Monday, 2019-09-09

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spotzhey belmoreira how was the vacation?14:56
belmoreirahi spotz. It was good. Thank you.14:57
belmoreirathanks for the agenda14:57
spotzNP, figured it would keep us on track14:58
spotzhey melsakhawy14:59
melsakhawyhey Amy !14:59
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jamesmcarthurHi everyone :)15:00
spotzhey jamesmcarthur15:00
studarusHola15:00
spotzLooks like everyone is here. jayahn is here too15:01
spotz#startmeeting uc15:02
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep  9 15:02:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'uc'15:02
spotz#chair spotz belmoreira melsakhawy studarus jayahn15:02
openstackCurrent chairs: belmoreira jayahn melsakhawy spotz studarus15:02
spotz#topic ROll Call15:02
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belmoreirao/15:02
studaruso/15:02
spotzQuick agenda is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc15:02
melsakhawyo/15:02
spotzHopefully jayahn will unidle but we do have a quorum15:04
studaruswe are missing our new member!15:04
spotz#topic Welcome new members15:05
*** openstack changes topic to "Welcome new members (Meeting topic: uc)"15:05
spotzWell he's in channel but might be asleep due to time difference15:05
studarusWelcome jayahn!15:05
belmoreira+115:05
studaruswhich takes us to the next topic, best meeting times?15:06
spotzOne of the reasons I thought we might want to readdress meeting times as belmoreira is Europe and jayahn is Asia15:06
studarus#topic meeting time selection15:06
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studarusso we need CET, Korea, and PDT?15:07
melsakhawyyeah and EST as well15:07
spotzWe'll need to put it on the mailing list I think and then a poll as not everyone is here. But originally we had 2 meeting times, one week it was this time or an hour earlier and the other it was a few hours later15:08
spotzThe problem was it wasn't technically every other week and we'd get mixed up:)15:08
studarusI'm fine with a 5am PDT15:09
spotzIf we do decide to do something like that I would suggest not meeting on any 5th Mondays15:09
studarus5am PDT would be 9pm Seoul and 2pm western europe15:09
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studarus5am PDT would be 9pm Seoul and 2pm western europe, 7am Texas, and 8am EDT15:10
spotzI have a 7 m/w/f already15:10
belmoreiraIt's OK for me15:11
studarusso a Tuesday or Thursday then?15:11
melsakhawy8 am EDT works as well15:11
belmoreiraTuesday would be better15:12
spotzLet's put a poll up with options, as well as the split times as an option15:12
belmoreiraspotz +115:12
melsakhawy+115:12
spotzjayahn isn't hear so picking the wrong time for him would make this pointless15:12
spotzhere too:(15:12
studaruspoll via the mail list?15:13
spotzwel we'll email but generally we use doodle15:13
spotzso you can put up lots of options. May start with 1 meeting vs 2 meetings then pick times15:13
spotzand by 2 meetings different weeks not 2 a day15:13
studarusok - I can setup a Doodle and send it out15:14
spotzOk15:14
spotz#topic Chair and co-chair15:14
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spotzI had this higher on the agenda so we can nominate and choose new leadership for the group and so they could take over the meeting if they wanted:)15:15
melsakhawyI guess we can see who's interested ?15:16
studarusdo we have definitions for what the chair and co-chair are required to do?15:16
studarussetup agenda each week, start meeting, do role call?15:16
studarussetup agenda each week, start meeting, do roll call?15:16
spotzIdeally it would be nice to have 1 person from each election so wouldn't up with no leadership again but at the same time not sure it's fair to throw someone in who hasn't even seen real meetings:)15:17
melsakhawy"The UC chair is responsible for making sure meetings are held according to the rules described below, and for communicating the decisions taken during those meetings to the Board of Directors and the OpenStack community at large."15:17
melsakhawycharter :)15:17
melsakhawy@spotz agrred15:18
melsakhawy*agreed15:18
spotzstudarus Sometimes works behind the scenes with the foundation, jamesmcarthur can maybe tqalk on that15:18
studarusah - that means the presentataions at the Summit board meetings15:20
jamesmcarthurThe reason we have a co-chair was to have  backup in the even thte chair is unable to run the meetings15:20
jamesmcarthurand also to help split some of the workload15:20
jamesmcarthurco-chair wasn't in teh original bylaws15:21
spotzstudarus Or at other times but yeah we usually have a few people at the Joint Leadership meeting15:22
spotzSo how do we want to proceed?15:25
belmoreiraIt's unfortunate that jayahn didn't join the meeting. How do we proceed? We go for a nomination/election?15:25
studarusso the floor is open for self-nominations...15:25
melsakhawyI am interested in running for vice chair , will be a good learning curve as a new member and could add some value as a new eye15:26
spotzI'll nom as either role as oldest person still on the UC15:27
studarusany other nominations?15:29
spotzbelmoreira, studarus - nominating?15:31
belmoreirabelmoreira I won't self nominate15:32
spotzstudarus?15:32
studarusin that case, I'd like to nominate belmoreira15:33
belmoreiraahah :)15:33
belmoreiraI would prefer that someone else take this role15:34
studaruswell, then I propose a vote on the current slate15:34
jamesmcarthurshould we not wait for Jaesuk?15:35
studaruswe have a quorum.  But if someone wants to make a motion to table this item, we can take a vote to table it a week.15:37
spotzI'm ok with either but would like us to not idle like we did for most of this summer so wouldn't postpone more then a week15:38
jamesmcarthurIt just seems that, as a brand new member, we should give him an opportunity to weigh in on the elections15:39
apricemaybe put it on the UC ML and say that a vote will happen at next week's meeting15:39
jamesmcarthurEsp since he's in a completely different time zone15:40
studarusbelmoreira melsakhawy would either of you like to make a motion to take a vote to postpone this a week?15:40
belmoreirait's fair if we wait until next meeting15:40
melsakhawyyeah , lets do that15:40
spotzOk we'll leave that for next week15:41
spotz#topic FOrum Selection committee15:41
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spotzjamesmcarthur: I emailed you last week to find out but did you get another volunteer fromt he UC?15:42
jamesmcarthurno ma'am15:42
belmoreiraif there is a spot I would like to volunteer15:42
spotzAnd if anyone else would like to I'll step down15:42
studarusI submitted a forum topic so I have a conflict of interest15:43
jamesmcarthurbelmoreira: you're in :)15:44
jamesmcarthurstudarus: it's ok if you want to volunteer, even if you submit15:44
studarusI'm ok - you've got volunteers15:45
spotzmelsakhawy You interested?15:46
melsakhawynope, will be watching for the first while15:46
spotz#topic User Survey15:47
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spotzaprice is it still open and do you need anything from us?15:47
apricethe 2019 version is closed15:47
apricethe 2020 version is fully up and running15:47
apricejamesmcarthur and I are doing an initial review of the data and feedback this week and can circle back once we have that pulled together15:48
spotzOk cool15:48
apricewe ended up with around 480 deployments this year15:48
spotzvs howmany last year?15:48
apricewhile that is a lot lower than previous years, we actually ended up with a lot of NEW deployments logged15:48
apricelast year was around 90015:48
apriceso we were thinking that instead of doing a full report like we have done in the past, we may do a lighter weight superuser article or something that points to the analytics dashboard15:49
apriceso yes, no action items right now15:50
apricebut speaking of the user survey15:50
apricemelsakhawy: we will need you to sign a confidentiality agreement as we kick this off15:50
melsakhawysounds good , via email  ?15:51
apriceit's not limited to the user survey, but members of the UC often participate in projects like the user survey where confidentiality is critical15:51
apriceyep - ill reach out to you and jaesuk via email15:51
apricethat's it for the user survey15:51
apriceunless anyone has questions15:51
spotz#topic Open Discussion15:53
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jamesmcarthurI have to bounce to another meeting15:53
studarusmeeting time for next week...15:53
studarusshould we move it up 3 hours to better accomodate jayahn?15:54
studarusone time deal15:54
melsakhawyfine with me15:54
belmoreira+1 but we need to make sure that he can actually join at that time15:55
studarusI'll check with him15:56
spotzYeah otherwise no point in changing15:56
studarusok, I'll check with him and move it up if it means he will be able to make it15:56
spotzI'll be able to pop in for a few minutes but like I said I already have one at that time15:56
spotzI could do 2 hours earlier possibly15:58
spotzBut we have 2 minutes, why don't we discuss on the ML?15:59
melsakhawy+115:59
belmoreiraat this point ML is the best option15:59
spotzOk ML it is16:01
spotzAs we're out of time16:01
spotz#endmeeting16:01
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Sep  9 16:01:36 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:01
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belmoreiraHave a great week everyone16:01
melsakhawysee you all !16:01
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