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| torgomatic | timburke: to be fair, 0 parity frags is like storing a single replica, but with even worse durability | 00:16 |
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| timburke | torgomatic: yup. not saying it's a good idea, but it *was* something that came up once we got duplicated frags | 00:17 |
| timburke | (in fact, upon investigation, i determined it was kinda a *terrible* idea as i recall) | 00:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clay Gerrard proposed openstack/swift master: Add multiple worker processes strategy to reconstructor https://review.openstack.org/478416 | 00:34 |
| clayg | ^ i'm just throwing up my progress today, but I think it's getting close - i need to go over it again | 00:35 |
| clayg | i found lp bug #1626290 in a weird state that made it hard to find in search :\ | 00:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1626290 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "[object-reconstructor] section is not documented" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626290 | 00:35 |
| clayg | timburke: you mis-understood the use-case | 00:36 |
| timburke | almost certainly | 00:36 |
| clayg | one thing you hit sometimes with uploads to swift of large objects is speed of a single spindle | 00:37 |
| clayg | if you do a 7+0x3 in a single region, and compare it to a 3-replica single region - durability should be similar-ish - but your aggregate iops/disk-write-bw available to single client PUT stream should be higher | 00:38 |
| clayg | ... that's all | 00:38 |
| clayg | i may still be a terrible idea - and maybe even for durability reasons - but I remember thinking when you added to the ec duplication comparison you didn't seem to have some context of a previous out-of-band discussion on the thought experiment | 00:39 |
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| clayg | or maybe you were reading the shorthand of a duplicated policy 7+0x3 like a math equation (i.e. 7 + (0 * 3) instead of the intended (k + m) * duplication factor which is always the way to read swift ec duplication schemas since there is no such thing as just duplicating the parity frags) | 00:41 |
| clayg | i don't recall | 00:41 |
| clayg | g'night! | 00:41 |
| mattoliverau | morning | 00:48 |
| timburke | kota_: on https://github.com/openstack/liberasurecode/commit/74eaa37 -- should we have added something to the error codes at https://github.com/openstack/liberasurecode/blob/1.5.0/include/erasurecode/erasurecode.h#L390-L401 ? like EBADFRAGSET or something? | 00:48 |
| mattoliverau | and g'night clayg | 00:48 |
| timburke | good morning mattoliverau! | 00:49 |
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| RayLei | I encountered a swauth bug, the certification takes two times to pass https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/23159763/28195049-95232d8a-687a-11e7-9e33-ac6a645c59a9.png | 01:58 |
| kota_ | good morning | 01:59 |
| kota_ | timburke: ack | 01:59 |
| RayLei | good morning | 01:59 |
| kota_ | timburke: it seems good idea to add the error case, currently liberasurecode raise UNKNOWN error with syslog message like "Encountered error in backend decode function!" | 02:05 |
| kota_ | clayg, timburke: IIRC, current pyeclib doesn't support striping (i.e. m=0) | 02:07 |
| kota_ | but... i think, i had seen the striping driver in pyeclib... but not in use so need to maintain if you want to use. | 02:08 |
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| kota_ | clayg, timburke: https://github.com/openstack/pyeclib/blob/master/pyeclib/core.py#L178 | 02:10 |
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| RayLei | I guess clayg is asleep | 02:16 |
| clayg | clayg never sleeps - he only defrags | 02:17 |
| RayLei | may be you can help me look at the above certification | 02:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/swift master: Update URL home-page in documents according to document migration https://review.openstack.org/483755 | 02:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tuan Luong-Anh proposed openstack/swift master: Update URL home-page in documents according to document migration https://review.openstack.org/483755 | 03:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 03:53 |
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| RayLei | Why swift certification, the first failure, the second successful? | 04:04 |
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| frank_young | You mean, the first time swift authentication fail, but the second time success ?? | 04:27 |
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| cschwede_ | sorry for the delay folks - here is the updated bug triage list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list | 13:37 |
| cschwede_ | some lines include a Gerrit link; I combined two scripts to find unlinked patches. Thus bugs in state NEW with a gerrit patch are likely at least in progress | 13:38 |
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| cschwede_ | acoles, clayg, tdasilva, notmyname ^ | 13:38 |
| acoles | cschwede_: thanks, great work | 13:39 |
| cschwede_ | acoles: bummer, i messed up the launchpad urls. one second | 13:39 |
| acoles | cschwede_: hehe I hadn't noticed until you said | 13:39 |
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| cschwede_ | fixed | 13:42 |
| acoles | cschwede_: tdasilva: so what is the best way to update the etherpad - add your nick to start of line when you take on bugs to triage, strikethrough when closed, make it bold is in doubt and want consensus? | 13:43 |
| acoles | s/is/if/ | 13:43 |
| cschwede_ | acoles: sounds like a good plan to me | 13:44 |
| cschwede_ | acoles: maybe add the keyword triage to the bug as well? to ensure we can filter on that in the future within launchpad | 13:45 |
| cschwede_ | especially if the bug stays in state NEW | 13:45 |
| tdasilva | cschwede_: so ideally all bugs that are not in the initial state of 'undecided' should be 'triaged', no? | 13:47 |
| acoles | cschwede_: there is a status 'Triaged' | 13:47 |
| tdasilva | should we move bugs from New to Triaged? and what does triaged mean? confirmed?? | 13:48 |
| tdasilva | heh | 13:48 |
| tdasilva | too many status options | 13:49 |
| cschwede_ | acoles: hmm, after thinking about it, a bug should either be Confirmed, or Invalid, or not? | 13:49 |
| acoles | status 'New' is defined as 'not looked at' so ideally we'd like to have zero New (at least for some nano-second! ) | 13:49 |
| cschwede_ | there should be no old bugs in New after the triage? | 13:49 |
| cschwede_ | right | 13:49 |
| tdasilva | sounds good | 13:50 |
| cschwede_ | so ignore my triage comment above := | 13:50 |
| cschwede_ | :) | 13:50 |
| acoles | so we need 'Looked at but still don't know what to do with this' | 13:50 |
| tdasilva | acoles: don't know for what reason? missing info? | 13:51 |
| tdasilva | or can't confirm it's a bug or not? | 13:51 |
| acoles | tdasilva: need another opinion, so I guess it just stays New until we get consensus | 13:51 |
| acoles | but I liked cschwede_ idea that we somehow tag to differentiate New that we have looked at from newer News (!) | 13:52 |
| tdasilva | acoles: trying to write all that down in the etherpad... | 13:52 |
| acoles | cschwede_: can the scripts filter bugs with no activity, and since a date - that might make my thought moot i.e. it owuld be easy to find stuff that arrrived since we started this process? | 13:53 |
| cschwede_ | acoles: yes, already did that. the age is the amount of days without an update | 13:54 |
| cschwede_ | so the bugs triaged in the last couple days are not included | 13:54 |
| acoles | right | 13:54 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: I just hijacked your how to use tags section :) | 13:59 |
| tdasilva | lol, i kind of meant it to mean like what tags to use for what purpose :P | 13:59 |
| tdasilva | should we detail that? | 13:59 |
| acoles | yeah I suspected you did, just bump my stuff down :P | 14:00 |
| tdasilva | heheh | 14:00 |
| tdasilva | acoles: i was hoping you would come up with the tags ;) | 14:00 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: this is the editor I have always wanted ... I think changes and see them happen before my eyes :) | 14:03 |
| tdasilva | rofl | 14:03 |
| tdasilva | acoles, cschwede_: should we also add tags for components? | 14:03 |
| tdasilva | we have some like docs, translation, ec | 14:04 |
| tdasilva | wondering if we should things like, middleware, proxy, object-server, container-server, account-server??? | 14:04 |
| tdasilva | is that helpful at all? | 14:04 |
| acoles | the server-types I can imagine so - people may tag middlewares separately | 14:06 |
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| acoles | probably not owrth creating per-middleware tags up front, they can't all have bugs! | 14:07 |
| acoles | worth* | 14:07 |
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| cschwede_ | tdasilva: sounds like a good idea. we should also add the wishlist tag if it's not a bug but sth that would be useful | 14:10 |
| acoles | cschwede_: there is a status for wishlist IIRC | 14:10 |
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| tdasilva | Importance | 14:10 |
| * cschwede_ needs to look into launchpad and not only the api results | 14:11 | |
| tdasilva | heh | 14:11 |
| cschwede_ | tdasilva: right, let's use the importance for it! | 14:11 |
| acoles | tdasilva: sorry, IDNRC - Importance | 14:12 |
| tdasilva | what do you think of my break down of the status on the etherpad? does it make sense to say not to use Triaged and just use Confirmed? | 14:12 |
| cschwede_ | that said, there is "Undecided, needs more discussion" in the prio as well | 14:12 |
| RayLei | i meet a bug about swift v1 auth https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/23159763/28195049-95232d8a-687a-11e7-9e33-ac6a645c59a9.png | 14:12 |
| cschwede_ | tdasilva: sounds good to me | 14:12 |
| cschwede_ | RayLei: you should make sure that your auth token gets invalidated asap | 14:13 |
| RayLei | If you do not restart memcached, I use the old token to be able to access swift twice in succession | 14:14 |
| cschwede_ | RayLei: and delete that image asap | 14:14 |
| cschwede_ | RayLei: expiring the token does not fix this, but please do yourself a favor and remove that image and expire your token! | 14:14 |
| tdasilva | cschwede_, acoles: so I made a suggestion that a bug should be left Undecided only when it has not been triaged. As part of the triaging, we should always set the Importance | 14:16 |
| tdasilva | Importance can change as more people look at the bug | 14:16 |
| cschwede_ | +1 | 14:16 |
| RayLei | +1 | 14:17 |
| acoles | tdasilva: looks good | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift master: Add X-Copy-From-Account to api-ref https://review.openstack.org/483114 | 15:32 |
| notmyname | good morning | 15:32 |
| notmyname | cschwede_: thanks for the bug etherpad | 15:33 |
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| notmyname | FYI in case you see it, new setuptools release seems to be causing problems http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119694.html | 15:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 15:51 |
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| notmyname | there's a new cloud out there now. alibaba. their object storage looks like s3 https://www.alibabacloud.com/product/oss?spm=a3c0i.o31978en.675768.dnavproductsb1.9ebe31Rkh9B5 | 15:59 |
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| clayg | so I'm thinking I might go ahead and square away lp bug #1626290 today real quick (after I commute and work on this other thing I need to do) | 16:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1626290 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "[object-reconstructor] section is not documented" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1626290 | 16:13 |
| clayg | I guess I'll make it orthogonal to patch 478416 - but maybe if one of them merges we can rebase/fixup which ever is left still in review to catch up? | 16:14 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478416/ - swift - Add multiple worker processes strategy to reconstr... | 16:14 |
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| acoles | clayg: I had made a note to at least do that as a follow up but yeah if you get there then we'll rebase as necessary | 16:24 |
| timburke | good morning | 16:24 |
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| timburke | kota_: huh... i'd entirely missed the striping driver. looks like it doesn't touch libec at all? the more i play around with this, the more i want as much logic as possible in libec, with pyeclib being a minimal shim to get us python bindings for it | 16:27 |
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| timburke | i'd also *really* like to see us get rid of the C code in pyeclib. we've got ctypes; why can't we just use python? | 16:28 |
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| tdasilva | timburke: the more we push logic to ec, the easier it will be to port pyeclib to a golang binding | 16:35 |
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| timburke | tdasilva: bingo! | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift master: Small updates to saio doc https://review.openstack.org/484016 | 18:57 |
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