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| gsagie | Hello, anyone for Dragonflow meeting? :) | 07:56 |
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| dingboopt | o/ | 07:58 |
| gsagie | Hi dingoboopt | 07:58 |
| gsagie | good to see you :) | 07:58 |
| dingboopt | me too | 07:59 |
| gsagie | ok, so i see only two of us here | 08:00 |
| gsagie | #startmeeting dragonflow | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 18 08:00:44 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gsagie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: dragonflow)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'dragonflow' | 08:00 |
| gsagie | #info short meeting with dingboopt, Shlomo_N | 08:01 |
| gsagie | ok, so just to update anyone we had a very busy last week, we did a Dragonflow meetup in Hangzhou, and i then did another one in Shanghai, with some internal Huawei members but also other community members from China, companies like AWCloud and UnitedStack were participating | 08:02 |
| gsagie | we talked about some interesting challenges and our roadmap and as it seems we going to have some big number of people joining the project | 08:03 |
| gsagie | and some nice ideas were brought up, so we have challenging schedule before end of April | 08:03 |
| gsagie | No need to update a lot more on this meeting, our next meeting will be busy, i do want to work on the overall design that we talked about and create the final list of tasks | 08:04 |
| gsagie | dingboopt, Shlomo_N: anything to add/update? | 08:04 |
| dingboopt | complete code about sync sg rules from DF db to local cache | 08:05 |
| dingboopt | update patch set | 08:05 |
| gsagie | dingboopt: ok great will take a look | 08:05 |
| dingboopt | now the only missing part is the sg app | 08:06 |
| gsagie | #info dingboopt finished sync sg rules and local cache update, need to review patch everyone | 08:06 |
| dingboopt | I will implement it this week | 08:06 |
| gsagie | dingboopt: please contact the guy from Beijing that suppose to also work on it, i think he should do it and you should start doing the port security part | 08:06 |
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| dingboopt | ok | 08:07 |
| gsagie | need to write the updated design we talked about in the meetings | 08:07 |
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| gsagie | just noticed i started the meeting 1 hour earlier :) | 08:08 |
| gsagie | heh | 08:08 |
| gsagie | still confused with time zone | 08:08 |
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| gsagie | so lets continue in around 50 minutes | 08:08 |
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| gsagie | #endmeeting | 08:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:08 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 18 08:08:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-01-18-08.00.html | 08:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-01-18-08.00.txt | 08:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/dragonflow/2016/dragonflow.2016-01-18-08.00.log.html | 08:08 |
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| gsagie | ok second try :) | 08:58 |
| gsagie | anyone for the REAL dragonflow meeting? ;) | 08:58 |
| yuli_s | good morning | 08:58 |
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| gsagie | hi yuli | 08:58 |
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| gsagie | steve from IBM? | 09:00 |
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| dingboopt | o/ | 09:00 |
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| Shlomo_N | hi | 09:03 |
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| juno_zhu | hi | 09:06 |
| juno_zhu | when to start? | 09:06 |
| gsagie | Hi | 09:07 |
| gsagie | juno_zhu: we don't have a weekly meeting today, but we are catching up in #openstack-dragonflow if you want to join | 09:08 |
| steve_ruan | There is spelling error in meeting minutes | 09:08 |
| steve_ruan | I changed it to 2016 | 09:09 |
| juno_zhu | gsagie: ok, thx | 09:09 |
| gsagie | steve_ruan: thanks! :) | 09:09 |
| steve_ruan | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Dragonflow#Meeting_January_4_2016 | 09:09 |
| steve_ruan | np | 09:09 |
| gsagie | good catch | 09:09 |
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| yuli_s | looks like no official meeting here, people are talking at #openstack-dragonflow | 09:29 |
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| apuimedo | #startmeeting kuryr | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 18 15:02:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is apuimedo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 15:02 |
| apuimedo | Welcome everybody to another kuryr meeting! | 15:02 |
| apuimedo | who's here for the show? | 15:02 |
| vikasc | o/ | 15:02 |
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| banix | o/ | 15:02 |
| fawadkhaliq | o/ | 15:02 |
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| apuimedo | #info vikasc banix fawadkhaliq and apuimedo are present | 15:03 |
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| apuimedo | Thank you for joining the meeting | 15:03 |
| apuimedo | We don't have an agenda so this is going to be a bit fast | 15:04 |
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| apuimedo | #topic ipam | 15:04 |
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| apuimedo | vikasc: is everything you had on the backlog merged? | 15:05 |
| banix | may i suggest we get the ipam patches reviewed and merged as soon as possib;e | 15:05 |
| vikasc | few small small fixes are waiting for review | 15:05 |
| banix | small fixes are necessary to make the code functional | 15:05 |
| apuimedo | banix: you definitely may | 15:05 |
| apuimedo | yes, I wanted to say that we currently have it a bit broken | 15:06 |
| apuimedo | :P | 15:06 |
| banix | otherwise the code as is is not functiona | 15:06 |
| banix | yes | 15:06 |
| irenab | vikasc: banix : can you please post the list of the patches urgent to review? | 15:06 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: please link the patches that are necessary for the fixes | 15:06 |
| apuimedo | and let's get them tested and merged by Wednesday the latest | 15:06 |
| vikasc | i will drop a mail | 15:06 |
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| apuimedo | very well | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | #action vikasc to send an email to the ml about the remaining patches to get ipam into a working state | 15:07 |
| banix | here are all patches by vikas: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:choudharyvikas16%2540gmail.com+status:open | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:choudharyvikas16%2540gmail.com+status:open | 15:07 |
| apuimedo | banix: vikasc: have you tried if with all of those it is completely functional | 15:08 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, yes, i have tried | 15:08 |
| apuimedo | good :-) | 15:08 |
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| apuimedo | #action: apuimedo irenab banix to review and get those merged | 15:08 |
| banix | the ones i have +2’ed are working | 15:09 |
| apuimedo | good | 15:09 |
| banix | will lokk at the rest and try them | 15:09 |
| irenab | same here | 15:09 |
| apuimedo | I'll get through them between today and tomorrow | 15:09 |
| vikasc | thanx banix apuimedo irenab | 15:09 |
| apuimedo | #topic COE integration | 15:09 |
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| apuimedo | #info banix did a very nice blog post about swarm integration | 15:10 |
| apuimedo | banix: could you maybe put some documentation in the repository about using swarm? | 15:10 |
| fawadkhaliq | +1 | 15:10 |
| banix | apuimedo: yes sure | 15:10 |
| apuimedo | thanks :-) | 15:10 |
| vikasc | banix, Can you please share link of blog post | 15:11 |
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| apuimedo | #action banix to submit a bit of a quickstart for using kuryr with swarm in the documentation | 15:11 |
| banix | #link http://mbanikazemi.com | 15:11 |
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| apuimedo | #link http://mbanikazemi.com/2016/01/07/docker-swarm-and-kuryr/ | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | :-) | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | for when you have a new blog post to keep having the correct link :P | 15:12 |
| apuimedo | About Kubernetes | 15:12 |
| banix | i have been planning to add more to it and make it better but haven’t got the chance yet. | 15:12 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, :D thanks | 15:12 |
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| apuimedo | banix: I saw that you and Mike Spreitzer are looking at running Kubernetes and make it consume the libnetwork kuryr daemon for binding | 15:14 |
| banix | apuimedo: yes, still looking into how/if this is possible | 15:14 |
| apuimedo | same here :P | 15:14 |
| fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: banix..talking about Kubernetes and libnetwork, ran into this over the weekend | 15:15 |
| apuimedo | irenab: can you refresh us with the kuryr etherpad for kubernetes integration? | 15:15 |
| fawadkhaliq | #link http://blog.kubernetes.io/2016/01/why-Kubernetes-doesnt-use-libnetwork.html | 15:15 |
| fawadkhaliq | :-) | 15:15 |
| apuimedo | fawadkhaliq: yes. We were discussing with Tim on Friday on the sig meeting | 15:15 |
| apuimedo | there was Mike and I on the call | 15:15 |
| irenab | apuimedo: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kuryr_k8s | 15:16 |
| apuimedo | while they want to keep Kubernetes able to pass the necessary "flags" to docker for it to connect to libnetwork | 15:16 |
| banix | yes, have been trying to watch the recording but the play back doesb’t work for me | 15:16 |
| apuimedo | thanks irenab | 15:16 |
| apuimedo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kuryr_k8s | 15:16 |
| irenab | apuimedo: can you give some brief summary? | 15:17 |
| apuimedo | I feel like we need to also follow the CNI discussion | 15:17 |
| fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: cool cool. | 15:17 |
| fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: agree | 15:17 |
| banix | apuimedo: yes | 15:17 |
| banix | and participate as it is still early on | 15:17 |
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| fawadkhaliq | banix: absolutely | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | what I take from the meeting is that we need to make sure that the current state of things gets unbroken (IIRC nowadays we can't pass the flags to plug to libnetwork networks, they proposed to put net as default but that does not work) | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | but more importantly | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | for the future | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | we need to participate in the discussion | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | and work on a cni plugin | 15:18 |
| irenab | cni plugin supporting kuryr networkm type? | 15:18 |
| apuimedo | networkm? | 15:19 |
| fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: agree. let's have some representation from kuryr team there as well | 15:19 |
| irenab | sorry :-) network | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | irenab: oh, I thought you meant network model :P | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | well, there's two ways that are immediately apparent | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | one is | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | cni plugin that calls to kuryr | 15:19 |
| apuimedo | another is cni plugin in python that reuses parts of kuryr code (with a bit of healthy refactoring) | 15:20 |
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| apuimedo | I have to say that I prefer the latter | 15:20 |
| banix | apuimedo: why is that? | 15:20 |
| irenab | apuimedo: so kuryr is more conceptual thing, link to neutron api? | 15:21 |
| fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: with cni model, kuryr southbound interface would be interesting to define | 15:21 |
| apuimedo | irenab: bring neutron networking to containers | 15:21 |
| banix | irenab: i see | 15:21 |
| apuimedo | CNI works for rkt | 15:21 |
| apuimedo | for example | 15:21 |
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| apuimedo | fawadkhaliq: indeed | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | how I see it, it may necessitate kuryr to have a core library and different "frontends" | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | since the models differ a bit | 15:22 |
| irenab | for me there are alot of questions regarding how kuryr fits into kube ecosystem | 15:22 |
| apuimedo | irenab: agreed | 15:23 |
| fawadkhaliq | yup | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | we need more brains into the k8s meetings :P | 15:23 |
| irenab | apuimedo: I think you may be correct about core and different frontends | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | and after that in mesos | 15:23 |
| vikasc | cni passes just two args "ADD" and "DEL". how we are goint to map it existing kuryr? i guess will not be able to reuse much of existing code. | 15:23 |
| fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: +1 | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: if you look at libnetwork now | 15:23 |
| apuimedo | we already have two drivers (thanks to you for the second one) | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | one that does binding | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | one that does ipam | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | in kubernetes | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | I suspect that we need a similar approach | 15:24 |
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| apuimedo | one that will get the connectivity information and prepare the ports | 15:24 |
| irenab | apuimedo: its not only binding, it is neutron logical topology creation as well. I think its the third part | 15:24 |
| apuimedo | and the cni plugin that will bind | 15:24 |
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| vikasc | apuimedo, how about having k8s plugin totally seperate from existing controllers.py | 15:25 |
| vikasc | for example, like Calico k8s plugin | 15:26 |
| apuimedo | banix: you probably heard that in k8s they have the gap of passing the "allowfrom" down the cni plugin or getting it to the networking layer somehow | 15:26 |
| vikasc | they are maintaing it totally seperate from lbnetwork driver | 15:26 |
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| irenab | vikasc: I think there should be low level controller driver that calls neutron, this can/sould be reused | 15:26 |
| apuimedo | vikasc: it's not a libnetwork driver, is it, for Calico? | 15:26 |
| vikasc | https://github.com/projectcalico/calico-cni/blob/master/calico_cni/calico_cni.py | 15:26 |
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| apuimedo | vikasc: but yes, I'm not saying to reuse almost all | 15:27 |
| apuimedo | I'm thinking of refactoring the bits that we find useful into libraries | 15:27 |
| apuimedo | and then have the libnetwork driver in a directory | 15:27 |
| banix | apuimedo: dont know that issue | 15:28 |
| fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: +1 | 15:28 |
| apuimedo | the cni one in another, etc | 15:28 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, +1 for refactoring into modular libraries | 15:28 |
| apuimedo | and have they consume the kuryr python package | 15:28 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, +1 | 15:28 |
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| apuimedo | it will enforce better modularity anyway | 15:28 |
| vikasc | apuimedo, making sense | 15:28 |
| irenab | apuimedo: do you mind to put up some proposal for refactoring kuryr? | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | #info: seems like there is consensus in having a kuryr python package with common bits and directories for different drivers | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | irenab: I shall have to | 15:29 |
| apuimedo | #action apuimedo to submit refactoring proposal | 15:29 |
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| apuimedo | the good thing is that the swarm directory will just be documentation for now :P | 15:30 |
| banix | sounds good | 15:30 |
| apuimedo | on using the libnetwork driver | 15:30 |
| banix | yes nothing to do specifically for swarm | 15:31 |
| fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: lol | 15:31 |
| vikasc | i want to write a poc k8s driver. Will it be helpful. I have understood current flow of cni in k8s | 15:31 |
| banix | then there is mesos and all | 15:31 |
| apuimedo | banix: indeed | 15:31 |
| apuimedo | for mesos I suspect we may start with just giving some directions about connecting to the network passing flags to the docker containerizer | 15:32 |
| apuimedo | and then we can grow it as people join work in making the integration better | 15:32 |
| banix | with significant gap as of now; seems they are not caught up with network cli | 15:32 |
| apuimedo | #topic openfloor | 15:32 |
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| apuimedo | banix: yeah... last time I checked it seemed like you had to hack a bit the c++ containerizer | 15:32 |
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| apuimedo | anybody else wants to raise more things? | 15:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | apuimedo: banix. I had added the initial draft of nested containers proposal | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | I saw fawadkhaliq submitted an early version of the spec for vm nested containers | 15:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269039/ | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | fawadkhaliq: you were faster to type than me :P | 15:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | reviews welcome :) | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | thanks a lot for the submission | 15:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | lol | 15:33 |
| banix | fawadkhaliq: yes thank you | 15:33 |
| apuimedo | #action all to review the proposal | 15:33 |
| vikasc | fawadkhaliq, thanks | 15:33 |
| fawadkhaliq | I will be adding more details. Jugging several balls at the same time. | 15:34 |
| fawadkhaliq | thanks guys | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | #action all to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269039/ | 15:34 |
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| fawadkhaliq | This capture the high level design. We can all collaborate to improve it. | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | devvesa has created a bug for the rdo team to review the inclusion of a kuryr libnetwork driver package | 15:34 |
| apuimedo | fawadkhaliq: cool :-) | 15:35 |
| apuimedo | I can't tell when devvesa will have time to work on the deb package yet though :P | 15:35 |
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| apuimedo | anybody else has more topics? | 15:36 |
| banix | we need to also have a list of things what we definitely want to do for M | 15:36 |
| apuimedo | banix: perfectly right | 15:36 |
| vikasc | banix, +1 | 15:36 |
| irenab | any update on the testing? | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | actually, for me, the list of "absolute must do was:" | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | *IPAM | 15:37 |
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| apuimedo | *testing | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | *swarm | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | *packaging | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | in terms of implementation | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | and in terms of spec/design: | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | *k8s | 15:37 |
| apuimedo | *vm-nested | 15:37 |
| banix | bahoa and gal are working on that fron; have to check with them. will do that. | 15:37 |
| banix | i meant testing | 15:38 |
| apuimedo | I have some patches to review from them | 15:38 |
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| apuimedo | yeah ;-) | 15:38 |
| irenab | banix: thanks | 15:38 |
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| apuimedo | alright, if nobody else has further things to add | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | going 3 | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | goind 2 | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | going 1 | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | gone! | 15:39 |
| apuimedo | thank you all for joining | 15:40 |
| banix | thanks! | 15:40 |
| apuimedo | and for all the work in the past week | 15:40 |
| irenab | thanks :-) | 15:40 |
| apuimedo | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 18 15:40:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-18-15.02.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-18-15.02.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2016/kuryr.2016-01-18-15.02.log.html | 15:40 |
| fawadkhaliq | thanks | 15:40 |
| fawadkhaliq | bye! | 15:40 |
| apuimedo | bye | 15:40 |
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| Sukhdev | Folks, time for Ironic-neutron meeting | 16:00 |
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| Sukhdev | #startmeeting ironic_neutron | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 18 16:01:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_neutron' | 16:01 |
| lazy_prince | o/ | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 16:02 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-neutron#Meeting_January_18.2C_2016 | 16:02 |
| Sukhdev | Today is MLK holiday in USA - lets see who is here? | 16:03 |
| yhvh | o/ | 16:03 |
| vsaienko | \o | 16:03 |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Announcements | 16:03 |
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| devananda | o/ | 16:04 |
| Sukhdev | I think M2 cutoff date is this week sometime | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | I do not have any announcements - does anybody have any? | 16:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Integration Testing Status | 16:05 |
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| Sukhdev | So, I tested most of the patches last week | 16:05 |
| Sukhdev | other than one patch, all seem to work fine | 16:06 |
| vsaienko | Sukhdev: I will upload new series of patches today, that contains small fixes | 16:06 |
| lazy_prince | We also tested the patches and they seem to work fine.. | 16:06 |
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| jroll | \o | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko : one of the devstack patches was failing - I did not get an opportunity to test the updated version - | 16:07 |
| jroll | sorry I'm late | 16:07 |
| sambetts | o/ | 16:07 |
| Sukhdev | will test it later today | 16:07 |
| vsaienko | sukhdev: thank you | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | vsaienko : I saw your comments on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687 | 16:08 |
| Sukhdev | regarding local_link_connection being the list vs single port - | 16:09 |
| Sukhdev | I felt your understanding was incorrect, so, posted updated comments to explain it better - please have a look | 16:10 |
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| vsaienko | hm... _get_node_portmap method returns all nodes ports | 16:11 |
| vsaienko | please have look at line 54 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139687/41/ironic/networks/neutron_plugin.py | 16:11 |
| vsaienko | I thought that support of LAG/MLAG should be done with portgroups | 16:11 |
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| Sukhdev | correct | 16:12 |
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| Sukhdev | I was not paying attention to function _get_node_portmap - but, more to the need of single port vs. multiple ports in that list | 16:13 |
| Sukhdev | as long as we are on the same page that it is a list of port, we are good - | 16:14 |
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| Sukhdev | sorry my session crapped out - | 16:16 |
| devananda | where is default network state of the port determined? | 16:17 |
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| devananda | for instance, let's say that I want ports for nodes that are simply in "manageable" state to be on VLAN 6. How would I arrange that to happen? | 16:17 |
| sambetts | devananda: you'd have to move their neutron counterparts I'd expect | 16:18 |
| jroll | I believe you'd have to set up the provisioning network in neutron to use that vlan id | 16:19 |
| jroll | and the ml2 thing would do it | 16:19 |
| Sukhdev | correct - if I understand devananda's question correctly - here is how I see this happening | 16:19 |
| jroll | that make sense devananda ? | 16:19 |
| jroll | devananda: or are you saying, with no neutron ports attached, how that's determined? | 16:20 |
| Sukhdev | 1) the ports that connect to the switch which needs to be attached to vlan 6 (provisioing network) needs to be grouped into local_link_information | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | 2) the provisioning network ID needs to be set in /etc/ironic/ironic_config | 16:21 |
| Sukhdev | 3) create/update neutron port needs to be issued | 16:21 |
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| Sukhdev | that should do it - ML2 will take care of the rest | 16:22 |
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| devananda | tear_down() calls remove_provisoning_network() | 16:22 |
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| devananda | I'm not sure what network the node will be attached to after that | 16:22 |
| Sukhdev | devananda: is that what you were asking? | 16:22 |
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| jroll | right, so the question is with no ports attached | 16:22 |
| devananda | righ | 16:22 |
| devananda | right | 16:22 |
| jroll | devananda: so, that will depend on what config the ml2 mechanism lays down I guess | 16:23 |
| vsaienko | devananda, probably you have to use other network provider than neutron_plugin | 16:23 |
| devananda | vsaienko: can that be configured through neutron? | 16:23 |
| jroll | so really there's two options here: | 16:24 |
| jroll | 1) convince ml2 mech devs to put down a sane (configurable) config when no ports are attached | 16:24 |
| vsaienko | devananda: as it was mentioned by Sukhdev, ML2 will update VLAN on the switch port when you call update/create port in neutron | 16:24 |
| jroll | 2) don't remove provisioning net at tear down time, but rather keep it on the provisioning network all the time, except when it shouldn't be | 16:24 |
| jroll | (2) is what we do downstream today | 16:25 |
| jroll | and I feel like that isn't terrible | 16:25 |
| devananda | jroll: gotcha. I actually want it to be on a *different* network sometimes | 16:25 |
| vsaienko | I think that if you create port by hand with local_link_info ML2 should do the trick with VLAN | 16:25 |
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| devananda | but I agree that (2) isn't horrible | 16:25 |
| jroll | devananda: well, you'd have to configure that network in neutron and manually port-create/port-update, I think | 16:25 |
| vsaienko | jrol: right! | 16:26 |
| jroll | I think (2) is a good start, and we can work on a good solution for "I want to go to arbitrary network in manageable" | 16:26 |
| devananda | vsaienko: "create port by hand" -- how would I tell neutron to bind that port to these MACs, without involving Ironic? | 16:26 |
| jroll | devananda: use the same api calls as ironic does | 16:26 |
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| devananda | jroll: oh. of course :) | 16:27 |
| jroll | I am curious on the use case, but this seems like a valid case in general | 16:27 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : neutron allows you to create ports on any (valid) network | 16:27 |
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| Sukhdev | and then you can issue update port to bind it | 16:27 |
| devananda | jroll: enable network access from existing management systems on a static VLAN | 16:27 |
| vsaienko | devanada: if you add local_link_information neutron will update VLAN on the switch | 16:28 |
| vsaienko | http://paste.openstack.org/show/484169/ | 16:28 |
| devananda | jroll: but yea, I agree that (2) is a good start. sounds like this is easily doable downstream right now, and something we can work on next cycle | 16:28 |
| vsaienko | if I as user can create a neutron port and pass fake local_link_info it can break connectivity to HW nodes | 16:29 |
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| devananda | vsaienko: oooh. that's a really good point | 16:29 |
| jroll | devananda: yeah, here's an example of a thing we have to manually put something on the rescue network, for instance. parameters will be different from upstream stuff, but you get the idea: https://gist.github.com/jimrollenhagen/0b53c5e4f5f185a14594 | 16:30 |
| devananda | vsaienko: we want to allow end-users to define neutron subnets, but not affect the ports for these instances. yes? | 16:30 |
| sambetts | What happens when there are no ports attached is something I've been thinking about for introspection too, because with inspection we might not even have ports yet | 16:30 |
| devananda | jroll: cool | 16:30 |
| devananda | sambetts: indeed | 16:30 |
| devananda | sambetts: so telling neutron "by default, on switch S, put all switchports on provider net N" seems like a useful thing | 16:31 |
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| sambetts | thats the only solution we could think of | 16:32 |
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| sambetts | whether thats the provisioning vlan or a different one it | 16:33 |
| sambetts | as long as there is a known vlan | 16:33 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : you mean to say - issue neutron port-create to put these ports on net N, right? | 16:33 |
| sambetts | its more like, when I delete the final neutron port on a specific switch port I want it to fall back to a specific known VLAN | 16:34 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: not quite | 16:35 |
| vsaienko | sambetts: I think it should be done on ML2 side | 16:35 |
| devananda | sambetts: yes. also, if I don't yet know what is connected to some switchports, put that traffic on VLAN N | 16:35 |
| vsaienko | I mean, when neutron delete/unbind port, ML2 should move it to some default VLAN | 16:35 |
| sambetts | +1 | 16:36 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : neutron needs to be told explicitly as to which port should be connected to which network - | 16:36 |
| devananda | I also didn't mean to sidetrack the meeting too much onto a feature request -- I wasn't sure if this was possible today, and ya'll have confirmed that it isn't | 16:36 |
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| Sukhdev | devananda : just a final thought on this - it seems like a network flip on the reverse side (i.e. on tear down) | 16:39 |
| devananda | Sukhdev: yep | 16:39 |
| Sukhdev | devananda : We should simply drive it the same way from ironic side - | 16:39 |
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| sambetts | Sukhdev: for our case (inspection) that wouldn't be so successful because we might not have any port information on the ironic side | 16:41 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : Interesting!! so, how will neutron know which ports to act on? | 16:42 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: exactly, thats why it might need to be built into neutron to have a fall back to this vlan action, when all ports are unbound from a switch port | 16:42 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: I think we are assuming too much here - | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | when a port is unbound, it is not plumbed (to my understanding) - | 16:44 |
| Sukhdev | if port needs to be connected to any vlan (default or otherwise) it needs to be bound to a network | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | a network is a network - default or otherwise | 16:45 |
| Sukhdev | somebody needs to issue port create/updates to bind the ports correctly to desired network | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | and I think that responsibly lies on the ironic side | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | or someone has to do it manually (like operator) | 16:46 |
| Sukhdev | does it make sense? | 16:47 |
| Sukhdev | Wow!! I did not realize the time - we have only 13 min left | 16:47 |
| jroll | well, ml2 mechanisms could be written to by default put configs down to be on a configurable network | 16:48 |
| jroll | but yeah, time | 16:48 |
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| Sukhdev | I wanted to cover one item which we left off last metting | 16:49 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting quickly as a workaround for performance degradation | 16:49 | |
| Sukhdev | #topic: Discussion regarding Ironic inspector to set the switch-id, switch-info | 16:49 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts: you had brought up the issue in last meeting regarding the format of the switch-id | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | presently, the code expects switch-id to be of mac-address format | 16:50 |
| Sukhdev | otherwise the CLI returns error | 16:51 |
| sambetts | Yeah, so this was something that we (Cisco) have been discussing, because our ml2 driver uses the mgnt ip address of the switch to identify it, so limiting it to being just a mac address will lead us to ignore that field entirly | 16:51 |
| Sukhdev | yhvh: please chime in | 16:51 |
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| yhvh | I spent a lot of time enforcing the switch-id format to be either mac or datapath-id | 16:52 |
| sambetts | my understanding was that all the fields in local_link_information where going to be vendor specific because they are ml2 implemention specific | 16:52 |
| yhvh | by request, design and spec | 16:52 |
| Sukhdev | when we discussed this in Vancouver summit - folks wanted to use switch-info for management IP address not switch-id | 16:52 |
| sambetts | I don't remember these discussions (I was in all the sessions) :/ | 16:53 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : HP person (do not remember the name) walked through this scenario | 16:54 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts : It may be captured somewhere on the etherpad | 16:54 |
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| sambetts | its also not in the spec :( | 16:54 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts: lets make sure we address your concern | 16:55 |
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| Sukhdev | sambetts: so, you want to be able to identify the switch by IP, can it not be specified in switch-info field? | 16:55 |
| sambetts | Sukhdev: it could but then the switch_id field is wasted in our implementation | 16:56 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : what happens if you have two different switches (say 3K and 9K) and use different config commands for the same port-update command? | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | how do you tell it is 3K or 9K? and hence, which configs to push? | 16:57 |
| Sukhdev | sambetts : ofcourse, I am making up numbers to elaborate an example :-) | 16:57 |
| sambetts | we can use the switch_info field for that | 16:57 |
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| sambetts | either that or its pre-setup in our .ini file | 16:58 |
| Sukhdev | the idea is to automate as much as possible - | 16:58 |
| sambetts | how does making it a mac address help this? | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | my understanding is LLDP will provide the ID in mac-address format | 16:59 |
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| sambetts | we can get the mgnt IP from LLDP | 16:59 |
| Sukhdev | correct - mgmt IP can move from switch to switch - but, mac usually is tied to the chassis | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | the idea is switch-id is tied to the chassis - | 17:00 |
| sambetts | our ML2 implementation still identifys switchs by IP though so it doesn't make a difference | 17:00 |
| Sukhdev | hmm... sorry we are again out of time - | 17:01 |
| Sukhdev | I will keep it on the agenda and try to get it closed by next meeting :-):-) | 17:02 |
| sambetts | thanks | 17:02 |
| yhvh | ty | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | yhvh : in the mean time, can you think about it as well - | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks folks | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 18 17:02:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-01-18-16.01.html | 17:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-01-18-16.01.txt | 17:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_neutron/2016/ironic_neutron.2016-01-18-16.01.log.html | 17:02 |
| Sukhdev | Folks, this is time for L2 GW meeting | 17:03 |
| Sukhdev | who is here to attend L2GW meeting | 17:03 |
| [1]oferby | hi Sukhdev | 17:03 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : cool | 17:04 |
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| Sukhdev | lets get started - sorry - previous meeting went a bit over time | 17:04 |
| Sukhdev | #startmeeting: networking_l2gw | 17:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 18 17:04:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sukhdev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
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| Sukhdev | #topic: Agenda | 17:05 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/L2Gateway#Meeting_January_18.2C_2016 | 17:05 |
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| Sukhdev | oferby : So, I worked with armax to get the gate issue resolved | 17:06 |
| Sukhdev | now those issues are resolved and we can get the patches merged | 17:06 |
| Sukhdev | We were able to approve and merge several patches | 17:06 |
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| [1]oferby | cool. I finished the internal work and I'm also ready to merge | 17:07 |
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| Sukhdev | excellent | 17:07 |
| [1]oferby | there are 2 groups that are interested in the inter-cloud connection | 17:08 |
| Sukhdev | who are those? | 17:08 |
| [1]oferby | one is Midokura and the other is another group in Huawei | 17:08 |
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| [1]oferby | Irena from Midokura has added a bug (feature) on the new API | 17:08 |
| [1]oferby | did you see it? | 17:09 |
| Sukhdev | I bet there are more people as well - I was discussing this use case in one of the meetings and those people wanted it as well :-):-) | 17:09 |
| [1]oferby | :-) good to hear | 17:09 |
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| Sukhdev | what is the bug number | 17:10 |
| Sukhdev | our list is large | 17:10 |
| [1]oferby | I woulld like to start the work of official API proposal, although I completed the code for internal use ... is that OK by you? | 17:10 |
| [1]oferby | sec | 17:10 |
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| oferby | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-l2gw/+bug/1529863 | 17:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1529863 in networking-l2gw "[RFE] extend l2gw api to support multi-site connectivity" [Undecided,New] | 17:11 |
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| Sukhdev | #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-l2gw/+bug/1529863 | 17:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1529863 in networking-l2gw "[RFE] extend l2gw api to support multi-site connectivity" [Undecided,New] | 17:12 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : Thanks - I will review it and add remarks | 17:13 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : going back to your other comment - about official API proposal | 17:13 |
| Sukhdev | Yes, if you could write up something, that would help | 17:14 |
| oferby | sure, I will do that tomorrow. | 17:14 |
| Sukhdev | once you have it written it up, please let me know so that I can have the rest of team review it | 17:15 |
| oferby | sure. I also want to bring up the issue of seperating the API from the implementation | 17:15 |
| oferby | something similar to MLw | 17:15 |
| oferby | ML2 | 17:16 |
| oferby | this will work for other teams that are looking for the API but would like to have their own impl | 17:16 |
| oferby | what do you think? | 17:16 |
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| Sukhdev | maruti had started work on that - where folks can use the mail L2GW API and have their own back-ends | 17:17 |
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| Sukhdev | have you looked at that patch? | 17:17 |
| oferby | no. wasn't aware of it .... | 17:17 |
| oferby | can you send a link? | 17:17 |
| * Sukhdev looking | 17:18 | |
| Sukhdev | I think this is the one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206638/ | 17:19 |
| oferby | ok. I will check it out. | 17:20 |
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| Sukhdev | He wanted to make sure south bound framework is available so that vendors can have their own back-end implementations | 17:21 |
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| oferby | this is what we want. I will be happy to join the effort here too. | 17:22 |
| Sukhdev | review the patch and see if this helps | 17:23 |
| Sukhdev | this will give you a starting point at least | 17:23 |
| oferby | sure | 17:23 |
| Sukhdev | I met with armax last week and we discussed about the work you are doing - we are looking forward to it | 17:24 |
| Sukhdev | as soon as you have written it up, send it over | 17:24 |
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| oferby | I think I will be able to send out the patch tomorrow | 17:25 |
| oferby | if nothing will wait for me in the office .......... | 17:25 |
| Sukhdev | oferby : my suggestion will be to make sure it has sufficient documentation with it | 17:25 |
| Sukhdev | sometimes it is hard to figure out the design from the code - it is better done through documents | 17:26 |
| oferby | Irena from Midokura suggested that she will do the documantation | 17:26 |
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| oferby | she is in a business trip and will join the effort from next week. | 17:26 |
| Sukhdev | you may want to post the document along with the patch | 17:27 |
| Sukhdev | next week is fine - no worries | 17:27 |
| oferby | cool. | 17:27 |
| oferby | I have another issue. | 17:27 |
| Sukhdev | sure | 17:28 |
| oferby | I would like to put the HARDWARE VTEP schema file in our project instead of in OVS | 17:28 |
| Sukhdev | I am not sure if I understand | 17:29 |
| oferby | it is for the use of the L2GW anyway and I see no reason why we need to ask OVS people for permission to modify the schema whan we are the one to use it. | 17:29 |
| oferby | agree? | 17:29 |
| Sukhdev | Oh I see - | 17:29 |
| Sukhdev | Well, you mean you want to keep a snapshot of it locally - | 17:30 |
| Sukhdev | ultimately, it is owned and driven by the ovsdb | 17:30 |
| oferby | yes. also there is a small implemantation of hardware emulator which also need to be hosted in L2GW. | 17:31 |
| oferby | no other project is using the hardware vtep schema. it was built for the L2GW. it is just a schema, not the DB itself | 17:32 |
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| oferby | anyone can have their own schema and I see no reason why we should do cross-project work only to add one column in the db, as I did. | 17:33 |
| Sukhdev | You had a patch for the IDL support | 17:33 |
| oferby | the IDL is owned by OVS because other project are using it | 17:34 |
| oferby | no one other than L2GW is using the HARDWARE VTEP schema | 17:34 |
| Sukhdev | you mean in the opentack umbrella, right? | 17:35 |
| oferby | yes | 17:35 |
| Sukhdev | I know many others using HW VTEP schema :-):) | 17:35 |
| Sukhdev | correct | 17:35 |
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| oferby | you mean other projects, not L2GW? | 17:36 |
| Sukhdev | I think this should be alright | 17:36 |
| Sukhdev | I meant other vendors | 17:37 |
| Sukhdev | who use ovsdb | 17:37 |
| oferby | right ... still is it L2GW. | 17:37 |
| Sukhdev | I am not sure if OVN project uses it or not - but, they want to use L2GW API for it | 17:37 |
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| oferby | using the API does not mean you have to use OVSDB | 17:38 |
| Sukhdev | I mean they use API as well OVSDB | 17:38 |
| oferby | actually, Midokura wants the API but they use their own db | 17:38 |
| Sukhdev | OVN | 17:38 |
| oferby | in case others will want to use the API and teh DB, even better, we must own our db schema. | 17:39 |
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| Sukhdev | that is why it is so important to have this documented - so that it is easy to understand | 17:40 |
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| oferby | sure. | 17:40 |
| Sukhdev | once you post the document and patch, then we can further detailed discussion | 17:40 |
| oferby | we will doc all the changes. | 17:40 |
| oferby | sure. | 17:40 |
| Sukhdev | sounds good | 17:40 |
| Sukhdev | anything else? | 17:40 |
| oferby | nop. | 17:40 |
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| Sukhdev | cool - will look forward to a note from you. | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | Thanks for your time | 17:41 |
| oferby | thank you. | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | we will meet later | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 17:41 |
| oferby | bye. | 17:41 |
| Sukhdev | #endmeeting | 17:41 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting stable | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 18 21:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 21:00 |
| mriedem | anyone around? | 21:00 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | o/ | 21:00 |
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| rockyg | o/ | 21:00 |
| mriedem | alright, well, might as well get started | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam#Agenda | 21:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | Hi | 21:01 |
| mriedem | sigmavirus24: o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #topic status | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:01 | |
| jokke_ | o/ | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #link periodic job failures: http://goo.gl/5qiw2U | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | there isn't much on there, the neutron *aas stuff is a known issue that tonyb is working on | 21:02 |
| mriedem | err tonyb_stupidmac | 21:02 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | Yeah I need to push for reviews | 21:02 |
| mriedem | cinder had some random unit test failures in liberty on the periodic jobs, but it didn't look serious | 21:02 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | or ask ihrachys why we can't just hard code the fix in tox_install | 21:03 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: Yeah I looked at NFI at the moment. | 21:03 |
| mriedem | we can, we talked about that a few weeks ago | 21:03 |
| mriedem | it's just gorpy | 21:03 |
| ihrachys | tonyb_stupidmac: well... because we have a better fix up for review? | 21:03 |
| mriedem | b/c you have to do it in like 3 neutron projects and remember to always do it when they cut a new stable branch | 21:03 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: but we're hardcoding the branch *anyway* in the pip case | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245525/ is the review in question | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | so i guess just looking for infra reviews on that now | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #link openstack-health dashboard: http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_queue/periodic-stable | 21:05 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: yeah, my point is that http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron-lbaas/tree/tools/tox_install.sh?h=stable/liberty#n38 hard codes it anyway why not do somethign like http://paste.openstack.org/show/483833/ | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | yeah, idk, decent point | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | i guess that's what people would use locally right? | 21:06 |
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| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: Yeah I think so | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | that's more clear to me anyway, and it's managed within the repo, | 21:07 |
| mriedem | rather than in project-config | 21:07 |
| mriedem | let's move on | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #link etherpad of issues: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | the only newish thing in there is https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-gate/+bug/1534813 which came up last friday | 21:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1534813 in OpenStack-Gate "gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-*-liberty jobs are broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | right now that's only affecting non-voting jobs in oslo master branch changes | 21:08 |
| mriedem | i believe it's to test backward compat for oslo libs with stable/liberty | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | i did some digging on friday but it was really odd, and just started regressing but i couldn't figure out from what | 21:09 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: I think it's broken in stable not master | 21:09 |
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| jokke_ | so anyone looked into it, is the tests broken or did oslo break backwards compat? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | http://logs.openstack.org/95/267895/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-oslo.db-liberty/0c2f56e/logs/apache/keystone.txt.gz#_2016-01-15_12_05_55_056201 | 21:09 |
| mriedem | looks like oslo | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | when was oslo.config 3.1.0 released? | 21:10 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: I didn't run what-broke but keystone is barfing as it has 3.1.0 (from contstraints) but oslo.db [ on master] need >= 3.2.0 | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | 3.1.0 was awhile ago | 21:10 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: so I'm guessing it was a merge form g-r that cause it | 21:10 |
| mriedem | there were some keystone snafus on stable last week too.... | 21:11 |
| mriedem | also in the etherpad, i had asked stevemar to look into that break on friday but we deferred to monday to talk about it, because it was friday :) | 21:11 |
| mriedem | #action run what-broke for https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-gate/+bug/1534813 to see what was released around 1/14 (keystone or oslo) | 21:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1534813 in OpenStack-Gate "gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-*-liberty jobs are broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:12 |
| bknudson_ | there's python-keystoneclient 2.1.1 | 21:12 |
| bknudson_ | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-keystoneclient/2.1.1 | 21:12 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/2.1.1/requirements.txt#L12 | 21:13 |
| mriedem | anyway, we can debug that after the meeting, like i said, it's impacting non-voting jobs right now | 21:14 |
| mriedem | so not critical | 21:14 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | Cool. | 21:14 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | I wont be around long after the meeting | 21:14 |
| bknudson_ | ominous | 21:14 |
| mriedem | doesn't have to be you :) | 21:14 |
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| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: :) | 21:15 |
| mriedem | #topic action items from previous meeting | 21:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "action items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:15 | |
| mriedem | 1. mriedem to talk to ppl about co-gating and what that means for big tent and projects with branches and w/o, like ceilometer + gnocchi | 21:15 |
| mriedem | Nothing was changed in the docs. gordc/jd were going to look at installing gnocchi from pypi in the ceilometer devstack plugin which shouldallow upper-constraints to be enforced. | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | ^ was a thing that got somewhat hairy in #openstack-releases after the stable meeting last week, | 21:15 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | ooo /me makes a note to read the logs | 21:16 |
| mriedem | ceilometer on stable/liberty was installing gnocchi as a dependency which doesn't have a stable/liberty branch, so the gate tooling threw up in it's mouth a bit | 21:16 |
| mriedem | so, i think the plan is basically ceilometer needs to install gnocchi as a lib, from it's devstack plugin | 21:16 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: Yeah I mentioned that to gordc last year and he said it's fine that's what it's supposed to do | 21:16 |
| mriedem | and then upper-constraints can take care of the max version of gnocchi to use in the ceilometer stable/liberty integration job | 21:16 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: I didn't push on it | 21:16 |
| mriedem | 2. ttx to go through the stable release process with Daviey to doublecheck tooling | 21:17 |
| mriedem | i think that happened last week | 21:17 |
| mriedem | because Daviey has already started the kilo freeze | 21:17 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | Based on the -2's I'd say so :) | 21:17 |
| mriedem | yup | 21:17 |
| mriedem | 3. ttx to draft a stable:follows-policy tag definition for the team to discuss | 21:17 |
| mriedem | i haven't seen that happen yet | 21:17 |
| mriedem | 4. ttx to do the first stable release nagging round (done on 1/13) | 21:18 |
| mriedem | which brings me to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268709/ | 21:18 |
| mriedem | that's the nova 12.0.1 release request for stable/liberty | 21:18 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | \o/ | 21:18 |
| mriedem | i'm not aware of any of the other projects that ttx emailed as having put up something similar yet | 21:19 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to circle back on the list of projects that might need to do a stable/liberty point release | 21:19 |
| mriedem | that was it for action items from last week | 21:19 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: stable)" | 21:19 | |
| mriedem | i had one item, a call for tooling | 21:19 |
| jokke_ | I'll be checking what we have merged to glance and request release this week if so | 21:19 |
| mriedem | jokke_: thanks | 21:20 |
| mriedem | this was the list ttx had: Heat, Mistral, Nova, Sahara, Designate and Horizon | 21:20 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: no cinder? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | they've already done one | 21:20 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: let me know if you want a hand :) | 21:20 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: Oh | 21:20 |
| mriedem | those are projects that haven't done a release on stable/liberty since the GA | 21:20 |
| mriedem | neutron, cinder and i think glance have already done those, and probably some others | 21:21 |
| jokke_ | sigmavirus24: thanks ... should be straight forward just checking what we have merged since last tag :P | 21:21 |
| mriedem | http://docs.openstack.org/releases/releases/liberty.html | 21:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: I'm a helper ;) | 21:21 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | sigmavirus24: can you help me fix me mac? | 21:21 |
| sigmavirus24 | tonyb_stupidmac: do I look like a genius to you? | 21:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | :P | 21:22 |
| * rockyg snickers | 21:22 | |
| mriedem | tonyb_stupidmac: i'll tell you what i tell my mac-loving wife, | 21:22 |
| mriedem | mac's just work, duh | 21:22 |
| jokke_ | tonyb_stupidmac: simple, throw it away and buy a decent pc ;) | 21:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | tonyb_stupidmac: maybe, we'll chat after the meeting | 21:22 |
| mriedem | jokke_: +1 | 21:22 |
| sigmavirus24 | jokke_: with windows 11 right? | 21:22 |
| mriedem | ok, so back to tooling, | 21:22 |
| mriedem | i had 2 items - really just open-ended ideas | 21:22 |
| mriedem | 1. script to check for unreleased changes (oslo has something like this?) | 21:22 |
| mriedem | ^ would be helpful for what ttx was looking up last week | 21:23 |
| mriedem | i think dims_ said that oslo has a script somewhere like this | 21:23 |
| mriedem | but something to think about, should be simple | 21:23 |
| anteaya | mriedem: I bet you leave the duh off when talking to your wife | 21:23 |
| mriedem | anteaya: no ma'am | 21:23 |
| mriedem | i relish in her mac agony | 21:23 |
| anteaya | brave of you | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | 2. script to check for backport-potential bugs which are fixed on trunk but backports are not yet proposed | 21:24 |
| mriedem | ^ is a bit more complicated | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | but i think (2) would help with ttx's plan for a revised stable tag | 21:24 |
| mriedem | as in, tracking which projects are actually maintaining a healthy stable branch | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | and backporting high severity fixes | 21:24 |
| jokke_ | mriedem: the #1 is oneliner anyways so not sure where the script is needed | 21:25 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: I've done some scripting with launchpadlib so I can have a wach at #2 | 21:25 |
| jokke_ | #2 would be nice | 21:25 |
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| mriedem | jokke_: well, git log is easy, | 21:25 |
| mriedem | jokke_: but i was also thinking of tying that into LP bug severity, | 21:25 |
| mriedem | like it's one thing to have 10 minor bug fix backports unreleased, but if one of those is a cve fix and you haven't released it yet, it's a red flag | 21:26 |
| jokke_ | mriedem: tru | 21:26 |
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| tonyb_stupidmac | feature creep! | 21:26 |
| mriedem | tonyb_stupidmac: if you want to try starting something with (2) that's good | 21:26 |
| jokke_ | and if one wants to go to that route and start scripting that it would be nice to verify that the release notes are in place as well, just saying | 21:27 |
| mriedem | the gap in 2 is if it's keying off the liberty-backport-potential tag and people aren't putting that in the bugs to begin with | 21:27 |
| mriedem | so anyway, i figure we start small and build on it | 21:27 |
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| rockyg | I'd say a dash with all critical and above fixed bugs that could be reviewed weekly, like a triage | 21:27 |
| mriedem | i just wanted to bring these up as ideas of things for people to hack on | 21:28 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: yeah also people adding it where it isn't really potential ;P | 21:28 |
| mriedem | rockyg: yeah reports would be nice | 21:28 |
| rockyg | Mark the ones for backport when triaged | 21:28 |
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| bknudson_ | is there a repo for the tools? | 21:28 |
| mriedem | bknudson_: that was another question | 21:28 |
| rockyg | Dash should be pretty easy.... | 21:28 |
| mriedem | i don't have an answer off hand | 21:28 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | lets get the tools and go from there | 21:29 |
| bknudson_ | maybe figure out where dims_ / dhellmann are stashing theirs | 21:29 |
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| tonyb_stupidmac | if we make them abstract enough they could go into release.git | 21:29 |
| mriedem | bknudson_: yeah, that was going to be my suggestion too, ask the release team | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | we keep tools in openstack-infra/release-tools | 21:29 |
| mriedem | ahh, and there is the oslo script https://github.com/openstack-infra/release-tools/blob/master/list_oslo_unreleased_changes.sh | 21:30 |
| jokke_ | dhellmann: can we piggyback there at least to start with? ;) | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : yeah, that calls a more generic script you ought to be able to reuse for stable branches | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | jokke_ : probably, let's see what you have/need | 21:31 |
| mriedem | so we don't have to solve this here today, i just wanted to get people thinking about it | 21:32 |
| mriedem | for when you can't sleep at 3am | 21:32 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : somewhere near the middle of my todo stack is "write a script to show unreleased changes on stable branches", which you ought to be able to do by combining the python code that lists projects with the stable:managed tag with the bash code that lists unreleased changes | 21:33 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: that'll be you next week ;P | 21:33 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: yup, i was thinking the same | 21:33 |
| mriedem | dhellmann: i.e. getting hte list of projects based on the tag | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | mriedem : yeah, the parts are there, it's just a matter of assembling them | 21:33 |
| mriedem | tonyb_stupidmac: that was me last night | 21:33 |
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| mriedem | anyone want a specific action item on this? | 21:34 |
| mriedem | or should we just circle back on it next week? | 21:34 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: circle back | 21:34 |
| mriedem | k, sounds good | 21:34 |
| mriedem | that's all i had, anyone else have anything to discuss? | 21:34 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | mriedem: but next week's meeting is in the middle of the mid-cycle | 21:34 |
| bknudson_ | I'll be at the keystone meetup next week | 21:34 |
| mriedem | oh right....i didn't think about what time next weeks' meeting would be | 21:35 |
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| mriedem | i'll sort that out and if i can't run it then i'll look for somone else to run it | 21:35 |
| mriedem | or we skip a week | 21:35 |
| bknudson_ | shouldn't be too bad for gmt. | 21:35 |
| anteaya | actually I think it will be 9 or 10pm in the evening | 21:36 |
| anteaya | so in the middle of bar time | 21:36 |
| jokke_ | this is | 21:36 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | UTC 15:00 | 21:36 |
| jokke_ | next week is 1500 | 21:36 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:36 |
| mriedem | i have 3pm in london for that | 21:36 |
| anteaya | oh sorry | 21:37 |
| bknudson_ | so if you can't sleep at 3pm you'll have something to do | 21:37 |
| anteaya | the bi-weekly bit | 21:37 |
| mriedem | bknudson_: heh | 21:37 |
| tonyb_stupidmac | just depends how distracted we'll be with the in person stuff | 21:37 |
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| mriedem | yeah, it might just be worth skipping it | 21:38 |
| anteaya | I'm trying to focus on two things at once and doing a poor job of it | 21:38 |
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| mriedem | so let's assume we'll skip next week, there are 3 meetups happening | 21:38 |
| mriedem | if something comes up, ML and -stable irc per usual | 21:39 |
| rockyg | anteaya, yup, me, too. All my meetings seem to be double booked | 21:39 |
| mriedem | i'll send an email to the ML | 21:39 |
| anteaya | rockyg: yup | 21:39 |
| mriedem | alright, i think we're done | 21:39 |
| mriedem | thanks everyone | 21:39 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:39 |
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| rockyg | Thanks! | 21:39 |
| jokke_ | thnx | 21:39 |
| anteaya | thank you | 21:39 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 18 21:39:50 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-01-18-21.00.html | 21:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-01-18-21.00.txt | 21:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-01-18-21.00.log.html | 21:39 |
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