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| gcb | #startmeeting oslo | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 22 14:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gcb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for amotoki, amrith, bknudson, bnemec, crushil, dansmith, dhellmann | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for dims, dougwig, e0ne, electrocucaracha, flaper87, garyk, gcb | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for GheRivero, haypo, jd__, jecarey, johnsom, jungleboyj, kgiusti | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for kragniz, lhx_, lifeless, lxsli, Nakato, ozamiatin, rbradfor | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for redrobot, rpodolyaka, sergmelikyan, sileht, spamaps, sreshetnyak, sreshetnyak | 14:00 |
| gcb | courtesy ping for stevemar, therve, thinrichs, toabctl, viktors, zhiyan, zzzeek | 14:00 |
| dims | o/ | 14:00 |
| ansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
| crushil | \o | 14:00 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 14:00 |
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| gcb | dims, ansmith, crushil, kgiusti \0/ | 14:01 |
| gcb | #topic Red flags for/from liaisons | 14:01 |
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| gcb | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/?groupKey=build_name&resolutionKey=hour&searchProject=-with-oslo | 14:02 |
| jungleboyj | Traveling right now so just working. No red flags to report from Cinder. | 14:02 |
| lhx__ | o/ | 14:02 |
| gcb | trove need fix for novaclient api changes which lead issues like http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-trove-py27-with-oslo-master | 14:03 |
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| gcb | lhx__: welcome | 14:03 |
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| gcb | "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'floating_ips'" breaks many projects as I know | 14:04 |
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| gcb | #topic Releases for Pike | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Releases for Pike (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:04 | |
| gcb | weekly release in https://review.openstack.org/466600 | 14:04 |
| gcb | we skip oslo.log this week to get all patches of improve-logging-debugging landed | 14:05 |
| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:06 | |
| dims | gcb : i'd request for this new tooz driver to be released when possible - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466098/ | 14:06 |
| dims | gcb : will help with the etcd as base service effort | 14:06 |
| gcb | dims: sure, please feel free to post one release of tooz, and add me as reviewer | 14:07 |
| dims | ack thanks gcb | 14:07 |
| gcb | dims: np | 14:07 |
| gcb | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:08 |
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| gcb | dims: you need people to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466098/, right ? | 14:08 |
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| dims | yes please. me and jd__ have been working on it | 14:09 |
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| gcb | dhellmann has patch series - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:improve-logging-debugging | 14:09 |
| gcb | dims: will try to review that one | 14:10 |
| gcb | any other patches need more people to help review ? | 14:11 |
| kgiusti | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462705/ if anyone is brave enough to face nasty bash code... | 14:12 |
| kgiusti | just the devstack plugin - seems ok on the gate tests. | 14:13 |
| dims | kgiusti : i can peek in a little bit unless someone beats me to it | 14:13 |
| kgiusti | dims: thanks | 14:13 |
| gcb | kgiusti, need a cup of coffee before reviewing your patch lol | 14:15 |
| kgiusti | gcb: just one? Took about half a pot to write it... | 14:16 |
| gcb | kgiusti, lol | 14:16 |
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| gcb | #topic Open discussion | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: oslo)" | 14:17 | |
| kgiusti | gcb: how do you feel about this: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116679.html | 14:17 |
| kgiusti | gcb: if you're in agreement I'll take the next steps - notify operators-dev and mark it deprecated in the code. | 14:18 |
| dims | looks like consensus on that one in ML | 14:19 |
| gcb | kgiusti, I just go through the email, in general I agree, | 14:20 |
| kgiusti | gcb: ok | 14:20 |
| kgiusti | gcb: getting a +1 or -1 from the PTL is important (at least to me) | 14:21 |
| gcb | kgiusti, +1, will reply the email | 14:22 |
| kgiusti | gcb: thanks | 14:23 |
| gcb | kgiusti, thanks for your follow up after the Forum discussion | 14:23 |
| kgiusti | gcb: np. | 14:24 |
| gcb | Is there any other things to be raised today :-) | 14:27 |
| gcb | we will close the meeting in 1 minutes if we don't have | 14:28 |
| kgiusti | fyi: next monday is a US holiday (labor day) | 14:29 |
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| gcb | kgiusti, so we can skip the meeting on next Monday | 14:30 |
| kgiusti | gcb: probably makes sense... | 14:31 |
| gcb | will sent the notice to dev ML | 14:31 |
| gcb | kgiusti, thanks for the reminder | 14:32 |
| kgiusti | np | 14:32 |
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| gcb | thanks everyone, I will close the meeting now :-) | 14:33 |
| gcb | #endmeeting | 14:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 22 14:33:31 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-05-22-14.00.html | 14:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-05-22-14.00.txt | 14:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2017/oslo.2017-05-22-14.00.log.html | 14:33 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 22 15:01:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:01 |
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| rakhmerov | hi, anybody here from Mistral team? | 15:02 |
| mgershen | o/ | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | hi ) | 15:02 |
| bobh | o/ | 15:02 |
| toure | hello | 15:02 |
| rakhmerov | let's wait 1 more minute | 15:02 |
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| rbrady | o/ | 15:03 |
| thrash | o/ | 15:03 |
| rakhmerov | ok, it's just been a week after the summit and the last meeting was devoted to the demo of Mistral GUI | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | so today I just would like to sync up on the current activities and further plans | 15:04 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (current tasks, plans, roadblocks) | 15:04 |
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| rakhmerov | if you have any updates, pls share them | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | my status: sent several patches with API layer optimizations, they were already merged | 15:05 |
| rakhmerov | working on "Tracking previous tasks", need some more work to make "Join" case work, other than that it's done | 15:06 |
| rakhmerov | also reviews as usually | 15:06 |
| bobh | I'm working on some minor documentation improvements, should be pushed this week | 15:06 |
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| rakhmerov | bobh: thanks, and btw, also thanks for your patch for ad-hoc actions | 15:07 |
| bobh | rakhmerov: np - it will be useful in our application and hopefully to others | 15:07 |
| thrash | still working on the securing secrets impl | 15:07 |
| d0ugal | Hey | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | bobh: indeed | 15:08 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: hey ) | 15:08 |
| d0ugal | Looks like my connection dropped - I missed the start of the meeting | 15:08 |
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| rakhmerov | thrash: any roadblocks where we could help? | 15:08 |
| thrash | rakhmerov: not at the moment. | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: no problem, we've just started | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | sharing updates | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | thrash: ok | 15:09 |
| d0ugal | As for my status - I have been busy working on some TripleO workflows - but I am mostly done with that now, so as of today I am back working on the mistral-extra work. So I am going to be getting it ready for the openstack actions. | 15:09 |
| d0ugal | I am just trying to remember where I was with it and what I need to do next :) | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | please go over the items you're assigned to for the current milestone (pike 2) | 15:09 |
| rbrady | I'm working with thrash a little on the securing secrets, planning to add some more actions to tripleo | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | it ends on June 8, as far as I remember | 15:09 |
| toure | status: working on closing errors in workflow error analysis, mainly around the mistralclient, after which I plan on improving the sqlalchemy query to be bit more flexible | 15:09 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: the last thing I saw (and merged) was apetrich_ 's patch to switch all our actions to the class from mistral-lib | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | it's a pretty much all we need, as far as I understand | 15:10 |
| rakhmerov | the next step can be just moving them over to mistral-lib, IMO | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: ok, good | 15:11 |
| rakhmerov | toure: any roadblocks? | 15:11 |
| toure | pecan.py :) | 15:11 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: yeah, I agree - there are a few extra things, like a config for enabling/disabling actions for projects etc. | 15:11 |
| d0ugal | toure: lol, I've used it in anger a few times in the past if I can help. | 15:12 |
| toure | d0ugal thanks | 15:12 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:12 |
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| toure | I am slowly working through it, I will ping you if I hit a brick wall | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady, d0ugal: what I'm also thinking about is start writing docs for mistral-lib users | 15:13 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Are we ready to merge the error analysis spec? https://review.openstack.org/443217 | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | toure: ok | 15:13 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I need to look at it again | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | I thought we had some questions there | 15:13 |
| rakhmerov | but again, I'm for more agile approach at this point | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: k, thanks - I just voted, the last change just removed the WIP I think. | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:14 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: +1, I think the spec covers the problem well and general solution - it will be hard to work out more details without trying out patches and giving feedback. | 15:14 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: review https://review.openstack.org/443217 again | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: good idea, I actually have a draft blog post about mistral-lib, I just need to finish it. Maybe after I post it I can use some of it for documentation | 15:15 |
| d0ugal | or use it as a start for documentation. | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: that would be great, yep | 15:15 |
| rakhmerov | later (probably this summer) I'd like to spend a week or two for restructuring the entire docs | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | +1 | 15:16 |
| d0ugal | I've often thought about doing that too :) | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | I'm not saying I will be doing the whole thing myself. But I'd like to start with it and maybe we'll split it into different workstreams | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | awesome, we'll do it | 15:16 |
| rakhmerov | and this is one of our goals for this year ) | 15:17 |
| d0ugal | Yeah, I think first we should define a new documentation structure and then we can split it up and move the new docs to match it and fill in the gaps. | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: Michal, do you know when you can get back to Mistral tasks? | 15:17 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, what I also want to do is to somehow describe common principles on how we write docs | 15:18 |
| rbrady | +1 for defining a structure and making it easier for mulitple contributors | 15:18 |
| mgershen | I hope this week | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | don't know how, honestly :) | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | but I'd like to | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: ok ) | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 15:18 |
| rakhmerov | this week when I finish my current task I'll move to HA work | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | I'm planning to start writing more tests targeted to test Mistral in HA | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | so that will be for another goal set for this year ) | 15:19 |
| rakhmerov | that work is pretty much endless but I'll try to participate in other things as much as I can | 15:20 |
| d0ugal | great | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 15:20 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady, thrash, bobh: I think I forgot to ask you last time, how was the summit in general? | 15:21 |
| rakhmerov | I mean, this was a little new format and I wonder how it worked out | 15:21 |
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| bobh | rakhmerov: I think it works but I did miss the ore technical discussions that were held at the PTG - I'll need to get to Denver | 15:22 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: I thought the summit was okay. there were a few talks I couldn't make it to because of scheduling conflicts | 15:22 |
| bobh | rakhmerov: it's still an overwhelming number of sessions and I always find out on Thursday that there was a session on Tuesday that I should have attended | 15:22 |
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| rakhmerov | bobh: ok | 15:22 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, btw, I asked for the room in Denver for Mistral | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | for two days | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | so please plan to join | 15:23 |
| rbrady | cool. | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | 3 days I think was a little to much last time | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | 2 sounds sufficient | 15:23 |
| rbrady | I have to drop. I will see you all on IRC. | 15:23 |
| rakhmerov | sure | 15:24 |
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| rakhmerov | so, I'm actually out of topics for today, just wanted to sync up | 15:24 |
| toure | rakhmerov will it have video conferencing ability :) | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | as far as I can tell, things are going ok | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | toure: PTG? | 15:24 |
| toure | yeah | 15:24 |
| rakhmerov | hm.. I think it's doable if we ask it in advance | 15:25 |
| toure | just for folks who may not be able to make it | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | I can try to organize that | 15:25 |
| toure | cool | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | yes, I see | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | any other topics from you guys? | 15:25 |
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| d0ugal | Nope, nothing else from me | 15:25 |
| toure | nope I am good | 15:25 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's finish earlier then | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | thanks for joining, have a good week! | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 15:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 22 15:26:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-05-22-15.01.html | 15:26 |
| toure | thanks, cya | 15:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-05-22-15.01.txt | 15:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-05-22-15.01.log.html | 15:26 |
| rakhmerov | see ya | 15:26 |
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| dtantsur | anyone up for an ironic meeting? :) | 16:59 |
| jlvillal | Heck yeah! ;) | 16:59 |
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| dtantsur | nice :) | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | #startmeeting ironic | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 22 17:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 17:00 |
| rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 17:00 |
| baha | o/ | 17:00 |
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| stendulker | o/ | 17:00 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | hi everyone! welcome to the most ironic meeting in the openstack world :) | 17:00 |
| anupn | o/ | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | :) | 17:01 |
| crushil | \o | 17:01 |
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| dtantsur | our agenda can be found here: | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 17:01 |
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| xavierr | o/ | 17:01 |
| izumi777 | o/ | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | #topic Announcements / Reminder | 17:02 |
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| dtantsur | #info dtantsur plans on the 1st IPA release for Pike | 17:02 |
| dtantsur | we haven't done a release yet, so I'd prefer to do it this week | 17:02 |
| sambetts | o/ | 17:02 |
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| nicodemos | o/ | 17:03 |
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| dtantsur | #info Pike-2 is in 2 weeks | 17:03 |
| mjturek | o/ | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | which may not affect ironic itself too much, but is still something to keep in mind | 17:03 |
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| jlvillal | FYI: I will be attending a work event this week and then will be on vacation until 12-June-2017. Expect limited activity from me during this time :( | 17:03 |
| dtantsur | thanks for the update, jlvillal | 17:03 |
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| dtantsur | #info jlvillal is mostly out till 12-June-2017 | 17:04 |
| sauloaislan | o/ | 17:04 |
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| dtantsur | anyone has anything else? | 17:04 |
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| dtantsur | #topic Review subteam status reports (capped at ten minutes) | 17:05 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard starting with line 94 | 17:05 |
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| dtantsur | two BFV patches merged today, \o/ | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | Nice! Congrats TheJulia and everyone else. | 17:06 |
| * dtantsur wonders if TheJulia is around | 17:06 | |
| mjturek | \o/ | 17:06 |
| rajinir | o/ | 17:07 |
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| dtantsur | folks, do you know some nova folks to chase to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419975/ reviewed? | 17:09 |
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| vdrok | hrm, I guess we can just ask someone in nova channel :) | 17:11 |
| dtantsur | yeah.. anyone wants to do it or should I? | 17:11 |
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| dtantsur | yeah, we do. so we can chase some folks | 17:12 |
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| dtantsur | #action dtantsur to try attracting some reviews to the nova patch for attach/detach https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419975/ | 17:13 |
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| dtantsur | is everyone done reviewing the statuses? | 17:15 |
| vdrok | I'm done :) | 17:16 |
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| dtantsur | #topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week | 17:16 |
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| dtantsur | we've done some good job! | 17:16 |
| dtantsur | we managed to merge 2 install-guide updates and one of the BFV patches | 17:17 |
| dtantsur | I'm certainly inclined to take the next BFV patch. wdyt? | 17:17 |
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| dtantsur | mjturek: do you plan on rebasing/updating https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406290 ? | 17:17 |
| mjturek | dtantsur: I can handle it yep | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | cool! I don't know if TheJulia plans on it, so please sync with her | 17:18 |
| vdrok | dtantsur: I'm all for it, but I'd also love if the calls to storage interface were moved out of deploy :) | 17:18 |
| mjturek | dtantsur: sure not sure if she's around but will ping her | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | vdrok: well, this is something we can discuss on the patch :) where would you move them? | 17:18 |
| vdrok | and into conductor | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | ah | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | yeah, let's discuss on the patch and/or on the BFV meeting on Thursday | 17:19 |
| vdrok | I did comment on that, now it's time to advertise https://review.openstack.org/453139 :) | 17:19 |
| vdrok | okie | 17:19 |
| sambetts | I'm currently -1 on this and I've just left a comment on your RFE for that stuff | 17:19 |
| vdrok | sambetts: thx, will take a look | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | sambetts, vdrok, I wonder if we need a spec that defines the policy of what goes in what interface, and what goes to the conductor | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | there is a lot of misunderstanding here | 17:20 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1679834 | 17:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1679834 in Ironic "[RFE] Moving network interface calls out of the deployment interface" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Vladyslav Drok (vdrok) | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | I know some vendor folks are confused about boot-deploy separation, for example | 17:20 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: yes, but a generic one. | 17:20 |
| sambetts | +1 wondering if it needs converting | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | vdrok: is it something you would like to write? | 17:21 |
| vdrok | dtantsur: yeah, maybe s/spec/doc, dunno. it just does not seem right to me to have the separation and still call other interfaces from inside deploy | 17:21 |
| vdrok | dtantsur: sure, will try to formulate something this week | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | I think a spec would get more attention than docs | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | thanks! | 17:21 |
| dtantsur | back to the priorities. anything you would like to see there? | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | and note that if you don't propose anything, I'll propose my install-guide changes :D | 17:22 |
| vdrok | dtantsur: more of your docs patches? :D | 17:22 |
| dtantsur | easy! :) | 17:22 |
| vdrok | += | 17:22 |
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| dtantsur | does the list look good now? | 17:23 |
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| sambetts | +1 | 17:24 |
| * dtantsur wonders how many people are active on the meeting | 17:24 | |
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| vdrok | fine with me | 17:24 |
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| dtantsur | okay, moving on | 17:24 |
| dtantsur | #topic vendor additions to sushy: separate project(s) or submodule in sushy-tree? | 17:25 |
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| dtantsur | stendulker: your topic :) | 17:25 |
| stendulker | Thanks | 17:25 |
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| stendulker | This is regarding how to enable the vendor redfish extensions | 17:25 |
| deray | hi all.. I am in favour of submodule in Sushy-tree | 17:25 |
| stendulker | In classic drivers all vendor code is part of their own libs | 17:26 |
| vdrok | do you plan to have a CI for that? | 17:26 |
| stendulker | The own libs provide flexibility to the vendors wrt things to add and release | 17:26 |
| stendulker | We would add the CI for the Ironic redfish interfaces being supported | 17:27 |
| dtantsur | I'd love to get more people to hack on sushy, and to make sure than vendor additions are consistent with it | 17:27 |
| jlvillal | My default gut feeling is separate project. But my opinion could be changed :) | 17:27 |
| stendulker | just as we do for the classic drivers | 17:27 |
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| dtantsur | stendulker: how much code and future changes do you expect for such vendor code? | 17:28 |
| stendulker | In case of HPE, all the proliantutils code related to boot mode and inspection would be their into redfish | 17:28 |
| stendulker | Also all the newer hardware features would get enabled only through redfish | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | stendulker: boot mode - you mean configuring UEFI, right? | 17:28 |
| wanyen_ | I think vendor oem extension should be outside of Ironic and treat it like vnedor proliant util project for example | 17:29 |
| stendulker | both UEI and UEFI secure boot | 17:29 |
| vdrok | stendulker: so the way eg to get the boot device is different? just not sure what is vendor extension in this case | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | vdrok: no, it's about UEFI (boot mode, not boot device) | 17:29 |
| vdrok | oh, right | 17:29 |
| dtantsur | I hope that power on/off and getting/setting boot device is more or less the same :) | 17:29 |
| stendulker | Even in UEFI, there are extensions wrt UEFI target boot devices | 17:29 |
| * dtantsur is afraid to be proved wrong though | 17:30 | |
| deray | dtantsur, you r right | 17:30 |
| stendulker | these things would vary from vendor to vendor and can be difficult to manage through single lib | 17:30 |
| dtantsur | so, I see that folks tend to prefer separate libraries, right? | 17:31 |
| wanyen_ | vendor oem extension defines vendor specific features, such as oob RAID config, extended BIOS schema, etc | 17:31 |
| stendulker | better to start as separate vendor libs and later on if required can get into sushy .... | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | so e.g. with have sushy, then we have sushy-hpe, sushy-dell, etc? | 17:31 |
| dtantsur | stendulker++ this is a very valid point | 17:31 |
| rpioso | Please elaborate on the analogy with classic drivers. | 17:31 |
| stendulker | In case of classic drivers all vendors have their own libs | 17:31 |
| stendulker | like proliantutils for iLO , drc-client for drac and so on | 17:32 |
| rpioso | stendulker: For DRAC, it's because WS-Man is used to communicate with the iDRAC BMC. | 17:32 |
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| rpioso | stendulker: That's the vendor unique aspect. | 17:33 |
| wanyen_ | also, vendor OEM extension can be very huge | 17:33 |
| stendulker | yes, extensions are going to equally different implementations | 17:33 |
| rpioso | stendulker: Won't Redfish be used, even for vendor exteensions. | 17:33 |
| stendulker | it would be redfish, but how data is hosted for a similar resource would differ from vendor to vendor | 17:34 |
| deray | rpioso, r u hinting that the Redfish mode of communication would remain the same and that makes it a possible candidate of reuse? | 17:35 |
| * sambetts isn't a fan of havn't them as "vendor specific" repo's because people see them as owned by the vendor and it puts of contributors that aren't the vendor but happen to have that vendors hardware | 17:35 | |
| sambetts | s/havn't/having | 17:35 |
| stendulker | and most of these extensions exists because there is contention with regards to standardisation amongst vendors | 17:35 |
| rpioso | deray: I'm just trying to identify the analogy. | 17:36 |
| vdrok | so you're talking to extensions to sushy, not like vendor interface. as vendor interface should not be huge, and can be even in ironic tree if there is CI | 17:36 |
| wanyen_ | RedFish has standard schema and vendor OEM schema. Vedor OEM extension is typically related to vendor specific hardware features and enhancements | 17:36 |
| stendulker | sambetts: that is true to some extent, but these libs are also open sourced and uses only publicly documented interfaces | 17:36 |
| vdrok | yup, I suppose it's better to keep it separate then | 17:36 |
| deray | rpioso, okay | 17:36 |
| rpioso | wanyen_: Could you provide an example or two? | 17:37 |
| sambetts | stendulker: doesn't matter, if its called susy-hpe, I guarentee noone ecept hpe people will end up contibuting because people see it as owned by hpe | 17:37 |
| wanyen_ | smabetts, it's about who to review vendor specifc code | 17:38 |
| * rpioso notes that not every classic driver supports all ironic driver interfaces. | 17:38 | |
| vdrok | rpioso: I have an example of an ipmi extension -- https://github.com/openstack/ironic-staging-drivers/tree/master/ironic_staging_drivers/intel_nm, with redfish I suppose it's something similar, but doing http requests instead of calling a binary | 17:39 |
| vdrok | these policies are not in standard ipmi afaik | 17:39 |
| stendulker | sambetts: tht is true, but bigger factor is only ppl who have these vendor h/w can work on these libs. And such h/w is not common with all developers | 17:39 |
| wanyen_ | examples are if vendor BIOS support iscsi boot and it has oem extension to configure oob iscsi boot, same for storage raid controller, some vendor hardware supports oob RAID config, so it has oem ext to configure raid, etc | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | which objections do we have except for potentially low contributor rate? | 17:40 |
| dtantsur | we will need to define some stable SDK in sushy in this case for writing such vendor additions, obviously | 17:40 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: I assume they won;t live inside Ironic's ownership if they are separate? | 17:41 |
| sambetts | but susey will | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | sambetts: this is correct (similar to how proliantutils and dracclient are treated nowadays) | 17:41 |
| sambetts | which will make so IRC questions hard if we can't tell where susey stops and vendor thing ends | 17:42 |
| sambetts | vendor thing begins*( | 17:42 |
| vdrok | also iirc sushy was created as a very basic lib while redfishclient has issues, but i don't know the state of redfish client | 17:42 |
| deray | sambetts, I guess we can add those OEM extensions to sushy as and when they become standards in Redfish | 17:43 |
| stendulker | other option is to have the vendor libs importig sushy and having own names like hpe-redfish, dell-redfish etc | 17:43 |
| rpioso | wanyem_: hrm, isn't oob RAID covered by the ironic classic driver RAID interface? | 17:43 |
| sambetts | and we need to ensure that there is discoverablity for the vendor extensions too, because otherwise you run into the living breathing problem that is neutron drivers, and that no body knows they exist, what they support or how to install them | 17:43 |
| stendulker | rpioso: no. RAID is in-band in classic drivers | 17:43 |
| wanyen_ | each vendor should name their ownlib | 17:43 |
| rpioso | s/wanyem_/wanyen_/ | 17:43 |
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| rpioso | stendulker: Not with the drac classic driver. It's oob via the BMC. | 17:44 |
| stendulker | rpioso: only DRAC has OOB raid I suppose | 17:44 |
| stendulker | rpioso: yes. | 17:44 |
| rpioso | stendulker: My point is that that's in the tree. | 17:45 |
| sambetts | dtantsur: just from what I learned from conversations around drivers and in-tree vs out of tree and the neutron ml2 scenario, IMO out-of-tree makes everything worse | 17:45 |
| rpioso | stenulker: The interface is common, while the underbelly is unique. | 17:45 |
| wanyen_ | fundamentally, each vendor has their own unique hardware or firmware features that's why vendor OEM ext is added to RedFish | 17:46 |
| rpioso | s/stenulker/stendulker/ | 17:46 |
| stendulker | rpioso: but isnt it making call to drac-client? | 17:46 |
| deray | dtantsur, > which objections do we have except for potentially low contributor rate? .. lot of duplicated code probably if not properly governed | 17:46 |
| rpioso | stendulker: The implementation of that interface uses the drac-client. It's at the bottom of the call stack. | 17:47 |
| wanyen_ | even more than one vendor has the same hardware features but their RedFish OEM extensions are different | 17:47 |
| rpioso | deray: +1 | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | deray: this is very true. people may have to implement the same thing over and over | 17:47 |
| dtantsur | even if the actual interface is different, the support code may be very close | 17:47 |
| stendulker | rpioso: Common things we could add into the sushy and use it in vendor libs | 17:48 |
| deray | dtantsur, rpioso but still there are many vendor extns which are kinda unique tho .. | 17:48 |
| rpioso | rpioso: While it may be too soon to tell, I prefer we side on the assumption that more will be able to be reused, rather than less. | 17:48 |
| dtantsur | deray: extensions, yes, but not necessary the code to implement them. it may different only e.g. in field names | 17:49 |
| deray | stendulker, ++ | 17:49 |
| wanyen_ | dtantsur, the redfish schema will be different and the link are different | 17:49 |
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| dtantsur | I know, this is not what I'm talking about | 17:49 |
| dtantsur | there is a lot of code that *only* differs in field names | 17:49 |
| deray | dtantsur, true to some extent.. I was actually talking bat features avaialable with different vendors | 17:50 |
| rpioso | What's the plan for the other interfaces already supported by the classic driver? | 17:51 |
| wanyen_ | dtantsur, I think it will become very complicated if we try to generalize vendor oem extension. There is a reason why RedFish has Vendor OEM extension | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | I'm also worried about things like high logging standard, and testing standard, etc (I'm not saying you folks don't have it, but it may start being quite different) | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | wanyen_: this is also NOT what we're discussing here | 17:51 |
| stendulker | rpioso: no change. There is no redfish in classic drivers | 17:51 |
| dtantsur | we're merely talking about code reuse, if the extensions will live e.g. in sushy.ext.<VENDOR> | 17:52 |
| rpioso | stendulker: For example, RAID. | 17:52 |
| stendulker | rpioso: there would be new interfaces based on redfish | 17:52 |
| vdrok | so there are two options I suppose, put it in sushy or separately. I'd vote separately, as I will not be useful reviewing vendor extensions | 17:52 |
| rpioso | Is out-of-tree a way to enable vendorts to add interfaces not yet implemented by ironic? | 17:52 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: no | 17:52 |
| vdrok | rpioso: vendor passthru :) | 17:53 |
| wanyen_ | vdrok, same here++ | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | well, yeah :) | 17:53 |
| wanyen_ | core members already have a lot of things to review | 17:53 |
| dtantsur | ok, we seem to slightly more bias towards having them separate. stendulker, could you please post this discussion to the ML, so that people who are not here can voice their opinion too? | 17:53 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Does this have any relation to driver composition? | 17:54 |
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| sambetts | rpioso: nope | 17:54 |
| stendulker | dtantsur: Sure | 17:54 |
| wanyen_ | so adding vendor specific code into sushy will make even more burden to reviewers | 17:54 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: not direct. we're talking about implementations and where they live | 17:54 |
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| dtantsur | let's please move on. we have a preliminary result, let's reiterate on the ML over it. | 17:54 |
| sambetts | 6 minute warning | 17:54 |
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| dtantsur | does it sound good? | 17:54 |
| stendulker | dtantsur: thank you | 17:55 |
| vdrok | rpioso: driver composition is about changing the way driver is composed from interfaces, not about changing the things that those interfaces do | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | np, thanks for raising it | 17:55 |
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| dtantsur | we have one more topic to quickly go over | 17:55 |
| dtantsur | #topic moving ironic-agent element to IPA | 17:55 |
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| dtantsur | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117170.html | 17:55 |
| deray | I am in favour of having vendor plugin codes for sushy extns | 17:55 |
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| deray | probably out of tree from sushy | 17:56 |
| vdrok | I'm +1 on a separate repo for all the build related stuff | 17:56 |
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| dtantsur | this was discussed on the summit, but just to reiterate. we want DIB as a supported means of building IPA, and that seems to require owning the element. | 17:56 |
| dtantsur | sambetts proposed having a new repo, which folks seem to be in favour of | 17:56 |
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| dtantsur | any other opinions, questions or concerns? | 17:56 |
| wanyen_ | dtansur +1 for ironic to own its own DIB element | 17:57 |
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| wanyen_ | Magnum took this approach | 17:57 |
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| dtantsur | ok, the last item will have to be moved out of meeting, but I'll raise it | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | #topic RFE review | 17:59 |
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| dtantsur | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-lib/+bug/1690458 | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690458 in ironic-lib "[RFE] During cleaning, remove also disk labels (not just partitions)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | please check it if you have time, and lemme know (or just comment on it) | 17:59 |
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| dtantsur | with this, thank you everyone! | 17:59 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting ironic | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 22 18:00:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-05-22-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-05-22-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2017/ironic.2017-05-22-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| ildikov | #startmeeting openstack_upstream_institute | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 22 20:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_upstream_institute' | 20:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 20:00 |
| spotz | \o/ | 20:00 |
| blancos | o/ | 20:00 |
| kmARC | o/ | 20:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 20:00 |
| ildikov | Happy Monday Team! :) | 20:00 |
| jungleboyj | Happy Monday! | 20:00 |
| skelso | o/ | 20:00 |
| vkmc | o/ | 20:01 |
| spotz | Impressive turnout!:) | 20:01 |
| ildikov | today's agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-upstream-institute-meetings | 20:01 |
| jungleboyj | spotz: Impressive team. ;-) | 20:01 |
| ildikov | :) | 20:02 |
| spotz | :) | 20:02 |
| ildikov | it's a pretty cool team, thank you all! :) | 20:02 |
| ildikov | I cannot repeat it enough times | 20:02 |
| ildikov | but back to the agenda :) | 20:03 |
| ildikov | #topic Announcements | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: openstack_upstream_institute)" | 20:03 | |
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| jungleboyj | :-) | 20:03 |
| ildikov | with diablo_rojo we're working on getting feedback from the attendees | 20:03 |
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| jaypipes | hola | 20:03 |
| ildikov | not that many so far unfortunately, but we got another round of reminder mails out today | 20:03 |
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| ildikov | hoping that people back from maybe time off after the Summit will respond | 20:04 |
| ildikov | jaypipes: hi Jay :) | 20:04 |
| mpranjic | hi o/ | 20:04 |
| spotz | ildikov: Surveys unfortunately have low response rates in general | 20:05 |
| ildikov | the feedback so far is that the communication section seems less important, while the Zuul part was harder to digest | 20:05 |
| ildikov | spotz: I know! :( | 20:05 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Hello :) Was looking at the wrong channel lol | 20:05 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo_phon: lol, I also pinged your other nick | 20:06 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo_phon: the beauty of Mondays... :/ :) | 20:06 |
| kmARC | it's morning for you, we understand :-) | 20:06 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | kmARC: afternoon now, but I'll take the escuse. | 20:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Sorry to derail :) | 20:07 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Yeah, I got that feeling already at the session on the Zuul section. I am going to work on improving that section. | 20:07 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: sounds good, tnx! | 20:07 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Welcome. | 20:07 |
| ildikov | mpranjic: hi :) | 20:08 |
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| ildikov | if no more announcements (I don't have more), then I think we can move forward and at the same time skip the open reviews part too | 20:08 |
| ildikov | so let's spend a bit more time on retrospective | 20:09 |
| ildikov | #topic Boston training retrospective | 20:09 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | +1 | 20:09 |
| mpranjic | all ears :) | 20:09 |
| ildikov | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_OUI_Post_Mortem | 20:09 |
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| mpranjic | err.. eyes... all eyes :) | 20:10 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | mpranjic: lol | 20:10 |
| ildikov | here's the etherpad with the ideas/thoughts we collected so far | 20:10 |
| ildikov | mpranjic: lol | 20:10 |
| * smcginnis sneaks in | 20:10 | |
| * jungleboyj looks at smcginnis Dude, where you been? | 20:12 | |
| ildikov | so please jump on the etherpad and add +1's or additional thoughts you have about the training | 20:12 |
| smcginnis | This jerk has bene distracting me all day. | 20:12 |
| jungleboyj | I have had the same problem. | 20:12 |
| ildikov | we can work on forming a task list and I'm hoping for volunteers to pick some of the items up :) | 20:13 |
| mpranjic | sounds good | 20:14 |
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| diablo_rojo | Does anyone have anything that hasn't been noted already? | 20:17 |
| spotz | I thought we did a pretty good job last week | 20:18 |
| kmARC | let's wait with it until TMR morning and then one can compile a task list from it | 20:18 |
| diablo_rojo | kmARC, +1 | 20:18 |
| ildikov | kmARC: good point, I didn't mean to finalize that right now | 20:19 |
| ildikov | is there anything that anyone would feel to discuss? | 20:19 |
| kmARC | ah okay | 20:19 |
| kmARC | _ANYTHING_? :-D | 20:20 |
| smcginnis | :) | 20:20 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: I have todo's for the 'slides that need fixing' section already. | 20:20 |
| ildikov | kmARC: anything related to the topic ;) | 20:20 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: sounds good, thanks | 20:20 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: just shout if you need help with any of those | 20:21 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Will do. It will be a couple of weeks before I can get to those, but will. :-) | 20:22 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, let us know when you need reviews :) | 20:23 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: ok, thanks for the heads up :) | 20:23 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Will do. | 20:23 |
| ildikov | I think one of the items that's part of the retrospective, but not for the actual training is to find either an alternating meeting slot or an alternative way of communication to include our team member in the Asia TZ's | 20:25 |
| ildikov | I wonder what would be more preferred? | 20:25 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: what time slot would we be talking about? | 20:26 |
| ildikov | I thought to ask in relation to the discussions ongoing about the TC meetings for instance | 20:26 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: this slot is currently a bit inconvenient for Europe and very inconvenient for people in Asia, so I would think about Europe-Asia friendly slot | 20:27 |
| ildikov | like something in the range of 0600 - 1100 UTC I would guess | 20:28 |
| mpranjic | yeah, that might do | 20:28 |
| ildikov | but would need to run a Doodle poll if we go to that direction to be more certain | 20:28 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: 0600 - 1100 UTC seems harsh for the US based crowd | 20:29 |
| kmARC | +1 for doodling it | 20:29 |
| spotz | Time translation?:) | 20:29 |
| kmARC | +6 westcoast | 20:30 |
| kmARC | :-) | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | spotz: I just Google it :) | 20:30 |
| kmARC | sorry. -6 and east :-D | 20:30 |
| kmARC | all the other parts were correct in that sentence | 20:30 |
| spotz | kmARC: heheh | 20:30 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: 1100 UTC would be 5am central us, 3 am US West coast | 20:30 |
| spotz | yeah that's a wee bit early | 20:31 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: I suggest alternating weeks | 20:31 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: one week with a time friendly to US and Europe. The following week with time friendly to Europe and Far East | 20:32 |
| mlavalle | Europe being the bridge between the two audiences | 20:32 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: so the first question is whether we want to continue with the weekly meetings | 20:32 |
| ildikov | mlavalle: if we do, I will setup a Doodle poll again and pick an alternating slot, like as you said alternating weeks to reach out to the other side of the planet as well | 20:33 |
| spotz | mlavalle: I know having 2 meetings didn't work well for the Diversity WG | 20:33 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: even if we don't continue with weekly meetings, it would be good to alternate | 20:33 |
| spotz | We could go to once or twice a month until closer to summit | 20:33 |
| mlavalle | spotz: Neutron team alternates | 20:33 |
| spotz | mlavalle: Probably a larger group then we had:( | 20:34 |
| ildikov | I was also thinking about catching up with people on the channel next day Europe morning time | 20:34 |
| mpranjic | it is almost impossible to have one meeting for all (world-wide) | 20:34 |
| ildikov | as the channel is logged as well | 20:34 |
| mpranjic | I, for example, fall asleep waiting for some of the previous ones :) | 20:34 |
| mpranjic | and they were not too late for Europe | 20:35 |
| ildikov | mpranjic: it is impossible... :( | 20:35 |
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| ildikov | mpranjic: or well, I cannot expect people to show up on the meeting when it's like 4 am or 5 am in the morning... | 20:36 |
| mpranjic | ildikov: true | 20:36 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: that is why, if you have a big audience in the Far East, alternating meetings is good | 20:36 |
| mpranjic | so maybe we split topics/tasks and divide them between regions (west, europe, east)? | 20:37 |
| ildikov | so Doodle it is | 20:37 |
| mlavalle | ildikov: IMO, it beats having to update team members in channel the following day | 20:37 |
| mpranjic | ildikov: what the heck is doodle? | 20:37 |
| ildikov | mpranjic: I'm not sure we can make a that clean cut with the tasks | 20:37 |
| ildikov | mpranjic: a web tool where people can vote on their preference | 20:38 |
| spotz | If a task needs more then one person we could definitely pair people up by close timezone | 20:38 |
| ildikov | mpranjic: used for trying to find out what's most people's preference is | 20:38 |
| mpranjic | ildikov: oh i see. thnx :) | 20:38 |
| ildikov | mpranjic: https://beta.doodle.com , if you want to know more :) | 20:39 |
| ildikov | spotz: we can definitely try | 20:39 |
| mpranjic | spotz: makes sense | 20:39 |
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| ildikov | and we can always use the channel to sync up or mails or Gerrit, ton of options | 20:40 |
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| ildikov | I will create a poll tomorrow and send out the mailing list | 20:40 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: ++ | 20:40 |
| jungleboyj | I think trying to split up discussions would be difficult. | 20:41 |
| jungleboyj | Would prefer alternating over that. | 20:41 |
| kmARC | jungleboyj: +1 | 20:41 |
| spotz | +1 | 20:41 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: +1 | 20:42 |
| ildikov | ok, I think we can move on | 20:42 |
| mpranjic | oki | 20:42 |
| ildikov | #topic VM image source files | 20:43 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: I think it would be great to store the VM image files in the training-guides repo | 20:43 |
| kmARC | I know, I know | 20:43 |
| ildikov | kmARC: as we discussed it earlier | 20:43 |
| ildikov | I just thought to bring it up here/now to see what's blocking and/or what we can help with | 20:44 |
| ildikov | if that's still the plan | 20:44 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: so I didn't want to rush you, rather would like to help :) | 20:45 |
| kmARC | well, the whole vagrant-sorcery is debatable wether it fits into training-GUIDES :-) | 20:45 |
| ildikov | I know | 20:45 |
| ildikov | we can do traingin-labs, although that wasn't a full fit either | 20:45 |
| ildikov | we use the sources to guide people by the end of the day | 20:46 |
| ildikov | like docs lives with code in the same repo all around :) | 20:46 |
| ildikov | but I'm open to suggestions | 20:46 |
| mpranjic | can someone give me few words about this issue pls | 20:46 |
| mpranjic | ? | 20:46 |
| ildikov | mpranjic: we have a VM image we use for the training | 20:47 |
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| mpranjic | ok | 20:47 |
| ildikov | and we have some scripts that puts that image together and we would like to store that somewhere in a repo under the openstack namespace | 20:47 |
| mpranjic | a ok. thnx :) | 20:48 |
| ildikov | and also eventually put together a gate job a publish the built image to tarballs.openstack.org | 20:48 |
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| ildikov | kmARC: I'm fine with training-guides personally, but let me know if that's a big issue and then we can look into an alternative to that | 20:50 |
| ildikov | I don't think we should create a new repo for that, but maybe we should | 20:50 |
| kmARC | well, I would prefer a separate repository. | 20:51 |
| kmARC | BC then we can just bring it over from github, with all commit history | 20:51 |
| kmARC | and since it's a very well distinguishable project of the institute, it deserves it's own repository | 20:52 |
| ildikov | ok, I can look it up how that goes and then we can get back to the topic | 20:52 |
| kmARC | Also it is not dependend on the training guides so there is no need to merge | 20:52 |
| ildikov | shouldn't be that complicated | 20:52 |
| ildikov | kmARC: instructions go to the same web page | 20:53 |
| ildikov | kmARC: I mean get published to one web page | 20:53 |
| kmARC | What do you mean? | 20:54 |
| ildikov | like info that we put up about the image | 20:54 |
| ildikov | how big it is, how to deploy and what to do with it | 20:55 |
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| ildikov | that gets linked to the training web page | 20:55 |
| kmARC | I see | 20:55 |
| ildikov | ideally at least, but we can look into how to organize the docs or maybe just have it as a readme and link in that one | 20:55 |
| diablo_rojo | 5 min warning | 20:56 |
| ildikov | I can look up how to create a new repo and then we can get back to it either on the channel or in a mail thread | 20:56 |
| ildikov | sounds good? | 20:57 |
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| kmARC | yupp | 20:57 |
| mpranjic | okido | 20:57 |
| ildikov | kmARC: cool, tnx | 20:57 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Agree that the documentation and links that go with it need to be better organized. | 20:57 |
| diablo_rojo | +1 for mail thread | 20:58 |
| ildikov | coolio, I think we're good with what's next | 20:58 |
| ildikov | will try to summarize the retrospective etherpad tomorrow | 20:59 |
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| ildikov | so throw there more thoughts/ideas today plz if you have any | 20:59 |
| ildikov | if there's anything else, let's continue on the channel :) | 20:59 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 21:00 |
| ildikov | thank you all! | 21:00 |
| ildikov | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 22 21:00:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| kmARC | o/ | 21:00 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you! | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-05-22-20.00.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-05-22-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_upstream_institute/2017/openstack_upstream_institute.2017-05-22-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
| mpranjic | bye :) | 21:02 |
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