| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift master: Skip cross-account-copy functest if only one account https://review.openstack.org/511655 | 00:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift master: functests: don't crash if no second account https://review.openstack.org/511657 | 00:22 |
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| kota_ | good morning | 01:19 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: good morning | 01:36 |
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| kota_ | m_kazuhiro: hi | 01:59 |
| kota_ | Did you get something progressed on symlink? | 02:00 |
| kota_ | m_kazuhiro: ^^ | 02:00 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: I and tdasilva talked about recommend content-type of symlink. | 02:01 |
| kota_ | m_kazuhiro: ok, how's going on it? | 02:01 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: Originally, this topic came from symlink middleware's comment of "recommended content-type". And this comment was written by tdasilva. So I asked him the reason why he write about recommended content-type. | 02:03 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: He said that he didn't remember reason but he thought it was way to distinguish objects. | 02:05 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: And the talk about recommended content-type finished at the timing because of his schedule. | 02:07 |
| kota_ | m_kazuhiro: so that, it's still under going? | 02:08 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: He also said that he will update symlink patch. So I'm waiting patch update and answer for the recommended content-type. | 02:08 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: Yes. under going. | 02:08 |
| kota_ | m_kazuhiro: what's point tdasilva is now working? | 02:10 |
| kota_ | i guess several topics in the symlink improvements in your etherpad... | 02:10 |
| kota_ | several topics exist | 02:10 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: I think his main point is not on etherpad now. He will work for your comments on symlink patch. | 02:12 |
| kota_ | m_kazuhiro: to make response comments? or new patch set? I'm not sure I could continue to work on my follow up for now... | 02:16 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: In my understanding, new patch set. What does "follow up" mean? Your comment? Your following patch? | 02:19 |
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| kota_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509149/ m_kazuhiro | 02:20 |
| patchbot | patch 509149 - swift - Follow up for symlink implementaion | 02:20 |
| kota_ | oh, it's already get merge conflict though. | 02:20 |
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| m_kazuhiro | kota_: I see. Umm, may I update your following patch? | 02:23 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: (to follow main symlnk patch's update) | 02:24 |
| kota_ | m_kazuhiro: i think i can manage my patch for current newest symlink patch set. but not sure on tdasilva work. | 02:25 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: You say that you can manage your patch for symlink's patch set 60(= current patch set), but you are not sure on symlink's patch set 61 (= next patch set). Correct? | 02:29 |
| kota_ | ? | 02:37 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: I'm sorry. I don't understand what you want to say because of my poor english skill. | 02:38 |
| m_kazuhiro | kota_: What is your concering point? | 02:39 |
| kota_ | m_kazuhiro: just I was thinking of "what/when i can work" on symlink. Hence I'd like to catch up the diff from current patch. However, I couldn't get about the concrete diff so that I'm not sue what/when I can do. | 02:46 |
| kota_ | maybe except waiting tdasilva do something? | 02:47 |
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| m_kazuhiro | kota_: OK. I see. | 03:03 |
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| hugokuo | Is there known bug of empty container suffix in the partition? | 06:41 |
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| acoles | good morning | 08:45 |
| acoles | I just discovered the 'Included In' drop down on gerrit review pages - top right corner - that is very useful | 08:49 |
| acoles | someone is going to tell me it has been there for years! | 08:49 |
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| acoles | kota_: m_kazuhiro I just left a comment re symlink content-type auto-insertion on etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlink_remaining_discussion_points | 09:12 |
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| kota_ | thx acoles! | 09:18 |
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| m_kazuhiro | acoles: Are you here? | 09:27 |
| acoles | m_kazuhiro: hello | 09:28 |
| m_kazuhiro | acoles: Hello. I want to talk about your comments on symlink etherpad page. Do you have time for it? | 09:28 |
| acoles | m_kazuhiro: yes | 09:29 |
| m_kazuhiro | acoles: Thank you. | 09:29 |
| m_kazuhiro | acoles: First, your concerning point of auto insertion is about POST. But I think this topic is only on PUT requests. | 09:31 |
| m_kazuhiro | acoles: So the topic is "if there are recommended content-type, should we insert the content-type automatically when clients PUT symlink without content-type?". But in my current thought, recommended content-type is not needed on symlinks. | 09:34 |
| acoles | m_kazuhiro: my thought is that if a POST can undo any auto-insertion of a specific content-type during PUT, then is there any value in the auto-insertion in the first place? | 09:34 |
| acoles | m_kazuhiro: oh, then maybe I misunderstood the etherpad. I was addressing the question 'Should symlink middleware insert this content-type automatically?' | 09:34 |
| acoles | hmmm, do you mean 'we do not need to recommend any value because we will automatically set it' or ' we do not need to care about the value, just leave it to be whatever the client or default is'? | 09:36 |
| m_kazuhiro | acoles: My thought is second one. | 09:37 |
| acoles | m_kazuhiro: ok. then I do not disagree with you. I do not have a strong opinion about whether there should be a particular content-type, but I do think it is hard to reliably apply any value automatically. So for pragmatic reasons I think it may be better to leave whatever the client sends. | 09:39 |
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| m_kazuhiro | acoles: OK. The recommend content-type comment is added by tdasilva. And I asked him about that. His answer was that he doesn't remember but it may be for distinguishing symlinks. | 09:41 |
| acoles | m_kazuhiro: OIC. I just added some more comment on the etherpad - let's see if tdasilva has other thoughts. Seems to me that if we have the symlink target appended to etag then that is sufficient to distinguish a symlink. | 09:42 |
| m_kazuhiro | acoles: I think so. Therefore I think our conclusion will be that recommended content-type comment is removed from symlink patch. | 09:46 |
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| acoles | m_kazuhiro: ok. have a good weekend! | 10:20 |
| m_kazuhiro | acoles: Thank you! | 10:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: tweak when root is updated with shard range stats https://review.openstack.org/511802 | 10:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: save sharding metadata as string https://review.openstack.org/511808 | 11:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: delete unused get_metadata_item method https://review.openstack.org/511809 | 11:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: tweak when root is updated with shard range stats https://review.openstack.org/511802 | 11:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: save sharding metadata as string https://review.openstack.org/511808 | 11:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: delete unused get_metadata_item method https://review.openstack.org/511809 | 11:22 |
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| tdasilva | good morning | 11:50 |
| tdasilva | kota_: just fyi, i'm working on a new patchset for symlinks and close to submitting it | 11:51 |
| tdasilva | acoles: thanks for your comments on the etherpad, i think they are very valid | 11:51 |
| acoles | tdasilva: NP. good morning! | 11:52 |
| tdasilva | acoles: I was thinking that leaving just the current recommendation in the docs is sufficient (and harmless) then | 11:52 |
| acoles | tdasilva: I don't have a strong opinion but if something is recommended I tend to think that to do otherwise is then a mistake | 11:52 |
| acoles | ...unless of course the recommendation comes from a retailer :) | 11:53 |
| tdasilva | heh | 11:54 |
| tdasilva | so i think it is good advice...is advice less than a recommendation? ;) | 11:55 |
| acoles | tdasilva: it sorts less alphabetically :) | 11:55 |
| tdasilva | lol | 11:55 |
| acoles | so is the advice 'content-type can be anything, but if you're not sure use application/symlink' ? | 11:57 |
| acoles | or is it 'there's a good reason to use application/symlink unless you have a reason not to' ? | 11:58 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: IMO first one | 12:26 |
| acoles | tdasilva: in which case perhaps 'suggested' rather than 'recommended' ... but I don't feel strongly about it | 12:27 |
| tdasilva | acoles: ack, thanks | 12:27 |
| * tdasilva goes back to re-read what's in the docs | 12:27 | |
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| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: Are you here? | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: use same pending file regardless of broker db path https://review.openstack.org/511852 | 13:42 |
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| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: hi | 14:01 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: Hi! | 14:02 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: one sec | 14:02 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: ok | 14:02 |
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| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: back | 14:04 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: what's up? it's really late for you | 14:05 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: I want to talk about some topics. | 14:05 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: about symlink. | 14:05 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: There are 3 topics. First topics is "how about your patch update?" | 14:06 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: yes, working on it :) hoping to send the patchset today | 14:08 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: i'm working through kota_ comments | 14:08 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: nice :) Will you include update for recommended content-type? I read your talk with acoles. | 14:11 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: (recommended content-type is my second topic.) | 14:12 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: yes, honestly, it will be just a little change in wording on the doc | 14:12 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: as part of this patchset I took a longer look at the current docs and tried to change things a bit, was just looking for clarifying terms a bit and hopefully make it clearer | 14:12 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: Great. Clear docs are very helpful. | 14:15 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: I think some of kota_'s comments are about container-sync with symlink. So I will make update for the comments after your update. | 14:16 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: ok, will probably need your help with container-sync | 14:17 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: Then I start 3rd topic... It is today's main topic. I want to share/discuss schedule for progressing symlink review cycle. | 14:19 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: I want to make sure to merge symlink in Queens release. | 14:20 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: So I want to make and share schedule for symlink merge. | 14:21 |
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| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: In my understanding, deadline for queens release is end of January. | 14:25 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: I'd love to see symlinks merge in Queens. In fact, I was just looking at the first patchet yesterday and that was proposed about 2 years ago! But...I've learned that's not something I can control, it's really a community effort to review and commit to maintain the code. All I can do is to try to be as reponsive as possible to reviews | 14:25 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: I believe that we can increase probability of Queens merge , even if we cannot make 100 % proabability. | 14:31 |
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| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: In my thought, if we have schedule, the probability will increase. | 14:33 |
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| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: sounds good, please do share | 14:35 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: Thanks. I will talk schedule from end. Because I think it will be more easy to explain. | 14:37 |
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| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: i'm assuming you have dates? do you have something like a table that I can visualize? | 14:38 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: Yes. I have schedule of dates. Umm.. I don't have a table now... Can I write my schedule image on etherpad page? | 14:40 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: yeah, perfect | 14:41 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: OK please watch tail of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlink_remaining_discussion_points | 14:41 |
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| timburke | good morning | 14:48 |
| m_kazuhiro | timburke: good morning | 14:48 |
| acoles | timburke: o/ | 14:48 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: I finished to write my current schedule image. | 14:49 |
| timburke | m_kazuhiro: still awake? go to bed! :P | 14:49 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: ack | 14:50 |
| m_kazuhiro | timburke: OK. I'll go to bed after talk with tdasilva! | 14:51 |
| timburke | :-) | 14:51 |
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| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: I want to do this schedule on etherpad page. And I intend to use my time for this schedule. | 14:54 |
| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: ok, I think you have a good goal in mind. | 14:55 |
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| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: Thank you. And I want to be main patch updater for symlink after your next patch update for my schedule... Is it OK? | 14:59 |
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| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: absolutely...sorry I jumped the gun on this patchset...how about this, I'll send a new patchset today in whatever form I can get and then I'll mark whatever comments I was not able to address | 15:01 |
| tdasilva | and you can take it from there and become maintainer | 15:01 |
| tdasilva | sounds good? | 15:01 |
| tdasilva | I might add some more topics to the etherpad on what is remaining and cross-off whatever is done | 15:02 |
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| m_kazuhiro | OK. That sounds good. | 15:03 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: Thank you very much and I'm sorry for being selfish. | 15:13 |
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| tdasilva | m_kazuhiro: welcome, and you are not being selfish at all. no worries | 15:19 |
| tdasilva | you are doing the right thing | 15:19 |
| acoles | m_kazuhiro: it is *late* ! | 15:20 |
| tdasilva | yes, go to sleep and have a nice weekend | 15:20 |
| m_kazuhiro | tdasilva: acoles: Thank you! Have a nice weekend. | 15:21 |
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| acoles | timburke: I had similar thought about only ever init'ing the broker with the hash.db path. I'd certainly be ok with that being the norm. we might want to support the other (hash_shard.db) just in case someone wants to grab a path and open a broker, perhaps by always normalising the path that is passed to __init__? | 15:57 |
| acoles | timburke: anything to make it easier to grok all the slight of hand with db names and existence checks :) | 15:58 |
| timburke | which is more or less what that last patch does, right? certainly seems like | 15:58 |
| timburke | i agree that it feels a little weird that we're faking out the super().__init__() -- but it might actually be not-so-unreasonable? | 15:59 |
| acoles | hmmm, maybe. it felt dirty when I did it :P | 15:59 |
| acoles | but maybe it's not so bad | 16:00 |
| acoles | I guess I fear the super __init__ changing in some way that breaks the trickery | 16:00 |
| timburke | yeah, it's a fair concern... | 16:01 |
| acoles | timburke: mattoliverau I hesitate to claim it - but now we replicate deleted items and flush pending files, I seem to have a shrinking probe test (of sorts) passing | 16:07 |
| acoles | what with it being 5pm on a Friday maybe I should quit while I'm ahead | 16:07 |
| acoles | Friday 13th even ! | 16:08 |
| timburke | yay! meanwhile, i just realized that i should be running the existing probe tests more -- acoles, have you noticed failures around https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/feature/deep/test/probe/test_sharder.py#L303-L307 | 16:08 |
| timburke | good point. have a good weekend acoles! | 16:08 |
| acoles | timburke: hmm, no I haven't run that async_pending test for a while | 16:09 |
| timburke | :-( but when i back it out so *everyone* looks for 60, i get at least one looking for 80... time for me to dig deeper | 16:10 |
| acoles | fun fun fun | 16:10 |
| acoles | timburke: I'll push what I have for shrinking - I added a few more helper methods in the probe test including a direct get to all container nodes | 16:11 |
| timburke | sounds good. i'll aim to get a merge from master up today, just as soon as i've got probe tests in a good state | 16:11 |
| acoles | thanks! | 16:12 |
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| timburke | oh, no! *different* assertion now. i think actually, 3/5 across the board may be right... | 16:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alistair Coles proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: WIP Alternative shrinking https://review.openstack.org/510978 | 16:33 |
| acoles | timburke: mattoliverau ^^ I am sure there is plenty to iron out in that still but progress I think. The probe test's shrunken shard is not deleted - but it is in the sharded state and has a delete timestamp | 16:35 |
| acoles | I'm leaving it there for this week | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift feature/deep: tweak when root is updated with shard range stats https://review.openstack.org/511802 | 16:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift feature/deep: save sharding metadata as string https://review.openstack.org/511808 | 16:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift feature/deep: delete unused get_metadata_item method https://review.openstack.org/511809 | 16:50 |
| notmyname | good morning | 16:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Fix up async pending probe test https://review.openstack.org/511930 | 17:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift feature/deep: use same pending file regardless of broker db path https://review.openstack.org/511852 | 18:04 |
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| zaitcev | Okay, I'm alive. Don't know how or why, but I saw that Clay reviewed PUT+POST. BTW, here's the actual route, with overnight stops marked black: http://www.zaitcev.us/things/n41475_2017_ferry.jpg | 18:19 |
| zaitcev | Er, I meant to say that I saw that review. | 18:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift feature/deep: Merge branch 'master' into feature/deep https://review.openstack.org/511941 | 18:22 |
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| timburke | zaitcev: that's a good sized trip! Austin to just past Rochester? hope you had a good time :-) | 18:36 |
| zaitcev | timburke: I went the other direction, ferried Carlson home from repairs at the original builder in upstate NY. | 18:37 |
| timburke | ah, gotcha | 18:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Send correct SLO ETag for container updates https://review.openstack.org/337960 | 18:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Autovivify X-Versions-Location container https://review.openstack.org/265015 | 18:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Increase name-length limits for internal accounts https://review.openstack.org/465776 | 19:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Respond 400 Bad Request when Accept headers fail to parse https://review.openstack.org/502845 | 19:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Send correct SLO ETag for container updates https://review.openstack.org/337960 | 19:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Increase name-length limits for internal accounts https://review.openstack.org/465776 | 19:46 |
| * timburke grumbles about line-length limits... | 19:47 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift master: Symlink implementation. https://review.openstack.org/232162 | 20:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift feature/deep: Fix up async pending probe test https://review.openstack.org/511930 | 21:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift feature/deep: Merge branch 'master' into feature/deep https://review.openstack.org/511941 | 21:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift master: Add checksum to object extended attributes https://review.openstack.org/336323 | 21:53 |
| timburke | torgomatic: it lives! | 22:00 |
| torgomatic | timburke: seriously | 22:00 |
| torgomatic | I don't remember that patch being so large; last time I looked, it was like 100 lines :) | 22:01 |
| timburke | looks like an awful lot of it is just dropping skip_if_no_xattrs in a bunch of tests | 22:03 |
| torgomatic | this is true; it looks a lot bigger when there's 8 months' worth of test rearrangement on master. The conflict hunks are ENORMOUS :) | 22:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Remove swift-temp-url script https://review.openstack.org/511981 | 23:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift master: Add checksum to object extended attributes https://review.openstack.org/336323 | 23:55 |
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