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| berendt | #startmeeting docinstallteam | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 13:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is berendt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docinstallteam)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docinstallteam' | 13:01 |
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| berendt | #action berendt create review request to re-schedule the US/EU meeting like discussed on the mailinglist | 13:02 |
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| berendt | #endmeeting | 13:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 13:05:24 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docinstallteam/2016/docinstallteam.2016-01-12-13.01.html | 13:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docinstallteam/2016/docinstallteam.2016-01-12-13.01.txt | 13:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docinstallteam/2016/docinstallteam.2016-01-12-13.01.log.html | 13:05 |
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| PaulMurray | #startmeeting Nova Live Migration | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 14:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is PaulMurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova Live Migration)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_live_migration' | 14:00 |
| tdurakov | hi | 14:00 |
| andrearosa | hi | 14:00 |
| shaohe_feng | hi | 14:00 |
| PaulMurray | Hi all | 14:00 |
| PaulMurray | just wait around a minute to see if any else comes | 14:01 |
| davidgiluk | hi | 14:01 |
| eliqiao | o/ | 14:01 |
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| PaulMurray | The agenda is on the meeting page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaLiveMigration | 14:02 |
| jlanoux_ | o/ | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | I have been ill so I only got round to putting the agenda up a while ago | 14:02 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, could you add ci for agenda please | 14:03 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, yes, certainly | 14:03 |
| PaulMurray | In fact lets do that first | 14:03 |
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| PaulMurray | #topic CI | 14:03 |
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| tdurakov | current status: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252283/ | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | this patch add ceph for hook | 14:04 |
| tdurakov | review and merge needed | 14:04 |
| PaulMurray | #action ALL please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252283/ | 14:05 |
| eliqiao | seems all logic are in run_tests.sh, would that be better to split it out? | 14:06 |
| * PaulMurray the internet is being a little slow for me today | 14:06 | |
| tdurakov | eliqiao, sounds reasonable | 14:06 |
| tdurakov | eliqiao, check Sebastien comment also | 14:07 |
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| eliqiao | oh, gold, already version 73, I am so late | 14:07 |
| * eliqiao :(s/gold/god | 14:08 | |
| PaulMurray | I was going to mention this in the next topic: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227278/ failed the live migration CI | 14:08 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:08 |
| tdurakov | eliqiao, it could be splitted, Sebastien talking about reusing ceph from devstack/lib | 14:09 |
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| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray: its already fixed | 14:09 |
| eliqiao | tdurakov: cool. | 14:09 |
| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, was that the live migration job or the review at fault? | 14:09 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, what ps number? | 14:10 |
| PaulMurray | 25 | 14:10 |
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| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, from your comment: | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | I'm currently investigating it, but so far it looks like this fail is not related to my changes. Tests without NFS worked correctly: | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | tempest.api.compute.admin.test_live_migration.LiveBlockMigrationTestJSON.test_live_block_migration [66.216203s] ... ok | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | tempest.api.compute.admin.test_live_migration.LiveBlockMigrationTestJSON.test_live_block_migration_paused [19.978373s] ... ok | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | With NFS one test passed and another one failed: | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | tempest.api.compute.admin.test_live_migration.LiveBlockMigrationTestJSON.test_live_block_migration [15.971409s] ... FAILED | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | tempest.api.compute.admin.test_live_migration.LiveBlockMigrationTestJSON.test_live_block_migration_paused [18.673453s] ... ok | 14:11 |
| PaulMurray | Let's see the result on BLM with config drive patch | 14:12 |
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| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray: looks to me like it was a test issue, but Matt found another issue in another patch, no idea right now which one caused this | 14:12 |
| pkoniszewski | I can see in my environment that everything works fine now | 14:12 |
| pkoniszewski | so I pushed another patch | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | I saw that the config drive patch passed | 14:13 |
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| PaulMurray | so as we are discussing it..... | 14:13 |
| PaulMurray | #topic Priority reviews | 14:13 |
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| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, how is that series going? | 14:14 |
| PaulMurray | you got one merged | 14:14 |
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| pkoniszewski | There is one concern from Daniel, but its just naming issue in old dicts, I need to dump data and respond to his review | 14:15 |
| pkoniszewski | config drive patch is ready | 14:15 |
| PaulMurray | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/block-live-migrate-with-attached-volumes | 14:16 |
| PaulMurray | ok - we'll keep looking to review it | 14:16 |
| PaulMurray | The next one I wanted to call out was | 14:16 |
| PaulMurray | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/pause-vm-during-live-migration | 14:17 |
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| pkoniszewski | so I need to go through code carefuly to see how andrearosa's proposition would work | 14:17 |
| pkoniszewski | probably they are right and we can move logic down to drivers | 14:17 |
| andrearosa | pkoniszewski: feel free to ping me if my comments are not clear | 14:18 |
| pkoniszewski | my idea was to keep this at a high level (compute api) to be able to throw correct instance action | 14:18 |
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| pkoniszewski | this is async so there is no other option to notify about which action is taken at a lower level, or I don't know something about nova's notifications | 14:19 |
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| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray timed out :< | 14:23 |
| eliqiao | :( | 14:23 |
| pkoniszewski | let's move forward, not sure we will be able to finish the meeting or add links and so on | 14:24 |
| pkoniszewski | #topic Bugs | 14:24 |
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| pkoniszewski | nah, it doesn't listen :< | 14:24 |
| pkoniszewski | so just a kindly reminder that we are tracking bugs in etherpad - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:24 |
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| pkoniszewski | most of them need reviews | 14:25 |
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| eliqiao | yeah, hard work | 14:26 |
| pkoniszewski | there is a new series to deprecate migration flags config | 14:26 |
| kashyap | pkoniszewski: Randomly chiming in, yeah, it avoids a lot of confusion | 14:26 |
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| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: I see, Dansims gives +2 on them. | 14:26 |
| kashyap | Because, there are a lot of flags and tunables that libvirt allows, unless one really has tested all them, it's hard to remember which combination is suitable. | 14:27 |
| pkoniszewski | so every review right now is appreciated, we are getting close to midcycle, I believe that we will be able to work on some changes and merge some of them at the midcycle | 14:27 |
| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: seems they are all in high prority, get cores' eyes already. | 14:27 |
| pkoniszewski | kashyap: exactly, this series will remove a lot of confusions around LM configuration and will give nova more flexibility to configure it on correctly | 14:28 |
| pkoniszewski | a lot of patches are very close | 14:28 |
| kashyap | Yeah, the bug that triggered it all - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1441054 | 14:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441054 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live-migration --block-migrate fails with default libvirt flags" [Medium,Incomplete] - Assigned to Mathieu Rohon (mathieu-rohon) | 14:29 |
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| pkoniszewski | andrearosa: do you know what Paul wanted to say about midcycle? | 14:29 |
| kashyap | In the time the bug was reported, and now, the said issue seems to be fixed there. | 14:29 |
| pkoniszewski | it starts in a less than 2 weeks | 14:30 |
| andrearosa | pkoniszewski: nope he is not in the office, I guess he just want to start to discuss about some topics we want to put in the agenda for the meetup | 14:30 |
| pkoniszewski | okay, so here is the etherpad for midcycle - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-midcycle | 14:31 |
| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: thx, we should file something for LM | 14:32 |
| pkoniszewski | live migration will be discussed on Tuesday | 14:32 |
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| * andrearosa is trying to reach PaulMurray on different channels | 14:32 | |
| PaulMurray | Hi, am I back in? | 14:32 |
| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray: is bad | 14:32 |
| pkoniszewski | back * | 14:32 |
| pkoniszewski | sorry | 14:32 |
| pkoniszewski | :D | 14:32 |
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| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: will you attend mid-cycle? | 14:33 |
| PaulMurray | Seems I got disconnected | 14:33 |
| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray: we moved forward to midcycle, just started this topic and mentioned about etherpad | 14:33 |
| PaulMurray | cool | 14:33 |
| pkoniszewski | eliqiao: yes, I will participate | 14:33 |
| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: cool. | 14:34 |
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| PaulMurray | tdurakov, did you get your visa? | 14:34 |
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| tdurakov | PaulMurray, yep, will attend mid-cycle | 14:34 |
| PaulMurray | great - there's a reasonable turn out all round | 14:35 |
| PaulMurray | there will be several people who work on libvirt and qemu there | 14:35 |
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| PaulMurray | so its a good time to bring up anything needed there | 14:35 |
| tdurakov | great! | 14:35 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski, could we discuss your patch and ci failure after this meeting? | 14:36 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: sure! | 14:36 |
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| PaulMurray | There are a few virt layer items at the bottom of our eatherpad | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | please add there if there is anything that I haven't included | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | see: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-live-migration | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | Live Migration Libvirt / qemu Work Items | 14:37 |
| PaulMurray | This is to do with lining up work we may depend on in the future | 14:38 |
| PaulMurray | the people coming may be able to take some on | 14:38 |
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| PaulMurray | #topic open discussion | 14:39 |
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| PaulMurray | Anything anyone wants to discuss? | 14:39 |
| pkoniszewski | I see that there is series about deprecating migration flags in open discussion | 14:39 |
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| pkoniszewski | is owner of the series there? | 14:40 |
| PaulMurray | I don't think so | 14:40 |
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| PaulMurray | its markmc | 14:40 |
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| PaulMurray | pkoniszewski, did you follow the thread? | 14:42 |
| tdurakov | do we really need such constraint for operators? | 14:42 |
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| pkoniszewski | yes, I did | 14:42 |
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| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: what do you mean? | 14:43 |
| eliqiao | hiden flgs from admin | 14:43 |
| tdurakov | eliqiao, yep | 14:43 |
| pkoniszewski | well, I don't think that there is reason to expose all these flags that we currently expose to operators | 14:44 |
| pkoniszewski | we allow them, e.g., to misconfigure nova | 14:44 |
| eliqiao | I commented to have a log for flags. | 14:44 |
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| tdurakov | from my sight it should be enough to have warning in logs | 14:44 |
| eliqiao | markmc told it's hard to convert from bit to string.. and also havs warings.. | 14:44 |
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| eliqiao | tdurakov: hmm.. that would be not easy to findout all flags | 14:45 |
| tdurakov | e.x. what about post-copy mode for live-migration? | 14:45 |
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| pkoniszewski | depends how it will impact performance of different workloads | 14:46 |
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| pkoniszewski | imo there should be another way to trigger post copy live migration, but I don't know much about its impact yet | 14:46 |
| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: What would you like to know | 14:46 |
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| eliqiao | Add a new switch flag to indicate to use post-copy or not, that what I can image onl. | 14:46 |
| PaulMurray | ok - got back in | 14:46 |
| tdurakov | pkoniszewski, afair we need to provide flag | 14:47 |
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| tdurakov | so if wee hide flags from operator - we need to provide some flag in cli/rest-api | 14:47 |
| tdurakov | do we really need this?) | 14:47 |
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| PaulMurray | #chair andrearosa | 14:47 |
| openstack | Current chairs: PaulMurray andrearosa | 14:47 |
| eliqiao | ops. a new REST api ? | 14:48 |
| pkoniszewski | eliqiao: just a flag | 14:48 |
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| tdurakov | eliqiao, if there is no way to change flags you need to change api | 14:48 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: I just don't know in which case you would want to trigger only post-copy live migrations | 14:48 |
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| pkoniszewski | I'm not a fan of all these static configurations in nova.conf | 14:48 |
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| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: add new options to live-migration CLI to passing flags, it make some scense to me. | 14:49 |
| pkoniszewski | they are way too static for different kind of workloads and different sizes of VMs | 14:49 |
| tdurakov | eliqiao, yep, new options | 14:49 |
| tdurakov | but we recently going to remove disk-over-commit option from cli, no? | 14:50 |
| eliqiao | tdurakov: cool, that's a good suggestion I think, (but maybe some one will say we don't need to expose low level details) | 14:50 |
| pkoniszewski | its not used anymore afaik | 14:50 |
| eliqiao | tdurakov: yeah, that's what I am working on | 14:50 |
| tdurakov | it looks inconsistent imho | 14:51 |
| tdurakov | to hide one flag and then add new one | 14:51 |
| pkoniszewski | davidgiluk: I would like to know how post-copy affects databases and comparison to pre-copy | 14:51 |
| tdurakov | but yes, this need to be discussed more | 14:51 |
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| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: OK, PM for a discussion about performance and stuff, but the 'howto use' it is you must select it before the start of migration | 14:52 |
| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: The simple answer is that with postcopy the migration always completes, irrespective of the workload | 14:52 |
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| eliqiao | davidgiluk: do you konw the progress post-copy migration supported in libivrt, I don't find any patch about it. | 14:53 |
| pkoniszewski | that's true, it ends in a finite time | 14:53 |
| tdurakov | davidgiluk, tradeoff is no way to rollback it, right? | 14:53 |
| eliqiao | yes, can not revert | 14:53 |
| davidgiluk | eliqiao: jdenemar is currently tidying it up for posting, I need to sort out a couple of things for him on the qemu side | 14:53 |
| PaulMurray | also slower vm if have to fetch | 14:53 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: yes, and in case of network failure you will need to reboot VM | 14:53 |
| PaulMurray | alot | 14:53 |
| davidgiluk | tdurakov: Right, once it's in postcopy mode you can't abandon the migrate since the destination has started writing to disk and sending packets etc | 14:53 |
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| davidgiluk | PaulMurray: Right, although normally the postcopy phase is only a short part of it, so that finishes pretty quickly | 14:54 |
| eliqiao | davidgiluk: seems we are far away to support post-migration since it's not merged in libvirt yet? | 14:55 |
| tdurakov | from my sight post-copy is one of examples where we need to decide, re we going to hide flags from conf and add extra cli/api params, or leave conf as-is | 14:56 |
| davidgiluk | eliqiao: not merged in libvirt yet, but reasonably close; there's also a demo that Umea uni have of an implementation on openstack | 14:56 |
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| pkoniszewski | eliqiao: per my discussion with Daniel its very close and it's real to get it done in N/O-release of OpenStack | 14:56 |
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| eliqiao | pkoniszewski: do you mean in libvirt? | 14:57 |
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| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: we can just say in nova.conf that all live migrations will be post-copy or all live migrations will be pre-copy | 14:57 |
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| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: it's way too static | 14:57 |
| davidgiluk | pkoniszewski: Yeh that's way too static | 14:57 |
| pkoniszewski | tdurakov: so I strongly prefer to remove these flags from nova.conf, we need better approach | 14:57 |
| andrearosa | pkoniszewski: you meant we can't | 14:57 |
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| pkoniszewski | andrearosa: yes, I meant that we can :D | 14:58 |
| pkoniszewski | can't... | 14:58 |
| tdurakov | :) | 14:58 |
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| andrearosa | ok, thanks | 14:58 |
| eliqiao | almost done, sorry to interupt, can anyone help to review this topic #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/making-live-migration-api-friendly | 14:58 |
| PaulMurray | We are coming to the end of time | 14:58 |
| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray: just one more question | 14:58 |
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| PaulMurray | yes | 14:58 |
| pkoniszewski | PaulMurray: will we discuss LM agenda for midcycle before midcycle? | 14:58 |
| eliqiao | PaulMurray: that one is not discuess last week(I missed), just hight light | 14:58 |
| pkoniszewski | like, next week or on a mailing list? | 14:58 |
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| PaulMurray | I tried to discuss it today when I got dropped | 14:59 |
| PaulMurray | I'll put an eatherpad link on the live migration link | 14:59 |
| PaulMurray | and we can list items there | 15:00 |
| PaulMurray | then go over next week | 15:00 |
| PaulMurray | sound ok? | 15:00 |
| PaulMurray | I'll send an email | 15:00 |
| pkoniszewski | sounds good! | 15:00 |
| pkoniszewski | thanks | 15:00 |
| PaulMurray | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| shaohe_feng | pkoniszewski: is there a config sample with optimal options config that suits to most common live migration scenario? | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 15:00:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-01-12-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-01-12-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_live_migration/2016/nova_live_migration.2016-01-12-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| PaulMurray | sorry, time to stop - bye everyone | 15:00 |
| PaulMurray | I will try to get a better connection next tiem | 15:01 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting stable | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 15:01:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| ttx | o/ | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stable' | 15:01 |
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| mriedem | hi, who is all here (besides ttx)? | 15:01 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 15:01 |
| mriedem | mtreinish: tonyb? | 15:02 |
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| * ihrachys attends two meetings, can lag | 15:02 | |
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| mriedem | i'll give it another minute or so | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | I can lurk if that is helpful to numbers | 15:03 |
| mriedem | it does | 15:03 |
| anteaya | yay | 15:03 |
| mriedem | well let's just get started | 15:03 |
| * anteaya is useful today | 15:03 | |
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| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StableTeam | 15:03 |
| mriedem | #topic status | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | periodic-stable failures http://goo.gl/5qiw2U | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | there are really just 2 issues with those | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | 1. neutron-*aas jobs aren't getting the branch set in the periodic-stable jobs properly | 15:04 |
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| mriedem | ihrachys: proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245525/ and tonyb is picking it up | 15:04 |
| ihrachys | tonyb++ | 15:04 |
| mriedem | 2. ceilomer dsvm job is having issues setting the branch for gnocchi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264769/ | 15:05 |
| mriedem | gordc is playing d-g whack a mole with that one | 15:05 |
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| mriedem | basically, d-g is trying to clone stable/liberty gnocchi which doesn't exist, so he has to override the branch that d-g pulls for that job | 15:05 |
| mriedem | i'm hoping sdague and mtreinish can review that one | 15:05 |
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| mriedem | that's it for the periodic-stable jobs | 15:05 |
| ttx | the dashboard shows horizon issues as well ? | 15:06 |
| mriedem | the openstack-health one? | 15:06 |
| mriedem | oh, that was last week | 15:06 |
| ttx | no the link you pointed us to | 15:06 |
| ttx | oh ok | 15:06 |
| mriedem | yeah, last week was the kilo + liberty fubar | 15:06 |
| mriedem | where horizon wouldn't install in dsvm on kilo | 15:06 |
| mriedem | which broke all of kilo dsvm and liberty grenade jobs | 15:06 |
| mriedem | that was fixed last week | 15:06 |
| mriedem | i should probably adjust that logstash link to 2 days rather than 7 maybe | 15:07 |
| sdague | mriedem: I just approved it, I do think that the gnocchi story here tells a more important release concept that mixing independent release components with integrated release components just makes for pain | 15:07 |
| anteaya | sing it | 15:07 |
| mriedem | well | 15:08 |
| mriedem | big tent everyone releases on their own schedule, so theoretically this should be fine right? | 15:08 |
| sdague | as long as they don't want to have linked jobs | 15:08 |
| mriedem | gnocchi is a library isn't it? | 15:08 |
| sdague | it's the linked jobs that's the issue | 15:08 |
| mriedem | yeah | 15:08 |
| mriedem | i guess if ceilometer just pulled down a pip of gnocchi from pypi then it wouldn't be a problem | 15:09 |
| ttx | sdague: maybe we should make that more obvious in the doc where we explain both choices | 15:09 |
| sdague | so you can work like a library and install from pypi | 15:09 |
| sdague | and that's fine | 15:09 |
| ttx | like in the project team guide | 15:09 |
| anteaya | I think this may be a gap where the theory of the big tent and the reality of what people with with it causes issues | 15:09 |
| sdague | but co-gating is not | 15:09 |
| mriedem | anyone want an action for a doc update? | 15:09 |
| sdague | and even our libraries have stable/* branches | 15:09 |
| * mriedem is not sure where that is | 15:09 | |
| ttx | anteaya: the consequences of choice are not always well explained | 15:09 |
| ttx | (yet) | 15:09 |
| anteaya | or understood as well make up the rules | 15:10 |
| sdague | so I think anything out of openstack that has branches needs a stable/liberty branch | 15:10 |
| anteaya | s/well/we | 15:10 |
| sdague | I think that's the thing that we missed before | 15:10 |
| mriedem | sdague: or has to be installed from pypi | 15:10 |
| anteaya | I don't mind taking an action item for a patch to the project team guide but it will need heavy review as I don't know what it should say | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | but I'll kick it off | 15:11 |
| ttx | sdague: interesting... would you mind raising a thread about that once you have it formalized ? I'd like us to discuss that a bit more | 15:11 |
| mriedem | i will gladly assign an action to someone here | 15:11 |
| ttx | anteaya: we need to get to the bottom of what that means first | 15:11 |
| anteaya | understood | 15:11 |
| anteaya | I agree clarity is helpful | 15:12 |
| sdague | ttx: I've got a few other hard problems on my plate right now, this is just something I've been mulling as I've watched this gnocchi review hit various brick walls | 15:12 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to talk to ppl about co-gating and what that means for big tent and projects with branches and w/o, like ceilometer + gnocchi | 15:12 |
| mriedem | i also wonder how that has implications for lifeless' spec that is part of a longer term goal to remove stable branches | 15:13 |
| mriedem | or i thought it was | 15:13 |
| mriedem | but we can get into that later | 15:13 |
| ttx | I mean, I'm open for limiting the choices there, I just want us to think a bit more about it before we announce anything | 15:13 |
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| sdague | yeh, that's fair. I think there are 2 modes we know are good | 15:13 |
| anteaya | the choices already are limited, we just need to inform folks | 15:14 |
| anteaya | people can't test anything with everything else | 15:14 |
| sdague | you don't have branches, you release from master, and support all supported stable branches with your master | 15:14 |
| sdague | see: tempest | 15:14 |
| anteaya | neutron drivers on independant release have run into this | 15:14 |
| mriedem | nothing depends on tempest though, | 15:14 |
| sdague | you release with branches, and have a branch that's appropriate for the official release branches | 15:14 |
| mriedem | so in this example, gnocchi is tempest | 15:14 |
| ttx | sdague: sounds fair | 15:15 |
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| sdague | mriedem: lets say python-novaclient then | 15:15 |
| mriedem | which has branches :) | 15:15 |
| sdague | it does now | 15:15 |
| sdague | part of the problem is we used to actually have this model, then capping forced a lot of new branches, then people thought they could do anything they wanted with branches | 15:16 |
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| mriedem | if ceilometer depends on gnocchi as a library, i'm not really sure why it's not just installing it via pypi | 15:16 |
| mriedem | at whatever version it needs | 15:16 |
| mriedem | gnocchi can have master and support all stable if it wants | 15:17 |
| sdague | yeh, I don't know | 15:17 |
| ttx | feels like a discussion for the release team anyway | 15:17 |
| mriedem | i'll also follow up with gordc and jd i suppose | 15:17 |
| apevec | mriedem, it cannot b/c of deps on master might be too new for older branches | 15:17 |
| ttx | if it has too many common deps it should probably follow the cycle basically | 15:18 |
| mriedem | apevec: i'm saying ceilometer wouldn't depend on master gnochi | 15:18 |
| mriedem | ceilometer needs to depend on a version of gnocchi that is constrained by upper-constraints | 15:18 |
| mriedem | in each stable branch of ceilometer | 15:18 |
| mriedem | and if gnocchi does a backwards incompatible thing, then it's breaking backwards compat and we either have to cap it or revert that breaking change | 15:19 |
| mriedem | which gets into lifeless' spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ | 15:19 |
| mriedem | that would also mean that the requirements repo changes would have to be gated on ceilometer, which they aren't today, but that gets into more details than we want here | 15:20 |
| mriedem | shall we move off this topic? | 15:20 |
| ttx | yes | 15:20 |
| mriedem | ok | 15:20 |
| mriedem | ttx: Remaining stable/kilo (coordinated) point releases | 15:20 |
| ttx | So... Starting with liberty we do separated, on-demand stable point releases | 15:20 |
| ttx | But we still have a few coordinated point releases to do for kilo | 15:21 |
| apevec | gnocchi is actually a service, ceilo depends only on gnocchiclient | 15:21 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranchRelease#Rinse.2C_Repeat | 15:21 |
| ttx | 2015.1.3 January, 2016 | 15:21 |
| ttx | 2015.1.4 (eol) 2016-05-02 | 15:21 |
| ttx | Daviey (in a private thread with apevec and me) proposed to handle both | 15:21 |
| mriedem | way to be not open :) | 15:21 |
| mriedem | sheesh | 15:21 |
| mriedem | i'm fine with that | 15:22 |
| ttx | indeed, but since he volunteered I forgave him | 15:22 |
| ttx | It would be great to go through the release process and check what still applies | 15:22 |
| ttx | Also check if the needed tooling is still available, since we did remove some tools from release-tools recently | 15:22 |
| ttx | So I'll contact him and check we still have all ducks in row | 15:22 |
| ttx | #action ttx to go through the stable release process with Daviey to doublecheck tooling | 15:22 |
| mriedem | cool | 15:23 |
| apevec | mriedem, my fault, I started that offlist thread from juno EOL announcement | 15:23 |
| mriedem | ttx: anything else on that item? | 15:23 |
| apevec | ttx, couldn't we use part of new tooling, just for pushing tags? | 15:23 |
| mriedem | kilo is pretty stable atm | 15:23 |
| ttx | It's good to have a volunteer for the last 2, so that nobody else has to dive into old process | 15:23 |
| ttx | apevec: that is what I want to figure out | 15:24 |
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| anteaya | yay kilo is ~stable | 15:24 |
| ttx | mriedem: I'm done with this topic | 15:24 |
| mriedem | ttx: Stable team tags: moving from has-stable-branches to follows-stable-policy ? | 15:24 |
| ttx | unless there are questions | 15:24 |
| ttx | OK; so... We currently have one tag to describe /some/ stable branch support: | 15:24 |
| ttx | #link http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/release_has-stable-branches.html | 15:24 |
| ttx | The problem is... this tag is a bit overloaded and doesn't really mean anything useful anymore | 15:25 |
| ttx | Any project can set up stable branches now, they can even name them stable/$series | 15:25 |
| ttx | they don't have to follow the policy or even add us to their $project-stable-maint teams | 15:25 |
| ttx | So I'd like to propose we retire this now-useless tag and replace it by something more useful | 15:25 |
| ttx | The way to think about it is in terms of answering a question that downstream users have | 15:25 |
| ttx | In our domain I think what they want to know is which projects have "stable branches that they can rely on" | 15:25 |
| ttx | i.e. which projects follow the stable branch policy, as defined and checked by the stable team | 15:26 |
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| anteaya | do we have a tag that identifies if a project interacts with the release team, in a follows their guidance kind of way? | 15:26 |
| ttx | So I'd like us to propose a stable:follows-policy tag, which would be granted by the stable team: | 15:26 |
| ttx | anteaya: we have release:managed, but that means somethign different. It's also non-optional to release so basically all projects need to follow | 15:26 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:27 |
| ttx | - as long as we are confident they are following the policy | 15:27 |
| ttx | - once we are added to their stable +2 team | 15:27 |
| ttx | then we would apply stable:follows-policy | 15:27 |
| ttx | basically using the tag as the carrot for following the common stable policy | 15:27 |
| ttx | and using tag removal as the stick to encourage outliers to better comply | 15:27 |
| ttx | how does that sound ? | 15:27 |
| anteaya | what is the criteria for removal? | 15:27 |
| mriedem | backporting and merging things that are against the stable policy | 15:28 |
| mriedem | like features or api changes | 15:28 |
| anteaya | it is the removal part we seem to have the hardest part with | 15:28 |
| ttx | anteaya: "project does not follow stable branch policy" ? | 15:28 |
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| ttx | If that sounds like a good idea I can draft a tag definition | 15:28 |
| mriedem | i have no problem with removal if someone continually gets caught breaking policy (like more than once as a mistake) | 15:28 |
| mriedem | it's hard to police given there are so many | 15:28 |
| anteaya | mriedem: that's the issue | 15:29 |
| ttx | that we would review as a team before proposing it to the tc | 15:29 |
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| mriedem | so really someone has to speak up and say project x backported and merged a thing which broke my production cloud - which rarely happens | 15:29 |
| ttx | Just wanted a temperature reading from the team before I get started | 15:29 |
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| mriedem | or some projects CI would have to start failing | 15:29 |
| anteaya | mriedem: right | 15:29 |
| mriedem | ttx: i'm all for this | 15:29 |
| ttx | NB: I would limit the tag to stable branches that track common stable series (like stable/liberty) | 15:29 |
| mriedem | it's just the oversight that's hard | 15:29 |
| anteaya | mriedem: yes | 15:29 |
| mrunge | wow, that quite hard to decide | 15:29 |
| ttx | rather than also apply it to project-specific branches (like stable/1.0) | 15:30 |
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| mrunge | how often did we saw some bad backports, breaking compatibility? | 15:30 |
| mriedem | mrunge: that's the thing, you don't really at a global level | 15:30 |
| mriedem | especially if no one speaks up in irc or the ML if it happens | 15:30 |
| mrunge | But yes, I agree, we should encourage folks to look at that | 15:30 |
| ttx | mrunge: some projects just don't backport bugfixes | 15:30 |
| mrunge | Ideally, we would have more test coverage | 15:31 |
| ttx | it's fine, they just won't have the tag | 15:31 |
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| ttx | since downstream users should know their stable branches are mostly worthless | 15:31 |
| mriedem | i guess i wasn't thinking about whether or not they are backporting bug fixes | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | mrunge: I often catch those in neutron | 15:31 |
| ihrachys | I mean, I block them :) | 15:32 |
| mriedem | since if you consider the number of bugs fixed in nova per master release vs how many get backported (which are applicable), it's a drop in the bucket | 15:32 |
| mrunge | ihrachys, yes, that's greatly appreciated | 15:32 |
| ttx | I mean, it's a significant piece of information to communicate downstream, and currently it is quite hard to determine | 15:32 |
| mriedem | yeah | 15:32 |
| ttx | and the current tag hides it completely | 15:32 |
| mriedem | rather than bugs, it's probably just easier now to see if they are doing stable point releases | 15:32 |
| ihrachys | mriedem: in neutron, we backport everything applicable to N-1 | 15:32 |
| ttx | One remaining question though is whether we would allow "late" stable branches to have the tag | 15:32 |
| ttx | things that are release:independent because they can't make the release date, but still want to have a branch called stable/liberty | 15:32 |
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| ttx | like fuel | 15:33 |
| anteaya | or can they make a stable/liberty branch in the middle of mitaka | 15:33 |
| ttx | or some neutron stadium things | 15:33 |
| anteaya | which someone wanted to do the other day | 15:33 |
| mriedem | we've created stable/juno branches on things after the fact, when we needed to backport something | 15:33 |
| sdague | why is it an issue to post date releases? | 15:33 |
| ttx | my gut feeling is that those should be outside policy but meh | 15:33 |
| mriedem | chef cookbooks cut stable branches long after master is released too | 15:34 |
| anteaya | cut or create? | 15:34 |
| mriedem | they cut their mitaka release a few months after mitaka is released in the code projects | 15:34 |
| anteaya | or does the difference matter? | 15:34 |
| ttx | sdague: we are basically communicating: "those projects have sane stable branches" | 15:34 |
| mriedem | b/c the cookbooks are stabilizing the release | 15:34 |
| ttx | I think part of being sane is to have them created around the same time | 15:34 |
| sdague | yeh, I think we need to realize that stable/liberty is a convenience concept to users of stuff that is going to all work in liberty | 15:34 |
| ttx | so that you can follow through them as a user | 15:34 |
| anteaya | mriedem: that makes sense due to their work | 15:34 |
| anteaya | ttx: I agree, created dates need to be in the release in question | 15:35 |
| ttx | but as I said I don't feel strongly about this | 15:35 |
| mriedem | i agree with sdague, the branch is there to indicate it works with the liberty releaes of the code | 15:35 |
| sdague | ttx: I guess, all the orgs I know that are deploying from stable don't do so until + 4 months or so | 15:35 |
| mriedem | as long as they are following the stable branch policy, i don't really care when they create the branch | 15:35 |
| ttx | sdague: ok, I can leave that out of the definition | 15:35 |
| mriedem | there are some projects that i think still have active stable/icehouse branches, fwiw :) | 15:35 |
| ttx | I think I have enough to start drafting | 15:36 |
| anteaya | but it may affect their ability to test that branch | 15:36 |
| mriedem | anteaya: sure, like stable/icehouse | 15:36 |
| anteaya | right | 15:36 |
| mriedem | but yeah, let's review in the review when that's up | 15:36 |
| anteaya | I think that needs to be identified | 15:36 |
| mriedem | moving on | 15:36 |
| sdague | it might be worth tagging projects that get a stable branch out at release date, those that hit it within 2 months, and those which show up later | 15:36 |
| mriedem | ttx: Liberty stable point releases status: do we need to push for some releases ? | 15:36 |
| ttx | #action ttx to draft a stable:follows-policy tag definition for the team to discuss | 15:36 |
| ttx | So for liberty we said that projects would just request stable point releases themselves | 15:36 |
| ttx | Most did, but some may need some encouragement/reminder | 15:36 |
| ttx | I think regular releases are important to make our stable branches look better | 15:37 |
| mrunge | yes! | 15:37 |
| ttx | so I think it's still the stable team responsibility to track that releases are regularly made | 15:37 |
| mriedem | yes, i've been pushing on the nova one | 15:37 |
| ttx | For liberty the following projects did not make a release since liberty release: | 15:37 |
| mriedem | we have a security fix that has to get in first | 15:37 |
| ttx | barbican, congress, designate, heat, horizon, mistral, nova, sahara, trove, zaqar | 15:37 |
| ttx | swift and aodh haven't released either but since they are doing intermediary releases that is not as needed imho | 15:37 |
| ttx | Some of them just didn't have that much stable activity, like barbican, congress, trove or zaqar | 15:37 |
| ttx | (might be worth checking if they really are following stable branch policy and backporting "enough" changes, but that is another topic) | 15:37 |
| ttx | Some of them have 34+ changes and should really be doing a point release: Heat, Mistral, Nova, Sahara | 15:38 |
| ttx | Some have 17+ and should consider one: Designate, Horizon | 15:38 |
| ttx | So in summary I think we should regularly review this and have someone assigned to the nagging | 15:38 |
| ttx | I'm happy to take the first round | 15:38 |
| mrunge | horizon has probably more, including i18n updates, which are quite big | 15:38 |
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| mriedem | ttx: thanks for pulling the numbers, i agree we have to stay on top of it, i've been busy trying to get the nova one ready | 15:39 |
| ttx | probably some automated way of figuring out how much they need a release would be nice too | 15:39 |
| mriedem | so i'd appreciate it if you want to own that first round of nagging | 15:39 |
| ttx | Yeah I'll own it, figure out what metrics we should track there | 15:39 |
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| mriedem | well i think we know after you've backported security fixes, you should release | 15:39 |
| ttx | then we can review that regularly, say once every ~ 6 weeks or so | 15:40 |
| mriedem | in the case of nova, we really didn't start talking about it until some regression fixes were backported | 15:40 |
| mriedem | from my pov, it's going to be hard to just look at what's been backported to e.g. zaqar and know if they need something | 15:40 |
| mriedem | there could be 20 piddly backports or 2 critical backports | 15:40 |
| ttx | yeah that should not prevent releasing more aggressively | 15:40 |
| mriedem | sure | 15:41 |
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| mriedem | we could probably have some tooling that scrapes the bug priority too | 15:41 |
| ttx | it's just that before liberty we had the safety net of the catch-all coordinated release | 15:41 |
| mriedem | and flag if there are critical bugs backported that aren't yet released | 15:41 |
| ihrachys | ttx: I think oslo team should have some scripts they use to track unreleased changes | 15:41 |
| ttx | yeah, I was thinking going from that | 15:41 |
| ttx | anyway another action for me | 15:42 |
| dims | ./list_unreleased_changes.sh in release-tools repo | 15:42 |
| ttx | #action ttx to do the first stable release nagging round | 15:42 |
| apevec | should CVE fix trigger point release? | 15:42 |
| ttx | apevec: yes | 15:42 |
| mriedem | apevec: yeah | 15:42 |
| apevec | Nova had one right? | 15:42 |
| mriedem | apevec: yes, the backports are being reviewed and then we'll do 12.0.1 | 15:42 |
| ttx | (for stable/liberty only) | 15:42 |
| ttx | alright that is all I had | 15:43 |
| mriedem | ttx: to get the list that haven't released yet, where did you come up with that? the releases repo? | 15:43 |
| apevec | ttx, there was a thread from zigo about stable horizon supporint latest django ? | 15:43 |
| ttx | mriedem: and some hand count on git logs | 15:44 |
| zigo | apevec: Hi! | 15:44 |
| apevec | zigo, hi - why do you want django 1.9 ? | 15:44 |
| apevec | 1.8 is their LTS | 15:44 |
| zigo | I've wrote lots of patches for Django 1.9 in Horizon already. | 15:44 |
| ttx | apevec: not related to my topic, but yes | 15:44 |
| mriedem | apevec: we had to cap django_compressor in stable/kilo horizon last week b/c the latest release drops support for django<1.8 | 15:44 |
| zigo | apevec: Debian Sid already has Django 1.9. | 15:44 |
| zigo | So there's an RC bug filled. | 15:44 |
| zigo | I need to have it fixed. | 15:44 |
| apevec | mrunge said 1.8 is better choice | 15:45 |
| zigo | Also, Horizon in Mitaka will need to support Django 1.9, as most likely, it's going to be the version in the next LTS. | 15:45 |
| apevec | 1.9 will be out of support soon | 15:45 |
| zigo | Better or not, we need to move forward and support the latest version. | 15:45 |
| mrunge | django-1.9 won't be the next LTS version | 15:45 |
| mrunge | it's 1.8 | 15:45 |
| ttx | feels like debian bet on the wrong horse then | 15:46 |
| zigo | Well, anyway, I need to fix https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=809575 | 15:47 |
| openstack | Debian bug 809575 in src:horizon "horizon: FTBFS: ImportError: cannot import name importlib" [Serious,Open] | 15:47 |
| zigo | ttx: Debian Sid is always on the edge. | 15:47 |
| ttx | zigo: someone will have some fun backporting 1.8 sec fixes to 1.9 in 2017 | 15:47 |
| zigo | Also, remember that the packages for Django are maintained in Debian, and just sync to Ubuntu. | 15:47 |
| mrunge | zigo has a point, as we don't even support Django-1.9 right now in mitaka | 15:47 |
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| ttx | but yeah, I think that's orthogonal to the issue at hand | 15:48 |
| zigo | mrunge: I really hope that my patches will be accepted when I send them (of course, without destroying 1.8 compat). | 15:48 |
| zigo | As much as I know, no problem with that so far. | 15:48 |
| mrunge | zigo, I would prefer, if you'd file bugs in launchpad about that | 15:48 |
| zigo | I did couples of django.getversion() calls when needed. | 15:49 |
| ttx | we'll need to support >=1.8 anyway | 15:49 |
| mrunge | I would like see fixes backported to liberty as well | 15:49 |
| mrunge | just making horizon work in more environments | 15:49 |
| zigo | As I wrote to you in #openstack-horizon, I prefer to finish the work first, and make sure nothing is broken, before attempting to upstream my work. | 15:49 |
| zigo | Timur S. wrote to me he will try to help tomorrow as well. | 15:49 |
| mrunge | I was just asking to document issues, just to be able to track them | 15:50 |
| zigo | Well, the issue is that when you fix one issue, it uncovers another one. | 15:50 |
| mrunge | and I'm really glad you're trying to fix those issues | 15:50 |
| zigo | So it's impossible to document all until all is kind of fixed. | 15:50 |
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| mrunge | yes, sure. but still we can track it then | 15:50 |
| mrunge | we should have a tracker for django-1.9 support anyways | 15:51 |
| mrunge | makes sense? | 15:51 |
| mriedem | can we move this to -horizon? | 15:51 |
| zigo | I'll do things properly and file bugs. | 15:51 |
| mrunge | we already had the same discussion | 15:51 |
| zigo | It's just too early for that right now, IMO. | 15:51 |
| mrunge | and agreed to disagree | 15:51 |
| mrunge | ;-) | 15:51 |
| zigo | :) | 15:51 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 15:51 |
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| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda | 15:51 |
| mriedem | does anyone have anything else for today? | 15:51 |
| mriedem | ok, well let's end the meeting, thanks everyone | 15:52 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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| anteaya | mriedem: just that you had tried to time these meetings as opposite to neutron | 15:52 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 15:52:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-01-12-15.01.html | 15:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-01-12-15.01.txt | 15:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stable/2016/stable.2016-01-12-15.01.log.html | 15:52 |
| anteaya | mriedem: and neutron has changed their meeting time | 15:52 |
| mrunge | thanks everyone | 15:52 |
| mriedem | anteaya: ? | 15:52 |
| mriedem | so the neutron meeting is the same time as this one now? | 15:52 |
| anteaya | today yes, becuause yesterday was a disaster trying to communicate a change | 15:53 |
| anteaya | so now it will be mondays all the time | 15:53 |
| mriedem | so there isn't a problem? | 15:53 |
| anteaya | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266019/ | 15:53 |
| anteaya | mriedem: no no problem, just I recall you had said that in passing when you picked times for stable meetings | 15:54 |
| anteaya | mriedem: so I wanted to inform you of the change | 15:54 |
| mriedem | so neutron meetings are always monday at 2100 UTC | 15:54 |
| mriedem | and there is a bi-weekly odd stable meeting at that same time | 15:54 |
| mriedem | meh | 15:54 |
| mriedem | there are a lot of meetings | 15:54 |
| anteaya | yeah | 15:55 |
| mriedem | unless you want 4pm on a friday | 15:55 |
| anteaya | so now you know | 15:55 |
| anteaya | I don't | 15:55 |
| mriedem | me neither | 15:55 |
| anteaya | #agreed | 15:55 |
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| devkulkarni | #startmeeting Solum Team Meeting | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 17:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devkulkarni. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'solum_team_meeting' | 17:00 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Roll Call | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Solum Team Meeting)" | 17:00 | |
| devkulkarni | Devdatta Kulkarni | 17:00 |
| vijendar | o/ | 17:00 |
| ashishjain | Ashish Jain | 17:00 |
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| james_li | james li | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | please feel free to provide your name to get registered as an attendee for the meeting | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | hi james_li, ashishjain, vijendar | 17:01 |
| james_li | Hi devkulkarni | 17:01 |
| devkulkarni | we have a new contributor today rahulshr_ | 17:02 |
| rahulshr_ | Rahul Shrivastava | 17:02 |
| vijendar | Hi devkulkarni and all | 17:02 |
| james_li | welcome rahulshr_ | 17:02 |
| dimtruck | o/ | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | hi rahulshr_: welcome to solum | 17:02 |
| devkulkarni | hi dimtruck | 17:02 |
| rahulshr_ | Hi james_li | 17:02 |
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| devkulkarni | rahulshr_: do you want to introduce yourself to the team.. a couple of lines about what your background and what interests you in solum will be great | 17:03 |
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| rahulshr_ | sure.. | 17:03 |
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| rahulshr_ | I have around 6 years of exp in various application dev, I have worked in Verizon, Oracle. Mostly I have used C/C++ and a bit of python for development | 17:05 |
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| devkulkarni | rahulshr_: nice!! | 17:06 |
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| devkulkarni | rahulshr_: we sure are going to benefit from your background in solum development | 17:06 |
| rahulshr_ | I saw few demo of openstack and got interested to contribute to it. | 17:06 |
| devkulkarni | rahulshr_: we are glad that one of the projects that interested you is solum | 17:07 |
| rahulshr_ | Since Solum is new may be I can contribute here easily.. | 17:07 |
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| devkulkarni | rahulshr_: yes, solum is relatively new as compared to other openstack projects | 17:07 |
| devkulkarni | in terms of lines of code we are < 30K lines of python code.. I don't know how big others are, but we are not that big that is sure | 17:08 |
| devkulkarni | rahulshr_: we look forward to your contributions | 17:08 |
| rahulshr_ | for now I am trying to deploy solum in our openstack multinode setup | 17:09 |
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| devkulkarni | rahulshr_: oh cool.. let us know how it goes | 17:09 |
| rahulshr_ | devkukarni: sure... | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | you might be able to contribute your findings to solum installation guide | 17:09 |
| devkulkarni | cool | 17:10 |
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| devkulkarni | alright.. here is the agenda for today's meeting: | 17:10 |
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| devkulkarni | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Solum#Agenda_for_2016-01-12_1700_UTC | 17:10 |
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| devkulkarni | #topic Announcements | 17:10 |
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| devkulkarni | #success Devstack plugin for Solum finally working as expected. | 17:10 |
| openstackstatus | devkulkarni: Added success to Success page | 17:10 |
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| devkulkarni | big thanks to dimtruck for helping with getting our devstack plugin straightened out | 17:11 |
| devkulkarni | to be more specific, the plugin is for the devstack gate | 17:11 |
| ashishjain | dimtruck thats nice | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | our devstack gate was failing since mid-December as the plugin was not working as expected | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | initial plugin code was contributed by venkatmaheshkotha | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | thanks to venkatmaheshkotha for that | 17:12 |
| devkulkarni | last week dimtruck went through deep weeds and figured out what was causing the plugin to not work as expected | 17:13 |
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| devkulkarni | any one have any other announcements? | 17:13 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. moving on to the next topic | 17:14 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Review Action Items | 17:14 |
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| devkulkarni | I have an action item pending on retiring solum readthedocs, but I have not listed it as I have been just carrying it forward for sometime now without actually making any progress on it | 17:15 |
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| devkulkarni | so I have removed it from the list.. I will provide an update once I figure it out | 17:15 |
| devkulkarni | apart from that there were no action items that we had identified last time | 17:16 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Blueprint/Bug Review and Discussion | 17:17 |
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| devkulkarni | I am going to switch order here a bit | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | 1) API/Service patches needing one more +2 | 17:17 |
| dimtruck | sorry to backpedal, devkulkarni but quick question | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | james_li: there are several patches which need one more +2 | 17:17 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: sure | 17:17 |
| dimtruck | what do you mean by retiring readthedocs? | 17:17 |
| dimtruck | do you mean removing it from the site or stop publishing to it? | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: good question | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | we want to retire this: http://solum.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ as it is no longer correct (and the jobs are not publishing to it) | 17:18 |
| james_li | devkulkarni: taking a quick look | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | we have already removed the job | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | thanks james_li | 17:18 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: but we need to figure out how to remove above site/link | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | it shows up in google searches | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | official solum documentation is at: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/solum/getting_started/index.html | 17:19 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: do you know what can we do to remove the readthedocs site? | 17:20 |
| dimtruck | looking too :) | 17:20 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: my guess is we might have to reach out to openstack-infra folks about this | 17:21 |
| dimtruck | it's owned by them?? | 17:21 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain, rahulshr_, dimtruck, vijendar: please review the patches that are needing one more +2 which I have listed in the meeting agenda | 17:21 |
| vijendar | sure | 17:22 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: well, I don't know if the site is owned by them or not, but they control the job that publishes the official docs (and also readthedocs job for projects that are not yet official) | 17:23 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni : sure | 17:23 |
| dimtruck | i see | 17:24 |
| dimtruck | ok, thank you | 17:24 |
| dimtruck | sorry for the tangent | 17:24 |
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| devkulkarni | dimtruck: no, its not a tangent.. if you have any insights/suggestions on this I would like to hear them | 17:25 |
| devkulkarni | the action item has been pending for some time now | 17:26 |
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| devkulkarni | lets take next 15 minutes to go through the patches that are needing one more +2 | 17:27 |
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| devkulkarni | btw, james_li is one of our core reviewers (having the +2 power) | 17:27 |
| devkulkarni | good to have him join us for the meeting today | 17:27 |
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| devkulkarni | you can find who all have +2 capabilities here: http://stackalytics.com/?module=solum-group | 17:28 |
| devkulkarni | folks who are core reviewers have a star besides their name | 17:29 |
| dimtruck | oh nice! | 17:29 |
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| devkulkarni | rahulshr_: here are the links to open solum patches: | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/solum+status:open,n,z | 17:32 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-solumclient+status:open,n,z | 17:33 |
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| rahulshr_ | devkulkarni: checking it | 17:33 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: about your tempest plugin patch.. what are the next steps? | 17:33 |
| dimtruck | 1. rebase | 17:34 |
| dimtruck | 2. update the tests to use dynamic credentials | 17:34 |
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| dimtruck | that should be it | 17:34 |
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| dimtruck | i should have a patch later this week ready for review | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | rahulshr_: cool.. you can bookmark those links | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: sounds good | 17:34 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: the dynamic creds would make it such that we don't have to setup users etc. that we currently do in post_gate_hook? | 17:35 |
| dimtruck | that is exactly correct | 17:35 |
| dimtruck | it has 2 advantages | 17:35 |
| dimtruck | 1. no longer having ti set up demo users | 17:35 |
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| dimtruck | 2. can run tests in parallel and not step on the same user's resources | 17:36 |
| dimtruck | it /might/ be that we still can't because of resource constraints on the test hosts but at least we'll have ability to do that. | 17:36 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: both those seem very useful things | 17:36 |
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| devkulkarni | dimtruck: I am assuming that we will be able to control whether or not we want to run tests in parallel, right? | 17:37 |
| dimtruck | that's correct | 17:37 |
| dimtruck | it's just a tox command | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | I see | 17:37 |
| dimtruck | with a regex for which tests to run and a parallel flag to control concurrency | 17:37 |
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| dimtruck | instead of running nose, we'll run tox | 17:37 |
| devkulkarni | dimtruck: I see.. | 17:37 |
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| devkulkarni | dimtruck: going back to the discussion about devstack plugin.. | 17:38 |
| devkulkarni | how does the plugin interface with our vagrant setup? any ideas? | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/rackerlabs/vagrant-solum-dev | 17:39 |
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| devkulkarni | in the vagrant setup we were basically copying over lib/solum and extras.d into the devstack directory | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | and then stack.sh was calling the hooks from lib/solum | 17:39 |
| devkulkarni | but with the plugin model since the lib/solum has been deprecated, we probably need to use the enable_plugin macro in the vagrant setup.. | 17:40 |
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| devkulkarni | https://github.com/rackerlabs/vagrant-solum-dev/blob/master/Vagrantfile#L310 | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | https://github.com/rackerlabs/vagrant-solum-dev/blob/master/Vagrantfile#L311 | 17:41 |
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| dimtruck | right | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | at least that is what I am thinking.. | 17:41 |
| dimtruck | i'll need to take a look closer at that... | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | what do you think? | 17:41 |
| devkulkarni | ok | 17:41 |
| dimtruck | it should be exactly the same as gate | 17:41 |
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| dimtruck | meaning that we just add those enable_plugin and $PROJECTS flags and the rest should work the same | 17:42 |
| devkulkarni | will it be? but we are not spinning up gate vm | 17:42 |
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| dimtruck | that's fine | 17:42 |
| dimtruck | all devstack-gate does is set up a bunch of jenkins envvars | 17:42 |
| dimtruck | and some other stuff...but mostly then calls stack.sh | 17:42 |
| dimtruck | which then uses plugins | 17:43 |
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| devkulkarni | that's right | 17:43 |
| dimtruck | essentially, they ripped out extras.d and replaced it with plugin arch so we should not have to do much work there | 17:43 |
| devkulkarni | may be all we need to do then is to add that enable_plugin line to the Vagrantfile | 17:43 |
| dimtruck | just make sure to not enable tempest since we don't want to run that :) | 17:43 |
| dimtruck | right | 17:43 |
| dimtruck | that's what i'm thinking | 17:43 |
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| devkulkarni | alright.. I will try that today | 17:44 |
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| devkulkarni | alright.. its quarter to noon.. I would like to move on to the next topic | 17:44 |
| devkulkarni | before I skip to the next topic, there are two other review items in the meeting agenda | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | 1) Release model change as suggested by ttx #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263294/ | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | We discussed about this last time.. | 17:45 |
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| devkulkarni | the deadline to change the release model is Jan 21st. We have submitted the patch above. | 17:45 |
| devkulkarni | there is nothing more that needs to be done | 17:46 |
| devkulkarni | 2) Micro-service architecture spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254729/ | 17:46 |
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| devkulkarni | Please take a look at the micro-service architecture spec above | 17:46 |
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| devkulkarni | At a high-level, this spec outlines how we can support multi-container apps in solum | 17:47 |
| devkulkarni | now that I think of it, I should have named the spec as 'multi-container app architecture' spec rather than micro-service architecture | 17:47 |
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| devkulkarni | I might change the name | 17:47 |
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| devkulkarni | please read it, review it, provide comments, ask questions, etc. | 17:47 |
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| devkulkarni | alright | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | #topic Open discussion | 17:48 |
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| devkulkarni | The main thing I wanted to discuss was the Austin summit | 17:48 |
| devkulkarni | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/ | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | talk submission deadline Talk submission: February 1, 2016 | 17:49 |
| devkulkarni | Travel support: February 9, 2016 (https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/austin-and-travel/#travel-support) | 17:49 |
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| devkulkarni | lets brainstorm possible talks that we can submit.. | 17:49 |
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| devkulkarni | dimtruck, vijendar, james_li, ashishjain: any thoughts/ideas on topics that we can submit for the summit? | 17:50 |
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| devkulkarni | ashishjain: if you have installed solum at wipro and are using it in some capacity, that can be a nice topic for the talk | 17:51 |
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| dimtruck | not from me yet :) | 17:52 |
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| devkulkarni | if we are able to push the multi-container work, then we can talk about deploying solum using solum | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | but we are not there yet | 17:52 |
| vijendar | how about solum with containers service (carina/magnum) | 17:52 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: +1 | 17:53 |
| devkulkarni | I was going to suggest that to you.. | 17:53 |
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| dimtruck | +1 from me on that too | 17:56 |
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| vijendar | and also how about solum as CI/CD? | 17:56 |
| dimtruck | if we can show CI/CD on multi-container deployment/re-deployment | 17:56 |
| dimtruck | great minds think alike vijendar ;) | 17:56 |
| vijendar | :) | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | sure, that can be another one | 17:57 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni: sure will try to submit one on the usecase | 17:57 |
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| devkulkarni | dimtruck: although, not on multi-container deployment/re-deployment | 17:57 |
| devkulkarni | since we won't be ready with multi-container till the deadline (Feb 1) | 17:57 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: but it will be ready by summbit…right? | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | but we can aim for CI/CD + non-destructive app updates with Magnum/Carina | 17:58 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: *summit | 17:58 |
| devkulkarni | vijendar: hopefully yess.. but I would not be very comfortable submitting the abstract without actually having it in working condition | 17:59 |
| vijendar | devkulkarni: sure | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | we can definitely demo multi-container if it is ready at the summit | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | thanks ashishjain | 17:59 |
| devkulkarni | ashishjain: let me know if I can help in any way with the submission. | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | looks like it is time to end the meeting | 18:00 |
| devkulkarni | lets keep on brainstorming about possible submission ideas over next couple of weeks | 18:00 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni sure | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | we should at least have 2 to 3 solum submissions | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | alright.. thanks vijendar, ashishjain, rahulshr_, james_li, dimtruck for joining today | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | see you all next week | 18:01 |
| ashishjain | devkulkarni thanks | 18:01 |
| devkulkarni | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 18:01:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-01-12-17.00.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-01-12-17.00.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/solum_team_meeting/2016/solum_team_meeting.2016-01-12-17.00.log.html | 18:01 |
| rahulshr_ | thanks devkulkarni | 18:02 |
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| briancurtin | #startmeeting python-openstacksdk | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 12 19:01:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is briancurtin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'python_openstacksdk' | 19:01 |
| etoews | o/ | 19:01 |
| rtheis_ | o/ | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | i don’t see terry in -sdks so perhaps it’s just us | 19:02 |
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| briancurtin | alrighty then. well, should probably just keep talking about how to get to 1.0 | 19:04 |
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| breton_ | o/ | 19:04 |
| etoews | yes please :) | 19:04 |
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| rtheis_ | sounds good | 19:05 |
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| etoews | what about setting a bit of an arbitrary deadline just to have something to work against? | 19:05 |
| briancurtin | the big thing i’m looking at right now is the whole path_args ordeal and how it’ll work with what needs to happen for URI props, body props, and header props. there’s a few things out there for that right now that i’m reviving but also looking at another way to do them. this is super hard. i’m slightly considering a reworking of the props to not be | 19:05 |
| briancurtin | descriptors, though i don’t know if that’s worth it | 19:05 |
| briancurtin | etoews: 90% of my year-end review was crushing myself over deadlines estimates | 19:06 |
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| briancurtin | after evaluating more of this, i’ll see if i can come up with some kind of deadline. until at least the basics of a direction are sketched out i don’t really want to throw anything out | 19:07 |
| etoews | alright then | 19:07 |
| etoews | what bugs does that work map to? | 19:07 |
| etoews | (the path_args ordeal that is) | 19:08 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: this is one of them https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1440257 | 19:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1440257 in OpenStack SDK "Resource props of type=resource cause issue with basepath" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:09 |
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| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:09 |
| etoews | yay! | 19:09 |
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| rtheis_ | Is this another https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1461200 ? | 19:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461200 in OpenStack SDK "Create resource.props type=Resource for attributes with _id names" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:09 |
| etoews | i see both of those are assigned to terrylhowe | 19:09 |
| briancurtin | rtheis_: that’s something we have to do but is mostly fine to just do right now. some more complex things will encounter the issue in …257 | 19:10 |
| terrylhowe | I have the pathargs stuff out there for that | 19:10 |
| terrylhowe | it does resolve that problem, but the change wasn’t overly popular | 19:10 |
| etoews | can we nail down the way forward for the path args stuff right now? | 19:10 |
| briancurtin | terrylhowe: i started looking back into that and how to tackle that while also thinking about the fact that we need URI props, body props, and header props, and they all do different things | 19:10 |
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| terrylhowe | definitely need something, not sure what the solution may be | 19:12 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: i don’t really think so. it’s probably the hardest problem we’ve encountered. the props being descriptors is on one hand a great thing, but it makes them slightly hard to discover how and when to do things with them based on type (since the type of those props is their internal value, not the fact that they’re some sort of prop) | 19:12 |
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| briancurtin | i think some of what terrylhowe goes the right direction, so i’m going to look back over it and see how it can align with what we need since the review went up | 19:13 |
| etoews | but at the moment, briancurtin is working on it right? | 19:13 |
| briancurtin | i don’t really have a good feeling or complete handle on how to solve it at the moment, though | 19:13 |
| briancurtin | i am. i don’t believe terrylhowe is looking at it at the same time outside of his existing reviews | 19:14 |
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| terrylhowe | I haven’t put any time into it; I’ve been distracted by other things | 19:14 |
| rtheis_ | I only looked at it briefly when trying to fix PoolMember: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264980/ | 19:15 |
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| etoews | briancurtin: beyond, just working the problem. is there anything else we can to help it move forward or remove roadblocks? | 19:15 |
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| briancurtin | etoews: i’m going to look at how to break it up into smaller chunks, but since the change is so far reaching into the core of how resources work at all, i still don’t really know | 19:16 |
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| etoews | kk | 19:16 |
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| terrylhowe | Getting this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215785/11/openstack/resource.py | 19:17 |
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| terrylhowe | through, perhaps not using base_path_args | 19:17 |
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| terrylhowe | and simply overriding the method where needed might be a good first step | 19:18 |
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| briancurtin | terrylhowe: that’s where i’m looking right now but trying to make it more discoverable than that. it’s pretty hard, so i’m probably going to come back to a similar idea to how you did that | 19:18 |
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| etoews | can we go back to https://launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+milestone/1.0 and ask 3 questions of each open issue. | 19:21 |
| etoews | 1. is the status correct? | 19:21 |
| etoews | 2. is it assignee correct? | 19:21 |
| etoews | 3. does it really need to be in 1.0? | 19:21 |
| etoews | 4. what needs to be done to get it resolved? | 19:21 |
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| etoews | (make that 4 questions) | 19:22 |
| briancurtin | was meaning to squeeze that in pre-meeting, but yeah. i’ll start listing them off and let’s talk | 19:22 |
| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1467732 - Improve server metadata usability | 19:23 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1467732 in OpenStack SDK "Improve server metadata usability" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) | 19:23 |
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| etoews | briancurtin: since it's assigned to you, can you list off 1,2,3,4? | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | 1. status correct, 2 assignee correct, 3 would be great because it’s currently not good, 4. it’s done but is not appropriately tied to this issue via commit message https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242694/ | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | actually it *is* in the commit message there, but LP doesn’t show it | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | aiming +2’ed it | 19:24 |
| briancurtin | qiming | 19:24 |
| etoews | so that one just needs review | 19:25 |
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| briancurtin | yep | 19:25 |
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| * etoews just added self | 19:25 | |
| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1440257 | 19:25 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1440257 in OpenStack SDK "Resource props of type=resource cause issue with basepath" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) | 19:26 |
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| briancurtin | we just talked about that one, and i just bumped the priority up and assigned it to me since i’m looking at it | 19:26 |
| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1455783 | 19:26 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1455783 in OpenStack SDK "Make the SDK more OCC compatible" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:26 |
| briancurtin | i don’t know what else may be needed there, but it seems to work ok | 19:26 |
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| etoews | terrylhowe: can you list off 1,2,3,4 for that one? | 19:27 |
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| etoews | terrylhowe: you around? | 19:30 |
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| terrylhowe | yeh, I’m look at those tickets trying to figure out what is going on | 19:30 |
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| etoews | let's just do one at a time | 19:30 |
| etoews | starting with the one above | 19:30 |
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| etoews | terrylhowe: how much time do need to look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1455783 ? | 19:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1455783 in OpenStack SDK "Make the SDK more OCC compatible" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:36 |
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| terrylhowe | maybe the solution to that is open other bugs for the other potential problems | 19:37 |
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| briancurtin | works for me. if any of that still exists it would be better as a concrete 1:1 bug to issue | 19:38 |
| etoews | yes | 19:38 |
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| terrylhowe | insecure, api versions, regions | 19:38 |
| etoews | and i don't think they'd necessarily need to be 1.0 either | 19:38 |
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| terrylhowe | kind of hard to verify they are bugs at the moment | 19:38 |
| terrylhowe | agreed | 19:38 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: can you split that one into separate post-1.0 bugs and close 1455783? | 19:39 |
| terrylhowe | yeh | 19:39 |
| etoews | #action terrylhowe to split 1455783 into separate post-1.0 bugs and close 1455783 | 19:39 |
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| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1526516 | 19:40 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1526516 in OpenStack SDK "Catch all ksa exceptions and map them to SDK exceptions" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Everett Toews (everett-toews) | 19:40 |
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| briancurtin | etoews has a review out for that, i’ll look at the latest after this meeting | 19:40 |
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| etoews | 1. correct 2. correct. 3. i guess 4. reviews. | 19:40 |
| etoews | let's move on | 19:41 |
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| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1461200 | 19:42 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461200 in OpenStack SDK "Create resource.props type=Resource for attributes with _id names" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:42 |
| briancurtin | that one is assigned to terry, but anyone can take them on since they should be done per-service. i already started a few of them | 19:42 |
| briancurtin | they’re reasonably easy to do as well. just find props in resources in a service that correspond to things with IDs, do the type=resource thing, update tests, should be good | 19:42 |
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| briancurtin | those can probably be broken up as well, and i can take that on, creating an issue per remaining service to have it done to. that should be done pre-1.0 so we don’t have to change names on people afterward or to have to support two names at once, e.g., something_id and something | 19:44 |
| briancurtin | #action briancurtin split 1461200 into smaller issues | 19:44 |
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| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1466279 | 19:45 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466279 in OpenStack SDK "ValidVersions.path not respected" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) | 19:45 |
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| rtheis_ | briancurtin: Are you referring to stuff like this: subnet_pool = resource.prop('subnetpool_id', type=_subnet_pool.SubnetPool) for the previous bug? | 19:45 |
| briancurtin | yes | 19:45 |
| rtheis_ | cool | 19:45 |
| briancurtin | on 279 i haven’t looked at this post-KSA so i’m going to unassign myself. this doesn’t need to be for 1.0 either if it is still in fact an issue | 19:46 |
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| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1487150 | 19:47 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1487150 in OpenStack SDK "Object store set_object_metadata is a bit oddball" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) | 19:47 |
| terrylhowe | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1455783 | 19:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1455783 in OpenStack SDK "Make the SDK more OCC compatible" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:47 |
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| etoews | rtheis_: do you have some bandwidth to look at the smaller issues from 1461200 once brian creates them? | 19:47 |
| terrylhowe | now has references to the 3 new bugs | 19:47 |
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| rtheis_ | etoews: Yes I can start with the network issue and go from there | 19:47 |
| etoews | terrylhowe: do you want to make https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1455783 1.1? | 19:48 |
| briancurtin | 123 correct, 4 it’s in progress somewhere, i’ll dig it up and make sure it’s appropriately tied to that issue. it’s an odd part of that proxy that i’d prefer to not have to change post-1.0 as it’d probably break people | 19:48 |
| etoews | rtheis_: thanks! | 19:48 |
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| rtheis_ | yw | 19:48 |
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| terrylhowe | etoews: I marked it released, we made some changes around that and released it | 19:49 |
| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1474478 | 19:49 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1474478 in OpenStack SDK "Why doesn't create update all attributes" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) | 19:49 |
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| etoews | terrylhowe: cool. | 19:50 |
| briancurtin | this is mostly correct except i’m unassigning myself. i had a little piece of code to fix it but i don’t think it’s pushed and i’m already assigned on enough stuff at the moment. i don’t think it’s too hard to fix but should be 1.0 if possible, ok if it slips | 19:50 |
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| briancurtin | actually it can just be 1.1 really | 19:50 |
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| briancurtin | that’s done | 19:51 |
| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1494494 | 19:51 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494494 in OpenStack SDK "Expose the full URL to an object in object_store" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:51 |
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| briancurtin | i guess this can just be 1.1. would be nice to have since you have to otherwise construct the URLs yourself if you’re using this inside a web app or something. another that i haven’t looked at post-KSA | 19:51 |
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| briancurtin | now marked as 1.1, everything else looks accurate on it | 19:52 |
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| briancurtin | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1513679 | 19:52 |
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| openstack | Launchpad bug 1513679 in OpenStack SDK "download_object needs to have the same API as get_object" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:52 |
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| briancurtin | that one is accurate in all forms: unassigned, critical, 1.0. don’t want to release and have to change the api on this one | 19:53 |
| briancurtin | and that marks the end of anything open on LP | 19:53 |
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| etoews | good | 19:53 |
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| briancurtin | anything else to sneak in within the last few minutes? | 19:55 |
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| etoews | anyone have the bandwidth to pick up https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1513679 ? | 19:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1513679 in OpenStack SDK "download_object needs to have the same API as get_object" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:55 |
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| etoews | briancurtin: we missed https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk/+bug/1466192 | 19:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466192 in OpenStack SDK "Update contributor guide" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Curtin (brian.curtin) | 19:57 |
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| briancurtin | oh yeah. i think it’s generally accurate, just needs to be finished and pushed. can probably hack on that this week | 19:57 |
| etoews | if you're not working on it right now, i'd say unassign to let someone else pick it up if they have the bandwidth | 19:57 |
| etoews | seems to me you've got a pretty full plate as it is! | 19:58 |
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| etoews | i mean, unless you've got something that's 90% of the way there. | 19:58 |
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| briancurtin | it’s not 90% but i have some of it, and so much of it in my head, i just need to stop and breathe for a second and shift gears to write it all down. i should be able to have it up maybe thursday afternoon or so | 19:59 |
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| etoews | okay then | 20:00 |
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| briancurtin | thanks for coming everyone | 20:00 |
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| rtheis_ | bye | 20:00 |
| briancurtin | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 12 20:01:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-01-12-19.01.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-01-12-19.01.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/python_openstacksdk/2016/python_openstacksdk.2016-01-12-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
| etoews | thanks. the road to 1.0 is much clearer. | 20:01 |
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