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| kota_ | good morning | 00:58 |
| kota_ | glad to hear, notmyname you've been back :-) | 00:59 |
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| kota_ | timburke: ok, so it's a bug (or design?) for both mode. thanks! | 00:59 |
| timburke | kota_: "bug" seems appropriate, though there may have been a conscious design decision at some point | 01:02 |
| kota_ | timburke: exactly, and thanks for updating api-ref. will look at again :-) | 01:04 |
| kota_ | clayg: still here? | 01:04 |
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| timburke | i know he went home at any rate, not sure if he'll be online | 01:05 |
| kota_ | timburke: ah, ok. | 01:05 |
| kota_ | timburke: hmm... i thought I'd like to ping him for my review before I'm going to be in vacation :/ | 01:06 |
| timburke | which review? | 01:07 |
| kota_ | timburke: patch 219165 :-) | 01:07 |
| patchbot | kota_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219165/ - swift - EC Fragment Duplication - Foundational Global EC C... | 01:07 |
| timburke | kota_: i'll make sure he sees it :-) | 01:08 |
| kota_ | timburke: you can do that too though ;-) | 01:08 |
| timburke | indeed | 01:08 |
| kota_ | small notice, clayg has reviewd it once, and i addressed his comments in the newest patch set. | 01:09 |
| kota_ | so now i'm waiting him again, or other reviewers :-) | 01:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | houweichao proposed openstack/swift: make the logger information format https://review.openstack.org/351132 | 01:33 |
| * charz morning | 01:39 | |
| zhengyin | good morning everyone | 01:39 |
| zhengyin | kota_ : good morning, kota | 01:40 |
| kota_ | good morning charz and zhengyin | 01:40 |
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| kota_ | mahatic_: on patch 346865, I noticed some concerns in the last night and now I'm making sure the get_hashes and invalidate_hash behaviors. | 04:04 |
| patchbot | kota_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346865/ - swift - Delete old tombstones | 04:04 |
| kota_ | mahatic_: my test at gist might be wrong. I will notify you when I can get sure for it sorry. | 04:05 |
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| mahatic_ | kota_: sure, np. I will look into it too today. thanks | 04:47 |
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| kota_ | I finally got it! | 05:39 |
| kota_ | mahatic_: still here? | 05:39 |
| kota_ | mahatic: new tests for your, here https://gist.github.com/bloodeagle40234/3224f3ccb7d78862cb35dec856c263bb | 05:40 |
| mahatic_ | kota_: yup. but I'm afraid, I haven't looked into it after yesterday | 05:40 |
| mahatic_ | ah okay, looking | 05:40 |
| kota_ | mahatic_: i think you're correct calling get_hashes(<snip>, suffixes=['the dir to recalculate']) can force to reclaim. | 05:41 |
| kota_ | what I checked in the test above is get_hashes behaviors AFTER invalidate_hash. | 05:42 |
| kota_ | amazingly, get_hashes may not reclaim the .ts if the suffix is in invalidate file entry. | 05:43 |
| kota_ | that happen if the suffix dir is already empty (or no meaningful .data file exists in) | 05:44 |
| kota_ | https://gist.github.com/bloodeagle40234/3224f3ccb7d78862cb35dec856c263bb#file-invalidate_hash_and_get_hashes_test-diff-L51-L55 | 05:44 |
| mahatic_ | kota_: it does check the reclaim age and manages to reclaim (since it calls hash_suffix_dir->cleanup_disk) | 05:45 |
| kota_ | however, as you suggested yesterday, if we call get_hashes directly, it can force to update hash.pkl, https://gist.github.com/bloodeagle40234/3224f3ccb7d78862cb35dec856c263bb#file-invalidate_hash_and_get_hashes_test-diff-L57-L63 | 05:45 |
| kota_ | mahatic_: yes | 05:45 |
| kota_ | and set suffix arg is needed to force it. | 05:45 |
| mahatic_ | yeah, suffix arg and a few more - https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/obj/diskfile.py#L1223 | 05:47 |
| kota_ | "suffixes" for get_hashes arg, "recalculate" for _get_hashes | 05:48 |
| kota_ | a bit complicated :P | 05:48 |
| mahatic_ | heh | 05:48 |
| kota_ | so the difference from my first thought is invalidate_hash can always reclaim the .ts but it was not true. | 05:48 |
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| kota_ | ok, mahatic_ probably knows how we can progress this :-) | 05:49 |
| kota_ | some imporovments for this seems to call get_hashes for each suffix dir (i mean, not only each time when finding reclaimable .ts file) | 05:50 |
| kota_ | anyway | 05:51 |
| mahatic_ | wouldn't it be similar to making a call to invalidate_hash (like the prev solution) | 05:51 |
| mahatic_ | kota_: we will have that overhead of doing it for all the directories, right? | 05:52 |
| kota_ | maybe, no? | 05:53 |
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| kota_ | need to make sure but, with quick looking of code, the calculateion targets are entries in hash.pkl unless we set do_listdir=True | 05:55 |
| mahatic_ | okay I will look at tha | 05:55 |
| mahatic_ | that | 05:56 |
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| acoles | kota_: when are you away for vacation? | 08:58 |
| kota_ | acoles: near place from tokyo. just a couple of hours driving. | 08:58 |
| kota_ | ah sorry | 08:59 |
| kota_ | I misread, when/where. | 08:59 |
| kota_ | acoles: I am going to be in vacation in this weekend and take rest for a week. | 09:00 |
| acoles | kota_: sounds good, enjoy the rest! | 09:01 |
| kota_ | acoles: thanks :-) | 09:01 |
| acoles | kota_: I have you global EC patch on my list to review. problem is my list is too long, and keeps getting longer :( but I'll try to look soon. | 09:02 |
| kota_ | acoles: awesome! glad to hear! I also wants to try your optimistic GET again. | 09:03 |
| kota_ | probably, it's high priority to me after my vacation :P | 09:03 |
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| acoles | kota_: yep I think I should probably also review my optimistic GETs patch - it has been so long it may need some updating, idk. | 09:04 |
| kota_ | indeed | 09:04 |
| acoles | maybe I should be more optimistic about optimistic GETS :) | 09:05 |
| kota_ | acoles: lol | 09:05 |
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| acoles | kota_: in San Antonio I mentioned that maybe we could remove the requirement for at least one *durable* fragment in the set, and simply require a set of fragments at same timestamp for a GET to succeed. I also suggested we could try to re-use the same code for the reconstructor. Afterwards I realised that for reconstructor we probably want to require at least one single durable. So I think I should leave the patch the way | 09:10 |
| acoles | it is. It is still a lot better than the current "all fragments must be durable" strategy. | 09:10 |
| kota_ | acoles: yes, i remember that. | 09:12 |
| kota_ | acoles: on your thought, does it happen soon. I thought it will be after optimistic GETs | 09:13 |
| kota_ | soon? | 09:13 |
| kota_ | so we have a bunch of ideas to make EC better :/ | 09:14 |
| kota_ | sounds like, optimistic GETs saves current all fragments must be durable strategy and expanding them to reconstuctor (it needs to make generic helpers which can be used both proxy and reconstructor) | 09:16 |
| kota_ | that's the order I've been thinking of. | 09:16 |
| kota_ | used by | 09:17 |
| acoles | kota_: yes: land optimistic GETs for proxy first, later refactor to share code with reconstructor. | 09:17 |
| acoles | is that what you think ^^ ? | 09:17 |
| kota_ | acoles: I'm with :-) | 09:18 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: kota_ is there a patch for optimistic gets? Can I have the patch number please? | 09:19 |
| acoles | kota_: hmmm, I guess we could maybe choose to reconstruct an object even if we do not get any durable fragments, because the fragment we reconstruct *will* be durable. I need to consider that some more. | 09:19 |
| kota_ | mahatic_: patch 215276 | 09:20 |
| patchbot | kota_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215276/ - swift - Enable object server to return non-durable data | 09:20 |
| mahatic_ | thanks kota_ ! | 09:20 |
| acoles | ah kota_ beat me to it :) | 09:20 |
| mahatic_ | :) | 09:21 |
| kota_ | acoles: yeah, just we need ec_k fragments to reconstruct. | 09:21 |
| acoles | kota_: yes. we do not want to waste effort reconstructing an object that is not marked as durable anywhere, but what I have just realised is that the act of reconstructing will make the object durable. interesting. | 09:23 |
| acoles | kota_: thing is, IIRC the optimistic GETs patch would be simpler if we did not require a single durable. IIRC in particular the tests got simpler. So if we *do* think that is a good strategy for proxy and reconstructor then it may be worth changing now (in proxy patch). | 09:26 |
| acoles | kota_: I'll try to get some more opinions e.g clayg | 09:26 |
| acoles | timburke: can this condition ever be True: "clayg: ... you and acoles_ are right" :P | 09:29 |
| acoles | kota_: k. have a great vacation! | 09:29 |
| kota_ | interesting, I'm looking forward to the progress :-) | 09:31 |
| kota_ | thanks | 09:32 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: kota_ I've marked it and would like look at it. Is there any other etherpad or some notes that I should also be looking at? | 09:32 |
| mahatic_ | ok, the bugs have enough discussion on them | 09:35 |
| kota_ | mahatic_: well, idk right now if we had some docs about it. | 09:35 |
| acoles | mahatic_: I don't think so. | 09:35 |
| acoles | there is a whiteboard in jrichli's office :P | 09:35 |
| acoles | maybe I took a photo | 09:36 |
| mahatic_ | lol | 09:36 |
| mahatic_ | oh cool, if there is info that could be deciphered from the photo | 09:36 |
| acoles | mahatic_: now that ^^ would be a stretch goal :) | 09:37 |
| mahatic_ | :) I thought so | 09:37 |
| * kota_ is heading home. maybe absent the next irc meeting in a vacation week. | 09:41 | |
| acoles | mahatic_: kota_ https://1drv.ms/i/s!ArjPoCii0PZIhP9Mab8KuZztITcz7A | 09:41 |
| kota_ | woops | 09:41 |
| kota_ | acoles: that's the picture! | 09:42 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: thanks | 09:42 |
| mahatic_ | kota_: enjoy your vacation! | 09:42 |
| kota_ | mahatic_: thank you | 09:43 |
| acoles | kota_: have fun! | 09:43 |
| kota_ | acoles: ^^ | 09:43 |
| acoles | mahatic_: the design changed from that picture but you can at least see the word "optimistic" :P | 09:44 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: lol yes that's what I first noticed | 09:44 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: the design changed and is that in the patch? | 09:44 |
| mahatic_ | I believe it's from the hackathon in IBM austin | 09:45 |
| mahatic_ | looks like it, the latest patch is this Feb | 09:47 |
| acoles | mahatic_: Yes the initial discussion was at the Austin hackathon, but after that I worked on it some more and it evolved. The commit message summarizes the goals. | 09:47 |
| mahatic_ | acoles: yup, thanks | 09:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jiong Liu proposed openstack/swift: Make the logger information format https://review.openstack.org/351132 | 10:15 |
| acoles | mmotiani: hi, I left a comment on the patch you asked about. | 10:32 |
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| arcimboldo | hi all, is there a way to know (via API possibly) which objects have been created by a specific user? (liberty w/ keystone authentication) | 10:35 |
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| acoles | arcimboldo: objects are stored in accounts which have a 1:1 mapping to keystone *tenants* but the keystone *user* id is not saved with the object | 10:41 |
| acoles | arcimboldo: sorry, I should say "projects" rather than "tenants". | 10:42 |
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| arcimboldo | acoles, thank you, this is what I assumed but I wasn't sure | 11:28 |
| arcimboldo | for the tenant-project debate, I really whish they would stop renaming stuff :) | 11:28 |
| acoles | arcimboldo: +1 | 11:29 |
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| ma91 | Hi, I would like to have a Swift user who has readonly access to a container, that's it. Does he need to belong to a role listed under operator_roles ? | 13:42 |
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| ma91 | found, nevermind. | 14:01 |
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| mmotiani | acoles: Thank you :-) | 14:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: check _last_part_moves when pretend_min_part_hours_passed https://review.openstack.org/346806 | 14:56 |
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| jlvillal | notmyname: I think there is an NFC Yubikey, that could work with a phone. Not 100% sure on that, but I believe so. | 16:23 |
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| timburke | acoles: arcimboldo: now that we've got object sysmeta, it's certainly a thing that could be done in middleware, though | 16:39 |
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| clayg | timburke: good point! | 16:55 |
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| acoles | clayg: hi. kota and I were chatting about optimistic gets earlier...I think we agreed in San Antonio that for a GET through the proxy we don't require any fragment to be durable, as long as we get a consistent set. right? | 16:59 |
| acoles | timburke: true | 16:59 |
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| tdasilva | clayg, timburke: in fact, i believe the ibm team working on swiftonfile has a middleware to send user information as headers to the object server | 17:28 |
| tdasilva | sorry, not clayg, acoles^^^ | 17:29 |
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| acoles | tdasilva: timburke it would be as imple change to keystoneauth if we thought it worth being a default behaviour | 18:08 |
| acoles | simple* | 18:08 |
| acoles | or an option | 18:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: add reminder how to run debug func tests https://review.openstack.org/351873 | 18:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: add reminder how to run debug func tests https://review.openstack.org/351873 | 18:27 |
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| jrichli | acoles_: thanks for looking at patch 326903 | 19:25 |
| patchbot | jrichli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326903/ - swift - Raise 412 response on expirer | 19:25 |
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| clayg | acoles_: yes RE optomistic GETs - it's like you said about replicated objects a 200 doesn't mean it won't 400 later if enough data is lost - we should be optomistic that the durable is durable even if not available | 19:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/88736 | 20:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mohit Motiani proposed openstack/swift: Add a try block in __init__.py https://review.openstack.org/351934 | 21:39 |
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