Monday, 2017-03-27

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oanson#startmeeting Dragonflow09:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 27 09:00:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oanson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow'09:00
dimakHey09:00
oansonHi09:00
xiaohhuihello09:00
oansonAll right. Who's here for the Dragonflow meeting?09:00
oansonxiaohhui, hi. Glad to see you're still with us :)09:01
xiaohhuiI am about to be back to work09:01
xiaohhuitry to get some warm up09:01
oanson:)09:01
oansonI'll wait another minute and we'll start. I'll try and keep it short today09:02
lihiHi09:02
oanson#info dimak xiaohhui lihi in meeting09:03
oanson#topic Roadmap09:03
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oansonIPv6 - lihi uploaded a patch.09:03
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oanson#link IPv6 in SG https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431566/09:03
lihiI got some comments from xiaohhui09:04
oansonYes.09:04
xiaohhuiyeah, I think they are small comments.09:04
xiaohhuiThe patch looks good to me, especially with lots of tests to verify it.09:04
oansonGreat!09:04
oansonThat leaves only portsec, and then we can say IPv6 is supported, am I right?09:04
lihiThanks:)09:04
lihioanson, yes09:05
oansonCool. Thanks!09:05
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lihioanson, I'll start working on it soon09:05
oansonSFC - dimak has uploaded a patch set. Some of it is still WF-1. The base is here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43957109:05
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dimakI havent made much progress with sfc09:06
dimakDealed mostly with refactor issues09:06
oansonWe'll get to that :)09:06
dimakAnd I'll have to rebase it on the lport patch09:06
oansonChassis health/Service health - I will look into that this week09:06
dimakso back to the shop09:06
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oansonYes. The lport patch really rattled the code09:07
oansonI think it is the major hurdle with the refactor.09:07
oansonQoS I see has been +2ed by xiaohhui. lswitch fails fullstack (I'll look into it)09:08
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oansonSG has been uploaded. From what I saw it looks very close to being ready09:08
xiaohhuiI think we can start to merge the migration code. it is a long dependency.09:08
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oanson(As in, it is ready for review now (: )09:09
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oansonxiaohhui, yes. I'll give nick-ma a chance to see it today, and after that I'll migrate the QoS patch.09:09
oansonlswitch still fails fullstack, so that has to be fixed first :)09:09
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oansonI'll rebase lport on top of new sg patch09:10
xiaohhuiI am rebasing the lrouter patch. Might be ready today.09:10
oansonxiaohhui, don't you need lport for that?09:10
oansonbtw, fip migrate patch is also uploaded (but WIP)09:11
xiaohhuiI think I don't need it.09:11
oansonAll right. Then sure.09:11
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dimakFIP will wait for lport to converge, I also plan to strip it of most of the fields its has since they can be reached by references now09:12
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oansonThis search shows all the migration patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/refactor-nb-api+status:open09:12
dimakWill be done as a second patch though09:12
oansondimak, sure.09:12
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oansonThe same can be done to lport once it's merged as well09:12
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oansonVLAN aware VMs is waiting for the lport patch. So it will probably take a couple more days.09:13
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oansonAnything else for migration? (Since it's a big topic)09:13
dimakI saw your comment on the DB consistency patch09:14
dimakWe have some work to do there09:14
oansonYes.09:14
oansonI don't want 15 db consistency refactor patches. Just one :)09:14
dimakPlus we should figure out how we deal with embedded objects09:14
oansonYou mean like HostRoute, where id = None ?09:14
dimakNot only, even Subnet09:15
dimak(HostRoute is not a model though :P)09:15
oansondimak, maybe we'll do this offline, and when we have some concrete options we'll bring it up for discussion in the channel?09:16
dimakI meant in sense of, do we index them in DbStore? Do we notify on changes?09:16
oanson(I don't want to make everyone wait on this)09:16
dimakSure09:16
oansonLastly - BGP09:16
oansonPlease review xiaohhui's spec.09:16
oanson#link BGP spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/429245/09:16
oanson(Ignore the merge failure. It's not interesting for specs, and the merger can rebase it when all reviews are done)09:17
xiaohhuiI will start with new db model, acutally I have started some work before vocation, but it is still in raw09:17
oansonSure. Do you have an estimate on how long it will take to finish the feature?09:18
oanson(We may have an interested customer)09:18
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xiaohhuibased on the spec, I will give it about one month.09:18
oansonSounds good.09:18
oansonSo I ask again - please review the spec09:19
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oansonAnything else for roadmap?09:19
lihiI'll review it09:19
oansonThanks09:19
xiaohhuiThanks~09:19
oanson#topic Open Discussion09:20
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oansonThe floor is for the taking09:20
oansonAll right, if that's all09:21
oansonI promised I'll keep it short today :)09:21
xiaohhuiYou did it09:21
oanson:)09:21
oansonThanks everyone for coming.09:21
xiaohhui:)09:21
oanson#endmeeting09:21
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lihiThanks!09:21
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tinwoodo/ charmers10:00
vdso/10:00
tinwoodjust wait a little to give time for people to attend10:00
Dmitrii-Sh0/10:01
tinwood\o10:02
tinwoodokay, let's kick off.10:02
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tinwood#startmeeting charms10:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 27 10:02:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tinwood. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.10:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.10:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'charms'10:02
iceyhey folks10:02
tinwoodhi icey.  I'm just sorting out the agenda which seems to be backward.10:04
* sparkiegeek waves10:04
iceylooks like https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting-20170327 is today?10:04
tinwoodagenda is at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-charms-weekly-meeting-2017032710:05
tinwoodyes, but it was a (bad) edit of the even week number.  Anyway, lets get going.10:05
tinwood#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting10:05
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tinwoodo/ sparkiegeek10:05
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tinwoodso, no minutes from the last meeting as we've not really got good at running them at this time.10:06
tinwoodI don't necessarily want to mix up the two meeting's actions unless someone wants to raise them here.10:06
icey+1 tinwood10:06
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tinwoodokay, then, moving on.10:06
tinwood#topic State of Development for next Charm Release10:07
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tinwoodany comments/notes for this topic?10:07
Dmitrii-Sh1 comment but it is not directly related10:07
Dmitrii-Shnetwork binding changes for already deployed charms10:07
Dmitrii-Shthis is general but for openstack it might make sense10:08
tinwoodHow so?10:08
Dmitrii-Shone example I have is a charm that gets an upgrade that requires a binding for one of the endpoints10:08
tinwoodah, so this is on upgrades10:08
tinwoodAre we missing something from documentation.  (i.e. on upgrades or anything else)?10:09
tinwoodor does it just not work.10:09
Dmitrii-Shno, this is something that is not implemented in juju as of now10:09
tinwood?10:09
Dmitrii-ShI though it might be worthwhile to point it out here and push for that feature10:09
iceythanks Dmitrii-Sh10:09
* tinwood is confused.10:10
tinwoodIs this a juju 1 vs 2 issue10:10
tinwood?10:10
iceyit sounds like Juju doesn't support changing network bindings on upgrade Dmitrii-Sh  ?10:10
Dmitrii-Shicey: yes, valid for any juju version10:11
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tinwoodI didn't know this. Does that mean bindings are fixed at deploy/add-unit stage?10:11
Dmitrii-Shtinwood: yes, at deploy stage10:11
tinwoodah, okay.  Is there a related bug raised?10:12
Dmitrii-Shtinwood: not yet - I had a discussion about it yesterday10:12
Dmitrii-Shtinwood: I ended up making a workaround for contail but we might hit that in the future so I am going to raise a bug10:13
tinwoodokay, can you take an action to follow this and either raise a bug or otherwise track the issue?10:13
Dmitrii-Shtinwood: yes, I will ask in the juju-dev first10:13
tinwood#action Dmitrii-Sh track the network-binding not being able to be changed after deploy/add-unit.10:13
tinwoodthanks Dmitrii-Sh10:13
Dmitrii-Shtinwood: and then raise a bug to track this afterwards depending on how conversation goes10:13
tinwoodokay, anything else for this topic?10:14
tinwood#topic High Priority Bugs10:15
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tinwoodBugs are here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-charms/+bugs10:15
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tinwoodWe have 59 high/critical that are no fix-released10:16
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tinwoodAny that need discussion?10:16
tinwoodNo, okay10:16
tinwoodWell, Thursday this week is a 'bug-squash' day for everybody who wants to take part.10:17
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tinwood... and moving on.10:17
iceys/wants to take part/everybody :)10:17
tinwood#topic OpenStack events10:17
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tinwoodThe next one is the Boston event.10:18
sparkiegeekicey: "for everybody who everybody"?10:18
sparkiegeek;)10:18
iceysparkiegeek: this is why I don't tend to write code with sed :)10:18
tinwoodsparkiegeek, yes, exactly! :)10:18
tinwoodAny thoughts/comments on Boston OSD?10:19
sparkiegeekicey: M-x butterfly10:19
* tinwood recoils at emacs ...10:19
tinwoodokay, on to the open discussion10:19
tinwood#topic Open Discussion10:19
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tinwoodSo, I'm doing a piece of work in charm-helpers to solve alpha comparisons of OpenStack and Ubuntu releases which are going to wrap 'real-soon'10:20
tinwoodIt's being tracked by bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-helpers/+bug/165957510:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1659575 in OpenStack keystone charm "distrib_codename alpha comparison will soon yield unintended behavior" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Alex Kavanagh (ajkavanagh)10:21
tinwoodI'm raising it so that if you have the urge to do something like10:21
tinwoodrelease > 'mitaka'10:21
tinwoodthat you instead reach for the new class/functions and instead to10:21
tinwoodCompareOpenStackReleases(release) > 'mitaka'10:22
tinwoodThe change to charm-helpers should go in today.10:22
tinwoodand then be rolled out across the charms over the next 2 weeks.10:22
tinwoodokay, anyone else?10:23
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tinwoodokay, thanks everybody :)10:23
tinwood#endmeeting10:23
Dmitrii-Shthanks tinwood10:23
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Mar 27 10:23:54 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)10:23
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iceythanks tinwood10:24
tinwoodDmitrii-Sh, you are next up in 2 weeks.  Is that okay?10:24
sparkiegeekcheers tinwood10:24
tinwood(for chair)10:24
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Dmitrii-Shtinwood: right now I don't have anything planned for that, so yes10:24
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Dmitrii-Shtinwood: however, that might change10:24
tinwoodgreat stuff -- let me know if you have a problem.10:24
Dmitrii-Shtinwood: probably won't so I will do it )10:25
Dmitrii-Shtinwood: ta10:25
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apuimedo#startmeeting kuryr13:03
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 27 13:03:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'kuryr'13:03
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apuimedoWelcome to Kuryr's weekly IRC meeting13:04
apuimedoWho do we have here today?13:04
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apuimedoI guess we'll wait a bit :-)13:06
apuimedootherwise it will be a fast meeting13:06
apuimedolimao_: janonymous: Are you here?13:06
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apuimedoalright. Calling off the meeting13:12
apuimedo:-)13:12
limao_hi13:12
apuimedo#info Not enough people present. Meeting adjourned13:12
limao_apuimedo: we chaged the meeting time?13:13
apuimedooh, right. It's me who's wrong XD13:13
apuimedomy time changed, not utc13:13
apuimedoxD13:13
apuimedoit's in 47 minutes13:13
limao_;-)13:13
apuimedoXD13:13
apuimedosorry about that13:13
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apuimedo#info apuimedo confused the time due to DST. Will re-start the meeting in due time13:14
apuimedo#endmeeting13:14
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Mar 27 13:14:12 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:14
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apuimedo#startmeeting kuryr14:04
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 27 14:04:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:04
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apuimedoWelcome to another weekly irc meeting14:05
apuimedoWho's here for it?14:05
hongbino/14:05
alraddarlao/14:05
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janonymouso/14:05
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apuimedolimao: still here?14:05
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limao_o/14:06
apuimedo:-)14:07
apuimedoThank you all for joining. And sorry for the confusion an hour ago. DST should be abolished14:07
apuimedo#topic kuryr-lib14:07
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apuimedoLast week kuryr-lib 0.4.0 was released14:08
apuimedo#info Kuryr-lib 0.4.0 was released last week and the global requirements for other openstack projects was bumped to 0.4.014:09
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apuimedoI also finished today its packaging for RDO git@gitlab.com:celebdor/kuryr-lib-distgit.git14:09
apuimedoIt would be nice if somebody would package for debian/ubuntu if there's demand14:10
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apuimedoAny questions on kuryr-lib release?14:12
apuimedoor kuryr-lib in general?14:12
apuimedovery well. Moving on!14:13
apuimedo#topic kuryr-libnetwork14:13
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apuimedo#info kuryr-libnetwork 0.1.0 was released last week14:15
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kzaitsev_wslate o/14:16
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apuimedo:-)14:17
apuimedowelcome kzaitsev_ws14:17
apuimedoOh, I see there's some post release patches to kuryr-libnetwork14:17
apuimedolimao_: I think we can merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449377/ . What do you think?14:18
apuimedooh right14:18
apuimedoit should be changed to 3.514:18
limao_apuimedo: yes, if it changed to 3.5 will be better14:18
apuimedolimao_: In these cases, better -1 the patch14:18
apuimedo:-)14:18
apuimedoso the owner is prompted that something is not right14:19
limao_apuimedo: yeah, thanks, I will change14:19
apuimedolimao_: thanks for the fix in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449002/14:19
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apuimedodid you get around to trying it with green threads?14:20
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limao_apuimedo: that would be a work around , when I try it in green threads , looks like current uwsgi version do not support, I will try more in next week14:21
apuimedoexcellent14:21
apuimedothanks a lot14:21
apuimedoThe last item on kuryr-libnetwork is14:21
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apuimedodiscussion on whether its release model should be cycle-with-intermediary14:22
apuimedoi.e., we make releases when we want, but also a release when Pike, Queens, etc come around14:22
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hongbini think that is a good idea for libnetwork14:23
apuimedolimao_: janonymous: yedongcan: thoughts?14:23
hongbinanother option is cycle-with-milestone, there are people complaining that this model makes releases that are not needed14:23
hongbin(since it needs to make the milestone 1/2/3 release by date)14:24
janonymouscycle with intermediary looks good to me14:24
limao_+1 cycle-with-intermediary14:24
yedongcan+114:24
kzaitsev_wshongbin: the argument release team has for milestone releases is that it executes the release machinery often14:25
kzaitsev_wsso if something is not right — they find out early and not at the day of the actual release14:25
hongbinkzaitsev_ws: that is true14:25
apuimedokzaitsev_ws: right now we are on "independent"14:25
apuimedoso intermediary is already an improvement :P14:25
kzaitsev_wsbut yeah I don't know anyone, who would actually use these 'intermediary' releases )14:26
apuimedoI think kuryr-kubernetes will probably get more traction and benefit from milestones (although I submitted it with intermediary for now). kuryr-libnetwork may, but not yet14:26
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apuimedo#info majority of the meeting participants vote for cycle-with-intermediary for kuryr-libnetwork. We'll confirm with missing cores and propose14:28
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apuimedoAlso, please, file blueprints for things you want for the pike cycle relase for kuryr-libnetwork14:28
apuimedoanything else on kuryr-libnetwork?14:29
limao_apuimedo: thanks, one more is about the docker swarm mode14:29
limao_The background is from docker 1.12, it support swarm mode14:29
apuimedoright14:30
janonymousyeah, i will get involved too14:30
apuimedodoes it new to support some new api?14:30
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limao_No, it do not need some new api14:30
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limao_the problem is when we use docker swarm mode in 1.1314:30
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limao_it do not support legacy plugin14:31
limao_It only support docker managed plugin in swarm mode14:31
limao_https://docs.docker.com/engine/extend/14:31
limao_That means kuryr-libnetwork docker plugin need be managed by "docker plugin system"14:32
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apuimedolimao_: what does that mean for us. What kind of change it involves14:32
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limao_The change is we need to support v2plugin : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449038/14:33
apuimedoOh! there is a WIP14:34
apuimedogreat limao_14:34
limao_I upload a kuryr-libnetwork v2plugin in my docker hub14:34
apuimedothat's definitely a must for Pike14:34
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yedongcanlimao_: anything changed in controller side?14:34
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limao_yedongcan: nothing changed in controller, you need to listen to a local socket14:35
apuimedothat's easy enough14:35
apuimedocool14:35
limao_docker plugin install --alias kuryr limao/kuryr-libnetwork-v2plugin14:35
apuimedoI add myself as reviewer14:35
yedongcanlimao_: ok, thanks14:36
limao_You can try the plugin from my docker hub14:36
apuimedoah, so it needs to be containerized then14:36
apuimedolimao_: please, file a blueprint for that too14:36
limao_I packaged one with master code14:36
limao_apuimedo: OK, will do it14:36
apuimedothanks limao_!14:36
apuimedo#topic fuxi14:36
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apuimedohongbin_: the floor is yours14:36
hongbin_hi14:36
apuimedo#chair hongbin_14:36
openstackCurrent chairs: apuimedo hongbin_14:36
hongbin_at last week, i tried to setup the ci for manila provider14:37
hongbin_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449833/14:37
hongbin_there is some bugs from manila side. now it is resolved14:37
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apuimedohongbin_: only that on the depends on?14:38
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hongbin_there is a bug from manilaclient that failed the py35 gate, and the fix was proposed14:38
apuimedoah good14:38
hongbin_apuimedo: yes14:38
apuimedohongbin_: any news on fuxi-kubernetes side?14:38
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hongbin_apuimedo: i still didn't receive any information about this, will ping them this week again14:39
hongbin_apuimedo: sorry about that14:39
apuimedovery well. No worries! Thanks hongbin_14:39
apuimedo#topic kuryr-kubernetes14:39
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apuimedoWe moved to require kuryr-lib 0.4.014:41
apuimedoOnce we get the last services patch merged14:41
apuimedoI think we'll make an intermediary14:42
kzaitsev_wsyay!14:42
apuimedo#info We were formally added to the Pike release: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448521/14:42
apuimedo#info Vagrant support was added for vbox, libvirt and parallels providers14:43
apuimedoruijing cleaned up devstack from remains :-)14:44
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apuimedo#action irenab vikas ivc_ review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446492/14:45
apuimedo#action apuimedo ivc_ vikas to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450113/14:46
apuimedojanonymous: did you see yedongcan's comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447942/ ?14:46
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janonymousapuimedo:yeah, will update shortly14:47
apuimedothanks janonymous!14:47
apuimedoIt's a very good idea this blueprint14:47
janonymous:)14:48
kzaitsev_wsapuimedo: regarding the services patch — I actually wanted to write an email to Ilya about his patch to ask if he would be ok If I'll help him out with it.14:48
apuimedokzaitsev_ws: I think that would be great. Please, put me in copy14:48
kzaitsev_wslooks like he's busy and the patch seems mostly implemented14:48
apuimedokzaitsev_ws: IIRC it only misses unit tests, so as long as they are up to the standard of the rest of tests. It would easily go in14:49
apuimedoallow us to realease 0.1.0 and move on to the rest of blueprints14:49
kzaitsev_wsyep, feels like we should only do a final push there14:49
apuimedo(and possibly add octavia support later on)14:49
apuimedoagreed14:49
apuimedothanks kzaitsev_ws14:49
apuimedoAnything else about kuryr-kubernetes?14:49
yedongcanapuimedo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443748/14:50
apuimedooh, btw. I'm also finishing kuryr-kubernetes rdo package. It already builds14:50
apuimedoI'll share the link later if anybody wants it14:50
yedongcanI think it related to you patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447073/14:50
apuimedoYay!14:50
apuimedothanks yedongcan14:51
apuimedoI can't wait for os-vif to use it too14:51
apuimedoI don't like breaking out into ovs-vsctl14:51
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apuimedoI will submit the new version shortly14:51
yedongcanu're welcome.14:51
apuimedoanything else?14:51
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apuimedoalright14:53
apuimedo#topic general14:53
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apuimedoDoes anybody else want to bring up some other topic?14:53
apuimedovery well then!14:54
apuimedoThank you all for joining today!14:54
apuimedo#endmeeting14:54
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Mar 27 14:54:53 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:54
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jimbakerwell time to start this thing off i think...15:00
jimbaker#startmeeting craton15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 27 15:00:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jimbaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
jimbaker#chair sigmavirus sulo jimbaker thomasem15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
jimbaker#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/craton-meetings15:00
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jimbaker#topic Roll Call15:00
openstackCurrent chairs: jimbaker sigmavirus sulo thomasem15:00
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jimbakero/15:00
thomasemo/15:00
anonymikeo/15:00
thomasemLol jimbaker I was about to paste that, too.15:00
thomasemIf I'm going to chair, mind letting me do that paste?15:01
jimbakerthomasem, i just get impatient, that's all...15:01
jimbaker;)15:01
antonymo/15:01
git-harryhi15:01
thomasem#topic Action Items from Last Meeting15:02
thomasem#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/craton/2017/craton.2017-03-20-14.59.html15:02
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thomasemPushing mine out again. Got bogged down in nuance with the nested vars stuff and didn't get to it.15:02
thomasem#action thomasem to write BP regarding deployment as a starting point for iterating on a suggested deployment model15:02
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thomasemand jimbaker, was there anything more to do regarding translating Dusty's stuff?15:03
thomasemOr giving feedback on that, or anything?15:03
jimbakerre action item to do the mapping... i think this was a good idea, but not certain if we really need15:03
thomasemThat didn't get covered last week, but I know it was an action item we had pending for you.15:03
thomasemOkay, then we'll skip that one.15:03
jimbakercool15:03
thomasem#topic Stand-up15:03
thomasem#info each team member briefly describes what they are working on this week, and describes blockers (if there are any)15:03
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thomasem#topic Stand Up :: jimbaker15:03
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jimbakerneed to finalize alembic. it's been hanging out there for a while with last "small bit" of work needed15:04
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jimbakeri was planning to revisit rbac, but pushing that out to the next sprint15:05
jimbakerso later this week15:05
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thomasemdone?15:05
jimbakerlastly tojuvone and i have a conference proposal on maintenance. i looked into more of these issue with respect to OPNFV15:05
thomasemAh15:05
jimbakerdone15:05
thomasemCool, thanks!15:06
thomasem#topic Stand Up :: thomasem15:06
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thomasemDoing finishing touches on nested var search patch, mostly some additional functional tests. Solved a few bugs that came up from Harry and some things I saw over the weekend uncovered by the functional tests I already wrote. Seems to be in a much better place now and would like some eyes on the patch. I've refactored it a bit to use the jsonpath-rw library, which should be more reliabl15:06
thomaseme parsing than my earlier attempts. Other than that, going through review queue and going to write documentation for nested vars search and put that up for review in a separate patch (the current one is large enough).15:06
thomasemdone15:06
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thomasem#topic Stand Up :: anonymike15:06
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anonymikeI've been working on adapting some helpful quick start and wrapper functions to craton. I submitted code and document updates last night. I've also been working on a proof of concept project to get some craton data into elastic search. I didn't get as far as I would have liked over the weekend, but I should have something to demo in the next day or so.15:06
anonymikedone15:06
thomasem#topic Stand Up :: antonym15:06
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antonymcontinue working with the provisioning pieces and getting the json searching stuff working the way i want to for server discovery, will also steal some spinnets of ansible code for docs15:07
antonymdone15:08
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thomasem#topic Stand Up :: git-harry15:08
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git-harryCurrent WIP: ddressing comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447580/ and reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443941/15:09
git-harrydone15:09
thomasem#topic This Week's Priorities15:10
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thomasemTentatively (let's discuss these if anyone disagrees)15:10
thomasem1. https://review.openstack.org/44164415:10
thomasem2. https://review.openstack.org/44394115:10
thomasem3. https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cratonclient/+bug/167541015:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1675410 in Craton's Python Client "Add fields selector to <resource>-show commands" [Undecided,New]15:11
jimbaker#3 is hugely important15:11
thomasem4. https://review.openstack.org/44758015:11
thomasemAnd... what else?15:11
thomasemYeah, I'd prefer we get someone focusing on #3 sooner rather than later.15:11
thomasemIf anyone has bandwidth.15:11
fsaadagree on #315:12
jimbakeri would add the outstanding stuff sulo has for client support of network resources15:12
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jimbakerat least https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427245/15:12
jimbakerso that can be #515:12
thomasemhttps://review.openstack.org/427249, https://review.openstack.org/427245, and https://review.openstack.org/42723715:12
thomasemMerge conflicts and needs some tests, iirc.15:12
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jimbakeryeah, pretty straightforward, just finish up some missing capabilities15:13
jimbakerat client level15:13
thomasemSo, in summary, our priorities this week are:15:13
thomasem1. https://review.openstack.org/44164415:13
thomasem2. https://review.openstack.org/44394115:13
thomasem3. https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cratonclient/+bug/167541015:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1675410 in Craton's Python Client "Add fields selector to <resource>-show commands" [Undecided,New]15:13
thomasem4. https://review.openstack.org/44758015:13
thomasem5. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427245/15:13
thomasem6 and 7 (if we have time) are the other network-* client patches that are in merge conflict.15:14
thomasemWho can start work on #3?15:14
jimbaker+115:14
thomasem1 & 2 are already in progress and have owners.15:14
thomasemand #415:14
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anonymikeI can look at #315:14
thomasemExcellent. I'd like to discuss it in Open Discussion, so we can be sure all of the context is shared.15:15
anonymikeGreat15:15
thomasemCool. So those are our priorities. :)15:16
thomasem#topic Open Discussion15:16
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jimbakerso #3 is a fairly interesting bug15:16
jimbakerwe need to implement a comprehensive select functionality that's easy to use15:17
anonymikeseems pretty straight forward :/  what are the issues?15:17
anonymikeah15:17
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jimbakerso things we might want to select for15:17
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jimbakerfor now: some set of vars, labels, network relationships15:18
jimbakerparent(s), children15:18
jimbakerin the future: rbac role assignments15:18
jimbakerhowever, regardless of what this is abstractly, we need to make sure it handles15:18
jimbakerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cratonclient/+bug/1675410/comments/315:19
openstackLaunchpad bug 1675410 in Craton's Python Client "Add fields selector to <resource>-show commands" [Undecided,New]15:19
jimbakerso bjoern's specific comments15:19
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thomasemanonymike: So, some asks from our last demo were around more flexibility in what fields are displayed for <resource>-show, and <resouce>-list. They wanted to be able to view some of the data that's actually in variables, without showing ALL of the variables (which can be cumbersome). Ultimately, if we have to way to do things like --fields id, cloud_id, var:host_facts.release.distribut15:19
thomasemion, var:host_facts.hardware.core_count15:19
thomasemYeah15:19
thomasemas an example15:19
thomasem^^15:19
jimbakerthomasem, yeah, and are those json paths?15:19
thomasemYeah15:20
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jimbakerso that's why i wanted to point out it's a fairly interesting bug15:20
thomasemNow, the other ask (and I'm not sure if we want to do this, exactly) was to have the ability to alias the var selectors15:20
jimbakeroh, nice15:20
jimbakermakes sense15:20
anonymikeyeah15:20
thomasemAs you can imagine... heh paths can get pretty long15:20
thomasemSo, I wanted to get thoughts here before entering all of this into the bug. :)15:21
thomasemIs why it's not there yet.15:21
jimbakerso again, it is "select"15:21
anonymikewhat would that look like in the command?15:21
anonymikeah yeah15:21
thomasemThat's what I'm not sure of yet.15:21
thomasemIt's all comma-separated15:21
thomasem(or at least that's a suggestion)15:21
jimbakerand this "select" may imply joining15:21
thomasemRight now, actually, it's space delimited and I think it has to be the last argument in the command.15:22
jimbakeror --field=spec --field=another-spec15:22
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anonymikejimbaker: so we want to intelligently select the fields from the db rather than just apply our own filter on what is returned15:22
thomasemAnd --fields is only supported for list calls15:22
jimbakeranonymike, so the object graph stuff in sqlalchemy is pretty smart for this15:22
jimbakeralthough we need to a better job in limiting queries15:22
jimbakerone reason why current queries can get slow15:23
jimbakerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/craton/+bug/166470715:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1664707 in craton "SQLAlchemy queries are not lazy enough" [High,New]15:23
thomasem(did anyone ever write a bug for the --limit issues that Tim was experiencing during the demo?)15:23
thomasemAh, I have that in my notes to do. Nevermind. I will. :)15:24
jimbakerthomasem, does not appear to be the case15:24
thomasem#action thomasem to write up client bugs related to --limit from Demo15:24
thomasemThanks15:24
jimbakercool. consensus was to do this in the client15:24
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jimbakerand support --limit=1 to limit=all15:24
thomasemRigh15:24
thomasemt15:24
thomasemSorry, didn't mean to interrupt. We're good to continue chatting about --fields :)15:25
jimbakerthomasem, it's good, that was an important usability issue15:25
jimbakeralso i sneaked in the spec of all15:25
jimbaker--limit=all15:25
thomasemSneaky15:25
fsaadthomasem: maybe relevant https://bugs.launchpad.net/craton/+bug/164253215:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1642532 in craton "Limit functionality only partially implemented for listing hosts" [Medium,Confirmed]15:25
jimbakerbetter than --limit=-115:25
thomasemfsaad: thank you!15:25
fsaado/15:26
jimbakerjust a reasonable value for that spec, that's all15:26
thomasemagreed15:26
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thomasemor maybe --limit=yes15:26
jimbaker:)15:26
* thomasem is just being silly now15:26
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jimbakerso https://bugs.launchpad.net/craton/+bug/1642532 is pretty out of date15:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1642532 in craton "Limit functionality only partially implemented for listing hosts" [Medium,Confirmed]15:27
jimbakeri'm going to close it as is, given work on pagination15:27
anonymike+115:27
thomasemanonymike: So, you're wondering how much of the API can be leveraged for the filtering?15:28
thomasemand specification of fields15:28
anonymikecorrect15:28
thomasemOr whether we ought to leverage the API for that.15:28
thomasemI think that'd be the most efficient... no need to uselessly pass data that's not going to be used.15:28
anonymikebut that's probably taking the easy way out, if we can get that done on the backend we SHOULD correct?15:29
anonymikeyeah15:29
jimbakerrelated to discussion we have had on graphql15:29
thomasemOh yes15:29
anonymikeha my old team was just beginning to look into graphql15:30
thomasemhttp://graphql.org/15:30
jimbakermy initial take on this: let's do it inefficiently for now15:30
jimbakerbecause it's not so inefficient15:30
jimbakerbut we will want to revisit. especially with respect to bulk15:31
jimbakeror with respect to any UI15:31
jimbakerbtw, speaking of graphql, would this imply we would want to frontend with react?15:31
jimbakerjust curious...15:32
anonymike+1015:32
thomasemThe moment we find ourselves duplicating the logic for interacting with the API, we need to put it in the API.15:32
jimbaker+115:32
jimbakerthomasem, and this gets into pushing the specific selection critertia15:33
jimbakerright now, we have this details=all15:33
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jimbakerbut that's a placeholder for a more interesting spec15:33
jimbakerof what the user wants15:33
thomasemWonder how aliases could look15:33
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thomasem?fields:path:$.variables.foo.bar|alias:"foo_bar",path:$.id|alias:"my_id"15:34
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jimbaker--field foo->bar15:35
jimbakerthe best part of using | is the chance to confuse bash15:35
thomasemYeah, it's my favorite.15:35
jimbakerif not quoted...15:35
thomasemHaha, that's fair.15:35
jimbakerwe already can do that with & of course15:35
fsaadlol15:36
jimbakerthomasem, so at some point i think the answer is json15:36
thomasemI think the success of this solution increases exponentially with the number of bash special characters that are used.15:36
jimbakervs trying to build a mini language here15:36
jimbakerthomasem, :)15:37
thomasemin the syntax15:37
thomasemjimbaker: yeah15:37
thomasemI probably need to be careful when trolling.15:37
jimbakermaybe repurpose emoji?15:37
thomasemMight actually happen.15:37
anonymikeha15:37
thomasemSo, yeah, I'm open to suggestions.15:38
thomasemUltimately, though, we probably need to be able to alias these selections, lest we get ridiculous column names.15:38
jimbakeryeah15:38
jimbakerso -> might be good15:39
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jimbakeror comparable15:39
anonymikeI like that15:39
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jimbakeras some nice bash meaning of course15:39
jimbakerhas15:40
jimbakeranyway, we are in a bikeshedding moment i think15:40
thomasemYes, I think so.15:40
jimbakerwe can conclude15:40
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jimbaker1. selection of fields is a critical feature for support15:40
jimbaker(and we enumerated some examples, but at least support bjoern's list)15:41
jimbaker2. aliasing is something we need to do15:41
thomasemcool15:42
thomasemSo, anonymike, do you feel like you have enough to get going on that?15:42
thomasemOf course, we're always here to chat about the nuances as you go.15:42
anonymikethomasem: I think so15:42
thomasemAwesome15:42
jimbakeranonymike, also you are going to rely on thomasem and me here15:42
jimbakergiven you are new to the codebase15:42
thomasemSounds good to me. Happy to help however I can!15:43
jimbakersulo and git-harry are also resources - basically any core can advise on how to build something end-to-end in craton15:43
jimbakeranonymike, hint: this is how one becomes core...15:43
anonymike:)15:43
thomasemThat and pizza bribes go a long way.15:44
jimbaker:)15:44
anonymikehaha I can totally swing pizza bribes15:44
thomasem:P15:44
thomasemLOL!15:44
anonymikeany pointers to spots in the code I should dive into for this?15:44
jimbakeranonymike, i think you want to look at jsonpath-rw15:45
jimbakersince it will be client side selection15:45
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fsaadone question regarding field selection, is the thought to still by default show all ?15:45
jimbakerfsaad, yes15:45
thomasemanonymike: https://github.com/openstack/python-cratonclient/blob/master/cratonclient/shell/v1/hosts_shell.py#L81 and, yeah, jsonpath-rw will probably be your friend here.15:45
jimbakerbut we could have something where the user can specify this through config15:45
jimbakerthomasem was proposing this last week15:46
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jimbakermy pushback here was that probably wanted something that is not going to be an env var for every possibility15:46
jimbakerof resource and detail15:46
jimbakermaybe json/yaml specified, with env var pointing to it?15:47
fsaadwould be nice to have that configurable somehow, will defer to y'all on the details15:47
jimbakerfsaad, right - that's where we left it off15:47
fsaadis right now a good time?15:48
thomasemAs long as it follows a convention, it could be fairly abstract and not all that cumbersome.15:48
jimbakerwe know it should be configurable, we are just going to do it in a second phase15:48
thomasem<RESOURCE>_15:48
thomasemOoops15:48
jimbakerpossibly immediately after this bug15:48
fsaadok sounds good to me!15:48
fsaadfeel like once you have the capability to use selection, making it configurable should be pretty straightforward right15:49
jimbakerbut let's not do it in one bug at least. big enough i think to do select and alias15:49
thomasemfsaad: oh, yeah.15:49
fsaadsounds like a plan then. Thanks guys!15:49
thomasemIt's really a matter at that point of how people want to interact with it.15:49
thomasemsure thing fsaad15:49
jimbakerwhich we will figure out by demoing and actual use15:49
thomasemYerp15:50
thomasemAlright, cool. We have 10 minutes left15:50
jimbakerincluding by ourselves15:50
thomasemAnything else, or do we want to recover 10 minutes of our lives?15:50
jimbaker+1 on recovery15:50
thomasem#endmeeting15:50
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thomasemSee y'all in #craton!15:50
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jimbakerthanks!15:51
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