes, does it come down as update_port() or delete followed by create? | 16:57 |
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| irenab | amotoki: feels like something that should not be on the last minute | 16:57 |
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| rkukura | Sukhdev: I think its seen as a port update that changes binding:host_id, but am not positive how nova handles | 16:58 |
| rkukura | it | 16:58 |
| amotoki | irenab: we gave up this in Havana at the last moment... Icehouse too? i am not sure. | 16:58 |
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| rkukura | Anyone else? | 16:58 |
| rkukura | Last minute - anything else? | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: you had a patch on VM migration, can you please answer? | 16:59 |
| rcurran | sorry - on two meetings | 16:59 |
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| rcurran | reading back | 17:00 |
| rcurran | cisco nexus md doesn't change binding_host_id | 17:00 |
| rkukura | thanks everyone! | 17:00 |
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| amotoki | thanks! | 17:00 |
| rkukura | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| Sukhdev | rcurran: How does ML2 deal with VM motion? | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 26 17:00:46 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-03-26-16.04.html | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-03-26-16.04.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ml2/2014/networking_ml2.2014-03-26-16.04.log.html | 17:00 |
| banix | bye | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: can you stay for a minute to answer that question?> | 17:01 |
| rcurran | ok, hold on meeting | 17:01 |
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| yamamoto | thanks | 17:01 |
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| vinod1 | #startmeeting Designate | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 26 17:03:37 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is vinod1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 17:03 |
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| vinod1 | okay who's here? | 17:03 |
| esp | o/ | 17:03 |
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| betsy | o/ | 17:04 |
| rjrjr_ | here | 17:04 |
| Sukhdev | rcurran: hey Rich, lets take it to #openstack-neutron | 17:04 |
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| rcurran | ok | 17:04 |
| tsimmons | Here (sort of, on my phone) | 17:04 |
| eankutse | here | 17:04 |
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| vinod1 | #topic Review action items from last week | 17:05 |
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| vinod1 | betsy to add dependency to records-table-redesign blueprint | 17:05 |
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| betsy | I did that | 17:06 |
| vinod1 | thanks betsy | 17:06 |
| vinod1 | vinod to come up with alternatives to recordsets | 17:06 |
| vinod1 | I have a proposal on the records vs recordsets at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Blueprints/RecordSets | 17:06 |
| vinod1 | anybody had a chance to read up on that? | 17:06 |
| vinod1 | Betsy is coming up with another proposal now | 17:06 |
| betsy | I read it. And I have a slightly different proposal but haven't had a chance to write it up yet | 17:06 |
| eankutse | I did | 17:06 |
| betsy | Can we postpone until next week? | 17:07 |
| tsimmons | I read it. | 17:07 |
| rjrjr_ | i read it. i'm still not understanding why we are concerned with this. DNS servers seem to handle different TTLs for records in record sets. | 17:07 |
| vinod1 | The RFC states that this should be an error | 17:07 |
| rjrjr_ | which RFC? | 17:08 |
| vinod1 | http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2181 Section 5 | 17:08 |
| betsy | RFC 2181 | 17:08 |
| vinod1 | since kiall and mugsie aren't around and they would have some input to this | 17:08 |
| vinod1 | we can move this to next week | 17:08 |
| betsy | vinod1: agreed | 17:09 |
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| vinod1 | #action all - add/review recordset proposals | 17:09 |
| rjrjr_ | okay. i like the blueprint. 8^) seems to handle the issue elegantly. | 17:09 |
| vinod1 | the next action item too from the last week was the same | 17:10 |
| vinod1 | Everyone to think about RRSets, reread the logs from the conversation, and come with alternatives and pro's con's | 17:10 |
| vinod1 | kiall to dig up ML archive entries around tenant id's in URLs | 17:10 |
| betsy | I'll write up mine, which is a slight variation on Vinod's | 17:10 |
| vinod1 | kiall did mention this in the irc chat | 17:10 |
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| rjrjr_ | that section talks about how the different TTLs are handled though. 8^( | 17:11 |
| vinod1 | section 5.2 states "Should a client receive a response containing RRs from an RRSet with | 17:12 |
| vinod1 | differing TTLs, it should treat this as an error." | 17:12 |
| rjrjr_ | it says it is an error, but goes on to say the client will use the lowest TTL value. | 17:12 |
| rjrjr_ | "client should treat the RRs for all purposes as if all TTLs in the RRSet had been set to the value of the lowest TTL in the RRSet." | 17:13 |
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| vinod1 | yes that is in case the client gets an incorrect response | 17:13 |
| vinod1 | But "In no case may a server send an RRSet with TTLs not all equal." | 17:14 |
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| rjrjr_ | so why not handle it the same when a zone transfer is requested? send them RRSet with the TTL of the lowest record. | 17:14 |
| rjrjr_ | them = the | 17:14 |
| vinod1 | doing that would mean that the data that the user enter via the api is not the same as the data that is served out | 17:14 |
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| rjrjr_ | what i'm suggesting is handle it the same way it is handled now in servers. BIND doesn't prevent me from creating this situation. | 17:15 |
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| betsy | rjrjr_: I think that would be valid. | 17:15 |
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| betsy | But it could be confusing to the user if they didn't realize that only one ttl would be implemented | 17:16 |
| rjrjr_ | but they face that issue now in DNS. do other servers point out when the admin is doing this? | 17:16 |
| vinod1 | i am not sure. | 17:17 |
| vinod1 | looks like we need more discussion around this next week | 17:17 |
| betsy | AWS has the concept of RecordSets | 17:17 |
| betsy | I tried to read up on their docs, but it was confusing as they don't use REST | 17:17 |
| betsy | vinod1: yes | 17:17 |
| vinod1 | rjrjr_: could you add your thoughts to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Blueprints/RecordSets | 17:18 |
| vinod1 | betsy could you add your proposal to the same page | 17:18 |
| rjrjr_ | sure. | 17:18 |
| betsy | yes | 17:18 |
| vinod1 | that way others can review all the discussion around this in one place | 17:18 |
| vinod1 | #action rjrjr_ to update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Blueprints/RecordSets with his thoughts | 17:18 |
| vinod1 | #action betsy update https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Blueprints/RecordSets with alternate proposal | 17:18 |
| vinod1 | moving on | 17:19 |
| vinod1 | #topic Capture the Notification Context in Designate Sink Blueprint | 17:19 |
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| vinod1 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/sink-capture-notification-context | 17:19 |
| rjrjr_ | this one is simple. the notification contains the context (user, tenant, etc.) and i thought it would be a good idea to capture it for use in the notification handlers. | 17:20 |
| rjrjr_ | i also submitted the code for review for this one. | 17:20 |
| vinod1 | i haven't had a chance to look at them | 17:21 |
| vinod1 | but at a glance this looks like a good idea | 17:22 |
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| vinod1 | anyone else want to comment on this? | 17:22 |
| eankutse | I'll take a look at it | 17:22 |
| rjrjr_ | that way, the notification handler can do context related operations. for example, i have a notification handler that relies on the context to select the forward domain that a record will be added to. | 17:22 |
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| betsy | I haven't looked at it yet. :( | 17:23 |
| betsy | makes sense at first glance | 17:23 |
| vinod1 | #action all look at the blueprint and review sink-capture-notification-context | 17:23 |
| vinod1 | #topic Fixed IP PTR Record API Blueprint | 17:23 |
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| vinod1 | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/designate/+spec/fixed-ip-ptrs | 17:24 |
| rjrjr_ | i also submitted the code for review for this one. 8^) | 17:24 |
| betsy | So I had a question | 17:24 |
| eankutse | rjrjr_: I will look at the code as well | 17:24 |
| betsy | I don't know that much about fixed IP PTRS, but this is basically to track who owns the IP, correct? | 17:24 |
| rjrjr_ | fixed IPs are the private IPs for a VM. | 17:25 |
| jmcbride | rjrjr_: so private, not public? | 17:25 |
| rjrjr_ | i believe so. floating = public, fixed = private. | 17:25 |
| betsy | Ah | 17:26 |
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| jmcbride | like a 10 or 192 or 172? | 17:26 |
| rjrjr_ | in our case, fixed = private and public. we don't have floating. | 17:26 |
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| betsy | So does Nova keep track of who owns an IP for a VM? | 17:26 |
| rjrjr_ | Neutron does via ports. a port has a subnet, a subnet has a IP. | 17:26 |
| betsy | Just asking because we currently don't track this info in our DNS system. It's tracked outside of that | 17:26 |
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| betsy | Does it track that back to the tenant_id or project_id? | 17:27 |
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| rjrjr_ | tenant ID | 17:27 |
| rjrjr_ | Nova has the VM information which contains the IP address. | 17:27 |
| rjrjr_ | Port has the IP address. | 17:28 |
| jmcbride | So you are saying Designate should own the tenant to IP address relationship? | 17:28 |
| rjrjr_ | in the code, i look up the ports for a tenant, get the IP address, to validate the request is proper. | 17:28 |
| rjrjr_ | this code is basically finishing the work that was started with floating IP PTR API. | 17:29 |
| vinod1 | who owns ports - is it neutron? | 17:29 |
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| rjrjr_ | Neutron | 17:29 |
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| vinod1 | is there a 1 to 1 relationship between ports and ip addresses? | 17:30 |
| rjrjr_ | no, it is more complicated than that. | 17:30 |
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| rjrjr_ | a port can have more than one IP. | 17:30 |
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| rjrjr_ | think network ports. a server can have an interface which has multiple IPs. ditto for routers, etc. | 17:31 |
| rjrjr_ | Neutron is capturing that port information. | 17:31 |
| rjrjr_ | capturing = modelling. | 17:31 |
| vinod1 | so when you say "i look up the ports for a tenant", does designate contact neutron to get the ports for a tenant? | 17:31 |
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| rjrjr_ | yes, i look up the ports and IP addresses. that way, i'm validating the request for the tenant wanting to add the record to the reverse zone. | 17:32 |
| rjrjr_ | in designate reverse zones are "shared" among tenants, hence the need for the floating IP PTR and fixed IP PTR API. | 17:33 |
| rjrjr_ | so, in the code, i query neutron for a list of ports for a tenant. the floating IP code does the same for floating IPs. it just happens that floating IPs are modelled in Neutron. the closest we have for fixed IPs is ports/subnets/IPs. | 17:34 |
| vinod1 | so the decision to do fixed or floating controlled by a config setting? | 17:35 |
| rjrjr_ | no, API calls. /reverse/floatingips versus /reverse/fixedips | 17:35 |
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| rjrjr_ | in Nova, not sure, but you can do just floating, just fixed, or both. | 17:36 |
| rjrjr_ | i'm guessing we'll need to carry this discussion to next week. 8^) | 17:37 |
| vinod1 | if 192.168.1.0 is a fixedip | 17:37 |
| vinod1 | can we create a floatingip to it? | 17:37 |
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| rjrjr_ | no. | 17:37 |
| jmcbride | rjrjr_: we were going to get together after this meeting to clarify some details on our end. Can we get back to you? | 17:38 |
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| vinod1 | so how would this be prevented - when designate queries neutron for floatingips? | 17:38 |
| rjrjr_ | yes. | 17:38 |
| rjrjr_ | vinod1, correct. | 17:38 |
| vinod1 | ok moving on | 17:38 |
| vinod1 | #topic Is Designate handling Region properly (Floating IP and Fixed IP PTR API)? | 17:39 |
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| rjrjr_ | man, without kiall/mugsy, not sure if we can discuss this. | 17:39 |
| rjrjr_ | http://kimizhang.wordpress.com/2013/08/26/openstack-zoning-regionavailability-zonehost-aggregate/ | 17:39 |
| betsy | rjrjr_: agreed | 17:39 |
| rjrjr_ | where does Designate fall into this picture? | 17:39 |
| vinod1 | #link http://kimizhang.wordpress.com/2013/08/26/openstack-zoning-regionavailability-zonehost-aggregate/ | 17:39 |
| rjrjr_ | is it like Keystone and Horizon? | 17:40 |
| rjrjr_ | and spans regions? or is it like Glance, Cinder, Swift, etc. and region specific? | 17:40 |
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| vinod1 | i would think that designate would need to span regions | 17:41 |
| betsy | Seems like DNS would have to span regions | 17:41 |
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| betsy | But I've never seen that chart before | 17:41 |
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| rjrjr_ | this question came out of the API for floating IP PTR/fixed IP PTR API. | 17:41 |
| rjrjr_ | the API has /reverse/floatingips/<region>:<floating-ip-id> | 17:42 |
| rjrjr_ | the resource identifier is strange <region>:<floating-ip-id> | 17:42 |
| rjrjr_ | if Designate spans regions, should we fix the API to /region/<region>/reverse/floatingips/<floating-ip-id> or something like that? | 17:43 |
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| msisk | I can see the need for supporting Designate for both fixed and floating. | 17:43 |
| rjrjr_ | i've seen this /region/<region> in another OpenStack API. i'll have to look and see which one. | 17:44 |
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| msisk | Here at Rackspace we'll need Designate to work globally across all our DCs, but I can see other folks wanting each region/DC to have their own designate setup. That certianly makes PTR support easier. | 17:45 |
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| rjrjr_ | hmmm... so Designate may need to participate in a region? | 17:47 |
| betsy | Seems like we need Kiall and Mugsie to weigh in | 17:47 |
| rjrjr_ | agreed. | 17:47 |
| betsy | They've probably already thought about this | 17:47 |
| betsy | Let's table it for next week | 17:47 |
| betsy | Is that okay with you, rjrjr? | 17:48 |
| rjrjr_ | yes. | 17:48 |
| vinod1 | #action discuss Is Designate handling Region properly (Floating IP and Fixed IP PTR API)? | 17:49 |
| vinod1 | #topic Mini-DNS: Can we rename it to something less provoking, like ZoneTransfer Module? | 17:49 |
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| vinod1 | If minidns would be the master server, would calling it ZoneTransfer indicate that? | 17:49 |
| eankutse | we already decided on a name, right? | 17:49 |
| jmcbride | The only reason I proposed this is it seems to make people worry that we are over-engineering things. | 17:49 |
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| jmcbride | A common response is, "What! You are writing your own name server??" | 17:50 |
| rjrjr_ | i believe kiall said it does more than zone transfers though. for example, it will need to serve SOA records as part of the zone transfer negotiation. | 17:50 |
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| jmcbride | true. | 17:51 |
| rjrjr_ | so, zone transfer is just a subset of what it will be doing. | 17:51 |
| betsy | That's why it's real name is mdns, pronounced MaDNesS :) | 17:51 |
| jmcbride | and I know we envision it may do much more. | 17:51 |
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| jmcbride | OK, well, seems like mdns is not a bad approach, I think we can close this topic. | 17:52 |
| jmcbride | since mdns is the name. | 17:52 |
| jmcbride | the "name" | 17:52 |
| vinod1 | #topic Pecan issues (bugs 1288830 and 1288834) | 17:52 |
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| vinod1 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1288830 | 17:52 |
| vinod1 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1288834 | 17:52 |
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| vinod1 | The primary concern here was that these issues arose because of the way pecan handles these urls | 17:53 |
| vinod1 | I looked at other (incubated) openstack projects. Only Ceilometer appears to use Pecan. | 17:53 |
| vinod1 | The question now is Should we follow up with Pecan about this issues? | 17:53 |
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| vinod1 | are there any volunteers for this? | 17:54 |
| vinod1 | the other question was Should the rest of openstack community be informed about these issues? | 17:54 |
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| betsy | I think that's a good idea. We should send out an email to the dev email list with the concern | 17:55 |
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| betsy | See what the rest of the community thinks | 17:55 |
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| betsy | I'll send out the email | 17:56 |
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| vinod1 | #action betsy to send out email to dev list about pecan issues | 17:56 |
| vinod1 | thanks betsy | 17:56 |
| vinod1 | any more things that need discussion | 17:56 |
| vinod1 | now is your time | 17:56 |
| rjrjr_ | i have a concern. | 17:56 |
| betsy | We've only got 4 min | 17:56 |
| rjrjr_ | we seem to be bottlenecked when not everyone is on this meeting. is that being addressed? | 17:57 |
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| rjrjr_ | nobody's fault. just seems dysfunctional. | 17:57 |
| betsy | Hasn't happened that often, but you're right | 17:57 |
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| eankutse | right - not that often | 17:58 |
| betsy | rjrjr_: True | 17:58 |
| eankutse | but it sure is better if all attend | 17:58 |
| rjrjr_ | overall, our progress seems slow at times though. 8^( | 17:58 |
| jmcbride | given kiall's work, it is definitely difficult to make a lot of progress if he's not around. | 17:58 |
| vinod1 | i think once we have more expertise of designate spread around, this issue will not be there | 17:58 |
| betsy | I think that will change over time, though | 17:58 |
| rjrjr_ | okay | 17:58 |
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| betsy | But you bring up a good point | 17:59 |
| vinod1 | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 26 17:59:23 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-03-26-17.03.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-03-26-17.03.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2014/designate.2014-03-26-17.03.log.html | 17:59 |
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| amrith | meeting? | 18:00 |
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| grapex | o/ | 18:00 |
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| amrith | 0/ | 18:01 |
| hub_cap | yuppers | 18:01 |
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| hub_cap | #startmeeting trove | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 26 18:01:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hub_cap. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)" | 18:01 | |
| vipul | o/ | 18:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'trove' | 18:01 |
| grapex | o/ | 18:01 |
| kevinconway | \o/ | 18:01 |
| robertmyers | o/ | 18:01 |
| juice | o/ | 18:01 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 18:01 |
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| peterstac | o/ | 18:01 |
| doug_shelley66 | o/ | 18:01 |
| cp16net | (ʘ෴̴͜ʘ) | 18:01 |
| hub_cap | umm | 18:02 |
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| vipul | woah | 18:02 |
| SnowDust | <o> | 18:02 |
| cp16net | lol | 18:02 |
| amcrn | o/ | 18:02 |
| juice | cp16net: I know you have been waiting all week for this | 18:02 |
| amrith | in some language that must look pretty | 18:02 |
| amytron | o/ | 18:02 |
| juice | cp16net: you probably got up early to rehearse: | 18:02 |
| hub_cap | lol juice | 18:02 |
| SnowDust | juice: LOL | 18:02 |
| amytron | juice: how did you know?! | 18:02 |
| amcrn | the early bird gets the worm juice, don't be jealous ;) | 18:02 |
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| hub_cap | #topic openstack summit | 18:02 |
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| grapex | juice: What's interesting is cp16net in real life has no mustache | 18:03 |
| hub_cap | so, we only have 1 session proposed | 18:03 |
| esmute | o/ | 18:03 |
| vgnbkr | o/ | 18:03 |
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| kevinconway | hub_cap: we could probably fill several days of the conference with users | 18:03 |
| hub_cap | lets rally and get some sessions pushed up | 18:03 |
| hub_cap | LOOL kevinconway | 18:03 |
| cp16net | hah | 18:03 |
| vipul | what's the deadline? | 18:03 |
| cp16net | let do eet | 18:04 |
| annashen_ | o/ | 18:04 |
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| hub_cap | vipul: good question, idont know | 18:04 |
| SlickNik | I'm looking at pushing up info for a couple of sessions by the end of this week. | 18:04 |
| hub_cap | les say today | 18:04 |
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| hub_cap | ;) | 18:04 |
| vipul | :p | 18:04 |
| hub_cap | ok lets try to push someting, anything, by EOW | 18:04 |
| cp16net | word | 18:04 |
| hub_cap | remember, anyone can propose | 18:04 |
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| hub_cap | and u can update it once u propose | 18:05 |
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| hub_cap | i wont start scheduling for about 2 more wks | 18:05 |
| hub_cap | so i guess ill speak about the process a bit | 18:05 |
| hub_cap | just so we are aware | 18:05 |
| hub_cap | so anyone proposes to summit.o.o | 18:06 |
| hub_cap | and i take those and i have the abilty to schedule them, regject them, mark as dups etc | 18:06 |
| hub_cap | i rely on the core team to help | 18:06 |
| hub_cap | so we can all get it iron outdddddddddddddd | 18:07 |
| hub_cap | ^ ^ joke for grapex | 18:07 |
| hub_cap | any questions on the process? | 18:07 |
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| doug_shelley66 | i assume the actual time/room scheduling is done by the conf organizers? | 18:07 |
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| hub_cap | so the blocks of time are done by ttx | 18:07 |
| doug_shelley66 | so could be scattered anywhere across the 4 days | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | and he consults the ptls to talk about the room blocks and how they coincide | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | and if there are conflicts | 18:08 |
| amytron | if a session is marked as a dup, do the two proposers need to pair up? | 18:08 |
| doug_shelley66 | ah ok | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | but once we have a "block" we are in the same room | 18:08 |
| vipul | do we get > 1 day now? | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | amytron: if they wish :) | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | vipul: nope but we get a full day iirc | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | or 2x the ammt of sessions | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | as for dups | 18:08 |
| hub_cap | the one that is best written up usually "wins" | 18:09 |
| hub_cap | but i will consult both authors and get them to work together | 18:09 |
| hub_cap | these are design sessions, so both authors will likely bein the same room anyway | 18:09 |
| hub_cap | so doug_shelley66 to reiterate (not sure if i did) we have 1 room the entire time | 18:10 |
| vipul | yea and for folks new... these are super informal.. the presenter just starts the discussion | 18:10 |
| doug_shelley66 | hub_cap from tues to friday? or just 1 day? | 18:10 |
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| vipul | doesn't ahve to have everything prepared | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | doug_shelley66: 1 day, back to back to back to back | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | yup vipul, we end up having an etherpad / blueprint | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | and then discuss it | 18:10 |
| grapex | hub_cap: If all of ours end up being on the same day then I submit "Trove: Nap time" to be preceded by juice boxes. | 18:10 |
| juice | hub_cap: will the revolution be televised? | 18:10 |
| hub_cap | and this time we wont have HELLA jetlag | 18:10 |
| juice | or for those that are not there, they just don't participate | 18:11 |
| hub_cap | grapex: did u consult juice ? | 18:11 |
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| hub_cap | juice: ummm i think we are getting better w/ televising | 18:11 |
| juice | I know openstack provides video that next day or the day after | 18:11 |
| hub_cap | but in the past its been pretty bad heh | 18:11 |
| grapex | hub_cap: I actually meant juice which give us each a specially wrapped box with a present he picked out for us. | 18:11 |
| hub_cap | grapex: ++ | 18:11 |
| kevinconway | so do the proposers need to also be presenters? | 18:11 |
| cp16net | how many session will we have? | 18:12 |
| amytron | should we plan to stay for a full day on friday? are there usually a lot of sessions planned on the last day? | 18:12 |
| hub_cap | amytron: the sessions go till EOD friday | 18:12 |
| amrith | hub_cap: since some of us plan to come in late or leave early (not stay the whole week) it would help to know which day was the trove design sessions | 18:12 |
| hub_cap | and there is _always_ a possiblity we will have sessions "moved" to friday because of conflicts | 18:12 |
| hub_cap | amrith: ill ask ttx if what hes proposes is irond out | 18:13 |
| amrith | can we assume that there are no design sessions on Monday and Tuesday? | 18:13 |
| amrith | only W, T and F? | 18:13 |
| hub_cap | but if say, 2 other projects are conflicting and they need us to switch | 18:13 |
| hub_cap | i wont say no | 18:13 |
| hub_cap | there was a bit of switching in HK but not a ton | 18:13 |
| hub_cap | and i ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS recommend staying the whole time | 18:14 |
| vipul | amrith: i think sessions will be T-F | 18:14 |
| amrith | ok, any heads up you can provide in this regard would be much appreciated. | 18:14 |
| doug_shelley66 | but you are saying that when you pick the topics you will only pick enough to fill 1 day? | 18:14 |
| hub_cap | yes vipul T-F | 18:14 |
| hub_cap | doug_shelley66: i will pick enough to fill our slots we are given | 18:14 |
| esmute | T for tuesday or thursday? | 18:14 |
| amytron | what time is "EOD" on friday? | 18:14 |
| hub_cap | TUE-FRI | 18:14 |
| vipul | lol | 18:14 |
| amrith | t for thursday | 18:14 |
| amrith | oh | 18:14 |
| SlickNik | T=Tuesday | 18:14 |
| hub_cap | monday is just keyonets | 18:14 |
| amrith | t for tuesday | 18:14 |
| vipul | good thing you clarified :) | 18:14 |
| amrith | ok | 18:14 |
| hub_cap | its on the splash page yall | 18:14 |
| amrith | good thing you clarified | 18:14 |
| vipul | https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-atlanta-2014/ | 18:15 |
| vipul | scroll down :) | 18:15 |
| SlickNik | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-atlanta-2014/ | 18:15 |
| hub_cap | thx vipul i was just getting that too | 18:15 |
| hub_cap | thx SlickNik | 18:15 |
| hub_cap | but srsly guys, i ALWAYS recommend staying, but a good bit of people do leave early | 18:15 |
| hub_cap | so if u leave, and we have a friday session, then ill be there to hold down the fort | 18:15 |
| cp16net | i just make the decisions for everyone | 18:16 |
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| cp16net | :-P | 18:17 |
| cp16net | j/k | 18:17 |
| esmute | you guys dont want to miss the party that we throw out anyways | 18:17 |
| hub_cap | esmute: plz tell me yer party is not friday LOL | 18:17 |
| juice | HP is cutting budget this year so we are trying to minimize attendees to the party | 18:18 |
| esmute | throw down* Thanks juice for correcting | 18:18 |
| esmute | lol | 18:18 |
| hub_cap | juice: WEAK ;) | 18:18 |
| juice | just kidding | 18:18 |
| amrith | ah, I see. cost cutting, everyone brings their own juice. I'm claiming first dibs on juice ;) | 18:18 |
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| juice | I'm sure we will have all you can eat chicken and waffles | 18:18 |
| hub_cap | amrith: ummmmmmmmmm u can have all dibs on juice | 18:18 |
| hub_cap | ;) | 18:18 |
| cp16net | thats delish | 18:18 |
| doug_shelley66 | should i sell my HP stock? | 18:18 |
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| juice | doug_shelley66: it's skyrocketing | 18:19 |
| doug_shelley66 | ah because of the cost cutting :) i see | 18:19 |
| hub_cap | dude im so having c&w there | 18:19 |
| juice | what's the next topic :) | 18:19 |
| hub_cap | lol ya | 18:19 |
| vipul | lol juice doesn't want to get caught giving insider trading advice :) | 18:20 |
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| hub_cap | amrith: is up :) | 18:20 |
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| amrith | ok | 18:20 |
| hub_cap | #topic datastore abstraction | 18:20 |
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| amrith | Two related topics that I want to discuss. | 18:20 |
| amrith | One is the blueprint for the proposed change; not for icehouse, likely later. | 18:20 |
| amrith | The second is the review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82080/ | 18:20 |
| amrith | To the blue print. | 18:20 |
| amrith | Unix'es have implemented abstractions like /etc/init.d or upstart to address the issue of a simple mechanism to handle service start and stop. It is an abstraction that allows the OS to easily start and stop services, and for the services to implement basic functionality in this regard. | 18:20 |
| hub_cap | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/trove-guest-agent-datastore-control | 18:20 |
| amrith | yes, that one | 18:20 |
| hub_cap | amrith: nothign is for icehouse anymore ;) | 18:20 |
| amrith | absolutely | 18:21 |
| amrith | says so in the bug and the bp | 18:21 |
| amrith | Unfortunately, there are more than one standard. | 18:21 |
| amrith | Therefore, a meta service like the guest agent needs to build an abstraction layer as well. | 18:21 |
| amrith | The benefits are obvious. | 18:21 |
| amrith | We should not have bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1295313 | 18:21 |
| amrith | The common abstraction would provide a mechanism in which each data store would describe the right way to start/stop/control itself. | 18:21 |
| amrith | Defaults would be provided (use service start) or some such. | 18:21 |
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| amrith | so I guess my first question to core is this ... | 18:22 |
| amrith | I've not done any of the implementation (yet) | 18:22 |
| amrith | have some thoughts on the implementation though | 18:22 |
| amrith | should this BP move to the BP review meeting which is on Monday or can we discuss now? | 18:22 |
| amrith | reason I put it on now is because I have a part 2 to this conversation | 18:22 |
| juice | amrith: I think you keep going | 18:23 |
| yogesh | amrith: are we talking about an interface which all the guest agents should implement OR are u talking about a base guest agent implementation...? | 18:23 |
| amrith | I am talking about an interface that would be part of each guest agent | 18:23 |
| amrith | right now, there's some code in operating_system.py which attempts to abstract some of this knowledge | 18:23 |
| vipul | so each datastore manager implement start() and stop()? and the logic for each datastore would be different? | 18:24 |
| amrith | so each data store will tell how it wants start() and stop() to be done | 18:24 |
| juice | amrith: a question off the top of my head is isn't the abstraction in the datastore/manager.py enough | 18:24 |
| amrith | it could simply be to say "use service" in some fashion | 18:24 |
| amrith | juice, I'll get to that in a second | 18:24 |
| grapex | amrith: So this is just helped code to call the unix based stop / start scripts for an implementation if you want | 18:24 |
| grapex | ? | 18:24 |
| amrith | to vipul's quesiton, a data store that has a simple service command (eg mysql) would just use that but would explicitly state that. | 18:25 |
| amrith | for a sevice (say cassandra) it would be the same thing | 18:25 |
| amrith | for mongo on the other hand, the data store would provide the commands to execute for start/stop etc., | 18:25 |
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| amrith | to juice's question: the code in oeprating system.py is called adhoc by some data stores (I believe). | 18:26 |
| amrith | and the code attempts to guess based on what it sees on the file system | 18:26 |
| grapex | amrith: But what if a Trove operator wants to run MySQL on Windows? | 18:26 |
| amrith | it attempts to pick which to do in some order | 18:26 |
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| grapex | J/k! | 18:26 |
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| amrith | but if we have a data store (for example) that requires multiple services, the code in oeprating system.py is not capable enough | 18:27 |
| amrith | so in effect, we have a situation where each data store has to implement or adopt the code in operating_system.py | 18:27 |
| amrith | instead, I'm proposing that in order to avoid bugs like the one amcrn found, that we make this a clear abstraction. | 18:27 |
| amrith | to grapex question, yes | 18:27 |
| amrith | it may not be scripts | 18:27 |
| grapex | amrith: This sounds like it's just adding some helper code different implementations can choose to use. Doesn't seem too controversial. | 18:28 |
| amrith | it may be commands that have to be run | 18:28 |
| amrith | for example "mongodb --shutdown" | 18:28 |
| amrith | grapex, i think the implementation would be along the lines you are proposing | 18:28 |
| vipul | +1 i think each manager owning its own stop/start routines is good.. shouldnt' try to shoehorn everything into a single class | 18:28 |
| amrith | it is largely helper code | 18:28 |
| amrith | and it will allow each data store to pick its own start/stop without necessarily duplicating the code in many places | 18:28 |
| amrith | and it would handle things like cleaning up PID files etc., | 18:29 |
| amrith | which a simple KILL command doesn't do | 18:29 |
| amrith | to the question of windows, sure it is supported, in v16 | 18:29 |
| amrith | j/k | 18:29 |
| SlickNik | amrith: +1 I think this is a good idea. | 18:29 |
| amrith | so, my second process question. | 18:30 |
| amcrn | +1, on-board. | 18:30 |
| amrith | what's the next stop? | 18:30 |
| vipul | atlanta | 18:30 |
| amrith | I flesh out the implementation details in the BP and come back to all-y'all at Atlanta? | 18:30 |
| vipul | j/k I think this is a minor one | 18:30 |
| amrith | ok, thx vipul | 18:30 |
| amrith | now to the more controversial issue | 18:31 |
| SlickNik | amrith: Clarification, does this tackle discovery of the start stop service? (systemd vs. upstart, for example) or is that v2? | 18:31 |
| vipul | actually you should just fix it and do it before that | 18:31 |
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| vipul | if it's possible.. no need to wait for summit | 18:31 |
| amrith | one second | 18:31 |
| amrith | SlickNick, answer re: discovery | 18:31 |
| amrith | I will try and keep that logic around | 18:31 |
| amrith | but I'm dubious about it | 18:31 |
| amrith | let me think more and come back to you with a cogent argument rather than some rambling | 18:32 |
| amrith | OK? | 18:32 |
| amrith | vipul: were you talking about the more controversial issue (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82080/)? | 18:32 |
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| amrith | this is the other half of amcrn's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81914/ | 18:33 |
| SlickNik | amrith: Sounds good. | 18:33 |
| amrith | SlickNick: thx | 18:33 |
| vipul | amrith: i guess i don't know why this one is so controversial.. seems like we shoudl be using service stop for c* | 18:33 |
| amrith | I don't know why it is that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81914/ is +1 but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82080/ is -1. I assume we don't have to rehash the email exchanges re: the MySQL bug that was part of the discussion of amcrn's fix. I was asked to "provide proof" which I did. But the person asking for it is now silent. | 18:33 |
| amrith | CORE: What is your guidance on this? | 18:33 |
| amrith | could I get a code review either up or down for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82080/ | 18:34 |
| hub_cap | well amrith if it was denis_makogon its cuz he had to leave for the meeting | 18:34 |
| kevinconway | i'd prefer a dramatic reading of the email exchanges | 18:34 |
| amrith | I can't grok why service start works in ubuntu but service stop doesn't ;) | 18:34 |
| grapex | Who here is using Casandra or running it today? | 18:34 |
| hub_cap | kill should not be used | 18:34 |
| vipul | if you say it works.. i'd +2 it :D | 18:34 |
| amrith | kevinconway: action item, I'll do the dramatic reading (in costume in Atlanta) | 18:34 |
| konetzed | amrith: why arnt these config values and not hardcoded | 18:34 |
| konetzed | ? | 18:34 |
| SlickNik | amrith: I'd +2 the review based on Viswa's reply. We should _not_ be using kill. | 18:34 |
| amrith | I pasted into chat a login session with service start and stop | 18:35 |
| konetzed | amrith: so anyone can use what ever they want for start and stop w/o having to change the code | 18:35 |
| amrith | ViswaV and I had a very detailed discussion of this as well | 18:35 |
| vipul | amcrn: what do you think? you guys run cassandra? | 18:35 |
| amcrn | yeah, let me test the stop server command, and ensure it works | 18:36 |
| amrith | konetzed: the idea is that in the blueprint they would be to make this do'able | 18:36 |
| amcrn | because it looks like everyone agrees that kill is overkill if service-stop works | 18:36 |
| hub_cap | konetzed: i think thats a good question | 18:36 |
| grapex | amcrn: That's my view- it's overkill, *if* something else works. | 18:36 |
| amrith | give me a second and I'll find the URL to the paste | 18:36 |
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| grapex | I'll admit it everyone... I'm not above writing a call to "kill" into the guest code, but only if there's a great reason. Probably don't want to kill a service we'll be handing to end users either. | 18:37 |
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| grapex | Better for an admin to log in and figure out why it won't die. | 18:37 |
| kevinconway | we can use Python's os.kill() | 18:37 |
| kevinconway | skip the subshell | 18:37 |
| grapex | kevinconway: But first we'll call grep to get the process ID, so we know we have the right one. | 18:38 |
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| vipul | yea than we wouldn't feel so guilty | 18:38 |
| amrith | http://paste.openstack.org/show/74160/ | 18:38 |
| amrith | so, there's more to killing the process than the kill with the right pid | 18:38 |
| hub_cap | so amrith i think koko is saying make the start/stop/restart configurable from the config.file | 18:38 |
| amrith | there's also the issue of cleaning up a pid file | 18:38 |
| hub_cap | as opposed to putting it in a .py file | 18:39 |
| amrith | tht would be a good option for the bp | 18:39 |
| hub_cap | yea i think thats valid, so if kevinconway wants to use pkill w/ his bash agent he can | 18:39 |
| amrith | do you want to do that now, given that amcrn's fix is in already? | 18:39 |
| esmute | lol | 18:39 |
| amrith | amcrn: pl take a look at the paste output I put above | 18:39 |
| SnowDust | koko :D ! | 18:39 |
| amrith | it has the service start/stop | 18:39 |
| kevinconway | pkill -9 -f * to be exact | 18:39 |
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| amrith | hub_cap: you proposed init 0 yesterday. That worked. | 18:40 |
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| hub_cap | HAHAHAHA | 18:40 |
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| amrith | so what does core propose? | 18:40 |
| amrith | I have a +1 and a -1 | 18:40 |
| juice | kevinconway: the ONLY problem with that is that the guest agent won't be around to report back status | 18:40 |
| hub_cap | i think we should do this | 18:40 |
| kevinconway | juice: it's scheduled on a cron job to restart | 18:40 |
| kevinconway | self-healing | 18:40 |
| hub_cap | but i also think we should go further and make it configurable | 18:41 |
| hub_cap | lol kevinconway | 18:41 |
| grapex | hub_cap: Agreed | 18:41 |
| amrith | if a data store dies in the forest and there is no guest agent to see, does it send a notification? | 18:41 |
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| amrith | so hub_cap: do you want to do that for both start and stop, now? | 18:41 |
| grapex | amrith: Nope. | 18:41 |
| amrith | I'm asking the tactical question for now | 18:41 |
| hub_cap | amrith: im pretty sure i saw a commercial about that recently | 18:41 |
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| SlickNik | We could make it configurable as part of the abstraction bp amrith suggested previously. | 18:41 |
| grapex | hub_cap: Was it for life insurance? | 18:42 |
| hub_cap | so amrith i think its ok to do that in multiple parts, but i dont think itll be a ton of work to do them together | 18:42 |
| hub_cap | grapex: it was for toaster pastries | 18:42 |
| grapex | hub_cap: Odd | 18:42 |
| hub_cap | hahahahaha | 18:42 |
| hub_cap | vipul: SlickNik grapex what do yall think? | 18:43 |
| grapex | I am down for this blueprint. I do think in the future we might want to make things more configurable but this seems like it will work for everyone atm. | 18:43 |
| SlickNik | I'm good with doing it incrementally. | 18:43 |
| vipul | i'm ok with the current patch, and as part of the start() stop() abstraction mentioned earlier.. we can make it somehwat configurable | 18:43 |
| konetzed | i think it should end up configurable sooner rather then later but i think its ok getting in amrith changes in now, just my 3 cents | 18:44 |
| esmute | what is being configurable? Whether to use systemd/upstart/killall etc? | 18:44 |
| cp16net | looking at this more i think all of the {datastore}/system.py is just a big configuration | 18:45 |
| cp16net | shouldnt this be in configurations? | 18:45 |
| hub_cap | ++ | 18:45 |
| SnowDust | cp16net : +1 | 18:45 |
| amrith | OK folks, I'll be prepared to talk more about this in Atlanta (the blueprint, that is). if you approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82080/ it is good to go. | 18:45 |
| SnowDust | if cfg.py defines datastore options why not start/stop/ for it as commands too ? | 18:46 |
| amrith | cp16net: yes I think it should be configurations but preferably in some way such that you don't have duplicated code that ends up being a bug fix requiring identical changes in five places. | 18:46 |
| robertmyers | SnowDust: yes, we should do that | 18:47 |
| amrith | SnowDust: that is a good place to put it. | 18:47 |
| amrith | Other thoughts? hub_cap, amcrn, grapex, SlickNick | 18:48 |
| hub_cap | honestly | 18:49 |
| hub_cap | this file is a big config file just like its been said already | 18:49 |
| hub_cap | we should, porbably in a diff review | 18:49 |
| hub_cap | move it all to config based w/ sane defaults | 18:49 |
| grapex | hub_cap: And once the freeze thaws lets move the guest agent around a bit | 18:49 |
| grapex | I think at that time it'll be pretty simple to see how the configs work and whoever fixes it might get an easier consensus. | 18:50 |
| hub_cap | we could probably do CONF.ubuntu.blah and CONF.redhat.blah (im sure we can come up w/ better names but u get the point) | 18:50 |
| hub_cap | ++ | 18:50 |
| SnowDust | amrith, my bp that abstracts cfg.py for datastore options https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/refactoring-datastore-options-in-cfg is already approved, i can extend that to include what i was talking | 18:50 |
| amcrn | sorry, back, was on phone call | 18:50 |
| amrith | SnowDust: let's talk about that approach | 18:50 |
| amrith | will u be in Atlanta? | 18:50 |
| hub_cap | way to go amcrn we wouldnve never known | 18:51 |
| hub_cap | amrith: this should be solvable befoere atl | 18:51 |
| grapex | amrith: Maybe we don't need to wait until Atlanta | 18:51 |
| hub_cap | LOL | 18:51 |
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| amrith | hard to put a face to a name on IRC | 18:51 |
| hub_cap | AHHHHH | 18:51 |
| SnowDust | amrith i got my atendee pass free .. sponsor tesora tickets :) as well .. i will be there :D | 18:51 |
| amrith | austin was good | 18:51 |
| hub_cap | nm then amrith | 18:52 |
| amrith | also for brisket | 18:52 |
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| amrith | and I'm a vegetarian | 18:52 |
| hub_cap | YESHHHHH | 18:52 |
| hub_cap | ok so one last thing | 18:52 |
| hub_cap | i assume we are done w/ this | 18:52 |
| hub_cap | amrith: do u feel good about the outcome? | 18:52 |
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| hub_cap | service is valid | 18:52 |
| amrith | I'm assuming that reviewers will do their +1's offline | 18:52 |
| amrith | I'm good | 18:52 |
| amrith | thx all | 18:52 |
| amcrn | so reading through the chat log: we're going to merge the service start/stop (assuming stop actually works), but in the long-term amrith and others will work out the long-term strategy? | 18:52 |
| hub_cap | but we also need to eventually make tehse configurable | 18:52 |
| amrith | SnowDust: sorry have to dissapoint on the tickets | 18:52 |
| hub_cap | amcrn: gosh why dont u say waht i said but smarter | 18:53 |
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| SnowDust | amrith: .. will feel happy to discuss on the approach anyway | 18:53 |
| amcrn | :) | 18:53 |
| hub_cap | #topic icehouse rc1 | 18:53 |
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| hub_cap | soooooo | 18:53 |
| hub_cap | we are one bug out from being RC1 complete | 18:53 |
| hub_cap | we will merge that today | 18:53 |
| cp16net | yay | 18:54 |
| hub_cap | and ttx will cut RC1 tomorrow | 18:54 |
| SnowDust | congrats !!! | 18:54 |
| cp16net | you feel the excitment? | 18:54 |
| cp16net | (sp) | 18:54 |
| vipul | (party) | 18:54 |
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| SnowDust | cores, <3 | 18:54 |
| grapex | hub_cap: I knew if we tried hard enough we'd eventually be able to merge all the bugs to RC1. | 18:54 |
| SlickNik | hell yea! | 18:54 |
| hub_cap | HAHAH | 18:54 |
| hub_cap | once RC1 is cut | 18:54 |
| grapex | So, when do we ship the CDs? | 18:54 |
| amcrn | grapex: just click +2 next to every review, it's the gates job to protect us, right? | 18:54 |
| hub_cap | grapex: lets let ubuntu do that ;) | 18:54 |
| amcrn | ;) | 18:55 |
| hub_cap | amcrn: ++ | 18:55 |
| SlickNik | lol @ amcrn | 18:55 |
| vipul | grapex: so you can put it in your microwave :p | 18:55 |
| hub_cap | so once RC1 is cut, juno officially opens | 18:55 |
| grapex | I've been looking forward to putting it up next to my copy of Norton Desktop Commander 98. | 18:55 |
| grapex | hub_cap: Awesome. | 18:55 |
| hub_cap | hey m$ opensourced "word for windows" | 18:55 |
| cp16net | grapex: i need 500 hours free | 18:55 |
| amrith | sorry to be the party pooper ... amcrn and grapex (maybe others) have to +1 my review ;) | 18:55 |
| amrith | I'll get right on to the guest agents on Windows blueprint after that | 18:55 |
| vipul | i heard the same for MS DOS... | 18:55 |
| hub_cap | yuppp | 18:56 |
| hub_cap | so i just wanted to say | 18:56 |
| vipul | only 30 years later | 18:56 |
| grapex | vipul: Free Dos as a service.... | 18:56 |
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| hub_cap | core will be looking at all the reviews, so plz dust them off, take them out of abandon mode | 18:56 |
| hub_cap | and rebase them | 18:56 |
| vipul | i bet people are dieing to have that | 18:56 |
| hub_cap | we will likely do a run thru of tox before looking at code | 18:56 |
| hub_cap | recheck no bug ;) | 18:56 |
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| SnowDust | vipul, :p | 18:57 |
| hub_cap | so if your code fails tox, we will not look at it yet ;) | 18:57 |
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| hub_cap | ok so if no one has Qs im going to end this early | 18:58 |
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| kevinconway | o/ gpg keys ==> sign them | 18:58 |
| vipul | oh what about the vote on Cluster API? | 18:58 |
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| kevinconway | i need to wire bitcoins to a wealthy long lost relative in another country | 18:58 |
| kevinconway | i can't do that without a well signed key | 18:58 |
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| vipul | kevinconway: they prefer real money i think | 18:59 |
| amcrn | vipul: imsplitbit doug_shelley66 and myself mentioned in the chat earlier this morning that we need to sync up next week | 18:59 |
| imsplitbit | yeah | 18:59 |
| imsplitbit | I'm in | 18:59 |
| vipul | amcrn: Ok, sounds good.. | 18:59 |
| hub_cap | lol kevinconway | 18:59 |
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| hub_cap | cool on that note | 18:59 |
| hub_cap | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
| amcrn | kevinconway: i hear mt. gox is a great place to send bitcoin | 19:00 |
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| imsplitbit | been tied up in a weeklong meeting this week but next week, other than wednesday, works for me | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 26 19:00:01 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-03-26-18.01.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-03-26-18.01.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2014/trove.2014-03-26-18.01.log.html | 19:00 |
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