Wednesday, 2015-02-18

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hogood morning guys!00:07
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hoFYI: https://gigaom.com/2015/02/17/openstack-comes-up-huge-for-walmart/00:12
hoAnother work in progress is the construction of a multi-petabyte object store using the OpenStack Swift technology00:12
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mattoliverauho: morning00:26
homattoliverau: morning!00:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: more probe test refactoring  https://review.openstack.org/15589500:55
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portanteho: the mention of OpenStack Swift in that article does not appear to have a link to the swift site, while the cinder and trove references seem to each have one02:38
* portante just posted a comment asking for an update02:40
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homattoliverau: thanks for the review. I will check your comment and respond it later. thanks!04:03
mattoliverauho: no problems, thanks for working on it :)04:03
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ho__portante: good idea!05:03
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notmynamehello again05:18
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mattoliveraunotmyname: hi05:48
ho__notmyname: hello05:49
mattoliveraunotmyname: so I started going over older bugs, found one what looks like a patch to address it was raised a few months after it was raised.. but it was never closed.. I tried to mark it as Fixed Merged to close it out but it gave me some wierd error. So have raged quit bugs for the day :P05:52
notmynameseems reasonable ;-)05:52
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notmynamepriority reviews page update. EC's at the top of the list06:16
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mattoliveraucools, nice work. Well I'm calling it a day, seeing as I'll wake up early for the meeting.06:27
mattoliverauNight all06:27
notmynamemattoliverau: read my email before you go to bed ;-)06:28
mattoliveraunotmyname: will do :) Got a few hours before actual sleep time so may be back :P06:29
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notmynamewhat's up with all the "monitoring swift" talks proposed for the summit?07:06
notmynameactually i think that's really cool, since it means people are using it :-)07:06
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mattoliveraunotmyname: +1 (if ops are submitting swift based talks then that's awesome!)07:40
notmynameya, I just went through and made a list of stuff that looks interesting to me07:41
notmynamehttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21194/vancouver%20talks07:46
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openstackgerritPrashanth Pai proposed openstack/swift: Refactor server side copy as middleware  https://review.openstack.org/15692308:50
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mattoliveraunotmyname: thanks for the list, I'll go vote for them ;)09:20
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openstackgerritDaniel Wakefield proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Verify MD5 of uploaded objects.  https://review.openstack.org/12925410:32
openstackgerritDaniel Wakefield proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Add flag to disable automatic checksum validation.  https://review.openstack.org/15667710:32
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openstackgerritChristian Schwede proposed openstack/swift: Set connection timeout in container sync  https://review.openstack.org/15694311:03
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: update the getting started doc  https://review.openstack.org/15638811:30
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openstackgerritChristian Schwede proposed openstack/swift: Set connection timeout in container sync  https://review.openstack.org/15694312:43
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remix_tjopenstack summit location is decided 12months in advance? where will be after tokyo?13:23
remix_tj(looking for a closer location... when was in paris my company was not sure of using swift...)13:23
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acolesnotmyname: i have noticed that gerrit does not always update launchpad bug when closes-bug tag is included :( here's a recent example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153247/13:44
acolesnotmyname: i have a hunch that the closes-tag tag needs to be in the very first patchset. in that example i manually cross-reference13:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-swiftclient: add functional tox target  https://review.openstack.org/15671913:56
cschwedeacoles: indeed, the bug will be only updated when a new patchset is created: https://github.com/openstack-infra/system-config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/templates/gerrit_patchset-created.erb#L513:56
acolescschwede: nice! i have a hunch - you have line reference in code :)13:58
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openstackgerritRomain LE DISEZ proposed openstack/swift: Support of the Linux socket option SO_REUSEPORT  https://review.openstack.org/13765914:47
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rlediseztdasilva: hello16:06
tdasilvarledisez: hi16:06
rlediseztdasilva: you just commented my review (reuseport), but i'm not sure to understand what you said16:07
rlediseztdasilva: you said "recheck no bug"16:07
rlediseztdasilva: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137659/16:07
tdasilvarledisez: yeah, that's because one of the CI tests failed, but due to a bug in the CI system. Adding the comment "recheck no bug" tells the CI to run the tests again16:08
rlediseztdasilva: oh, ok :)16:08
tdasilvarledisez: so you can ignore the comment :-)16:08
rlediseztdasilva: i will :p , thx16:09
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notmynamegood morning, world16:37
notmynameremix_tj: no idea where "after tokyo" will be16:38
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notmynamethis looks fun https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/Presentation/openstack-is-doomed-and-it-is-your-fault16:48
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ahale"and-it-is-swifts-fault"16:52
notmynamemahatic: how's it going? looks like you've been working with jrichli on your current patch16:52
notmynameahale: lol16:52
mahaticnotmyname, yeah. I just want to one more assertion on that change before I go ahead and make the change. Can you take a look?16:52
mahaticI mean, it looks correct, but I'm not too sure if I'm considering all the scenarios16:54
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mahaticit = jrichli's suggestion16:55
acolesi love that tox congratulates me when i manage to run zero tests with zero failures17:02
mahaticacoles, lol pep8 does too, right?17:03
mahaticow, you mean no tests at all, I see17:03
acolesmahatic: yep. zero tests gets me a tox smiley :)17:04
mahatic:D17:05
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notmynamemahatic: what's your next step on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153617 ?17:15
mahaticnotmyname, First, I need to know that I'm not missing any scenarios by implementing jrichli suggestion (i.e. consolidating logic - by doing a compare like this:17:17
mahatichttp://paste.openstack.org/show/176984/17:18
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mahaticit looks alright to me, but maybe not too readable17:20
mahaticnotmyname, what do you say?17:20
notmynamegive me a moment. got a few things going on at once :-)17:21
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mahaticnotmyname, yes, sure :)17:24
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acolesclayg: i got my devstack running. stack.sh barfed on some tempest stuff but the services are up. I do not see the error you had creating swifttenanttest417:38
acolesclayg: so, assuming you got as far as having services running, i wrote a quick script to setup all the swift accounts (or at least reproduce your error).17:39
acolesclayg: https://gist.github.com/alistairncoles/f2a99e226bfbc8a1182a17:39
acolesclayg: i foun i had to run on the devstack machine, couldn't access keystone interface other than from on localhost17:40
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acolesclayg: there's an example session using the script on the gist too. i got as far as all the master func tests running, next i'll patch with service tokens.17:41
acolesdonagh: ^^17:41
khivinHello. Can someone take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1082835? Is it still needed to fix? if yes, then I can start working on this17:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1082835 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "World readable access to segmented object produces 401, even if _segments is also world readable." [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Alex Khivin (akhivin)17:52
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khivinI am not yet experienced enough and would appreciate for any advice17:56
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notmynamemahatic: sorry for the delay. I was pulled into a meeting with a partner company (still in it actually)18:21
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mahaticnotmyname, oh, that's alright.18:25
mahatictorgomatic, can you take a look at this please, if you got sometime? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153617/18:26
notmynamemahatic: in general, it seems that there could be some opportunity to consolidate those if blocks18:31
notmynameI havent' had a chance to run it or apply jrichli's patch/ideas there, but it looks right at a glance18:32
mahaticokay18:33
dmsimardnotmyname: Looking at slogging (I'm "that" guy that asked about Ceilometer in Paris).. I've so far mostly just glanced at the code but what's your opinion about making it query elasticsearch (part of an ELK stack) for logs instead of the actual files ?18:34
mahaticnotmyname, I'll look at that. If you could give me some inputs by the end of your day, that'll be helpful. Meanwhile I can consolidate the if blocks and also write a test for scout_server_type18:34
notmynamemahatic: I'll try, but I'm in meetings all day18:34
mahaticnotmyname, okay, i'll bug someone else :)18:35
notmynameheh :-)18:35
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notmynamedmsimard: sure it would be possible, I guess. basically that's pushing some of the stats consolidation to ELK rather than inside of slogging. probably would be a lot faster than slogging.18:37
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notmynamedmsimard: but that's one part of slogging. there are 3 parts: generating data, storing data, and parsing/consolidating data18:38
notmynamedmsimard: elasticsearch could replace the last one18:38
dmsimardI'll do some experimentation within the next few weeks, will let you know what happens :)18:39
notmynameswift team meeting in 15 minutes18:46
acolesclayg: i got to running functional tests on devstack with service token patch, all the gory detail on updated gist: https://gist.github.com/alistairncoles/f2a99e226bfbc8a1182a18:47
acolesoh, and they passed :D18:47
acolesdonagh: ^^18:47
claygacoles: thanks!18:48
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acolesclayg: np18:48
claygacoles: oh god, that looks horrendus :'(18:52
acolesclayg: its been quite a day :O18:52
acolesclayg: although, i include all the output which makes the session look really long. the script on the gist takes the pain out of keystone config, then you "just" gotta tweak the patch into devstack swift18:54
claygacoles: so there *is* a dependent devstack patch to get this thing running18:54
* clayg must not have read the patch very carefully18:54
acolesclayg: this is why i tend to test with siao and a standalone keystone service18:54
acolesclayg: no - there is no devstack patch - i meant you have to patch swift on devstack with the service token patch18:55
claygacoles: I can't even stack.sh with swift and keystone enabled?!  https://gist.github.com/clayg/e9eeb7106204f8f6b49618:55
claygacoles: oh, well that's doable - but I expected to be able to get devstack with keystone/swift *running* first?18:55
claygacoles: you did a uname -a - but not a cat /etc/*release - i'd previous tried with precise and when I had no luck I popped a new trusty box - but I have a different kernel than you - so I'm guessing we're on different distros?18:56
acolesclayg: yeah, i saw that - so i'm guessing/hoping by the time you get that error, keystone and swift are running18:57
claygkeystone, but not swift18:57
acolesbummer18:57
claygI don't think dlo's ever worked without .rlisting?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/108283518:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1082835 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "World readable access to segmented object produces 401, even if _segments is also world readable." [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Alex Khivin (akhivin)18:58
claygslo should be fine though, at least I woudn't expect it to do a get on the container?18:58
notmynameclayg: right, but as byron mentions in the bug, that was "fixed" at some point18:59
notmynameI'm not sure it's actually a bug18:59
notmynameswift meeting time19:00
claygnotmyname: I think he might be confused, if there's a bug it that it worked, but I don't think we let that slip, he might have had his pipeline crazytown19:00
notmynamekhivin: ^^ what clayg said is one reason it's been "open" for so long19:01
acolesclayg: my devstack is 12.04.5 precise19:01
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acolesclayg: i'll try a trusty VM tomorrow19:02
claygacoles: I'll try on a precise vm today!  thanks!19:03
torgomaticalso the bug report is against Folsom, and we're working on... K now? J? L?19:03
torgomaticeither way, not F19:03
torgomaticor G19:03
acolesclayg: ;) i spent half my day discovering that my pip version stops using http proxy after 52 connections!! mysterious timeouts part way through installs19:05
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claygyay pip!19:06
claygtorgomatic: what does that have to do with anyhting we're terrible about keeping bugs current?19:07
torgomaticclayg: the dlo middleware scooted around in the pipeline a lot between then and now, that's all19:07
claygis it really swift meeting time?  am i in the wrong channel?19:07
notmynameyup it is19:08
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claygtorgomatic: oh, well that's very true - but it's "in-progress" now - so I don't know what that means19:08
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notmynameclayg: I think that just means that someone has clicked a button, hopefully with the intention of writing some code19:17
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khivinnotmyname, clayg So I will check this https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1082835 to clarify how it really works and to decide how to fix this bug or may be close it as invalid19:32
openstackLaunchpad bug 1082835 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "World readable access to segmented object produces 401, even if _segments is also world readable." [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Alex Khivin (akhivin)19:32
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notmynamekhivin: thanks. that's a great way to start19:32
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acolesmattoliverau: hi! we overlap!19:37
mattoliverauacoles: yay!19:38
acolesmattoliverau: right, i'm out of here...19:38
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mattoliverauacoles: lol, night man! Thanks again for the keystone script, and your keystone notes on the wiki would be very helpful in future when needed to test this kind of stuff :)19:39
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acolesmattoliverau: i need to revisit those, have a feeling openstackclient cli options may have changed.19:39
acolesor at least, i needed to use different auth options this time.19:40
mattoliverauacoles: k, but not now.. go sleep :)19:40
acolesmattoliverau: and when it failed i got "Error: openstack" . lol19:40
mattoliverauacoles: lol, useful error :P19:40
acolesmattoliverau: quite accurate and succinct imho19:41
mattoliverauvery concise :P19:41
mattoliverauK, I'm going to find some breakfast or something to wake me up.19:41
acolesmattoliverau: have a good breakfast, i'm going before you raise the topic of cricket ;)19:41
khivinnotmyname, ok. I am excited about beginning of my contribution to Swift19:41
mattoliverauacoles: lol, damn missed my oppertunity!19:42
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clayghttps://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/Presentation/from-one-to-many-growing-your-swift-deployment-to-multi-region-multi-policy-multi-petabyte19:51
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notmynameclayg: that one looks like the same talk as https://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/presentation/openstack-swift-the-road-to-100-petabytes19:54
claygnotmyname: oh i like that, replicated summit proposals19:54
notmynamekhivin: that's great. out of curiosity, why'd you choose that bug?19:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/swift: Promote some of the best developers I know to CORE Emeritus  https://review.openstack.org/15589019:55
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notmynametdasilva: how'd you get out of the meeting group photo? https://twitter.com/RedHatStorage/status/56814062093547520020:12
clayghttps://www.openstack.org/vote-vancouver/Presentation/time-sync-as-service20:12
claygnotmyname: tdasilva: I feel like I should recognize some people in there?20:13
tdasilvanotmyname: lol, can't even tell where that is...don see any eng. there tho :P20:13
tdasilvaclayg, notmyname: it's all business folks, don't want to be in that meeting :-)20:15
notmynameclayg: that's not as bad as the title sounds. it seems like a feature requests. I was scared it was going to be like a whole new openstack project proposal20:15
notmyname"openstack chronos"20:15
notmynameI used it here first, so I now have copyright, so I can deny other people from using it for silly TaaS projects ;-)20:16
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notmyname;-)20:27
zaitcevkekeke20:27
zaitcevYes, I forgot about the meeting20:27
notmynameno worries20:28
notmynamethere's logs20:28
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-swiftclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8925020:42
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/swift: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8873620:43
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pelusetorgomatic, you there?21:18
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notmynamepretty soon I'm going to be offline for the rest of the week (long-weekend trip with the family). is there anything I can do for anyone before I'm offline?21:27
peluserock and roll man, have fun!21:28
mattoliveraunotmyname: just have an awesome time with the fam, reenergise and come back as your awese self :)21:28
mattoliverau*Awesome21:28
peluseI thought that was some sort of Ausie thing :)21:28
notmynameheh. I'll come back with sore legs. I haven't been skiing in years21:28
pelusedrink lots of while while you ski - it helps21:29
pelusewine21:29
notmynamelol21:29
* mattoliverau is still pre coffee, and so can't be bled for the over use of awesome21:29
mattoliverau*Blamed..21:29
mattoliverauWow this is going well.. I should just give up typing :p21:30
khivinnotmyname, it had no assignee.  this one seemed like not  too urgent task :) but I would be glad to any recommendations at the future21:31
notmynamekhivin: :-)21:31
notmynamekhivin: check out the "ideas" page linked in the topic21:32
notmynamehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/ideas21:32
khivinnotmyname, ok:) thanks21:32
notmynamekhivin: the bottom one would be really helpful to be done within the next week21:32
notmynamepeluse: ^21:33
notmynamekhivin: right now the functional tests run against a swift endpoint and do API things21:33
notmynamekhivin: but if there were a way to specify in the test.conf a storage policy to use when running the tests, that would be nice21:33
notmynameand it would really help out the EC work that's going on21:33
peluseyup, agree21:34
notmynamekhivin: it should be a relatively small patch. peluse, clayg, torgomatic, and/or acoles_away would all be happy to help, I'm sure (ie give advice to patches and point you in the right direction)21:35
pelusefor sure21:36
khivinnotmyname, just a moment. I take a look21:37
notmynamekhivin: while the functest change must happen soon (so it would be great if you could help there), here's another idea. but this one is completely low priority and independent of anything else going on21:38
notmynamekhivin: Exposed allowed and denied headers on tempurl requests in /info. See http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/middleware.html#tempurl21:38
notmynamekhivin: basically there are some config values that might change a client view of the system but aren't reported. that's a small nice-to-have change21:39
notmynamekhivin: but I'd totally prefer you looked at the other one first :-)21:39
khivinnotmyname, ok. let I investigate this task a little and I will ask about particular details21:45
khivinnotmyname, Is there any ticket at Launchpad or may be I should create it?21:48
notmynamekhivin: no you don't need to do anything in launchpad21:48
khivinnotmyname, ok21:49
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jrichlinotmyname: have a great time!22:03
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lcurtisrandom question23:36
lcurtiscan tempauth and keystone be used at same time23:36
lcurtisif we ingest objects using tempauth, can the container then be linked back to keystone?23:37
torgomaticthose are two different questions23:38
torgomaticand the answers are "yes" and "I don't understand" respectively23:38
zaitcevIt's possible to set tennant ID in Keystone, provided that there's no conflict.23:39
torgomaticso you can run two auth systems in parallel; they just use different auth prefixes23:39
torgomatice.g. RED_blah is a tempauth account, and BLUE_blargh is a Keystone account23:40
torgomaticwhat do you mean by "linked back to keystone"?23:40
torgomaticlcurtis: ^^23:45
lcurtis<torgomatic> so for example , if i put objects in a container using tempauth...can i add keystone auth to container as well23:45
lcurtissorry...butchering terminology23:45
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lcurtisor acl23:47
lcurtisdoes that make sense?23:47
hogood morning guys!23:48
torgomaticlcurtis: auth works at the account level, and things are sharded by auth prefix, so you can't swap out the auth system for a particular account (or its container)23:48
torgomaticho: morning!23:48
mattoliverauho: morning23:48
hotorgomatic: mattoliverau: morning!23:48
torgomaticbut if tempauth owns all of AUTH_*, you can swap out tempauth for keystone and then keystone will own all of AUTH_*23:49
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lcurtisThanks torgomatic23:54
lcurtishow could I make tempauth own AUTH_* ?23:55
lcurtisnot sure i understand23:55
zaitceveach account there is listed, so obviously if you list each of them...23:57
lcurtisokay...thanks very much everyone for the quick and thoughtful answers...will need to try out23:59

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