Wednesday, 2017-02-22

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timburkezaitcev: "relatively stable"? have *you seen* what's going on in libec lately? there were *so many bugs*! but it's gonna be great now; kota_ made sure ;-)02:49
timburkejust gotta sort out https://bugs.launchpad.net/liberasurecode/+bug/166632002:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1666320 in liberasurecode "crc32 implementation is schizophrenic" [Undecided,New]02:49
djatimburke: good news, without reading the bug I can tell you how what it is and hwo to fix it02:50
djatimburke: aww, someone beat me to the punchline in the bug report02:50
djatimburke: our crc32 is shadowed by zlib02:50
djatimburke: whenever we load liberasurecode through python02:50
djatimburke: I came across this building an ppc64le crc speedup02:51
timburkedja: yeah, i know what's going on; what makes me nervous is i don't know whether we can fix it without breaking existing users02:51
djatimburke: yeah, reaidng the bug report I think you're probably screwed02:51
timburkei must admit though, i rather hate how the comments are clearly lying to me :-(02:51
djatimburke: the good news is that any user up through swift will be using zlib02:51
djaso if you're willing to assert swift->pyeclib->liberasurecode you can just chuck the old code02:52
timburkebut now we're not just *swift developers* but *C library maintainers*. i dunno how to resolve it :-/02:52
djayeah.02:52
timburkei'm really *really* tempted to just scrap the whole thing and pretend it never happened02:53
djaI did a ppc64le implementaiton: i first renamed the function then added some more cases.02:54
timburkethe extra fun part is when you realize you can break existing data by twiddling LD_PRELOAD02:54
djatimburke: I would say you're right to scrap the whole thing02:54
djaif you're twiddling ldpreload though, all bets are already off :P02:55
timburkeit's *so tempting*. so very tempting02:55
timburketru dat02:55
djatimburke: it's really difficult to see a better solution02:55
djatimburke: i mean the only other thing would be to rename the symbols (or do symbol visibility stuff) and fix them at the same time02:55
djabut I agree if anyone has used the broken impl, there's no real hope02:56
timburkewe could do some version detection -- we bake that into the fragment metadata currently, so we could compute both crcs and allow either02:57
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timburkebut i frankly just don't want to write that patch02:57
timburkeit'll be ugly and i have no evidence that anyone is actually affected02:58
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djatimburke: so if (version < new fixed version) { return real_crc_ok() || weird_crc_ok() } else { return real_crc_ok() }02:58
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timburkeyup02:59
djatimburke: I was talking with john dickinson at LCA; he was talking about merging the repos/release process of pyeclib and liberasure code03:00
djatimburke: if you can bring them together, you can then leave an old version of liberasurecode and put the fixes in the combined repo03:00
djatimburke: then you can assert that all users are going through python03:01
djatimburke: so you can safely drop the old crc code03:01
djatimburke: that's probably the only way you can not accidentally break any hypothetical liberasurecode-but-not-pyeclib users03:01
* dja -> meeting03:03
timburkehmmm... might work... dunno if onovy will be on board though... he seemed to want the new repo beget (1) python with libec statically linked for pypi (2) libec *.sos for general distro consumption, and (3) python dynamically linked against (2), again for distros03:03
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djatimburke: fair enough. I think you want to avoid a version switch in the header; you'll end up owning it for ever like MySQL etc do for old table versions03:24
djatimburke: I'd say just break it :)03:24
timburkesomething tells me the rest of swift may say "yeah, we own it. forever. it sucks"03:25
timburke(hi clayg!)03:25
timburkeif he's still up03:25
djatimburke: well at least we can pull out the weird SSE stuff?03:25
timburkepretty sure. that seems like nothing but lies03:25
djaif we're just holding one weird table-based implementation hopefully we can stash that in the corner somewhere03:26
djatimburke: I'm interested in getting the API right here becasue on ppc64le we need to do dynamic probing to check we have the hardware capability03:26
dja(or we compile and hope no-one runs on old HW)03:26
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djatimburke: I'm happy to write some of the code - I am poking around in that area anyway. I was hoping to do some symbol hiding by default which should also help avoid namespace collisions in future.03:30
djatimburke: if we really decide that we own all the pieces.03:30
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timburkewat http://logs.openstack.org/65/433565/3/check/gate-swift-tox-xfs-tmp-py27-ubuntu-xenial/7051067/console.html#_2017-02-21_20_32_56_34746207:58
timburkehow did that job pass for the previous attempt? and why did crypto fail??07:59
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Dw_Snquick question regarding replcations, I have one swift proxy and 2 object storage servers, each server is in a diff. zone..the rings has replication factor of two. if one of the servers went down, the current data in the ring, will get replicated twice in the singel server ? or it is per zone replication factor ?10:07
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kota_good  morning12:52
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openstackgerritMahati Chamarthy proposed openstack/swift master: Test coverage for reconstructor  https://review.openstack.org/43652212:55
timburkegood morning, kota_!12:55
kota_good morning timburke! it looks various liberasurecode talks in the last night? (you ware at bar though :P)12:57
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timburkesee, and everybody thought i was being anti-social... i was talking! just not to them :P12:58
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mahatichello!13:03
timburkehi mahatic!13:03
kota_timburke: yeah, it should be good13:03
kota_mahatic: o/13:03
timburkei should probably go get breakfast...13:03
mahaticfrom yesterday's convo, looks like "simple example: small XFS corruption and file gets lost" - no idea yet to fix this case ?13:03
mahatictimburke: kota_ o/13:03
mathiasbgood morning!13:03
kota_mathiasb: good morning!13:03
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* kota_ is shitting around swift table13:49
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notmynamekota_: I hope that's a typo ;-)14:36
notmynamedja: on the topic of libec and pyeclib futures, it's been talked about some this week already14:37
notmynamedja: both tdasilva and clayg talked to -infra people about it, and I think the new plan is to *not* join the repos14:37
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kota_notmyname: oh, it's my typo with sitting :/18:55
* kota_ is in the storlets room for now, will be back to the swift room18:56
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift master: EC Fragment Duplication - Foundational Global EC Cluster Support  https://review.openstack.org/21916518:56
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openstackgerritChristian Schwede proposed openstack/swift master: Add support to increase object ring partition power  https://review.openstack.org/33729719:23
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claygredbo: https://github.com/swiftstack/tsync19:41
claygkota_: we still need to talk about composite rings - but ... well I guess everyone is busy ftm19:42
notmynameclayg: composite rings? https://www.carbon6rings.com19:43
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kota_clayg: sure, am... maybe will be back to swift room in a half hour19:50
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openstackgerritTimur Alperovich proposed openstack/swift master: Expand SLO manifest documentation.  https://review.openstack.org/43711020:06
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gcbI'm wondering if  swiftstack folks are at the PTG, I'm in the room, would like to talk with someone from swiftstack :-)20:07
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pdardeau_clayg: can you tell us about tsync?20:17
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openstackgerritJim Cheung proposed openstack/liberasurecode master: Add Phazr.IO libphazr backend to liberasurecode  https://review.openstack.org/42435320:30
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tdasilvaacoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232162/52/swift/common/middleware/symlink.py@18120:58
patchbotpatch 232162 - swift - Symlink implementation.20:58
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openstackgerritChristian Schwede proposed openstack/swift master: Add support to increase object ring partition power  https://review.openstack.org/33729721:06
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claygpdardeau_: i explained it to redbo?  you should be here!  ;)21:14
clayggcb: we're all in the swift room - did you find notmyname ?21:14
gcbclayg, yea, just talked with him :-) thanks21:15
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claygtimburke: nerd snipe lp bug #166712221:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1667122 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "object server logs wrong status code for 412" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166712221:37
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timburkeclayg: like 99% of the time swift + 412 means we're doing *something* with wrong status codes. just going by title, this is *nothing* new21:39
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pdardeau_clayg: true that! hopefully i'll attend Boston21:46
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openstackgerritTim Burke proposed openstack/swift master: Increase SLO maximums  https://review.openstack.org/43717322:11
openstackgerritChristian Schwede proposed openstack/swift master: Add support to increase object ring partition power  https://review.openstack.org/33729722:19
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timburkemattoliverau: https://docs.python.org/2/library/time.html#time.tzset22:35
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timburkemattoliverau: i think you wanted "UTC-11" instead of "UTC+11" which is just one more instance of how crazy it is working with time22:36
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timburke"If preceded by a ‘-‘, the timezone is east of the Prime Meridian; otherwise, it is west." unlike *every other place you work with timezones* :-/22:37
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garyjkota_: hello kota23:21
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kota_Hello garyj23:26
garyjHow are you? We just uploaded a new patch for PhazrIO.23:27
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garyjWe merged your suggestions into the new code23:27
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