Wednesday, 2015-01-14

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krtaylor#startmeeting third-party04:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 14 04:00:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'third_party'04:00
krtayloranyone here for third-party ci working group?04:00
patrickeasthey04:00
patrickeastfinally remembered to update my calander reminders for the new meeting times :D04:01
krtaylorhi patrickeast04:01
krtaylorI see asselin_ and mmedvede joined the channel earlier, maybe they are lurking04:02
asselin_hi04:02
krtaylorhi asselin_04:02
krtaylorlooks like sweston is in channel also04:02
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krtaylorwell, not a huge agenda today, so that will give us time to discuss04:03
krtaylor#topic Active work04:03
krtaylorso, first up is third-party documentation refresh04:04
krtaylorthere is now 2 patches04:04
asselin_I will update my query to include the new topic04:05
krtaylorI pushed a Overview section refresh04:05
krtaylorhere is the etherpad04:05
krtaylor#link  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/third-party-ci-documentation04:05
krtayloryes asselin_ that would be great04:05
krtaylorI added that to the etherpad today04:06
krtaylorI figured that would be a good thing to have the topics set04:06
asselin_yes, much easier to find and review as a group ++04:06
krtaylorI am still not sure what the best way to handle that is, we may need to queue up a few patches and then get on infra agenda04:07
krtayloror maybe schedule a mini-sprint, but I hate to wait until Feb to land some of the changes04:07
krtaylorbut we would need infra at the sprint04:08
asselin_I think a mini-sprint is a good idea04:08
asselin_infra had good results in their doc sprint04:08
asselin_doc --> infra manual04:09
krtaylorand it sounded like everybody was busy until Feb, we barely got the split one scheduled04:09
krtayloryes, that was a huge success04:09
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asselin_I think it would be good to start scheduling the next one, especially if it's a few weeks out.04:10
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krtayloryeah, I guess it would have to be the first week of Feb, 3 weeks out04:10
asselin_But maybe we can do it sooner. We just need to get 2 cores to support approvals04:10
asselin_I'm out the 1st week of Feb :/04:11
krtaylorouch04:11
krtaylorok, well we need to do it sooner then04:11
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krtaylorI'll send email to discuss and see if we can get infra core interest04:11
asselin_last week of Jan is the cinder midcycle meetup04:13
krtaylor#action krtaylor to rally infra core and third-party with via email around third-party documentation mini-sprint04:13
krtayloryeah, that was the problem04:13
asselin_We should try to do something this week or next.04:13
krtaylornext Wed is our early meeting, we could start a sprint then04:14
krtaylorI have one section fairly done, and requirements well underway04:14
krtaylorbut there is a lot of detail in the later sections04:14
krtaylorwe need to decide what to document and then do it04:15
asselin_that's what's nice about the sprint...forces your to allocate some time.04:16
asselin_next wed & thursday are good04:16
krtayloryes, thanks for signing up to help, I bet I can get mmedvede to help too04:16
asselin_we can do 48 hour sprint04:16
krtayloryes, I think we'll need more time than 24 hrs04:17
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asselin_infra doc manual was 4804:17
asselin_patrickeast, you still there?04:18
patrickeastyep04:18
krtaylorwe'll need just as much time I am afraid, fewer helpers04:18
krtaylorI hope I am wrong04:18
asselin_what do you think about sprint next wed & thurs?04:18
patrickeasti should be available, although i'm not sure how much help i04:19
patrickeast'll be*04:19
patrickeasti find myself asking you guys how things work most of the time, so not sure if i can run off and write up docs easily04:20
patrickeastlittle tasks maybe, if there are some04:20
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krtaylorI'll propose the idea tomorrow morning via email04:20
asselin_well, you can write the Q part of the FAQ :)04:20
patrickeasthaha yea, can do04:20
krtayloryes, actually there is a lot of cut and paste04:20
krtaylorwe have tons of meeting logs, good sources for q/a04:21
asselin_krtaylor, ++04:21
krtaylorwe can prob get Omri and Andreas involved too04:21
krtayloroh and sweston04:22
swestonyup ;-)04:22
krtaylorhey sweston04:22
asselin_hi sweston04:22
swestonkrtaylor, asselin_ hello04:22
krtaylorjust in time :)04:22
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swestonI have been slammed with handling design/implementation issues for my software defined hardware switch.  unfortunately, I have had no time for the dashboard, or (anything else not directly related to my company) since we last met.04:23
krtaylorso if there is not anything else on docs, next topic is monitoring dashboard04:23
krtaylorbeat me to it04:23
swestonso we can probably skip the next topic :-)04:24
krtaylorsweston, understood, I think all of us have a "day job", let us know when you are ready to jump back in04:24
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swestonkrtaylor: sure thing.  thanks for understanding04:25
krtaylorsweston, is there anything we can do in the mean time?04:25
swestonkrtaylor: sure, everyone is welcome to start looking over the new code in the radar repository04:25
swestonthere is lots there04:26
krtaylorI know jhesketh has commented, but the spec is prob low on your priorities currently04:26
krtayloryes, I did see that you were using that repo, thats good04:26
swestonyup04:27
krtaylorI was wondering if we could patch together the old radar as a quick fix while we were rolling out the new monitoring service04:27
swestonthe old radar code is in the scripts directory04:28
krtaylorI have not had time to figure out what broke though, I suspect CI member lists?04:28
swestonyou are welcome to look over it, but there is not much there04:29
krtaylorI was always a fan of the gauges, but I am easily amused04:29
swestoni've already completed most of the effort for this in creating the rest api and web client04:29
krtaylorI may, but I can't commit to it04:30
krtaylorsweston, yes, and that is where we should invest review time04:30
swestonthe easy part is next, which will be implementing some of the data gathering methods04:30
krtaylorgood to know, that will help04:31
krtaylordo you have a rough idea for when you will be able to return to it?04:31
swestonnext week, most likely04:31
krtaylorthat should work since my extra hours will be on documentation through the mini-sprint, if we are going to pull that off04:32
swestonok, that sounds good04:33
krtayloranything else for monitoring dashboard?04:33
swestonnot from me, no04:33
krtaylornext is puppet module split out04:33
krtaylormini sprint is Jan 28th04:34
asselin_15:00 UTC04:34
krtaylorasselin_, I did see that you added to the etherpad, with examples04:34
krtaylorthat will really help04:34
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asselin_yes, they were there before but got lost somehow04:34
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asselin_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-module-split-sprint04:35
asselin_#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/VirtualSprints#Schedule_of_Upcoming_OpenStack_Virtual_Sprints04:36
asselin_official sprint page ^^04:36
krtaylorare you thinking that the patch sets will be mostly done before then and that mini-sprint will be discussions and approvals?04:36
asselin_krtaylor, not necessarily04:37
asselin_in theory, we shouldn't have to do the patches beforehand, but we can04:38
krtaylorok, so any advance work is proof of concept04:38
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asselin_yes, anything done beforehand will help iron out issues04:38
asselin_sweston, is your script still running in cron?04:38
asselin_sweston, will you be available for the sprint?04:39
krtaylorI'll see if I can get my patches revised beforehand04:39
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swestonasselin_: yes, I will be there.  I stopped the script last week when I created the last patchset04:39
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krtaylorthat will be a fun one, to crank all that out in a day or so and get it done04:40
asselin_sweston, ok, I'm hoping we can use those repos.04:40
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asselin_krtaylor, ++04:41
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swestonasselin_: yup, I'll start the script back up again tonight04:41
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krtaylorand the question I had in the meeting agenda is answered in the etherpad04:41
krtaylorabout the storyboard04:41
asselin_sweston, ok. if you have ideas for the script, and just lack time, let me know and I can try to help out.04:41
swestonasselin_: sure04:41
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krtaylormmedvede and I can too04:42
asselin_yes, I think storyboard would be a good idea. It coordinates and you get recognition there too.04:42
swestonkrtaylor: excellent04:42
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asselin_#action asselin_ to make sure storyboard is up-to-date04:42
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krtaylorah, yes, good point04:43
asselin_patrickeast, if you want to help, these are pretty simple tasks04:43
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asselin_unless you're at the cinder mid-cycle meetup04:44
patrickeastyea i'll be at the meetup04:44
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krtaylorok, anyone have anything else on puppet module split out?04:45
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krtaylorand finally,  in-tree 3rd party ci, also yours asselin_04:46
krtaylorthat would be good to have infra feedback on04:46
asselin_yes, not much update. just lots of thoughts04:46
krtaylor#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:thirdpartyci,n,z04:46
asselin_seems that will accelerate after the puppet module splits are done04:46
krtaylorlike, how to centralize configuration?04:47
krtaylorfor both upstream and third-party04:47
asselin_no, I wasn't thinking of that04:47
asselin_really, what's the best approach to refactor and where to put the new pieces04:47
asselin_My latest thinking is to start an etherpad and go through the different pieces.04:48
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asselin_I hope to get some time later this week and do that04:49
krtaylorwell, we can come up with a suggestion, but I feel like the solution will be whatever has the least impact on infra04:49
krtaylorthat would be a great start04:49
asselin_yes, that's why it's tricky and needs input from them.04:49
krtayloragreed04:50
asselin_refactoring puppet is not that easy. unless there are some tools I don't know about.04:50
krtaylorI am still learning the subtleties of puppet04:51
asselin_so that's it unless anyone has questions or ideas04:52
krtaylorgreat, thanks for all the effort in everything04:53
krtaylor#topic Open Discussion04:53
krtayloranyone have anything not on the agenda?04:53
krtayloranyone else still awake?  :)04:53
krtaylorwell I'll end the meeting then04:55
krtaylorthanks everyone!04:55
asselin_thanks krtaylor04:55
swestonthanks krtaylor04:55
krtaylor#endmeeting04:55
openstackMeeting ended Wed Jan 14 04:55:31 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)04:55
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yamahatahello17:00
* yamahata is waiting for other members...17:02
* SridharRamaswamy same here17:02
SridharRamaswamyyamahata: hi17:02
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yamahata#startmeeting servicevm-device-manager17:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 14 17:03:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yamahata. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'servicevm_device_manager'17:03
yamahataLet's give participants few more minutes17:04
SridharRamaswamysure17:04
yamahata#chair SridharRamaswamy17:05
openstackCurrent chairs: SridharRamaswamy yamahata17:05
yamahataOkay let's begin17:05
yamahata#topic Announcement17:05
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yamahata#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceVM#Meeting_Janeurary_13.2C_2015 agenda17:05
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yamahatas3wong: hi17:06
s3wongyamahata: hello17:06
s3wongsorry I am late17:06
yamahata#chair s3wong17:06
openstackCurrent chairs: SridharRamaswamy s3wong yamahata17:06
yamahatas3wong: np17:06
yamahata#link http://doodle.com/6v5ebnq2787k6cfx  poll for webex meeting17:07
yamahataany announcement?17:07
yamahatamove on17:08
yamahata#topic Action Items from the last week17:08
yamahatayamahata mailed for webex meeting17:08
yamahatathe scheduling poll page is at http://doodle.com/6v5ebnq2787k6cfx17:08
yamahataI can host lync meeting, but I can't webex.17:09
yamahataI suppose people prefer webex, so is there volunteers?17:09
yamahataor hungup or something else?17:09
SridharRamaswamyyamahata: it shouldn't  matter that much between lync vs webex17:09
s3wongyamahata: on the email thread, Chetlapalle Akhila from Tata volunteered to set up a 25 people webex17:10
s3wongso we can contact him or her once we finalize the time17:10
yamahataOh cool. I haven't read it.17:10
SridharRamaswamys3wong: 25 is more than sufficient17:10
yamahataCool.17:10
s3wongSridharRamaswamy: I would imagine so :-)17:11
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yamahataI suppose no other action items.17:12
yamahata#topic Open Discussion17:12
yamahataanything to discuss?17:13
SridharRamaswamyI took one to draw out the tacker block diagram17:13
s3wongI thought SridharRamaswamy volunteered to put together a block diagram in the google doc?17:13
SridharRamaswamyi've one .. but not satified17:13
yamahataSridharRamaswamy: cool.17:13
SridharRamaswamyi need some more time to get it correct17:13
yamahataSridharRamaswamy: link please.17:14
SridharRamaswamysorry for the delay17:14
SridharRamaswamyi haven't put it up yet17:14
yamahataokay, np.17:14
SridharRamaswamyi'll try to get it by end of this week17:15
s3wongseems like the only vote on the webex so far is from SridharRamaswamy :-)17:16
SridharRamaswamy:)17:16
yamahata#action everyone vote on the webex schedule17:17
s3wongJan 15 would be this week --- are we ready to do it by the end of the week?17:17
s3wonghold on, it is Jan 23, never mind17:17
s3wongI will vote for Jan 23rd also17:18
yamahataPlease notice the time is UTC17:18
yamahataanything else to discuss?17:19
s3wongOh really? UTC is now 8 hours ahead of PST17:19
yamahataany patch review?17:19
s3wongso 9am UTC would be 1am PST? :-)17:19
yamahatas3wong: yes. At least I wanted to be agnostic to timezone.17:20
yamahataanyway I don't have special opinion on timezone. So I'm willing to change its timezone17:21
s3wongyamahata: I thought Doodle automatically adjust to your local timezone?17:21
yamahatas3wong: No. at least It's my understanding.17:21
s3wongyamahata: I think we can just suggest a time on the email thread (with timezone specified) and get everyone on the email thread to converge17:21
yamahataAt the right side, the time zone is shown.17:22
yamahatas3wong: Sure. will do17:22
yamahata#action yamahata I think we can just suggest a time on the email thread (with timezone specified) and get everyone on the email thread to converge17:22
s3wongany other topic to discuss?17:25
yamahatanothing from me.17:25
yamahataseems nothing.17:25
s3wongthanks, guys!17:25
yamahatathank you.17:25
yamahata#endmeeting17:26
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