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| kota_ | good morning, after summit at Tokyo. | 01:18 |
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| Zyric | Good morning kota_ :) What was it like at the summit? | 01:21 |
| kota_ | Zyric: hello, that was great productive week for next Mitaka-cycle. | 01:22 |
| Zyric | kota_: I'm very new to OpenStack and Swift, so not entirely sure what you mean by Mitaka-cycle - glad to hear it was productive though! | 01:24 |
| kota_ | Almost Swift design summit sessions ware full. | 01:24 |
| kota_ | Zyric: OpenStack has release names that orderd by alphabetical. | 01:25 |
| kota_ | Zyric: And we released "L"iberty in the last October. | 01:26 |
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| kota_ | Zyric: "M"itaka is the next release code name in next March-ish. I meant "Mitaka-cycle" is a half year development cycle since now to next March-ish./ | 01:28 |
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| notmyname | best to think of it as dev periods punctuated by the openstack summits. swift releases happen more often than that | 01:30 |
| Zyric | kota_: Thanks for the explanation, that makes a lot more sense now. Awesome that you managed to achieve a lot during the conference, must have been so cool to be part of a big open source community event like that. | 01:31 |
| kota_ | notmyname: exactly :-) | 01:32 |
| notmyname | jrichli: did the outline I sent you match what you remember from friday? | 01:37 |
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| jrichli | notmyname: yes, looks good. Since then, I have been formulating an idea :-) | 01:46 |
| notmyname | jrichli: ok. should I wait to make my stuff? | 01:46 |
| jrichli | notmyname: maybe. unless your "stuff" is to simply record what happened at summit. but if you mean the future plan, then yes .. wait. | 01:46 |
| jrichli | I will be making an email | 01:46 |
| notmyname | ok | 01:46 |
| jrichli | I hope this will allow the cluster full access to keys, but still have user-based keys | 01:47 |
| jrichli | do you know if Alistair will be working tomorrow? I know he was going to be off for awhile. i didn't remember the details of when that all starts exactly, tho | 01:48 |
| notmyname | next week, IIRC | 01:48 |
| notmyname | and maybe off. it's jury duty, so who knows | 01:48 |
| jrichli | i thought there was more than just that ... | 01:49 |
| notmyname | ah ok. maybe so | 01:49 |
| jrichli | anyway, hopefully he might at least read mail. ok, i will get to my explaination in email ... | 01:49 |
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| janonymous | Morning all , It was a nice summit , Matching names with faces :) | 03:17 |
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| kota_ | janonymous: good morning, thanks for comming Tokyo :-) | 03:30 |
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| janonymous | kota_ : Thanks for organizing such a good ride. :) | 04:03 |
| mahatic | good morning | 04:07 |
| notmyname | hello | 04:08 |
| mahatic | hola! | 04:09 |
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| jrichli | janonymous: it was great to meet you in person as well! | 04:44 |
| jrichli | kota_ : I agree with janonymous. thanks again for hosting the swift dev party. I also had fun at the HP event with you and ho :-) | 04:46 |
| janonymous | jrichli : :) | 04:46 |
| jrichli | mahatic notmyname: I replied to the email with some thoughts | 04:52 |
| notmyname | yeah, just reading over it now | 04:52 |
| mahatic | me too | 04:52 |
| notmyname | jrichli: my initial gut reaction is that it's good. probably will not be *exactly* what's implemented, but definitely a path forward | 04:53 |
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| notmyname | (I'm not sure what would be different. just a gut reaction ;-) | 04:54 |
| jrichli | notmyname : yay. at least this gives me some hope that a key server can still be used, while also providing a way for the cluster to access what it needs to satisfy features. | 04:58 |
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| notmyname | jrichli: I think the key part is that the key isn't managed separately from swift | 05:02 |
| notmyname | unfortunately, that probably buts more burden on swift. or a more clear definition of the actual scope we're solving with encryption | 05:02 |
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| jrichli | notmyname: yes. so, its still going to be different than what people I work with were thinking (still provider managed). As far as the definition of scope - yes, we will need to address that. | 05:04 |
| notmyname | but on the other hand, I'm not terribly in love with the idea of swift having another/separate API to do key management | 05:05 |
| notmyname | so, stuff to think on | 05:05 |
| jrichli | yes. although, there wasn't a good solution for that in the old client managed model either. | 05:06 |
| notmyname | but by moving forward with a "cluster key in a config file" I still think we're making progress toward (1) something useful itself and (2) not stopping work on a more complete plan that gets all the fancier features too | 05:06 |
| jrichli | correct. we (IBM) will still be developing the fancier feature version sooner than mitaka. and i want to be sure we go in a direction that will make sense upstream as well. | 05:09 |
| mahatic | jrichli: that makes sense. I was just going to ask if this will be an overhead for the ´fanicier´ stuff | 05:10 |
| jrichli | mahatic: I am not sure what you mean by "an overhead". It don't see it as something that will hamper our progress on the encryption effort, if that is what you mean. | 05:14 |
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| notmyname | unless it's that adding the plumbing and support for a future general solution slows down effort overall | 05:14 |
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| mahatic | notmyname: yeah, not if we have a definitive plan for this? (I dont know how definitive it can actually get though, at this point) | 05:16 |
| jrichli | notmyname: I will watch for that. the first patch is the easy part. its later when we have both versions being developed that will get tricky, I realize. | 05:19 |
| notmyname | jrichli: don't rush into it yet :-) | 05:19 |
| notmyname | the other stuff has to get done regardless. let's think on what's needed first (ie give it a day or 3 to think on) | 05:20 |
| mahatic | jrichli: by overhead I meant, when IBM comes up with a production keymaster and what we are currently working on - how difficult/easy will the integration be | 05:20 |
| notmyname | good point | 05:20 |
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| jrichli | notmyname: I'll do the best I can :-) | 05:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Lisák proposed openstack/swift: Change schedule priority of daemon/server in config https://review.openstack.org/238799 | 05:34 |
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| jrichli | well, tomorrow will be an interesting (possibly challenging) day for me. I gotta get some sleep! g'night. | 05:46 |
| mahatic_ | jrichli: good night | 05:48 |
| mahatic_ | and good luck ;) | 05:48 |
| peterlisak | hi, has someone time to review? another +2 needed, thx! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233096/ | 05:50 |
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| jith_ | hi all is it advisable to have ceph as backend for swift? so that i have configure cinder to same ceph | 06:59 |
| notmyname | jith_: unlike cinder, you don't enable "backends" with swift. swift itself implements object storage | 06:59 |
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| notmyname | jith_: there has been some work in the broader ecosystem to do something like what you describe, but that's not part of the upstream code repo | 07:01 |
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| jith_ | notmyname: ya thanks.. but we can configure right?? since i saw some code in github https://github.com/openstack/swift-ceph-backend ... | 07:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Lisák proposed openstack/swift: swift-init return codes https://review.openstack.org/230352 | 09:29 |
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| peterlisak | cschwede, hi, could you review? thx, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233096/ | 10:25 |
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| cschwede | peterlisak: review done :) | 13:40 |
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| cschwede | clayg: here is a very interesting paper/presentation regarding spinning down discs to save power for cold data: https://www.usenix.org/conference/osdi14/technical-sessions/presentation/balakrishnan | 13:53 |
| cschwede | clayg: relates to our discussions from Friday evening | 13:54 |
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| peterlisak | cschwede, thanks! | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/swift: swift-ring-builder can't remove a device with zero weight https://review.openstack.org/233096 | 14:37 |
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| jordanP | cschwede, hi. Could you hel me with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235933/3 (Fix testing issues) | 15:29 |
| jordanP | I am in charge of a CI and I want to test stable/kilo. This patch would help | 15:30 |
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| cschwede | jordanP: Hi! Sure, how can I help? AFAIR tests are running and passing now, thanks to acoles work? | 15:31 |
| jordanP | cschwede, yeah, all is green, but the patch is not merged | 15:31 |
| jordanP | maybe you could pull some strings :) | 15:32 |
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| cschwede | jordanP: i think the stable/kilo team needs to approve that patch, the regular Swift core reviewers can only add a +1/-1 on this branch | 15:32 |
| jordanP | cschwede, I see. maybe I +1 from you could help | 15:33 |
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| cschwede | jordanP: i’ll have a look | 15:35 |
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| notmyname | jordanP: I'll check it out today. I can approve it | 16:02 |
| jordanP | notmyname, great thanks ! | 16:02 |
| kevinc | We are migrating from swauth to keystone, is there any way to list all of the account in swift via an api? | 16:03 |
| notmyname | kevinc: doesn't swauth store account info inside a swauth-owned account in swift? | 16:04 |
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| kevinc | notmyname: yes, it does, but when i use the swauth method of listing accounts it doesn't show the accounts created via keystone. | 16:06 |
| notmyname | ah, right | 16:07 |
| kevinc | I want to know if there is any way to get a list of all accounts in swift without having to access the account dbs | 16:07 |
| notmyname | there's no "list all the accounts stored in the cluster" API. the best way to do it is to walk the account drives and find DBs | 16:07 |
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| kevinc | ok :) | 16:08 |
| notmyname | however, this was definitely something that came up last week in our ops feedback session | 16:08 |
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| notmyname | everyone has to do this (for various reasons) and everyone ends up doing it differently | 16:08 |
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| notmyname | I might be working with an Outreachy intern to implement something that would help with this | 16:08 |
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| mahatic_ | notmyname: oh cool, do you have an applicant yet? today is the last day to submit applications | 16:11 |
| mahatic_ | for the upcoming round | 16:11 |
| notmyname | mahatic_: she's been working on it. the summit was bad timing for applicants since a lot of people weren't online | 16:12 |
| notmyname | mahatic_: it's Zyric if you see her online (in the evenings in an Australian time zone | 16:12 |
| mahatic_ | notmyname: ah alright. Sure | 16:12 |
| kevinc | notmyname: once I identify orphaned accounts, can I send a DELETE request to http://server/auth/v2/tenant to delete the account? | 16:13 |
| notmyname | kevinc: depends what you mean by delete the account. removing it from the auth system? or removing any data stored in swift? | 16:14 |
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| kevinc | notmyname: removing any data stored in swift. | 16:23 |
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| kevinc | we have been running swift for a few years, we recently added compute with keystone, so now we are going back to swift to get it added to the compute's keystone server. We have a method to delete keystone accounts, but when we do we end up with orphaned swift accounts | 16:24 |
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| notmyname | kevinc: you'll need to send a DELETE to the account's storage URL in swift. that will kick off the account reaper and clean up the data | 16:29 |
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| kevinc | notmyname: got it, ill give that a try, thank you for your help! | 16:37 |
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| notmyname | good morning, world | 17:22 |
| kevinc | notmyname: what url should i send the DELETE to? I have tried https://server/v1/AUTH_id, https://server/auth/v2/AUTH_id, https://server/auth/v2/id but none worked | 17:22 |
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| notmyname | kevinc: the first one | 17:22 |
| notmyname | kevinc: ie whatever the storage url is for that particular account | 17:23 |
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| kevinc | ok, let me try again | 17:23 |
| gmmaha | good morning notmyname | 17:23 |
| gmmaha | hope you had a lot of fun at tokyo! | 17:23 |
| notmyname | gmmaha: it was great to see everyone | 17:24 |
| notmyname | kevinc: I'm guessing you'll likely get a 405 or 401 response | 17:24 |
| gmmaha | notmyname: ohh yeah.. awesomeness of conferences i guess | 17:25 |
| kevinc | yes | 17:25 |
| kevinc | 401 | 17:25 |
| notmyname | kevinc: you'll need to be a "reseller admin" in order to delete accounts | 17:27 |
| notmyname | kevinc: also, you'll have to be talking to a proxy server that has allow_account_management set to true | 17:27 |
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| jrichli | scrum over. Ahhh ... that wasn't so bad | 17:57 |
| clayg | hello all | 17:59 |
| hrou | jrichli, yey! : ) | 18:00 |
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| kevinc | Would I run something like: /usr/bin/curl --insecure -XDELETE -D - https://server/v1/AUTH_id -H "X-Auth-Admin-User: keystone_reseller_username" -H "X-Auth-Admin-Key: keystone_reseller_token"? | 18:01 |
| notmyname | jrichli: :-) | 18:02 |
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| jrichli | now off to lunch | 18:03 |
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| notmyname | http://www.npr.org/2015/10/20/450239655/escape-rooms-challenge-players-to-solve-puzzles-to-get-out :-) | 18:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Dardeau proposed openstack/swift: Add unit tests to cover print_item_locations https://review.openstack.org/240961 | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Dardeau proposed openstack/swift: Mock stdout and specify test directory for ring location https://review.openstack.org/240961 | 20:09 |
| notmyname | hope I didn't miss anything. was in a meeting and when I got back my computer had restarted | 20:10 |
| clayg | peluse_: what's paul dardeau's handle? | 20:10 |
| pdardeau | clayg: here! | 20:10 |
| clayg | notmyname: seems like it's been pretty chill | 20:10 |
| notmyname | pdardeau: clayg: meet | 20:11 |
| clayg | pdardeau: nice work on all those test changes - i hope to be doing a bunch of reviews later in the week | 20:11 |
| pdardeau | clayg: thx. hopefully i'm not making too many newbie mistakes | 20:12 |
| clayg | pdardeau: someone will tell you if you do - we're not shy like that ;) | 20:12 |
| jrichli | notmyname: They should have the picture of our team from Austin Panic Room :-) | 20:13 |
| clayg | jrichli: dfg_ was telling me that like every team except for mine finished? | 20:16 |
| jrichli | clayg: I thought there was only one team to finish | 20:16 |
| hrou | clayg, jrichli it definitely wasn't our team ; ) | 20:17 |
| jrichli | maybe it was that we finished first | 20:18 |
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| clayg | jrichli: well, point is - it was a lot of fun! :D | 20:19 |
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| jrichli | clayg: glad you liked it! | 20:20 |
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| gmmaha | i am trying to write test coverage for direct_client file and while trying to test response in chunks, i am getting this error. | 20:33 |
| gmmaha | File "/home/swift/swift/swift/common/direct_client.py", line 349, in _object_body | 20:33 |
| gmmaha | buf = resp.read(resp_chunk_size) | 20:33 |
| gmmaha | TypeError: read() takes exactly 1 argument (2 given) | 20:33 |
| gmmaha | dont think i am introducing the error, but something thats been around in the file. Is this a bug in the code? can someone please shed some light on this? | 20:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Dardeau proposed openstack/swift: Add unit tests to cover print_item_locations https://review.openstack.org/240961 | 20:35 |
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| clayg | gmmaha: is resp/conn being mocked? | 20:38 |
| gmmaha | clayg: yes sir. | 20:38 |
| clayg | gmmaha: it looks like test.unit.common.test_direct_client.FakeConn.read isn't a very complete fake | 20:39 |
| gmmaha | aaah | 20:40 |
| gmmaha | have to expand that to support chunks... | 20:40 |
| clayg | gmmaha: sounds good | 20:40 |
| gmmaha | thanks.. let me see | 20:40 |
| clayg | gmmaha: np, gl | 20:40 |
| gmmaha | thanks a lot for the tip.. | 20:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Dardeau proposed openstack/swift: Added unit tests for ringbuilder command-line utility https://review.openstack.org/240076 | 21:06 |
| notmyname | I just got a beta of a new client app that support swift (mounts it locally on a computer). I like where it says "9.22EB free" | 21:08 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: your mp3 collection should fit in there ;) | 21:09 |
| pdardeau | tdasilva: i'm thinking seriously that i will put nearly all of my mp3 collection in swift pretty soon | 21:12 |
| tdasilva | pdardeau: ha, cool! but now you got me thinking why "nearly all of it" and not "all of it"? :P | 21:13 |
| pdardeau | tdasilva: depending whether it busts the storage quota on my vps or not | 21:15 |
| tdasilva | pdardeau: got it | 21:15 |
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| zaitcev | My anime collection is 39 times larger than my mp3 collection. | 21:27 |
| zaitcev | According to bc(1). | 21:28 |
| zaitcev | And du(1). | 21:28 |
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| zaitcev | Which is still well within capacity of a miniscule Swift cluster nowadays. | 21:28 |
| notmyname | it's already all in swift anyway (via crunchyroll) ;-) | 21:29 |
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| clayg | notmyname: where do I go to put https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230352/ on the meeting schedule for a quick vote? | 22:38 |
| clayg | notmyname: it's a fix now and maybe have a bit of pain or work-around it and have cruft (probably forever) | 22:38 |
| notmyname | clayg: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 22:39 |
| notmyname | and it looks like I need to add something there too about summit follow-up | 22:39 |
| notmyname | everyone, here's the basic plan we came up with last week for encryption http://d.not.mn/swift_encryption_plan.pdf | 22:39 |
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| notmyname | clayg: thanks | 22:46 |
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