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| spotz | here if we're at 9:) | 14:08 |
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| VW | two weeks ago, we met at 18:00 | 14:24 |
| VW | so, I'm assuming we are on again for that today | 14:24 |
| jamesmcarthur | I thought it was at 9 too | 14:25 |
| jamesmcarthur | but I believe what Melvin sent out indicated 1pm | 14:25 |
| jamesmcarthur | (1800) | 14:25 |
| VW | yep | 14:25 |
| jamesmcarthur | That's what the wiki says :) | 14:25 |
| VW | whew - jamesmcarthur's email scared me for a second | 14:27 |
| VW | thought I had missed the whole election | 14:27 |
| jamesmcarthur | lol | 14:27 |
| jamesmcarthur | Sorry - I crossed the streams. | 14:28 |
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| VW_ | no worries jamesmcarthur - a little panic on Monday morning gets the week going ;) | 14:55 |
| jamesmcarthur | ha | 14:56 |
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| mrhillsman | I'm sorry if I messed it up | 17:44 |
| mrhillsman | I'm going to be distracted trying to get visa | 17:45 |
| mrhillsman | Leong is in China and in bed so he will not make it | 17:46 |
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| spotz | hey jamesmcarthur question, who'd responsible for the projects listed under containers on the o.o site? | 17:59 |
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| spotz | We'll give folks a few minutes otherwise no quorum:( | 18:02 |
| jamesmcarthur | o/ | 18:05 |
| jamesmcarthur | spotz: you mean on the project navigator? | 18:05 |
| spotz | jamesmcarthur: there and https://www.openstack.org/containers/ | 18:05 |
| spotz | Just saying a sweet little project (OSA) is missing in both places under deployment:( | 18:06 |
| jamesmcarthur | ok - i'll pass that along | 18:06 |
| jamesmcarthur | thanks! | 18:06 |
| spotz | My pleasure to send you more work:) | 18:06 |
| spotz | mrhillsman: VW_ y'all awake? | 18:07 |
| VW_ | si! | 18:07 |
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| spotz | zioproto: you awake? | 18:08 |
| jamesmcarthur | Leong is OOO I believe | 18:08 |
| spotz | I keep forgetting to look at the top of the list for names in my chat client | 18:08 |
| spotz | yeah, he's on a plane | 18:08 |
| spotz | We need to get going on the next steps for the election so I'd really like to not have to call it:( | 18:09 |
| jamesmcarthur | ditto | 18:09 |
| spotz | VW: you want to text or should I?:) | 18:09 |
| spotz | I think I still have mrhillsman's number from summit somewhere | 18:09 |
| VW | let me see if I do | 18:10 |
| VW | yeah - it didn't survive the phone switch over :( | 18:10 |
| spotz | ok let me loo | 18:10 |
| spotz | text sent | 18:12 |
| spotz | Ok no mrhillman, so no quorum | 18:13 |
| spotz | Do we still want to meet? | 18:13 |
| spotz | officially that is | 18:13 |
| jamesmcarthur | There is quite a bit to discuss, but most of those things require quorum | 18:14 |
| spotz | :( | 18:14 |
| jamesmcarthur | I'll go ahead and jump to one thing... we should probably start putting together a PTG Agenda for the UC. | 18:15 |
| spotz | #startmeeting uc | 18:16 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 30 18:16:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:16 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:16 |
| jamesmcarthur | I was also really hoping to promote the UC elections, but wanted to get feedback and a vote on the language/requirements that I put together. | 18:16 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 18:16 |
| spotz | just so we're logging | 18:16 |
| spotz | #topic roll call | 18:16 |
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| jamesmcarthur | o/ | 18:16 |
| spotz | #chair apotz vw | 18:16 |
| openstack | Warning: Nick not in channel: apotz | 18:16 |
| openstack | Current chairs: apotz spotz vw | 18:17 |
| spotz | #chair spotz vw | 18:17 |
| openstack | Current chairs: apotz spotz vw | 18:17 |
| spotz | cause I can't spell my own name | 18:17 |
| VW | o/ | 18:17 |
| josephrsandoval | o/ | 18:17 |
| spotz | #topic PTG | 18:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: uc)" | 18:17 | |
| spotz | Cause that's as good a place to start our semi-official meeting | 18:17 |
| jamesmcarthur | We need to set a UC agenda for PTG | 18:18 |
| aprice | +1 | 18:18 |
| aprice | I would like to have some time set aside to review the user survey in depth and discuss potential changes in person :) that's one thing I would like to champion for the agenda | 18:18 |
| spotz | Yeah and I'm not sure we should wait for the OPS meetup schedule to be formalized, at the same time we should avoid those days unless combined | 18:18 |
| jamesmcarthur | Yeah - probably best to just pick a different day. | 18:19 |
| spotz | aka a meeting specifically weith the ops folks | 18:19 |
| spotz | I'd say we could do something on Wednesday/Thursday safetly enough or half day each. I know I'm leaving midday on Friday | 18:19 |
| spotz | hence safetly | 18:20 |
| spotz | and yeah that's not correct spelling:) | 18:20 |
| jamesmcarthur | I'd suggest picking a day that has the least conflicts for y'all. | 18:20 |
| spotz | Yeah which is why I'm also thinking half day Wed and half day thurs if needed. I need to go to some of the OSA stuff and maybe tripleo | 18:21 |
| VW | Wed - Fri are good for me | 18:21 |
| VW | with the Ops stuff being Monday/Tuesday | 18:21 |
| spotz | So let's see what mrhillman has and if Leong and Severio are attending and go from there | 18:22 |
| jamesmcarthur | I would suggest trying to put a UC specific agenda item on the actual Ops Meetup schedule | 18:22 |
| jamesmcarthur | And then we could meet Wednesday? | 18:22 |
| spotz | Ok, and I'm thinking maybe later Tuesday as a feedback session that could lead into Wednesday? | 18:23 |
| aprice | we should communicate the goal of having the in person meeting at the PTG during the election so the new UC members can plan to attend | 18:23 |
| jamesmcarthur | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SteinPTG-UCAgenda | 18:23 |
| spotz | Sweet thanks jamesmcarthur | 18:23 |
| spotz | Ok I've put the 3 things we just talked there | 18:24 |
| spotz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SteinPTG-UCAgenda | 18:24 |
| spotz | and to get that official | 18:24 |
| jamesmcarthur | aprice: spotz: The communication re: meeting at the PTG needs to be done before the actual PTG | 18:25 |
| jamesmcarthur | spotz: or VW: do you want to promote that on the UC ML along with teh elections? | 18:25 |
| spotz | jamesmcarthur aprice - or as part of the election even, just saying we're meeting and if you are leected please plan on attending | 18:25 |
| spotz | so what you said with less words! | 18:26 |
| VW | yes - I can promote the etherpad on the UC list | 18:26 |
| VW | sorry - getting blown up by three different chats at once | 18:26 |
| spotz | VW: But also encouraging the newly elected members to join us at PTG | 18:26 |
| VW | down to two now :) | 18:26 |
| VW | yep yep | 18:27 |
| VW | we won't know those for a couple of weeks, though | 18:27 |
| spotz | but yeah on ML we need to promote that ether user/ops lists I think | 18:27 |
| spotz | No but it'd be good for folks to keep it in the back of their mind | 18:27 |
| jamesmcarthur | right, i think letting people that are running know that it's happening is good | 18:29 |
| jamesmcarthur | ideally they'd be there anyway as Operators | 18:29 |
| spotz | Well it could be the nudge to their boss to get to go | 18:30 |
| jamesmcarthur | Indeed | 18:30 |
| jamesmcarthur | Should we change topic to AUC Updates? | 18:30 |
| VW | go for it | 18:31 |
| spotz | #topic AUC updates | 18:31 |
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| jamesmcarthur | So a couple of things: | 18:31 |
| spotz | I believe this paseed the vote, but hasn't been announced, posted yet? | 18:31 |
| jamesmcarthur | 1) We need to publicize the vote and specify the new AUC qualifications | 18:32 |
| jamesmcarthur | (right spotz:) :) | 18:32 |
| spotz | See I do pay attention!:) | 18:32 |
| jamesmcarthur | I think it's a good opportunity to publicize what the hell an AUC even is and the fact htat they get a $300 summit ticket. | 18:33 |
| VW | #indeed | 18:33 |
| jamesmcarthur | Most people don't realize they've qualified or why they have. So explaining ALL of the things that qualify as an AUC, not just the new ones would be helpful. | 18:33 |
| spotz | jamesmcarthur: how are we on the display port? | 18:33 |
| aprice | +1 | 18:34 |
| jamesmcarthur | We can promote that from OpenStack handles to add some oomf behind it (aprice: ?) | 18:34 |
| aprice | yep | 18:34 |
| jamesmcarthur | The display port? | 18:34 |
| jamesmcarthur | Oh | 18:34 |
| spotz | AUC badge on profiles | 18:34 |
| jamesmcarthur | For showing the names on the site | 18:34 |
| spotz | :) | 18:34 |
| jamesmcarthur | It's on the list ;) | 18:34 |
| aprice | i actually think it would make a good Superuser post or OpenStack blog post if someone from the UC wants to write something brief :) | 18:34 |
| jamesmcarthur | I'll likely have it up along with the ATC list, ahead of Berlin. | 18:34 |
| aprice | because it would be great to link to that during user calls / getting ops folks engaged | 18:35 |
| jamesmcarthur | +1 | 18:35 |
| spotz | #action UC put together a SU article for AUC | 18:35 |
| jamesmcarthur | should we consider that action as part of the promotion? | 18:36 |
| spotz | I just made Nicole suffere through my COA article | 18:36 |
| jamesmcarthur | and announcement of AUC changes | 18:36 |
| jamesmcarthur | ha! | 18:36 |
| spotz | jamesmcarthur: I would think so, | 18:36 |
| jamesmcarthur | ok cool | 18:36 |
| jamesmcarthur | 2) I'm working on gathering those new AUC qualfiers, but might need some help from y'all. I will reach out. | 18:36 |
| spotz | Maybe the artcile linked in the email for folks needing more info, etc | 18:37 |
| jamesmcarthur | I have to have them done before ballots go out... so it's very high priority from my side. | 18:37 |
| jamesmcarthur | spotz: yes +1 | 18:37 |
| spotz | jamesmcarthur: Ok if you need me aprice and Erin both have my cell, feel free to grab from one of them | 18:37 |
| jamesmcarthur | thank you :) | 18:37 |
| spotz | Ok anyhing else on AUC? | 18:38 |
| VW | spotz: feel free to assign me work offline | 18:38 |
| spotz | VW: okie | 18:38 |
| jamesmcarthur | I'm also happy to help with email crafting, but I don't want to step on toes. Let me know where I'm needed. | 18:39 |
| jamesmcarthur | I think that's it for AUC stuff | 18:39 |
| spotz | jamesmcarthur: Need you on the lists and related stuffage! | 18:39 |
| jamesmcarthur | word | 18:39 |
| spotz | #topic election | 18:39 |
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| spotz | We can't do much here but just doublechecked the dates and nominations open on 8/6 and close on 8/17 | 18:39 |
| spotz | But I think later this week maybe a hey all, noms open next week and this is why you should run? | 18:40 |
| jamesmcarthur | I put together that list of UC responsibilities as a rough list. Please don't hold me to any of that, but I do think we should send out something close to it along with comms. | 18:40 |
| jamesmcarthur | And yes - we need to promote heavily to all lists :) | 18:40 |
| VW | yes spotz - we should send that out. It's probably better from someone who's not up for election this time | 18:42 |
| spotz | Yeah it'd be nice to get as nice a response in niminations as we did for officials:) | 18:42 |
| jamesmcarthur | ++ | 18:42 |
| spotz | That's VW's hint for me I think:) | 18:42 |
| VW | really anyone on the UC !me | 18:43 |
| VW | :) | 18:43 |
| spotz | Ok we'll poke about and see but we really should have that out by thurs/fri | 18:43 |
| spotz | #action UC send out a 'hey you should run and why' email in front of nominations opening next week | 18:44 |
| jamesmcarthur | I can send that out to if that helps? | 18:44 |
| spotz | jamesmcarthur: I thought you just said you didn't want to?:) | 18:44 |
| melsakhawy | will there be a meeting sometime after the nominations close ? | 18:44 |
| jamesmcarthur | Well... I just said I didn't want to step on anyone's toes ;) But you guys have a SuperUser article to write. | 18:45 |
| spotz | melsakhawy: We meet every week unless soemthing happens | 18:45 |
| spotz | So yes | 18:45 |
| melsakhawy | sounds good , thanks | 18:46 |
| jamesmcarthur | melsakhawy: are you thinking of running for the UC? | 18:47 |
| spotz | We do alternate time slots which can be a bit confusing. Keep an eye on the UC list for meeting reminders | 18:47 |
| melsakhawy | I volunteered for the elections officership :) | 18:47 |
| jamesmcarthur | spotz: VW: as I said, just let me know how I can help on the email front. If not me, someone from Foundation can assist. | 18:48 |
| melsakhawy | new to it though , so trying to find out how the process work | 18:48 |
| jamesmcarthur | melsakhawy: Ah, I missed that! Thank you!! | 18:48 |
| spotz | melsakhawy: Ed who's also an official was an official with me 2 elections ago so he'll be able to help you out. Hopefully nothing exciting will occur:) | 18:49 |
| jamesmcarthur | Perhaps we need an election official bootcamp | 18:49 |
| spotz | With BBQ?:) | 18:49 |
| melsakhawy | haha | 18:49 |
| melsakhawy | that'd be nice , I guess I can ping Ed to get more info | 18:50 |
| spotz | It should as simple as checking Jimjmy's list and updating the wiki page. Then setting up the vote which Ed has done which will make it a little easier | 18:50 |
| spotz | Ok 10 minutes left, gonna swap out to open discussion | 18:50 |
| spotz | #topic open discussion | 18:51 |
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| spotz | We can still go on about elecetion if needed but wanted to give folks a chance to bring anything new up | 18:51 |
| melsakhawy | I think I am good, thanks | 18:51 |
| spotz | Anyone have a topic they want to bring up? | 18:53 |
| jamesmcarthur | Oh one other thing... | 18:54 |
| spotz | Ok I'm going to give everyone.... Oh sure | 18:54 |
| jamesmcarthur | My proposal on the ML re: the two meetings per month (including a joint meeting with the TC) was simply that. | 18:54 |
| VW | I kind of dig it | 18:55 |
| VW | but get all the points made | 18:55 |
| jamesmcarthur | We've had some trouble making quorum, so I wanted to see if we could help ease teh time commitment for everyone while increasing productivity | 18:55 |
| jamesmcarthur | Just an idea, basically. | 18:55 |
| jamesmcarthur | But note that I haven't run any of it by the TC. | 18:55 |
| spotz | I like it too, and especially the joint meeting and maybe getting rid of meeting time confusion | 18:55 |
| jamesmcarthur | SO.... if it's something y'all are interested in, it would be good to have a UC member reach out to Doug or Thierry | 18:56 |
| spotz | Except for the last 2 weeks I'm usually about but that was 2 weeks with no quorum cause I was out and about:( | 18:56 |
| jamesmcarthur | I realize nothing can happen w/o quorum, so just food for thought. | 18:56 |
| jamesmcarthur | I've missed a few myself due to the time confusion. | 18:56 |
| VW | then I'll try to update the agenda for next week | 18:57 |
| jamesmcarthur | That's all from me :) | 18:57 |
| VW | to discuss this specifically | 18:57 |
| VW | at 14:00 UTC :) | 18:57 |
| spotz | Cool, thanks VW | 18:57 |
| jamesmcarthur | Thanks y'all! | 18:57 |
| spotz | Anything else? | 18:57 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 18:57 |
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| spotz | too slow:) | 18:58 |
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| VW | thanks for driving spotz | 18:58 |
| spotz | vw No prob:) Little chaotic but it worked! | 18:59 |
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