Tuesday, 2016-02-23

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openstackgerritShu Muto proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Drop py33 support  https://review.openstack.org/25770700:19
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takashigood morning!00:47
mattoliverautakashi: morning00:49
kota_good morning00:50
kota_takashi, mattolvierau: o/00:50
takashimattoliverau, kota_: o/00:51
mattoliveraukota_: morning00:52
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openstackgerritDaisuke Morita proposed openstack/swift: Fix bug expirer unexpectedly deletes object created after x-delete-at  https://review.openstack.org/28335102:17
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notmynamegood evening04:13
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mattoliveraunotmyname: evening04:17
mattoliverauits a very quiet day04:17
notmynameyeah?04:17
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mattoliverauwell in channel04:17
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janonymousmorning all :)04:18
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mattoliveraualso its about 39 degrees here today, and the area I'm trying to work in has no aircon, so kinda melting :(04:18
mattoliveraujanonymous: morning!04:18
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notmynamewow04:19
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notmynamehello janonymous04:19
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janonymousnotmyname, mattoliverau: o/04:20
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notmynameanyone know haomaiwang or why he keeps joining and parting?04:20
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mattoliveraunope, to both questions04:21
janonymousanyone in free time please review a very small patch 254276 , thanks in advance :)04:22
patchbotjanonymous: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254276/ - swift - clear pycache and remove all pyc/pyo before starti...04:22
notmynamejanonymous: are you coming to bristol next week?04:23
janonymousi wanted to, but unfortunately i would not be able to make it :(04:23
notmynameah, ok. that's too bad04:23
janonymousnotmyname:  i would follow up through etherpad and irc04:23
* notmyname is currently looking at a small patch to make swift work better under pypy04:27
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janonymousany opinions on this patch 25705 would also be very helpful :)04:37
patchbotjanonymous: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25705/ - python-neutronclient - Change variable name of admin_state_down to admin_... (MERGED)04:37
notmynamejanonymous: great patch. really great. ;-)04:37
janonymoussry wrong link : patch 25705304:39
patchbotjanonymous: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257053/ - swift - Using ostestr to run unittests04:39
janonymousnotmyname : Hahaa, :P04:40
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mahaticgood morning04:48
notmynamehello mahatic04:48
mahatichello04:48
janonymousmahatic: o/04:49
mattoliveraumahatic: morning04:49
mahaticjanonymous: mattoliverau o/04:51
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mahatichmm, the design summit format change doesn't look too good for non-US folks04:58
notmynamemahatic: ah? please say more. what are you thinking?05:00
claygnotmyname: two trips is more expensive than one05:01
mahaticthese contributor-events would probably (this has been said by ttx) happen more in US, which will increase travel costs for non-US folks05:01
claygnotmyname: business folks and bean counters might think the wrong one is more expensive05:02
claygoh right, then there's the do developer stuff close to developers - like we're not all over the world and hence the global summits - good point mahatic !05:02
mahaticthere wouldn't be an incentive for companies to send folks for exclusive contributor summits (add to that increased travel costs) aka no presentations/booth WOO stuff etc05:05
notmynamemahatic: do you think "co-located midcycle would be better for cross-project communication" is a good enough reason to make those other issues worth the potential extra hassel?05:06
claygnotmyname: I think the foundation should organize a cross project mid-cycle - like all the projects have already independently organized a mid-cycle - mid-cyles are good - let's do more mid-cycles05:07
mahaticnotmyname: weren't we already having a reasonable cross-project communication with the earlier format?05:08
mahaticin the design summits05:08
claygmahatic: apparently not05:08
notmynamemahatic: what do you think?05:08
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* notmyname is just asking questions to see where the logic goes and suss out what you're thinking05:08
mahaticnotmyname: and like you've responded, sure a few people might have varied interests/busy week, but yet I see most of us spending good time on dev stuff05:08
notmynamemahatic: clayg: IMO there is very very little cross-project communication at existing design summits05:09
notmynamehowever, the existing design summits are generally the best place to have those discussions when they do happen. generally much much more effective than IRC conversations05:10
notmynameclayg: as in the foundation should sponsor a a few dozen different individual midcycles? or that they should have more midcycles all together?05:11
mahaticnotmyname: clayg :  hmm, well I do see slots for them. yes also a bit of a struggle in getting together people for cross-project stuff. but I still thought they were going alright including communication with operators05:12
notmynamemahatic: I *definitely* agree that the summits are good for ops discussions. and I'd guess it's because ops are allowed to go because of all the business goals too (booths, customer/partner meetings)05:14
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notmyname"We are teaming up to tender tales, tools and techniques to technical teams in order to transfer troves of terabytes to tenable targets."05:19
mahaticnotmyname: i'm curious as to what scope would the "new mid-cycle" be (which is going to be in place of design summit in main conference)05:29
mahaticwill it be scoped by foundation, or more ad-hoc by devs whoever are attending the main conference05:30
notmynamemahatic: yeah. some of the comments were a little confusing. some of what ttx said seemed to imply a big formal even. but lauren's comments implied not replacing existing mid-cycles.05:30
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notmyname1 core/ 1 worker on proxy (200 concurrency in client, zero-byte PUTs)06:24
notmyname197 PUTs/s under pypy (spikes to about 275, eyeballed 250 avg for most of the run)06:24
notmyname114 PUTs/s under cpython (spikes to about 150, eyeballed 125 avg for most of the run)06:24
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openstackgerritKota Tsuyuzaki proposed openstack/swift: Fix ringbuilder tests  https://review.openstack.org/28343208:02
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mingdang1hello08:37
mingdang1I have a question,hashes.pkl file have a dict "{'5d5': '908320688ad95e03cabc77f31701b551'}", what the 908320688ad95e03cabc77f31701b551 means?08:38
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mingdang1@kota_ Can you help me?08:38
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed openstack/swift: dry out container unittests  https://review.openstack.org/28217309:19
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acolesmingdang1: the dict contains entries mapping a suffix dir name (5d5) to a hash value that is calculated from the object files found under that suffix dir09:28
mingdang1@acoles oh,but I use command "md5sum object" calculate value is not match the hashes.pkl,why09:30
mingdang1the value that "md5sum object" calculate is the metadata "Etag"09:31
acolesmingdang1: the hash value in hashes.pkl is unrelated to the objects' Etag values09:32
acolesmingdang1: it is calculated using object filenames, for all objects under the suffix dir09:33
mingdang1ok, I understand,thanks09:34
acolesmingdang1: the idea being that it represents the current state of a suffix dir for the purposes of comparing with the same suffix dir on another node,09:34
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acolesmingdang1: the replicator uses the values to decide if there is any difference between nodes before replicating (or not)09:34
mingdang1If the value is different,how replicator decide which is correct?09:36
acolesif the values are different then the replicator will attempt to sync the suffix dirs, with the goal of making local and remote the same, and the suffix hashes get recalculated.09:42
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acolesto reach a "synced" state replication may need to occur in both directions09:43
mingdang1If the remote hashes.pkl is wrong...09:44
acolesso each replicator pushes what it has to other nodes, each node keeps whatever is *newest*, and eventually all will be syned09:44
acolessynced*09:44
acoles(that's a simplified description of what actually happens btw)09:45
mingdang1okay,thanks very much09:45
kota_mingdang1: sorry too late, you seem to get an answer from acoles.09:46
acoleshey kota_, your answer may be better :)09:46
mingdang1thanks you both09:47
kota_acoles: no? but thanks for helping him ;)09:47
acolesmingdang1: one other thing to note - the valuein hashes.pkl may be None - that indicates that the contents of the suffix dir have changed but the hash value has not been recalculated yet.09:49
mingdang1oh,got it09:50
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asettleacoles_: you awakeeeeee?11:13
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acolesasettle: hi11:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: dry out container unittests  https://review.openstack.org/28217311:48
asettleacoles: ahoy hoy. RE: your HP to Hewlett Packard request. Obv happy to do that but I have a smidgeon of a problemo with regards to the links and the commands that specifically have HP in them11:51
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acolesasettle: rigth. i see there's some /opt/hp/ parts in command paths which probably need to be sanitised somehow cos they look to be specific to our deployment.11:57
acolesasettle: and I doubt the wiki urls will work11:58
asettleVery much so. I'm going to go through at the end of this week and come up with some relatively quick and easy tasks that people can do without too much knowledge of the doc, such as that. If you're okay with me leaving it until that point?11:58
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acolesasettle: oh sure. and next week you can ask Donagh face to face what to do with some of those paths and links.11:59
asettleSounds good. There's a lot of great stuff in here and I don't want it to go under-utilised by the community cause half the doc is broken12:00
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acolesright, appreciate you sifting through it.12:01
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asettleYeah no stress :) it's going to be messy still, the conversion did some really interesting... things12:01
asettledocx to rst is not simples.12:02
openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/swift: WIP: New operational procedures guide  https://review.openstack.org/27824512:02
asettleSpeaking of12:05
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/swift: WIP: New operational procedures guide  https://review.openstack.org/27824512:25
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kaletaGood afternoon from Brno. I would like to draw attention to review https://review.openstack.org/280200 , which introduces calling COPY method to swiftclient. It was implemented mainly to simplify object metadata changes.13:36
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tdasilvakaleta: hello, i started reviewing that patch yesterday and will continue today13:59
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kaletatdasilva: thanks14:00
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mrmojeGood afternoon from Nairobi. Pls allow me also to draw attn to https://review.openstack.org/281700/, which fixes pseudo-folder uploads for some posix and all winnt paths14:15
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873615:08
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acolestdasilva: thanks for the cleanup on patch 15692315:16
patchbotacoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156923/ - swift - Refactor server side copy as middleware15:16
tdasilvaacoles: did you have a chance to take a look? beside small text cleanup, i removed _reroute and made that change to proxy/server.py15:17
acolesyes, i just looked over changes, all looks good15:18
tdasilvaacoles: cool, thanks!15:18
tdasilvai just need to find some cores to bribe now15:18
acolestdasilva: i need to do a more thorough review of the whole patch against master, need to check no test coverage got lost15:18
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tdasilvaacoles: yeah, sure thing15:18
acolestdasilva: yeah! bribe, blackmail, whatever works ;)15:18
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tdasilvaacoles: I hear there are good pubs in bristol, maybe there's a core who would like free beer ;)15:19
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/swift: WIP: New operational procedures guide  https://review.openstack.org/27824515:21
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acolestdasilva: idk, they're a sober bunch :P15:21
tdasilvaacoles: in terms of code coverage, i noticed that these tests were removed: https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/test/unit/proxy/controllers/test_obj.py#L1580,L164415:22
tdasilvaacoles: but i'm not sure they apply any longer, I think they were added to test _reroute.15:23
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notmynamegood morning15:59
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jrichlitdasilva: I have a few questions about the copy as mw changes16:14
tdasilvajrichli: sure16:14
jrichlilike, why is this change happening with this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156923/27/swift/common/constraints.py16:14
patchbotjrichli: patch 156923 - swift - Refactor server side copy as middleware16:14
jrichli(X-Copy-From no longer must have zero byte body)16:15
tdasilvajrichli: oh ok, so, i didn't make all changes, but I'll try to answer them as I can...so in this particular case, check_object_creation is called from the controller code, but we want that check to happen in the middleware16:16
tdasilvaso we stuck it there16:16
tdasilvaand removed from check_object_creation16:16
jrichliok, i will look at that again.  next question, why not much content in doc/source/rst?16:17
tdasilvajrichli: so, if you look in server_side_copy, line 36716:17
tdasilvajrichli: isn't this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156923/27/doc/source/middleware.rst pulling the documentation from server_side_copy.py16:18
patchbottdasilva: patch 156923 - swift - Refactor server side copy as middleware16:18
tdasilvajrichli: check out: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/23/156923/27/check/gate-swift-docs/9e0409e//doc/build/html/middleware.html#module-swift.common.middleware.server_side_copy16:19
jrichliah, ok.  i learn more everyday :-)16:19
tdasilva;)16:19
acolestdasilva: jrichli yup i just found the content-length change, line 366 in server_side_copy.py16:20
tdasilvaactually, you just made me notice something I don't like about those docs16:20
tdasilvaacoles: correct16:20
jrichlitdasilva: ah, ok16:21
acolestdasilva: what do you not like?16:21
tdasilvathe curl commands all look messed up16:21
tdasilvathe examples16:22
tdasilvaunder the section: "Object Copy"16:22
jrichliI don't know much about cors, but I did notice that this adds COPY to the allow methods for an OPTIONS request.  I guess this is ok?16:23
tdasilvajrichli: mm...now you got me16:24
acolestdasilva: maybe missing the double colon after "Example"16:24
tdasilvaacoles: yeah, i think so, trying to compare to versioned writes, which has nice curl examples16:24
jrichlitdasilva: I might ask kota_ or ho.  They seem to know about cors16:26
tdasilvajrichli: yeah, i will try to dig into it, but honestly don't know much16:27
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jrichliso, my last question (for now) is really just to educate me.  I am a little confused by the comment before calling _load_object_post_as_copy_conf, and what is all happening there.16:30
acolestdasilva: jrichli on master COPY was an allowed method, by virtue of @public decorator, see allowed_methods swift.proxy.controllers.base.Controller#allowed_methods16:30
acolesbut now there is no COPY method in obj controller the copy middleware has to add it to the allowed methods.16:31
acoles(well, that's how i read it)16:31
jrichliacoles: ok, thx16:31
acolesi'd sleep better if someone else confirmed that :)16:31
acolesor confirm there's a test for it at least16:32
tdasilvaacoles: I see tests in test_server_side_copy16:33
tdasilvaacoles: but would like to confirm they are similar tests in master16:34
tdasilvaI need to step out for a bit16:37
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jrichliacoles tdasilva: FWIW, I removed the @cors_validation on the COPY method in obj.py and functests and unittests still pass.  Not sure what the cors_validation does in contrast to the @public decorator17:26
jrichli(this was on master)17:27
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jrichliyay!  patch 263902 got a +2 from dfg17:36
patchbotjrichli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263902/ - swift - Re-format the SLO manifest file on new multipart-m...17:36
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ZyricGood Morning17:54
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CaioBrentanoHey swift gurus... I'm proud to share with you this interview with the CEO of the company that NM and I work. When he talks about "4K content distribution", he is talking about Swift objects! ;) http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/globo-vod-globo-play-1201712749/18:21
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notmynamemillions of viewers watching 4k content streamed from Swift? that's really cool :-)18:23
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tdasilvaCaioBrentano, NM: very cool! thanks for sharing18:51
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NMThanks guys! We hope this is just the beginning :)18:58
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openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Fix up get_account_info and get_container_info  https://review.openstack.org/28097819:27
openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Make info caching work across subrequests  https://review.openstack.org/28097719:27
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notmynametimburke: any reason you only did +1 to path 257707? something else you're waiting for there?19:39
notmynamepatch 25770719:39
patchbotnotmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257707/ - python-swiftclient - Drop py33 support19:39
timburkenotmyname: mainly just wanting more input from other people in the swift community, see if anyone wants/needs py33 support19:40
notmynametimburke: if it's not tested with py33, then it doesn't really matter, does it? not tested == not supported, right?19:41
timburkealso if there are any other distros people care about that would default to py3319:41
timburkenotmyname: what, do you not have py27, py33, py34, py35, and pypy set up so you can run all of tox? :P19:42
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notmynamedoesn't matter what I have. matters what the CI servers have ;-)19:43
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notmynameI have the same opinion on patch 26448619:44
patchbotnotmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264486/ - swift-bench - Remove support for py33/py2619:44
timburkei'm not saying it *doesn't* matter what CI has; i'm just saying it's not *entirely* true that it's not tested19:45
timburkeif there someone really needed py33 support, we could add a third-party CI job to cover it. i want to know whether there's anyone that really needs that support19:47
timburke(plus, i decidedly *don't* want it to land before we have a release declaring end-of-support, like we did for py26)19:47
notmynameeasier to ask for forgiveness...19:48
timburkedefinitely. and i feel like i've left that window open long enough. we should probably go ahead and just merge it. *after* the release19:49
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: DO NOT MERGE: troubleshooting py34 bindep job  https://review.openstack.org/28289819:49
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timburkeoh yeah, notmyname: what's bindep?19:49
notmynameI have no clue19:50
timburkeand why am i seeing so many patches about it?19:50
notmynamesomething -infra is doing19:50
notmynameit said do not merge, so I decided not to think about it19:50
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timburkeyeah, that's pretty much what i figured, too. the noise is a bit annoying, though19:51
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pabelangergreetings! I was hoping somebody familiar with python-swiftclient unit tests would mind looking at the following error: http://logs.openstack.org/98/282898/1/experimental/gate-python-swiftclient-python34-bindep/2e6019c/console.html#_2016-02-21_20_17_05_93219:54
pabelangermaybe help point me in the right direction19:54
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timburkepabelanger: i'm much more curious about why it reports 6 failures, but doesn't say anything about what assertions failed20:06
pabelangertimburke: So, this is using a new infra image and it is possible we are missing dependencies in the gate20:07
notmynameI just put 3 of http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/solid-state-drives-dc-p3500-series.html in a server. after lunch I'll see what that does for swift :-)20:07
pabelangertimburke: that's what I am trying to figure out atm20:07
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pabelangertimburke: actual failures: http://paste.openstack.org/show/487940/20:11
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pgbridgeyour cluster's gonna be flying20:18
pgbridgeassuming that server pretty much is the cluster20:19
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timburkepabelanger: so the "No tenant specified" error is part of the expected behavior of test_post_container_bad_auth. that test (which is among the ones that is currently failing) has swiftclient.client.post_container raise an arbitrary exception, then verifies that the message from the exception appears in stderr. the trouble is that the message ("bad auth"; see https://github.com/openstack/python-swiftclient/blob/master/tests/unit/test_s20:34
timburkehell.py#L1114) is actually getting out to the log (http://logs.openstack.org/98/282898/1/experimental/gate-python-swiftclient-python34-bindep/2e6019c/console.html#_2016-02-21_20_17_05_998) instead of being captured by our CaptureOutput context manager20:34
timburkewhy *that*'s happening, i don't know. but it seems very odd to me that 5/6 of those failures just say "_StringException" (i would've expected a mismatch_error or whatever it is that testtools raises), and the one other one seems to mostly work *except when we try to output unicode*20:37
timburkethis part of the log seems relevant? http://logs.openstack.org/98/282898/1/experimental/gate-python-swiftclient-python34-bindep/2e6019c/console.html#_2016-02-21_20_17_08_13920:40
pabelangerokay, so maybe there is an issue with our shell20:42
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timburkemaybe? what does it have for $LANG?20:44
timburkealso, what happens if you just pull up python3 and try to print a unicode char?20:45
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: DO NOT MERGE: troubleshooting py34 bindep job  https://review.openstack.org/28289820:45
pabelangertimburke: I need to check out dib elements, but I wouldn't be surprise it is because we are missing language-pack-en20:46
pabelangerand / or locale settings20:46
pabelangerso, updated patch20:46
pabelangerwhile I get a local DIB built and tested20:46
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mattoliveraumorning21:03
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openstackgerritThiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: Refactor server side copy as middleware  https://review.openstack.org/15692321:15
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openstackgerritThiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift: fix formatting of bulk operations doc  https://review.openstack.org/28380721:24
notmynametdasilva: oh yeah. that's good21:24
tdasilva:)21:25
notmynameI'll wait for the docs gate jobs to build and look at it21:25
tdasilvajust noticed how bad they were when fixing copy middleware docs21:25
tdasilvano content change, just basic formatting21:25
notmynamemattoliverau: https://twitter.com/majorhayden/status/702233875687149568 ;-)21:27
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ahaleI was so confused when I started working with texans - "why are they talking about woodworking tools when i need some routes set up?!"21:35
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notmynamemattoliverau tells me it's mildly rude aussie slang :-)21:40
ahalehaha oh yeah routing hehe21:43
openstackgerritAndrew Welleck proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Query string functionality for containers  https://review.openstack.org/28381521:43
timburkepersonally, i like to rout my VMs and see them flee before me21:44
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: DO NOT MERGE: troubleshooting py34 bindep job  https://review.openstack.org/28289821:46
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mattoliverauyeah, route not root, I want to route traffic, not root it.. rooting is something rather questionable in Oz.21:55
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tdasilvahrou: hi, are you making it to the hackathon?22:02
tdasilvahrou: was wondering if there will be any new talks on symlinks22:03
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: DO NOT MERGE: troubleshooting py34 bindep job  https://review.openstack.org/28289822:03
torgomaticgood thing I've got an IRC bouncer, because I've been connecting and disconnecting my wifi all morning22:09
openstackgerritSamuel Merritt proposed openstack/swift: Fix StatsD tests to not use real DNS  https://review.openstack.org/28382822:09
torgomaticin related news, anyone going to the hackathon and planning to work on the plane should go review that change right there ^^.22:10
openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: DO NOT MERGE: troubleshooting py34 bindep job  https://review.openstack.org/28289822:11
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mattoliverautorgomatic: and start using gertty so y'all can review code while flying ;)22:17
torgomaticmattoliverau: indeed. works well on trains, too, which is why I noticed this thing :)22:18
openstackgerritDaisuke Morita proposed openstack/swift: WIP: Changing Policies  https://review.openstack.org/20932922:19
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Zyrictorgomatic: Would you be able to update patch 212824 soonish? It's a dependency of my current patches and I'll need to refactor for it.22:26
patchbotZyric: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212824/ - swift - Let developers/operators add watchers to object audit22:26
torgomaticZyric: I'm hoping to have it soon. Right now I've got some problem where my tests for a full queue end up sending SIGINT to the testrunner, aborting the run. Not sure how it's happening though.22:27
torgomaticAnd it only happens when run as part of a full run, naturally.22:27
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Zyrictorgomatic: Naturally :) Good luck with your debugging, please let me know when you get around to it22:28
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pabelangertimburke: it looks to be the LANG env variable is not setup properly.  Thanks for the help22:29
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ZyricBy the by, I'm looking for a job at the moment and would love you know the companies that employ Swift community members.22:30
timburkepabelanger: happy to help22:31
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: DO NOT MERGE: troubleshooting py34 bindep job  https://review.openstack.org/28289822:41
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openstackgerritPaul Belanger proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: DO NOT MERGE: troubleshooting py34 bindep job  https://review.openstack.org/28289823:01
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ho_good morning!23:49
openstackgerritReedip proposed openstack/swift-bench: Remove support for py33/py26  https://review.openstack.org/26448623:50
mattoliverauho_: morning!23:51
ho_mattoliverau: morning!23:52
notmynamehello23:53
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mattoliveraunotmyname: your back agian23:58
mattoliveraunotmyname: when you leaving for the UK?23:59
* notmyname never leaves23:59
notmynamefriday night23:59
mattoliveraulol, its true, i wasn't going to say anything :P23:59

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