Monday, 2019-02-11

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VW_updated the etherpad for today18:55
VW_feel free to add anything18:55
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VW_#startmeeting uc19:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb 11 19:00:41 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'uc'19:00
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VW_#chairs mrhillsman spotz josephrsandoval19:00
VW_#chair mrhillsman spotz josephrsandoval19:01
spotzhey19:01
openstackCurrent chairs: VW_ josephrsandoval mrhillsman spotz19:01
mrhillsmano/19:01
VW_#topic roll call19:01
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spotzo/19:01
VW_o/19:01
josephrsandovalo/19:01
josephrsandovali'm in a allhands. so might be late in responding. thanks for understanding.19:02
VW_no worries19:02
VW_#topic Previous meeting update19:02
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VW_anything besides election / confirmation guidelines that we need to revisit from last week19:03
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leongo/19:05
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VW_guessing not :)19:07
VW_moving on19:07
VW_#topic February election19:07
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jamesmcarthurhi everyone :)19:07
jamesmcarthursorry for the lateness19:07
VW_no worries19:07
spotzhey19:08
VW_so, I put the call out for candidates last week19:08
VW_I haven't seen any yet19:08
leongis this week the deadline?19:10
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VW_yes - by friday19:12
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VW_11:59 UTC19:13
VW_I also need to send out a reminder19:13
VW_unless anyone else has a burning desire to :)19:13
leongsend the reminder to both openstack-discuss and openstack-uc19:13
leonguser-committee19:13
VW_sorry - 05:59 UTC19:13
VW_and Sunday19:14
VW_argh - 2/17 05:59 UTC19:14
VW_I can not do dates today, evidently19:14
spotzI'll get an email out this week, I'm off to the office next week19:15
jamesmcarthurwhat do the bylaws say if there are no volunteers to run?19:15
VW_I don't think they do19:16
VW_but I will study them19:16
spotzI don't think there is anything jamesmcarthur, we weren't sure if we still needed a vote with the candidates equaling the seats last time19:16
VW_#action VW_ study bylaws on lack of candidates and report to list19:16
jamesmcarthurright and I don't think you have to have an election if there are just enough candidates.  But this time, we don't have enough to fill the seats, correct?19:17
leongi will send out my candidacy this week19:17
spotzRight now we have 0 with Leong and I planning to re-run19:18
jamesmcarthurThere are 3 seats up, correct?19:18
leongyup19:19
mrhillsmanyep19:19
spotzYes, mrhillman is not running so even if it's just leong and I to nominate we'd have an open seat19:19
jamesmcarthurGot it. I'll ask around and see if I can drum up some business :)19:19
spotzI found my email from last year so I'll spruce it up:)19:20
spotzMaybe also mention it tomorrow morning at the ops meetup meeting, I believe everyone attending would be eligible19:21
VW_yes - I agree19:22
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VW_anything else election related?19:23
spotzAnd if there's a foundation email going out on Wed add it in there as well?19:23
VW_#Action VW_ follow up with past officials to gather how to info for current ones19:24
spotzVW_: Talk to Ed Leafe, he's done it at least twice19:25
VW_yep - that was my plan :)19:25
VW_ok - moving on19:27
VW_#topic Feedback on Confirmation Guidelines19:28
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VW_I know that leong added some questions.  Did everyone else have a chance to review19:28
VW_?19:28
leong#link Project Confirmation Guidelines: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UCReview-ConfirmationGuidelines19:29
spotzlink?19:29
VW_yes19:30
VW_mrhillsman: that was just a draft for us right19:30
spotzleong's comments are valid, it needs to be measurable but otherwise looks ok19:31
VW_we need to point the committee working on it back at that etherpad19:31
VW_?19:31
mrhillsmansorry, had an overlap19:32
mrhillsmanyes, just a draft19:32
VW_OK - let's set a target of getting back to Allison by Wed19:33
VW_mrhillsman, you and I can sync on it and one of us can notify them19:33
mrhillsmanthere is a little time before the team puts it before the board but anything we can add/comment on is appreciated19:33
mrhillsman++19:33
VW_if anyone still want's to look it over some more, you have a couple of days19:33
mrhillsmansounds good VW_19:33
leongsound good to me19:33
VW_cool19:34
VW_#topic Other Business19:34
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VW_what else do folks have19:34
mrhillsmanif folks are interested or know someone who is19:35
mrhillsmansig-openstack for k8s is looking for some volunteers19:35
mrhillsmanunfortunately as stated i am not sitting on any committees or leading any groups but a request for assistance went out19:36
mrhillsmani know you all are generally busy with what you have now so do not expect you to get involved but spread the word at your respective companies and other open source friends19:36
VW_++19:36
spotzLooks like DT will be sponsoring the food and drinks for the ops meetup FYI19:36
VW_awesome!19:37
leongi will see if i can get any folks to help for sig-openstack-k8s19:37
leongis there any particular needs?19:37
mrhillsmanno particular needs leong19:38
mrhillsmani believe two of the chairs are stepping down for others to step up19:39
leongmrhillsman: any idea what kind of help they are looking for?19:39
leongis one of them david?19:39
mrhillsmanbasically doing things like running meetings, putting together the newsletter, updates when time comes for the k8s community meeting, etc19:39
mrhillsmani think so leong19:39
leongi will check with him and see i can get others o step up19:40
mrhillsmansounds good19:42
mrhillsmanty sir19:43
VW_anything else?19:43
VW_jamesmcarthur, aprice - anything from the foundation19:43
mrhillsmannothing more from me19:44
mrhillsmanoh wait, did we touch on the etherpads from forum for ops meetup?19:44
spotznope19:44
VW_no, but I need to send a note on that too19:44
jamesmcarthurNothing at thsi time.19:45
VW_Chris and I chatted about reaching out to the PTLs last week19:45
mrhillsmanah ok19:45
mrhillsmananything i can take to free you up to focus on that?19:45
VW_#action VW_ email about getting unfinished forum topics in to the etherpad for Ops meetup19:45
VW_can you email ed and our election officials and get hem to help them understand how to set up the poll, etc19:46
VW_maybe we can even start a doc or something for posterity :)19:46
mrhillsmansure, i have never done it but i can19:46
VW_yeah Ed Lief will be able to point everyone in the right direction19:46
mrhillsmani think ed has some experience19:46
VW_I just don't know that we have a doc anywhere19:46
mrhillsman++19:46
VW_we should fix that19:46
mrhillsmani will document it19:47
VW_sweet19:47
mrhillsman#action mrhillsman work with election officials and document process for election officials19:47
VW_you do that, Amy has the reminder for candidates and I'll hit up the devs19:47
mrhillsman++19:47
mrhillsmannothing else from me19:47
VW_alright then, I'll give everyone a few minutes back unless there are objections19:48
mrhillsmanthx for running the show VW_19:48
VW_my pleasure19:48
VW_#endmeeting19:48
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mrhillsmanthx to everyone else and good luck in the election :)19:48
openstackMeeting ended Mon Feb 11 19:48:33 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)19:48
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spotzI'll try to make next week, will be on CET time19:48
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mrhillsman++19:52
spotzOk nomination sent so we have 1, that'll hopefully help get others19:54
VW_oh - yeah - I have a holiday next Monday20:00
VW_so, I may not be online20:00
jproulxSo what's the technical process for certifying UC nominations... :)20:09
jproulxI feel like I _should_ know that, but I don't20:10
spotzAUC status, if you're not sure we can check or technically the election officials would verify20:16
spotzI'm not sure if the ASUC discount codes for summit went out yet, if they did that'd be an easy way:)20:16
jproulxI am an election official :) how do I properly bless your candidacy (once I verify your AUC status of course heh)20:29
jproulxI feel like I may have missed an email20:32
apricespotz: the AUC summit codes went out last week20:40
apricejproulx: jamesmcarthur or I can help you verify AUC status20:40
jproulxthanks aprice, since spotz is currently on UC I think she's an easy one, do you know next steps though? Presumably something needs to be done so that people are listed as candidates and get on the ballot.20:43
jamesmcarthurSo far, the two candidates are both on the UC. So we'll have to wait to see if we get a third by EOW.20:45
jamesmcarthurjproulx: ^20:45
jamesmcarthurBut yes, I'm happy to help verify.20:46
jproulxI missed Joseph's candidacy and I'm a little confused by it now, according to https://governance.openstack.org/uc/ his term isn't up until August.20:50
spotzLeong intends to run he's the second jamesmcarthur is thinking of but hasn't mailed yet20:51
jproulxlooking at Mohamed's response is "confirmation" just one of us replying to list (after verifying if needed)?20:51
jproulxOh! that's why I missed it it *was* in August lol I *am* confused20:52
jamesmcarthurjproulx: there are three seats up - spotz, leong, and mrhillsman.  mrhillsman is not running however.20:52
jproulx^ that matches my expectation of who's up20:53
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jproulxSo "The candidacy is then confirmed by one of the election officials" is just email by an election official to list saying "Thank you. Your candidacy is confirmed" yes?21:01
spotzjproulx: That's pretty much it and then add it to the wiki page21:03
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spotzI cc'ed the other election official just so they would know I'd done it21:04
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jproulxwhich wiki page? looked at a few uc-election-<date>.html pages but those don't seem to list candidates.  Feel like I may be slightly fevered and seriously over complicating this :)21:11
spotzjproulx: looking21:20
spotzjproulx: https://governance.openstack.org/uc/reference/uc-election-feb2019.html21:21
jproulxspotz, thanks I could just email Mohamed as he's other official and officiated last cycle...21:21
spotzjamesmcarthur mrhillsman so in the 2018 page we sent to user-committee, lookking at the 2019 page we changed to the discuss list even though user-committee still exists? Might need to resend21:22
spotzjproulx yeah that'll work21:22
mrhillsmanyes21:23
mrhillsmani think also this year we requested sending to ambassadors/user groups via their ML or any other direct way of contacting them21:23
mrhillsmani believe there is a -community list or another they are on that ashlee oversees21:23
apriceyeah - there is a community list and the ambassador ML21:24
apriceshe's out today, but i will work with her on getting something to those MLs this week21:24
mrhillsmanthx aprice21:24
spotzok gonna forward my email to discuss list to make it official21:46
apricemrhillsman of course!21:51
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