Monday, 2016-01-18

openstackgerritFei Long Wang proposed openstack/python-zaqarclient: Support claims for v2  https://review.openstack.org/26566300:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/zaqar: Make zaqar-bench use credentials from os_client_config  https://review.openstack.org/25505101:07
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/zaqar: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/26855201:48
Eva-iflwang: flwang1: would you like to confirm this documentation bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/153485202:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1534852 in openstack-manuals "Add more information about storage options in Zaqar config-ref" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Eva Balycheva (ubershy)02:44
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flwang1Eva-i: done, btw02:48
flwang1i think backend is not a big deal, anybody complain that?02:48
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Eva-iflwang1: thank you. Doc team people complained about "backend", when config-ref was under the review, but not all typos were fixed and the patch still merged.02:51
flwang1Eva-i: ah, i see, alright02:51
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openstackgerritMD NADEEM proposed openstack/python-zaqarclient: Fixing the deprecated library function  https://review.openstack.org/26619803:09
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openstackgerritEva Balycheva proposed openstack/zaqar: WIP: Add Zaqar production installation guide  https://review.openstack.org/26885103:25
flwang1Eva-i: ooooh, we're getting it back?03:25
Eva-iflwang1: yes, temporarily, as you asked before. Is it too late?03:27
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flwang1Eva-i: no, i'm happy to see it. but let's see vkmc's comment03:31
Eva-iflwang1: vkmc is okay with that afaik, I talked with her03:48
Eva-iflwang1: even if installation guide patch is in WIP state, I'd like to hear your advices on how to make it better/working03:48
Eva-iflwang1: if you want, I can try to install Zaqar by using this guide to find obstacles.03:49
flwang1Eva-i: oh, if you can give the installation guide a try, it would be awesome03:55
flwang1Eva-i: log off to pick up my boy, ttyl03:56
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openstackgerritEva Balycheva proposed openstack/zaqar: Fix zaqar-bench auth method detection  https://review.openstack.org/26886404:58
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/zaqar: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/26857106:06
openstackgerritEva Balycheva proposed openstack/zaqar: Add new information to zaqar-bench tutorial  https://review.openstack.org/26889406:37
openstackgerritEva Balycheva proposed openstack/zaqar: Add new information to zaqar-bench tutorial  https://review.openstack.org/26889406:40
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Eva-iHello15:01
Eva-iWhen will be today's meeting?15:02
Eva-iIsn't it going now?15:03
vkmcI think today is at 21UTC15:04
Eva-ivkmc: oki15:05
ryansbostensibly it started 5 mins ago15:05
ryansbaccording to the http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ ical15:06
vkmcflwang1, ^15:06
ryansbtoday's a 1500UTC week15:06
therveYeah it definitely ought to be now15:06
Eva-itherve ryansb vkmc: okay, let's go then to the meeting room?15:07
vkmclet's do so15:07
* ryansb is there15:07
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed openstack/zaqar: Use default pool for queue listing  https://review.openstack.org/26916516:09
therveEva-i, If you can have a look ^^^16:09
therveI think it fixes the issue you linked earlier16:09
Eva-itherve: wow, great. I'll try to review it now.16:12
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting quickly as a workaround for performance degradation16:50
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flwang1vkmc: ryansb: i'm a little bit confused19:56
flwang1about the meeting time19:56
vkmcyo yo yo19:56
vkmcyeah me too19:56
vkmchow are you flwang1?19:56
Eva-iflwang1: previously we have attended to the meeting at the right time19:56
flwang1on my calendar, it should be UTC+9:00 for today's meeting19:56
flwang1vkmc: i'm good19:56
Eva-iflwang1: the right time was 21 UTC, so today the meeting is on 15 UTC19:56
flwang1and sorry for missing the meeting19:56
flwang1Eva-i: hmm...19:57
flwang1the last meeting time should be 15UTC, but we changed it to 21UTC since there were some nova guys19:58
ryansbyeah, so it's even & odd weeks19:58
ryansbso the beginning of the year fell on a Friday19:58
ryansbmeaning we had two 15UTC meetings in a row19:58
ryansband making all our calendars confused19:58
Eva-iflwang1: some nova guys were there because it was their meeting time, I guess19:58
ryansbyeah, it was19:59
flwang1so are you guys ok for 21 UTC? and remove the rotation?20:00
Eva-iI'm okay20:00
ryansberr, I think we should keep the rotation since that's what is on eavesdrop.openstack20:00
Eva-iryansb: maybe we should change official schedule?20:01
Eva-iofficially =)20:01
ryansbboth times work for me either week, so I'm fine with either being official20:01
ryansbI just want official and actual to be the same20:01
flwang1ryansb: yep, i think initially the rotation was created to make me(and guys in asia timezone) happy20:02
flwang1now i'm really happy but the rotation is a little bit confused sometimes20:03
ryansbyeah, it's because it's the start of the year20:03
flwang1so maybe we need to figure out a better time20:03
flwang1ok20:03
flwang1let's keep current time then20:03
flwang1at least for Mitaka release20:03
ryansbso we had two 15UTC meetings in a row, which then caused everyone's calendar to be off because the iCal files are just "every other week" events starting from a date, not "every even/odd week in 2016"20:04
flwang1ryansb: i see20:04
flwang1ryansb: vkmc: i'm going to add a 'subscriptions' attributs/methods of queue object, so that when user calling the lib of zaqar client, they can easily list subscriptions of a specific queue.20:30
ryansbok20:31
flwang1does that make sense for you?20:31
flwang1i got this idea from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264309/8/aodh/notifier/zaqar.py  line 106- 11120:32
ryansbI see, so it would just query the server for the subs?20:34
flwang1ryansb: yes20:34
flwang1no change for server side20:34
flwang1just a facility for client side20:35
ryansbsounds good to me20:35
flwang1ryansb: cool, thanks for the feedback20:36
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flwang1vkmc: ryansb: flaper87: therve: Eva-i: do we have any proposal for austin summit?21:34
flwang1https://www.openstack.org/summit-login/login?BackURL=%2Fsummit%2Faustin-2016%2Fcall-for-speakers%2F21:35
flwang1ryansb: still around?21:36
Eva-iflwang1: I need to learn more about openstack summits. I wonder if I can tell people something useful.21:37
Eva-iflwang1: I will think about your idea21:38
flwang1Eva-i: heh, cool21:38
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openstackgerritThai Tran proposed openstack/zaqar-ui: WIP Add queues API and table  https://review.openstack.org/25847422:20
openstackgerritThai Tran proposed openstack/zaqar-ui: Add queues API and table  https://review.openstack.org/25847422:21
therveflwang1, I'll actually try to send a zaqar in heat proposal22:27
therveNot sure when's the deadline22:27
flwang1therve: any more details?22:27
flwang1the deadline is 1 Feb, IIRC22:27
flwang1therve: btw, it would be great if you can give us an update about the usage status of zaqar in heat22:28
therveflwang1, Come to my summit talk :D22:28
flwang1haha22:28
flwang1therve: in short, are you guys happy or not ?22:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/zaqar-ui: Re-enabling checkout and small fixes  https://review.openstack.org/26782022:29
flwang1therve: i didn't read the code of heat with zaqar, so i'm wondering if heat is running into the issue like the other components who want to integrate with zaqar22:29
flwang1that's what i really want to know22:29
therveflwang1, I'm pretty happy. I don't think we've had much/any usage in the wild though22:30
therveThe last feature I wrote may be more appealing22:30
flwang1therve: cool22:31
flwang1for example, now ceilometer/aodh want to use zaqar as the notifier of alarm22:31
* therve nods22:31
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flwang1that will use the subscriptions of zaqar, but you know, zaqar is a multi-tenancy service, so when the service/admin user of aodh create a queue which won't be accessiable by the tenant user22:32
flwang1so now the solution is just let the service user create a queue for each alarm and subscribe the queue based on the alarm info22:33
flwang1it's not really bad since it works fine.22:33
flwang1but it still triggers me some thoughts22:33
therveThey should use trust22:33
flwang1therve: yep, that's the current suggestion22:34
therveI'm not sure I understand the solution22:34
flwang1but your solution is correct :)22:35
flwang1is heat using trust when integrate with zaqar?22:36
therveIf needed, yes22:36
therveBut heat knows all the keystone tricks that exist22:36
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therveheat also uses domains to have dedicated queues per server, that works pretty well (now that I fixed my initial broken implementation)22:39
flwang1therve: ah, so you guys are using domain, that's awsome22:39
therveYeah we never use the service user to talk to zaqar, actually22:41
flwang1therve: oh, actually, heat is using the current user's token to talk with zaqar, right?22:41
flwang1i mean the tenant user22:41
therveflwang1, If it's still available, yes22:41
flwang1therve: got, that's cool22:42
flwang1therve: btw, i would like to get your feed back about a change i would like to make for subscription's tll22:42
flwang1ttl22:42
flwang1therve: i would like to -1 TTL to get permanent subscription, does that make sense for you?22:42
flwang1IMHO, the subscription should not be expired frequently like a msg22:43
flwang1so i think some of the users may want a permanent subscription, but that's just a developer's PoV22:43
flwang1thoughts?22:43
therveAny reason we can't make it optional?22:45
flwang1pls define 'optional' ;)22:45
flwang1therve: just skip it?22:46
therveI mean, instead of having -1 being permanent, None would be22:46
flwang1therve: you mean if user don't specify it, then it would be permanent ?22:46
therveRight22:46
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flwang1that's a good option i think22:46
therveWe'd have to check how that works underneath22:47
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flwang1therve: sure, thanks for the feedback22:49
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed openstack/zaqar: Use default pool for queue listing  https://review.openstack.org/26916522:56
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Eva-iflwang1: look, it's just like me when I find a bug: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-aRxueDTHjlA/Vp1hpehrqfI/AAAAAAAAAC4/Csg7e3R0iTg/s1600/buglizard.gif (44 MB)23:51

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