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| yoctozepto | \o/ | 15:08 |
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| ricolin | o/ | 15:44 |
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| TheJulia | yoctozepto: does it really supply any value? | 17:47 |
| yoctozepto | TheJulia: well, it was introduced at the end of 2020 and I would be that for Ironic specifically ;-) | 17:48 |
| yoctozepto | if Ironic is not interested, then we should perhaps clean it up and not claim that no projects support standalone | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | I guess that is what is confusing because there are several projects support "standalone" configurations, but makes me wonder if there is any actual value to the TC or to the community for the tags in the first place | 17:50 |
| yoctozepto | that's a very good point | 17:51 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: would it make sense to discuss that during the "public" slot? | 17:51 |
| yoctozepto | I mean that from the above ;-) | 17:51 |
| TheJulia | I'm not trying to be a jerk with that, I'm likely being a jerk though because I'm exhausted from talking to people, but it is kind of like "what, huh?!?" | 17:51 |
| TheJulia | maybe the better question is "what are we trying to achieve?" | 17:51 |
| TheJulia | Which sounds super nebulous, but yeah | 17:52 |
| yoctozepto | well, to be honest, I am also not a big fan of the tags | 17:53 |
| gmann | this is recently add tag, may be too soon to remove it but feel free to add it on etherpad for PTG discussion | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | I'm going to try to join the TC session because I've heard enough developers and operators grumble about the project's release cycle that I want to make sure the TC understands the situation people are in. | 17:53 |
| yoctozepto | but for this particular one we better either add something or drop it | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | agree completely | 17:54 |
| gmann | +1, we cleaned many tags in last cycle. this is good things to continue | 17:54 |
| yoctozepto | it's already 5 months in with no projects tagged | 17:54 |
| TheJulia | I guess it still goes back to "who is the tag for?" | 17:54 |
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| yoctozepto | we should be adding tags with projects already in tagging process | 17:54 |
| yoctozepto | ;-) | 17:54 |
| TheJulia | well, maybe keep in mind... the projects may have no context of the tag even existing | 17:54 |
| TheJulia | The TC is a whole separate world of context | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | and "on the ground" people are slammed | 17:55 |
| yoctozepto | true that | 17:55 |
| yoctozepto | lol | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | like, I think someone tagged me when the tag was in review, but I had no idea it had merged | 17:55 |
| TheJulia | at least... conciously | 17:56 |
| yoctozepto | fair | 17:56 |
| TheJulia | so the situation might be the same elsehwere | 17:56 |
| TheJulia | This would all be so much easier if it was like at the Croke Park Inn and someone went up to the bar and made an annoucement | 17:56 |
| fungi | but only before we finished all their whisky | 17:57 |
| TheJulia | I.... think there was still whisky... | 17:58 |
| TheJulia | of course, I think few of us would drink it | 17:58 |
| fungi | supposedly they told our organizers that we drank in one week what they usually stock for like 6-12 months | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | Oh yes, I remember those discussions | 17:59 |
| fungi | (not that they minded, they were more like impressed by it i think) | 17:59 |
| TheJulia | good times | 18:00 |
| fungi | the commit which introduced assert:supprts-standalone referred to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/013821.html | 18:01 |
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| gmann | we might need to advertise it more even all the tags and then cleanup if we find any not-worth tag | 18:02 |
| gmann | anyways adding it in etherpad. | 18:02 |
| TheJulia | Does the TC have the intent to popularize the resulting tag's existance outwards once one or more projects are tagged? | 18:03 |
| TheJulia | and by popularize, I mean outward | 18:03 |
| yoctozepto | I don't see where gmann added it but I added mine at the very bottom | 18:05 |
| yoctozepto | please move as it fits | 18:05 |
| gmann | I think openstack-map is one good place to advertise it but let's find more ways in discussions | 18:05 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, let's discuss | 18:05 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: ah i might have added after you moving your | 18:06 |
| yoctozepto | ok, please, chair, override vice-chair :-) | 18:06 |
| TheJulia | anything that requires anyone to go find something may not be ideal advertising | 18:06 |
| yoctozepto | agreed | 18:06 |
| TheJulia | For me at least, a repeated theme that keeps coming up is advertising or broadcasting outward | 18:07 |
| zaneb | I imagine Swift ought to have the standalone tag also /cc timburke_ | 18:07 |
| TheJulia | And cinder | 18:07 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 18:07 |
| yoctozepto | on both | 18:07 |
| timburke_ | yes please :-) | 18:07 |
| gmann | timburke_: its time to add swift now :) https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/tags/assert_supports-standalone.html | 18:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/governance master: Add assert:supports-standalone tag for Swift https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/787430 | 18:14 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, you add these 3 projects and the tag is happy :-) | 18:14 |
| TheJulia | Then just broadcast it out | 18:14 |
| yoctozepto | vote+1 | 18:14 |
| gmann | timburke_: thanks | 18:14 |
| yoctozepto | need to update the discussion already :D | 18:15 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: done, added swift proposal patch link | 18:16 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 18:17 |
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