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| markvoelker | #startmeeting defcore | 15:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 15:02:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markvoelker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: defcore)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'defcore' | 15:02 |
| markvoelker | #chair zehicle eglute | 15:04 |
| eglute | thanks markvoelker | 15:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute markvoelker zehicle | 15:04 |
| markvoelker | #chair hogepodge | 15:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: eglute hogepodge markvoelker zehicle | 15:04 |
| markvoelker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreFlag.16 | 15:05 |
| markvoelker | #link https://join.me/587-954-630 | 15:05 |
| eglute | markvoelker is the joinme working for you | 15:05 |
| markvoelker | eglute: yes | 15:05 |
| markvoelker | Chris and Catherine and I are here | 15:05 |
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| eglute | ok, does not work just through the computer, will call in | 15:06 |
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| markvoelker | Roll call? | 15:06 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 15:06 |
| catherineD | o/ | 15:06 |
| eglute | o/ | 15:07 |
| gema | o/ | 15:07 |
| zehicle | o/ | 15:08 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 15:08 |
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| kbaikov | o/ | 15:08 |
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| zehicle | sorry :/ | 15:08 |
| eglute | zehicle start join me meeting? | 15:08 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223915/ nova patch | 15:08 |
| zehicle | yy - just getting there :( | 15:09 |
| zehicle | very sorry everyone | 15:09 |
| eglute | thanks! | 15:09 |
| markvoelker | #action +1 the nova patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223915/ so it can land soonish if no further objections | 15:11 |
| eglute | yay screen share is working! | 15:11 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210080/ Neutron patch | 15:11 |
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| kbaikov | is there an audio now? | 15:14 |
| zehicle | yy | 15:15 |
| eglute | i called via phone | 15:15 |
| zehicle | #link RackN creates software that automates scale IT data centers focusing on new container, data and cloud workloads. Since our solution works at every scale and with any hardware, we can provide a frictionless on-ramp for companies to come up to speed with devops and these new platforms without breaking their current environment. | 15:15 |
| zehicle | sorry, wrong clipboard! | 15:15 |
| zehicle | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreFlag.16 | 15:15 |
| zehicle | call in details here on that page | 15:15 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://github.com/markvoelker/defcore/commit/45356b9c080e128676ca078e16f313287df4531d RFC for changing scoring weights | 15:29 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://github.com/markvoelker/defcore/commit/a4665a9649f60cab40e17281cd818f7c3ff05644 RFC for changing client/tools definitions | 15:30 |
| markvoelker | Note for posterity: we feel like it's probably time to discuss those, so... | 15:30 |
| markvoelker | #action markvoelker to put scoring change patches into gerrit | 15:30 |
| markvoelker | #action markvoelker to amend patch to show how it would potentially impact existing scoring | 15:30 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221631/ Cinder patch | 15:33 |
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| markvoelker | #action hogepodge to clean up cinder patch | 15:41 |
| markvoelker | #action everyone to review the scoring in the cinder patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221631/ ) | 15:41 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213330/ Keystone patch | 15:42 |
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| markvoelker | #action hogepodge to revise keystone patch | 15:47 |
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| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213353/ Glance patch | 15:48 |
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| catherineD | Heat Capability for discussion https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X_KwiVh8eIcNbUr4qfcFhvmyNTN4nWKOFN-98QEwy7A/edit#gid=688628808 | 15:50 |
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| markvoelker | #action markvoelker recheck glance patch, hogepodge to rebase if necessary | 15:54 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216983/ heat patch | 15:54 |
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| markvoelker | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 16:01:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2015/defcore.2015-09-23-15.02.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2015/defcore.2015-09-23-15.02.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2015/defcore.2015-09-23-15.02.log.html | 16:01 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 16:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 16:30:51 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 16:30 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:30 | |
| pbourke_ | hi | 16:30 |
| rhallisey | hello | 16:31 |
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| jpeeler | hi | 16:31 |
| inc0 | good evening | 16:31 |
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| coolsvap | hello | 16:31 |
| akwasnie | hi | 16:31 |
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| sdake | should be a fast meeting o/ | 16:32 |
| sdake | #topic rc1 status | 16:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rc1 status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:32 | |
| sdake | rc1 releases this friday | 16:32 |
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| sdake | https://launchpad.net/kolla/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 16:32 |
| sdake | inc0 will the logging be done by then? | 16:33 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215062/ and following patches | 16:34 |
| inc0 | just few missing, will do tomorrow | 16:34 |
| inc0 | but I need reviews plz | 16:34 |
| sdake | inc0 cool once al lthe patches are in the review queue, plase set to needs review of the launchpad tracker | 16:34 |
| sdake | rhallisey ar eall the patches for json work in the queue? | 16:34 |
| rhallisey | ya | 16:34 |
| inc0 | I can do it now, no need for waiting for rest tbh | 16:34 |
| rhallisey | swift, horizon murano arn't fully workin in AIO | 16:35 |
| rhallisey | but that's because of me | 16:35 |
| sdake | ok well folsk if your pathes are in the queue, set to needs review please | 16:35 |
| rhallisey | kk | 16:35 |
| rhallisey | they all just need one more +2 | 16:35 |
| rhallisey | sam has +2'd them all | 16:35 |
| sdake | #topic open discussion | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 16:36 | |
| rhallisey | nothing | 16:36 |
| coolsvap | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-vagrant-discussion | 16:36 |
| inc0 | that's really short meeting;) | 16:36 |
| sdake | so got an intel 35000 pci-e ssd and it takes 10 minutes to build all of kolla ;-) | 16:37 |
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| rhallisey | sdake, oh really | 16:37 |
| pbourke_ | wow | 16:37 |
| rhallisey | wow | 16:37 |
| pbourke_ | :p | 16:37 |
| rhallisey | takes me like 3hours | 16:37 |
| inc0 | sdake, good choice | 16:37 |
| sdake | 380$ bucks | 16:37 |
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| sdake | i am also running btrfs on it | 16:37 |
| rhallisey | inc0, you work at intel, unfair enforcement :P | 16:37 |
| pbourke_ | i got a small request/suggestion for kolla reviews | 16:37 |
| rhallisey | inc0, I agree though :P | 16:38 |
| inc0 | see? It's not empty marketing | 16:38 |
| pbourke_ | given we do quite a bit of refactoring, it would be nice imo to not do a patchset per image | 16:38 |
| inc0 | it is marketing, just not empty;) | 16:38 |
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| pbourke_ | big reviews are the other extreme, but 10-20 reviews of essentially the same change is too much clicking | 16:38 |
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| sdake | i prefer separatepatches | 16:39 |
| sdake | that way when i get tired of reviewing a patch set i can sstep away | 16:39 |
| sdake | but the work i have done so far is not lost | 16:39 |
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| pbourke_ | both have pros/cons I guess | 16:39 |
| pbourke_ | its pretty minor | 16:39 |
| rhallisey | pbourke_, I know what you mean. I liked separate for the json stuff because there were a few exceptions | 16:39 |
| rhallisey | (keystone mariabd) | 16:39 |
| pbourke_ | I have two more things to disucss if someone else wants to go first :) | 16:39 |
| rhallisey | go ahead | 16:39 |
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| pbourke_ | has anyone else tried Sams ceph patch | 16:40 |
| rhallisey | no | 16:40 |
| coolsvap | no | 16:40 |
| inc0 | akwasnie, you got errors right? | 16:40 |
| rhallisey | I've only done an eyes only review thus far | 16:41 |
| pbourke_ | multinode seems to deploy for me but I dont know enough about ceph to smoke test it | 16:41 |
| pbourke_ | all in one has an ssh issue which Ive posted on the review so would be interested to know if anyone else gets this | 16:41 |
| sdake | sam usually takes wed-fri off (itz his weekend) | 16:41 |
| pbourke_ | I'll hassle people to review on his behalf :) | 16:41 |
| sdake | so i suggest you figure out how to smoke test sans tsam :) | 16:41 |
| akwasnie | inc0, yes i had, but not sure now which ones | 16:41 |
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| inc0_ | sorry computer died | 16:42 |
| pbourke_ | final thing for me then is to sort out the vagrant defaults | 16:42 |
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| sdake | pbourke you want which kind of defaults? | 16:43 |
| sdake | and whatare they today | 16:43 |
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| pbourke_ | sdake: tl;dr it was virtualbox but now defaults to libvirt | 16:43 |
| coolsvap | I think this is kind of stepping stone for the discussion when we have multiple providers | 16:44 |
| sdake | can it be changed with one config option? | 16:44 |
| pbourke_ | yes and no | 16:44 |
| coolsvap | we should consider having it in config | 16:44 |
| pbourke_ | in theory it can but there's other choices made in the vagrantfile that are dont gel well with both | 16:44 |
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| jpeeler | i think this is relevant https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-vagrant-discussion | 16:44 |
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| pbourke_ | my feeling on vagrant is that it's not a production setup, so it should work out of the box as easily as possible at the cost of some performance | 16:45 |
| Hui | in my ubuntu host, vagrant failed to create virbr0 | 16:45 |
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| pbourke_ | it seems some cores dont use vagrant at all but others such as myself its a daily driver | 16:46 |
| pbourke_ | so when it stops working I cant review | 16:46 |
| sdake | pbourke i think mandre's work was to bring that work to a wider audience so everyone could use it | 16:46 |
| sdake | but if he ended up blocking you that is no beuno | 16:46 |
| jpeeler | so are we talking about defaults or supporting both providers | 16:46 |
| sdake | both providers need to be impliemented | 16:47 |
| sdake | i was thiking it would b dsomething simple like a config option | 16:47 |
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| sdake | "libvirt" or "vbox" | 16:47 |
| jpeeler | because honestly who cares what the default is if they both work - i think the problem is that they don't both work currently | 16:47 |
| sdake | jpeeler ++ | 16:47 |
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| sdake | pbourke_ is the problem mor ethat the vbox got busted in the process of adding libvirt? | 16:47 |
| jpeeler | apparently the other image uses vbox extensions not in the default centos image | 16:48 |
| jpeeler | that etherpad captures the story i think | 16:48 |
| pbourke_ | sdake: correct | 16:49 |
| pbourke_ | let me check the etherpad | 16:49 |
| jpeeler | virtualbox is available for ubuntu and debian, but it's packaged in rpmfusion for fedora. so "out of box" differs based on platform | 16:49 |
| jpeeler | mandre has an outstanding patch to bring in alignment the network configuration | 16:50 |
| jpeeler | so that'll help | 16:50 |
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| pbourke_ | etherpad look to capture things fine | 16:51 |
| pbourke_ | we can construct a list of tasks from this | 16:51 |
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| coolsvap | pbourke_, that was the intention behind creating the etherpad | 16:51 |
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| coolsvap | i think we want vagrant to work at our end and lets do it for what we need | 16:52 |
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| sdake | ok so sound slike the resolution to this problem is to finish the job on vagrant | 16:53 |
| sdake | which isn't done yet | 16:53 |
| sdake | pbourke_ is that accurate? | 16:54 |
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| pbourke_ | sdake: yes that plus us officially deciding to support both in a better way | 16:54 |
| sdake | i think we have already made that decision just not executed on it | 16:55 |
| pbourke_ | sdake: before there was ambiguity I think on which would be most used | 16:55 |
| sdake | no there was no libvirt support previously | 16:55 |
| sdake | so it was unambiguolsy onl ybox :) | 16:55 |
| pbourke_ | sdake: right but the libvirt support crippled vbox | 16:55 |
| sdake | only vbox that is | 16:55 |
| pbourke_ | which was frustrating | 16:55 |
| pbourke_ | but whats done is done, we can focus on fixing | 16:56 |
| coolsvap | yes | 16:56 |
| sdake | ya there is two solutions revert mandre's patch set or fix mandres implmeentaiton | 16:56 |
| sdake | i'd prefer go forward with #2 | 16:56 |
| Hui | vbox has terrible performance which will affects the deployment time | 16:56 |
| pbourke_ | #2 is fine | 16:57 |
| coolsvap | i think we should have both separate implementations and a configuration option to use whichever you want | 16:57 |
| coolsvap | so that one does not conflict other | 16:57 |
| sdake | cool i'll send an email to the ml and ask mandre to sort out an implementaiton | 16:57 |
| sdake | soudn good/ | 16:57 |
| coolsvap | with changes | 16:57 |
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| jpeeler | coolsvap: there's a lot of overlap, they don't need to be completely separate | 16:58 |
| jpeeler | especially once the libvirt dhcp fix gets in | 16:58 |
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| jpeeler | pbourke_: do you install vagrant via the oracle addons repo? | 16:59 |
| coolsvap | jpeeler, i agree, i provided an option which we can always merge later | 16:59 |
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| pbourke_ | jpeeler: no I tend to get it from the official site for the latest version | 17:00 |
| jpeeler | was just curious | 17:00 |
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| jpeeler | that's probably enough vagrant talk | 17:01 |
| pbourke_ | agree | 17:01 |
| pbourke_ | :) | 17:01 |
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| sdake | anything else, or hsould I end the meeting? | 17:01 |
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| coolsvap | i think yes | 17:02 |
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| rhallisey | #endmeeting kolla | 17:18 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 17:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 17:18:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-09-23-16.30.html | 17:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-09-23-16.30.txt | 17:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-09-23-16.30.log.html | 17:18 |
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| Piet | Do the operators meet AT THIS TIME? | 18:00 |
| Piet | sorry...didn't mean to yell..hit caps by accident | 18:01 |
| Randy_Perryman | but how else will we hear you through all the noise.... | 18:01 |
| Randy_Perryman | :) | 18:01 |
| Randy_Perryman | I show that it does by my calendar. | 18:02 |
| Randy_Perryman | if I have done the tz right. | 18:02 |
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| j^2 | i thought was in 25 mins Piet | 18:35 |
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| Piet | Huh...on my calnder to start thirty minutes ago | 18:35 |
| j^2 | :-/ we’ll have to make that clear, it’s probably timezone converstions | 18:36 |
| j^2 | stupid EDT and EST etc | 18:36 |
| j^2 | It’s 1836 UTC right now though | 18:36 |
| j^2 | and 1437 EDT | 18:37 |
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| raginbajin | #startmeeting operators_ops_tools_monitoring | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 19:00:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is raginbajin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: operators_ops_tools_monitoring)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'operators_ops_tools_monitoring' | 19:00 |
| raginbajin | o/ | 19:00 |
| j^2 | o/ | 19:00 |
| raginbajin | We probably won't have a lot of people other than you and me.. I'm hoping for more. | 19:00 |
| j^2 | cool no worries | 19:01 |
| j^2 | i’m here to help :D | 19:01 |
| raginbajin | I did create a page off of the wiki to start putting the agenda's and what not like you mentioned. | 19:01 |
| raginbajin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operators_Tools_and_Monitoring | 19:01 |
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| raginbajin | Then it references agenda items in an etherpad that we had but I apparently forgot about. | 19:01 |
| j^2 | ah, so you don’t want to be part of the OSOps project? | 19:01 |
| raginbajin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monitoring-ops-tools-meeting-agenda | 19:01 |
| raginbajin | We can. | 19:01 |
| j^2 | It seem like we are attacking the same vector here | 19:02 |
| raginbajin | We are a link off of here - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations | 19:02 |
| j^2 | #link https://launchpad.net/osops | 19:02 |
| j^2 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Osops | 19:02 |
| raginbajin | I'm happy to move this, shut it down, convert it, do whatever is necessary to get some more involvment. | 19:02 |
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| raginbajin | Hmm. The Osops page almost seems like it would benefit from maybe turning into that Operations page. | 19:03 |
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| j^2 | nice, my goal is to get OSOps in the “big tent” around “N” or “O”s timeframe per the Operators meetus | 19:03 |
| j^2 | Then Operators get ATC and all that jazz which is the goal of OSOps | 19:04 |
| rockyg | ++ | 19:04 |
| j^2 | so it looks like we need to just come together | 19:04 |
| drwahl | o/ | 19:04 |
| raginbajin | ahh. yeah it does. I know in YVR basically this was just a session where people said we should talk about it more, and then no one volunteered, so I said I would do it. | 19:05 |
| j^2 | I’m willing to help however i can, i just want feedback from the group so i don’t go off and just make something no one’ll use | 19:05 |
| j^2 | raginbajin: that’s exactly what happened at Palo Alto | 19:05 |
| j^2 | so i did a table flip and said i’ll make the repos so i can say “look guys commit here you’ll get what y’all want" | 19:05 |
| raginbajin | I know many times we've all referenced the osops repo.. Yeah I couldn't make that one but posted a lot in the etherpad about this group and then the next session no one showed up | 19:05 |
| raginbajin | Cool | 19:06 |
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| j^2 | so yeah we need to *cough* this meeting *cough* get the stake holders together and just agree how to organize the ?3? groups into one | 19:06 |
| rockyg | Do we have a launchpad account for OSOps? | 19:06 |
| j^2 | rockyg: yep | 19:06 |
| j^2 | #link https://launchpad.net/osops | 19:07 |
| rockyg | Cool. Perhaps we should mine the etherpad for proposals and create BPs | 19:07 |
| j^2 | rockyg: great idea | 19:07 |
| j^2 | can you take the first stab at it? maybe make another etherpad to track it so we can check them off a list? | 19:07 |
| rockyg | Also, if there are already tools there, maybe we can get them listed in some catalog | 19:08 |
| j^2 | we have 3 repos now for osops | 19:08 |
| j^2 | one sec | 19:08 |
| rockyg | I wish I could do it, but I head up logging and my goal for Tokyo is to document the config options for logging | 19:08 |
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| j^2 | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/?q=osops | 19:08 |
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| raginbajin | I'm willing to start creating BP's but I have never done them before, so I think I need some guidance. | 19:09 |
| raginbajin | or something to reference. | 19:09 |
| j^2 | raginbajin: sounds good, i can link ours from Chef | 19:09 |
| rockyg | At a minimum, could we check the etherpads into our repository? Then as we turn ideas into BPs, we modify the etherpad to have the link | 19:09 |
| j^2 | raginbajin: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-chef/+spec/refactor-configuration-templates | 19:10 |
| raginbajin | thanks | 19:10 |
| j^2 | just something simple like that ^^ | 19:10 |
| rockyg | BPs are rather open form. You write up what you think should be done, put in a descriptive title and we now can track it | 19:10 |
| j^2 | we shouldn’t worry about specs or anything ATM, that might be worth something down the line, but not till later | 19:10 |
| raginbajin | Got it. Can they be updated once they are submited? | 19:10 |
| j^2 | yep | 19:10 |
| rockyg | And commented on. | 19:10 |
| rockyg | yup | 19:11 |
| j^2 | it seems like we should collapse the Wiki pages into one or something too | 19:11 |
| raginbajin | Ok, so I'll take the action to put a couple of BPs together by next meeting so we can review them and see if I am on the right track before I do a ton of them and they turn into a mess. | 19:11 |
| j^2 | but that requires more buy in like i mentioned above | 19:11 |
| j^2 | raginbajin: :rockon: | 19:11 |
| rockyg | \o/ | 19:12 |
| j^2 | there is also bugs/answers for OSOps too | 19:12 |
| j^2 | so as we get more commits to the repos we can track the bugs in it | 19:12 |
| raginbajin | #action raginbajin will create a few BPs before next meeting so the group can review that they are being created as expected. | 19:13 |
| rockyg | Once ther are a couple of bps in there, a notice should go to the ML about them and how to comment, add new ones, etc. | 19:13 |
| raginbajin | agreed. | 19:13 |
| rockyg | Maybe we review the ones we have next week and create the email | 19:13 |
| j^2 | rockyg: yeah a lot of this will take a while to get off the ground, but if we make it as painless as possible we should get better adoption | 19:13 |
| raginbajin | and at the Meetups we can just take a lot of what is being said and create BPs right there. | 19:13 |
| j^2 | raginbajin: exactly | 19:14 |
| j^2 | we create tangable goals per mid-cycle | 19:14 |
| rockyg | Also, if w use the bugs for Logging bugs, I'm willing to triage to the appropriate projects | 19:14 |
| j^2 | rockyg: perfect | 19:14 |
| drwahl | i'm feeling like a fly on the wall, but i am willing to assist where i can | 19:15 |
| rockyg | Maybe we can use this LP group for ops bugs when ops doesn't know the project and triage from here | 19:15 |
| drwahl | we (dreamcompute) have some resources we could dedicate to OSOPs efforts as well | 19:15 |
| rockyg | drwahl, Kewl! | 19:15 |
| j^2 | drwahl: nice! Any chance you can commit to any of the tooling repos? useful scripts etc? | 19:15 |
| drwahl | i'm working internally on that effort currently | 19:16 |
| drwahl | we have a blog post going up this week where i talk about how we are doing some of our public images and stuff | 19:16 |
| j^2 | hell there’s an ansible playbook in there to restart vms? or something like that. just something that we can show the community so we don’t have to reinvent the wheel over and over | 19:16 |
| drwahl | we need to get some of our chef stuff scrubbed before we could publish it publicly though | 19:16 |
| j^2 | drwahl: makes perfect sense | 19:16 |
| rockyg | I'll give a report on this stuff back to Prod_wg and maybe get them to provide triage for bugs plus extra review of BPs | 19:17 |
| raginbajin | Prod_wg? | 19:17 |
| rockyg | product working group | 19:17 |
| rockyg | They are cross project and trying to get user vertical needs incorporated into the projects | 19:17 |
| rockyg | and horizontal needs | 19:17 |
| raginbajin | Ahh ok. I haven't really step out of the Operators groups to realize what else is happening in most of the projects. So I'm really appreciating the help with all this. | 19:18 |
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| rockyg | who is the moderator for this meeting? If you could, could you do some #action s with what we have planned so far? #action is first on line. One action per line | 19:19 |
| j^2 | cool, this has already gotten us on the correct path, this is great | 19:19 |
| raginbajin | #action rockyg will give a report on what is happening here to the product working group to see if there is any support they could provide and report back to us. | 19:19 |
| rockyg | \o/ | 19:20 |
| raginbajin | I only captured those two actions, anything else that I am missing. | 19:20 |
| rockyg | action create bps from ethrpads | 19:20 |
| raginbajin | got that one | 19:20 |
| raginbajin | and then the prod_wg one | 19:20 |
| rockyg | cool | 19:20 |
| rockyg | submit bugs to this lp group if you don' | 19:21 |
| rockyg | t know which project they belong to | 19:21 |
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| rockyg | ^^ as an #action | 19:22 |
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| raginbajin | So do we want to do that after the BP's are reviewed in an email that we send to the listserv | 19:22 |
| raginbajin | oh ok | 19:22 |
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| rockyg | we need to come up with tags for stuff that Ops considers bugs that aren't project specific Such as logs, config, performance, etc | 19:23 |
| raginbajin | #action Start working with Operators to have them submit bugs to the OSOps project if they do not know which project they belong to, to help atleast capture the bug. | 19:23 |
| rockyg | To put on the bugs | 19:23 |
| raginbajin | #action Work on creating tags that Operators consider at bugs that are not project specific. Examples: logs, config, performance, etc | 19:24 |
| j^2 | +1 | 19:24 |
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| rockyg | Do we have an agenda for this meeting or is this just brainstorming? | 19:25 |
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| raginbajin | For the last 3 meetings, its been me only at the meetings | 19:25 |
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| rockyg | Ah. I just found out about it this week, which is why I jumped in. | 19:26 |
| raginbajin | So there wasn't an agenda setup. The only thing was j^2 work he did to bring osops into the mix which jump started everything | 19:26 |
| j^2 | :D | 19:26 |
| raginbajin | So, i think we have a few good things to get working on. | 19:26 |
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| j^2 | getting Action Items and tangible goals out of an IRC meeting is always a win | 19:27 |
| rockyg | Lemme introduce myself. Rocky Grober. I am an architect with Huawei. My background is everything other than code that makes a product | 19:27 |
| j^2 | rockyg: you and i have had a few beers together ;) <— JJ from Chef | 19:27 |
| rockyg | So, I'm a QA, Ops, Enduser champion | 19:27 |
| drwahl | we doing intros? My name is David Wahlstrom. I am the "Cloud System Engineer" at DreamHost (working on DreamCompute). I spend most of my days in either jenkins, chef, or python code | 19:28 |
| rockyg | Ah, yes. My e key is sticking there might be missing e's in my typing. | 19:28 |
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| * j^2 waves to drwahl :D | 19:28 | |
| raginbajin | I'm Joseph Bajin. I lead everything Virtualization and Cloud at Verisign. My background has been in Operations and System Engineering. | 19:28 |
| drwahl | j^2: i have a buddy who is (was?) working at OpsCode. do you know Yvo? | 19:28 |
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| j^2 | drwahl: yep he’s in NL now. | 19:29 |
| drwahl | indeed he is | 19:29 |
| j^2 | he interviewed me too :D | 19:29 |
| drwahl | i worked with him for a while at Classmates.com | 19:29 |
| j^2 | nice | 19:29 |
| rockyg | Doesn't Opscode also do Sonar? | 19:29 |
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| j^2 | we aren’t Opscode any more, we are Chef btw ;) | 19:29 |
| j^2 | Sonar in what context rockyg ? | 19:30 |
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| rockyg | Forgive me I didn't see that patch merge ;-) SonarQube | 19:30 |
| j^2 | never seen it sorry :( | 19:31 |
| j^2 | yeah i haven’t heard anything about it either | 19:31 |
| rockyg | http://www.sonarqube.org/ | 19:32 |
| j^2 | yep, nope, never seen in the context of chef | 19:32 |
| rockyg | Really good stuff that I would love infra to get up on the site. I think I'm confusing Opscode with ... | 19:32 |
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| rockyg | I think they used to have code in the company name, but now it's SonarSource | 19:33 |
| j^2 | raginbajin: next topic? :D | 19:34 |
| raginbajin | That's it. | 19:34 |
| rockyg | Yes please | 19:34 |
| raginbajin | don't have another one. | 19:34 |
| j^2 | ha! | 19:34 |
| j^2 | then that’s a great meeting :D | 19:34 |
| rockyg | more tags for bugs? | 19:34 |
| rockyg | Then ownr of lp group could gt thm in | 19:34 |
| raginbajin | I added that action item. | 19:34 |
| rockyg | Or could just make th initial list.... | 19:35 |
| rockyg | All the ilities are good | 19:35 |
| raginbajin | So I added this as an action, but didn't have anyone associated to it : Work on creating tags that Operators consider at bugs that are not project specific. Examples: logs, config, performance, etc | 19:36 |
| raginbajin | Not sure how we want to do that or if someone wants to take that. | 19:36 |
| raginbajin | I dont' think I can do any of that in the project. | 19:36 |
| rockyg | Just brainstorm the list here. | 19:36 |
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| j^2 | Yeah it might be a tad bit early to tag bugs for upstream. We only have a small repenitation here; and we need to get more bodies before we can start looking to the larger community | 19:37 |
| rockyg | True. | 19:37 |
| rockyg | But I'm thinking tag bus in *our* launchpad group. Not upstream.... | 19:38 |
| j^2 | and the first step is to get operators to commit and show that we want to make things happen, like drwahl :D | 19:38 |
| rockyg | Also true. | 19:38 |
| j^2 | rockyg: tbh, anything that isn’t in the “operators” immediate circle is upstream ;) | 19:38 |
| j^2 | so we’re on community building and selling ATM. right raginbajin ? | 19:39 |
| j^2 | then we can look at cross compatibility | 19:39 |
| rockyg | Sounds like. | 19:39 |
| raginbajin | Definitely.. | 19:39 |
| rockyg | Excellent. | 19:39 |
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| raginbajin | We need to get operators submitting work to help us start figuring out how to split it up. | 19:39 |
| j^2 | btw, we have some cores on OSOps, i’m going to send out a note to all of them saying this is our meeting time now too. Show up or I’ll bring the hammer down :D | 19:40 |
| rockyg | Good. | 19:40 |
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| j^2 | raginbajin: exactly. But first we need submissions then w can figure out what bucket we can put them in | 19:40 |
| j^2 | can you give me that #action raginbajin ? | 19:40 |
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| j^2 | the note about the cores | 19:40 |
| rockyg | FYI There are two ops groups for OpenStack out there..... | 19:41 |
| raginbajin | #action J^2 will communicate with cores that are working within the Operators group to inform them of this meeting time and invite them to join the discussion | 19:41 |
| rockyg | https://launchpad.net/~osops | 19:41 |
| j^2 | crap | 19:42 |
| j^2 | did i remake this? | 19:42 |
| rockyg | and https://launchpad.net/osops | 19:42 |
| j^2 | https://launchpad.net/osops | 19:42 |
| raginbajin | the one with ~ is super old | 19:42 |
| rockyg | Actually, this is good. One is a team and one is a project. | 19:42 |
| rockyg | Team is ~osops | 19:42 |
| raginbajin | I didn't even know that existed. | 19:43 |
| j^2 | per the docs: https://launchpad.net/~osops-drivers | 19:43 |
| j^2 | that’s what the “team” is supposed to be | 19:43 |
| j^2 | which i can add anyone that wants to be in it | 19:43 |
| j^2 | raginbajin: email/userid? | 19:43 |
| drwahl | j^2: what is it i'm supposed to be commit (to)? the chef stuff we were talking about earlier? | 19:43 |
| raginbajin | josephbajin@gmail.com/josephbajin | 19:43 |
| j^2 | drwahl: anything and everything you’re willing to help out with the osops repos | 19:44 |
| * drwahl makes a note to pull down osops repos... | 19:44 | |
| j^2 | raginbajin: done | 19:44 |
| j^2 | drwahl: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/?q=osops | 19:44 |
| rockyg | osops, no ~ is the project. BPs go there | 19:44 |
| j^2 | yep | 19:45 |
| rockyg | Adn the git repository was supplied by j^2 | 19:45 |
| j^2 | rockyg: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/osops | 19:45 |
| rockyg | Thnk you | 19:45 |
| j^2 | just to finish it off: | 19:45 |
| j^2 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/osops | 19:45 |
| j^2 | #link https://answers.launchpad.net/osops | 19:46 |
| rockyg | Beautiful! | 19:46 |
| j^2 | <— read the docs :P | 19:46 |
| drwahl | ah, i have some useful (for us) tools to add to some of these repos | 19:46 |
| drwahl | i'll get some stuff up for review soon | 19:46 |
| j^2 | drwahl: perfect | 19:46 |
| j^2 | just a start is all we’re asking for | 19:46 |
| rockyg | Also, you'r all welcome to stay for the next meeting ... log work group | 19:46 |
| j^2 | and there is no tests or anything, but eventually i think we should at least think of something; but that’s like 2nd Generation stuff, we’re way to early in thinking on this | 19:47 |
| rockyg | Same room;-) | 19:47 |
| raginbajin | rockyg: Please just standardize them so I can use a simple logstash filter. That's all I ask | 19:47 |
| drwahl | ^^ that | 19:47 |
| rockyg | j^2, the tailgaters group may be able to help with the tsts, too | 19:47 |
| j^2 | hell sharing the log stash filter in the osops-loggint-tools is like PERFECT candidate. | 19:47 |
| drwahl | ^^ that too | 19:48 |
| raginbajin | I think that's a great idea... I'll look at submitting some of those. | 19:48 |
| rockyg | We're trying, but.... we need to get more specific info on standards. We're trying to use oslo.log as a bludgeon... | 19:48 |
| j^2 | #link https://github.com/openstack/osops-tools-logging | 19:48 |
| drwahl | we started down the logstash road, but gave up after the multi-line traces messed us up | 19:48 |
| rockyg | Yessiree | 19:48 |
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| rockyg | multi-line traces out of the log! that's a good start. Unless of course, you have TRACE turned on. | 19:49 |
| raginbajin | So, it sounds like we can wrap up today's meeting. We got a lot of good things to start working on. | 19:49 |
| rockyg | Good bug to file. I need to know which project to bludgeon. | 19:49 |
| raginbajin | We have actions for 2 weeks from now and I'll have the agenda up on the etherpad as well. | 19:49 |
| rockyg | Excellent | 19:50 |
| raginbajin | Anything else? | 19:50 |
| rockyg | And I have 10min to prep for the next meeting | 19:50 |
| j^2 | raginbajin: i can’t stress enough about that format for the name of the etherpad for the agenda | 19:50 |
| j^2 | it’s nice to only have to change the date; then you can track how things change over time on new files | 19:51 |
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| raginbajin | ok. Let me change it around to something that works better, and I'll update the wiki site with it | 19:52 |
| j^2 | cool, i propose a motion to close this meeting early, i think we made progress :) | 19:52 |
| rockyg | Yes. Same goes for the meeting name. Always the same. No dates or geis | 19:52 |
| rockyg | Agreed. | 19:52 |
| j^2 | raginbajin: don’t hesitate to PM me if you need help/question/a sounding board, i’m almost always around | 19:52 |
| raginbajin | Thanks j^2. Thanks to rockyg and drwahl as well. | 19:53 |
| raginbajin | #endmeeting | 19:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:53 | |
| j^2 | o7 | 19:53 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 19:53:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2015/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2015-09-23-19.00.html | 19:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2015/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2015-09-23-19.00.txt | 19:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/operators_ops_tools_monitoring/2015/operators_ops_tools_monitoring.2015-09-23-19.00.log.html | 19:53 |
| rockyg | Thanks evrybody! | 19:53 |
| drwahl | thanks yall! | 19:53 |
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| rockyg | #startmeeting log_wg | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 20:01:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rockyg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: log_wg)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'log_wg' | 20:01 |
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| rockyg | ping jokke_ bknudson | 20:02 |
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| bknudson | rockyg: what's up? | 20:02 |
| rockyg | And I know I'm forgetting someone. Logg meeting | 20:02 |
| bknudson | dhellmann maybe? | 20:03 |
| rockyg | He's got a conflict. He reads the logs, though. That's another reason to move the meeting | 20:03 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 20:04 |
| rockyg | Hey! I think we can start. | 20:04 |
| rockyg | #topic updates | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: log_wg)" | 20:04 | |
| jokke_ | sorry for being bit late ... last glance things flying in for rc1 | 20:04 |
| bknudson | all the logging fixes are getting done | 20:05 |
| rockyg | Kewl. And glance is gonna be great by the time mitaka finishes.... | 20:05 |
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| bknudson | ouch! | 20:05 |
| rockyg | So, updates....Just got out of Ops monitoring meeting | 20:05 |
| jokke_ | rockyg: lets see about that, we do our best | 20:05 |
| rockyg | jokke_,I think the community has finally woken up about the need for cross project comms, awareness, help, etc. | 20:06 |
| jokke_ | so to the topic, what's ops monitoring meeting? | 20:07 |
| rockyg | There is a new OpenStack repository: osops | 20:07 |
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| rockyg | A lot of the discussion was just getting things rolling, but, we have a place for ops bps now, and bugs that ops doesnt know which project to file under, and ops tools | 20:08 |
| rockyg | for instance: | 20:09 |
| rockyg | [12:03] *** now talking in #openstack-meeting-4 | 20:09 |
| rockyg | [12:03] *** topic is (Meeting topic: operators_ops_tools_monitoring) | 20:09 |
| rockyg | [12:03] *** set by openstack!~openstack@openstack/openstack on Wed Sep 23 11:59:36 2015 | 20:09 |
| rockyg | [12:03] *** channel #openstack-meeting-4 mode is +cnt | 20:09 |
| rockyg | [12:03] *** channel created at Sun Nov 02 04:52:54 2014 | 20:09 |
| rockyg | [12:03] <j^2> nice, my goal is to get OSOps in the “big tent” around “N” or “O”s timeframe per the Operators meetus | 20:09 |
| rockyg | [12:04] <j^2> Then Operators get ATC and all that jazz which is the goal of OSOps | 20:09 |
| rockyg | [12:04] <rockyg> ++ | 20:09 |
| rockyg | [12:04] <j^2> so it looks like we need to just come together | 20:09 |
| Behzad_ | This is my first time attending the meeting. | 20:09 |
| rockyg | sorry for that spam. | 20:09 |
| rockyg | Welcome Behzad_! | 20:09 |
| Behzad_ | Thanks | 20:09 |
| rockyg | my copy paste doesnt work so good... | 20:10 |
| rockyg | https://github.com/openstack/osops-tools-logging | 20:10 |
| Behzad_ | I really liked that on ops tools have a place in the main openstack umbrelly | 20:10 |
| Behzad_ | umbrella | 20:10 |
| rockyg | Yes. I think it will make our life easier on Logging, too. | 20:10 |
| Behzad_ | What will be our guidelines for commiting changes to the osops-<> repo | 20:11 |
| rockyg | The big ask was consistency on messages so things can get scripted | 20:11 |
| rockyg | And to get multi-line traces out of the logs | 20:11 |
| rockyg | But, converting etherpad info to BPs is a big win for tracking and discovery of ops issues and definition of tools and tool improvements | 20:12 |
| jokke_ | rockyg: the later will not happen before we get to the stage where _all_ projects can be ran in production without debugging | 20:13 |
| rockyg | Anyway, that's the monitoring meeting | 20:13 |
| rockyg | also, the requst-id spec got accepted | 20:13 |
| jokke_ | rockyg: the traces should be printed (on all projects using oslo_log at least) only when debug is enabled | 20:13 |
| jokke_ | yes it did | 20:14 |
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| rockyg | jokke_, ther is now also a TRACE level (I think) or it's proposed, that is above debug. Or is it below? I can never keep those straight | 20:14 |
| rockyg | but whatever, you need to turn that debug won't provide TRACE if the patch gets in | 20:15 |
| rockyg | man, I'm having problems typing today | 20:15 |
| jokke_ | that is just pointless :( | 20:15 |
| jokke_ | I think I might have overlooked that | 20:16 |
| rockyg | Well, we need to get debug turnd off....maybe w focus on the worst tracee offenders first? | 20:16 |
| rockyg | oh, my e key is not working great. you will see dropouts | 20:17 |
| Behzad_ | what is the request-id spec? | 20:17 |
| bknudson | keystone has request IDs in the logs now so if we can get the request ID out to the users then they can make the correlation | 20:17 |
| Behzad_ | can you send a link. | 20:17 |
| rockyg | Lessee, more...cross project communications and coordination. One of the themes for Mitaka | 20:17 |
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| rockyg | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/return-request-id.html | 20:19 |
| rockyg | I want to work with these guys on a spec on how to put them in the log messages | 20:20 |
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| rockyg | Also up is that the devs are now aware of the Product working group and want to use them for cross project communications | 20:21 |
| Behzad_ | thanks rockyg. | 20:21 |
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| rockyg | Any other updates? I think I want our dev working session at Tokyo to focus on getting Error codes spec acceptable. | 20:22 |
| jokke_ | rockyg: they should be logged if a) context and b) oslo_log is used | 20:22 |
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| rockyg | What do you think? One hour face to face with projects and ops to make it happen? | 20:22 |
| jokke_ | I would love that | 20:22 |
| rockyg | I think we can convince devs that unique, memorable numbers can be used if we use interns, Prod_wg resources to roll them into the codebase and that they are - or a real error code | 20:24 |
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| bknudson | what's a unique memorable number? other than 3.14. | 20:24 |
| bknudson | and 42 is an easy one to remember | 20:25 |
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| rockyg | So, spec has nnn-mmm-xxxx with proj, module and number. Some folks think thre are too many places where oslo.log is called to modify manually | 20:26 |
| rockyg | oops. only 2 m's | 20:26 |
| bknudson | does this include debug logs? | 20:26 |
| rockyg | Right now, only for ERROR | 20:27 |
| bknudson | maybe you could leverage the translation files | 20:27 |
| bknudson | since that has all the log messages, so if you could associate the # with the log message in the translation file that would get you a number | 20:27 |
| jokke_ | well everything ERROR+ | 20:27 |
| jokke_ | at least | 20:27 |
| jokke_ | preferably WARNING+ | 20:27 |
| bknudson | I don't know if the message file format allows attaching extra metadata, but I think it does. | 20:28 |
| rockyg | Yup. Error code + summary Summary can be translated, and will cue translators | 20:28 |
| rockyg | jokke_, ++ | 20:28 |
| rockyg | But I'm willing to start with ERROR ;-) | 20:28 |
| bknudson | if it's easy to add then no need to limit to error, just anything translatable | 20:28 |
| jokke_ | rockyg: I can be twisted to that, but IMHO it is way easier to do and allocate if it's done right at the first time ;) | 20:29 |
| rockyg | I figure a grep of a project for oslo.log and we'll have the lists | 20:29 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: ++ | 20:29 |
| bknudson | we had a guy here work on a tool to generate message ids like this so we could use it in our product | 20:30 |
| rockyg | jokke_, true. If wee get the codes defined, we can convince the devs of warning and up. Especially if we can get numbers of times the log fun ction is called in a project and show manual mods are doable | 20:30 |
| rockyg | bknudson, so, just once and insert into code or at run time? | 20:31 |
| bknudson | I don't think manual is going to be doable | 20:31 |
| rockyg | bknudson, hah! you don't know th powr of intrns and high schoolers. | 20:31 |
| rockyg | I met 7 high schoolers at OSCon who were OS committers | 20:32 |
| bknudson | I'm not sure how it works, but it uses the translation string to generate the message ID, or the message ID can be set manually in the po file | 20:32 |
| rockyg | Once you get them started, they won't stop until a project is complete. Can you say OCD? | 20:32 |
| bknudson | I don't know how it works when the message ID is in the po file... it must be handled by the translation library where it returns the string with the message ID on it. | 20:33 |
| bknudson | interns and high-schoolers are also going to review all these changes? | 20:33 |
| bknudson | probably not if they're not core reviewers | 20:34 |
| jokke_ | bknudson: I think the translation files are exelent idea to pull the error messages and generate the codes | 20:34 |
| rockyg | Yeah. What we really need is a localization/translation person to describe how log translations are done in the commercial world | 20:34 |
| rockyg | OS devs don't generally seem aware that this is a solved problem | 20:35 |
| jokke_ | :) | 20:35 |
| rockyg | OK. We are going to get Error Codes spec done at Tokyo. | 20:36 |
| jokke_ | I have no idea how those tools work either ... I just wrap the messages, some voodoo happens and those who wishes has their messages on some weird languages I cannot support ;) | 20:36 |
| rockyg | #action Get cross project work session to get Error Codes spec into completable condition | 20:36 |
| rockyg | jokke_, that's why a EC dictionary is really helpful. YOu know what it was translated from;-) | 20:37 |
| rockyg | ok. any other topics to discuss? | 20:38 |
| jokke_ | was the doc sprint already? | 20:39 |
| rockyg | Oslo docs sprint is tomorrow and Friday. I want to get the log configs documented | 20:39 |
| rockyg | #topic oslo docs sprint | 20:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "oslo docs sprint (Meeting topic: log_wg)" | 20:39 | |
| jokke_ | ok, cool so it's now | 20:39 |
| jokke_ | so there is reviews coming to our direction? | 20:40 |
| rockyg | Yup. Wanna help? We could do it on google docs or etherpad if there are multiple people | 20:40 |
| jokke_ | you'll be on irc? | 20:40 |
| rockyg | There will be reviews if we get the docs written. And, yes, I'll be on IRC and google... | 20:40 |
| rockyg | The coordination is from IRC I believe. | 20:41 |
| jokke_ | if so I'll let you know how my time permits, but if there is reviews coming, those I promise to look through | 20:41 |
| bknudson | I'll be participating in the sprint as much as I can. | 20:41 |
| jokke_ | cool ... I'll ping you tomorrow and/or Friday if it looks like I can help | 20:41 |
| bknudson | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074719.html | 20:42 |
| rockyg | Excellent. I think the first thing to do is to just cut and paste the config code into a doc or etherpad | 20:42 |
| rockyg | In preparation for the sprint | 20:42 |
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| jokke_ | gimme a sec I'll have a look if I have the repo cloned | 20:43 |
| rockyg | Then we add documentation around and remove the code bits that don't need documentation | 20:43 |
| jokke_ | hmm-m no genconfig made for oslo.log | 20:44 |
| rockyg | I'll see if I can put together an etherpad with links to pertinent places. | 20:44 |
| jokke_ | will have a look if it would be easy to do ... that would help pulling the current info out of the code | 20:44 |
| rockyg | bknudson, posted the lines for log config in a meeting eithr last week or before | 20:45 |
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| rockyg | let's get the etherpad up now so folks can add to it. | 20:45 |
| jokke_ | I just generated configs for glance via tox -egenconfig which effectively pulls all config options, their help texts etc. into text file | 20:46 |
| rockyg | oslo-log-config-doc? | 20:46 |
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| jokke_ | sounds good to me | 20:46 |
| rockyg | If so, I'll create and jokke_ cn dump | 20:46 |
| jokke_ | I'll see if I can get it easily working | 20:46 |
| jokke_ | would prevent tons of manual work | 20:46 |
| rockyg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oslo-log-conf-doc | 20:47 |
| rockyg | I'll also put the request-id link in | 20:48 |
| jokke_ | good stuff | 20:50 |
| jokke_ | anything else? | 20:50 |
| rockyg | Started. I'll also add the dev ref pages in for reference. That way if others get into the sprint before I do, they can start without me ;-) 7am is too eearly and I'll likely be up until 2 or 3 tonight | 20:50 |
| rockyg | I think that's it from my side. | 20:51 |
| rockyg | Behzad_, wanna help with the doc sprint? If so, just turn up! | 20:51 |
| jokke_ | I don't have anything else either | 20:51 |
| Behzad_ | Thanks, will do | 20:51 |
| rockyg | OK Thanks everybody! | 20:52 |
| rockyg | #endmeeting | 20:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:52 | |
| jokke_ | thanks! | 20:52 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 20:52:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-09-23-20.01.html | 20:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-09-23-20.01.txt | 20:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/log_wg/2015/log_wg.2015-09-23-20.01.log.html | 20:52 |
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