Thursday, 2016-04-14

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tonybsdake: that'll be decided at the Austin summit00:00
rhalliseyok let's flow over to openstack-kolla00:00
sdakeya les end meeting and overflow in openstack-kolla00:00
* tonyb moves00:00
rhalliseythanks guys00:00
rhallisey#endmeeting kolla00:00
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"00:00
openstackMeeting ended Thu Apr 14 00:00:41 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)00:00
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-04-13-23.01.html00:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-04-13-23.01.txt00:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-04-13-23.01.log.html00:00
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jokke_#startmeeting glance13:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 14 13:02:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:02
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)"13:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'13:02
jokke_Courtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k13:02
jokke_Courtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, bunting13:02
jokke_Courtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat13:02
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jokke_#topic agenda13:03
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jokke_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda13:03
jokke_#endmeeting too early13:03
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"13:03
openstackMeeting ended Thu Apr 14 13:03:36 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)13:03
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-04-14-13.02.html13:03
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-04-14-13.02.txt13:03
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2016/glance.2016-04-14-13.02.log.html13:03
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nikhilCourtesy meeting reminder: ativelkov, cpallares, flaper87, flwang1, hemanthm, jokke_, kragniz, lakshmiS, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k13:59
nikhilCourtesy meeting reminder: Nikolay_St, Olena, pennerc, rosmaita, sigmavirus24, sabari, TravT, ajayaa, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishek, bunting13:59
nikhilCourtesy meeting reminder: dshakhray, wxy, dhellmann, kairat13:59
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jokke_Yayyy!13:59
jokke_o/13:59
nikhilroll call13:59
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nikhilhi jokke_14:00
mfedosino/14:00
rosmaitao/14:00
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nikhilyou seem excited about meetings?14:00
nikhil:)14:00
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abhisheko/14:00
rosmaitajokke_ has been here for an hour14:00
jokke_rosmaita: I'm always here14:00
nikhilI think he loves mtgs14:00
nikhillet's get started14:00
nikhil#startmeeting glance14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 14 14:00:40 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'glance'14:00
nikhil#topic agenda14:00
jokke_specially the ones that has coffee and buns14:00
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nikhil:)14:00
nikhil#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda14:00
hemanthmo/14:00
flaper87o/14:01
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nikhilLooks like the agenda filled up pretty recently14:01
rosmaitao/14:01
nikhilwe should need the full hour more or less14:01
nikhil#topic     Update from other teams14:01
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nikhil#info Glare updates ( mfedosin )14:01
mfedosinhello!14:01
mfedosinno big changes during last week14:02
mfedosinwe stabilize our code and preparing to a big demo14:02
mfedosinkairat added tooz support to prevent race conditions14:02
nikhilthat's great news!14:02
mfedosindshakhray implemented filtering and sorting support for artifacts14:03
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mfedosinall desired features are imlemented so I'm going to concentrate on the spec next week14:03
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nikhilkudos14:03
nikhilThanks mfedosin14:04
mfedosinwelcome :)14:04
nikhilmoving on14:04
nikhil#info Nova v1 v214:04
nikhilmfedosin: that's mostly you14:04
mfedosinI updated the spec14:04
mfedosin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301741/414:05
mfedosinI think it's ready to merge14:05
nikhil:)14:05
mfedosinalso I fixed race conditions in commits and waiting John to remove -214:05
mfedosinnot race conditions, sorry14:06
mfedosinmerge conflicts14:06
nikhilok14:06
nikhilheadsup: I read some of the latest comments from matt and sean on ML that indicate we need to sync and decide on glanceclient scope for this spec14:06
nikhil#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092153.html14:07
mfedosinnikhil: may I ask you about summit session?14:07
nikhil#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092158.html14:07
nikhilmfedosin: sure14:07
mfedosinit will be combined with Nova team, right?14:07
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nikhilit's officially nova session that is tagged for glance too14:07
mfedosinwhen will it be?14:08
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mfedosindo you remember?14:08
nikhilso, we can expect turn-out from both teams14:08
nikhilall glance tagged sessions are here:14:08
nikhil#info glance tagged summit sessions https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=glance14:08
nikhil#info nova session with glance on image v2 https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9083?goback=114:08
nikhilanything else?14:09
mfedosinno, thanks :)14:09
nikhilyw14:09
nikhil#info cross-project updates14:10
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nikhilthere was no meeting and nothing raised this week14:10
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nikhilas usual, do visit the community blog post14:10
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nikhilthe cross project session list is up in schedule14:10
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nikhilI have requested a few signups for cross project session attendees here:14:11
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nikhil#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-summit-planning14:11
nikhilline 345 onwards14:11
nikhilbasically we should try to cover as many sessions as possible as a team14:11
nikhilfor someone signed up on two sessions at the same time, please add your name instead if you are free then14:12
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nikhilI wanted to correct some information that I provided during the sync14:12
nikhiltuesday full day design summit is CP but there are still main summit tracks that run parallel to this14:13
nikhilso in case you _do_ have signed up for a session, you can re-think about your priority towards main summit session too if that's relevant14:13
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nikhilanother note: all sessions marked as in the etherpad (**) are important for us14:14
nikhilthat's it14:14
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nikhil#topic announcements14:14
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nikhilwanted to get a quick poll on the next two meetings14:14
nikhil#startvote have the meeting on april 21 (next week)? yes, no, maybe14:15
openstackBegin voting on: have the meeting on april 21 (next week)? Valid vote options are yes, no, maybe.14:15
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.14:15
nikhilI will take no answer as "NO" (as I don't have agenda)14:15
nikhil#vote no14:15
nikhilcounting 114:16
nikhilcounting 214:16
hemanthm#vote no14:16
avarner#vote maybe14:16
mclaren#vote maybe14:16
rosmaita#vote maybe14:16
abhishek#vote maybe14:16
rosmaitamclaren: maybe we can have import meeting in this timeslot if no reg meeting14:16
nikhil#endvote14:16
jokke_#vote yes14:16
openstackVoted on "have the meeting on april 21 (next week)?" Results are14:17
openstackmaybe (4): avarner, abhishek, mclaren, rosmaita14:17
openstackno (2): hemanthm, nikhil14:17
mclarenrosmaita: fine by me14:17
nikhilok, we will see14:17
nikhilI will update on wednesday if agenda is updated or not14:17
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nikhil#info We won't have the weekly meeting during summit ie on April 28th14:17
nikhilThanks for your input14:18
nikhilmoving on14:18
nikhil#topic descriptions of the summit sessions14:18
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nikhilfirstly, find the list of all glance sessions:14:18
nikhil#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Glance%3A14:19
nikhil#info the above list refers to design summit Glance sessions14:19
nikhiland that query doesn't show sessions tagged by other teams14:20
nikhilalso, we need to update the descriptions of the Fishbowl sessions specifically14:20
nikhilI took the liberty to copy over data from the summit planning etherpad and modified a little bit (mostly grammar)14:20
nikhilI need input from you so that the sessions cover the following items in the description (copying from my email):14:21
nikhilwhat's the problem it's trying to solve14:21
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nikhilwhat's currently out there14:21
nikhilwhat are best practices, feedback and experiences from cross-prj or other teams14:21
nikhilwhat is the scope of the current proposal or are you posing questions via. this topic14:21
nikhilwhat has been discussed, what are/were the blockers and any other reference information14:22
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nikhilWe need a good chunk of that info up in the descriptions so that people know what they are about14:22
nikhilAlthough, this rule also applies to work sessions, I am insisting on FB ones first14:22
nikhilif I don't get input, I will take the liberty to update them myself as per my perspective14:23
nikhilquestions?14:23
rosmaitatimeframe for completion?14:23
nikhilthe cut off time from summit planners is EOW (this week)14:23
nikhilso, any time by 7pm ET tomorrow should work14:24
rosmaitathanks14:24
nikhilmoving on14:24
nikhil#topic Mid-cycle14:24
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nikhilI've announced this on the ML, just bringing it here so that it's not lost in your inbox. I noticed that a few people missed my ML updates.14:25
nikhil#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092009.html14:25
rosmaitacould we maybe get a list of people who are interested in remote attendance?14:26
nikhilThe etherpad (wiki) is in the email. Please start planning your travel as soon as possible. I know it's a bit hectic period, close to summit, but after the summit may delay things.14:26
rosmaita(it suddenly looks like i will be one of those people)14:26
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nikhilrosmaita: sure, please feel free to create a section for remote attendance or add remote, maybe remote, etc. tags against your RSVP name on the etherpad14:27
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nikhil#action all: please RSVP your confirm or tentative plans for the mid-cycle on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-midcycle-meetup . It would be good to get a list of remote attendance.14:28
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nikhilquestions?14:28
nikhilmoving on14:29
nikhil#topic Provide a list of request ids to the caller (abhishekk)14:29
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abhishekhi,  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+spec/return-request-id-to-caller was accepted for mitaka and needs to be changed to newton14:29
abhishekand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/261288/  is up for quite long time, needs review14:29
jokke_abhishek: have you proposed change for that move in the specs repo?14:30
jokke_or someone else?14:30
abhishekjokke_: specs was not submitted for this as it is approved in cross-project specs14:30
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abhishekthen as per your suggestion, I have created a specs-lite last time14:31
jokke_oh cool14:31
abhishekjokke_: please refer, https://launchpad.net/bugs/152525914:32
openstackabhishek: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1525259 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1525259). The error has been logged14:32
jokke_just something we can track off so if there is spec lite (as in wishlist bug) we're tracking it14:32
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nikhilabhishek: oh nice, might be a good idea to quickly link that lite spec with the bp (as a URL for specification)14:32
jokke_abhishek: as we agreed, there is no need to transfer that to the new lite-spec format for this cycle14:32
abhisheknikhil: i will do that14:33
nikhilthanks for bringing this up abhishek!14:33
abhishekjokke_: ok14:33
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abhishekthank you, thats it from my side14:33
nikhilI will talk about reviews and review day in the later in the meeting (impromptu addition)14:33
* jokke_ really needs to fix the lite-spec documentation14:33
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nikhilwe need to talk about that, prolly during contri meetup last session14:34
nikhilanyway, let's give enough time for import :)14:34
nikhilmoving on14:34
nikhil#topic Notes on image import implementation tactics (mclaren)14:34
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nikhilmclaren:  thanks for the link14:35
nikhil#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-image-import-implementation-tactics14:35
mclarenSure14:35
nikhilfirstly, how is this different from what we want to discuss at the summit14:35
mclarenThis is just a bit of a brain dump really14:35
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nikhilah I see, thanks14:35
mclarenBut having thought it through it does look like we can avoid some complex stuff14:36
rosmaitai think it's a good clarification14:36
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mclareneg having to store two image blobs at once14:36
mclarenI'd be interested if folks wanted to read through and see if they generally agreed/spotted any holes14:37
mclaren(eg drop me a mail)14:37
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nikhilmclaren: I think all are browsing through it atm14:38
rosmaitaoops, i already started putting comments right on the etherpad14:38
mclarenoh yeah, that works too!14:38
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nikhilmclaren:  It's pretty detailed and explicitly written. Only have my love for it atm!14:38
nikhilin fact, I was planning to start some tiny discussions around this14:39
nikhilmay be we go ahead and start defining (formally in a spec) what we want to target for newton14:39
mclarenThanks. If we really can punt on some of the complex stuff it does make getting something that 'works' sooner possible14:40
nikhilagreed.14:40
mclarenI'll check for feedback on the ether pad later. Thanks, that's all I had.14:41
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nikhillooks like a excellent plan14:41
nikhilin the meanwhile: I will try to gauge interest, internal commitments, preferences, etc. and plan a timeline around this14:42
nikhilAnd then use the plan your poise along with developer/reviewer time to sketch out the remnanats14:43
rosmaitajokke_: is that you putting comments in purple?14:43
jokke_rosmaita: yup14:44
nikhilrosmaita: I had a feeling that defcore would be lenient on the timeline and not need 3 cycles?14:44
rosmaitawell, i'm not sure the timeline is really the issue14:44
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rosmaitaas far as defcore is concerned, they would like glance to have a single API for end-users to get images into the cloud14:45
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rosmaitathe API can be "flexible" as outlined on the spec14:45
rosmaitabut we need to hit the widest use cases first, as stuart says14:45
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nikhilwidest == most popular ?14:46
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mclarennot that it matters, but I wasn't really thinking about widest use cases, more minimally scoped code.14:46
rosmaitai guess so, measured in number of clouds, not number of users14:46
nikhilI see14:46
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nikhilthanks rosmaita14:46
rosmaitamclaren: i'm thinking of the point you made in the pre-summit conference aobut even a physics dept cloud should use image import, not direct upload14:47
rosmaitaeven though all users are smart and trusted14:47
rosmaitathat way, it's same interface across all clouds14:47
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mclarensure14:47
rosmaitaso to make that happen, i think we need to go with stuart's plan for glance-direct first implementation14:47
rosmaita(much as i'd rather do the swift-based one)14:48
mclarenrosmaita: then we aim for a sociology dept? ;-)14:48
nikhilyes, and I doubt if there's any other way14:48
nikhilLOL14:48
rosmaitamclaren: not sure i can handle postmodern virtual machine images14:48
mclarenlol14:48
nikhilrosmaita: yeah, I doubt if this will be MVP (or considered MVP by some) unless we implement swift based one too14:48
mclarenanyway, we've a skeleton to talk through at the summit I guess14:49
nikhilit being that main reason for this refactor14:49
nikhilhow about we start working on a spec for this before the summit so that we know what we are discussing on?14:49
rosmaitaummm... i think we have a spec14:50
rosmaitaapproved, and everything14:50
jokke_rosmaita: ++14:50
nikhilwell it's a direction14:50
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rosmaitaspec actually says glance-direct will be done first14:50
nikhilwe still don't have implementation details and know what are our constraints14:50
nikhilfor eg. what are the operator impacts with this import way vs. regular way14:50
mclarennot sure a spec is needed -- let's discuss at summit?14:50
nikhil(ref. staging area)14:50
nikhilsure, I don't mind having this in a etherpad (no spec in that case) just need to know what, when, how for newton14:51
rosmaitamy feeling is let's work on stuart's etherpad (within the constraints of the approved spec) before hte summit, then at the summit we'll be in a good position to assign work items and realistically see what can be deliverd in newton14:51
nikhilbecause, I can't be really tentative in my communications of 1) proposer: we have this feature for newton, will you be able to get that in ? -- ans (nikhil): I don't know, I can't say 2) proposer: when will you know ? nikhil: I don't know14:53
nikhilas long as we agree to agree (and not agree to disagree or more) at the summit, it's fine with me14:54
rosmaitawell, we will know more at the summit ... i mean, the api is set, no more arguing about that, we (me & stuart) can work on implementation details between now and hte summit14:54
nikhilrosmaita: cool, that sounds good. I'd love to be involved in the implementation details too.14:54
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nikhillet me move on for now14:55
nikhil#topic open discussion14:55
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rosmaitaoh, sure, don't mean to exclude anyone ... everyone is welcome to join in the mess!14:55
mfedosinfolks, do you know about an issue in glance v1?14:55
nikhilrosmaita: I think it's a fun challenging work item! Can't wait to get my hands on (some or more) of the code for this!!!!!14:55
jokke_mfedosin: plenty :)14:56
mfedosinyou can't sort by public images there14:56
nikhilmfedosin: well, it's glance v1 for first :P14:56
mclarenmfedosin: how do you mean?14:56
avarnerThis will be my last weekly meeting, due to a change in job responsibilities. I'm no longer working on glance, although I do plan to finish the items assigned to me.14:56
mfedosinif you provide is_public=true then it list all images14:56
mclarenheh, give me one second, there's a link for that14:56
mfedosindarja told me today, but I haven't checked yet14:56
nikhilavarner:  Thanks Drew, for letting us know! I'd like to sync offline a bit more on that with you.14:57
jokke_avarner: sorry to hear, are you staying withing OpenStack still, and thanks for everything you have done!14:57
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mclarenmfedosin: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/glanceapi.html Note Use of the is_public parameter is restricted to admin users. For all other users it will be ignored.14:58
avarnerjokke_, I'll be working on container stuff in IBM, probably not much Openstack14:58
mfedosinmclaren: ah, cool! thank you14:58
nikhilbtw, do people need email sent from me endorsing the utmost necessity for your presence at the mid-cycle to help you talk with the managers? (this is serious question)14:58
jokke_avarner: well best of luck then for your future adventures14:59
rosmaitanikhil: yes for me, don't know if it will have any effect, though14:59
mclarenmfedosin: the v1 is_public filter was always kinda broken14:59
avarnerjokke_, thanks!14:59
nikhilrosmaita: it doesn't hurt to try!14:59
nikhil:)14:59
jokke_nikhil: won't change a thing14:59
nikhiljokke_: oopsie :/14:59
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mfedosin"Use of the is_public parameter is restricted to admin users" but it doesn't work even for admins now14:59
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rosmaitamfedosin: we've had to disable image-list for admins by policy in our cloud15:00
nikhilyeah15:00
rosmaitatoo many images15:00
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mfedosinwe had to disable v115:00
nikhilyeah -> is_public filtering is tricky indeed15:00
nikhilwe're out of time15:00
mclarenmfedosin: hmm, might be a bug so?15:01
nikhilThanks all for joining!15:01
jokke_thanks!15:01
rosmaitanova uses image_type to distinguish base images from snapshots15:01
mfedosinwill check in a moment15:01
nikhilguys, I think SL team is waiting for us to finish15:01
nikhillet's sync on -glance15:01
nikhilthanks again15:01
nikhil#endmeeting15:01
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nikhilTravT: all yours15:02
nikhil:)15:02
TravTthanks nikhil!15:02
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TravT#startmeeting openstack search15:02
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TravTo/15:02
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TravTokay. i think sjmc7 is around too.15:03
sjmc7morning15:04
TravThttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/search-team-meeting-agenda15:04
TravT#topic Backport 0.2.115:04
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TravTThe items we talked about last week are in15:04
TravThttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/searchlight+branch:stable/mitaka15:04
TravTeverything on there since Apr 815:04
TravTyingjun: submited a fix this morning that i'd consider as well15:05
TravTif we agree on handling15:05
TravThttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/305627/15:05
sjmc7i’m not sure thiose are the only fields with disagreeing mappings15:06
TravTi'm not either...15:06
TravTbut i'd like to backport mappings as necessary15:07
TravTbecause if somebody does deploy15:07
TravTthey'll have to re-index15:07
TravTto pick up mapping changes15:07
TravTso, better to get those backported, i think.15:07
sjmc7yeah, i guess i was saying if we’re going to do that we should check all the mappings rather than doing it piecemeal15:08
TravT+1 that15:08
TravTso...15:08
sjmc7i’ll run the es 2 migration tool on an index today15:08
sjmc7there’s another related bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/searchlight/+bug/153201015:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1532010 in OpenStack Search (Searchlight) "Identically named fields with different definitions not allowed in elasticsearch 2.0" [Undecided,New]15:09
TravThmmm15:09
sjmc7i’ll run the migration tool after this to get the list of fields now we’ve added a load of stuff15:10
TravTok, that'd be very helpful.15:10
sjmc7and it really should be a test job15:10
TravTinteresting thing about that...15:10
lakshmiSwell removing doc type will be a major change15:10
sjmc7doc type isn’t being removewd15:10
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lakshmiSisnt 2.0 doc type is not suggested15:10
TravTis a ramification might end up being that some types have to go in different resource groups (once that patch lands to re-enable it)15:10
TravTwe can try to keep field mapping in sync for as long as possible.15:11
sjmc7lakshmiS: doc types still exist in 2.0, but they’re enforcing rules more strictly15:11
sjmc7TravT: yeah, if we really can’t make two fields agree they’d need renaming or a separate group15:12
sjmc7though i guess i’d prefer to map the field twice and store it both ways15:12
TravTlike raw strings?15:13
sjmc7yeah. anyway, i’ll see how many fields are affected15:13
TravTOkay, cool15:13
TravTthanks sjmc715:13
TravTbased on that, will decide whether or not to hold up 0.2.1 tag15:13
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RickA-HPsjmc7: Storing it twice, wil that complicate the queries?15:14
sjmc7i don’t know15:14
TravTfor things like volume size...15:15
TravTfor now changing that to long is fine with me15:15
TravTand let the buyer beware15:15
TravTon horizon side now, we apply filters to the output to show correct unit15:16
TravTbut possibly we could have an enhancement to provide a normalized field size too.15:16
TravT(new field)15:16
TravTbut that would need to be separate patch, i think15:16
TravTi mean using https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/_multi_fields.html15:17
TravTdo something like15:17
TravThave long for the base type def, then have a .mb .gb field15:18
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TravTanyway... let's take that discussion to the patch15:18
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TravT#topic Summit Finalization15:19
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TravTI've filled out our fishbowl and 1st working session15:20
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TravT#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-04-28&summit_types=2&tags=172815:20
TravTfishbowl is the whole notifications talk15:20
TravTand i've tagged several other projects to see if we get participation15:20
TravT1st working session is for cross region15:20
TravTof note is that horizon has a session where searchlight has been tagged15:21
sjmc7yeah, that’s good15:21
TravTfor the 2nd searchlight session15:22
TravTwe have a few options15:22
TravThttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/searchlight-newton-summit15:22
TravTI'm thinking of splitting it and just seeing if we get to more than the first topic15:22
TravTFirst topic would be the pipeline architecture if we get representation for lei-zh's team in attendance15:23
sjmc7yeah, i think last time we went over a bunch of stuff15:23
TravTsecond topic would be priorities review15:23
sjmc7in our sweaty little room15:23
TravTyes, that was quite packed last time15:23
rosmaitaTravT: the first work session is up against a nova/glance session on moving to images v215:23
rosmaitai had to sit on the floor15:23
sjmc7you can sit on a chair this time15:24
TravTrosmaita: oh...15:24
lei-zhok, I'll double check with yuntong15:24
TravTso it seems like you'd be very important for cross region15:24
TravTso i could move that to the second session15:24
* rosmaita blushes15:24
sjmc7:D15:24
rosmaitathat would be cool15:24
TravTokay, i'll do that15:24
sjmc7be good to grab brad and david for that one, too15:25
sjmc7and maybe eric15:25
TravTyeah, definitely15:25
rosmaitajust checked, that 2nd time doesn't conflict with any glance stuff15:25
sjmc7ok. does it conflict with horizon?15:25
TravTit shouldn't15:25
TravTbut let me check15:25
sjmc7i guess we can figure it out15:25
sjmc7thanks for pointing that out, rosmaita. timing clashes are the theme of summits :)15:26
david-lyleIIRC horizon and searchlight had no conflicts15:26
sjmc7splendid15:26
TravThere's horizon schedule https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=horizon%3A15:27
TravTno conflicts15:27
TravTokay, so we'll make that change15:27
rosmaitathanks!15:28
nikhilo/15:28
TravTand i'll make the first working session be the pot of stew15:28
nikhilquick ques15:28
TravTwe'll throw whatever we can in15:28
TravTnikhil: shoot15:28
rosmaitai was supposed to bring pie, can't remember why now15:28
nikhil* should I tag SL against Glare session? (trying to see if there was interest)15:28
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TravTthat was the artifact and app catalog right?15:28
nikhilor people can choose to sync with app-catalog folks off-the-band too15:29
nikhilTravT: yeah15:29
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TravTseems like there will be some discussion of interest there, so i'm okay if you tag it15:29
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nikhilthis one https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9162?goback=115:29
nikhilok, sounds good. will do that then.15:29
nikhildone15:30
nikhiland done (tagging)15:30
nikhilthanks15:30
TravToh boy, that one does conflict with a horizon topic of particular interest as well15:30
TravThorizon scaling15:30
sjmc7:)15:31
nikhiloopsie15:31
TravTwell we'll try to figure it out.15:31
nikhilwell I hope rosmaita can be a liaison then ? :)15:31
rosmaitafor which one?15:31
TravTyes. he can also bring the pie15:31
nikhilrosmaita: for Glare and app catalog interactions and the need for SL15:32
rosmaitasure15:32
nikhilthx15:32
TravTthx rosmaita15:32
rosmaitaactually, i better check15:32
rosmaitaok, that's already on my calendar ... duh! so just to get this straight, i will represent searchlight at the glare/app catalog glance working session?15:33
TravTthat's our hope!15:34
rosmaitaok, got it15:34
rosmaitabut no pie for that session15:34
rosmaitai only bring pie to searchlight15:34
sjmc7woo!15:34
TravTsweet15:34
TravTmaybe yingjun can also make that one.15:34
* rosmaita wonders how to get pie through the TSA15:34
TravThide a knife in it15:34
nikhilheh15:35
rosmaitai can use the knife as a distraction15:35
nikhilI think you can carry a swiss knife these days (but not entirely sure)15:35
rosmaitayes, but can you carry a pie?15:35
nikhilyeah as long as it's not too soggy15:36
rosmaitait can only be 6 ounces15:36
TravTwell, i'm thinking that if you put a knife in it, it will become invisible on their radiation screens15:36
nikhilthe liquid part needs to be <<< crust15:36
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TravTso you'll slip straight through15:36
nikhil:)15:36
yingjunTravT which one?15:36
rosmaitai don;'t know, didn't they catch a guy the other day with a pot grinder shaped like a hand grenade?15:36
TravTpumpkin15:36
TravTyingjun: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9162?goback=115:37
rosmaitai guess we are getting off topic here15:37
TravTbasically app catalog is considering using a glance API called glare and they are also talking about indexing into elastic search15:37
TravTso there might come up some discussion about using searchlight for their ES needs15:38
rosmaitayingjun: it would be good for you to make it, as someone who would actually know something about searchlight15:38
rosmaitai will go too, but i don't have a lot of depth15:39
yingjunTravT, thanks, seems interesting, i’ll try to make that15:39
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TravTokay, great!15:39
TravTokay, so only other thing is if we want to try to get together for lunch or dinner some day?15:40
TravTsummit is always hectic15:40
rosmaitai want to go to this on tuesday evening: http://www.antonesnightclub.com/event/1125203-greg-izor-box-kickers-austin/15:40
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rosmaitadon't think there's anything "official" yet on tuesday evening15:41
TravTthat looks interesting.15:41
rosmaitadoors for the above open at 9 and tickets are only $5, so i think you have to show up early15:41
rosmaitawill talk to a guy i know in austin who's familiar with the music scene to find out15:42
TravTokay, that'd be great15:42
TravTmaybe you can report back next week?15:42
rosmaitaanyway, my point was, if we do dinner, need to be done by 8:30 or so if we do it tuesday15:42
sjmc7i do eat pretty fast15:42
rosmaitaok, will do15:42
TravTokay.15:42
TravTone other topic15:42
TravT#newton specs15:42
rosmaitaalso, i have some info to put on the cross region spec15:43
TravT#topic newton specs15:43
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TravTokay15:43
TravT    Cross region searching discussion (sjmc7): https://review.openstack.org/30122715:43
TravTyou can add there15:43
TravTor discuss now15:43
TravTwe also have the session15:43
sjmc7yeah, all information is good. won’t be committing to implementing anything til after the summit15:44
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rosmaitai will put it on spec15:44
rosmaitacan also summarize here if we have time15:44
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TravTwell, other topic is an update on swift15:45
TravTnothing else i know of15:45
rosmaitaok, it's a good news/bad news kind of thing15:45
TravTok15:45
rosmaitagood news is that most customers seem to have all resources in a single region15:45
rosmaitaaround 90%, will put exact number on spec15:46
rosmaitaso good in the sense maybe don't need to do it15:46
rosmaitabad news is,15:46
rosmaitaof course we want to do it!  HA means multiple regions for most people15:46
rosmaitaand those customers tend to be the biggest15:46
rosmaitaanyway, that's the summary15:47
sjmc7yeah, we’ve got a similar issue15:47
sjmc7most people don’t need it, but the ones that do are the big ones15:47
TravTand the big ones probably would appreciate search more...15:48
rosmaitabut everyone here is +1 on the "stats" idea sjmc7 put on the spec15:48
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TravTi think so15:49
TravTtrying to find it again15:49
sjmc7https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301227/15:49
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TravTi don't think we'll be able to discuss deeply further today15:50
TravTso might give a quick update on swift if that's okay15:50
TravT#topic     Swift: (LakshmiS): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305404/15:50
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TravTlakshmiS: do you want to summarize?15:51
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lakshmiSsure15:51
lakshmiSwe met with swift team yesterday to discuss the client library15:52
lakshmiSsince they were hesitant to go with oslo/rabbit mq route15:52
lakshmiSthey were agreeing to use elasticsearch python client library to communicate directly with elasticsearch behind searchlight15:52
lakshmiSbut still they haven't quite figured where in their code we can make those calls from15:53
lakshmiSthey have given some pointers on calling it during container sync process15:53
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lakshmiS#link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_container_sync.html#what-s-going-on-behind-the-scenes-in-the-cluster15:54
TravTi think conceptually we may be looking at a big paradigm shift for that plugin.15:55
TravTwhere searchlight really only needs to have an API plugin for RBAC15:55
TravTbut not the indexing.15:55
TravTwill be interesting to explore this area further15:56
lakshmiSright. i was thinking to see if we can provide a interface with common methods if we have more than one plugin doing it that way15:56
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TravTwell thanks for the quick work on it15:58
TravTi know we gave them something pretty primitive relative to our real plugins15:58
TravTbut it was enough to continue the conversation15:58
lakshmiSyeah it was just for the meeting15:58
TravTokay,15:58
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TravTwell i think we're out of time15:59
TravTthanks everybody\15:59
TravT#endmeeting15:59
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odyssey4me#startmeeting OpenStack-Ansible16:06
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 14 16:06:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is odyssey4me. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:06
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odyssey4me#topic Agenda & Rollcall16:06
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spotz\o/16:07
mattt\o16:07
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odyssey4me#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/openstack-ansible#Agenda_for_next_meeting16:08
odyssey4me#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible/2016/openstack_ansible.2016-04-07-16.01.html16:08
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odyssey4meI had two action items last week - one to instrument all repositories for release notes. That's done in terms of our repo prep, I need to actually submit the infra patch to activate the jobs.16:09
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odyssey4me#action odyssey4me to submit patches to OpenStack-CI to activate release notes jobs for all IRR's16:09
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odyssey4methe other action item was to post the session details and send a notification to the ML16:10
odyssey4me#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091760.html16:10
odyssey4medone16:10
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odyssey4me#topic Newton Summit Planning16:11
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cloudnullo/16:11
odyssey4meautomagically you posted an etherpad for the one session - can you post it now to add to the meeting reference16:11
d34dh0r53o/16:12
odyssey4mehas anyone else managed to prep an etherpad and is looking for early feedback?16:12
automagicallyhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-dynamic-inventory16:12
automagically#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-dynamic-inventory16:12
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odyssey4melooks good to me16:16
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odyssey4meI encourage everyone to take a peek and if you manage to do any investigation and put patches together ahead of time, make notes and add them to the etherpad16:16
odyssey4methe more prepared we all are, the more productive the work session will be16:16
automagically++ to that ^16:17
cloudnull++16:18
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odyssey4mealright, I'll be doing most of my summit prep next week and hope to propose a few review for consideration and discussion16:18
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odyssey4meany other thoughts, comments, questions on the topic of the summit before we move on?16:19
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evrardjpnone16:19
automagicallynone here16:19
odyssey4mealrighty then16:20
odyssey4me#topic Release Planning and Decisions16:20
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odyssey4meWe're scheduled to release 13.0.1, 12.0.11, 11.2.14 next week Thu.16:21
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odyssey4meThe current state of the branch heads looks good. It seems like we have a rather healthy, stable base of code. :)16:21
odyssey4methe only issue that's a bit of a thorn in the side seems to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/156944616:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1569446 in openstack-ansible "Secondary nodes fail to join galera cluster" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Darren Birkett (darren-birkett)16:22
odyssey4mebut it seems that mancdaz has managed to find a workaround that we can implement at least16:22
spotznot very started but #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-role-docs16:22
odyssey4meso we should have something suitable for those releases16:22
odyssey4mespotz the link command needs to be at the start of the line I think16:23
odyssey4meie16:23
odyssey4me#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-role-docs16:23
spotzoops:)16:23
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odyssey4me:)16:23
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odyssey4meis anyone aware of any critical issues, or is anyone blocked on anything and needs assistance?16:24
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odyssey4me(related to any of the stable branches, or a master branch patch)16:24
mattti don't16:25
spotzme neither16:25
odyssey4mealrighty16:25
odyssey4me#topic Blueprint work16:25
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odyssey4meany updates for any of the feature work? michaelgugino, automagically, vdo ?16:26
odyssey4melogan- ^16:26
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automagicallyStill waiting on an internal team that’s been working OVS/DVR to get me their diffs so I can compare them to what we’ve already got in a submitted patch16:27
logan-will begin hacking on mitaka after the summit so next month perhaps ill have a review up for the calico stuff.16:27
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odyssey4meexcellent logan- :) our network subsystem support is starting to really awrm up nicely :)16:27
odyssey4me*warm16:27
evrardjpThanks for the work16:27
odyssey4meautomagically great to hear that your team is on it too :)16:28
odyssey4me#topic Open Discussion16:28
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odyssey4mewell, we have plenty of time to shoot the breeze16:28
stevellehave any of the broken out roles gotten multiple gate tests or scenarios tested in a single gate proposed yet?16:28
odyssey4mestevelle well, the galera_server role does multiple things16:29
stevelleI haven't seen, but there are a fair number of roles now16:29
cloudnullstevelle: the galera role will do an upgrade but its all in a single gate16:29
odyssey4mestevelle and I think that the ironic role may too - IDK if you made it test both standalone and integrated cloudnull ?16:29
cloudnullodyssey4me:  its all in a single gate16:29
stevelleI'll peek at that then16:30
odyssey4meyeah, all single job - but the preference is to pipeline things16:30
stevelleafraid the galera upgrade isn't as comparable16:30
odyssey4meie if it's possible to build the env, test, reconfigure, test then that's what infra preferrs16:30
cloudnullwe need to get the timeout higher to do more16:30
stevelle^ thats a concern for me16:30
matttyep my nova + tempest functional test needs more time too :(16:30
odyssey4mewe may have to get more creative with keeping it under the timeout first16:30
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cloudnulli think we just need to make it longer.16:31
odyssey4mefor instance it may make sense for some role to not bother building containers and just deploy everything on the host16:31
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stevelleI haven't done a time analysis yet because I still don't have convergence on gnocchi working in the gate but it seems strange to take a half hour to build 3 containers, install galera and 2 os_* services16:31
cloudnulli think that makes sense if the role doesnt have additional code paths when there is more than one instance16:31
odyssey4meI also need to put in a patch for infra to mirror mariadb16:31
cloudnullif the role does something else when there is n+1 then we need to test that16:32
odyssey4mecloudnull agreed, if n+1 is needed then containers make sense16:32
evrardjpdo we have metrics different that just parsing logs?16:32
stevelleI was planning to use tempest tests to verify a working deployment16:32
cloudnullwe have 1.5 hours on the integrated gate, we should get the same for the roles too16:32
jmccroryneed to collect additional logs for IRRs instead of just ansible output also16:33
evrardjpto see the time each step takes in average16:33
cloudnull+1 jmccrory16:33
stevelleI won't have time to deploy tempest and run it right now16:33
odyssey4mecloudnull infra is very reticent to increase timeouts16:33
cloudnullit'd also be nice to collect conf files too16:33
odyssey4mestevelle if you cull the containers, might that help?16:33
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cloudnullodyssey4me:  then we need external CI and we need to make it voting.16:33
odyssey4meyeah, we can add a log collection job - I'll do a patch for that16:33
stevelleodyssey4me: can't cull containers when I have 2 services using apache16:33
cloudnullthe infra roles are quick16:34
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cloudnullbut things like nova require building a cluster.16:34
odyssey4me#action odyssey4me to add review for the collection of IRR job logs16:34
cloudnullwhich requires an image, networks, ect.16:35
odyssey4mecloudnull external CI would be preferable, but that requires appropriate org sponsorship - I know that RPC may be ready to do that later in the cycle and automagically and I have spoken about it, but no hard plans yet.16:35
matttnova can probably go full bare metal16:35
automagicallyI have agreement in principal within my org, but need to get the work prioritized16:36
cloudnullso i think our only option is to get infra to give the jobs more time16:36
matttbut it's easier putting things into containers16:36
odyssey4mestevelle I think that perhaps we need to aim to adjust how we do the Apache bits so that we don't have them clashing16:36
evrardjpmattt nested virt could work16:36
stevelleodyssey4me: agreed, and I would like to see abt fronting w/ nginx also16:37
jmccroryshould apache be a separate role with horizon/keystone/whatever else providing vhost confs?16:37
stevellejmccrory: +116:37
matttjmccrory: +116:37
matttthat would be ideal16:37
odyssey4mejmccrory I would think so, yes.16:37
palendaeMaybe re-use an existing apache role there?16:37
evrardjpI agree jmccrory16:37
spotz+1 jmccrory16:37
jmccrorylooked like barbican wanted apache as well16:37
odyssey4meThere's likely a decent Apache role available in Galaxy that already supports multiple platforms and all that16:38
cloudnullsome projects have timeouts as large as 19016:38
spotzjmccrory: They working on it last I was involved with them16:38
cloudnullidk think its an issue to ask for a full hour16:38
stevelle+1 reuse a reverse-proxy if provided, identify roles to manage them -- ideally with optional container16:38
odyssey4mecloudnull I'll do a request for an increased timeout, or perhaps try and get a per-role setting so that we can customised it based on the specific role needs16:38
odyssey4mebut I do want to ensure that we think creatively and try to reduce the moving parts in the role tests16:39
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evrardjpodyssey4me what's the reason they are afraid?16:39
evrardjpof increasing the timeout16:39
evrardjpisn't it conditional on the repo?16:39
cloudnullbased on our project config we're not setting a timeout for our roles.16:39
odyssey4meevrardjp not afriad, they just have limited resources and longer timeouts mean that resources are held for longer16:39
cloudnulljust for the intagrated build16:39
cloudnullI think getting it set to 60 should be an easy proposition16:40
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stevellethe reality is that deploying and functionally testing that takes longer than unit testing.16:40
palendae^16:41
palendaeWe're doing full deploys of stuff16:41
cloudnullalso i'd rather us *not* think too creative to minimize time -- I'd like the tests to be representative of what will be deployed.16:41
stevelleour peg isn't round16:41
cloudnullwhat stevelle said16:41
palendaeDo the Puppet modules use infra?16:42
cloudnullthey do .16:42
palendaeI'd think they'd run into similar problems16:42
cloudnulltheir tests have a timeout of timeout: 6016:42
palendaeThough Puppet's language is more like a full programming language16:42
odyssey4mecloudnull we have the integrated build for the full functional test which is representative, and I hope that we can do the gate split to increase coverage16:42
odyssey4mepuppet, for instance, has 3 scenarios tested in their integrated build16:43
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odyssey4meso anyway, I'll discuss the timeouts with infra and find an appropriate solution which can be applied per role16:44
odyssey4mebut we should be creative in ensuring that we aren't wasting the time that we have to also ensure quick feedback16:44
evrardjpagree, best of both16:44
odyssey4mealso, less moving parts ensures a more focused test with a smaller chance of unrelated failures16:45
mattti think that is fair16:45
odyssey4me#action odyssey4me to submit a patch to increase the job timeout for selected roles16:46
cloudnullsorry lost connection for a min there.16:46
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odyssey4me#action odyssey4me to submit a patch to infra to mirror the mariadb repo to help reduce role job execution times, and reduce the risk of failure16:47
odyssey4mealright, is there anything else I can help with to smooth the glide path to success? ;)16:48
cloudnullhaha16:49
odyssey4meis there anything else that anyone would like to raise?16:49
cloudnullyou need to monitize your core competencies16:49
cloudnull:p16:49
evrardjpmonitize?16:49
palendaemonetize*16:50
cloudnull*monetize16:50
evrardjp:D16:50
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odyssey4mealrighty, if that's all then we're done for today16:51
cloudnullrelated to buzz words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyV_UG60dD416:51
odyssey4methank you all for participating - have an awesome day!16:51
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cloudnullhave a good one16:51
odyssey4me#endmeeting16:51
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evrardjpthanks everyone16:51
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cathy__#startmeeting service_chaining17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 14 17:00:47 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cathy__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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cathy__hi everyone17:00
yamahatahello17:01
LouisFhi17:01
doonhammerhi17:01
scsnowhi17:01
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cathy__Let's start17:01
cathy__#topic Meeting time change from Thursday 1700 UTC to Wednesday 1700 UTC17:02
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cathy__Russell Bryant who is the TC and Neutron core member would also like to join our IRC meeting, but the time conflict with OVN project IRC meeting. We would like him to join our meeting and give us guidance and input. Also some of us would like to join the OVN meeting for supporting integration of networking-sfc with OVN.17:04
cathy__So is this time change OK with everyone?17:04
LouisF+117:04
doonhammergood for me17:04
scsnowthis is one time change or permanent?17:05
cathy__permanent17:05
yamahataFrom the next week?17:05
scsnowok17:05
cathy__yamahata: yes17:05
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cathy__pcarver: and others OK with you?17:05
cathy__Please speak out if not OK with you:-)17:06
cathy__Looks like Vikram is not on line yet.17:07
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cathy__I will communicate with those who are not on line yet. If not objection, we will change the time to Wednesday 1700 UTC starting next week. I will send an email confirming this17:08
cathy__#agreed Meeting time change from Thursday 1700 UTC to Wednesday 1700 UTC17:09
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cathy__#topic Launch pad bug scrub17:09
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cathy__#link https://launchpad.net/networking-sfc17:09
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cathy__#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc17:10
cathy__#1569009 remove "mandatory" restriction for "source port" in the Flow Classifier API17:10
cathy__anyone would like to take ownership of this one?17:11
LouisFI will look at that17:11
cathy__LouisF: thanks17:12
cathy__#1567654 Add “SFC path-ID” parameter in the chain_param of the API17:12
cathy__Anyone?17:12
cathy__I can take this one17:13
cathy__#1567644 Add “Symmetric” parameter in the chain_param of the API17:13
scsnowI could look into simple issues. I'm not really familiar with code yet, but would like to get involed.17:13
cathy__scsnow: Thanks!17:13
cathy__#1566877 network-sfc doesn't look started17:14
cathy__The submitter is Jonathan Jacoby.17:15
LouisFthat is related to horizon support17:15
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LouisFcan assign to mohankumar?17:16
LouisFhe was expecting to see SFC tab in horizon17:16
cathy__LouisF: yes, you are right. I think once Horizon is merged this bug is gone since it asks for Horizon support17:17
cathy__I think we can close this bug17:17
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cathy__#1564455 Neutron did not start - While Stacking17:17
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georgewanghi17:18
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cathy__This one was also submitted by Jonathan Jacoby. The note says "it works now, never mind". So I will close this bug17:18
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cathy__ #1558020 API document have to modify as per changes introduced in flow classifier17:19
s3wonghello. Sorry --- late17:19
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fsunavalcathy_: I can look into it.17:19
fsunavalok17:19
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LouisFi think that one can also be closed based on last comment17:19
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cathy__s3wong: OK, we are doing bug srub now.17:19
cathy__scrub17:19
s3wongcathy__: OK17:19
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cathy__fsunaval: Mohan has assigned the API document one to himself.17:20
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cathy__let's go to the next one17:20
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cathy__Mohan sent me a note that he can not join today17:21
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cathy__#1558012 incorrect error message for invalid argument in "neutron port-pair-group-create --port-pair"17:21
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cathy__looks like Mohan is looking into this bug, I will assign to him17:23
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cathy__#1557600 port-chain-delete failing as "SfcDriverError"17:23
LouisFthats assigned to mohan17:24
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cathy__LouisF: yes17:24
cathy__ #1553886 remove-unwanted-dependencies17:24
cathy__OK, Xiaodong is looking into this17:25
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cathy__#1538332 Port Pair Create fails for Provider Network17:25
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cathy__This one was submitted by Prithiv (prithiv). Not sure if the error still happens. Could anyone take this one?17:27
georgewangI can take care bug 153833217:27
openstackbug 1538332 in networking-sfc "Port Pair Create fails for Provider Network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153833217:27
cathy__georgewang: thanks17:28
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cathy__Ok, all other bugs seem to be in progress17:30
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cathy__#topic Raise a bug for each code change17:31
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cathy__Currently there are cases that a patch is submitted for review without an associated bug.17:31
LouisFwe should do that17:32
vishnoianil+1 to that17:32
cathy__I am going to scrub those offline and contact each patch owner to submit a bug for each patch so that we can track them properly for back porting purpose.17:32
cathy__This issue was raised by Vikram.17:33
scsnowshould I open a bug of ongoing review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302324/?17:33
s3wong+117:33
cathy__From now on, let's follow the rule that each patch should have a bug for it17:33
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cathy__scsnow: sure. thanks.17:34
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scsnowok, will do17:34
cathy__#action Cathy will scrub all patches and make sure there is a bug associated with each patch17:34
cathy__#action scsnow will open a bug for patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302324/?17:35
cathy__#topic launchpad blueprint update/cleanup17:36
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cathy__#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/networking-sfc17:36
cathy__I will do some update on the BPs.17:37
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cathy__For the driver BP, I see the opendaylight-sfc-driver, we also need BPs for the ONOS-sfc-driver, Tacker-sfc-driver, native-OVS-sfc-driver and later OVN-sfc-driver17:39
cathy__I will ask vikram/mohan to post the ONOS-sfc-driver BP17:39
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cathy__LouisF: could you add the tacker-sfc-driver BP?17:39
LouisFyes17:40
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LouisFi will add a ovn bp also17:40
cathy__raofei: could you add the native-ovs-sfc-driver BP?17:41
cathy__LouisF: great, thanks!17:41
cathy__#action vikram/mohan add ONOS-sfc-driver BP17:41
cathy__#action LouisF adds tacker-sfc-driver BP and OVN-sfc-driver BP17:42
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cathy__#action Cathy update existing SFC BPs17:42
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cathy__OK, I will add the native-ovs-sfc-driver BP17:43
cathy__#action Cathy adds native-ovs-sfc-driver BP17:44
cathy__#topic Remove Source port “mandatory” requirement in the FC API17:44
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cathy__Based on email discussion we have agreed to remove the "mandatory" requirement for the "source port" in FC API.17:45
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cathy__We leave it to the SFC driver to decide whether requiring it or implementing its own way of automatically getting this source port.17:46
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cathy__any different opinion on this?17:46
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cathy__#agreed remove the "mandatory" requirement for the "source port" in FC API and leave it to the SFC driver to decide whether requiring it or implementing its own way of automatically getting this source port17:47
s3wong+117:47
LouisF+117:47
fsunaval+117:47
cathy__#topic Consistent Repository rule for networking-sfc related drivers: Northbound Tacker driver and Southbound ONOS driver, ODL driver, OVD driver17:48
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cathy__Shall we put all networking-sfc related drivers in networking-sfc repository?17:48
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s3wongcathy__: that is a good topic. I was actually wondering if vishnoianil should file ODL SFC driver under networking-sfc or networking-old17:49
s3wongcathy__: now he filed patch under networking-odl17:49
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cathy__s3wong: yes17:50
cathy__vishnoianil: are you there?17:50
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cathy__I guess the bug scrub topic makes people sleepy and people are not active today as before:-)17:51
yamahataSince vishnoinail doesn't seem here.17:51
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yamahatanetworking-odl doesn't have strict policy.17:51
yamahataIt's case-by-case basis.17:51
yamahataso sfc-odl-driver can be in networking-sfc or networking-odl17:52
cathy__yamahata: OK, thanks for the info. I see vishnoianil joins the meeting17:52
cathy__yamahata: OK.17:52
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s3wongcathy__: which way would you prefer?17:54
cathy__I would like to make a consistent rule for all drivers. putting it in networking-sfc will help people see all the available drivers at a centralized place when they need SFC functionality. If we put the drivers in different repo, people will not know what SFC drivers are available17:54
cathy__s3wong: I think putting them in one centralized place like networking-sfc probably makes more sense.17:54
LouisFseems reasonable17:55
fsunavalcathy__: I agree with you.  It makes most sense to keep all the drivers in networking-sfc.17:55
georgewangsounds good17:55
s3wongcathy__: I generally agree with that --- since networking-sfc is by itself a library depending on Neutron17:55
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cathy__yamahata: OK with you for odl-sfc-driver?17:56
LouisFthe onos driver is currently in a separate repo17:56
s3wongcathy__: so, if networking-odl, for example, which I assume is another library on top of Neutron, also implements some APIs from networking-sfc, it would be awkward in terms of installation17:56
yamahatacathy__: yeah. sounds reasonable. When patch review etc, please make sure add me.17:56
cathy__yamahata: Ok, sure will do17:57
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vishnoianilcathy__, i personally think this should be in networking-odl project17:57
vishnoianilcathy__, because networking-odl project is an integration point for OpenDaylight17:58
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LouisFonos driver https://github.com/openstack/networking-onos17:58
LouisFwe can speak to vikram about that17:59
cathy__vishnoianil: I agree that networking-odl be in a separate repo. But odl-sfc-driver is an integration between networking-sfc and networking-odl which can be put in either repo17:59
cathy__LouisF: yes17:59
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vishnoianilcathy__, LouisF , i see bit of confusion here for the folks who deploy openstack with opendaylight, they will see that some of the driver are in networking-odl, but for rest of the driver then need to go to specifc project17:59
yamahatasupplement. my position here is a coordinator. If the actual contributer, in this case, vishnoianil, has opinions, we should listen18:00
cathy__I will speak with vikram offline since he is not in the meeting today18:00
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vishnoianilcathy__, given that all the driver project see networking-sfc as a API provider and not really a implementation provider18:00
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vishnoianilcathy__, we probably end up with the same issue that neutron had in it's earlier days and then they refactored the projects and moved out the specific drivers18:01
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LouisFvishnoianil: good point - depends on ownership18:02
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vishnoianilcathy__, maintaining these drivers in their own repos, will probably be more easy for the maintainer and also for networking-sfc project to avoid additional maintenance  head ache18:02
cathy__vishnoianil: I think for controller case, most of the logic will be in ODL controller, not in the odl-sfc-driver?18:02
vishnoianilyeah, so all the drivers are just pass through drivers, so having them in networking-odl make life easier for everyone18:03
yamahataIs any (big) API change planed in near term?18:03
vishnoianilcathy__, it does not make sense for ishaku to come and review a gerrit that is pushed to networking-sfc18:03
cathy__vishnoianil: Ok, I see your point. time is up. Let's continue the discussion in next week IRC.18:03
vishnoianilcathy__, for networking-odl driver :)18:03
vishnoianilcathy__, sure18:03
s3wongLouisF, cathy__, vishnoianil: I just wonder whether it is strange for networking-xxx to have reference to implement networking-sfc APIs while users may NOT load networking-sfc library18:04
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cathy__s3wong: good point.18:04
cathy__Ok, folks, time is up. Let's think about about the consequence of this and discuss in next meeting18:05
LouisFbye18:05
cathy__Bye now18:05
scsnowbye18:05
yamahatabye18:05
s3wongbye18:05
fsunavalbye18:05
cathy__#endmeeting18:05
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