Wednesday, 2016-06-22

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EmilienMdmsimard: it seems like keystonemiddleware is not on trunk now, did we pin it?00:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/packstack: Create only required OVS bridges in compute nodes
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number80wow, we haven't updated pymod2pkg since inclusion upstream :(06:08
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jpenagood morning07:10
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number80jpena: what's left to support rpm-packaging after ?07:19
jpenanumber80: just having openstack-macros somewhere in the dlrn deps repo, and we should be good to go07:19
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number80jpena: ack07:21
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amoralejgood morning07:30
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jpenaamoralej: did we remove commits for keystonemiddleware yesterday (in trunk.rdo)?07:33
amoraleji'm checking the status07:33
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jpenawe've got a broken python-keystonemiddleware package in current-passed-ci07:34
amoraleji guess we'll have to create rpm-liberty with ^07:34
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jpenaamoralej: the liberty packages are failing due to the i18n fixes, right?07:35
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amoraleji guess so07:35
jpenaI'll create the rpm-liberty branches, np07:35
amoralejbut couldn't check yet07:35
jpenabut first I want to fix the current-passed-ci repo07:36
amoralejlet me see the issue with keystonemiddleware07:36
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number80jpena: you weren't there but EmilienM asked us to pin keystonemiddleware to 4.5.1 yesterday07:39
number80and while apevec was doing it, the fix was submitted to review, so he undid it07:39
number80amoralej: ^07:39
jpenanumber80: but doing so by deleting a commit in "SUCCESS" causes this kind of issues (it's like feeding a gremlin after midnight :D)07:39
amoralejyes i've seen the pin and revert07:40
number80jpena: maybe, I'm not sure how it was done on the server07:40
amoralejwe should look for a cleanest solution for this "pin commit" cases07:40
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number80what about having a dlrn pin command?07:41
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number80You pin a build and only ship this one in generated repo until we unpin it07:41
amoraleji was thinking of adding a commit: option in rdoinfo for tags07:41
amoralejto pin07:41
amoralejin packages07:42
number80works too07:42
amoralejand in that case check that the latest build is for that commit07:42
number80I'd like keeping building commits and just override whatever we ship in repositories07:42
amoralejyeap, sounds better07:43
number80sounds we have a volunteer for that task :)07:43
jpenakeep on building seems to break less stuff in the db area, however that should not touch earlier repos, so any current-passed-ci would not be affected07:44
amoralejyeap, maybe it's time to start learning DLRN...07:44
amoralejbut if we keep building on new commits for pinned-packages, those shouldn't get the consistent link, or something like that07:45
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number80amoralej: in absolute correctness yes, but we pin package to have working repo for current-passed-ci so it implies that these would still have to get consistent link07:47
number80or we'd have to hack the symlink policy too07:47
amoraleji mean, let's assume we pin openstack-nova to xxx07:48
* number80 reads07:48
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amoralejthe repo for any build for other package should have the link to openstack-nova-xxx and get consisteng07:48
amoralejconsistent, no problem07:49
amoralejbut if we keep building for openstack-nova-xxx +107:49
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amoralejthat repo, shouldn't be used for promotions, right?07:49
amoralejshouldn't be considered consistent07:50
number80right if the last build is openstack-nova07:50
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amoralejjpena, all issues with liberty are because of i18n, we need to create rpm-liberty07:52
jpenait might be easier if we took another route. Let's assume those cases should be rare. We could fix it by temporarily taking that package out of rdoinfo (tag: to-fix), then add a working package to an "overrides" repo, that is included as part of delorean-deps.repo07:52
jpenait could be easier than hacking dlrn for something against its purpose07:53
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number80jpena: that's much simpler07:53
jpenaamoralej: yep, I'm creating the branches07:53
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number80jpena, amoralej: should we add it to the meeting agenda?07:53
jpenanumber80: yes, let's do it07:54
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number80Added =>
number80feel free to modify it07:56
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jaosoriorHey guys, I'm seeing a bunch of errors like this:08:09
jaosorior Error: Execution of '/bin/yum -d 0 -e 0 -y install openstack-glance' returned 1: Delta RPMs disabled because /usr/bin/applydeltarpm not installed08:09
jaosoriorwith several openstack packages08:09
jaosoriorI installed deltarpm08:09
jaosoriorand now I'm seeing stuff like:08:10
jaosoriorError: Execution of '/bin/yum -d 0 -e 0 -y install openstack-ironic-common' returned 1: No Presto metadata available for delorean08:10
jaosoriorThis is happening in the TripleO CI08:10
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jaosoriorany idea what could be causing this or how to fix it?08:10
jpenajaosorior: is that using Mitaka or master?08:10
jpenaI think I know the reason, it's the same python-keystonemiddleware problem we were having in current-passed-ci08:11
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jpenalet me fix it08:11
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jpenajaosorior: it should be ok now. Could you recheck one of the jobs and see if it works now?08:13
jaosoriorjpena:  Is there anything we should do in our side?08:13
jaosoriorlets see08:13
jaosoriorjpena: so is deltarpm needed?08:14
jpenajaosorior: just recheck. We did a change yesterday that broke some repos08:14
jpenajaosorior: no, that should be just a warning message. The real issue is different08:14
jaosoriorthanks a lot, I'll let you know if it worked08:14
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mrungedeltarpm should not be needed anyways08:23
mrungethat will save you time, when you have a sloooow link, but otherwise one can even disable the deltarpm check08:24
number80easy review from someone familiar w/ RDO packages =>
number80(basically, checking that packages epoch are properly set)08:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/packstack: Use versionless keystone url for auth_url
openstackgerritMerged openstack/packstack: Enable heat-cfn installation by default
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: Refactor manifest execution
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: Create Gnocchi legacy resources
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number80thanks amoralej, jpena09:56
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number80btw, openstack-macros is now in common-testing09:58
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: Refactor manifest execution
openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: Create Gnocchi legacy resources
number80apevec, amoralej: I added openstack-macros in buildroot topic in today's meeting10:51
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number80I'm preparing a patch to allow renderspec to control common bare buildrequires such as this ones more elegantly10:52
apevecamoralej, keystonemw issue should've been fixed by - has that hit rdo trunk repo?10:52
amoralejin fact, last promote jobs run succeed all puppet jobs10:52
amoralejonly the tripleo issue is open10:53
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number80apevec: btw, second opinion needed on this review +>
amoralejand for the osc issue it's close, i tested today last proposed patch set and works fine, but it's not merged yet10:54
apevec3o is that heat thing?10:55
apevecso only 3. is left open in
apevechmm 2x +2
amoralejhopefully, will fix it...10:56
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apevecuhm tripleoci failing10:56
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apevecwhat was the issue w/ rdo repos?10:57
* number80 likes the topic10:57
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amoralejwell, the keystonemw pin from yesterday10:57
apevecthere must be more !10:57
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amoralejbroke symlinks10:57
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apeveclet's document that topic10:57
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amoralejfor current-passed-ci and current-tripleo10:57
amoralejwe've added to today's meeting agenda10:58
amoralejwe need something better10:58
apevecamoralej, uh crap, yes, it has rebuilt old commits with current dist hash :(10:58
amoralejthe problem is that it's the same dist hash10:58
amoralejbut diferent date10:58
amoralejso it overwrithe old builds10:58
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jpenayep, the golden rule is "never delete a successful commit"11:00
amoralejsomething that should work is create a new dummy commit in distgit before "unpining"11:00
apevecamoralej, yeah, in case of passed it was the same dist but still timestamp11:01
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amoralejbut we need to get a better solution11:01
amoraleji think the one jpena proposed is the simplest11:01
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sshnaidm_jpena, hi11:17
jpenahi sshnaidm_11:18
sshnaidm_jpena, could you tell please what was wrong with repos today morning?11:18
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jpenasshnaidm_ sure. We are having an issue with the openstackclient that required us to temporarily pin to an older version of keystonemiddleware (
jpenaactually, we *were* having an issue, not anymore11:19
EmilienMamoralej: therve fixed keystonemiddleware, patch was merged, we should be good11:20
jpenaso long story short, while trying to force that version in the repos, that forced rebuild of some old keystonemiddleware packages, and that broke the repos containing them11:20
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jpenasshnaidm_ so CIs relying on current-passed-ci or current-tripleo failed when installing a package that depended on python-keystonemiddleware11:21
amoralejyes, we are EmilienM11:21
EmilienMamoralej: but last night I tried latest repos and keystonemiddleware was pin so I gave up11:22
EmilienMcan I try again today?11:22
sshnaidm_jpena, I see, it's a pity we didn't know about that.. Is there a way to alert about repositories problem? To save time for unnecessary reproducing and investigations11:22
amoralejyou mean the promotion pipeline?11:23
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amoralejthe keystonemw was unpinned and package built11:23
amoralejthis was with latest11:23
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jpenasshnaidm_ maybe an email to rdo-list with a specific topic would work. wdyt?11:24
EmilienMamoralej: ack, will try again11:25
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EmilienMamoralej: it seems like it works
sshnaidm_jpena, sure, something visible, i.e. "[ALERT] [RDO repo]"11:25
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EmilienMamoralej: all 3 jobs we care don't fail anymre11:26
jpenasshnaidm_ ok, let me add this as a topic for today's meeting, in case someone else can think of an automated way to do it11:26
sshnaidm_jpena, cool, thanks!11:26
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amoraleji tested with a packstack install and was fine too11:26
number80 <= I started with these ones11:30
number80the provides macros is not suitable yet to be upstreamed11:30
rdobot[sensu] NEW: - check-delorean-liberty-current @ |#| Build failure on centos7-liberty/current: oslo.db, oslo.vmware, oslo.versionedobjects:
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tristanCapevec: misc: that makes sense, letsencrypt do have some tricky caveats and afaik, it's broken for old system (it needs a recent glibc iirc)11:38
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rdobot[sensu] RESOLVED: - check-delorean-liberty-current @ |#| No build failures detected:
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flepiedtrown|outtypewww: jschlueter: I have added a countdown and the count of issues with a link to the RDO dashboard too:
jschlueterflepied: cool11:48
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jschlueterflepied: any luck getting a more permanent home with a domain name for the dashboard?11:48
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flepiedmisc: ^^11:48
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apevecnumber80, you could add macros which work for rdo as macros.openstack-rdo, there's already  openstack-macros/macros.openstack-suse11:55
apevecthen we move them to common when there's consensus11:55
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apevecvs blocking on consensus11:56
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apevecflepied, jschlueter - the only thing now blocking rdo trunk master promotion is
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miscjschlueter: still didn't had time to look at it11:58
number80apevec: ack, this is the fallback option11:58
EmilienMapevec: fyi, puppet CI should promote today if not this morning11:58
number80but I'd like those to get into spec templates11:59
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* bkero notices that we're missing a python-keystonemiddleware in the repos that I'm trying12:03
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apevecEmilienM, so puppet-heat CI is not hitting that heat issue which breaks tripleo pingtest?12:03
EmilienMbkero: fixed now12:03
bkeroEmilienM: Oh? Thanks!12:03
EmilienMapevec: no12:03
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EmilienMapevec: we run tempest smoke and it seems like all is passin12:03
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EmilienMapevec: pingtest does something special, that I can't tell atm12:04
bkeroEmilienM: in 9e2897e0e?12:04
apevecbkero, which repos are you trying?12:05
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apevecfixed build should be in latest "consistent"12:05
bkeroapevec: trunk.r.o/centos7-master/9e/28/9e2897e0... and
apevecwhere did you get that repo url from?12:06
apeveclatest consistent is
apevecbkero,  ah that's old, EmilienM has refresh coming12:07
bkeroYep, I believe that's what he was saying12:07
apevec9e2898e0 us Jun 1012:08
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apevecEmilienM, one idea to throw around: I see openstack-ansible is branchless i.e. works with multiple openstack release, is there a plan for openstack/puppet going branchless?12:12
apevecI'm entertaining idea making packstack branchless12:13
EmilienMwe had this discussion 10 times with our community12:13
EmilienMand this is not possible12:13
apevechow does ansible do it?12:13
EmilienMI don't know but this is not how we do12:13
EmilienMwe have the same release cycle as other OpenStack projects, and everything works like this, specially our CI12:14
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bkeroWhat would be gained by getting rid of branches?12:17
EmilienMnothing but pain for our group, we just won't do it12:19
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EmilienMask the same question to tripleo12:19
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EmilienMconfig changes at every release, without branch it's impossible to support stable releases12:19
EmilienMand until now we're pretty damn good at it12:20
bkeroRight, I'm wondering why it would be desired to get rid of branches12:20
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apevecbkero, using same installer to install multiple releases12:26
apevecI think tripleo has that RFE12:26
bkeroThis sounds like moving the complexity from 1 installer to N projects12:27
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EmilienMapevec: the RFE is about "n can deploy n-1"12:29
EmilienMapevec: and with our puppet modules, you can do it, but we don't garantee it works. WHat we garantee is the puppet interface (parameters) that keep backward compatibility12:29
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apevechow does it work ? parallel installable puppet-* RPMs ?12:31
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bkeroThe RPMs don't support parallel installation.12:37
bkeroThe packages are 'puppet-nova', not 'puppet-nova-mitaka'12:38
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bkeroMan that repo link changes so much12:45
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bkeroI'm wondering why we just don't wget the repo URL into /etc/yum.repos.d/ I guess it would create some ambiguity, and if it's broken it will break tests.12:46
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apevecbkero, supported way is to wget delorean.repo12:47
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apevecthat one has fixed hashed repourl12:48
bkeroI'm also wondering why we don't provide a symlink 'curren't.12:48
bkeroBlah. 'current' that points to the latest.12:48
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trownflepied: that is awesome thanks!12:58
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karimbdanpawlik ping mind me talking ownership on ?13:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1590748 in puppet-keystone "Keystone_authtoken missing parameters" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to daniel.pawlik (daniel-pawlik)13:01
danpawlikkarimb: sure. I have done something here:
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danpawlikkarimb: unit tests and functionall passed, but I forgot to make one more time recheck13:02
EmilienMtrown: fyi, puppet promotion today13:02
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trownEmilienM: woot, just need that one patch to THT to make it through the gate... zuul queue is so long...13:06
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EmilienMtrown: yeah13:08
EmilienMtrown: we also have infra issues with zuul/ansible, see #openstack-infra13:08
trownfun times13:09
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trownshould slow down other potentially broken things from merging at least :P13:09
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trownso we have that going for us... which is nice13:09
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jaosoriorHey guys, I'm trying to build a package from a local changte13:11
jaosoriorand I'm seeing stuff like this13:12
jaosoriorWARNING:dlrn:URL for ./data/instack-undercloud changed from to git://, cleaning directory and cloning again13:12
jaosoriorany clues?13:12
jaosoriorseems to clone it again and doesn't take the changes I did into account13:12
jpenajaosorior: I think I introduced a bug in a patch merged a couple days ago13:15
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jaosorioraw :(13:15
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jpenajaosorior: for a quick test, edit dlrn/, then go to line 485 and change "else:" for "elif local is False:"13:16
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jpenaI'm going to propose the change right now13:16
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jaosoriorjpena: Same issue13:17
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jpenajaosorior: does the warning show up?13:17
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jaosoriorin the same way13:18
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jpenalet me run a quick test13:18
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jaosoriorjpena wait up13:21
jaosoriorseems I edited the wrong file13:21
jaosoriorfor some reason there is another dlrn cloned by tripleo.sh13:21
jaosoriornow it's processing the right hash13:21
jpenaok good13:22
jpenain any case I should fix that13:22
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jaosoriorjpena: fixed!13:25
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jaosoriorjpena: Thanks for the help13:31
jpenajaosorior: np13:31
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number80.nextmeeting #rdo13:32
zodbotnumber80: In #rdo is RDO meeting (starting in an hour)13:32
zodbotnumber80: In #rdo is RDO meeting (starting in 7 days)13:32
zodbotnumber80: In #rdo is RDO meeting (starting in 14 days)13:32
zodbotnumber80: -
rbowenThat's handy.13:32
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number80I just saw that you could give the channel as an argument13:33
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number80and you can always PM zodbot to run commands13:33
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dmsimardnumber80: fyi I'm here today but not for next week's meeting (pto)13:39
dmsimardyou'll be on openstack mute duty :)13:39
dmsimardjust -v the bot and +v it back once the meeting ends13:40
number80dmsimard: np13:40
number80dmsimard: btw, check the agenda, I think the DLRN topic may interest you13:40
number80(the one about packages pinning)13:41
dmsimardwhat, How to raise an alert when RDO Trunk repos are broken ?13:41
dmsimardI have no strong opinion13:42
dmsimardaround pinning13:42
dmsimardI do, however, think that however we're going to do it is probably going to end up being dirty13:42
number80well, Javier's proposal avoids playing with the database13:43
trowndmsimard: who did you chat with wrt legal implications of ansible plugins in Apache2 codebase?
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dmsimardoh, this thread has grown already far too big with far too many people involved :(13:45
dmsimardI opened pandora's box13:45
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trowndmsimard: ah k... wanted to get some legal guru input on that patch to quickstart, because pretty clearly states the compatibility is one way13:46
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dmsimardtrown: hang on13:47
dmsimardso there is and
dmsimardapparently my version of the callback has grown popular :p13:49
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dmsimardbut seriously, let me send you what I have13:49
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trownI mean the link on the Apache page is pretty clear... would really need a lawyer, like one with an actual law degree, to convince me otherwise13:51
dmsimardtrown: forwarded you a couple emails13:51
dmsimardan actual lawyer with an actual degree who happened to write the GPL has an opinion on the matter :)13:51
dmsimardalthough tl;dr, there is no decisive clear cut decision13:52
trownlol, k I will just leave that where it is for now... quickstart log output is not bad enough to make me want to deal with all of that atm13:53
dmsimardThe ambiguity is that ansible callback plugins should be GPL, and if a GPL callback plugin is inside an Apache project, it's not so clear anymore which license is effective13:53
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dmsimardand the fuss is that OpenStack big tent projects cannot under any circumstances require GPL stuff13:54
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dmsimardZuul is exempt of that13:54
dmsimardit's complicated :(13:54
* dmsimard changes facebook marital status to "it's complicated"13:54
trownadarazs: context for my -1 on that patch btw ^13:54
miscansible callback could be apache213:54
alphaccnumber80: can you relaunch your last build attempt ? :-)13:55
dmsimardmisc: however that particular callback was originally licensed GPL13:55
miscdmsimard: oh, that's a problem then13:55
miscdmsimard: what about pushing it upstream in ansible ?13:55
trowndmsimard: is there any way to get the original author to relicense?13:55
trownya or that13:55
dmsimardI think tosky wanted to pursue sending human_log upstream13:56
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dmsimardotoh when I talked to Ansible engineering they wanted something cleaner13:57
toskyI only commented on the gist of the original author asking if he wanted/could push it upstream13:57
imcsk8meeting in 3 minutes guys13:57
dmsimarduh, no, 1 hour ?13:57
adarazsdmsimard, trown: so what if we would ask the guy who wrote it originally (and then dmsimard) if he can relicense it to apache for us? (omg I don't want to deal with licenses, but here we are)13:57
dmsimardtrown: FWIW ARA is full Apache v2 until proven otherwise13:57
* adarazs had his scroll buffer up and didn't notice this was already mentioned :)13:58
imcsk8i'm movile so i might have some little connection glitches13:59
dmsimardimcsk8: the meeting is in one hour ..13:59
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imcsk8it's at 8:00 am MST right?14:00
EmilienMit's like every week14:00
EmilienMit's in 1h :)14:00
dmsimard15:00 UTC14:00
imcsk8oh yeahh!!14:00
Ducknumber80: you did not contact me for MM3 :-/14:00
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imcsk8i'm right now on CDT, got confused with the timezones14:01
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number80Duck: well, no time for MM3 so backup is to use our current list14:01
number80sorry about that :(14:01
Ducknumber80: ha ok, that' a good reason14:02
Duckmaybe you could drive me on it and I'll do the work14:02
rbowenOh! I got the time wrong.14:02
rbowenOy, time zones.14:03
Duckin 1h :-)14:03
number80Duck: well, that was investigation on what could be done, so do not force any burden on yourself :)14:04
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Ducknumber80: I'm already working on it for oVirt, so that's the right time for me14:05
number80we should do it like in China: everyone at Beijing hour14:05
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SketchUTC for all14:05
number80Duck: ack, anyway if we do that, we need to find out where to host it14:05
number80Sketch: well, technically France should be using UTC so it would be perfect for me :)14:06
misci heard OSAS got a few set of servers in their cage14:06
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number80oh, that may change things, apevec ^14:06
misc(by a set, that's 2 with 16G or 8g of ram)14:07
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number80which is enough for mailing lists14:07
DuckI guess a VM would be sufficient14:07
miscwe still didn't named them yet :)14:07
number80*more than14:07
misc(I also wrote a ansible role to deploy a VM ...)14:07
number80Goofy and Minnie?14:07
Duckyeah, the biggest problem is not to install them, but to name them :-)14:07
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miscnumber80: so far, the best domain name proposed is ""14:09
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Duckbeemo and football ?14:10
miscDuck: we can decide to each name 1 server14:11
misci almost proposed a complicated scheme like the Fedora naming14:11
Duckbut if they don't get on well?14:12
misc(the one where you have to have a link between 2 versions, but not the same for each version)14:12
miscDuck: well, that would be the same as if not wearing matching socks14:12
Duckexactly, a source of regular downtime14:13
Duckbut that could be an excuse to be lazy14:13
number80misc: lol, well, like the now late Fedora naming process (RIP)14:14
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Ducknumber80: could you tell me what you would need in term of feature, auth system… so I can look for it (before the 3 months debating about naming) ?14:20
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number80Duck: that's something we'd need to discuss w/ apevec14:21
number80likely for auth, using github14:21
number80or openstack openid server14:21
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miscit depend on who is gonna be subscribed, no ?14:22
Ducknumber80: I think we need to write it somewhere14:22
number80well, now we use github for authentication everywhere in RDO14:23
number80at least, stuff that have authentication feature14:23
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apevecon call14:24
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miscnumber80: what we did for mageia:
apevecauth for what?14:24
miscapevec: mailman314:25
number80apevec: old discussion to have separate list for infra and notifications, apparently OSAS has now new servers14:26
Duckmisc: good dish names?14:26
number80okonomyaki is too long14:26
Duckhehe, on of the best14:27
Ducktonkutsuramen ?14:27
Ducktonkotsuramen sorry14:27
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* number80 -> [}14:29
alphaccapevec, number80 : openstack-ironic build is not happy . I am looking into it. the taks is staying forever in "free" not picked up bu builders14:29
* misc note that there is already a 14:29
number80alphacc: the previous one was cancelled14:29
apevecre. auth for mailman - what's wrong w/ normal passwords?14:29
number80I haven't looked at it yet14:29
Ducknumber80: there's several systems to romanize, but normal romaji is "ramen"14:30
alphaccnumber80: yes it blocks all other builds for all other tags. very weird...14:30
alphaccnumber80: do you have the command you use ?14:30
apevecso cancel killed CBS?14:31
number80alphacc: cbs build --scratch cloud7-openstack-mitaka-el7 xxx.src.rpm (that's actually rdopkg doing it for me)14:31
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number80I always do scratch builds unless I am sure or drunk14:31
miscapevec: I think no one like having 1 password per website14:31
miscapevec: but we can keep also that, that's not a exclusive choice14:31
number80apevec: yeah, to check if new releases doesn't break build first14:31
miscit is more "what should be supported"14:32
number80and it also gives me time to last minute forgetting14:32
alphaccnumber80: ok investigating... thanks!14:32
apevecmisc, yeah, sso is nice but for mailman everybody is used to password per list14:32
miscie, there is some nice to have, some "we do not care", and some "must work"14:32
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miscapevec: the work is also already done upstream14:32
imcsk8jpena: i'm trying to rsync from the centos but i get this error, do you have any clue how to get pass this? (rsync -aqzH
imcsk8jpena: @ERROR: Unknown module 'centos'14:33
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apevecimcsk8, I don't think there's public rsync on mirror.c.o14:33
apevecbut some mirrors of mirror.c.o might have it14:33
jschlueternumber80: I've noticed general cleanup in spec files dropping Group?14:33
imcsk8apevec: thanks i'll check the mirrors14:34
number80jschlueter: yes, it's been unused for a long time (since RHEL5 or 6)14:34
jschlueternumber80: ack14:34
number80we never succeeded in managing groups properly14:34
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Sketchimcsk8: having two colons looks suspicious14:35
imcsk8i tried without colons also14:35
Duckapevec, misc: at the moment local pwd to have compat with MM2 is *not* working. abompard has started work but it's not finished and he is struggling to finish MM 3.1 with perfect migration script so…14:35
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Ducknumber80: like JP ryouri too?14:36
number80weirdly enough, I understand enough japanese to get that14:36
Sketchyou might try one of the rsync urls on the page linked above, it's likely that will hit a server that doesn't offer rsync14:37
Ducknumber80: washoku ga suki?14:37
Duckyokatta :-)14:38
dmsimardtrown: unblocked for the jenkins slaves \o/14:39
number80I suspect that I pretty much understand anything food related in any language14:39
Ducknumber80: かな ga ok?14:39
number80well, I can't read kanji :)14:39
imcsk8Sketch: thanks14:39
Ducknumber80: sugoi! we should talk in japanese sometimes then, number80-sensei14:41
number80lol, my conversation is pretty limited but you should ask tristanC about it ;)14:42
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dmsimardIn Tokyo I over used the words "Sumimasen" and "Arigatou gozaimasu" so much (sorry for spelling mistakes if any :p)14:43
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DucktristanC: はじめまして。宜しくお願いいたします。時々日本語で話しましょうか?14:44
Ducknumber80: thanks :-)14:44
number80dmsimard: next time, try yakuza or yankee talk14:44
Duckdmsimard: no it's fine. and yes it's so damn useful :-)14:45
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dmsimardMy japanese is limited to what I can understand from all the animes I watch14:45
dmsimardI tried to learn kanji and hiragana before going to Tokyo14:46
dmsimardbut without every day practice, it just doesn't stick14:46
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Duckthis morning the woman from kuroneko, the delivery service, must have done some insignificantly bad thing or made the customer wait 30s, and she kept saying sorry, thank you in a loop until away with her car14:47
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tristanCDuck: nice to meet you too sir, please note my japanese skill are limited to hand gesture ;)14:48
Duckthe ojiisan said daijoubu multiple times, and smiled, but to no avail14:48
* number80 is an ojiisan now14:48
Sketchdmsimard: that's pretty much all the japanese i remembered last time i went to japan14:48
DucktristanC: joudan da yo!!! :-)14:48
Duckok, let's do the meeting in Japanese then14:49
dmsimardthere was a noodle restaurant in shibuya.. everytime a customer came in or exited the restaurant, all the cooks would scream things14:49
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Sketchdon't they do that in pretty much every shop? ;)14:49
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dmsimardthat was was special :P14:50
dmsimardthat one*14:50
misctristanC: you count "designating a bottle of sake" as hand gesture ?14:50
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Duckthat's really common here this shouting, you get used to it :-)14:50
dmsimardkamukura I think14:50
dmsimardkamukura noodles ?14:51
number80meeting in 10 min14:51
tristanCmisc: heh, you know, I show a hand handing an invisible glass, that is usualy enough to get a random beverage :-)14:51
misctristanC: so true14:51
number80alphacc: did you do something? my scratch just went suddenly moving forward14:52
Duckhum, after yokohama along the see, a bit far14:52
alphaccnumber80: yes weird bug14:52
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number80alphacc: I must be using CBS too intensively then :)14:53
alphaccnumber80: all host from diffferent arch need same capacity setting otherwise tassk are not moved accross host (we added ppc64le builder today)14:53
apevecalphacc, what was it?14:53
alphacccan you send another one ?14:53
apevecalphacc, this was you?14:53
alphaccapevec: yes14:54
apevecbuilt by koji14:54
alphaccapevec: you can resend14:54
imcsk8number80, apevec i'm connected using my cell and i have to chair the meeting, should i transfer the chair to someoneelse to avoid problems?14:54
alphaccapevec: or I did ;)14:54
number80ah yes14:54
apevecok, I'll resend ironic14:54
number80imcsk8: just add everyone in chair and we'll pick it up if you can't14:54
number80apevec: you're doing ironic?14:54
apevecyeah, we have HA chairs :)14:55
miscah ah14:55
apevecnumber80, I started it earlier
openstackapevec: Error: Error getting bug #1348817: NotPermitted14:55
imcsk8hehehe i can be on the meeting but i don't want to dropoff while chairing14:55
apevechm, why is that not public bz14:55
imcsk8sorry about that, i'll chair next one :)14:55
number80apevec: ack, please cherry-pick the latest commit in rpm-master14:56
apevecto liberty?14:56
number80nope mitaka14:56
apevecnumber80, you can finish mitaka, I've started w/ liberty14:56
number80ah ok14:56
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imcsk8meeting on one minute14:59
trownimcsk8: it is in an hour14:59
trownhar har har14:59
imcsk8not again!!14:59
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apevecTZ jokers :)15:00
imcsk8i can start the meeting but can't chair 'cause i might dropoff15:00
apevecstart it up!15:00
imcsk8#startmeeting RDO meeting (2016-06-22)15:00
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zodbotUseful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.15:00
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apevecdrop of the chair?15:00
imcsk8of the connection15:01
apevecimcsk8, #chair us all15:01
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rbowen /0\15:02
apevec /o/15:02
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apevecimcsk8, you need to chair us15:03
imcsk8#chair apevec Duck number80 dmsimard15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: Duck apevec dmsimard imcsk8 number8015:03
zodbotCurrent chairs: Duck apevec dmsimard imcsk8 number8015:03
Duckyes, it's tiring to stand up all along15:03
imcsk8sorry, i lost connections15:03
apevec#topic rollcall15:04
apevecwe did that15:04
rbowenStill here15:04
apevec#topic graylist review.rdoproject.org15:04
imcsk8#chair amoralej jpena rbowen15:04
zodbotCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej apevec dmsimard imcsk8 jpena number80 rbowen15:04
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openstackCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej apevec dmsimard imcsk8 jpena number80 rbowen15:04
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apevecgraylist should be down to 5min after reverse DNS was fixed15:04
number80#chair trown chandankumar15:04
zodbotCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena number80 rbowen trown15:04
openstackCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena number80 rbowen trown15:04
Duck#chair misc15:04
openstackCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena misc number80 rbowen trown15:04
zodbotCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena misc number80 rbowen trown15:04
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chandankumarapevec, what is graylist?15:05
apevecany SMTP experts around who can help us solve remaining 5?15:05
apevectemp block by mail server15:05
miscapevec: I do not think we can do much15:05
miscexcept on the remote server side15:05
apevecfrom review.rdo -> it was hours15:05
miscand greylist should be applied on the first connexion15:06
Duckbut that's rh.c's side15:06
miscnot sure if RH IT has some kind of whitelist15:06
miscwe can dig in their puppet config to see that, or open a ticket15:06
apevecmisc, card is
apevecjschlueter has filed IT ticket15:06
imcsk8Duck: rh.c is graylisting right?15:06
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imcsk8mot graylist programs have an exclusion list15:07
apevecmisc, please check comments in the card, and add suggestion how to debug further15:07
apevecbut I think we can remove  that topic from recurring list15:07
apeveclet's move on?15:08
miscapevec: looking at the ticket, seems IT is on it15:08
apevecyeah, jschlueter said they need one example session15:08
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apevecfbo, jschlueter ^ anything else to add?15:09
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miscwe can chat after the meeting (or I can go ping fbo, even if that involve me moving by 5 m to the other side of the room)15:09
apevec#action apevec to followup remaining graylisting of with fbo jschlueter misc15:10
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apevecmisc, hehe15:10
Duckmisc: do I need to be a previous member of IT to see tickets unrelated to me?15:10
apevecok next15:10
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apevec#topic DLRN instance migration to ci.centos infra15:10
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jpenathat's mine15:10
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miscDuck: yep, unfortunately15:11
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jpenawe should have everything in place now, with the current and consistent links being synced15:11
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apevecwhat about passed-ci  ?15:11
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apevecdo they match?15:11
jpenathat's synced to buildlogs, and the public server redirects there15:12
imcsk8#chair mburned15:12
zodbotCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena mburned misc number80 rbowen trown15:12
openstackCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena mburned misc number80 rbowen trown15:12
apevecok so when can we do the cut off?15:12
amoralejwill we manually sync the current-passed-ci for bootstrap the new server?15:13
jpenaunless EmilienM/trown/dmsimard have any issue, I'd like to flip the switch tomorrow morning (CET time), so we have enough time to troubleshoot during the day if anything goes wrong15:13
apevecEmilienM, trown, dmsimard - speak up now!15:13
trown+1, hopefully we get a promote on master today15:13
dmsimardI think all my concerns have been addressed15:13
dmsimardalso yes, we need to re-sync the symlinks15:14
trownbut if not, I dont think the change should disrupt promote15:14
dmsimardI can take care of that, I did a small script to check the symlinks on both servers to compare them15:14
apevectrown, you're using trunk-primary ?15:14
dmsimardapevec: for the hash check only15:14
dmsimardapevec: not for the actual installation15:14
jpenadmsimard: ok. If you can, re-sync the symlinks later today and e-mail me if it goes ok, so I can change DNS tomorrow15:15
apevecI mean for promote script15:15
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trowntrunk-primary is used to get the hash, and it is used for promote15:15
dmsimardyes, promote uses trunk-primary15:15
EmilienMjpena: go ahead15:15
apevecok, then it's good15:15
apevecjpena, action!15:15
EmilienMour CI is completly broken anyway today15:16
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EmilienMbut unrelated to rdo15:16
jpena#action dmsimard to re-sync the current-passed-ci symlinks15:16
jpena#action jpena to switch DNS entries for on Thu Jun 2315:16
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apevec#topic MM3 (mailman3) installation15:17
apevecthat was on irc earlier, do we have hosting now?15:17
Duckinvestigating OSAS hosting15:17
number80yep, misc mentionned that OSAS has two unnamed servers15:17
apevecthere was auth question15:18
Duckif a VM on our new machines would fit you, think it would15:18
Duckmore generally, list the needs15:18
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apeveclooks like MM3 doesn't support old style password per list ?15:18
Duckhave it written in Trello for ex15:18
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apevecack, let's start with that15:18
Duckapevec: it should, but not yet15:18
apevecrbowen, ^ suggestion is to also migration rdo-list to future @lists.rdoproject.org15:19
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Duckabompard started working on it but is too busy with the upcoming release to continue it right now15:19
apevecrbowen, any suggestion for migration strategy?15:19
miscwhen is 3.1 supposed to be released ?15:19
apevecauto re-subscribe all current members?15:19
rbowenYes, I would be a big big fan of having our lists on an hostname.15:19
Duckmisc: I did not see an exact date, but seems soon15:19
number80apevec: yep15:19
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Duckmisc: but we have the RPM from abompard with 3.1 git + patches15:20
apevecnumber80, would you like to start the trello card and everybody chime-in with requirements?15:20
number80#action coordinate requirements for m-l migration in trello15:20
Duckwe can already work on migrating previous mails and see what is the result15:20
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zodbotRemoving item from minutes: ACTION by number80 at 15:20:57 : coordinate requirements for m-l migration in trello15:21
number80#action number80 coordinate requirements for m-l migration in trello15:21
Ducknumber80: :-)15:21
apevecrbowen, what version of mailman do we have now at ?15:21
dmsimardWhy no hyperkitty :(15:21
Duckdmsimard: ???15:21
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misclikely mailman-2.1.12-25.el6.x86_6415:22
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dmsimardDuck: fedora's moved to hyperkitty recently, was it considered ?15:22
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Duckdmsimard: it's a standard component with MM315:22
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dmsimardoh so mm3 ~= hyperkitty ?15:22
Duckand Postorius for the webi15:22
miscand abompard is hyperkitty upstream15:22
rbowen It seems we've been talking about it for 2 years, at least.15:22
Duckdmsimard: the components are split, but I was talking about the whole package15:22
miscrbowen: yeah, mailman3 was supposed to be released at pycon in Montreal, and it took a few weeks of delay15:23
miscthen fedora did deploy, found bugs15:23
rbowenAlso worth looking at, Apache PonyMail15:23
rbowenNot that I'm biased or anything. :-)15:23
misc(then, it did also requires python3, so it did requires backport on EL7)15:23
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Duckwell, if you want to look at the new interface, I can give you info on the oVirt's experiment15:23
dmsimardrbowen: ? :P15:24
rbowenNo, not that one15:24
dmsimardI know, just messing with you15:24
trownflashback to the 90s15:24
misc" Q: I can Receive email but I can no longer send any email.." seems like a way to reduce the problem of having too much traffic on the list15:24
dmsimardsorry for sidetracking topic15:24
dmsimardlet's move on15:24
apevecrbowen, oh, so we need to migrate all those references?15:26
rbowenThat last url was a temporary thing set up by the ponymail guy to show me what it could do.15:26
rbowenThat is not a stable URL15:26
apeveclet's move on, we have action15:26
apevec#topic New release for openstack-utils15:27
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apevecyes, let's publish it15:27
number80I noticed that since pixelb left no new release15:27
apeveceven if it is just one patch15:27
number80apevec: actually, we have some pending reviews15:27
jpenashould we add this package under the DLRN umbrella?15:28
number80do you take the action or should i take it?15:28
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apevecI see only one PR
apevecwe didn't migrate it to review.rdo did we?15:28
apevecjpena, I'm not sure15:29
apevecit's not openstack project15:29
apevecand not much changing15:29
number80apevec: nope (well, I reviewed Nir's to add neutron-**aaS services)15:29
apevec should be fixed?15:30
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apevecnumber80, ok, let's do triage of remaining open issues then release it15:30
apevec#action apevec and number80 do triage of open issue and release openstack-utils 2016.115:31
apevec#topic Proposal to manage pinned packages15:31
number80(sorry, I'm also dealing w/ CBS tag topic on #centos-devel at the same time)15:31
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apevecso yes, current approach was to fork problematic project (currently osc)15:32
apevecand pin to latest release tag15:32
dmsimardI have a problem with that15:32
apevecbut to build it, we had to delete successfully built commits from dlrn db15:33
number80I agree that's error-prone15:33
dmsimardWe have no visibility on the problems between <release tag> and <latest commit>15:33
apevecjpena, please summarize your proposal15:33
dmsimardIn that sense, it's as bad as having no consistent for a long period of time15:33
jpenamy idea was that, in these cases, we:15:33
jpenaa) temporarily disable the pinned project in rdoinfo (setting a tag)15:33
apevecdmsimard, yes, but that's projects which don't seem to care about their tip of master branch15:33
dmsimardapevec: I don't think these projects don't care15:34
jpenab) have the pinned rpm in an overrides repo, included in delorean-deps.repo15:34
apevecdmsimard, so time to fix is unkown15:34
apevecunknown even15:34
dmsimardapevec: for that particular issue, dtroyer was relatively quick in understanding the issue and pushing a fix for review15:34
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dmsimardapevec: If that use case had testing coverage, it probably wouldn't have merged in the first place15:34
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apevecideally we help upstream fix it and improve coverage15:35
trownthe osc issues plagued us for a week... pretty hard to have a weekly promote if a single issue takes a week to resolve15:35
apevecbut if that takes more than few days, we need planB solution15:35
dmsimardtrown: so pinning a package is the same as promoting an inconsistent repo, then ?15:35
trownmore than 2 days is dire15:35
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apevecdmsimard, not quite15:36
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apevecwe pin to release tag, which is what upstream gate is actually using15:36
trownbecause it is rare we go more than 2 days without something breaking, so the cycle can repeat15:36
dmsimardI would think upstream gate uses trunk, no ?15:36
apevecthis would be restricted to dep libs only15:36
trowndmsimard: nope, not for libs15:36
apevecdmsimard, not for libs15:36
dmsimardWhy would upstream gate devstack use released projects ?15:36
number80well, if we keep building every commit in pinned package to track progress (at least display the build state in reporting), I'm fine15:36
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apevecnumber80, we don't15:36
apevecwe pin it to a tag15:37
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apevecit's exceptional state15:37
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amoralejwith jpena's proposed solution we don't build any new commit15:37
apevecand we need to remove it as soon as fix lands on master15:37
number80I mean w/ jpena b. proposal, it'd be possible15:37
trownI actually think we might be better served to follow upstream here and put libs into deps repo15:37
apevecnumber80, it's both15:38
number80trown: master release for libs are too often broken15:38
apevecstep a and step b15:38
number80suse and mirantis had issue recently w/ oslo.cache changes15:38
trownnumber80: right but at least if a release is broken we have a leg to stand on when bringing the issue upstream15:38
trownnumber80: if master is broken... there is not much urgency15:39
apevecok, let's then make a list,15:39
apevecof projects in rdoinfo which are used from pypi in the gate15:39
trownputting them in deps repo does then require a deps promotion pipeline, but we want that anyways15:39
dmsimardso how does upstream test when they bump a lib release ?15:39
apevecthat's oslo and clients15:39
dmsimardbrb kid school (last day at school!)15:40
apevecdmsimard, it's whatever that projects' have in their gate15:40
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rbowenWow. Our kids were out almost a month ago.15:40
apevecso conclusion?15:42
apevecmove all of oslo and clients out of rdoinfo ?15:42
apevecbut then, how do we keep track of master changes?15:42
trownit might be a bit complicated issue to resolve in meeting... maybe we should push to ML?15:42
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jpena+1 to trown's proposal15:43
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apevecjpena, ok, since this was your topic, please start thread on rdo-list :)15:43
number80'm -1 to remove oslo libs from DLRN15:43
jpenaapevec: ack15:43
jpena#action jpena to start thread on rdo-list about pinned packages15:43
apevecyeah, I'm -1 too for now, but let's discuss details on hte list15:43
apevec#topic Add openstack-macros in CBS cloud SIG buildroot15:44
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apevec+2 !15:44
apevecand let's migrate all of rdo-rpm-macros to that15:44
number80#action number80 migrate rdo-rpm-macros to openstack-macros15:44
apevecnumber80, ^ this build is pure current upstream?15:45
number80apevec: yes, it's to allow jpena to move forward w/ DLRN/rpm-packaging support15:45
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apevecjpena, ^ anything else blocking you on that support?15:46
number80I'll handle the transition as we can't have the same macros defined twice in buildroot15:46
jpenaapevec: we need that, merge and then we can setup a test instance15:46
number80this one need second opinion but it works and does not break existing feature15:46
apevec#action apevec to review dlrn rpm-packaging support
apevecok, next15:47
apevec#topic How to raise an alert when RDO Trunk repos are broken15:48
rbowenWe need another bot!15:48
jpenathis came up today, since the keystonemiddleware thing broke current-passed-ci and current-tripleo15:48
apevecbut how do you define "broken" ?15:48
trownapevec: is this current-passed-ci broken? or current?15:48
trownah, thanks jpena15:48
jpenaat a minimum: broken symlinks, anything that prevents a package from being read15:48
apevecso repoclosure?15:49
apevecwe need to define a probe15:49
jpenaapevec: that would be ok. If we can run a probe there, and email rdo-list when it fails, it would be good15:49
apeveclight enough i.e. not full CI pipeline :)15:49
jpenathe idea is not to only alert us, but also rdo trunk consumers15:49
apevecI'd like this to be part of overall monitoring15:49
apevecwhich is based on sensu15:50
apevecnot just one-off script somewhere15:50
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jpenathat makes sense, yes15:50
* trown is tempted to action dmsimard in his absence15:50
* jpena too15:50
apevecdmsimard, ^ when you're back, suggestions welcome how to put this into sensu15:50
apevectrown, jpena ack :)15:50
number80remember that he'll be in PTO next week :)15:51
apevec#action dmsimard to suggest lightweight sensu probe for basic rdo repo consistency check15:51
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apevecnumber80, there's still enough hours until next week :)15:51
trownhe can always re-delegate :)15:51
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apevec#topic Test Day15:52
apevecrbowen, ^15:52
rbowenSo, first thing was stats from the last test day, just FYI15:52
rbowenWe have traditionally not even done a milestone 1 test day, so it's not really surprising that numbers were down.15:52
rbowenBut we need to try to spread the word a little wider for M2, if possible.15:53
apevecless tickets might mean openstack is maturing :)15:53
rbowenLike, I kind of missed notifying various places like CentOS and Fedora this time.15:53
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rbowenSo, just wanted to get the date out there early so that we can get some wider participation.15:53
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rbowenAnd, as always, improve test case documentation15:53
rbowen /EOL15:53
apevecack for July 21/22 dates15:54
apeveclet's keep upstream milestone + 1 week15:54
rbowenok, I'll start getting the word out on that date.15:54
apevecthat's month from now15:54
apevecrbowen, action it :)15:54
rbowenI'll be at RHSummit all next week, so will be somewhat unresponsive for the next little bit.15:54
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rbowen#action rbowen to promote Newton Milestone 2 test day, July 21/2215:54
apevec#topic Chair for next meeting15:55
imcsk8i'll do it15:55
* chandankumar would like to chair15:55
imcsk8i feel bad for sepping dong during this meeting15:55
apevecchandankumar, you'll get week after :)15:55
apevecimcsk8, no worries15:55
apevecjust fix those tubes for the next week ;)15:55
apevec#info imcsk8 is chair June 2915:56
apevec#info chandankumar is chair July 615:56
apevec#topic Open Floor15:56
apevecanything else, for few minutes left?15:56
imcsk8just one thing15:56
imcsk8the packstack refactor15:57
apevecmerge it! :)15:57
imcsk8there's concerns about not having storage host15:57
apevecthat can be followup15:57
apevecwe will not release this15:57
apevecfolks using it will stay on released version15:57
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imcsk8ah and other thing hehee15:58
apevecjpena, ^ you're fine w/ followup ?15:58
jpenaand remember, separate storage host support was deprecated long time ago, so they can expect it to break ;)15:58
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jpenaapevec: sure, it should be a followup15:58
apevecimcsk8, what's the other thing?16:00
imcsk8we can address it after ending the meeting16:00
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apevecthanks everyone16:00
apevecright on time :)16:00
trownwell chaired16:00
imcsk8apevec: i'll send the mail16:00
imcsk8with the minute16:01
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amoralejapevec, trown, EmilienM, the fix for osc has been merged16:01
apevecamoralej, does it work?16:01
EmilienMamoralej: did you test it?16:01
amoralejunpin or wait until promotion?16:01
amoraleji test it with packstack16:01
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apevecit-worked-in-packstack? :)16:02
amoralejand worked16:02
apevectrown, ^ what do you say?16:02
EmilienMif it works in packstack16:02
EmilienMit works for us in puppet & tripleo I'm quite sure16:02
apeveclast blocker for promotion was THT ?16:02
trownlets wait for promotion :)16:02
trownTHT change merged just waiting on dlrn to build it16:02
EmilienMapevec: blocker fixed, we landed the patch16:02
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apevecpromote a day, keeps openstack bugs away!16:03
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amoralejapevec, rdo and trunk
EmilienMapevec: what is happenning?
amoralejEmilienM, what repo is that16:05
amoralejthat's the keystonemw issue...16:06
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EmilienMah o16:06
EmilienMit's old repo then16:06
EmilienMwe need to promote asap...16:06
apevecamoralej, who is who? :)16:07
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apevecamoralej, jpena - oh, btw, THANKS for 2:1 last night :P16:07
* apevec runs16:07
amoralejwell apevec, congrats for that16:08
amoralejyou have a clean path at least to semifinals16:08
EmilienMtrown: puppet Ci won't promote today, our CI is really dead16:08
EmilienMtrown: and I'm leaving office earlier today so will continue tonight or tomorrow.16:08
amoralejEmilienM, how did you pick the repo to use for that test?16:09
EmilienMamoralej: we update repos every week by taking latest16:10
* number80 remembers that Croatia finished 3rd at last world cup in France16:10
amoralejok, then it's that16:10
EmilienMamoralej: ack16:10
amoralejyou can get consistent now16:10
imcsk8mexico lost 7-0 against chile XXXD16:12
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amoralejimcsk8, but Sergio Perez did 3rd in F116:15
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imcsk8i'm not very fond of football but most mexicans are16:17
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apevecimcsk8, same here, it was just too good opportunity to poke fun at .es folks ;)16:25
imcsk8yeah hehehe16:25
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jpenaapevec: I remember a certain Eurocup where the Swiss guys were so happy they beat Spain :P16:26
jpenaor was it a world cup?16:26
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apevechehe, I knew it would backfire :)16:30
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imcsk8i like to watch the X games better16:32
amoralejCroatia has a good team this year16:32
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jschlueternumber80/apevec: has there been any talk of getting python-shade into RDO to be able to better leverage ansible 2.0 ?17:51
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number80jschlueter: there was, but the question is where to put ansible?17:53
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jschlueternumber80: yea, the one justifcation for having python-shade packaged is to allow to be used17:54
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trownjschlueter: better leverage ansible 2.0 in what sense?17:54
jschlueteransible can be installed on remote system to talk to a stack, but if you want to use os_server_facts you need shade and python installed on the node17:54
trownah right17:54
jschlueterInfraRed I believe is attempting to use os_server_facts for one of it's steps and I'd love it if we could just install the package rather than pip, virtualenv, shade, gcc, python-devel on a node just to use os_server_facts17:55
jschlueterafazekas: ^^17:55
jschlueterI notice there was a package for shade in fedora
afazekasjruzicka: ^17:57
jschlueterlarsks, and pabelanger are package admins for that package17:58
amullerEmilienM: re:
openstackLaunchpad bug 1595228 in tripleo "[RFE] Add a way to figure out the TripleO version from an overcloud node" [Undecided,New]17:58
amullerEmilienM: does tripleo install any packages on overcloud nodes?17:59
amullerEmilienM: I mean any tripleo packages :)17:59
larsksjschlueter: indeed, although mostly pabelanger once I did the initial packaging...17:59
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trownamuller: os-collect-config and os-refresh-config are installed there17:59
EmilienMright but I realized, no tht17:59
trownya no tht17:59
jschlueterlarsks: just wondering how much work it would be to get it included in cloud7-openstack-common18:00
amullertflink: so one could rpm -qa os-collect-config to figure out which tripleo version installed the node18:00
EmilienMso the problem is solve is "I'm logged on a overcloud node, and I need to know which tripleo version I'm running"18:00
amullerEmilienM: yeah... which tripleo installed this node18:00
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amullerEmilienM: when you don't have access to the undercloud18:00
trownya, I actually would like to write a /etc/openstack-release file for that purpose18:00
EmilienMI don't think we should rely on os-collect-config18:01
trownbut os-collect-config could be a proxy in the short term18:01
EmilienMtrown: something done by packaging18:01
amullertrown: would it contain both the openstack release as well as the tripleo release?18:01
EmilienMwith a list of refs maybe18:01
amullertrown: there are two independent things18:01
amullertrown: these*18:01
larskstrown: I want the  packaging to write an /etc/openstack-release file, owned by the openstack-release package...18:01
EmilienMamuller: could be, yes18:01
amullerlarsks: :)18:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1595228 in tripleo "[RFE] Add a way to figure out the TripleO version from an overcloud node" [Undecided,New]18:02
trownlarsks: ya, that is what I am thinking of as well. amuller you are instead wanting to know what version of openstack the undercloud used to deploy the overcloud?18:02
trowndoes that matter?18:02
larsksamuller: but that is tragically filed against tripleo, and I am claiming that this is a distribution packaging problem, not a tripleo problem...18:02
* trown reads the bug instead of asking questions that are probably addressed there :P18:03
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trownthere is actually nothing on the overcloud that deterministically tells what version of undercloud deployed it18:04
trownsince packages are installed at image build time, not at deploy time18:05
amullertrown: That is what I would like to see addressed for the use cases I explained in the RFE report18:05
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trownso even if you had newton os-collect-config, that just says you have a newton image... it could have still been deployed (though I doubt it would work) with mitaka undercloud18:05
amullertrown: it would have have the implicit functionality of knowing if the node in question was installed via tripleo at all, and if so, which version18:06
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trownamuller: ya, I think it would have to be solved via THT/puppet so that the file (or whatever mechanism) was written at deploy time18:06
amullertrown: right18:06
amullertrown: OK, what would be the right component then on launchpad?18:07
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trownamuller: the bug is in the right place, I will put some comments there18:07
amullertrown: Thank you :)18:07
amullertrown: To be clear this is an 'open' RFE, I do not intend to implement this myself, but I thought I would ask for this, since I think it's useful and I've seen this requested multiple times by different people.18:08
trownamuller: ya, I dont have cycles to work on it myself atm, but I can help clarify the request and why it would be useful :)18:08
zodbotamuller: Karma for trown changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle):
amullerSo we do karma per Fedora release cycle in RDO? =D18:09
EmilienMtrown: 332820 is in gate which means we're promoting Puppet CI to latest trunk right now18:09
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trownwoot woot18:09
EmilienMstupid question, do we still pin osclient?18:09
amullertrown: I imagine this would not be super complicated to implement, there's a bunch of newish tripleo developers... Is there a way to highlight 'low hanging fruit' in tripleo?18:09
trownamuller: we dont currently use that tag, but it might be good to start18:10
amullertrown: One last question :) Is a launchpad bug with an RFE tag in the title an appropriate way to file an RFE for tripleo?18:11
trownamuller: it is what I would do :), I will set importance to wishlist also18:12
amullertrown: right on, thanks :)18:12
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amullerevery community has its own way... It's what makes openstack great :)18:12
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dmsimardtrown: no pressure but if ooo-q succeeds we have a promotion18:26
trowndmsimard: ya, I have both job consoles up, and am doing the rain dance18:27
dmsimardtrown: ah so you're more a "dance of the rain" kinda guy than, say, astrology like EmilienM ?18:27
dmsimardEmilienM tends to rely on the stars a lot.18:27
dmsimardAnd rainbow colors.18:27
trownI will take any cultures good luck rituals if it makes the promote job pass18:28
leanderthal|afkwait, what?18:30
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trownleanderthal: what would your choice of good luck ritual be?18:31
dmsimardoh, trown, you mean you're dancing with leanderthal ?18:31
trownlol, it took me way to long to grok the connection18:31
leanderthaltrown, dmsimard
leanderthali *might* have a history.18:32
trownnow that is a rain dance18:33
leanderthaltrue story.18:33
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amoralej|offtrown, no luck yet
trownamoralej|off: well that was at least a deploy failure, so either something new or something transient... looking closer18:50
amoralej|offwe are much closer that yesterday, :)18:50
trownamoralej|off: it is the 'no valid host' race that hits about 1/4 jobs, so we still might be good, will kick a new run18:51
amoralej|offsounds good18:51
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pabelangerjschlueter: Yup, I haven't pushed an updated recently. Something needed?19:05
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jschlueterpabelanger: is python-shade in RDO? and I missed it in my checks?19:12
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pabelangerjschlueter: I don't think so. I've just push updates to epel719:24
pabelangerand fedora19:24
pabelangerwas a dependency for ansible and nodepool19:24
jschlueterpabelanger: ack that's what I thought, it wasn't in RDO at all thanks19:24
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trownhmm HA job failed with keystone issue in deploy... Error: /Stage[main]/Keystone::Roles::Admin/Keystone_tenant[admin]: Could not evaluate: Command: 'openstack [\"project\", \"set\", [\"7498d33e27714f529a1b7c62e6a76a71\", \"--description=admin tenant\"]]' has been running for more then 20 seconds!19:29
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eggmasterI'm trying to use local dlrn to build manila for mitaka (because I want to stage a review locally and get an RPM). I changed projects.ini to source=stable/mitaka. I checked out rpm-mitaka branch in openstack-manila_distro. I run 'dlrn --config projects.ini --dev --local --package-name openstack-manila' and I get 'ERROR:dlrn:Known error building packages for openstack-manila, will retry later' and this stacktrace in rpmbuild.log19:35
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dmsimardeggmaster: looks like an aborted build that resulted in an unclean mock root unmount19:55
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dmsimardeggmaster: have you tried unmounting the mock root manually ?19:55
eggmasterdmsimard: thank you I'll try that19:55
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dmsimardtrown: :(19:59
eggmasterdmsimard: that cleared it, thx again20:00
dmsimardeggmaster: cool !20:00
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trowndmsimard: I am running a local HA run on the same image that failed to check if there is a real issue or not20:05
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dmsimardtrown: dance harder !20:09
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trowndmsimard: I am doing this
trownhopefully it works20:11
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dmsimardtrown: wow, you can do that with your hat on ?20:13
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dmsimardmad skills20:13
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trowndmsimard: local run passed, so hopefully we have paid our race condition tax and the current run will end in promote20:38
* trown keeps spinning20:38
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dmsimardI want this promote to happen to see if it fixes weird issues in the weirdo gate jobs20:39
dmsimardweirdo gate jobs shouldn't fail in theory because they use current-passed-ci but they're sort of flappy20:39
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dmsimardwhich shouldn't happen20:39
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trownit is a bit rough that one of the chassis' in CI have so much better CPUs20:40
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number80pradk: are you working on packaging pifpaf?20:45
pradknumber80, its on my list, we need it soon?20:46
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dmsimardtrown: weirdo puppet jobs *might* fail, maybe, maybe not20:46
pradknumber80, i can get something out this week20:46
number80pradk: preferably before or not too long after M220:46
number80trown: it's a french pun20:47
trown ?20:47
trownthat came up in google image search for pif paf20:47
number80it's more like "bang bang"20:47
dmsimardyeah pif paf in french is like onomatopoeia for punches20:48
dmsimardtrown: we discovered more network problems outbound from the cloud20:49
number80well, I don't need anyone to tell me who wrote this piece of code20:49
dmsimardtrown: need to wait for IT to come back to the centos team ;(20:49
pradknumber80, i'll get on it asap, thx20:50
pradknumber80, we want this in fedora first right?20:50
trownhow is there nothing describing why it is called pifpaf
number80pradk: yes but set me as a reviewer so that we can get this out sooner20:51
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pradknumber80, sure20:51
number80I'm still surprised that we didn't break CI20:51
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number80dmsimard: we don't test aodh right?20:52
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dmsimardnumber80: we do20:52
dmsimardnumber80: through both packstack and p-o-i20:52
number80weird, it should have detected that we don't have pifpaf20:52
dmsimardisn't pifpaf their unit test harness thingie ?20:52
dmsimardI haven't read into it20:52
dmsimardtoo much20:52
number80it's an utility to run daemons for testing, so you were not too far20:53
dmsimardWe don't run unit tests, only integration tests20:53
number80that explains it20:54
dmsimardso unless it's a hard dependency (like, say, eventlet or whatever) we won't see it20:54
number80well, I suspect that internal QA would want it anyway20:54
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number80I'd like that we get all missing deps packaged before M320:55
number80Milestone 320:56
trownah, I have been doing it wrong20:56
number80I know that after that, I'll be machine-gunning builds like crazy20:57
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number80all RC, point-releases, ensure that repo are consistent etc ...20:57
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trownpew pew pew... or is it pif pif paf21:03
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* trown leaves before making any more dumb jokes...21:03
trownwill check on promote this evening to cry or rejoice as appropriate21:04
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number80trown|outtypewww: actually, there's a virtualenvwrapper-like tool named pew21:11
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dmsimardtrown|outtypewww: one is green, one to go !22:09
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apevecStack overcloud CREATE_FAILED22:26
apevecDeployment exited with non-zero status code: 622:27
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miscmhh so to deploy the dashboards of rdo, I need to install ruby gems22:35
miscso I need gcc on the webserver22:36
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miscthat's annoying22:36
apevecalso annoying, html quoting on the mailing list :)22:38
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apevecdmsimard, it's the same "running for more then 20 seconds"22:39
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